I like the stock sounds with resonator better... at least on the video. Maybe in person its different. But guess the extra bit of torque makes the mod worth the exercise if you have the desire.
That does sound good. Wanted a Mach 1, but couldn't wait. Got a 21 twister orange gt with active exhaust, magnaride, 401a, performance pack, and manual. Had a muffler shop build me an h-pipe and I think it sounds amazing
I have 2021 Mach 1 , I work at Ford Dealership, another customer bought a Mach 1 and had the H pipe installed before delivery. We put them side by side and the mechanics were split on which sounded better. The majority felt the slight difference wasn't worth cutting out resonator. Just my 2 cents.
Odd because it’s a huge difference in sound especially at high rpm like 6500 to 7000. The resonator was the first thing I removed for my Steeda Hpipe. Even with OEM mufflers it was huge difference in sound.
@@OEMPlus no. With the oem and hpipe it’s was very nice even at highway speed it’s barely noticeable till you step into it. With the Steeda aggressive time it’s loud even at idle then when you are wot it’s extremely loud. But again it’s sounded fine just cruising deep sound not crazy.
very nice comparison and yeah I don't know why everyone else doesn't do it this way. Much easier to appreciate the added low tones. I've already got an h pipe sitting at the dealership where it will deliver to get put on before I even pick it up, knew I wanted that sound and torque right out of the gate. Really diggin these videos, its helping kill the time till Nov lol
just a bit of info on your jacking point, I have steeds jacking rails, simply unbolt 4 bolts hold rails in place and bolt back up, you can then jack car up anywhere along under the rails, initially designed for fox body race cars to stiffen up the body because apparently they suffered with a bit of flex , hope this is helpful 🙏
@@Wantedx9 yea it is, mach 1 with the fjg is the primary image of the mach 1. if its not that color, you wont kno its a mach 1. i get what youre saying
So, I have Steeda's X-pipe. I really don't know a lot about the gains... BUT... The sound is absolutely without a doubt my favorite change to my '22 Mach 1!!! THE BURBLES!!!!! For instance... easy acceleration in 3rd (man pedal) about half throttle up to 35ish mph and roll out of the throttle and those burbles sound off. With just the addition of an x-pipe (everything is drivetrain is completely stock) this is the best sounding V8 I have ever owned. It was a waste to purchase the BO sound system because the music from that active exhaust in track mode is one the the best parts of this vehicle!!!!!
I agree these cars IMO sound perfect from the factory. One of the main reasons I left my exhaust stock downstream of my twin turbos. Eventually Id like to add electronic cutouts just so I have little to no back pressure but otherwise absolutely perfect as a daily
On my 2020 csgt I went through to exhaust setups a custom one with xpipe from a local shop and then a borla atak catback and that thing sounded amazing.. but my new 2022 mach1 with this adaptive exhaust sounds ridiculous stock. Thinking bout an xpipe and just a axel back setup. Idk though. It sounds perfect in track mode.
To be honest the change in resonator delete is kind of minimal but i promise for the price you wont be disappointed. It adds a bit to the overall sound without droning or other negatives plus you save some weight down low.
I'm a little skeptical on that torque increase. I mean, those guys are selling their H-pipe, so I'm not convinced that it's accurate. Seems like too much torque gain for such a basic modification.
I see what you mean. But the way it tapers off seems to make sense. It is also possible that maybe on their first pull they rolled into the throttle. I believe older generations came with an h pipe stock. I wonder why ford got away from it
@@truckandroll989 Yeah, back in the Foxbody days, the most popular exhaust mod was Flowmasters with an off-road H-pipe. Those cars sounded great like that.
Honestly the muffler setup from the factory is glorious. Check out my latest video of me racing my wife and the camera from inside her car when shes chasing me sounds fantastic. I used to not like how the 5.0s sounded but as long as you dont make them too loud I think they are Ok.
What I want to know is how to replace the headlight bulb because there is no opening or nothing so I guess you have to buy the whole headlight assy when one goes out how dumb is that? Maybe you can advise us new owners. Thanks
To be honest it doesnt pop and bang that much. Now with the turbos I get a little bit if I do a pull, let off, and the wastegates dump. All and all a pretty tame exhaust. Older i get the more I want to be seen more but heard less
I deleted my resonator and did custom pipes and i took airflow restriction out cold air intake to gain back my 10hp loss on my 2022 mach 1 10 speed auto.
Yea im sure they are saying it is for emissions but I bet when they release the S650 Mustang it will have 480hp in the GT. That way they can say it is a 30hp bump (GT gets derated to 450hp for 2022). I wouldn’t let it deter you. Youll never notice 10hp in the seat of your pants
@@truckandroll989 Agree all the way around. Appreciate your perspective and your excellent videos. One other burning question….handling package or no handling package?? I don’t intend to drive much (maybe ever?) on a track….I want the best performance, but I’ll be mostly around town and on the wide open roads of rocky mtn west. (As an aside, I took delivery of a ‘21 F-150 Powerboost last month. What a machine!!)
@@John-xd2xj if you arent going to track it Id forgeo the handling package UNLESS you intend to take it to alot of car shows and the $3500 is worth the wow factor when people see the spoiler, wheels, and splitter.
They are back at the mufflers in the rear of the car. So you could do long tubes, mid pipes, even upstream cutouts, etc. and still retain functionality. The beauty of the resonator delete is its not obnoxious but gives you a meaner sound so you dont have to constsntly drive around in Track mode if you wanted to hear it growl
Great Videos! Thank you so much. How does the Mach 1 compare to your ZL1 in terms of feel, driving fun and overall satisfaction? You really seem to enjoy your Mach 1. I always thought the the ZL1 is in another League!? Way better, faster and more fun to drive. What do you think? Would really be interested in your opinion…. kind of like buying advice if you‘re not decided between the two. Thanks again!
Two very different cars. Biggest selling point for ZL1 is torque everywhere anytime. Beyond that maybe also superior steering feel but Mach is better on track, more comfortable, more modern feel inside. Its a car you could drive more often for sure
@@truckandroll989What about your rear spoiler and mirror caps ? Is it a metallic black ? I would like the colour code for that and part number for the spoiler please 🙂
As someone who's ran x-pipes on my German car, I thought I made the hard decision to go with the H-pipe on my Mach 1.....and then I came across the double H pipe. And now, I'm going t to spend $640.
Beautiful car good sir. Thanks for the video. How much do you think it would be to have shop install an H pipe? Would the performance gains apply to a standard GT too? Cheers!
Yea performance should be the same on any 2018+ GT. X pipe is where you will really see solid gains across the rpm range. Id expect a shop to charge 2hrs labor. So under $250
Yea I wouldnt overspend on something like this. Theres no magic for this part at this level. Pretty much a resonator delete x or h pipe is the same as the next. Now, if one is stainless vs steel or aluminized steel or wtv you could decide if that matters to you. Otherwise save your money and get the cheap one
@marktarascio4766 it has been a minute since installed but I believe it was either a low grade stainless or aluminized steel. Either way it should last for a while. It definitely wasn’t plain uncoated mild steel.
sweet video. Would the same hold true for the GT?? Especially, since both the GT and Mach 1 have TONS of HP already, I'd love to have more torque. HP sells cars, torque wins races. hahaha! Thanks!
You’re not gaining 40tq with an H pipe any where in the power band. Sorry it’s not possible. More like 5. Also I don’t know if you’re aware but the specific unique sound Ford gave the Mach1 stems from the resonator.
@@TheCdM1981 they key is “where” in the rpm range. Im not stating it makes 40ft lb more of peak torque but its gaining around 40 ft lb lower in the rpm range due to the exhaust change. Steeda has done the dyno for us. The facts are there. It picks up torque lower in the torque range.
@@truckandroll989 you’re not making 40lbs of tq anywhere in the power band with any sort of resonator delete. Lol. What facts. From Steeda trying to sell an H pipe. Lol. Stop
Nope no droning on the highway. Its only loud on a cold start where the idle is high. After that it quiets down. Has a bit more of a muscle car tone at WOT especially in track mode
@@douglasborden3938 except its loud(er) lol. Im not saying h pipe effected the high idle at start but rather it just amplifies the noise without a resonator. I typically set it to start in quiet mode and then flip modes to sport or track once im out of the neighborhood
Sound is subjective for sure. Check out some of my newer videos with the twin turbos installed. Ill be dropping a video this weekend after installing cutouts with the turbo system too.
@@cameronsund5477 Manual is 100x more fun....I have an automatic daily driver with paddle shifters and its no where close to the fun of a manual car. If you want to be bored quick while cruzing buy an automatic car.
Love the H-Pipe. But I also find that I really dig the exhaust note with the resonator. It sounds SO clean.
I guess if HP is your goal, it's worth it. I'm not going to race or track the car.
I like the stock sounds with resonator better... at least on the video. Maybe in person its different. But guess the extra bit of torque makes the mod worth the exercise if you have the desire.
That does sound good. Wanted a Mach 1, but couldn't wait. Got a 21 twister orange gt with active exhaust, magnaride, 401a, performance pack, and manual. Had a muffler shop build me an h-pipe and I think it sounds amazing
one thing for certain mach 1 is not mass produced like the gt which is what some like, has lots of resell value
@@draco2xx i agree
Man, is it just me but the stock sounds maybe better than the aftermarket....??
Agreed!
Love the H pipe sound and the big tips the Mach gets.
I have 2021 Mach 1 , I work at Ford Dealership, another customer bought a Mach 1 and had the H pipe installed before delivery. We put them side by side and the mechanics were split on which sounded better. The majority felt the slight difference wasn't worth cutting out resonator. Just my 2 cents.
Odd because it’s a huge difference in sound especially at high rpm like 6500 to 7000. The resonator was the first thing I removed for my Steeda Hpipe. Even with OEM mufflers it was huge difference in sound.
@@SerendipitousProducts does it drone?
@@OEMPlus no. With the oem and hpipe it’s was very nice even at highway speed it’s barely noticeable till you step into it. With the Steeda aggressive time it’s loud even at idle then when you are wot it’s extremely loud. But again it’s sounded fine just cruising deep sound not crazy.
I agree. The car sounds awsome. I resonator has no restriction in it.
very nice comparison and yeah I don't know why everyone else doesn't do it this way. Much easier to appreciate the added low tones. I've already got an h pipe sitting at the dealership where it will deliver to get put on before I even pick it up, knew I wanted that sound and torque right out of the gate. Really diggin these videos, its helping kill the time till Nov lol
Ha! I waiting for my November baby as well. Gonna use my X pipe I took off of my 2016. Ford needs to stop changing my date.
just a bit of info on your jacking point, I have steeds jacking rails, simply unbolt 4 bolts hold rails in place and bolt back up, you can then jack car up anywhere along under the rails, initially designed for fox body race cars to stiffen up the body because apparently they suffered with a bit of flex , hope this is helpful 🙏
This is the exact way I'm planning on ordering my Mach 1. So nice to see an actual Velocity Blue and not a FJG Mach and non hp
fjg is really nice, which is what i have one thing for sure i dont like the stripes on the side. ill be removing it soon
@@draco2xx Im not saying it isnt nice, just tired of every review being the FJG...like literally every single review is the FJG
@@Wantedx9 yea it is, mach 1 with the fjg is the primary image of the mach 1. if its not that color, you wont kno its a mach 1. i get what youre saying
So, I have Steeda's X-pipe. I really don't know a lot about the gains... BUT... The sound is absolutely without a doubt my favorite change to my '22 Mach 1!!! THE BURBLES!!!!! For instance... easy acceleration in 3rd (man pedal) about half throttle up to 35ish mph and roll out of the throttle and those burbles sound off. With just the addition of an x-pipe (everything is drivetrain is completely stock) this is the best sounding V8 I have ever owned. It was a waste to purchase the BO sound system because the music from that active exhaust in track mode is one the the best parts of this vehicle!!!!!
I agree these cars IMO sound perfect from the factory. One of the main reasons I left my exhaust stock downstream of my twin turbos. Eventually Id like to add electronic cutouts just so I have little to no back pressure but otherwise absolutely perfect as a daily
On my 2020 csgt I went through to exhaust setups a custom one with xpipe from a local shop and then a borla atak catback and that thing sounded amazing.. but my new 2022 mach1 with this adaptive exhaust sounds ridiculous stock. Thinking bout an xpipe and just a axel back setup. Idk though. It sounds perfect in track mode.
To be honest the change in resonator delete is kind of minimal but i promise for the price you wont be disappointed. It adds a bit to the overall sound without droning or other negatives plus you save some weight down low.
Install jacking rails if they are available for the Mach 1, Steeda probably has them. Then you can lift anywhere along the rails on each side!
I’m thinking of poutine an X pipe on my 2019 Mustang .And you make it easy with your very informative video thank you very much
I'm a little skeptical on that torque increase. I mean, those guys are selling their H-pipe, so I'm not convinced that it's accurate. Seems like too much torque gain for such a basic modification.
I see what you mean. But the way it tapers off seems to make sense. It is also possible that maybe on their first pull they rolled into the throttle. I believe older generations came with an h pipe stock. I wonder why ford got away from it
@@truckandroll989 Yeah, back in the Foxbody days, the most popular exhaust mod was Flowmasters with an off-road H-pipe. Those cars sounded great like that.
Thats a beautiful car. I called our dealer about the 2023 Mach 1. I want one
Sounds so much better it’s ridiculous!
Honestly the muffler setup from the factory is glorious. Check out my latest video of me racing my wife and the camera from inside her car when shes chasing me sounds fantastic. I used to not like how the 5.0s sounded but as long as you dont make them too loud I think they are Ok.
Great information, simple and clear, way to communicate. Thanks, definitive I am buying it.
What I want to know is how to replace the headlight bulb because there is no opening or nothing so I guess you have to buy the whole headlight assy when one goes out how dumb is that? Maybe you can advise us new owners. Thanks
I just added the xpipe on my GT 2022 I love both sounds from the H and the X
Great video mate! Would love to hear the pops and bangs if you get a chance to include in a future update. Cheers!
To be honest it doesnt pop and bang that much. Now with the turbos I get a little bit if I do a pull, let off, and the wastegates dump. All and all a pretty tame exhaust. Older i get the more I want to be seen more but heard less
Very cool. I also added a Roush Hpipe to my Mach 1. Great Sound! 👍
You need the Steeda low profile full length jacking rails. Will salve all those issues for jacking.
I now have a 4 post lift so we are all good!
@@truckandroll989 nice.
Awesome video great job lot of torque gain for under 200 bucks
I deleted my resonator and did custom pipes and i took airflow restriction out cold air intake to gain back my 10hp loss on my 2022 mach 1 10 speed auto.
I think you should do a POV drive with the h-pipe for your next video 😎
If you could do a POV video and give your thoughts on interior noise levels from stock. Thanks
Althouth, I didn't drive his to see if it had more pull ( due to more torgue)
Looking at 2022 Mach 1 and new color combos. BUT - 470hp versus 480hp in the 2021. A valid reason not to order and buy a ‘22??
Yea im sure they are saying it is for emissions but I bet when they release the S650 Mustang it will have 480hp in the GT. That way they can say it is a 30hp bump (GT gets derated to 450hp for 2022). I wouldn’t let it deter you. Youll never notice 10hp in the seat of your pants
@@truckandroll989 Agree all the way around. Appreciate your perspective and your excellent videos. One other burning question….handling package or no handling package?? I don’t intend to drive much (maybe ever?) on a track….I want the best performance, but I’ll be mostly around town and on the wide open roads of rocky mtn west. (As an aside, I took delivery of a ‘21 F-150 Powerboost last month. What a machine!!)
@@John-xd2xj if you arent going to track it Id forgeo the handling package UNLESS you intend to take it to alot of car shows and the $3500 is worth the wow factor when people see the spoiler, wheels, and splitter.
@@truckandroll989 Roger that. Good validation of what I was thinking. Thanks again.
The spoiler can be bought for 575. The splitter is gonna be a nightmare on the street and parking. I actually find the non handling package rims nicer
Thank you for showing us
Where are the Active Exhaust Valve Modules located? Just wondered you can upgrade exhaust and keep the factory Active Exaust?
They are back at the mufflers in the rear of the car. So you could do long tubes, mid pipes, even upstream cutouts, etc. and still retain functionality. The beauty of the resonator delete is its not obnoxious but gives you a meaner sound so you dont have to constsntly drive around in Track mode if you wanted to hear it growl
Great Videos! Thank you so much. How does the Mach 1 compare to your ZL1 in terms of feel, driving fun and overall satisfaction? You really seem to enjoy your Mach 1. I always thought the the ZL1 is in another League!? Way better, faster and more fun to drive. What do you think? Would really be interested in your opinion…. kind of like buying advice if you‘re not decided between the two. Thanks again!
Two very different cars. Biggest selling point for ZL1 is torque everywhere anytime. Beyond that maybe also superior steering feel but Mach is better on track, more comfortable, more modern feel inside. Its a car you could drive more often for sure
May I please get the part number of the exhaust tips of your car ? I would like to fit these on the GT. Much appreciated
Im not sure they are the stock Mach 1 tips.
@@truckandroll989What about your rear spoiler and mirror caps ? Is it a metallic black ? I would like the colour code for that and part number for the spoiler please 🙂
@@eremyjay sorry again they are just the stock items so in not sure
@@truckandroll989 all good they are what I want to fit on my GT. I’ll find a Mach 1 vin number at some point and ring parts
As someone who's ran x-pipes on my German car, I thought I made the hard decision to go with the H-pipe on my Mach 1.....and then I came across the double H pipe. And now, I'm going t to spend $640.
do the mach 1 come with a 1 pc or 2 pc drive shaft?
They are 1 piece
The steeda is more money because it has a higher grade stainless steel 304 versus 409
Instal some jacking rails, Steeda sells them?
bro, h pipes ALL the way. my full custom header back system is built this way for that reason.
Beautiful car good sir. Thanks for the video. How much do you think it would be to have shop install an H pipe? Would the performance gains apply to a standard GT too? Cheers!
Yea performance should be the same on any 2018+ GT. X pipe is where you will really see solid gains across the rpm range. Id expect a shop to charge 2hrs labor. So under $250
Sounds great with and without resonator! I can't choose!
Microphone doesnt do it justice. No resonator is the ticket
sounds much better
Are all the h pipes the same ? I’m really thinking of buying this exact h pipe but there’s also the Roush h pipe for $250.
Yea I wouldnt overspend on something like this. Theres no magic for this part at this level. Pretty much a resonator delete x or h pipe is the same as the next. Now, if one is stainless vs steel or aluminized steel or wtv you could decide if that matters to you. Otherwise save your money and get the cheap one
A $150 mild steel pipe will rust and ruin the stock pipes not worth it.
@marktarascio4766 it has been a minute since installed but I believe it was either a low grade stainless or aluminized steel. Either way it should last for a while. It definitely wasn’t plain uncoated mild steel.
@@truckandroll989 OK wait for the rust
@@marktarascio4766 to be clear I checked
The manufacturer specs. H pipe is 409 SS
u need some jacking rails bud, wish i had em when i installed my xpipe
Ive got a 4 post lift now 😁
@@truckandroll989 sweet, makes things alot easier
That's the one I have on my 19 pp2
interior drone no extra charge
@@excelerater it honestly doesn’t drone at all, especially with the stock mufflers
@@truckandroll989 MIne did so I ended up dumping that
with a ARH LTS and full exhaust
I HATE attracting cops and tickets! So anything that makes the car not quiet I do not want.
sweet video. Would the same hold true for the GT?? Especially, since both the GT and Mach 1 have TONS of HP already, I'd love to have more torque. HP sells cars, torque wins races. hahaha! Thanks!
Yea since its seemingly adding low end torque it should apply to any variation of the 5.0
Does installing these mods void your warranty?
A resonator delete doesnt have any affect on the cars warranty
Get the SEEDA jacking rails installed !!! Way easier and safer to jack up your Mustang !
Lol I will do you one better - garage now features a four post lift :)
Longtubes e85 tune
Lol gimme about 6mo and you will see a Hellion twin kit
@@truckandroll989 savage
Tons of tq
Very Cool!
You’re not gaining 40tq with an H pipe any where in the power band. Sorry it’s not possible. More like 5. Also I don’t know if you’re aware but the specific unique sound Ford gave the Mach1 stems from the resonator.
Watch this video. The dyno doesnt lie. You pick up a bunch of torque below peak torque in the rpm range
ua-cam.com/video/gBALthay1c8/v-deo.html
@@truckandroll989 dyno the car yourself. stock vs H. I promise you you're not picking up 40lbs of tq.
@@TheCdM1981 they key is “where” in the rpm range. Im not stating it makes 40ft lb more of peak torque but its gaining around 40 ft lb lower in the rpm range due to the exhaust change. Steeda has done the dyno for us. The facts are there. It picks up torque lower in the torque range.
@@truckandroll989 you’re not making 40lbs of tq anywhere in the power band with any sort of resonator delete. Lol. What facts. From Steeda trying to sell an H pipe. Lol. Stop
@@TheCdM1981 Lol so your thought process is they are just 100% lying and fabricating dyno
Numbers to sell $200 mid pipes?
Nice upgrade , sounds sweet!
When you delete the resonator is there any droning at highway speeds?
Nope no droning on the highway. Its only loud on a cold start where the idle is high. After that it quiets down. Has a bit more of a muscle car tone at WOT especially in track mode
@@truckandroll989 Cold start with stock trim is loud until it warms, so the H-pipe didn't change that.
@@douglasborden3938 except its loud(er) lol. Im not saying h pipe effected the high idle at start but rather it just amplifies the noise without a resonator. I typically set it to start in quiet mode and then flip modes to sport or track once im out of the neighborhood
Stock sounds better
Sound is subjective for sure. Check out some of my newer videos with the twin turbos installed. Ill be dropping a video this weekend after installing cutouts with the turbo system too.
"Tons of torque"??? My experience yielded unnoticeable amount of torque. Clickbait?
The claim comes from Steedas testing on their chassis dyno. Check out their video if you are skeptical of the claims
@@truckandroll989 just know what I feel and measure.
If factory power isn't enough maybe the 500 GT would of been the better option.
Lol yea for about $40k more and no manual transmission.
And the 10 spd is faster so why bother woth the manual?
@@cameronsund5477 Manual is 100x more fun....I have an automatic daily driver with paddle shifters and its no where close to the fun of a manual car. If you want to be bored quick while cruzing buy an automatic car.
Stock is better...
The twin turbos it has now sound a bit better I would argue ;)
Man I'm sorry - I don't notice anything different - you look like you comb your hair with firecrackers - come on ...