My experience was that my previous HDMI cables(for previous version Apple TV and 4K TV) had audio/video stuttering problems with the new Apple TV 4K and same 4K TV. Unwatchable, very irritating. Bought the Belkin HDMI 2.1 cables, problem went away.
This is the answer I have been looking for, not if the card or TV can do HDR 4K @ 60Hz, both very capable, but if this cable can provide the throughput bandwidth for HDR 4K @ 60Hz. I have been through so many cables claiming this or that, yet fail to offer the stated bandwidth. I even tried Club3D DP to HDMI with slight improvement but just could not get HDR @ 60Hz, I could get 30Hz yes, even though they claimed HDR @ 60Hz. Thank you!
I always liked belkin products, I think they are one of the few companies that still take pride in their products and manufacture them with quality and durability built in.
Well, if any currently TV cannot support hdmi 2.1, why my Samsung Q6FN shows ActiveSync 2 in info and it works??? Is that possible to move it via amp Pioneer vsx-832? Grats for this task
My 2015 JU7100 has the one connect mini so maybe that can be upgraded??? I doubt the TV internals could handle it though. It did receive the update for HDR BUT its not really capable of the light output needed (max is 400 nits) or the wide color gamut for HDR so I just turn that off on my PS4 Pro and XboxS.
So my ps4 pro has black screen issues with the Samsung UE55MU7000 series. If I watched it correctly this cable will not help fixing this issue because the ps4pro and the tv don't have a 2.1 port. So I wouldn't get the 48Gbps? And I know that 18Gbps is not enough for 2160p hdr rgb. Then the screen will black out frequently. But when the ps4 sets it back to Yuv422 (or 420) it shouldn't happen anymore right? Or does yuv420 exceeds the 18Gbps?
@@robwilliamson6181 good deal. 2.0 to 2.0 will always look better than 2.1 to 2.0. what I mean is... The bottleneck is the 2.0 adapter, so no point in a 2.1 cable unless your HDMI port is 2.1 as well
Many high-end smart phones can record slow/fast motion videos 120fps 4k. You can steam from your high end iPhones wirelessly at high frame rates to Apple 4K TV HDR/Dolby Vision to 120 Hz or 240 Hz 4k TV with HDMI 2.1 cable connection.
You should do a video on the HDMI 2.1 cable's ability to have a variable refresh rate. I want to know if it will replace monitors with built in g-sync or free-sync. Is it better worse or the same?
Great Video! Loving the new style and look, feels new age but still very tech grounded. Only thing i notice is this video was probably 20 minutes prior to editing. lol Also, welcome Cody. Good to see that there will be a lot more Gamer focused info to go along with the awesome style of your videos.!
Hey thank you Spawn! I decided earlier this year to invest in this channel. I will continue investing and improving things so we can hopefully deliver valuable content. Cody has been working quietly behind the scenes this year, but he will start to take on a more visible role in PC gaming research. We really appreciate the feedback -- both the good and the bad.
Looking at upgrading to this cable as I’m still experiencing flashes of static (drop outs) on my xbox one x when everything is maxed 4k@60fps with 12 big colour on rgb with a standard hdmi 2.0 supposed to be rated to max 18gbps
I purchased a 4K HDR TV as a primary monitor. My PC can handle games at 4K( max settings= 50-70fps). My doubts : 1. Why are the TV manufactures not mentioning the HDMI port version that's built in? 2. I want a chroma subsampling 4:2:2, so which one does the job? HDMI 2.0 or 2.1 ? 3. A trust worthy HDMI cable brand trading in India? Any help is appreciated.
No update on DV yet. I'll let you guys know as soon as it drops. How do you like the Roku? My Roku has been collecting dust lately (apart from testing).
I was going to get a new tv probably the LG C8 but I think I will wait also, I just got an OPPO203 will it do 2.1 or should I get another kind of Bluray player. Great videos and info.
an hdmi cable can in no way change the amount of frames a gpu is rendering it can change the delivered frames but most times it will just flash black in and out if it cant handle the refresh rate. is your fps counter showing on the pc rendered frames or in it in the tv showing delivered frames? Ps. i myself have an sony 830c overclocked to 120hz at 1080p when gaming and 4k 60 for desktop use
Hi I have the lg oled c7 which I have my Xbox one x connected to and a lg sound bar sj9 connected through arc which supports Dolby atoms. Will this new Cable help with syncing the Xbox video and the sound bar audio when playing Dolby atmos audio ??
Thanks man, that was very informative. Since you have this cool rig there, plug it in your Sony TV and in the LG OLED and make game comparisons, showing how good (or bad) PC gaming is on those TVs. :D
Good idea! We will be doing more PC gaming + TV videos. Especially now that TV's could be a physical bottleneck in performance apart from simple input lag.
When i have the X.B.O.X set to 10bit color depth using high speed HDMI, the video cuts out sometimes. Using 8bit works with no problems. Would using this HDMI 2.1 solve this problem? I have LG oled.
No, using HDMI 2.1 wont get rid of what seems to be a firmware issue. Either you XBOX or Tv is the culprit, but i'm betting of the TV. It might need a new firmware update to allow for the spectrum of colors the XBOX is outputting. IF you have another 10bit device i would attempt to test it.
modernwize I found that switching the ultra hd deep color on the oled off than back on brings the picture back, but still isn't a long term fix. Not sure if the hdmi is the problem or the tv.
Just upgraded from a Sony 34 inch XBR910 CRT to a 49 inch Sony X900E. Sweet upgrade, but still using the standard PS4 to play games on it. Have to say, they are looking pretty good. Anyone have an opinion about the viability of upgrading to the PS4 Pro? The standard PS4 supports HDR, and that is half the battle right there. How much more does the Pro actually offer?
Hi There! I have purchased this Belkin HDMI 2.1 cable and I would like to know if I will have an improvement in HDR images and everything related to image quality in general. I state that I have a LG G6 OLED SIGNATURE. I know that it is already a very good TV player, but I hope to have even clearer images and even brighter colors. What do you think about it? Please let me know. Thanks in advance for the reply. Best regards, Diego.
When you say "cheap cable" are you referring to a cable of the same tech specs ? or are you referring to an older HDMI standard cable like 2.0 or 1.4 ?
It's about time! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about and understands. I was wrecking my brain telling people this cord is a gimmick at the moment. Even bought one to prove my point. Awesome video! U have a new subscriber.
The Oppo UDP 203 and 205 are using the older HDMI 2.0 spec; They do not support HDMI 2.1 and are not firmware upgradeable. Oppo will need to release a new player to support the new HDMI 2.1 spec. Currently there are no Blu-Rays that support the new variable framerates or 8k content. If I were to be shortsighted, I'd say frame rate, color space and bitrate may improve in the near term.
For those that already have 4k HDR TV’s would the HDMI 2.1 cable help remove screen tearing or is that a separate issue? I’ve got the Strix GTX 1080ti OC and TCL 55P605 4k HDR TV.
modernwize I have a i7 6700k 4.5 OC, 32gb Ram with the Strix GTX 1080ti. I’m currently using a PG279Q as well. You can upscale it to 4k in Windows but 27” is just too small for me. I’m not so interested in 200hz. I’m more for Ultra Settings and the best fps I can get at 1440p or above. I don’t want to run 200hz on medium settings. I would rather have 4k, 80fps with ultra settings. Currently unavailable with the 1080ti. Lol. Playing Ghost Recon Wildlands.
i5 4690 - MSI gaming 980 Ti - MSI gaming H97 board 16Gig gskill sniper ram........ graphics card have hdmi 2.0 outputs,, Tv is a Sony 55 XE7005, at the moment im using 4K YCbCr 4:4:4 8bit on 60hz for desktop and games
Samsung external box is a good idea tbh. Pioneer was one of the first to go that way with the Kuros. Would be an excellent idea for them to release a new box that's HDMI 2.1 compatible.
Hi guys, could anyone explain to me why my 2.0b HDMI cable has started to fail on all my standard 4K inputs (I have a xe930e) but works on my HDMI ARC port? I bought a replacement HDMI cable and it works on all 3 main 4K inputs for HDR and the ARC port like the other cable used to. Not knowing why is really pissing me off! Is it just a faulty cable? If so why does it still work on one specific connection when another cable works on all? If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated!
modernwize I do and the other works with both HDMI 2 and ARC. I’ve never come across anything like this. I’m going to assume it’s the cable but from a tech standpoint I can’t figure it out and it’s frustrating as hell. I’ve ordered a 2.1 Belkin after watching your review. Had issues with many cables especially with the ks8000. The damn thing is not comparable with Sony devices and the cables all failed within 2 to 3 months (think it’s the one connect box frying them). Sony X93e seems to handle content much better I must admit. Hopefully the extra bandwidth will cure any lingering kinks with media that runs at the full 17.8
Should I trust any HDMI 2.0 cables like Monsters or Rocketfish HDMI cables from big retail stores ? ( Best Buy and staple) I just recently bought the monster ultra HD platinum HDMI cable that support 22.5Gbps and I’m not sure I’ve been scammed or not . Help please.
Edit: is there an exact model number for this cable? About 20 "high speed belkin" cables come up when I search on Amazon. You should put a link to the cable on Amazon, so you can make some money off this.
So serious question. Not very intelligent with this stuff. You say Xbox x will support when update comes out but TVs are not capable yet, so looking at the lg 60uj7700 it says specs for HDMI are 2.2 (HDcp). Does that mean it will support with and update or is that something completely different??
Thank you for the great video review as usual .. I am about to buy lg oled c7 .. do you recommend me to go for it or wait for oled 2018 .. is the c7 a future proof please advise me ?
I would wait if you can. The C7 is one of the most future proof TV's of 2017, but you will be in a VERY good position to make your decision if you can just hold off for 3 more weeks. Then I'll know which TVs are coming out in 2018 and we can see where we stand with discounted current gen TVs.
I don’t think you can ever future proof they are always looking for the next thing. I just got the LG OLED E7 myself and I got it for a good price in the Black Friday deals. It’s a great tv and great gaming.It’s ok waiting until jan see what they going to bring but then you will have to pay full price. Not gonna by a tv just because it has a 2.1 port. Think TVs will take a good few years for the 2.1 technology make a difference if any in my eyes.
snatcher989 I have the c6 and think it's worth every penny. I play all current gen consoles and my pc with 1080ti in 4k. I say get it now that you can get it at a discount.
Great video,nice explained,,2020 and im still struggling with hdmi cables to manage getting enhanced 4k format on my sony x950g to my pc,,so far i have bought 3-4 different hdmi 2.0 ''certified'' cables but when click on enhanced format on tv i have always black screen,,i just need 3840x2160 @60hz with chroma 4:4:4 ycbcr.as i can tell so far ,,how the hell those hdmi 2.0 cables gets certified label and then cant work properly ?suppose they are 18gbps but many ppl saying that only 10gbps are their actual speed.anyway....im going for this 2.1 belkin and finally solve this annoying thing with black screen .now im at 3840x2160 @60hz on ycbcr 4:2:0,,its not all that bad,but whay i cant get what tv has to offer?so belkin and fingers crossed!!!
Okay thank you for the "FACTS" on HDMi 2.1! Now, I feel more confident about getting a new tv soon. Just have to decide on which one I want.... Sony 930e, LGC7, Sony 900e or somehow, some magical way a Qled 8FN :-)
Hi Joe/Cody, Goal is 4K at the highest possible FPS, but very happy with 2K as well, more than happy... on the TV and ridiculous 4K movies, through the PC... again on to said tv... OLED is what I have my eyes on. Either the LG or Sony A1... The PC, that I have has the strix 1080. (ASUS)... Will I get good FPS? Also, how come the GPU that I have is a top graphics card...’ish... yet doesn’t have the 2.1? Is that going to always bottleneck performances? The absence of the 2.1? What will be my peak FPS... And the other problem... what if I’m HDMI’ing it all via a Yamaha amp... to then get atmos... and the benefits of my speakers... ugh... thanks...
The new 2018 LG sk9000 65" I bought a week ago has the new firmware capability for 2.1 check it out. I'm excited, I've seen the cable at Best Buy!! I will go get them assp.
it doesn't matter what people want in their tv. If you don't have the hardware in your pc to push 4k at 100 plus frames it really doesn't matter how many hz the tv can reach. Not even the top nvidia cards (i have a 1080 Ti) have the power to achieve those frames in 4k, unless you are playing games that don't demand any heavy graphics, like mincraft. On top of that, in such a big tv in 4k you will definitely notice the screen tearing unless your tv comes with G-sync (and you have a nvidia card) or freesync (and you have an amd card)
Yeah man. I bought an ultrawide g-sync monitor for my custome pc and got the lg b7 during the thanksgiving sale after almost getting the sony x930 e. After seeing a bunch of recommendations, especially from your channel I decided to go for the oled! I love your vids and intros so keep it up!
o man I haven't even watched anything full HDR and we are loving it so much that we are thinking about getting the 55" during the holidays to substitute the vizio we have in the bedroom... the vizio is only 3 years old but the oled difference is just too much
Javier pereira rodriguez I got the The "OLED LG C7" 55 inch about 2 months ago and it is FANTASTIC and GREAT for general TV viewing and for playing long hours of Call of Duty World War 2. Have a great day.
i would expect 2018 TVs be released with HDMI 2.1 sooner ... Product is development is usually (and always) parallel to Standards development, Manufacturers try to release products as soon as Standards (e.g., HDMI 2.1) are released. simple example is Belkin cable ...
I'm guessing the cable is easiest component in the 4k120 chain. I would imagine that the HDMI Forum has a 4k120 / 8k60 sandbox environment in their paid testing program. The hard part is testing for the elements that don't exist. Sony has been using 2015 SOC's in their 2017 flagship TV's, but I don't think they had a choice. Technically, we could remove the boards from our TVs and make DIY 4k120 monitors if we could find the right hardware. The panels are ready, but the internals don't seem to be available. Dell recently tried to make a 4k 120 monitor and pulled it due to quality issues.
Great video,very interesting.just got a b7 oled so iam good for a few years yet..vrr sounds great but how many TVs will support it that's the question.
A lot of manufacturers don't have anywhere else to go with their TV tech. Since this is here and now, they would be foolish to not support it as soon as possible to stay competitive. But that's just me looking at it from a business perspective.
Im using the Asus PG27UQ 4K 144HZ Monitor with Gaming PC and 2 watercooled 1080ti's Frames averaging from 80-144 over Display Port I will buy 2 of these cables one for the Xbox One X and one for the 4K apple Tv
I have the same problem, but in my cases I'm almost buying the LG B7 :( But if I wait for the newest models with HDMI 2.1 realistically I only will be able to get one by the end of 2018 without give one of my kidneys in the process. Not sure if I want to wait that much, still thinking.. at least good to know that it will be impossible to get the benefits of the HDMI 2.1 via firmware update, that was one of my doubts before watch the video.
So these new Tvs should drastically drop the big 75 in 2017 in March. I really am not a big gamer. Just a casual 15 mins a day. Will I notice it during the football game. Hockey, ext. movies. I mean. If I can get a 2017 for cheep because 2018s are going to be a gamer TV. But my 75 inch turns into a 55. Because of cost. I would be pissed!
very informative video, I bought the belkin 2.1 cables just to make sure but I now realize I spent that money for nothing lol, also @modernwize, theres a deal on x930e and lg c7s right now... I'm really torn between the 2 and I want to know what you think if I plan to play steam games with my pc on the TV
I went for the x930e after all, OLED seems very interesting, but I'm too much of an idiot and can't risk the burn-in, I know I'd slip up eventually... lol thanks for the response and all your great videos, I'll keep watching for new models in 2018 (very interested in the big nvidia monitor/tv)
modernwize need to test more, but as of now, im a satisfied customer! It doesnt beat my benq 144hz 1ms monitor but it still feels a lot better than I thought it would
Just got my Belkin Ultra HD High Speed HDMI cable that says 8K on the box and compared it to my older Belkin Ultra High Speed Cable that says 4K & Dolby Vision on the box The obvious difference I found is in Xbox One X Video settings the 8K cable gave a bright glow around the fonts while the 4K cable was obviously dimmer...I thot both cables were same with bandwidth up to 48Gbps
My experience was that my previous HDMI cables(for previous version Apple TV and 4K TV) had audio/video stuttering problems with the new Apple TV 4K and same 4K TV. Unwatchable, very irritating. Bought the Belkin HDMI 2.1 cables, problem went away.
This is the answer I have been looking for, not if the card or TV can do HDR 4K @ 60Hz, both very capable, but if this cable can provide the throughput bandwidth for HDR 4K @ 60Hz. I have been through so many cables claiming this or that, yet fail to offer the stated bandwidth. I even tried Club3D DP to HDMI with slight improvement but just could not get HDR @ 60Hz, I could get 30Hz yes, even though they claimed HDR @ 60Hz. Thank you!
I always liked belkin products, I think they are one of the few companies that still take pride in their products and manufacture them with quality and durability built in.
Here's a little more clarity for anyone passing through the comments.
(EXAMPLE)
-- TV/Display --
60hz (hertz)
True
It's possibile 144hz in 1080p with hdmi 2.1?
So what about 2.1 HDMI cord with LG C9 or b9 oled that has 2.1 HDMI ports and an Xbox One X or PS4 pro would you tell a difference
Great video man!!
Techno Dad thanks for the kind words
Well, if any currently TV cannot support hdmi 2.1, why my Samsung Q6FN shows ActiveSync 2 in info and it works??? Is that possible to move it via amp Pioneer vsx-832? Grats for this task
My 2015 JU7100 has the one connect mini so maybe that can be upgraded??? I doubt the TV internals could handle it though. It did receive the update for HDR BUT its not really capable of the light output needed (max is 400 nits) or the wide color gamut for HDR so I just turn that off on my PS4 Pro and XboxS.
So my ps4 pro has black screen issues with the Samsung UE55MU7000 series. If I watched it correctly this cable will not help fixing this issue because the ps4pro and the tv don't have a 2.1 port. So I wouldn't get the 48Gbps?
And I know that 18Gbps is not enough for 2160p hdr rgb. Then the screen will black out frequently. But when the ps4 sets it back to Yuv422 (or 420) it shouldn't happen anymore right? Or does yuv420 exceeds the 18Gbps?
Marty just get yourself another $2 hdmi
It solved my problem
@@odaialazzam8012 did you have the red flashing too? im about to send my freaking Samsung mu7009 back because of the blackouts and red flashing
Since you have a 1080 can you push 4k 60 with hdr 10 bit 444 to the TV? If yes can you try 12 bit 444?
Probably the most "brave", honest and serious analyse about 2.1hdmi cables i ever saw. Congratulations guys!!!
I have a Samsung 4k HDR 60Hz tv, is this 2.1 HDMI cable for me ?
Diego Cobain no, stick to your high speed HDMI 2.o cable
@@TOisONit the 2.0 HDMI high speed cable looked better on my X than the 2.1 cable
@@robwilliamson6181 good deal. 2.0 to 2.0 will always look better than 2.1 to 2.0. what I mean is... The bottleneck is the 2.0 adapter, so no point in a 2.1 cable unless your HDMI port is 2.1 as well
@@TOisONit Yep thats true. The HDMI 2.0 showed more colour than the HDMI 2.1 so its not worth the upgrade just yet
What... no Amazon link?
Does the Belkin cable curve easily (at 90 degrees) at the connector? because I have a very limited spacing of about 2 centimeter
no it doesnt
Many high-end smart phones can record slow/fast motion videos 120fps 4k. You can steam from your high end iPhones wirelessly at high frame rates to Apple 4K TV HDR/Dolby Vision to 120 Hz or 240 Hz 4k TV with HDMI 2.1 cable connection.
Xi Le like the iPhone 7 perhaps
Product link?
You should do a video on the HDMI 2.1 cable's ability to have a variable refresh rate. I want to know if it will replace monitors with built in g-sync or free-sync. Is it better worse or the same?
J Robling we are planning our tests for this
Awesome, it will be the first video out there. SUB!
Great Video! Loving the new style and look, feels new age but still very tech grounded. Only thing i notice is this video was probably 20 minutes prior to editing. lol
Also, welcome Cody. Good to see that there will be a lot more Gamer focused info to go along with the awesome style of your videos.!
Hey thank you Spawn! I decided earlier this year to invest in this channel. I will continue investing and improving things so we can hopefully deliver valuable content. Cody has been working quietly behind the scenes this year, but he will start to take on a more visible role in PC gaming research. We really appreciate the feedback -- both the good and the bad.
Is hdmi 2.1 splitter available?
Looking at upgrading to this cable as I’m still experiencing flashes of static (drop outs) on my xbox one x when everything is maxed 4k@60fps with 12 big colour on rgb with a standard hdmi 2.0 supposed to be rated to max 18gbps
I jointed the family. Great video dude :)
How about 2.2 hdmi cables
Can't wait for your next info update about my favorite things hdmi 2.1 here we go 2019
I purchased a 4K HDR TV as a primary monitor. My PC can handle games at 4K( max settings= 50-70fps).
My doubts :
1. Why are the TV manufactures not mentioning the HDMI port version that's built in?
2. I want a chroma subsampling 4:2:2, so which one does the job? HDMI 2.0 or 2.1 ?
3. A trust worthy HDMI cable brand trading in India?
Any help is appreciated.
Happy Holidays!!! Any idea on the Dolby Vision update for Sony x930E ? I have Xbox One X , PS4 Pro . Roku premier , Sony Uhd blue ray . Sony soundbar
No update on DV yet. I'll let you guys know as soon as it drops. How do you like the Roku? My Roku has been collecting dust lately (apart from testing).
I like it . Might get Apple TV
I'm loving the Apple TV 4k -- except for the remote. I keep dropping it.
Do this cable do better performance on a Samsung Q90R with ps4 pro?
Because hdmi port 4 have 2.1 functions.
Nice video btw
I was going to get a new tv probably the LG C8 but I think I will wait also, I just got an OPPO203 will it do 2.1 or should I get another kind of Bluray player. Great videos and info.
What do you mean by firmware update?????
Why is this one promoted soo heavy? their is no other brands doing 2.1 cables?
not yet
Belkin is the very first one
When you did this test there were no 2.1 devices....have you tested recently with an rtx 30 series card?
Can this cable do 144hz @ 1920x1080 ?
won't see any 2.1 displays until 2019, the HDMI [testing and certification spec] won't be finalized until Q2 2018.
My Xbox one x has VRR ON AND my 2019 lg oled E9 with hdmi 2.1, will this cable take advantage of that?
an hdmi cable can in no way change the amount of frames a gpu is rendering it can change the delivered frames but most times it will just flash black in and out if it cant handle the refresh rate. is your fps counter showing on the pc rendered frames or in it in the tv showing delivered frames?
Ps. i myself have an sony 830c overclocked to 120hz at 1080p when gaming and 4k 60 for desktop use
Hi I have the lg oled c7 which I have my Xbox one x connected to and a lg sound bar sj9 connected through arc which supports Dolby atoms. Will this new Cable help with syncing the Xbox video and the sound bar audio when playing Dolby atmos audio ??
Not likely. Although, some people have reported that a cable did help. We think it's a firmware issue.
@modernwize .. excellent video, great details and clear explanation for us viewers and subscriber's👍🏾👍🏾 .. keep up the great work 👍🏾👍🏾😁😁
Thanks man, that was very informative. Since you have this cool rig there, plug it in your Sony TV and in the LG OLED and make game comparisons, showing how good (or bad) PC gaming is on those TVs. :D
Good idea! We will be doing more PC gaming + TV videos. Especially now that TV's could be a physical bottleneck in performance apart from simple input lag.
I’d like to see this, too. Love your side-by-side comparison videos.
awesome! can't wait.
When i have the X.B.O.X set to 10bit color depth using high speed HDMI, the video cuts out sometimes. Using 8bit works with no problems. Would using this HDMI 2.1 solve this problem?
I have LG oled.
No, using HDMI 2.1 wont get rid of what seems to be a firmware issue. Either you XBOX or Tv is the culprit, but i'm betting of the TV. It might need a new firmware update to allow for the spectrum of colors the XBOX is outputting. IF you have another 10bit device i would attempt to test it.
You could try the cable and see if it helps. Either way, you'll know the cable is not the problem since it's the best on the market right now.
modernwize I found that switching the ultra hd deep color on the oled off than back on brings the picture back, but still isn't a long term fix. Not sure if the hdmi is the problem or the tv.
are you having to do that every time you turn on the XBOX?
are you having to do that every time you turn on the XBOX?
Just upgraded from a Sony 34 inch XBR910 CRT to a 49 inch Sony X900E. Sweet upgrade, but still using the standard PS4 to play games on it. Have to say, they are looking pretty good. Anyone have an opinion about the viability of upgrading to the PS4 Pro? The standard PS4 supports HDR, and that is half the battle right there. How much more does the Pro actually offer?
Hi There!
I have purchased this Belkin HDMI 2.1 cable and I would like to know if I will have an improvement in HDR images and everything related to image quality in general.
I state that I have a LG G6 OLED SIGNATURE. I know that it is already a very good TV player, but I hope to have even clearer images and even brighter colors.
What do you think about it?
Please let me know.
Thanks in advance for the reply.
Best regards,
Diego.
1000cv once the firmware update hits the x I’m sure we will for now at least for me it makes it brighter and nicer I believe hits in May or November
Cant they update the 2017 tv models to make them support hdmi2.1? Isn't that posable?
no it wont happen. 2019 tvs should have 2.1
RenoJackson I'm not so sure it's within a firmware update
Hi Modernwize, witch the HDMI 2.1 Cable the PS4 PRO can go HDR witch RGB colors? I know that today the limit color on HDR is YUH422.
If you want to future proof your cable -- get ultra high speed hdmi only.
Lucas Jacon no, ps4 pro is hdmi 2.0. 4k, hdr and rgb is not possible. it has to fall back to 422
I have 6 of these BUT I need a 9 foot version if this (receiver to TV) and they ONLY make a 3m version.
When you say "cheap cable" are you referring to a cable of the same tech specs ? or are you referring to an older HDMI standard cable like 2.0 or 1.4 ?
Generic 1.4 and 2.0. We tested all versions.
It's about time! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about and understands. I was wrecking my brain telling people this cord is a gimmick at the moment. Even bought one to prove my point. Awesome video! U have a new subscriber.
I bought a 48 gbps fiber optic Monster Inc platinum UHD hdmi cable from Walmart. Is it a 2.1 cable then?
yes
can that cable use on ps4 slim
So what does this technology mean for blue ray players like the oppo 203 when higher frame rate 4k content comes out, and even 8k content?
The Oppo UDP 203 and 205 are using the older HDMI 2.0 spec; They do not support HDMI 2.1 and are not firmware upgradeable. Oppo will need to release a new player to support the new HDMI 2.1 spec. Currently there are no Blu-Rays that support the new variable framerates or 8k content. If I were to be shortsighted, I'd say frame rate, color space and bitrate may improve in the near term.
Oh man, glad I didn't waste money on a new 4k player, I'll wait a bit longer. Blu-ray s still look good enough.
Doesn't the TV also need to support HDMI 2.1> The 930E HDMI ports are 2.0 i believe?
DJ L yes - we were just having fun seeing if it did anything
For those that already have 4k HDR TV’s would the HDMI 2.1 cable help remove screen tearing or is that a separate issue? I’ve got the Strix GTX 1080ti OC and TCL 55P605 4k HDR TV.
And should I return the TV or just hold on to it and wait for late 2018?
Steven Marshall 2.1 wont solve it alone. you would need a 2018 tv with g-sync or freesync.
Thanks. Might return the TV. Plan to get a PG35VQ anyways. Just love playing on a big screen.
do you have an Nvidia GPU with G-Sync? The resolution on that ROG is interesting. 200hz at it's max supported resolution 3440 x 1440. That is NICE.
modernwize I have a i7 6700k 4.5 OC, 32gb Ram with the Strix GTX 1080ti. I’m currently using a PG279Q as well. You can upscale it to 4k in Windows but 27” is just too small for me. I’m not so interested in 200hz. I’m more for Ultra Settings and the best fps I can get at 1440p or above. I don’t want to run 200hz on medium settings. I would rather have 4k, 80fps with ultra settings. Currently unavailable with the 1080ti. Lol. Playing Ghost Recon Wildlands.
is it now possible with this cable to go on PC with 4K YCbCr 4:4:4 10 or 12b ? instead of 8b with the 18gbps cables ?
You will need a new motherboard with an HDMI 2.1 port. They haven't launched yet. The cable can support it though.
allright, already ordered this belkin cable and will look if there are some differences to my 20buck premium 18gbps cable
What rig do you have?
i5 4690 - MSI gaming 980 Ti - MSI gaming H97 board 16Gig gskill sniper ram........ graphics card have hdmi 2.0 outputs,, Tv is a Sony 55 XE7005, at the moment im using 4K YCbCr 4:4:4 8bit on 60hz for desktop and games
Can this new cable go on your PC with 4K YCbCr 4:4:4 10 bits...eager to know
Samsung external box is a good idea tbh. Pioneer was one of the first to go that way with the Kuros. Would be an excellent idea for them to release a new box that's HDMI 2.1 compatible.
Hi guys, could anyone explain to me why my 2.0b HDMI cable has started to fail on all my standard 4K inputs (I have a xe930e) but works on my HDMI ARC port? I bought a replacement HDMI cable and it works on all 3 main 4K inputs for HDR and the ARC port like the other cable used to. Not knowing why is really pissing me off! Is it just a faulty cable? If so why does it still work on one specific connection when another cable works on all? If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated!
do you have another cable to test?
modernwize I do and the other works with both HDMI 2 and ARC. I’ve never come across anything like this. I’m going to assume it’s the cable but from a tech standpoint I can’t figure it out and it’s frustrating as hell.
I’ve ordered a 2.1 Belkin after watching your review. Had issues with many cables especially with the ks8000. The damn thing is not comparable with Sony devices and the cables all failed within 2 to 3 months (think it’s the one connect box frying them). Sony X93e seems to handle content much better I must admit. Hopefully the extra bandwidth will cure any lingering kinks with media that runs at the full 17.8
Should I trust any HDMI 2.0 cables like Monsters or Rocketfish HDMI cables from big retail stores ? ( Best Buy and staple) I just recently bought the monster ultra HD platinum HDMI cable that support 22.5Gbps and I’m not sure I’ve been scammed or not . Help please.
Shawnee C any updates
Edit: is there an exact model number for this cable? About 20 "high speed belkin" cables come up when I search on Amazon.
You should put a link to the cable on Amazon, so you can make some money off this.
Amazon doesn't sell it. You can buy it at the Apple store. apple.co/2CuN1OJ
dammm its 4:48am here in virginia and my phone vibrated when he posted this. i said "i have to see this video zzzzZZzz"
Yarlin la voz sensual Ha ha ha.👍
Hdmi 2.0 can not support 4k RGB HDR because 18Gbps is not enough. Is the Ultra High Speed Cable changed?
So serious question. Not very intelligent with this stuff. You say Xbox x will support when update comes out but TVs are not capable yet, so looking at the lg 60uj7700 it says specs for HDMI are 2.2 (HDcp). Does that mean it will support with and update or is that something completely different??
Does this benifit in online games ps4 pro
I want to know if that belkin cable works on my sony TV 4k , and if works on ps3 ???
Please respond
Stefan X yes it can be used on both.
@@modernwize Thank you very much I will buy it
@@modernwize and i don't really need an apple tv no?
Does the PS4 have a 2.1
Thank you for the great video review as usual ..
I am about to buy lg oled c7 .. do you recommend me to go for it or wait for oled 2018 .. is the c7 a future proof please advise me ?
I would wait if you can. The C7 is one of the most future proof TV's of 2017, but you will be in a VERY good position to make your decision if you can just hold off for 3 more weeks. Then I'll know which TVs are coming out in 2018 and we can see where we stand with discounted current gen TVs.
I don’t think you can ever future proof they are always looking for the next thing. I just got the LG OLED E7 myself and I got it for a good price in the Black Friday deals. It’s a great tv and great gaming.It’s ok waiting until jan see what they going to bring but then you will have to pay full price. Not gonna by a tv just because it has a 2.1 port. Think TVs will take a good few years for the 2.1 technology make a difference if any in my eyes.
snatcher989 I have the c6 and think it's worth every penny. I play all current gen consoles and my pc with 1080ti in 4k. I say get it now that you can get it at a discount.
Yea but i have a LG E7 and doesn't the C7 and the E7 OLED's supposedly support 2.2 or something like that?
jason geddie no mate it don’t pointless getting the lead if the tv don’t support the cable and the device.
VRR will also work with HDMI 2.0 cables.
I think up to 60fps 4k
For 120fps 4k hdmi 2.0 does not have enough bandwidth
Not that many devices/games will be able to push 120fps 4k :D
What about the input lag?
4k 144hz monitors are out now
Very insightful. On a side question: What’s the music playing during the video?
Great video,nice explained,,2020 and im still struggling with hdmi cables to manage getting enhanced 4k format on my sony x950g to my pc,,so far i have bought 3-4 different hdmi 2.0 ''certified'' cables but when click on enhanced format on tv i have always black screen,,i just need 3840x2160 @60hz with chroma 4:4:4 ycbcr.as i can tell so far ,,how the hell those hdmi 2.0 cables gets certified label and then cant work properly ?suppose they are 18gbps but many ppl saying that only 10gbps are their actual speed.anyway....im going for this 2.1 belkin and finally solve this annoying thing with black screen .now im at 3840x2160 @60hz on ycbcr 4:2:0,,its not all that bad,but whay i cant get what tv has to offer?so belkin and fingers crossed!!!
If the Xbox One X is 2.1 would that mean that the cable that come with the Xbox One x 2.1
I'm getting memory of my first PC I build back in 2003 or 2004.
(when ATA cables was a big thing)
I still have the memory from my PC builds back in 2003/2004. I was trying to build a machine that could play Far Cry lol
modernwize (ddr 266) my may be still operational? Lol
Why are you not on UA-cam anymore? You were brilliant.
Great soundtrack. Where is it from? what is the musictrack called?
Does it help your FPS to get a hdmi 2.1 cord even though the port on my monitor is hdmi 2.0?
Late reply, but no
Happy New Year! 🎊
Happy february xd 2021
Okay thank you for the "FACTS" on HDMi 2.1! Now, I feel more confident about getting a new tv soon. Just have to decide on which one I want.... Sony 930e, LGC7, Sony 900e or somehow, some magical way a Qled 8FN :-)
My denon 760h 2.1 2021 fails the belkin tests on all my belkins
Hi Joe/Cody,
Goal is 4K at the highest possible FPS, but very happy with 2K as well, more than happy... on the TV and ridiculous 4K movies, through the PC... again on to said tv...
OLED is what I have my eyes on. Either the LG or Sony A1...
The PC, that I have has the strix 1080. (ASUS)...
Will I get good FPS?
Also, how come the GPU that I have is a top graphics card...’ish... yet doesn’t have the 2.1? Is that going to always bottleneck performances? The absence of the 2.1? What will be my peak FPS...
And the other problem... what if I’m HDMI’ing it all via a Yamaha amp... to then get atmos... and the benefits of my speakers... ugh... thanks...
Vale a pena HDMI 2.1 para ps4 pro?
can you make a review of LGSK9500?
Not work in arc no sound came out I test w sony tv
The new 2018 LG sk9000 65" I bought a week ago has the new firmware capability for 2.1 check it out. I'm excited, I've seen the cable at Best Buy!! I will go get them assp.
it doesn't matter what people want in their tv. If you don't have the hardware in your pc to push 4k at 100 plus frames it really doesn't matter how many hz the tv can reach. Not even the top nvidia cards (i have a 1080 Ti) have the power to achieve those frames in 4k, unless you are playing games that don't demand any heavy graphics, like mincraft. On top of that, in such a big tv in 4k you will definitely notice the screen tearing unless your tv comes with G-sync (and you have a nvidia card) or freesync (and you have an amd card)
Good points. Screen tearing drives us nuts. I can def see it.
Yeah man. I bought an ultrawide g-sync monitor for my custome pc and got the lg b7 during the thanksgiving sale after almost getting the sony x930 e. After seeing a bunch of recommendations, especially from your channel I decided to go for the oled! I love your vids and intros so keep it up!
Javier pereira rodriguez how are you liking the oled?
o man I haven't even watched anything full HDR and we are loving it so much that we are thinking about getting the 55" during the holidays to substitute the vizio we have in the bedroom... the vizio is only 3 years old but the oled difference is just too much
Javier pereira rodriguez I got the The "OLED LG C7" 55 inch about 2 months ago and it is FANTASTIC and GREAT for general TV viewing and for playing long hours of Call of Duty World War 2.
Have a great day.
I'm gonna hook it up to my xbox one x and 2016 lg oled. Probably wont do much but im hoping for less input lag anyway.
mrzazzaable you’ll notice it to be brighter
Nice video. Have tested new tvs 2020 or 2019
What a great video! I have that lead with my Apple TV 4K!
i would expect 2018 TVs be released with HDMI 2.1 sooner ... Product is development is usually (and always) parallel to Standards development, Manufacturers try to release products as soon as Standards (e.g., HDMI 2.1) are released. simple example is Belkin cable ...
I'm guessing the cable is easiest component in the 4k120 chain. I would imagine that the HDMI Forum has a 4k120 / 8k60 sandbox environment in their paid testing program. The hard part is testing for the elements that don't exist. Sony has been using 2015 SOC's in their 2017 flagship TV's, but I don't think they had a choice. Technically, we could remove the boards from our TVs and make DIY 4k120 monitors if we could find the right hardware. The panels are ready, but the internals don't seem to be available. Dell recently tried to make a 4k 120 monitor and pulled it due to quality issues.
I have a lg that’s 4k as well as a belkin cable it works for me makes it brighter and smooth
How Belkin 2.1 cable vs. Echogear 2.1 cable
Great video,very interesting.just got a b7 oled so iam good for a few years yet..vrr sounds great but how many TVs will support it that's the question.
A lot of manufacturers don't have anywhere else to go with their TV tech. Since this is here and now, they would be foolish to not support it as soon as possible to stay competitive. But that's just me looking at it from a business perspective.
modernwize yep makes sense.I can't see them releasing 8k any time soon.
want ask ... LCD have HDMI 2.1? I know better than me
great content im worried about the price of 2.1 displays ill be sticking with 4k 60hz for a while gpus have alot of catching up to do
Pricing will be all over the place in 2018. I'm excited though!
modernwize definitely exciting times ahead
I already have a belkin
Thanks!, excellent detailed video, too bad did not work with 2017 tv models.
Thanks! I know...hoping to find a way around it somehow.
Im using the Asus PG27UQ 4K 144HZ Monitor with Gaming PC and 2 watercooled 1080ti's Frames averaging from 80-144 over Display Port I will buy 2 of these cables one for the Xbox One X and one for the 4K apple Tv
Should I buy the sony 930e still or wait for 2018 tvs?
I would definitely wait. 100%
I have the same problem, but in my cases I'm almost buying the LG B7 :( But if I wait for the newest models with HDMI 2.1 realistically I only will be able to get one by the end of 2018 without give one of my kidneys in the process. Not sure if I want to wait that much, still thinking.. at least good to know that it will be impossible to get the benefits of the HDMI 2.1 via firmware update, that was one of my doubts before watch the video.
So these new Tvs should drastically drop the big 75 in 2017 in March. I really am not a big gamer. Just a casual 15 mins a day. Will I notice it during the football game. Hockey, ext. movies. I mean. If I can get a 2017 for cheep because 2018s are going to be a gamer TV. But my 75 inch turns into a 55. Because of cost. I would be pissed!
I'm expecting motion to be improved. That would be huge for sports. We will know in 2 weeks what's coming in 2018.
keep us posted please
where can i purchase this cable?
Max C Apple Store or Belkin website only.
Amazon
This cable made the spectrum app on my xbox one x way better for some reason....compared regular high speed cable
Technology is awesome. And a pain in the ass.
Does it support HDR
yes it does
very informative video, I bought the belkin 2.1 cables just to make sure but I now realize I spent that money for nothing lol, also @modernwize, theres a deal on x930e and lg c7s right now... I'm really torn between the 2 and I want to know what you think if I plan to play steam games with my pc on the TV
which games do you play?
modernwize league, street fighter mostly competitive games, I know the input lag is better on the oled but the burn in scares me
I went for the x930e after all, OLED seems very interesting, but I'm too much of an idiot and can't risk the burn-in, I know I'd slip up eventually... lol thanks for the response and all your great videos, I'll keep watching for new models in 2018 (very interested in the big nvidia monitor/tv)
how are you liking the X930E so far? We use it as a computer monitor :)
modernwize need to test more, but as of now, im a satisfied customer! It doesnt beat my benq 144hz 1ms monitor but it still feels a lot better than I thought it would
Samsung no longer is going to do evolution kits for 2016 tv’s. So no new one connects is what they told me.
I'd love to try my machine with 4k 120hz. 2 Titan XPs SLI at 2.1ghz watercooled.
Just got my Belkin Ultra HD High Speed HDMI cable that says 8K on the box and compared it to my older Belkin Ultra High Speed Cable that says 4K & Dolby Vision on the box
The obvious difference I found is in Xbox One X Video settings the 8K cable gave a bright glow around the fonts while the 4K cable was obviously dimmer...I thot both cables were same with bandwidth up to 48Gbps