Appreciate the explanation of nuance in terms of note density compared to shifts in touch and feel, cold attacks etc. Cuz as someone who only recently started really understanding drums, I definitely didn't pick up on a lot of what makes this book challenging.
Coats 15 is also a perfect example of that seemingly simple book that is stupid difficult. One thing I’ve picked up in my musical career, the stuff that looks easy is difficult, the stuff that looks difficult is probably a bit less hard.
The hand speed and velocity adjustment challenges seem like a really consistent feature of Tom's writing style- along with his funky tuplet phrasing, color changes, and cross-stick grooves- and the exercise program really supports and emphasizes those skills. Roger and staff are GREAT at teaching the "contrasting differences" stuff too, with those abrupt dynamic shifts mid-roll. I love seeing how the exercise program reinforces the skills that they call for in the book. I feel like, in general, we're seeing a return of strong, discrete stylistic identities between the top groups- Bluecoats, BAC, BD, Cavaliers all seem to have "their thing"- and it's really great to see that kind of diversity in both arrangement and performance! This is a SUPER exciting season!!!!
There's something about their snare technique that I love, but I can't really describe it. I could be wrong, but they seem to embrace natural weight of the wrist and sticks more than pushing for high velocity while also letting the sticks resonate a lot more than other groups. Anyway, I love it this year and definitely see this drumline as having more potential than last year to push the standard. I wish the tenors were featured more though.
Ditto to all the analyses. I have to say the Bass Line is so solid, love the arrangement. Can't complain about the use of flams in this book. Oh, one last thing, being a Tama drum kit owner since the 90's, it's pronounced like Yamaha, it's "TAH-Mah"
I was able to make the show in Little Rock and again in Broken Arrow. I do love the sound of these bass drums. They are groovy and reminiscent of old school fiber skin, a sound I love. I was disappointed that the Bluecoats battery was constantly hidden behind yard trash in the drill. They seemed non-existent to me, popping in out every now and then and literally disappearing for extended times. I was very impressed with the Cavies, Cadets, and Crusaders in no particular order. Overall, Boston's show was my favorite. I was able to catch the Cadets snares in sectional so I guess they made the biggest impression on me. Clean as a whistle. Crusaders seemed to have some meaty stuff. Cavies were just plain fun to watch. I liked that scratchy lick they threw in.
random question, but have you guys ever thought about reacting to collegiate drumlines? I am on MSU's drumlinbe right now and we have a lot of people that have marched cavs, bluecoats, scouts etc.
It might be the mounting holes on the drum got drilled like .25/.5” too low? It seems consistent across the line which makes me think it was manufacturing vs an aesthetic choice
Is it just me or does the snare tuning make the tics super exposed? On the field with the low quality vids that have been posted it really seems like a wet fuzzy sound. But if they clean it that all goes away. The pit is phenomenal for this early, they're smooth operators.
I personally dont think they will compete with Devs and Boston. Sure the nuance of the book is cool but it is just not on par with Boston or Devs book. We shall see in the end. RIP Vangaurd
At the very least, their drumline won't hold them back too much. Their FE might also do just enough to get them close to another Sanford. If not they still won't be too far behind in perc.
Appreciate the explanation of nuance in terms of note density compared to shifts in touch and feel, cold attacks etc. Cuz as someone who only recently started really understanding drums, I definitely didn't pick up on a lot of what makes this book challenging.
Coats 15 is also a perfect example of that seemingly simple book that is stupid difficult.
One thing I’ve picked up in my musical career, the stuff that looks easy is difficult, the stuff that looks difficult is probably a bit less hard.
The hand speed and velocity adjustment challenges seem like a really consistent feature of Tom's writing style- along with his funky tuplet phrasing, color changes, and cross-stick grooves- and the exercise program really supports and emphasizes those skills. Roger and staff are GREAT at teaching the "contrasting differences" stuff too, with those abrupt dynamic shifts mid-roll. I love seeing how the exercise program reinforces the skills that they call for in the book. I feel like, in general, we're seeing a return of strong, discrete stylistic identities between the top groups- Bluecoats, BAC, BD, Cavaliers all seem to have "their thing"- and it's really great to see that kind of diversity in both arrangement and performance! This is a SUPER exciting season!!!!
Blue coats, Boston Crusaders,and Blue Devils all have extremely impressive drum lines this year
i feel like cadets are gonna do some crazy things this year too ngl
@@fjones2202 I agree, cadets are not to be discounted at all
Said this before Cavies starting destroying everyone lol
@@CollinWestland This line got ridiculously good thanks to a good staffing decision this year. Love their feature.
10:36 you forgot to mention mandarins. They can't stop improving every year
So proud to have marched my rookie year with Dave from the snareline!!!!!
miss you man!
@@davelundgreen5354 wow, saw some of your posts on ig years back, you're an inspiration man! have a great season
There's something about their snare technique that I love, but I can't really describe it. I could be wrong, but they seem to embrace natural weight of the wrist and sticks more than pushing for high velocity while also letting the sticks resonate a lot more than other groups. Anyway, I love it this year and definitely see this drumline as having more potential than last year to push the standard. I wish the tenors were featured more though.
Like a disciplined Moeller. They’re so relaxed
@@PANTHERPISS69moeller is sort of a strong word to describe the technique overall, they lead their strokes from the bead of the stick most of the time
Ditto to all the analyses. I have to say the Bass Line is so solid, love the arrangement. Can't complain about the use of flams in this book. Oh, one last thing, being a Tama drum kit owner since the 90's, it's pronounced like Yamaha, it's "TAH-Mah"
I wish I could see these guys in person, I hope to march with them someday!!!
I was able to make the show in Little Rock and again in Broken Arrow. I do love the sound of these bass drums. They are groovy and reminiscent of old school fiber skin, a sound I love. I was disappointed that the Bluecoats battery was constantly hidden behind yard trash in the drill. They seemed non-existent to me, popping in out every now and then and literally disappearing for extended times. I was very impressed with the Cavies, Cadets, and Crusaders in no particular order. Overall, Boston's show was my favorite. I was able to catch the Cadets snares in sectional so I guess they made the biggest impression on me. Clean as a whistle. Crusaders seemed to have some meaty stuff. Cavies were just plain fun to watch. I liked that scratchy lick they threw in.
The blonde center marimba was at SCV last year.
Bass 3 was at Mandarins last year.
I don’t think she’s center, that’s still Nikolai, but also she was in bloo in ‘21
There are 3 kids from ‘22 SCV in BlooPit this year. Emma (blonde marimba, Luke on vibes, and Tim on synth. (My son aged out of SCV pit last year)
Really like the snare sound and tuning
I was waiting for this reaction
Algorithm! Thanks for the vids guys! If you want a reaction across the spectrum of dci this year, we’ve got some early Colt Cadets lot videos posted!
random question, but have you guys ever thought about reacting to collegiate drumlines? I am on MSU's drumlinbe right now and we have a lot of people that have marched cavs, bluecoats, scouts etc.
Msu is so good
did the 2022 center quad go to BD?
Yea, he did.
@@agedoutpodcast ah gotcha, thanks!
That phrase at 6:35 was insane
U right it’s “taa muh”
I feel like this quad line is gonna be the cleanest BC quad line we’ve seen since 2015
The 6" spock seems to be mounted lower than the 8" spock. Any thoughts as to why? Never seen that before.
It might be the mounting holes on the drum got drilled like .25/.5” too low? It seems consistent across the line which makes me think it was manufacturing vs an aesthetic choice
Did the Tama basses have the same cut as the Yamaha basses? Snares and quads sounded good, bass seemed quiet. What was the live experience?
I didn’t notice a drop off live in person. The quads sound a little thin to me, less resonant. Could’ve been the tuning that day though. - Evan
for the algorithm 😤
Evan's pronunciation of Tama is correct; but this is America, you can pronounce it however you please!
Is it just me or do the Tama basses feel notably more dead and muffled than the clarity of the Yamahas last year?
🫶🏾for the algorithm
Is it just me or does the snare tuning make the tics super exposed? On the field with the low quality vids that have been posted it really seems like a wet fuzzy sound. But if they clean it that all goes away. The pit is phenomenal for this early, they're smooth operators.
Mandarins and PC ?
Tama pronunciation as it was taught to me by a Tama rep: "Tah-Muh" not "Tam-Uh"
If it was "Tam-Uh" then you would pronounce Yamaha as "Yam-Uh-Hah" 😉
Mullet bro 😎
It’s pronounced Tama
I’ve always said tah-mah now tam-muh
So tasty.
I personally dont think they will compete with Devs and Boston. Sure the nuance of the book is cool but it is just not on par with Boston or Devs book. We shall see in the end. RIP Vangaurd
At the very least, their drumline won't hold them back too much. Their FE might also do just enough to get them close to another Sanford. If not they still won't be too far behind in perc.
Please tell me these are not their uniforms?
Those aren’t the actual uniforms. They have those on overtop to keep them clean.
@@agedoutpodcast oh thank god!!!!!🥲I think I was about to cry lol