The World's Longest Serving Military Cartridge
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The title alone made me guess 7.62x54r
The only other option was .303 British.
Same
@Methods Is a 1911 a cartridge? No.
@@Chris_Garman no, but .45 acp is... still it falls just a tad bit short having been adopted in 1911, whereas x54r was adopted pre 1900
@@Chris_Garman wrong. has everyone forgot about the .22lr ???? its been in use since 1884 so 5 years before the 7.64 x 54r. And has been employed in specialist weapons for covert ops as well as being used as a simple military trainer rifles for numerous countries to this day .
Allow me to quote one of my favorite video game please :
"Developed before WWI, mass produced during WWII, very popular among snipers from WWIII..."
Which game?
@@ruthlessrubberducky5729 The Metro game franchise. When you go to any salesman in the game this is how they describe 7,62X54R
@Garrison Nichols 7.62x54r The topic of the video.
If I'm not mistaken being a rimmed cartridge isn't really a disadvantage in belt-fed weapons which is where this cartridge is used most of the time.
It's still suboptimal in belts compared to rimless. Rimless allows disintegrating link belts that you just push the bullet right through directly into the chamber, but rimmed requires you to pull it rearward out of the belt first (a system which has had problems with inertia causing less well designed cartridges to have bullets pulled right out of the neck). It still works, as seen in the PKM and variants/successors, but that is more a testament to the design of 54mmR than the design of pull-push belt feds.
@@Reniconix Rimmed ammo has cons too. Overall result depends on specific sample (hello M60). As it was already said, if you are able to design a good gun for existing cartridge, you don't need to change it.
Now, non disintegrating belts arent great, but then again, the PKM weighs only around 17 pounds, so I'd be willing to try out a PKM for a month instead of an M240L
This cartridge would have died long ago if it wasn't for the PKM. That gun is the real reason they still crank out these rounds. If you have guns chambered in this round, thank the PKM for being the only reason they still make ammo for you to shoot-- its not the PSL or Dragonov. There are better alternatives in use with better cartridges. It continues because of this belt-fed, general-purpose machine gun that dominates the battlefield, around the world, to this day.
@@kingwiththeax6880 Well PK is in service in russian army since 1961 and SVD since 1963 till now (in a form of PKM/PKT/Pecheneg and SVDS). We just can design guns that last 60 years and still strong, yep.
Buy it,
Make it cheap
And stack it deep.
Poetry to my ears😂
I LIKE IT!
LOVE IT!
PurposelyPernicious that's what I did with 762x54R when it was cheap!
Listen guys, it's "R" for "Rimmed", not "Russian"
Yes, I know.
I've been trying to tell people for years the "R" in "USSR" stands for "Rimmed," but no one believes me. 😂
Can't possibly stand for "Republic" because there was nothing republic about it. Rimmed, though, most of the countries that fell to the Soviets were on the rim of Russia...
For the love of God, nobody be gullible enough to think I'm being serious.
@@chadhaire1711 Then why are you here?
@@chadhaire1711 I enjoy the videos. You must have lots of friends.
Amy M it’s not a pirate 🏴☠️ thing arrrrrr
old school iv8888 style video! the new content is great but videos like this are what made me love this channel years ago.
54r was the first centerfire cartridge I bought in bulk some 20+ years ago when I was 18.... Still remember smelling that 440rnd can of surplus for the first time, good stuff.
I'd love to see more videos like this on an older cartridges history. How it came about, how its changed and adapted over time to stay relevant. Stuff like that.
@Deadnotsleeping I know them well and may or may not have watched that video at least twice
Do you know about The Forgotten Weapons channel? Now that's bonafide gun pornography.
I have headstamp F.A.12,05 fmj.30cal
As a Mosin lover, i love this video in these boring times.
Mosins are garbage, Mauser gang
The mosin is pretty alright, you've been validated by K11/K31 gang
@@FirstnameLastname-do1px Mosins work well, are strudy, will not break and have a malfunction. What's not to like ? Also, Mauser gang ? That old ass 8mm bullet is not used nowdays, people know why. But Mosins ? you have watched the vid, didn't you. It's a bullet that can be shared with your buddies on the field.
Mosins are awesome, Mausers are awesome, G11/K11/K31 are awesome, as indeed are our younger friends chambered in 7.62x51. Get them all to avoid having to take sides in such disputes.
@@FirstnameLastname-do1px
The Finn M39 was a great shooting mosin. I have spanked guys that had K98s with a B barrel Valmet M39 in vintage rifle matches.....
But yeah, mosins must suck, huh.
That was a great video very informative thank you very much for producing
That was VERY enjoyable and refreshing to watch. I personally love the 54R and Mosins so this episode was a treat. Thank you! and God Bless!
Original corrosive primers used fulminate of mercury. Non corrosive primers started with lead staphnite ( I hope I spelled it right) compounds. Modern lead-free primers are made with proprietary compounds by different manufacturers. I would continue to treat them also as corrosive with respect to cleaning after use.
With bolt guns, the quickest way to kill residual salt residue is to stick the end of the end of the barrel into a bucket of hot soapy water, use a jag tip with a snug fitting patch, and pump water in and out of the bore several times, and follow with bore cleaner like Hoppe's #9.
I am a pending grad of SDI, i have watched your videos before enrolling, and during my classes. You have helped me tremendously and you don't even know it. Thank You! You are one of the reasons why I enrolled.
I love my Mosin rifles. I love the cartridge. It’s a great deer round.
Oh snap I just saw Tim from MAC!
Great video! Thank you for the steady flow of content during the corona layoff of 2020
Got some 203 grain softpoints that flip whitetails. Love this round.
My Type 53 carbine is loaded with Brown Bear 203 soft points as we speak.
Thanks Eric. Would love to see more like this. Be safe dude.
I'm just happy for any content that's not some random gun review I'll never buy.
I love 54r! This stuff rocks! Hoping you go over the modern day platforms for this cartridge.
I've been Reloading 54R for years. Surplus may be cheap, but it's not good for hunting, not very accurate, and it's corrosive.
Fun cartridge.
As soon as I read that 7.62 X 54R not reloadable, just had to try, even if I didn't own one. Hydro decapper, copper sleeve to press smaller large rifle Boxer primer into, drill primer pocket to accept Boxer primer.....good fun. The necks on the steel cases would split...
The reason I bought my Mosin-Nagant several years ago was from watching your Channel. Now it has mighty fine trigger on it after watching one of your videos. I think it's a good rifle mine is a 1934 model.
I knew exactly what it was before I even clicked on the video.... love my “garbage rod” Mosin! Hooah!
The Polish M44 is a beautiful example of the Mosin.
I love that AR15A2 on the wall. I just built one a few months ago. It's a replica of the one I carried in the Marines. I even have the correct sling with the j-buckle. The M7 bayonet is next.
When two people come together and work together you can accomplish great things. Like this cartridge and the mosin. Two iconic pieces of history and that’s still in use today.
I love my PSL in x54r. Hopefully I can find a Vepr in .308.
God I love those. My dads got one.
I'm waiting on a maker like cmmg make a AR platform in 54r
@@jimmieburleigh9549 that'd be sweet! I'd buy one for sure.
Jimmie Burleigh I know! Why hasn't any manufacture make one?
So .303 British? No mention despite 100+ years service and still in use!
My uncle has my american grandpas WWII mosin nagant chambered in 54r and it is our prized possession it has a cracked, rough stock and worn the be h*ll
He fought in the battle of the bulge as far as I know and he was one h*ll of a man
Carpenter, soldier, wwII vet, very good cook, and best grandpa ever
If you grandpa was an American why did he fight with mosin and m1?
John Doe I don’t blame you who doesn’t want a Iraqi AK
EK I don’t know we took it to a professional gun smith and they said it was a mosin
EK and I’m pretty sure it was what they had left so that’s what he got
@@user-dt9qe8wo6u he probably brought it back as a souvenir. He should had fought with m1
TLDR: Surplus is a hell of a drug.
Eric: what are some of the things that might be a con about this cartridge?
Me: ITS RIMMED!!!
(I yell in my house alone like im watching Blue's Clues)
tborr 50cal a clue, a clue!!
tborr 50cal most but not all is corrosive?
tborr 50cal What's up my 50 cal brother?? 😊
In 54r's case "cheap" really means "I just mentioned on the internet I had a neighborly dispute with that guy that has friends in the U.S. and some bored guy in Moscow must have overreacted because next morning I found an Antonov load's of ammo cases sitting on my lawn"
I have messed some deer up with that Winchester 180 SP out of my mosins I hunt with pretty much all of my Milsurps I’ve hunted with my 91/30, m39, M1 Garand and soon my k98 and k31
you need a lithgow smle
pweter351 I have an Enfield already
I wish I had 10% of the knowledge these 2 guys have on weapons and ammo, I can watch 1000 videos and read books but I learn more from seeing,touching and doing
I saw a Mosin converted to 45-70 at a gun show. The guy said it was the natural conversion because it was especially designed for a rimmed cartridge. A 45-70 in a strong bolt action with the pressures it can withstand is a formidable cartridge.
Love the history of ammunition concept. Hope to see more!
It would make a good series.
@@416loren much agreed
Because you inspired me to want one, I wanted to tell you, I actually found a Mosin at a gun shop here in Syracuse, NY, for $400. My son is buying it when his tax refund hits tomorrow, and I'm giving him half, until I convince him to let me buy him out. Super excited to finally own a Mosin!
The .303 British started in 1888. I read the last Indian unit gave up this cartridge last year. Its almost impossible to find high quality ammo for the .303 even though so many guns and systems has been chambered for it.
Pretty much have to buy it online.
So heavily used by all the Commonwealth nations that most of the surplus ammo is long gone. Its still very popular in Canada and available.
My favorite round is the Hornady sst 150 grain it shoots 1 to 2 MOA groups out of my 23' barreled VEPR.
That moment you realize you're so poor you can't afford a surplus Mosin anymore because their price has more than tripled (even quintupled) ever since games like DayZ and channels like this made the rifle a pop culture item.
Just like the kar98 the price will continue to go up as the number of the certain models in the market dry up and like most service rifles a matching bayonet will double the value of the gun
Its not popular culture. Its the Russian importation ban.
Awesome. My favorite caliber of all time.
It's easier to control headspace on a rimmed cartridge.
A full-rifle cartridge is mostly used in belt-fed machine guns or lower capacity marksman magazine fed and bolt action rifles anyhow, somewhat negating the specific need for a centerfire rimless case. Also the large rim and strong taper are extra conducive to belt feeding. So, arguably, it is better than a modern rimless cartridge given its size and application.
Back in the day, I bought 700 rounds of Czech silver tip for $125. Blew through that pretty quick.
The 54r is one of my favorite cartridges to reload for. I started reloading and casting for that cartridge when I bought my first Mosin over ten years ago and although I have a good supply of good quality steel case ammo I stashed back when it was around ten cents per rd. I enjoy casting and shooting 160 to 215 gr, cast bullets.
That was very interesting did not know about the primers being so different thank you for sharing your knowledge
You should do a history of the 30.06 Springfield cartridge, it's been used in a wide range of rolls and taken big game on every continent. From its namesake rifle the 1903 Springfield bolt action of WW1 to the M1 Garand of WW2, both with service records outliving their original deployments. And I'm pretty sure Teddy Roosevelt would argue that the 06 Rifle and its 30.06 cartridge was the greatest rifle ever made. And if the big game hunting, adventuring, war hero, Teddy Roosevelt said that, I'm inclined to trust his better judgement. God bless America, RIP Teddy.
If you think that the M1903 and .30-06 come anywhere close to being the "greatest rifle ever made," then you must not have much experience with rifles of any sort. I'd rank the SMLE, FN FAL, KP-31, and AR15 far, far above the M1903 or the M1 Garand.
@@Schwarzvogel1 I didn't say I believed that at all, I said it was once called such by a historical figure who knew a thing or two about rifles (also he died before they invented the FAL, M16 and all those others), it's not like it's the only rifle that can say that, I think it was Gen MacArthur that said the M1Garand was the greatest rifle ever made. Obviously modern rifles have surpassed both, that's progress, I merely expressed why I like the '03 Rifle and it's 30.06 cartridge, as that is my opinion. Also I would argue that the '03 Springfield had a far larger influence on firearm design than many of the rifles you mentioned, plus consider how long it was in service,(still is in some parts of the 3rd world) the M16 and it's variants have no where near that length of sevice, so define "greatest rifle" it's just an opinion, there is no "greatest rifle" just your opinion of what "greatest" really means.
You forgot to mention the millions and millions of AK-47's that were produced and are still being used all over the world in combat to this day. @@Schwarzvogel1
I still have a little bit of 7N1 from when I had my SVD. Wish I never sold it. Long live the 54R!
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303 British in service since 1889 and still in use by the Indian government
I believe the Indians finally officially retired the 303 lee enfield this year.
I mean 7.5 Swiss probably the oldest still in service and sure the load and projectile was changed in 1911 but most countries did the same so technically fair game.
Honestly the Mosin-Nagant is an awesome weapon. There are literally dozens of options for chassis replacements, detachable magazines, scope mounts and scopes built just for it. This gun will crack your level 3 armor like concrete under a jackhammer... may take the AK to make most of the headway in combat... but that Mosin-Nagant when necessary will still be taking enemy combatants off the field and cracking open body armor like eggs.
The Dragunov PSL is an awesome weapon also... but that closed bolt sniper action is gonna hit harder no doubt.
i own a 1944 m39 mosin with the original ww2 stock on it. great rifle!
Can y’all PLEASE bring back where you try to “destroy “ a mosin...I LOVE THAT.
Thanks for marking vids like this. Takes my mind off of what’s going on.
Just watched your video on magazine shapes as part of my Firearms Technology class at SDI. This video will definitely fit into my ballistics class. Thanks. Keep it up.
Its rimmed for your pleasure. LOL
Mike Wethington lmao
Mike Wethington 😂👍🏻
For the extractor's pleasure, according to Carnik Kon.....
Logan Curl “extract my ribbed cartridge baby”
Watching this on my TV with my 91/30 hex hanging above it.
SouthPaw Armoury mine a safe queen. I still like to take out for some fresh air time to time.
Got two of those beauties. 1938 and 1939 Tula made yayaya M91/30. One is soaked in cosmoline. The other has been restocked with an Archangel stock. Original stock was in bad shape.
I have a Mosin Naggant so I have some. It's pretty powerful! It smacks steel hard!
I like the 8mm Round. 7.62x54r is nice as well. Some people load that projectile in a 7.62x39 case from my understanding
Great video! Reminds me of the videos you used to make that I liked much more. Hope you make some more like this maybe some more mosin nagant Vids or sks or ak47. The 3 great rifles! Thanks for a awesome video on 7.62x54r ammo! Stay safe 😷⚔
It’s very accurate round and I think it was used to win in the Olympics a couple times .........I love your vid 👍😎
I feel like 5.56 is like that, too, that we still use it because there's so much of it in use, and so many guns that use it.
To my understanding, 6.5mm Grendel is a far superior round to 5.56 as it's about the same price, but it hits harder and remains stable and supersonic even out to 1,000 yards while still hitting with about the same energy of a 9mm at 10 yards at such a long distance, and it has amazing accuracy with very little drop.
I've been thinking about buying a 6.5 Grendel upper, but like nations have done with the 7.62x54R, it seems like a better idea to stick with a cartridge that has availability. In a SHTF scenario, as much as I'd like to have 6.5 Grendel, 5.56 just makes more sense in America due to the availability of 5.56, .223, and if I use my CMMG .22LR conversion kit, I can even run .22LR out of my 5.56 barrel.
I imagine in countries where 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R are readily available, a similar thought exists. As long as you have either of those cartridges stocked, you can run virtually any firearm you find from old bolt gun to machine gun to DMR.
We also saw during the Kung Flu panic first time gun owners buying guns based on ammo still in stock, not based on anything else. What ammo you have determines what guns you'll shoot, after all.
That and it's not really superior enough to justify the cost of rechambering all the associated weapons systems.
So, in Iraq, the bad guys armed with $ 50 Moisin-Nagants were out ranging the M-4 by several hundred yards. Did the military re-issue M-14s, or use captured Moisins ? Of course not. They started the extensive, expensive quest for a follow-on successor to the M-4, which is gonna cost $$$.
Unfortunately, for the French, being first isn't always best. The French were the 1st to develop smokeless powder and they attempted to keep it a 'state secret' but that only lasted a couple years. They developed the 8mm Lebel cartridge from the black powder 11x59mmR Gras cartridge to use the new smokeless powder and adopted the new cartridge in 1886. Since it was the first smokeless powder rifle cartridge, developed using a oddly shaped black powder parent case, its design was totally obsolete within just a smattering of years of its introduction. The French did try to update the cartridge a few times over the years but the cartridge was a developmental dead end. The French were developing a new cartridge and rifle to replace the 8mm Lebel but World War 1 broke out and it was shelved. Within a few years of the advent of smokeless powder and the 8mm Lebel, other countries were onboard and working on the lessons learned from from the French cartridge. In 1891 Russia adopted the 7.62x54mmR. Captain (later Major General) Sergei Mosin, of the Tula Armory, developed the 7.62x54mmR, which used the black powder 8x52mmR Mannlicher as it's starting point, and it incorporated some of the lessons learned from the use of the 8mm Lebel, such as using only a slightly smaller diameter bullet than the parent case used with a straighter and slightly thicker case wall and a much increased pressure, all of which gave the cartridge a ballistic advantage over the 8mm Lebel and the .303 British (Enfield). The U.S. .30-06 Springfield rimless cartridge would come some 15 years later and its design and performance would be far superior to the rimmed cartridges.
I really wish I had got a m39 before the prices went crazy...love my svt-40 tho...never got any 91/30's but a nice m39 in shooter condition is on my list
I always love your educational videos. Thank you for taking the time to do this
The main reason is the balistic of 54R is pretty much the ideal for its weight class just like 51 NATO.
There are a lot of projects to develope better catridge but the products are simply not good enough to justify the replacement
Funny enough, 7.62x54r is still available during this ammo shortage. I go to gun shops often and still see boxes of it left untouched.
Here's a fun twist to it. If you differentiate between the round nose pattern bullets and the spitzer patterns, the 54R is no longer the longest serving cartridge. The Russians moved to the spitzer bullet in 1908, two years after we did with the 30.06. Here's the fun part, there is a section of the Danish military that not only still uses the 30.06 as their rifle cartridge, but they are issuing out our surplus M1917 Enfield rifles. Check out the Sirius dog sled patrol. They're deployed in the north of Greenland and still use the 1917 (and 10mm glocks) because they need it reliable in the arctic winter and enough power to drop polar bears.
Great video, thanks Erik. Appreciate it
7.62X54R's first war was the 1904/05 Russo/Japanese war. 116-15 years ago. The bullet changed after that from rounded to pointed as everybody was doing at that time.
Don't have one but have wished I had got one back in the day when they were so common and cheap.
PKM and PKT are the reason 7,62x54r is used so widely.
You missed the 189 grain, heavy ball, with the yellow tip. Bought a couple of spam cans when it was only $70 can. It's a really powerful round. Those cans were actually sealed with melted lead btw.
7.5x55 Swiss has been around since about the same time. It is still in use as well.
@@chadhaire1711 It doesnt matter the number of firearms in service when the title is longest military cartridge in service....
@@chadhaire1711 I love personal attacks. lol
IIRC, Winchester only recently started making 7.62x54R, like in the past 15 years or so, because of a vacuum in the market caused by super cheap soviet-bloc surplus drying up due to increasing import restrictions. Stuff used to cost 5 cents a round back in the early 2000s, now is almost 50 cents per round, or roughly the same cost as 7.62 NATO.
Thanks Eric, I really enjoyed this vid! Keep em coming! Fun for kiddos to watch and teach them history behind things. And since your channel is mostly kid friendly (language wise) I let them watch it with me!
The only problem i have with this cartridge is rimlock, but it is also the same problem i have with 303 brit. Still love both as a plinking/ hunting round.
If you have rim lock problems with a Lee Enfield the magazine is damaged or faulty. I've seen numerous videos demonstrating that rim lock doesn't affect feeding with a good magazine.
About corrosive primers:
Corrosive primers are not themselves corrosive. They explode into residue, which when it contacts water in the air, makes a salt, and that's what does the rusting.
Corrosive primers are used because they have two enormous advantages: They keep far better than non corrosive primers. They are more stable and last longer. They also can handle a range of temperatures better than non corrosive primers. This matters if much of your country is above the Arctic Circle. It's why Canada still issues its Mounty rangers with SMLE's using corrosive ammo.
All it takes to wash out the salts is just a quick bit of a water. If you're anxious, get it with a wet patch. Run a dampened piece of paper towel down and that's enough. There is no need for bore solvents.
I have never found any evidence that modern civilian production ammo for x25, x39, x54R is corrosive. I've used it for years. I've used Wolf, the Bears, Tula, Partizan, and more. I've on purpose left the guns uncleaned for weeks to months to prove the point. The primers are allocated by production line and are produced paralle line house. Military primers do not end up in civilian ammunition, and civilian primers do not end up in military ammunition.
Eric Great video and thanks, how about a video on 5.45 X 39 and the different bullet weights?
Wish I bought 2 more mosins back in the day, but I barely scraped together the $120 (including background check fee) to get mine. M44 from big 5 listed at $89 in 2008. I remember getting those red striped bulgarian rounds for $3.99 for 20 wrapped in brown paper, tied with brown string. So ghetto, so good...
My favorite rifle round is 30-06 Springfield 180 grain !!!!!!
One of my favorite things to say about this cartridge when I’m being a mosin fan boy
Hunter S Thompson?
has everyone forgot about the .22lr ???? its been in use since 1884 so 5 years before the 7.64 x 54r. And has been employed in specialist weapons for covert ops as well as being used as a simple military trainer rifles for numerous countries to this day .
Interesting vid; I literally knew nothing about 54R before this vid. I had no idea that it was so plentiful;)
That cartridge is the worlds longest serving and still used because it’s cheap to produce and most of the world lives in poverty.
Facts
If only company's put more effort into it and produced an ar10 chambered in this cartridge
@Nicholas Rodriguez it's about a third of the cost per round for surplus.
Its an excellent cartridge anyway
PAN MAN that was the case 10 years ago, when I bought a 91/30 and a 440rd spam can of surplus 54r all for under $200 out the door. Today however, 91/30s and the surplus ammo they fire is entirely too expensive to be viable. in my
Opinion of course, do what you wish with your $$.
Just one little mistake. Long Mosin rifle that had shown - not a dragoon. It is infantry model, also after 1905 modernisation (very early infantry M1891 had no upper wood stock palte).
The 7.62x54Rmm chambered Mosin-Nagant is an underrated rifle as it was much more reliable than the Mauser in the dust, mud and ice of Russia during WW2. Largely because of looser tolerances and the single-column magazine which is super easy to clean with a captive floorplate, spring and follower.
7.62x54r hands down. Been in service for over a hundred years now. An shows no sigh of stopping.
On the Russians in the Finnish war: "They conquered just enough land to bury their dead" ---- well said
After the continuation war: "Let's not poke the Bear again."
The numbers on the headstamp of surplus ammo indicates the factory and the last two numbers of the production year. Most Soviet satellite nations only had one main factory producing this ammo so each country has a unique code, but Russia had several factories churning this stuff out so there are several factory codes that correspond to Russian production.
Now I need a "so you shot corrosive ammo through your nice rifle so you better clean it. Here is how" video.
Last crate of 54R I opened had a handwritten note in it. Never have translated it.
Email me a pic of it.
I think a Remington Rolling Block or a single shot rifle chambered in 7.62x54r would be cool to have.
I forgot how much Eric is a Russian style/type fan. And Chad is the AR guy. Good Video. I love the dual philosophy approach.
Great history lesson!
Fascinating stuff. Shows that the Devil is in the details...
Many thanks.
Wh
Personally, I'd just assume fire modern commercial ammo from my mosin. Not that I have a problem with the surplus spam cans. I just think that the spam cans are better used in the role of stockpile for when things go "off the rails". Outside of that, just fire the commercial stuff and make your gun cleaning a heck of a lot easier.
23:06 - "They've always had the mentality of preparing for this huge great war that could be at their doorstep the next day." I can think of another country that has been doing that since the last huge great war ended, and rightly so.
.45-70 (1873) is older and is still in use by the US Navy and US Coast Guard in their line-throwing guns. If you're talking about the longest-serving military cartridge still used as a weapon, that's 7.5x55mm Swiss (1889), in use by the Sturmgewehr 57 which is still in use in Switzerland, Bolivia, and Ukraine.
The 7.62x54R (1891) is definitely old, but it's not the world's longest-serving military cartridge.
Probably my favorite rifle I own is my 1944 M44 Mosin Nagant chambered in 7.62x54R. The cartridge is a great round.
I use the 180 grain soft point Winchester for hunting in my Mosin M-44.
Just knowing that I was able to guess which cartridge it was, makes me proud of being a weapon enthusiast.
Liked the video topic. Liked the casual discussion. Good information and examples. Dam fine video.
I have 3 91/30's. 3 crates of spam cans stored. And working on one. I bought dirt cheap. 2003 cheap so my grandkids and their friends could shoot cheap and learn basics. I have a 44 that I like to shoot, it does just fine on hogs. GREAT VIDEO ERIC 😁