Horrific House Party: The questionable death of Derontae Martin [True Crime]

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  • @juned1719
    @juned1719 Рік тому +66

    The fact that this case is still unsolved and not being investigated 🤬

    • @BeatDaBlockBass2
      @BeatDaBlockBass2 7 місяців тому +7

      I believe law enforcement knows exactly what happened & by the cities population being so small it's a great chance the murderer has ties with law enforcement

  • @polkadots716
    @polkadots716 2 роки тому +206

    He was acting paranoid, he said he felt unsafe, and so someone handed him a gun in a house full of people at a party? Doesn't sound credible. 🤔

    • @scratchy1704
      @scratchy1704 2 роки тому +8

      They could have been egging him on.Happens a lot.So tragic☹️

    • @ididntknowtheyhadwifiinhell
      @ididntknowtheyhadwifiinhell 2 роки тому +10

      and then erased his phone

    • @powerboatguy2308
      @powerboatguy2308 Рік тому +11

      A lot of things could be true at once. He could have done meth or had a drink spiked. The home owner could be a racist and not a murderer. He could have shot himself, but why didn't they polygraph the supposed witness? The problem is they need to methodical and scientific, they did not do any of that. Them finding meth in his system led them to make a rapid judgement of suicide which was stupid, but it would also be stupid to solely focus on the homeowner because he is a racist or had a pic of a confederate flag. I think the "witness" would be the first person to polygraph.

    • @Catlady77777
      @Catlady77777 11 місяців тому +1

      Nope

    • @Virus-xm7qc
      @Virus-xm7qc 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Catlady77777And WHY NOT?!

  • @ritayammouni2803
    @ritayammouni2803 2 роки тому +243

    If the court overruled the suicide theory and wants them to reinvestigate the case, then it shouldn’t be investigated by the same investigators, what is the point? They are only going to come back with the same result! Someone in that house is guilty imo

    • @shadygirlxoxo
      @shadygirlxoxo 2 роки тому +8

      Exactly what I was gonna say!

    • @jakeminner6650
      @jakeminner6650 2 роки тому +10

      I'd like to know if it was a revolver and maybe Russian roulette. He was high on meth.

    • @geraldbrakefield3874
      @geraldbrakefield3874 2 роки тому +8

      @@jakeminner6650 wasnt him that pulled the trigger, so doesnt matter if it was a game.

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 2 роки тому +4

      Happens all the time with autopsy's as well. If they want a second opinion on a cause of death it's usually the same person who looks the second time. So fucking stupid.

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 2 роки тому +3

      @@jakeminner6650 listen to the video, it was a silver semi-automatic

  • @suej8159
    @suej8159 2 роки тому +97

    Only thing that comes to my mind is this. Who goes to someone else house to commit suicide ? I personally don't recall hearing too many if any cases of that.

    • @kidzline850
      @kidzline850 20 днів тому +1

      The bigger question is, who gives someone a gun with a single bullet when they say they are paranoid. First of all, makes no sense to give someone you don't know a gun, makes even less sense to arm someone who is acting weird in a party full of people. Pisses me off the story isn't even good yet they bought it.

    • @littleblackfox1
      @littleblackfox1 5 днів тому +1

      I've heard of one other case where this happened and it was later proven to be a murder.

  • @kat0726
    @kat0726 2 роки тому +160

    I wanted to cry when I heard how happy he was to have his own room. This case breaks my heart 💔

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +8

      💔❤️💔❤️💔

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому

      I hope you are genuine in your sympathy because there are fakes out here

    • @kat0726
      @kat0726 2 роки тому +15

      @@deronlouis88louis52 of course I am, and it's sad you would ever have to question that from someone. You must live in a life with no compassion 😔

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +1

      Not at all! But I think by this time blacks are tired of Fake friends who claim there for the struggle when there really not

    • @Alaryicjude
      @Alaryicjude Рік тому +7

      @@deronlouis88louis52, I hope you're genuine in your concern over a stranger's feelings bc there are trolls out there...
      🤦🙄

  • @ifoss23
    @ifoss23 8 місяців тому +27

    The craziest thing is this isn't the first teenager found dead on wades property. I grew up in Fredericktown and unfortunately was friends with his daughter and stayed many nights at his house. Another young man, Nick Lowery, was found dead and also labeled a suicide.

  • @rare2find0918
    @rare2find0918 10 місяців тому +30

    He was drugged and murdered.
    As parents/guardians it is so important to get information on WHERE your children will be before they leave the house. Who are the parents, meet them...assess the environment/home life and get a feel for them AND their children before you let your child go visit without you. He's a Black teenager in a predominantly white town, where he's a transplant (from a different city)...that alone is cause for alarm.
    Unfortunately, there are people who have no regard for Black life or existence and someone with that mindset took his life.
    That man knows something, those teens know something and those town officials do as well.

  • @kimir1633
    @kimir1633 2 роки тому +52

    What a sweet smile..so sad..prayers for the family 🙏

  • @I_luv_french_fries
    @I_luv_french_fries 2 роки тому +125

    Pretty hard to believe that this young man with a promising future went to a party at some random mans house with a confederate flag hanging and shoots himself in the head in this random mans attic with someone else’s gun... nothing about this says suicide. I’m so sorry for Derontae and his loved ones ❤️ I hope this gets new investigators and the Martin family get some real answers.

    • @terredee
      @terredee 10 місяців тому

      Exactly!
      The confederate flag is the flag of traitors and those who agree with slavery - supposed Christians who found God’s approval of slavery in their Bible.
      That guy standing in front of that flag may not have killed Deonte himself, but by the tone in his voice on the 911 call, he’s fine with it.

    • @badgalriri2354
      @badgalriri2354 10 місяців тому +6

      THANK YOUUUU!!! That’s what I’m saying, also look at the father’s face 1sec “looking sad” to then smiling AND POSTING RACIST COMMENTS ABOUT HIM DYING! It’s a Subdown Town too he clearly didn’t kill himself & WHY haven’t the police got the IT team to retrieve his data from his phone? Their statement shows they don’t care in 1 line they said he was 21 then said he was 19, the neighbour had no reason to lie! I’m from 🇬🇧 & it’s clear as day what happened you’d have to be blind & deaf to not see what happened! I pray for his family & may he RIEP 😔🙏🏾🩵🕊️

    • @ShaeNik
      @ShaeNik 3 місяці тому

      💯💯💯 Faxx!!​@@badgalriri2354

  • @Hayday.1979
    @Hayday.1979 2 роки тому +88

    Why would he ask someone for a gun to protect himself because he was afraid for his life, only to use said gun to shoot himself?? Make it make sense…
    I’m glad they finally corrected the cause & manner of death, and hope the family gets justice! RIP, young man…

    • @powerboatguy2308
      @powerboatguy2308 Рік тому +3

      They need to polygraph the witness.

    • @Virus-xm7qc
      @Virus-xm7qc 11 місяців тому

      Rest until the ressurection young man.

    • @Marc-King777
      @Marc-King777 6 місяців тому +2

      The question no one answered is "Why would he have a reason to feel unsafe in the first place?"

    • @traciecat
      @traciecat 3 місяці тому

      Did they ever say who gave him the gun? Also, why on earth have they not polygraphed the only witness?

  • @joanbrennan2534
    @joanbrennan2534 2 роки тому +32

    Could that 911 operator be any less interested? Usually, they are calm and reassuring. It's not funny, but...
    What a horrific ending to a healthy, strong, and aspiring young student.

  • @landoltoutdoors2615
    @landoltoutdoors2615 2 роки тому +164

    Derontae was one of my personal friends. I’d go as far to say a best friend. He was like a brother. I know Derontae would never take drugs since that could mess with his ability to play football in college. And I don’t know if the phone was taken to the police but because of a family friend I know that in saint Francois county where I live and where he went to school the sheriffs department can hook the phone up to a computer and pull all data (even deleted/erased) from said phone. And I still think Zachary should be made to take a polygraph test.

    • @kellyharris8976
      @kellyharris8976 2 роки тому +20

      So sorry for your loss. He absolutely did not unalive himself. I feel so terribly sad for his family. Happy this case was covered- shedding more light on Deronte’s case. 💔♥️

    • @darrickmalloy6909
      @darrickmalloy6909 2 роки тому +6

      Man this is crazy. Is Zachary the one that was supposed to be driving him to his grandmothers house before the party?

    • @Bulskee
      @Bulskee 2 роки тому

      @@kellyharris8976 “unalive himself” 🤦‍♂️ people are getting dumber by the day. Sorry unbrained by the day

    • @darrickmalloy6909
      @darrickmalloy6909 2 роки тому +18

      Now they say dude is a white supremacists. I didn't need them to tell me he is a weirdo.

    • @joshuamoore3103
      @joshuamoore3103 2 роки тому +14

      incredibly sorry for your loss. I also believe the answer is on that phone. there has to be a way to retrieve that info. I hope the family sees this, and continue to push for the answers they deserve

  • @thrillwillent
    @thrillwillent 2 роки тому +15

    The cops can recover all the deleted things off his cell phone. Has this not been done yet?...

  • @chezceleste
    @chezceleste 10 місяців тому +6

    "They got me down for a racist serial killer" says James Wade standing in front of his confederate flag...

  • @theworld340
    @theworld340 2 роки тому +65

    Loving your doing lesser known cases and you've got so good at this x

    • @mikehawkins2199
      @mikehawkins2199 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed 💯!!! Some of these case’s I’ve never heard of!!! Keep up the great work!!! You got a happy subscriber here!!! I’m spreading the news of this gem of a channel!!!!👍👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂

    • @stfuplsok
      @stfuplsok Рік тому

      *you're

    • @stfuplsok
      @stfuplsok Рік тому

      @@mikehawkins2199 *cases

    • @theworld340
      @theworld340 Рік тому

      @stfuplsok nope I meant what I wrote

    • @stfuplsok
      @stfuplsok Рік тому

      @@theworld340 but you've used 'your' in your sentence wrong

  • @leilamohammed5033
    @leilamohammed5033 2 роки тому +24

    Trust me by next year you will have more followers. Great work btw 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @denac5222
    @denac5222 2 роки тому +18

    You are one of the few channels I can count on to share information on a case I've never heard of. Great job. I hope this family can get their answers.

  • @KW-kr9gh
    @KW-kr9gh 2 роки тому +30

    Never heard this story before, very interesting! Love the coverage on it, thanks for the upload! 👍

  • @EIRE55
    @EIRE55 2 роки тому +25

    Thanks again, Kevin, you never disappoint me.
    As for Mr. Wade, I think he knows a lot more than he's telling, and is far too casual about such a serious incident.

    • @jeremylatham1160
      @jeremylatham1160 Рік тому +4

      It’s the second murder at his house that they said was a suicide. Suicides just happen at James Wades house Thxs to the help of Cover ups Sheriffs n Coroners

    • @Virus-xm7qc
      @Virus-xm7qc 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@jeremylatham1160I was thinking the SAME THING....😢😢

  • @michellebaca1024
    @michellebaca1024 2 роки тому +16

    So much work must go into these videos! Thanks for all the footage!!!!

    • @JustThoughtLounge
      @JustThoughtLounge  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks for watching!

    • @shaneculkin7124
      @shaneculkin7124 2 роки тому +3

      Very true. I noticed this also. Appreciate it very much. Interesting case I've not heard of.

  • @sarahewson3607
    @sarahewson3607 2 роки тому +54

    It will never cease to amaze me how ignorant people are about the rebel flag 🤦🏻‍♀️ This guy can’t even have the decency to be interviewed somewhere else!

    • @Hungrystrawberry
      @Hungrystrawberry 2 роки тому +18

      The rebel flag is just like a swastika.

    • @darrickmalloy6909
      @darrickmalloy6909 2 роки тому

      He knows exactly what he is doing. Karma is a mf.

    • @toyaadams7878
      @toyaadams7878 2 роки тому +1

      What "rebel flag"????... Are u referring to the Confederate Flag????....the Flag Confederates Flew Proudly during the Civil War to Keep Blacks Enslaved???...B go somewhere...Most ppl in this Country knows what that Racist Azz Flag Represents...just bc U find it to be some sort of " badge of honor"...We Don't!!!!...that's like waving a swastika thru the air...they Both represent a Hateful, Racist Azz Sentiment...a "rebel flag"...smh...the sheer Ignorance of ppl on the net is Never far from Our Reach...dumbass ho...

    • @Mrs50Racerchick12
      @Mrs50Racerchick12 Рік тому +1

      Decency????? Please tell me enlighten me about your racism when talking about the confederate flag!

    • @bjbrown
      @bjbrown Рік тому +5

      ​@@Mrs50Racerchick12everything I read says that the flag represents the southern states during and after the war and the defense of slavery. Your turn.

  • @thedunlapchannel3089
    @thedunlapchannel3089 2 роки тому +57

    That’s my brotha basically i grew up with him, one the most humbled guys ik. Love him and miss him🙏🏾❤️❤️

  • @JennWatson
    @JennWatson 2 роки тому +55

    I wonder if the ‘cloud’ ☁️ had any info stored from his erased phone…
    Why would anyone hand him a gun to hold, even if he felt ‘unsafe?’
    Lastly, that confederate flag…
    Thanks Kevin, I love your channel!

    • @bettercallnadiya
      @bettercallnadiya 2 роки тому

      That would only work if he had an iPhone which it doesn’t say he did :/

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +1

      😳😱😳😱😳

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +2

      The white dude is a racist! Point blank! Let's just state the obvious here! I think that whiteman killed that boy!

    • @Coppertunes
      @Coppertunes 2 роки тому +9

      @@bettercallnadiya Android has Google drive, their version of iCloud.

    • @VanillaMacaron551
      @VanillaMacaron551 2 роки тому +5

      @@bettercallnadiya The phone service provider should have records of everything, regardless of what was deleted from the phone.

  • @NurulFSkywalker
    @NurulFSkywalker 2 роки тому +49

    The confederate flag shots are so subtle.

  • @MusicLeeSarah
    @MusicLeeSarah 11 місяців тому +12

    I live near Farmington/Fredricktown.
    There's a lot of places in the state that the police kind of run off the "good ole boys" way of doing things. This area is one of those places.
    The way this was investigated and handled, along with the Timothy Dee's case and the Gina Dawn Brooks kidnapping was/is unacceptable.
    My condolences to the family.

  • @jeannineterese1037
    @jeannineterese1037 10 місяців тому +3

    Why wasn’t the homeowner properly investigated? Why wasn’t he charged for having underage kids drinking/taking drugs in his house?

  • @sallysorrentino4013
    @sallysorrentino4013 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you Kevin for always giving us the lesser known cases unsaturated by media yet

    • @user-xg9jb3nz9v
      @user-xg9jb3nz9v 2 роки тому +1

      Yes i love that he covers cases that aren't very popular

  • @VivianRodriguez37
    @VivianRodriguez37 2 роки тому +4

    I love how you include a link to petitions for your subscribers and fans in order to make an impact.

  • @alwayshappy1971
    @alwayshappy1971 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks Kevin for all that meticulous work on informing us about unknown and interesting cases. You are excellent story teller.

  • @youtubebowser627
    @youtubebowser627 11 місяців тому +4

    I thought it was possible to restore the history on phones. Strange that they didn't do that.

  • @paulkasden9758
    @paulkasden9758 2 роки тому +9

    Hey man.. EVERY video of yours I watch just gets better and better. I love your channel man. Right up there with the best. Keep on keeping on broski

  • @davidpaul6656
    @davidpaul6656 Рік тому +8

    What about what the girl can be heard in the background saying on the phone call to the police?
    "I hate this!"
    1. Who is she? Is she Wade's daughter?
    2. What is it she hates? Her racist father shooting a black kid in his house?

    • @TheGobblersGetback
      @TheGobblersGetback 7 місяців тому +1

      Bingo…..🎯🎯🎯

    • @chorgzent.3978
      @chorgzent.3978 4 місяці тому

      He was muting the phone himself when it was cutting out to tell her to stfu

  • @AABB-bm9kk
    @AABB-bm9kk 2 роки тому +44

    Just a friendly hint to Mr Wade :
    If someone shoots themselves in your house -
    And you really had nothing to do with it - 🤔
    Just Maybe you should abstain from making comments concerning the event 🤷‍♂️
    that slander any groups the victim was a member of ✌️👍🤦‍♂️…
    Also, Mr Wade -FYI: The Confedracy lost 🤦‍♂️🤔✌️…The slaves are freed!…And No, we aren’t going back on that.

    • @claudiatorres9936
      @claudiatorres9936 2 роки тому +6

      Thought the same!

    • @AABB-bm9kk
      @AABB-bm9kk 2 роки тому +5

      @@claudiatorres9936 😉✌️👍

    • @skeez15
      @skeez15 2 роки тому +4

      Thank you!!!!

    • @stylish1012
      @stylish1012 2 роки тому

      Exactly! They killed the slaves back then and they still killing blacks now !

  • @dinathemedium9534
    @dinathemedium9534 2 роки тому +8

    I’ve just found this channel, your explanation and the way the whole videos are made is well written, my new favourite crime channel. Stay awesome 😁

  • @caseyp5901
    @caseyp5901 2 роки тому +69

    The "i didnt take part in a murder of a black man", whilst in front of a confederate flag is just not convincing me. Like wow the visual is a lot.

    • @sackettfamily4685
      @sackettfamily4685 2 роки тому +9

      I'll be honest.....in the south, having a confederate flag means nothing more than a blm flag, a political flag or a pride flag. it's our history and we're proud of most of it. it doesn't automatically mean anything racist. but the memes and posts sound like he could've been.

    • @quentenmcnaryGxFR
      @quentenmcnaryGxFR 2 роки тому

      @@sackettfamily4685 man shut that shit up.. the shit is derogatory.. you talkin bout proud of yall history and most of you mfs don't even know the history behind that punk ass flag.. come through a predominantly black hood in Texas and say that.. it won't be good.. yall need to stop that shit already

    • @marvin469
      @marvin469 2 роки тому +4

      Casey p - facts

    • @stylish1012
      @stylish1012 2 роки тому

      That racist cave beast is “GUILTY “!

    • @bm-ww8kb
      @bm-ww8kb Рік тому +8

      @@sackettfamily4685 besides everything else already mentioned, considering that the only thing he actually did admit to was using racial slurs towards ppl in his home the day of the murder.... thats a stretch man...

  • @amityislandchum
    @amityislandchum 5 місяців тому +2

    The entire concept of a jury of non-experts deciding on a cause of death is utterly ridiculous.

    • @verabolton
      @verabolton 5 місяців тому

      My thoughts, exactly

  • @DiorForshee
    @DiorForshee 11 місяців тому +4

    The homeowner with the damn Confederate flag in the back is really wondering why people are saying he is racist? 😂😂😂😂
    If the shoe fit wear it. There is no justification for hanging a traitor’s flag. They lost!!!
    This story is suspicious all around.

  • @steveborne9821
    @steveborne9821 7 місяців тому +3

    "Apparently he shot himself" Apparently is a strange word to say on the 911 call

  • @papadave3084
    @papadave3084 2 роки тому +8

    Who gives a gun - with just ONE bullet in it - to someone else, and says it's for their protection?

  • @anniej1834
    @anniej1834 2 роки тому +5

    Best way 2 spend a Sunday teatime kevin i just love it when u post 😊 and thanks again 4 the quality content see u next time u post 😉

  • @tracyp1815
    @tracyp1815 2 роки тому +28

    Definitely screams of a set-up!
    RIP Derontae, I hope justice is served 🙏
    Great content Kevin, keep up the good work 👏👏

  • @liquidnick
    @liquidnick 2 роки тому +51

    Everyone knows you can trust the guy with the rebel flag on his porch…

  • @amybryant8813
    @amybryant8813 Рік тому +23

    "Despite the confederate flag behind me and my obvious lack of teeth, I am not a racist or a meth addict" - James Wade

  • @coolocelot
    @coolocelot Рік тому +7

    Wild to say someone committed suicide in a strangers closet

  • @OstaraDawn
    @OstaraDawn 2 роки тому +9

    This may be reaching, but it seems that this young man was interested in someone's white daughter and they weren't having that....So they killed him....

  • @AdeleBuckle
    @AdeleBuckle 2 роки тому +7

    Loving your channel

  • @lindaanderson6780
    @lindaanderson6780 2 роки тому +5

    Really enjoying ur channel Kevin, u have been getting better & better & ur doing a great job!
    Love how u pick many of the less well-known & under-reported cases too!
    So many people just cover the high profile cases that we have all seen & heard about many times before & those that are already saturated with attention & media coverage.
    Great to hear some of the more obscure, different & deserving to be heard cases so well done u. I hope u continue doing ur easy-to-listen-to, interesting & well researched presentations.
    U seem like a very nice guy, so I also hope that ur channel grows to the level of success that u desire & deserve!
    Good luck & much respect to u.
    💙👍🌞👌🙏🍻💙🤞🥂🍾🙂👏💙

  • @JohnDLeo-rg8tc
    @JohnDLeo-rg8tc Рік тому +4

    systematic f...ng racism at its worst. As a Canadian looking in from the outside, America is a dangerous, violent country where horrific crimes take place in every community, big or small. It amazes me when this happens and the news states that the community is shocked by this violence.....Please!

    • @2anthro
      @2anthro Рік тому +1

      Welp, don't come down here, you'll be fine.

  • @shdynareed3278
    @shdynareed3278 2 роки тому +42

    I can’t get over how beautiful Derontea’s smile was!

  • @GenXfrom75
    @GenXfrom75 2 роки тому +26

    Questionable? Definitely!! Something stinks to high heaven, as my Grandma would say! 🤬💯

    • @powerboatguy2308
      @powerboatguy2308 Рік тому +1

      The "witness" is key to it and no one polygraphed him. He either shot him or knows who did it. Maybe it was a suicide, but that is the first person you should polygraph.

  • @deronlouis88louis52
    @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +10

    THIS STORY NEED'S MORE COVERAGE! I AINT EVEN HEARING ABOUT THIS YOUNG MAN ON THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!

    • @mjb2605
      @mjb2605 2 роки тому +2

      Unsolved Mysteries would help bring this to light!

    • @mommy2libras
      @mommy2libras 2 роки тому

      Unless you live in the area you probably wouldn't. It wasn't in the news around here either but that's because I live across the country from there and we have our own crimes and murders that are covered.

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +1

      @@mommy2libras Well they need to expose this story because these main media stations aren't saying a word

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +1

      @@mommy2libras probably because he's black and the alleged suspect is white!

    • @matthewlee4697
      @matthewlee4697 Рік тому

      That's sad and the media is known to pick and choose what they think what stories matters....I guess they felt the case wasn't good enough for coverage unfortunately .

  • @greigallan5845
    @greigallan5845 2 роки тому +30

    No wonder Derontae was acting paranoid sitting in a house emblazoned with Confederate Flags. There's something not right about that Wade character and the timing of his arrival shortly before the events unfolded.

    • @stylish1012
      @stylish1012 2 роки тому +2

      I can just imagine how he felt in that house full of Cave Beast decorated with Confederate flags all throughout! Smh

    • @KaktusLady
      @KaktusLady 2 роки тому +3

      That’s what I noticed and my gut says he was there and covering for the teens who murdered Derontae..

    • @chucksnightmare7674
      @chucksnightmare7674 7 місяців тому

      ​​​@@stylish1012we can smell your Racism all the way on the other side of the country. "Cave beast???" Don't try to deny it. If someone said house full of cave beast decorated with BLM flags you would SCREAM Racism!!! Racism (from all races) will never be stopped with currently "Polically Correct" acceptable Racism. Racism from ALL SIDES, has to STOP.

  • @jabellatv3240
    @jabellatv3240 2 роки тому +9

    Once mom got the phone back after it had been wiped clean from the inside out i knew right there he didn't unalive himself come on now and why tf didn't the police have his phone as evidence just in case he did commit suicide he could of typed a note or his text messages could have revealed a motive smh i really hope they solve his case but like his grandmother said God will handle it 🙏

  • @always_b_natural703
    @always_b_natural703 2 роки тому +232

    The Confederate flag behind Mr. Wade doesn't promote confidence in what he says

    • @KW-kr9gh
      @KW-kr9gh 2 роки тому +29

      😅 Exactly what I was thinking the whole time.

    • @shawnsmiley5830
      @shawnsmiley5830 2 роки тому +14

      I was just about to mention that ..

    • @polkadots716
      @polkadots716 2 роки тому +13

      I noticed that. And he was trying so hard to distance himself from what occurred at his house.

    • @davidpaul6656
      @davidpaul6656 Рік тому +17

      Wade: They think I'm a racist serial killer
      Me: Nice confederate flag window shade

    • @WideAwakeHuman
      @WideAwakeHuman Рік тому +15

      It’s southern Missouri - those flags are everywhere and mean pretty much nothing

  • @corinavandewetering21
    @corinavandewetering21 2 роки тому +8

    They put drugs in his drink so he got messed up.
    They killed him an made a story about suïcide.
    Some people are fucked up but leave a happy boy alone.
    Im sorry that fucked up people stay alive and the good ones die
    R.iP beatiful boy🌺

  • @brettd2318
    @brettd2318 2 роки тому +6

    Excellent video, thank you.

  • @heidibearss3455
    @heidibearss3455 11 місяців тому +2

    Signed the petition. I'm so sad for Derontae's family!

  • @nelisanmn1739
    @nelisanmn1739 2 роки тому +5

    Can't another law agency reinvestigate this case going on forward? It seems like the local cops aren't interested in solving it and get for this young man

  • @moutussiacharyya7510
    @moutussiacharyya7510 11 місяців тому +2

    A forensic search of the phone could recover all the erased data. Just needed an IT expert. but it seems the poor guy may have been coerced into shooting himself because of his drug induced state and attitude of other party goers.

  • @liquidnick
    @liquidnick 2 роки тому +4

    I love how no matter the situation, you can find a “specialist” that can dispute anything. I have no preference either way in this case, I’m just saying this happens every time. Two specialists with conflicting findings.

    • @Virus-xm7qc
      @Virus-xm7qc 11 місяців тому

      Well it's called INVESTIGATION for the TRUTH....

  • @MrEIden231
    @MrEIden231 2 роки тому +8

    The guys story doesn’t make sense... he was given a gun because he was feeling unsafe; and ultimately used it on himself. Worst detectives ever if that didn’t give any red flags.
    I think because he snitched in putting that man in prison the homeowner must have known the guy. The boy knew that they knew each other making him feel paranoid that they might want revenge.

    • @nikkikidd8428
      @nikkikidd8428 2 роки тому

      @Sabia Zeritis did I miss something? When did Doggotv place a bet on anyone let alone Wade? He was theorizing why the boy may have been paranoid.

  • @trymenot81
    @trymenot81 2 роки тому +6

    While wearing an Air Force uniform in Italy, some forty years ago, I was asked by an Italian national, "do they still lynch people in my country?" I was ashamed and not a little angry when I could not answer with a negative response then and neither can I answer that question with a negative response now.

    • @lc6636
      @lc6636 Рік тому

      Almost all people were hanged in those days.

    • @othertalk3313
      @othertalk3313 Рік тому

      @trymenot81 - You could absolutely have said no, both then and now, but the fact that you'd bring up lynching in a case that has nothing to do with it really says a lot about your mindset. A black person died... most likely by his own hand... and you jump straight to lynching. That's wildly paranoid thinking.

  • @GenXfrom75
    @GenXfrom75 2 роки тому +12

    Well, polygraphs are BS. I wouldn't take one, regardless of my innocence or guilt. Ever.

    • @powerboatguy2308
      @powerboatguy2308 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, but if you are going to polygraph anyone, why would you not start with the "witness".

  • @gggina4769
    @gggina4769 Рік тому +1

    I can't believe i missed this video. I've never heard of this case. I truly enjoy your channel. Factual, timed, interesting true crime. Always like your videos.

    • @JustThoughtLounge
      @JustThoughtLounge  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much! Glad you’re enjoying the channel 👍🏻

  • @rabbitss11
    @rabbitss11 2 роки тому +3

    Good work Kevin it's a refreshing to watch crime reporting done in such a respectful and sensible way, one that's pleasingly devoid of the usual SHOUTY, censorious tones adopted by so many other similar shows. That said, the one detail of this case that might stay with me is to learn there's a place in America called 'Knob Lick', truly, the mind boggles!

  • @pickledragonrebel
    @pickledragonrebel 2 роки тому +14

    Bc of a lot of missing information it's very difficult to determine the truth. I don't think the police dept that originally conducted the first investigation should be tasked with the new one. I think the state police should take over. A question I have is how was the scene documented? The fact the only supposed witness was not given a polygraph (was that suggested at all or did the witness refuse?) seems suspect. Also it seems odd that drugs were found in his system seemingly at odds with his character. Though not impossible has it been looked into that he might have been slipped to him? So many questions and not enough answers I think the only way these answers might be uncovered is to have the state agency take over the case. Thanks for the vid. I hadn't heard of this case bf.

    • @nikkikidd8428
      @nikkikidd8428 2 роки тому +1

      @Sabia Zeritis of course no one is going to announce something like that to their family. But he may have said,” hey mom can I talk to you about something? Please don’t be mad but I have been messing up lately and I need help to get back on track so I don’t waste my life and my natural talent for football. I have been self medicating because I have been a bit depressed and worried after the injury and subsequent surgery because I have had a hard time dealing with my pain.” And even if he couldn’t admit something like that it’s easy to test him to see how long he’s been using drugs by doing hair follicle testing and so forth. It’s possible to determine exactly what drugs he was using (if any) and for how long he was using them. And although I agree essentially with your statement it doesn’t mean that his family would not have noticed a worrying change in him if he was using drugs. And the same goes for his siblings and friends. His friends may not have said anything to his family while he was alive but by the amount of love and support he had from his friends I bet that they would have come forward after his death and told his family and law enforcement about any knowledge or suspicions about his possible drug use.

  • @cathybassett6432
    @cathybassett6432 Рік тому +1

    It's August 31, 2023 and they still don't have a clue. What a bummer.

  • @asha4736
    @asha4736 2 роки тому +14

    I'm wondering if some kids gave him the meth as a prank somehow, and not knowing what's going on he freaked out. Not sure how that leads to being given a gun, but I can imagine someone tweaking with no prior experience or w/e absolutely losing their mind.

    • @GospelOutside
      @GospelOutside Рік тому +3

      If a person is pranked in this way, the perps should do prison time.

  • @stylish1012
    @stylish1012 2 роки тому +5

    Everybody in that house is a “SUSPECT”!

  • @bernieheartdragon1888
    @bernieheartdragon1888 2 роки тому +2

    Also his cute lil bunny look is making me cry. He seems like a sweet, cool kid. I hate this place.

  • @christinas2035
    @christinas2035 8 місяців тому +1

    Does anybody else notice the low ratings next to the forensic pathologists' names?

  • @keesha4392
    @keesha4392 Рік тому +1

    Those messages from his phone can still be retrieved...

  • @badgalriri2354
    @badgalriri2354 10 місяців тому +2

    It’s clear from damn 🇬🇧 that he was killed! He was in a Sundown Town too & the Father’s racist posts are sickening especially for someone “who didn’t do it” OR A NORMAL EMPATHETIC HUMAN! The police can EASILY retrieve the data from his Phone too! Wade even SMILES in his interview, also why would the neighbour lie? The police’s statement said he was 21 then 18yo they clearly don’t care! RIP & I hope the truth comes out 🙏🏾🩵😔🕊️

  • @prettyflamingo2812
    @prettyflamingo2812 2 роки тому +6

    Hey !! I thought deleted txt msgs's etc aren't completely erased and could be retrieved ???

    • @SpecialBlanket
      @SpecialBlanket 2 роки тому +1

      correct. when you delete data on a computer you are really just deleting the "link" to the data, so you can't get to it anymore but it's still in there.

  • @astrazenica7783
    @astrazenica7783 Рік тому +3

    Drink & drugs can turn some people crazy
    Yet again a totally politicized case.

  • @marilynsmith365
    @marilynsmith365 2 роки тому +4

    Damn. Look at that beautiful smile. RIP Derontae. 😢

  • @a-jhartung627
    @a-jhartung627 2 роки тому +7

    This is so obviously , at the very least , a badly botched case . Can understand that officials may become tired of adolescent & young adults stupidities BUT they cannot make instant assumptions . Tried to sign petition but refuse to give information that can be traced such as email HOWEVER sincerely hope that someone ore several.someone's have a conscience that troubles them.
    It appears from.your coverage that he was slipped the drugs & more than.one person.is involved .

  • @Findpype
    @Findpype 2 роки тому +3

    This is like the really life “Get Out” movie. Been there before

  • @charlottewilliams147
    @charlottewilliams147 2 роки тому +1

    Another brilliant case I haven’t heard of this one before

  • @ki55Gudby3
    @ki55Gudby3 9 місяців тому +2

    He was so calm and unbothered in the 911 call 👀🤔

  • @maximillionzen
    @maximillionzen 5 місяців тому +2

    The irony of this dude saying he's not racist while a confederate flag hangs in the background is so braindead

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +4

    R.I.P. Derontae 😔😢😔

  • @elizabethv9192
    @elizabethv9192 Рік тому +2

    Where's the witness? Why so much emphasis on this dude Wade. Why isn't the witness being accused of anything? I'm left confused.

  • @kimalettemoon773
    @kimalettemoon773 2 роки тому

    First time here and subscribe as soon as you started speaking love your commentary and definitely will be following you

  • @anniethemese1215
    @anniethemese1215 2 роки тому +4

    Omg, I recognized you as a fellow Canuck the moment I heard you speak. Epic channel!

    • @JustThoughtLounge
      @JustThoughtLounge  2 роки тому +5

      Eight years in the UK and I’ve been told the accent is as strong as ever 😬

    • @anniethemese1215
      @anniethemese1215 2 роки тому

      @@JustThoughtLounge hang onto it my friend. And keep denying we say "aboot". It makes me crazy. But yeah - it was like you live a block from me! Keep your stick on the ice, eh?

    • @anniethemese1215
      @anniethemese1215 2 роки тому

      Oh, sorry to be bogarting your comments but there's a new Canadian themed restaurant called West 4th. I don't know if they make poutine but it may be interesting to check out. You're not from BC (that accent is pure Ontario) but this is a Vancouver themed place. I bet you'd rather come to the cottage, crack a two-four and crank The Hip with us.

    • @JustThoughtLounge
      @JustThoughtLounge  2 роки тому +3

      @@anniethemese1215 oh wow, you’re getting everything in eh. Good ear on ya too…born and raised in the Hammer. Whereabouts are you?
      I just heard of West 4th not too long ago and was planning on checking it out once things open up again…never actually been to BC, but sure I’d still appreciate it.
      And having a couple brown pops at the cottage sounds great!
      Thanks for the laughs, appreciate a fellow Canuck in the comments.

    • @anniethemese1215
      @anniethemese1215 2 роки тому

      @@JustThoughtLounge and yeah, they're bringing back the little brown buddies. How do you survive in a place where they call it "ice" hockey???

  • @lboogiebella484
    @lboogiebella484 2 роки тому +11

    James and a few others killed Jim for sure!

    • @Coppertunes
      @Coppertunes 2 роки тому

      How can you be sure, what knowledge do you have that hasn't been presented already?

    • @lboogiebella484
      @lboogiebella484 2 роки тому +1

      @@Coppertunes this is UA-cam bro relax.

    • @Coppertunes
      @Coppertunes 2 роки тому +1

      @@lboogiebella484 okay gorgeous, just thought you had inside info.

    • @lboogiebella484
      @lboogiebella484 2 роки тому +1

      @@Coppertunes oh lmaoo no I don’t. Just a good guess. And thank you for the compliment

  • @Strype13
    @Strype13 2 роки тому +10

    [9:00] So uhh, whose genius idea was it to interview this bonehead with a confederate flag in the background? We get it, guys. Your message is loud and clear.

    • @asalindstrom6652
      @asalindstrom6652 2 роки тому +1

      Bonehead.. Lol...

    • @Chellz801
      @Chellz801 Рік тому

      He probably wanted it in the shot he put it on the front of his door for a reason

  • @Marc-King777
    @Marc-King777 6 місяців тому

    Why would a 31-year-old give their gun to a 19-year old stranger to protect themself? Secondly, what was going on in that house for Derontae to need to carry around someone else's gun? None of the "official" version of events adds up.

    • @pixi2209
      @pixi2209 2 місяці тому

      Yes, it was crazy story! 😮

  • @kimberlyc84
    @kimberlyc84 8 місяців тому

    I don't know if this has been mentioned down in the comments, I haven't read through all of them. But what I find unusual is that they did not look at the cell phone because nothing is truly ever deleted. It is just moved to an empty space. The messages are there.

  • @rulebrittania2816
    @rulebrittania2816 2 роки тому +3

    Yes he probably got paranoid of the drugs and case closed

  • @havyn88
    @havyn88 Рік тому +6

    Wade : "I'm not a racist"
    Confederate Flag : "Are you sure about that"

  • @yolandawilson6619
    @yolandawilson6619 Рік тому +2

    His skin was beautiful! This is heartbreaking.

  • @Dami784
    @Dami784 4 місяці тому +2

    Any update on the case now?

  • @Anne-nz3po
    @Anne-nz3po 2 роки тому +5

    Was Zachary tested for gun powder residue? Thanks

    • @JustThoughtLounge
      @JustThoughtLounge  2 роки тому +5

      To my knowledge it was only his statement that was taken and not tested for gun powder.

  • @kat0726
    @kat0726 2 роки тому +1

    Just because there was a direct fall to the floor, doesn't mean he wasn't shot.

  • @amazingsupergirl7125
    @amazingsupergirl7125 2 роки тому +3

    Just from this video, it sounds like whoever was with him in the attic did it

  • @mahoganylove5757
    @mahoganylove5757 2 роки тому +2

    Can't even watch this all the way so sad my people are clueless about certain situations and people. Horrible 😪

  • @pnjoroge5555
    @pnjoroge5555 2 роки тому +1

    This is really sad and quite scary

  • @celiagonzalez3847
    @celiagonzalez3847 Рік тому

    What a great smile. 😃. Hope his case 🙏 will not be piled up in the 'cold case file'. R.I.P ✝️ 🕊 😢.

  • @JockMacHH
    @JockMacHH 2 роки тому +10

    It's a tragedy and difficult to say with any certainty what happened.

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +1

      Really? In an obvious racist whitemans house? Not difficult at all to understand it say with certainty because it's pretty obvious! Don't try that deflecting crap!

    • @nikkikidd8428
      @nikkikidd8428 2 роки тому

      @Deronlouis88 Louis just as I understand your comment is coming from a sincere place , I don’t think John MacGregors comment was an attempt to deflect anything. I took it to mean that we won’t ever know the EXACT way this tragedy played out. Such as the timeline and sequence of events.

    • @deronlouis88louis52
      @deronlouis88louis52 2 роки тому +1

      @@nikkikidd8428 Dude GET REAL! I think that whiteman killed that kid! When he saw that big black kid in his house he probably got all of those evil thoughts that came through his head and took that child's life

    • @nikkikidd8428
      @nikkikidd8428 2 роки тому

      @@deronlouis88louis52 again I was just saying that the comment John MacGregor made didn’t even imply that he thought differently. I actually agree with you. And if you read my comment posted earlier you will see that. Just because John said ,”It’s a tragedy and difficult to say with any certainty what happened.” does NOT mean or even IMPLY that he thinks differently about what happened then you. Nor was it a deflection of any kind. Seriously, I bet he actually agrees with you.

    • @divifemtv
      @divifemtv 6 місяців тому

      It's actually quite certain. ...