I honestly love how capable Barabara is in this movie. She never stops fighting. You would think she would be subdued at some point forcing Batman to have to come and fight Freeze himself. But no that doesn't really happen.
All I can say is your COMPASSION for Nora Fries, Kunak and Mr. Freeze is SO touching (as well as the polar bears). Glad for your REACTION to this DIRECT TO VIDEO movie (you continue to HUMANIZE me with your reactions). Thanks, Meg!
@@MegMageReactsthere's an alternate universe comic where Nora isn't really Mr Freeze'S wife but a ww2 coma patient who remained ageless and beutiful so Victor became obsesebly in love with her.
I was okay with Mr. Freeze returning in Batman Beyond to wrap up his story, but bringing him back in the New Batman Adventures and turning into a full blown villain was an insult to his character arc and to fans that loved him. Freeze wasn’t like Batman’s other villains. He was a tragic, broken man who lost the only thing he loved and was forced to turn to illegal means to save her. Freeze wasn’t a literal villain until the writers ruined him. Fans love Freeze because he’s sympathetic, relatable and in real life, it can happen to anyone!!!
Honestly while I get this take, I don’t agree, I actually like the idea of Freeze becoming a full-on asshole. I just think his motive for doing so could have been executed better. Suppose he and Nora had been on the rocks to begin with and it didn’t improve just because he saved her life? What if his version of Nora was just that idealized figure dancing in a snow globe and not reality? And once he had to reckon with that he implodes? I think that can work well.
It's worth noting that this specific iteration of Freeze's backstory was a B:tAS invention. It's been widely adapted since then, thanks to its popularity, but the whole Nora/Victor Fries thing did not exist before the show did. So it's perfectly reasonable, I think, that subsequent versions of the character have broken away from it - I mean, there's not much more to be DONE with it; it was done so perfectly the first time, and depending too much on it just turns Mr. Freeze into a one-trick pony.
I love how each of Batmans major villains mirrors an aspect of his character. Freeze is a representation of Bruce's inability to move on from his patents death. He's mentally frozen in the past, just like Freeze is with his wife. Something I thought about watching the beginning again.
I love the feel of the old batman animated series and movies like this one. I can’t describe the feeling but just watching and listening to the sound of the voices sounding back then it is comforting and the design is gorgeous. Along with the art style
Apparently the rest of the BTAS crew did not like this movie because it was made without their input. Some choices in the later episodes makes sense now.
@@Narutoanime16g Bruce Timm, Alan Burnett and Paul Dini were not involved in this movie. Bruce Timm only became aware of the ending when they were working on episodes later on.
@@Narutoanime16g Boyd Kirkland was a writer and director on "Batman: The Animated Series" for a good chunk of the show's run. He ultimately wrote and directed "Sub-Zero." It wasn't so much that guys like Bruce Timm and Paul Dini didn't like the movie or thought it was bad; it's just that when it came time for them to do "The New Batman Adventures," they wanted to use Mr. Freeze again, but found it difficult to do so because "Sub-Zero" had effectively ended Freeze's story and removed his primary motivation. Hell, there was a comic set in the B:TAS continuity, written by Bruce Timm that saw Mr. Freeze's story go down a different path. They wanted to adapt that story for the animated series, but again "Sub-Zero" had just been produced, and it wouldn't have made sense, continuity-wise. While the episode "Cold Comfort" wasn't received particularly well by fans, Timm & Co. at least got to redeem themselves and Freeze's character in the "Batman Beyond" episode "Meltdown", which found a way to build off what they did to him in "Cold Comfort," while making him sympathetic like he was in the B:TAS era.
This was the 2nd ever, DC and Batman animated film. It was an straight to video feature released 26 years ago (March 17th) between the end of Batman:the animated series on Fox Kids and the start of The New Batman Adventures on Kids WB. Good story and storytelling. The title alone was awesome. The voice cast of course, never fails. Victor Fries getting some sort of happy ending was pretty cool. After all those years, he deserved a win. If one of the animated series' creators' Bruce Timm was involved, Nora would've died because the prolonged cryo statis should've kill her. 2 animation companies in South Korea were involved with the film, it won an Annie Award (Best Home Video Animation) and was the last Batman animated home-release with cel animation. After the disappointment with Batman and Robin in '97, this was refreshing to watch.
In my heart, I can never see Mr Freeze as a true villain. Instead, I see him as a tortured victim. He is nothing more than a desperate husband, a scientist who wants nothing but to feel the warm embrace of his beloved wife, Nora, without watching her die. He is nothing if not a poetic character, and deep down, I will always empathise with him. I will always be grateful to Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, and the Batman: The Animated Series (1992) crew for redefining Mr Freeze from a goofy C-lister to a complex, tragic character. I truly hope we see this fantastic character in a live-action reboot one day. Sympathetic, complex villains like Mr Freeze, Xu Wenwu, Zuko, Magneto, etc... are always a pleasure to see. This is such an underrated animated film. Btw I do think Barbara and Dicks relationship in this movie is pretty cute. Though I do personally prefer Dick with Starfire form the Teen Titans, however Dick and Barbara are always an equally sweet couple
This movie marks the end of the FoxKids era of Batman the Animated Series/The Adventures of Batman & Robin; before moving over to the (at that time) brand new KidsWB where the animation style, tone, character designs, etc. all changed to be more in line with Superman the animated series. In spite of all that (to say nothing of the 2 to 3 year time skip between this movie and the 3 part Superman the animated series episode “World’s Finest”) I assure you it is all the same continuity.
They really "ended" on a high note. But season 3 was better the 2nd time around. And World's Finest is a hidden gem, there was no way Batman v Superman was gonna beat that. Superman TAS and Justice League are kinda meh.
@@Sandlund93 For real? Superman TAS and especially Justice League are widely considered great entries to the DCAU. Justice League's first season was definitely a learning curve, but by the time they got to the second season, and then relaunched as Justice League Unlimited, it's considered one of the all-time great animated superhero shows.
@@thedefinitionisthis Well, I just think Batman TAS and Spider-Man TAS are in a league of their own. Unless we're talking Anime as well, but I would consider that its own category. I do think Avatar TLA became better and better as it progressed but Hunter x Hunter is even better. Kuroko's Basketball was great too but those 3 are the only ones I have seen. I could see myself rewatch any of these 5 (already did with 4 of them) but Justice League? Nah.
@@Sandlund93not a big anime guy tbh. But within the DCAU, outside of BTAS, Justice League (Unlimited) is easily the series I rewatch the most. A lot of DCAU fans feel the same. I definitely put it above Spidey TAS, which along with XMen TAS, are pretty tough rewatches, given the cruddy animation and at times hokey writing/dialogue. But hey, to each their own.
For real I've always thought Mr Freeze do you think Nora would be alright if she knew all about the lives you ended just to save hers like nah she would be disgusted and horrified but either Mr Freeze hasn't thought that far or he doesn't care.
Thing is in B:TAS he only appeared in 2 episodes. Heart of ice he's not killing for her - he's seeking revenge. And ultimately he's stopped before any lives are taken. In Deep Freeze, his only action is to put a billionaire into his same condition, per the man's request, in exchange for her body. When the billionaire tries to freeze earth, he assists Batman and Robin to stop him. Sub-Zero is the only time he actually has deaths on the record: the submariners at the beginning in a fit of panic, and an attempt at Barbara's life, which fails. As many times as he broke the law, and as broken as he was psychologically, this Freeze specifically has a fairly low list of things to forgive
@@seannetworkblogsandgames7504 huh I forgot that Mr Freeze didn't appear that much up by this point it felt like he had a bigger impact than just appearing in this episode by this point
Such a beautiful looking movie and awesome last chapter for the og Mr Freeze in the BTAS timeline. This is the last animated film that was a part of the original BTAS timeline. Every other show/movie/comic in the dcau have mainly felt like they were only loosely connected to BTAS . Like Tim/Robin was older in a Static Shock episode(went off to join The Titans) unlike in the Batman Beyond timeline where he didn't last as Robin because of The Joker. Mr Freeze is a straight up villain in the New Adventures which takes away what made Mr Freeze special/unique in the BTAS timeline. In one of the DCAU comics Nora dies and Batman is there with Freeze at Nora's grave comforting him. There are so many more things that don't connect to the original show. I still enjoy them all though, they remind me of the DCEU in ways where they don't all feel as connected to each other either .
My first time watching this I was a kid, I was sick and had a sleepover at my aunt and uncle's house. My medicine knocked me out when the credits started. It was a good way to get me out of the I am sick feeling.
This movie was made as a tie-in release alongside the 1997 Batman & Robin live action movie... but Warner Bros. chose to delay the release of Sub-Zero after Batman & Robin flopped at the box office. They didn't want it to be caught up in (and suffer from) the same bad press they were already getting.
It's been a long time since I watched this film. I think it was 1996. I need to watch it again. Don't forget to finish The Adventures of Batman & Robin, there's only one episode left. Then comes The New Batman Adventures.
Dick and Barbara are one of the best comics couples. That's why to me is so shocking that in the Universe of Arkham games she and Tim are togheter instead.
I don’t know the numbers but I’m pretty sure this movie did better than the Batman & Robin movie that was released a few months earlier and it’s not hard to understand why.
For me Mr. Freeze loses too much of his 'sympathetic villain' status in this one. The first two stories he is reckless when it comes to collateral damage, but he really only wants to kill Ferris Boyle and save Nora. This time he's willing to straight up murder an innocent woman. Even if it's to save Nora it's a step too far for me. And by 'Cold Comfort' in The New Batman Adventures (aka season 3 or4 of Batman the Animated Series depending on how it gets broken up) his motives are villainous with no redeeming side. Luckily the Batman Beyond episode 'Meltdown' has him back to being sympathetic (and then some.)
Mister Freeze's backstory in the comics didn't originally involve Nora, the orgin in the animated series is pretty much Freeze's powers with Cryonic Man's backstory. Cryonic Man is where they took all the backstory inspiration from.
For me, the only downside to this movie is that this is where CGI elements began to rear their ugly heads. CGI vehicles, objects, etc, have never looked good combined with hand drawn animation, and they certainly don't look good here. Luckily the overall quality of the DCAU's writing, character work, voice acting, etc, is usually able to compensate for this draw back going forward.
I honestly love how capable Barabara is in this movie. She never stops fighting. You would think she would be subdued at some point forcing Batman to have to come and fight Freeze himself. But no that doesn't really happen.
I loved her blossoming romance with Robin too.
I cannot for the life of me understand why Bruce Timm was against that.
All I can say is your COMPASSION for Nora Fries, Kunak and Mr. Freeze is SO touching (as well as the polar bears). Glad for your REACTION to this DIRECT TO VIDEO movie (you continue to HUMANIZE me with your reactions). Thanks, Meg!
Wow, thank you 😊❤
@@MegMageReactsthere's an alternate universe comic where Nora isn't really Mr Freeze'S wife but a ww2 coma patient who remained ageless and beutiful so Victor became obsesebly in love with her.
That music that plays when Victor walks away, knowing his wife is going to live…
Gets me every time
I was okay with Mr. Freeze returning in Batman Beyond to wrap up his story, but bringing him back in the New Batman Adventures and turning into a full blown villain was an insult to his character arc and to fans that loved him. Freeze wasn’t like Batman’s other villains. He was a tragic, broken man who lost the only thing he loved and was forced to turn to illegal means to save her. Freeze wasn’t a literal villain until the writers ruined him. Fans love Freeze because he’s sympathetic, relatable and in real life, it can happen to anyone!!!
Honestly while I get this take, I don’t agree, I actually like the idea of Freeze becoming a full-on asshole. I just think his motive for doing so could have been executed better. Suppose he and Nora had been on the rocks to begin with and it didn’t improve just because he saved her life? What if his version of Nora was just that idealized figure dancing in a snow globe and not reality? And once he had to reckon with that he implodes? I think that can work well.
It's worth noting that this specific iteration of Freeze's backstory was a B:tAS invention. It's been widely adapted since then, thanks to its popularity, but the whole Nora/Victor Fries thing did not exist before the show did. So it's perfectly reasonable, I think, that subsequent versions of the character have broken away from it - I mean, there's not much more to be DONE with it; it was done so perfectly the first time, and depending too much on it just turns Mr. Freeze into a one-trick pony.
I love how each of Batmans major villains mirrors an aspect of his character. Freeze is a representation of Bruce's inability to move on from his patents death. He's mentally frozen in the past, just like Freeze is with his wife. Something I thought about watching the beginning again.
I love the feel of the old batman animated series and movies like this one. I can’t describe the feeling but just watching and listening to the sound of the voices sounding back then it is comforting and the design is gorgeous. Along with the art style
Apparently the rest of the BTAS crew did not like this movie because it was made without their input. Some choices in the later episodes makes sense now.
@@Narutoanime16g Bruce Timm, Alan Burnett and Paul Dini were not involved in this movie. Bruce Timm only became aware of the ending when they were working on episodes later on.
I think they were just unaware of its context while they were making those episodes.
@@Narutoanime16g Boyd Kirkland was a writer and director on "Batman: The Animated Series" for a good chunk of the show's run. He ultimately wrote and directed "Sub-Zero." It wasn't so much that guys like Bruce Timm and Paul Dini didn't like the movie or thought it was bad; it's just that when it came time for them to do "The New Batman Adventures," they wanted to use Mr. Freeze again, but found it difficult to do so because "Sub-Zero" had effectively ended Freeze's story and removed his primary motivation. Hell, there was a comic set in the B:TAS continuity, written by Bruce Timm that saw Mr. Freeze's story go down a different path. They wanted to adapt that story for the animated series, but again "Sub-Zero" had just been produced, and it wouldn't have made sense, continuity-wise. While the episode "Cold Comfort" wasn't received particularly well by fans, Timm & Co. at least got to redeem themselves and Freeze's character in the "Batman Beyond" episode "Meltdown", which found a way to build off what they did to him in "Cold Comfort," while making him sympathetic like he was in the B:TAS era.
@@thedefinitionisthis Ah, now I see why Barbara and Dick's blossoming romance was cut short.
I loved every single BTAS movie they made but Mystery of The Batwoman is hella underrated.
Betcha never, betcha neva
This was the 2nd ever, DC and Batman animated film.
It was an straight to video feature released 26 years ago (March 17th) between the end of Batman:the animated series on Fox Kids and the start of The New Batman Adventures on Kids WB.
Good story and storytelling.
The title alone was awesome.
The voice cast of course, never fails.
Victor Fries getting some sort of happy ending was pretty cool.
After all those years, he deserved a win.
If one of the animated series' creators' Bruce Timm was involved, Nora would've died because the prolonged cryo statis should've kill her.
2 animation companies in South Korea were involved with the film, it won an Annie Award
(Best Home Video Animation) and was the last Batman animated home-release with cel animation.
After the disappointment with Batman and Robin in '97, this was refreshing to watch.
In my heart, I can never see Mr Freeze as a true villain. Instead, I see him as a tortured victim. He is nothing more than a desperate husband, a scientist who wants nothing but to feel the warm embrace of his beloved wife, Nora, without watching her die. He is nothing if not a poetic character, and deep down, I will always empathise with him. I will always be grateful to Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, and the Batman: The Animated Series (1992) crew for redefining Mr Freeze from a goofy C-lister to a complex, tragic character. I truly hope we see this fantastic character in a live-action reboot one day. Sympathetic, complex villains like Mr Freeze, Xu Wenwu, Zuko, Magneto, etc... are always a pleasure to see. This is such an underrated animated film.
Btw I do think Barbara and Dicks relationship in this movie is pretty cute. Though I do personally prefer Dick with Starfire form the Teen Titans, however Dick and Barbara are always an equally sweet couple
Still, he tried to murder Barbara.
Not a good guy.
This movie marks the end of the FoxKids era of Batman the Animated Series/The Adventures of Batman & Robin; before moving over to the (at that time) brand new KidsWB where the animation style, tone, character designs, etc. all changed to be more in line with Superman the animated series. In spite of all that (to say nothing of the 2 to 3 year time skip between this movie and the 3 part Superman the animated series episode “World’s Finest”) I assure you it is all the same continuity.
They really "ended" on a high note. But season 3 was better the 2nd time around. And World's Finest is a hidden gem, there was no way Batman v Superman was gonna beat that. Superman TAS and Justice League are kinda meh.
@@Sandlund93 For real? Superman TAS and especially Justice League are widely considered great entries to the DCAU. Justice League's first season was definitely a learning curve, but by the time they got to the second season, and then relaunched as Justice League Unlimited, it's considered one of the all-time great animated superhero shows.
@@thedefinitionisthis Well, I just think Batman TAS and Spider-Man TAS are in a league of their own. Unless we're talking Anime as well, but I would consider that its own category.
I do think Avatar TLA became better and better as it progressed but Hunter x Hunter is even better. Kuroko's Basketball was great too but those 3 are the only ones I have seen. I could see myself rewatch any of these 5 (already did with 4 of them) but Justice League? Nah.
@@Sandlund93not a big anime guy tbh. But within the DCAU, outside of BTAS, Justice League (Unlimited) is easily the series I rewatch the most. A lot of DCAU fans feel the same. I definitely put it above Spidey TAS, which along with XMen TAS, are pretty tough rewatches, given the cruddy animation and at times hokey writing/dialogue. But hey, to each their own.
You always watch the best Batman series and movies have fun weekend
thanks Meg.🎵🐶🎼🐕🎼🐶🎶
I love the fun sound effects in this edit!! We love a little bonk and boioioing and gluglug
For real I've always thought Mr Freeze do you think Nora would be alright if she knew all about the lives you ended just to save hers like nah she would be disgusted and horrified but either Mr Freeze hasn't thought that far or he doesn't care.
Thing is in B:TAS he only appeared in 2 episodes. Heart of ice he's not killing for her - he's seeking revenge. And ultimately he's stopped before any lives are taken.
In Deep Freeze, his only action is to put a billionaire into his same condition, per the man's request, in exchange for her body. When the billionaire tries to freeze earth, he assists Batman and Robin to stop him.
Sub-Zero is the only time he actually has deaths on the record: the submariners at the beginning in a fit of panic, and an attempt at Barbara's life, which fails. As many times as he broke the law, and as broken as he was psychologically, this Freeze specifically has a fairly low list of things to forgive
@@seannetworkblogsandgames7504 huh I forgot that Mr Freeze didn't appear that much up by this point it felt like he had a bigger impact than just appearing in this episode by this point
This is my personal favorite Batman movie ever
Such a beautiful looking movie and awesome last chapter for the og Mr Freeze in the BTAS timeline. This is the last animated film that was a part of the original BTAS timeline. Every other show/movie/comic in the dcau have mainly felt like they were only loosely connected to BTAS . Like Tim/Robin was older in a Static Shock episode(went off to join The Titans) unlike in the Batman Beyond timeline where he didn't last as Robin because of The Joker. Mr Freeze is a straight up villain in the New Adventures which takes away what made Mr Freeze special/unique in the BTAS timeline. In one of the DCAU comics Nora dies and Batman is there with Freeze at Nora's grave comforting him. There are so many more things that don't connect to the original show. I still enjoy them all though, they remind me of the DCEU in ways where they don't all feel as connected to each other either .
one of the greatest animated movies I have ever seen. I watched it so much as a kid on my VHS the tape got messed up lmao
My favorite DCAU movie is still to come...Worlds Finest!
fun fact about the polar bears, they can swim over 100 miles non stop.
My first time watching this I was a kid, I was sick and had a sleepover at my aunt and uncle's house. My medicine knocked me out when the credits started. It was a good way to get me out of the I am sick feeling.
I hope meg reacts to static shock one day
Omg yes! Thats another show whose messages will totally break her down with the emotional undertones.
I grew up with this movie. Last time I rewatched TAS it was the high point, even better than A Feat of Clay.
This really reflects the Barbara Gordon / Dick Grayson relationship I grew up with in the comics.
Hope you had a chilling experience.
Badum tsss
The mystery of Batwoman and the new animated adventures area must
Hi Meg hope you are having an great and awesome weekend ❤
I assume Freeze killed the bears parents and then raised the cubs.
the polar bears were my favorite characters in this movie
damn good flick with some awesome animation quality :)
Where are you watching this? It's not on Max.
You should really watch Batman: The Doom That Came To Gotham it came out last year it's basically Batman in Cthulu.
While Mask of the Phantasm is probably still the better movie, the pathos that Mr. Freeze exudes is top-notch. I love this movie so much.
Nora is a funny character in Harley Quinn
my preferred Batfam ships:
Bruce/Selina
Dick/Kory
Barbara/Dinah
Tim/Kon
Jason/the ground
Not Jason/Crowbar?
@@Werewolf914 I'm more partial to Jason/bomb
tbh I like pre-death Jason just fine, I just really don't like him as Red Hood
I think the Mystery of the Batwoman is a better movie than Subzero. Should check it out later down the line.
If you like this I highly recommend “Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.” Great Batman movie.
I've always heard this is one of the best Batman movies, but for some reason where I live I could never get access to it.
This movie was made as a tie-in release alongside the 1997 Batman & Robin live action movie... but Warner Bros. chose to delay the release of Sub-Zero after Batman & Robin flopped at the box office. They didn't want it to be caught up in (and suffer from) the same bad press they were already getting.
The movies i recommend are batman bad blood, and son of batman
"Batman: Mystery Of The Batwoman" is part 3 and I love that one mostly💪🏾💪🏾
Be sure you do a reaction to that movie next
Mr. Freeze got made at those people for crashing into his cave and nearly killed his wife
hi Meg
"A woman who is the same weight / height / whatever."
AKA almost every woman in Bruce Tim's art style has literally the same body. 😆
It's been a long time since I watched this film. I think it was 1996. I need to watch it again. Don't forget to finish The Adventures of Batman & Robin, there's only one episode left. Then comes The New Batman Adventures.
Damn girl, that's a married man, a devoted married man
One Batman movie you need to watch is Batman: Ninja.
Dick and Barbara are one of the best comics couples. That's why to me is so shocking that in the Universe of Arkham games she and Tim are togheter instead.
Please watch invincible
I don’t know the numbers but I’m pretty sure this movie did better than the Batman & Robin movie that was released a few months earlier and it’s not hard to understand why.
03:24, more like neighbors or companions.
For me Mr. Freeze loses too much of his 'sympathetic villain' status in this one. The first two stories he is reckless when it comes to collateral damage, but he really only wants to kill Ferris Boyle and save Nora. This time he's willing to straight up murder an innocent woman. Even if it's to save Nora it's a step too far for me. And by 'Cold Comfort' in The New Batman Adventures (aka season 3 or4 of Batman the Animated Series depending on how it gets broken up) his motives are villainous with no redeeming side. Luckily the Batman Beyond episode 'Meltdown' has him back to being sympathetic (and then some.)
Mister Freeze's backstory in the comics didn't originally involve Nora, the orgin in the animated series is pretty much Freeze's powers with Cryonic Man's backstory. Cryonic Man is where they took all the backstory inspiration from.
You should watch Batman ninja 🥷 the Japanese dub next
12:43, oh sure, "dance" is that what the kids call it these days? lol
I took years of ballet and tap and was a professional Musical Theatre actor in NYC for about 6 years! DANCE
- Caleb
@@MegMageReacts interesting to know, I was in a joking mood when I made that comment so I hope no offense taken.
None at all!
- Caleb
@MegMageReacts, please do a video on mad love
33:31 Friese deserve better 😢
I'm wondering when exactly Dick got ruined as a name because it started to mean...something else 😐
😂😂😂
polar opposites. nice lol
For me, the only downside to this movie is that this is where CGI elements began to rear their ugly heads. CGI vehicles, objects, etc, have never looked good combined with hand drawn animation, and they certainly don't look good here. Luckily the overall quality of the DCAU's writing, character work, voice acting, etc, is usually able to compensate for this draw back going forward.
You added a classic Vine in a Class ass batman episode.
How dare you. Im still laughing while typing this..
Shame on you.