First Ride With The Cheapest Big Bore 440cc Kit. How Long Will It Survive?
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2021
- I test drive my 2001 Honda 400ex that has the cheapest big bore 440cc top end kit installed on it. Will it survive the test? #Honda, #Test, #BigBore,
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She's good 🙂 my dude 😎
Sell it to me
I will give you 1300 cash
Where do you get all the parts from?
2vintage is this engine still running strong?
I can't stress enough the need to change the oil and go through the oil filter after a break in to get rid of any fine metal shavings especially after she smoked. It sounds really healthy so far.
Yep that's a good idea!
Need to adjust on the valves a little bit!!! Other than that seems healthy.
@@2vintage - mating new uppers to “seasoned” lowers is hit & miss, but with HONDA anythings, it’s normally a hit.
on topic: you damn-sure won’t hurt anything by changing oil(s) & any filter(s). but, as I understand, you’re in the business of fix/repairing, then moving on. I’d say she’s fixed after chain repair & the burden of post-op maintenance could be extended to the next Dude (upon recommendation) awesome job, as usual & thanks for taking us along.
P.S. - I picked up a Minty Yamaha 2-stroke twin 350cc “Torque Induction” toy. she’s been properly Cafe’d out & beautifully painted with all new needed parts. I’m 6’6” 240lbs so I’m curious what this ride will be like for me…one thing I do know is that shift-revs will be higher than Post Malone on his birthday, and I’ll look like Shaq on a girl’s Huffy. an old Dude who passed away, put a ton of thought, effort & dollars into her, so I must finish it & take her out for rips, so his Soul can officially rest in peace.
I’ll find a way to send you pics, so you can see how you’re inspiring a 43yr old ‘former-you’ to get back at it…though, me wife isn’t the most appreciative of your inspirational videos here in YT. Cheers, Man.
Rebuilding just the head. New cylinder piston and rings. Where the hell is the shavings going to come from? You keep saying this on all his videos. I have rebuilt more engines than I can remember. But there isn’t “shavings” to come from anywhere just doing rings.
8:40 there"s dad in the window! Going great here he is again tearing up my lawn! lol
A little piece of advice that'll save you a lot of time those carburetors both the pilot and the main jet can be changed by just removing the fuel nut you do not have to remove the bowl on those carburetors to access both Jets that will save you a lot of time
On most bikes you can loosen both carb clamps and tilt the carb a little so you don’t have to take it all the way off cause a 400ex has to have several parts taken off to get the carb completely off
make a video idk what yu mean
My OHV repair business is booming! Smowmobile season here now, I'm ass deep in them bad boys right now. If people would check their equipment out before they go out and thrash on it bad stuff wouldn't happen so much. Especially the newer 4 strokes. Keep wrenching bud, great job.
will be interesting to see how the piston and bore hold up after a few hours on play.as always epic vid dude. Huge love from the uk
I believe it will hold up! Just break it in correctly and you will be fine. I put a oversized niche piston in my 1991 Polaris 350L and man that thing runs like a top. I went easy for 2 tanks of fuel and its a great running machine. Great vid Joe me and my boy love watching your vids.
Sounds great Joe unfortunate about the chain but the quads a winner mate all day long brilliant job on the build as usual looks great too take care 🏁🏁🏁
10:30 FYI I dont think thats oil smoke. I think its just condensation burning out of the pipe since its cold. My 2004 300ex used to do that on cold starts when its pretty cold out even when it was brand new.
Yes
@@Cliffprogarage how does he not know this🤷🏼♂️ just like when you start your car when it’s cold.
I think the kid is a little slow unfortunately.
@@lklk1997 🤷🏼♂️
The longer the run in the longer she will last is all i can say. Usually about 3 tanks of fuel on 4 stroke and 1 to 2 on 2 stroke. Just to be sure so i can then ride them harder than you could imagine with no probs. Good series bro
Seems to be running perfect brother, awesome job. Be safe :)
Hey man those niche rebuild kits aren’t even that bad honestly. Yeah they’re definitely cheap but they get the job done! I’ve used them for a couple 90’s kid quads and they run good!
Hey Joe. Sorry I haven't been commenting. I've been too busy glued to watching the videos. Just let me say: I have been excited by how you take something so worthless and bring it back to life. Indeed it's enjoyable. Keep 'um coming. Don't forget to bring in Chuck once and a while as a Judge and Jury. lol Happy Holidays to you, your wife and family.
Great job and cool project. I'm sure your chain was too loose. Definitely something to check before riding hard. These things create so much torque and that tiny front sprocket spins so fast something has to give if things aren't all in spec. I bought a running 2004 YFZ 450 pre COVID for $1,000, rode it for 45 minutes and ran like a beast. Last go round on the trail I decided to really got on it and promptly snapped the chain, which I knew was too loose and needed adjustment, and cracked the case since I had no case saver. Right where the clutch goes in so that was the end of that quad. Luckily sold it for parts for more than I paid. Not a bad idea to change the chain with the sprockets and make sure the chain tension is at OEM spec. Keep up the great work!
Gtfoutta here with your “covid” talk.
Looks like you brought another one back to life. I don’t know who buys your projects, but I do hope they appreciate what you did.
Check the rear carrier/axle bearings for play.
I put a 70 dollar niche cylinder and piston kit on a blaster about a year ago. Runs good still no complaints
That's awesome!
Wiseco better
@@blastersmith2007 obviously wiseco is better quality, not everyone can afford a nice top end kit or simply don’t want to spend that much on their machine
@@ratherberippin8861 I agree, not everyone has enough time or money they want to put into their bike/quad. Even though wiseco is way better in every way it’s still amazing that an 80$ top end can survive that long.
I got a niche on my ltz 400 turned into a 460 stroker and it’s a beast still for the past year
Lube from assembly and rings seating could’ve been the source of the smoke. Cool project!
man i gotta get myself another 400ex!! i miss my old one. fun and reliable as hell.
A guy i go Wheeling with has a niche top end kit on his Honda Forman and has been running it for a full season so far with no issues.
Good to know!
I’ve never seen any body tie down a 4wheeler by the seat but different strokes for different folks and the valves need adjusting a tad and also that wasn’t smoke it was condensation from the cool air in the morning while the motor is making heat
Most of that "smoke" is condensation in the exhaust from the cold weather.
You got a smoking deal on that ATV, it sounds good!
Lmao get your eyes checked. That was without a doubt smoke.
Nice I loved the build! Put an hour meter on it to see how long the kit lasts. Keep up the great work and love the vids :)
check your rear swing arm bushing it came off while cornering if it is wore out it would throw it off center and kick the chain
Brake in hint, 1/2 cup of Marvel to tank of fuel. It sounds real good, those kits do well. Haven't had one crap out yet. Great job!! Nice quad!!!
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen you shift through the gears right so either you took my advice or other people has commented about it and you took there advice. That’s the reason you feel like it’s fast is cause it is when you row through the gears faster. It’s not necessary to wind it to the rev limit in every gear cause it made its peak power long before it hits the rev limit
The 400ex sounds really strong good job 👍
Sick ! Hope eveything holds up Joe
That's awesome Joe keep it up. I put one of those pistons in my cr80 last summer and so far the 68 dollar piston has held up to my abuse
Awesome! Good to hear!
hopefully it blows up!!!!
Good thing you had that case saver on there that’s for sure
yep happy it was on there
Smoking is just cold weather & the engine wasn’t warmed up. Carbs need a min or two to get warmed up. I had a 98 Honda Magna about 20yrs ago, & that bike was cold blooded…you needed to let it run 5-10min before heading out…cars were like that too before FI. Great build dude. Enjoy your vids.
Awesome vid and edits and filming and bikes and shop and trucks. I’m glad the chain didn’t go thru your case
Also wondering if it needs resetting a bit. Sounds like its bogging a little at full throttle instead of revving out. But maybe just the way the exhaust sounds. Either way well done.
Beautiful place you live , i love it , keep up the good work .
I love your videos keep up the good work
Man I feel like that could have been alot worse. Hopefully nothing else is damaged 🤘
400ex master! Nice work!
What’s your opinion on the 440 big bore kit? Is it worth it, can you feel the power difference
Great video man
I bought a cheap Chinese kit for my 01 blaster and it lasted almost a year of hard beating but the bottom end locked up and it was a hotrods bottom end. But that was my fault i did not have it jetted correctly for the mods i had.
The best yet beautiful quad feir play
Great work you do but why don’t you wash down the parts/carby before you pull them apart so no dirt etc gets in them?
If you still have your other 400ex you should do a race to show the difference.
Yes I am going to do that
"So far, so good" should be the strapline on your merch 😅
That 3 wheeled golf cart is dope! My buddy had one of those his was blue. He put a 20hp v-twin engine in it. He had it for a while and sold it. If I'm not mistaken those are from the 70s and I think they are made by Harley Davidson.
Those were from the 1970’s when AMF owned Harley Davidson(considered the low point in H-D history) You could also find AMF H-D dirtbikes then, and my father had an AMF H-D snowmobile too, none of which had Harley v-twins.
how do you break in a dirbike? every cc from 85 to 500. watched al of your vids keep going man your my inspiration. i wont to start my own dirtbike channel a repair and rebuild them. but i think everyone is going to hate me on school because i get 0 vids. and because im dutch. keep going i love it. best regards, Timme
Good thing you had the case saver!
Nice that you took it easy to break it in a bit. I wonder if others who had the cheap parts fail really beat the heck out of it or just manufacturing defects. Pretty rad though
I'm guessing a lot of people install these kits when they have other problems present, like valve issues, carb issues, etc. And then blame it on the cheap kit.
that chain crunch at least didn't destroy anything
@@M.TTT. yeah good thing it had the case saver on it
I used a namura big bore piston kit on my eiger (the supposed worst and cheapest piston kit there is) gave it one or two 5-minute break-in cycles and had it floored out in the woods everyday after that never had any issues no smoke or anything
@@destruct61 some of the kits actually hold up!
I wonder if that 440 top end will put more stress on the bottom end
Run it like you stole it. If it's put back together right she'll hold up fine.
All the lengthy break in period stuff stems from the Iron sleave cylinder/ AL piston days, With the new coated AL cylinder/ AL pistons much shorter break in procedures are required. On my race bikes I pretty much did a second gear run at low throttle for a few min's then up to 3/4 throttle then WFO, ready to race.
I think with proper installation (as i know you do) it will last under normal usage no racing or hooligan limiter over usage. 🤣
Looking good buddy,nice work get you a new chain,and pop some wheelies lol..
I think the valves need a little adjusting and you will be good !!! Motor sounds good !!!
Thinking about buying this kit for my 2002 400ex. Is it still running strong?
Wisconsin here too. Where are you in WI? Really great series! I loved watching. How has that kit held up??
i got a question I’ve been trying to find out for a while, if I put on a new slip on exhaust do I have to rejet?
2vintage.. how is everything holding up ? I bought a standard bore kit and I'm about to put it in. Let me know, thank you.
Anyone who's worrying about their machines smoking latley keep in mind it's getting cold outside lol
Brother i jus got a 01 250ex for $200 and only issue was battery was too small first start with jumper pack it fired rite up
Sweet find! I love when it's an easy fix!
Oh yeah I got a 1980 Suzuki ts 250 for free it's needs cdi but I got one for it gonna put motor on lt230 quadsport frame my own one off lt250r
And some people will turn somethin simple to an Einstein equation
i have a 2002 suzuki ozark it was smoking 4 years ago when i parked it pulled it out this year got it running and it hasnt smoked since
You’re so helpful! I wish you were getting rich from all the times I watch your vids. Thank you.
Hows this running now? Any issues? Whay kind of power should you be seeing with this?
Do you have to put a cooling system on them to run the 440 kit?
I love my 400ex they deserve our best efforts 😊
Sounded in the startup vid just like my Rancher 350 with a Niche cylinder and piston, the piston was way to small and the piston rattled. Had the same sound.
I’d get new sprockets front and rear to go with that new chain to avoid wear issues. But that’s just me.
Anything that wears as a set,should b replaced as a set!
@@darrinwoodward14 wrong. You can put a new chain on old sprockets, as long as they aren't roached. New sprockets old chain is the no no.
@@4thdimensiontravels855 it will just stretch the chain twice as fast.worked professional on bikes for over 30 years.and don't waste your breath on trying to tell this kid the right way to do things,it will just start arguing from the 12 year Olds that watch him.if you want to watch somebody build bikes and quads the right way,watch Michael Sabos channel.he is a good technical builder,the way it should b.keep in mind,I ride 500 cc bikes and bigger,which have a tendency to wear out chain and sprockets much faster.
@@darrinwoodward14 yup, i noticed but what ever, on some bikes i do all front rear and chain some just chain, mainly cause sprockets are expensive
How fast do ya ex 440 kit go and what year is ya bike ? Can you do a video vs ya z400 they are same class.
Did you ever any problems with starting ? I just installed the 440 kit and it's a PITA to get started . Have to hold wide open throttle or blip it to get it to start , will pop start just fine . Timing , spark , fuel all good ... runs nice once I pop start it too , stock cam , 45 and 165 jets . My only problem is getting it started .... Anyone ?
That silver 3 wheeler thing looks like the space ship from battery not included film lol
Love that movie
I got the same kit been thrashing on it since the beginning of the pandemic 💯👍🏾
Nice, glad it's holding up for you
I bought a 400 exoff market place for like 300 buck i was told it has a big bore kit and upgraded cam it definitely has a new piston they said the starter craped out it was stuck i got it freed up but seem like there is to much compression on the motor for the starter to turn it over do you have any problems turning yours over wuth the big piston or dose it need a compression release valve or something any help would be appreciated
@@brandonhatcher619 I would see why the starter seized 1st, I've never had that happen to me. Also havent had any starting problems with the big bore kit. Bike would start in 2 seconds anyday .
Get the Niche performance camshaft, it will wake it up for the 20 bucks haha. I ran the Namura 440 kit and the Niche performance cam, and it was a beast.
Warm it up cool down a few times then break it in how u ride it what I've always done, sounded to me like clutch needs replaced or adjusted, but I'm also not riding it lol
Let's get it boys ,,much love from upstate new York southern tier
Hello mate I have a superquad with a honda cbr 600 engine in it problem I am have is when its cold takes for eva to start to the point battery dies so I have to jump it when it dose start it runs sweet as and will fire straight back up come back next day same problem juat when its cold any ideas
some people may not like this comment, but you gotta be somewhat hard on her after a rebuild, the only way to get the rings seated properly, not saying heat cycles are dumb but giving her some fuel to eat is def the best way to go.
Sounds good though I do hear a slight ping but it might just be something vibrating.
I thought it sounded like a bit of piston slap mare bit that's my opinion when idling fine when u first revving it sound slappy
Well how is it compared to the stock 400ex you also own ?
Good job buddy ur the best I learned so much from you that I made my Owen UA-cam channel skidoo racers channel on UA-cam u are a real inspiration to me and thanks bud for all ur help i bye old snowmobile dirt bikes quads gocarts etc and get them going again I don’t tear them down as much as you do but I will soon would u or could you do a snowmobile revival and fix like too see wat u do
That's awesome that you started a UA-cam channel! Just stay at it and you'll do great!
Good thing it had a case saver on it..
hey 2vintage you should buy another 90s cr80 that was my favorite video
Yeah those are cool bikes! I'll try to find one to do a video on!
how do you find your deals i tried a method but god it scared me ive never see a yz250 with a predator 212 strapped to it but i have now🤢
Update bout the big bore kit please joe
I'm having a problem I put 1.9 qts oil and it dont even show on dip stick the only way is about 3-3-1/2 qts whats wrong ? 2005 400ex
What’s that camera mount you have on your helmet
Take the spark plug out and look at it that will tell you how close the jets are
What’s that silver 3 wheeler in the back, did the jetsons come to visit. 😉🤣
I put my kit on, my 400ex did smoke for like 5 min bc the piston rings gotta set in correctly
what is the peice called that the main jet goes into ?
You should put a stage 2 hot cam big difrence
id just get all new chain and sprockets just get like a cheap kit they work great, Mike Sabo uses em on his kfx450
Sabosss giving away a 426EX right now !!! Shitsssssbdopeeeee
just curious, do you think that not having a heat shield between the engine and the fuel tank contributed to the motor blowing up before you got it.
No deff not
favorite YT channel
Has the bike blown yet? i blew my oem top end and i wanna test this stuff out
How is the 440 kit holding up? Would you recommend buying a 400ex with one already installed? (Not sure of brand)
Why not if anything you can go back to stock ,
Do a race between your mint 400ex and this one
Is it faster?
Hot air, vs cold air gonna see white smoke for a bit.
my griz makes the same kind of noise still havent figured out what it is