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Those cruxiforms are there to strengthen the blade while keeping weight down so you can actually use it. Not primarily to bleed out the opponent.
I was looking for this comment. The shape provides rigidity.
cruxiform is a great way to make a stabbing implement strong and at the same time light, and the bonus is the wounding properties.
“... except the campers do occasionally try to kill each other...”
I see we attended the same church camp!
😂😂😂
I also see he has been campaign with me and my brother's
Did you forget the original bayonet?
The plug blade
A knife that was just shoved in the barrel for longer reach, before the actual bayonet.
Need a "Top 5 Sporks" video.
Can we do a collab with mersteve for that
I'll see your Spork and raise you a Foon. lol
@@autismo2440 nice
The Italian navy knife, that is called a "marlin spike" it is used for untying knots.
Old world sailors used to wear them around their necks.
And horse Hof's
Also used to open up rope cords when splicing rope.
That’s a rigging knife. I carried one for year when I was in the marine industry and still carry one every time I’m of the water. The marlin spike is for splicing lines. The key is for undoing shackles that attach to sails or rigging stays.
That French navy knife had a marlin spike on the back and the other blades were used for work with nets and line rigging
That knife with that part you dont know what it is.
It's a sailors riggers knife and that spike is called a "marlin spike". You use it too undo knots in haus line or splicing lines togeather. I carry one when I fish and my bait caster spools up to undo a birds nest right quick. Also did work as an underwater welder and they are super handy
Combat before firearms was up close and personal, not for the faint of heart.
Combat with firearms is even more brutal and gory...
@@SonsOfLorgar I'm pressing X on that one, seeing someone drop from a 300-600 meter shot from a rifle is definitely less brutal and messy than bludgeoning someones head open from 2 feet away with a battle hammer.
cannot imagine how bloody the battlefields were before repeating firearms, every skirmish would turn into a bayonet charge of disembowling bloody screaming carnage, i would rather just get shot than watch my intestines spill out on the ground and get stepped on
the cruciform was also for stiffening the blade
Yes, it certainly gave it Much More strength and durability... it ain't gonna' Break Off in a body.
that's all it was for.... There is no such thing as a "blood groove".
I would consider a spike bayonet more stabbery than cutlery.
Winner comment of the day lol!
The thing with the spike is that it goes between the ribs far easier than a blade.
Hey, after I bayonet someone I need to cut them up for a snack. I can’t do that with a spike.
Spike bayonet/flat head screwdriver...dual surviving
i did not see my 2 favorite mil issue blades...the okc-3 marine bayonet is the best bayonet / utility / fighting / survival blade and the orange handle camillus paratrooper switchblade
32:30 - That's a can opener designed to open hermetically sealed metal containers. It works like the key on a can of Spam to unpeel the airtight/watertight seal commonly found on Naval supplies.
2 reasons to have a serrated/claw like muzzle break:
1. Can somewhat replace the bayonet due to it's sharp prongs and edges
2. Can jab into wood, flesh, etc., and fire rounds while it's impaled into your target.
I was in nepal like 5 years ago and really everyone who is even remotely security related carries a kukri. Private security guards at hotels would have this as their only weapon. No baton, no pepper spray, no gun. Just a kukri. Many Police officers would also carry only a kukri and a rusty old FN FAL. Again no extensive belt with any non lethal weapons, comms, first aid equipment or even handcuffs or spare ammo for the rifle. Seems they only had one or two mags and a kukri.
I love these history shows! PLEASE DO MORE!!! I loved this episode!
That big spike on the folding blade might be for prying open knots. Called a Rigging knife and would be used on ships (I think).
I've always been a big gun guy I liked knives and bayonets I guess more of a by product of my love for old rifles so I clicked on ur video to pass the time for a couple of minutes not intending on finishing it yet 36 minutes later I'm done and now I know what I'm looking up for the rest of the day thanks for the great video man keep up the great work
You typically don’t sew up small puncture wounds anyway. There is bacteria packed deep into the wound channel and they have to be irrigated daily for the first few days to minimize infection.
Marlin spike, it’s used in line working. So say you gotta lift something heavy so you make a knot in a line it’s gonna get tight and the spike is used to bunch into the knot and wiggle it around to break it loose
The pocket knife was used by sailors. The spike is for knot work. The fork looking piece is a can opener.
The cruciform style also guve the bayonet strength against bending or breaking if it has sideways torque applied to it. And it helps with withdrawal from a flesh wound. That is where the blood groove had to be added on knife style bayonets.
The cruciform bayonet was not designed to inflict hard to repair wounds. That was just an unintended byproduct of it's design. The design added multidirectional strength to a long narrow bayonet.
Yep. And another myth is that the Hague outlawed cruciform bayonets. They did not as they continued to be produced in SKS, Mosin, SMLE, etc.
Hi Eric, The knife you showed at the end of the video is a British army pattern and can be had with and without the rigger's marlin spike. The split blade is a crude can opener. I got mine as military surplus over 50 years ago and it still lives in the toolbox in my car. My dad had one when doing his national service in the early 1950s. Thanks for your great videos.
Your Italian clasp knife has a Marlin spike for rope, a can opener, a sheep's foot blade and a flat head screwdriver/ prybar
The riggers knife spike end is called a Marlin Spike it’s used to help break knots loose in rope
The Mosin bayonet has an extra cool little purpose the tip is a flat head screwdriver and can be used to tighten the rifles action screws in the field if needed, i didn't have a flat head screwdriver on hand so i used the bayonet and it worked fine
The only death in combat worse than by hard thick steel is being burned up by a flame thrower.
Love my OD Green M9 Lancay. They also have a sharpening stone on the sheath. You can flip the blade so it cuts upward like an AK. I wonder what the US military doctrine thinks about that.
Navy Riggers Knife: The spike is for untying knots, which tends to be much harder when you're dealing with wet rope. The weird little fork with the blade inside is for cutting canvas sheets.
The british spike bayonet was designed for mine-sweeping. It could also be fixed at the entrenching tool.
Nothing like a 20” 590a1 with a bayonet to say ‘get off my lawn.’
Love my 20" 590a1
32:16 that's a seaman knife. issued to personnel with rope work duty. That thick spike is designed for making splice and bulleyes
The triangular blade bayonet is basically the descendant of the smallsword. I had that exact model of Mauser bayonet, got it in a box full of bayonets covered in Axle grease.
The Mora 2000 knife is also the standard issue utility knife in the Swedish armed forces.
There is a bayonet for the previous service rifle, but it's only issued in case of mobilisation.
I believe the spike is used to assist in untying knots. My father was in the Navy for 20 years and had several of these. I vaguely remember him saying something about untying knots when I was a kid.
Some bayonets like the M1905 bayonet were used in WWI for the 1903 Springfield and later shortened to be used in WWII for the Garand.
Man, we're from Armies on the other side of the planet from each other but the way you describe bayonets and how they're looked on from a soldiers perspective just hits home with me too.
New drinking game......every time Eric says OK. I'm drunk and 27 drinks behind, I just can't pour fast enough. Hehe.
Or when he with Chad and say "that's right!"🤣🤣🤣
Before I had a bunch of my knife collection stolen I had an old Veitnam M16 bayonet that was a friend of mine that he carried in Vietnam. He knew I collect knives and guns and he gave that bayonet to me when I was about 12 years old and also had an M1 Garand bayonet that was my grandfather's step dads when he served in WWII and it was stolen as well. I wish I still had them. I think about it all the time and remember stories that they would tell me about their days overseas. My grandfather step dad served in the Philippines and I think also Germany in a few battles. And he always told me how much he loved his M1 Garand.
The cruciform also keeps the blade from sticking in the enemy's body there's a condition were if you stab with a conventional blade that the tissue creates a vacuum around it and cause it to be difficult to withdraw!
10:00 min mark, those grooves and forms were propably intended to provide the blade with stifness more than creating wounds that are harder to stich up. I'll bet the explanation for wounds and letting the blood out are more likely a soldiers tales.
More stiffness with less weight. (and cheaper to produce)
@@nirfz Yep, funny that people still believe that those are just for nasty stabs and bleeding the opponent out...
The Italiian riggers knife was basically used for rope. The British and I believe the French Navy had them too. The spike is called a marlin spike used to make various knots and the other funny looking blade is really for opening metal barrels and cans.
That falked part of the knife is an old style rocker can opener
Cruciforms were a surefire way to stiffen the blade, especially a long blade from cheaper steel, and make it better for thrusting. A flexible blade doesn't thrust well at all. A bending blade can get stuck easily as well. The cruciform was primarily to make sure it went in to the enemy and came back out easily. As for stitching you aren't likely to stich up a cross cavity hole in several organs no matter what the hole is shaped like.
@iraqveteran8888 the m5 bayonet is for the M1 garand. That lug goes into the end cap of the gas port on the garand system. My hometown used to make those bayonets and I collect them lol.
Napoleon and his Grande Armée didn't used pikemen. You are probably talking about Spanish Tercio.
or the English Civil War.
Yeah, the “transition” period he talked about was like 400 years...
*Tercios
Rhodesian Wojak ?
I think that last european armies, that use a significant number of pikemen, were the Swedish caroleans and the Russians during the Great Nordic War in the early 18th century.
The Sweden used them as an assault weapon, because their tactic was to get close to enemy, fire a volley, and then crush through the enemy lines in close combat.
The Russians used pikemen because they had to scale up their army against the Sweden, and pikes are faster to produce than muskets. When they had enough muskets, the soldiers changed their pikes for muskets. The last time the Russians used pikes was during the French invasion of Russia in 1812. The Russians hadn't enough muskets to arm their militia, so the issued pikes to them.
the Mercator never was official Standard Issue, but is one of the oldest folding Knifes known to be widely used in the military, it has the nickname "Kaiser Wilhelm Messer" which should give a clue as to how long that boy is around...
also it´s my goto EDC Knife, but make sure you buy one with the Carbon Steel Blade, not the stainless one!
9:54 Actually the cruciform bayonet shape was not made because it was harder to treat the wound it creates, the shape is to maximize stiffness of the blade so it doesn't flex when stabbing into thick military coats without adding additional weight or material. The wound shape is just incidental. For spike bayonets, the scalloped sides also reduce surface area when entering a body so the friction the flesh acts on is minimized.
The Italian navy Knife is very similar to the British/commonwealth military folding pocket knife. I think multiple country’s were using these types in the 20th century.
I got a remake of a Confederate D Guard Bowie for Christmas. Looks a lot like the Argentine short sword but with a wider blade.
The spike on the Italian pocket knife is for braiding line, making loops etc.
It's been many years but the name came back to me. That spike is called the "Marlin Spike."
Would love to see a video comparing WWII bayonets I have a few and it’s neat to compare them
The frog at Min 10:25 is not the original. The frog is a swedish WW2 frog for the M1896 bayonet (...just sayin)
Min 29:00, the Swiss Army Knife is in service at the german army. Germany is united since 1990 (no east and west anymore).
My dear friend the plastic c-ration spoon was most cherished! Never left my uniform.
The rifle, when dry or disabled, can either become a club or a spear (with the attachment of a bayonet). I prefer a spear.
I believe that spike on the end of the pocket knife was for undoing knotts
"I don't know, whatever" - Iraqveteran8888. Most accurate comment in the video
My country pride khukuri ❤️
The last one u dont know is a naval knife the spike is for undoing the rigging n the fork is actually a old style of a can opener
Got a US M1892 KRAG-JORGENSEN bayonet, stamped 1899 and US, has the scabbard, blade is 11 1/2" long total length is 16". Relative used it in Philippine-American War.
the wire cutting m16 bayo was designed by Buck Knives . yea ! there are two major things to consider when choosing knife steel .cutting edge or shock resistance . a kitchen knife or razor is going to require the ability to be sharpened to a useful edge that lasts or a blade that will stand up to severe stress .
The spike on the Italian Navy knife is to loosen knots on the ropes on the ship
I'm a big knife guy! I've been collecting since I was a kid! I love this video! 😀
10:12 Many of the stylito shaped blades are made that way to make it harder to sew up and to make a stronger pointy thing. The cruciform simply has a reinforced spine for the most obvious of reasons; to prevent bending in what is otherwise a blade thin enough to bend. He confused the cap lifter with the can opener. It has both. This is about the same thing as their Trecker. I have two of those.
The shape of the blade has more to do with making it as rigid and strong as possible while being light, thin and pointed for piercing.
Someone cussed me out yesterday for shooting my new 270 at 9:30 in the morning and they don’t even live that close to me so I just kept shooting
Marlin 795 hell shoot some more for me
407ForRent sure will right after I get some more ammo
At the west German pocket knife there comes memories back off my time of duty. We called it the "Bw Stumpf" or "Bw blunt". we use it for really literally everything at campsite or in the workshop. I love it
And the otter knife were not so widely issued. the mainly issued cuttlery for West germany Soldiers were the Victorinox pocket knife. its issued to literally every military personnel.
The Swedish m/96 mauser bayonett was all metal, even the handle, a hollow tube with good machined pattern. The "scabbard" was metal, and was very well secured to then handle by a spring steel clasp, it was used in training so you wouldnt cut your self, or your fellow soldiers.
Your grasp of European military history is a bit tenuous .
...As is his grasp of the definitions of the many "cool" big words he likes to use! ;)
Give him a break, most Americans think history ends at 1776. At least he knows it's a bit longer than that.
Lee Winterthur were victims of a politicized education system that wants to divorce our populace from our history specifically, but history in general. The ugly truth is that many Americans don’t know when the Revolution was fought, who it was fought against, the political reasons for that fight, not to mention the other 200 plus years afterwards, except for an extremely revised version of the Civil Rights Movement and that we were slavers/the “fact” that we invented slavery. For many publicly educated Americans, if they don’t read history books, or go online for historical knowledge(amongst other subjects), they just don’t have that knowledge. It’s not a problem of arrogance, as many think it is, our populace has either been at the losing end of a lengthy, devilishly effective subversion or simply the victim of a tremendous educational disservice. Just because the knowledge is out there doesn’t mean people look for it, especially when they don’t know what to look for.
@@onii-chandaisuki5710 because "everything before 1776 was a mistake" lol
This vid shook loose a few memories: my personal purchase service knives were bucks, the 110 carried on my belt to show how macho I was (still have it) and a 305 lancer (smallest buck knife I know of, lost it) that was responsible for returning many F-111As to OR status. I stripped many coax wires to install new connectors on avionics equipment. Memories.
Ps. They were very thin cables...
Love all your videos as always, love all of these historical weapons.
The second Gras bayonet isn't cruciform, that's called a "T-spine," which is slightly different... It is there to strengthen the spine for increased durability for thrusting, but that bayonet still has a single cutting edge. You don't see T-spines very often.
Some time ago I was driving with a couple friends. While driving past a mausoleum we heard a big kachunk from the rear of the car. We stopped the car to see what it was. It took a few minutes to figure it out but we found an ak 47 bayonet lodged under the rear left wheel well.
What happened next? ;)
Davey J
Dude ... good find !!
Was the ak47 still attatched???😮 Nice road find.
Dreadnought of Blades we bought a bunch of aks and lived happily ever after
No showing of a Ka Bar knife at all, wow disappointed lol
Additionally, the cross or T-Profiles provide extra rigidity id say
Not additionally that's the main reason, neither the mentioned wound channel nor the "blood flow". Those are urban legends. (You can make a lighter thinner blade with the same rigidity in such a cross section.
The modern little german knife (otter mercator) actually is around since the end of the 19th century and was never (at least in germany) a military knife. But a lot of german soldiers owned and carried them, that i was long believed they were issued by the military in ww1/2. They are even nowadays in production ;)
Gott sei dank.
@32 minutes the rigers knife has a Marlins spike. It is used to aid in untying knots.
*Drinks wine* "Mmmmmhmmm the French!"
Renoundforitsexcellence
@@AryDontSurf hahahah you got it
The folding sheep head blade knife was a navy knife with a marlin spike and seam ripper.
P38! Those were the Days. Canned peaches with pound cake-anyone?
Mmmm yea
Hey love your videos just thought would let you know that The first french bayonet with the brass handle is actually a french chassepot bayonet and not a M80 Gras bayonet.
On the Italian knife. That conical piece of steel is a marlin spike. Used to separate strands of rope to splice lines together or make an eye at the end of a line.😎✌
Another main reason for the long bayonets in Military Arms of the world was the calvary you had to get the Riders off the horses or they would just cut your lines AKA Pike
Cruciform and triangular cross sectional thrusting weapons are for maintaining stiffness while using less material or increasing blade length. The last thing you want is your bayonet flexing when trying to stab a guy wearing a thick coat, or hitting a magazine or something.
Same design was used in the small sword.
Theres a sword channel here on UA-cam, Scholagladiatoria which talks about this subject.
The only pig sticker I have is on the ol sks haha
Ive got my m44 mosin with the attached cruciform bayonet gotta love a prison shank strapped to a flamethrower/war club rifle 😂😂
@@paulramsey5695 those cruciform bayonets leave a nasty wound
Short swords were a standard issue weapon for many napoleonic armies. Therefore not status symbols like officer swords of the era. The short sword was a secondary weapon that was almost more of a utilitarian tool and was often recorded as being used for field craft and chopping wood.
that german pocket knife is actually standard issue for literally every german soldier. one of like 5 items on that list that do not suck or are obsolete.
The end of the Mosin bayonet is a Flat Head Screwdriver
Can be but it is a chisel tip for Penetrating bone
@Zane Blaire why is that it more a chisel tip for going threw bone
The Italian knife blade that looks like a fork,used for can opener.
The swedish also uses their own Mora 2000 as a military knife.
when i was in the navy seabees 78 to 82 we where getting ready to go play our war games a friend was taping his the one for his m 16 and the blade broke in half
The navy knife has a main blade for cutting line it also has a marlin spike for undoing knots and the third tool was for cutting similar to a seat belt cutter
that weird spike on the navy knife is prolly for getting a knot out of a rope. i would think...
I saw some of those surplus West German army Victorinox knives on the interwebs a few years ago, I bought 4 of them for Christmas presents for me and a few mates, mine sits on my desk next to my pooter so its easy to grab and go. Absolute bargain price.
the sailors knife with the marlin spike also had a shackle wrench - fork shaped
I love what your doing my brother. I’m an Air Force Veteran from the Gulf War era and have really fallen in to the PCP air gun way of life rabbit hole. Could you enlighten some of our brothers and sisters about this rapidly advancing activity that’s backyard friendly and VERY Therapeutic and relaxing. Since I feel into this rabbit hole, I have completely gotten away from all the meds the VA constantly wants to shove down my thought. Shooting is shooting and these modern airguns are not powder burners and are legal in most states to use in your back yard. Some are even regulated and under 300$ and a hand pump that will put out 4500 psi sells on Amazon for less than 50$. Just trying to help out our families that have been effected by this 20-+ year conflict. Keep up the good fight bud.
You should have talked about the Albanian sks bayonet behind you on the wall. Lol. Love the video.
the bayonet that came with the 03A3 and the initial garands were basic pikes, when attached to the rifle.
The spike on the Italian Navy knife is to aid in untying knots.
Norwegians used the same knife, around 10-20 years ago.
I'm assuming that shirt is for Kirk Hammet.
Lol