Bought a Polaris Ranger 570 full size for the property. It’s lightweight for a side by side (1000 lbs) with a large dump bed. I agree with you about the Kubota, just too heavy and slow.
Hi Josh, you should check the way you installed the attachment brackets, they might be upside down, they have what we call in AUS rivet or avdell nuts on them. they are a crush nut so when installed the nut needs to be pulled up towards the bracket not away or they can stretch the crush area and come loose.
I put a Strongmade basket on the front rack of my 2015 Rancher. It's been great for hauling the chainsaw, gas can, etc. I'd like to put one one the back rack, but half of the year I've got a boomless sprayer on it to spray out the lane and fencelines. It sure is handy around the farm. I've thought about a utv, but upwards of 15k is more than I want to spend. I bought the rancher new. I keep up on the maintenence and it has been 100% reliable. Thanks for the video!
Just sold my 1998 Honda fourtrax 300 4WD that I bought new in mint condition for 2500 hundred dollars , probably could have gotten more but it was my nephew
We like it when you get what you pay for. Nice rack. We are in the market for a side by side but current market has high dollar junk. We are older with a small farm should have purchased one before now. Great video.👍👏👏
Welp that's great advertising pal cause I just bought one after watching your video. I have a 2001 Yamaha Timberwolf and use a polar tandem dump trailer from northern tool. I use it to clean up around our property trimming so this is going to work out great for my saw, trimmer and gas can. Digging the Mechanic Monday and Tool Tuesdays. Great video my man thanks for sharing!
I bought a Koplin rack too, but I like the way the Titan mounts quite a bit better. I added some larger bolts and spacers to try to avoid tearing out the steel mesh though. Maybe Titan will be my next one!
Washer orientation doesn't matter at all, but I am still the same way! They must go on correctly. The flat side with the burr goes toward the work/away from the bolt head or nut it is adjacent to.
It matters ‘very slightly’ as the curve adds tension in the same way as wood grain, but not that much though. They even make a domed washer out of spring steel to use this idea
Downsizing from a SXS to an ATV actually is an upgrade. At least it has been for my farm. There have not been very many instances yet that I have wished I had the SXS. The ATV is more versatile. I went with Strongbox for my ATV rack boxes and they are well made. Minimalizing has been a good thing for me. The ATV is more capable for most things for my use.
I like the atv in most scenarios...but sometimes you need the bed for hauling firewood, fenceposts...mineral blocks and more than 2 people....both have their place for sure my friend
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I bought a dump wagon/cart for all of that stuff I need to carry or haul. So far it works pretty well. It is annoying sometimes, but so far does what I need to do. I don't cart people around on my place so not missing the extra seat space. LOL
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoyed it and eventually when that day does come I'm going to get myself because I'm going to need to if I want to save my land the four-wheeler like you have and get everything on it like you have it's set up I'll put all that stuff on it too because like you said light impact on the land and that's what you want woo and if that piece of metal rubs on your fender just put some kind of rubber underneath the bottom of it
It’s hard to beat a foretrax 300 but why in the world would you sell your rtv? I bought mine not long after you did your first review of yours and I swear I couldn’t imagine life without it anymore. We use it for literally everything
Mine stays parked 99% of the time....I simply don't use it much anymore....but you are right...it's tough to get rid of something you might need alot more in the future...Red toyota $4500.....RTV $18k used ? That's why
Fun little tools for the farm and it is nice to be able to get to areas that trucks just won't go. We've got a kubota side by diesel justblike yours and ill be honest to check cows or light stuff its fine but it is gutless and doesn't do the best job.
I agree....I loved it at first...but now that I'm using 4 wheelers..the kubota is just a rock picker upper tool ...seems mighty expensive for a rock picker don't it!
Hey Josh, just wondering why you haven’t packed that shipping container full of the stuff in your garage so you can have some workable space out of the weather elements? I know the goal is to use the mega-shop for that in the future, but you’re several months away from being able to use the mega-shop I assume.
Josh have you installed the Kolpin ratcheting rhino grips yet? I am getting this rack and was wondering how to attached them? As this rack doesn’t have a way to attach the brackets because the wire mesh is all the way up the side to the top tube. Just wanted to get your thoughts on how to attach them? Thanks so much!
These ATVs have basically been banned in Australia. The Japanese brands gave up and only a couple of Chinese selling them with a roll over bar. The ban came in to try to reduce the number of roll over incidences resulting in injury or death. So in the USA the government forced the installation on little tractors of anti pollution systems to save the planet. In Australia the government banned little ATVs to try to reduce the numbers of people killing themselves on ATVs.
seems Australia might be coming down on it's people a little hard .....from what I hear folks are not happy there....lots of gov't control. I wonder if they'll ban horses? Since they dont' have a roll cage
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Those threaded inserts ( aka Rivnuts ) are directional for the load on them, used the wrong way , and they will pull out of the metal bars.
I bet those atv racks are very handy to haul whatever you need around the farm. Have you been using the other larger Honda with the Wildhare loader on it lately?
Realistically an ATV loader is a terrible idea. I believe with the loader it's not recommended to exceed 5mph and with the price of the loader and fourwheeler it went on buying a used skid loader would be far more useful. In my mind skid loaders are the best investment any farm could make.
"I'm not a red atv guy, but all my atvs are red...." I know what you mean. I'm not a "red" guy either but.... My bike is from team red, my wife's bike is from team red, her car is from team red. The only aberration is my pickup, team blue oval. If you had put that washer on upside down you'd have heard me all the way from Ottawa Canada! (LOL!) I've got the OCD tendency.
Awesome rack! But I don't understand your Kubota isn't more useful than a quad. I have a quad I used for feeding and irrigating. I always had to pull a trailer for whatever. I have been hunting with a friend that has a Honda Pioneer side by side. It is very handy. I just can't afford one. I have a small operation close to 100 head of cattle (about 40 cows, about 30 replacement heifers, about 35 calves and a bull). Also, I can't believe you only weigh 210#. I'm 5'8" and I'm 205#. I still lift everything by hand and I'm getting tired. And I walk all over 140 acres to irrigate. Hopefully our quad gets fixed soon.
Image if you will an ATV that is slightly wider and longer than they currently are. Now image it has three wheels on each side Maybe 6 inches between each wheel. Track wraps around the three wheels on each side. Each side has independent drive forward and reverse. Each side controlled independently with a joy stick. Just an idea.
driving a 6000 lb truck into your pastures v/s a 600lb atv in the muddy winter....soil compaction my friend...it's all about treading lightly. Hit up the livestream channel @stoneyridgefarmerlivestreams and you'll see more of what I do in the winter time...daily farming livestream
@@StoneyRidgeFarmeri am enjoying the channel. Soil compaction isn’t much of a concern in pasture ground on the short grass prairie of the high plains. Everyone has what best for them in their situation. We had to sell about 95 cow-calf pairs in the middle of summer because of this cursed drought, but most of the girls are still here and will be needing feeding this winter. I love your take on the grass hay seeds and cow poop in reseeding the pasture. I still think livestock is much more environmentally friendly than any other type of farming.
Man...I know...there's so much going on all the time it's hard to not film it! I'm cutting back to 3 vids per week soon....tons of live stuff over on facebook though
Easing out of the slow noisy kubota rtv. Give it a few months and back into the much faster honda pioneer or similar when the quad bikes just can't carry the loads you need to carry ;-)
price on each machine was about $6k for newer one....$3k for older one pre Co vid price on the racks is in the video description for ya...about $100-$150 ish for the upgradses
When you add that rack to your ATV how does it affect unhooking and hooking up your Bale spreader or trailer does it put you in a poor back position? A good video continue on that track.
So it sounds like you prefer ATVs over SxSs for farm work… do you also prefer ATVs over light tractors for anything for which there are equally capable attachments for the ATV and the light tractor? I ask because I am considering a small property (20- 100 acre lease for intense rotations of pigs followed by chickens and possibly micro greens for winter fodder to raise year round) and while a tractor is useful, there are workarounds for almost everything a tractor is needed for to use an ATV…. And a red ATV costs 6-12k, but a new tractor is 20k and way up…. If I can do everything for the first two years with an ATV it saves me from spending a lot on a tractor until I need need one instead of just want need one…..
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer He is right Josh , you are pulling on the brackets the wrong way ( not as strong ), as they say , if you can't take time to read the instructions you will need time to do it over.
$3,000.00 for a 30 year old ATV ? ? ? My John Deere 6x4 doesn't leave ANY kind of tracks on turf, is MUCH quieter than an ATV, and is VERY useful around the farm.
$3000 for an ATV that's in near mint condition...it's still an ATV buddy...and it's a very nice one. Check your fire my friend...things cost more nowadays...this does the same as a newer one that cost $10k! Now....your 6x4 is a great machine for sure...that's what I'm looking to get into next
I just spent $3500 on a 2003 Honda Foreman Rubicon, because it's in amazing shape (and it looks new from 20 feet away, and it's red!) They are worth it. My other Honda Foreman is a '98 and it always runs great.
Hi josh ive been following your channel for a long time One thing anoys me . when you continually cut down trees and wildlife habitat . is your plan sustainable . No disrespects intended .
It has a few upsides, removing unhealthy or dead trees that harbour diseases, undergrowth that enables predators and reduces fuel load. He could get some goats to help maybe
Jo....I manage the forest my friend....and I'm building a farm..not a wildlife preserve...however, the amount of wild life that's come to the farm since I started managing things has doubled. There are geese and ducks on the pond...the creeks are full of life and the trees are growing awesome.....some folks think that managing a forest or farm is simply leaving things alone and not touching them...it's just not true. Trees are the most renewable resource on the planet.....don't let anyone tell ya different.....we cut down 3 trees and allow one to grow ....if we don't thin the forest the trees will never reach maturity...they'll simply fall over in a domino affect destroying the trees around them. Remember...this isn't the desert...it's NC there are hundreds of thousands of trees on the property
More cooking shows please
I bet he's got something in store for the mega shop.
Bought a Polaris Ranger 570 full size for the property. It’s lightweight for a side by side (1000 lbs) with a large dump bed. I agree with you about the Kubota, just too heavy and slow.
Hi Josh, you should check the way you installed the attachment brackets, they might be upside down, they have what we call in AUS rivet or avdell nuts on them. they are a crush nut so when installed the nut needs to be pulled up towards the bracket not away or they can stretch the crush area and come loose.
I put a Strongmade basket on the front rack of my 2015 Rancher. It's been great for hauling the chainsaw, gas can, etc. I'd like to put one one the back rack, but half of the year I've got a boomless sprayer on it to spray out the lane and fencelines. It sure is handy around the farm. I've thought about a utv, but upwards of 15k is more than I want to spend. I bought the rancher new. I keep up on the maintenence and it has been 100% reliable. Thanks for the video!
THANK YOU for the videos. This video has saved me from buying a side by side looking for an ATV. I am a single guy in Maynooth ON and relate.
Look for a Suzuki king quad. Cheaper than Honda same reliability I think. Plus you'll love the machine. They aren't allot used
Just sold my 1998 Honda fourtrax 300 4WD that I bought new in mint condition for 2500 hundred dollars , probably could have gotten more but it was my nephew
I’m the same way, Josh. I always install washers “right” side up. It drives me nuts when I see them installed upside down.
If you install them right they shed the water and last longer.
Speaking of nuts, many of them have an up and down side as well.
We like it when you get what you pay for. Nice rack. We are in the market for a side by side but current market has high dollar junk. We are older with a small farm should have purchased one before now. Great video.👍👏👏
Welp that's great advertising pal cause I just bought one after watching your video. I have a 2001 Yamaha Timberwolf and use a polar tandem dump trailer from northern tool. I use it to clean up around our property trimming so this is going to work out great for my saw, trimmer and gas can. Digging the Mechanic Monday and Tool Tuesdays. Great video my man thanks for sharing!
man...I'm super happy with it...takes this little atv to the next level!
Nice upgrade Josh, good way to convert your ATV into a small truck. Good Job, WOOOOO!
I bought a Koplin rack too, but I like the way the Titan mounts quite a bit better. I added some larger bolts and spacers to try to avoid tearing out the steel mesh though. Maybe Titan will be my next one!
I'll take the titan all day over the Koplin!!
I put a pack out plate on my back rack and depending on what I need I can put pack out boxes and accessories on the ATV
I love the Honda 300trx! I have two of them! Rock solid reliable and bulletproof. Yours looks like brand new. I have a red and green one, both 2wd.
Great Titan rack! And great Honda! Thanks for sharing.
Washer orientation doesn't matter at all, but I am still the same way! They must go on correctly. The flat side with the burr goes toward the work/away from the bolt head or nut it is adjacent to.
It matters ‘very slightly’ as the curve adds tension in the same way as wood grain, but not that much though. They even make a domed washer out of spring steel to use this idea
I always install the burr towards the nut, to keep that burr from cutting through paint and eventually rusting.
My husband will take one of everything you have on the farm
@Stoney Ridge Farmer
210? WOOOOOOO! Super Svelte!
I love my fastback knives Josh! Been using them for years
Hi.... Josh, thank you for showing your video homestead 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 🏡🎥👍👍👍
That is a great rack. I've had one on my 06 artic cat since I got it. It's the best accessory on the machine.
What a beautiful farm you have sir, love your videos
Most farms are beautiful in their own way.
Looking good 👍, I haven't seen Mrs
Stoney Ridge in a while, miss you two working together
We are divorced after a long horrible battle with her losing sight of what’s really important in life. Sad situation
Downsizing from a SXS to an ATV actually is an upgrade. At least it has been for my farm. There have not been very many instances yet that I have wished I had the SXS. The ATV is more versatile. I went with Strongbox for my ATV rack boxes and they are well made. Minimalizing has been a good thing for me. The ATV is more capable for most things for my use.
I like the atv in most scenarios...but sometimes you need the bed for hauling firewood, fenceposts...mineral blocks and more than 2 people....both have their place for sure my friend
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I bought a dump wagon/cart for all of that stuff I need to carry or haul. So far it works pretty well. It is annoying sometimes, but so far does what I need to do. I don't cart people around on my place so not missing the extra seat space. LOL
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoyed it and eventually when that day does come I'm going to get myself because I'm going to need to if I want to save my land the four-wheeler like you have and get everything on it like you have it's set up I'll put all that stuff on it too because like you said light impact on the land and that's what you want woo and if that piece of metal rubs on your fender just put some kind of rubber underneath the bottom of it
try a livestock rubber stall mat they are great especially working under vehciles
Makes the unit much more useable.
Oh and on the basket for the back there’s one on Amazon that has a tailgate so it’s easier to get stuff out of the back
I am the same way with the washers. LOL
Putting the washer on properly isn't OCD - it's just good practice. lol
It’s hard to beat a foretrax 300 but why in the world would you sell your rtv? I bought mine not long after you did your first review of yours and I swear I couldn’t imagine life without it anymore. We use it for literally everything
Mine stays parked 99% of the time....I simply don't use it much anymore....but you are right...it's tough to get rid of something you might need alot more in the future...Red toyota $4500.....RTV $18k used ? That's why
Great video Josh 🇺🇲 WOOOOOO 🇺🇲
Honda makes the best four wheelers in my opinion.
Great video.
Hey Stoney what do you want for your Kubota?
What happened to the front end loader ATV?
Something is wrong with the engine on that machine. It’s gotta go to the mechanics shop
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer That is a shame. Already? I believe that one was fairly new right? Or is the one pulling the hay unroller the new one
Fun little tools for the farm and it is nice to be able to get to areas that trucks just won't go. We've got a kubota side by diesel justblike yours and ill be honest to check cows or light stuff its fine but it is gutless and doesn't do the best job.
I agree....I loved it at first...but now that I'm using 4 wheelers..the kubota is just a rock picker upper tool ...seems mighty expensive for a rock picker don't it!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yeah thats almost all we do with it anymore to other than just run around checking cows.
Does the basket hang to where the exhaust is blowing on whatever is in the basket?
Handy rack system, but it wouldn't be pleasant to try to hook up a trailer to with it in the way.
I do it with the bale unroller all the time...just a little further reach for ya
Hey Josh, just wondering why you haven’t packed that shipping container full of the stuff in your garage so you can have some workable space out of the weather elements? I know the goal is to use the mega-shop for that in the future, but you’re several months away from being able to use the mega-shop I assume.
I guess...why move it all twice is my thought....the mega shop starts going up in less than 15 days
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Agreed. Even us OCD types run out of time and energy. Why make extra work.
What those add-ons it all depends on what tickles your fancy God bless NYC
Josh have you installed the Kolpin ratcheting rhino grips yet? I am getting this rack and was wondering how to attached them? As this rack doesn’t have a way to attach the brackets because the wire mesh is all the way up the side to the top tube. Just wanted to get your thoughts on how to attach them?
Thanks so much!
I couldn't make the rhino grips work with this rack
Love the bloopers man your hilarious 😂
These ATVs have basically been banned in Australia. The Japanese brands gave up and only a couple of Chinese selling them with a roll over bar. The ban came in to try to reduce the number of roll over incidences resulting in injury or death. So in the USA the government forced the installation on little tractors of anti pollution systems to save the planet. In Australia the government banned little ATVs to try to reduce the numbers of people killing themselves on ATVs.
seems Australia might be coming down on it's people a little hard .....from what I hear folks are not happy there....lots of gov't control. I wonder if they'll ban horses? Since they dont' have a roll cage
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Agreed, what’s the saying.? You can’t fix stupid! Nor should you regulate down to the stupid level.
So, Josh, will a 5 gallon bucket fit in it?
Yep 3 of them
The hardest thing for you looked like putting on those tiny washers an nuts for big hands. LOL Now I is see why you needed the mega shop😏
Turn straps over nuts go on bottom
Seemed to work great this way. There aren’t any nuts buddy. Just bolts and brackets
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Come on now Josh. Think it fully thru, there is a reason the strap is supposed to be installed per the instructions.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Those threaded inserts ( aka Rivnuts ) are directional for the load on them, used the wrong way , and they will pull out of the metal bars.
I bet those atv racks are very handy to haul whatever you need around the farm. Have you been using the other larger Honda with the Wildhare loader on it lately?
Realistically an ATV loader is a terrible idea. I believe with the loader it's not recommended to exceed 5mph and with the price of the loader and fourwheeler it went on buying a used skid loader would be far more useful. In my mind skid loaders are the best investment any farm could make.
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"I'm not a red atv guy, but all my atvs are red...."
I know what you mean. I'm not a "red" guy either but....
My bike is from team red, my wife's bike is from team red, her car is from team red. The only aberration is my pickup, team blue oval.
If you had put that washer on upside down you'd have heard me all the way from Ottawa Canada! (LOL!) I've got the OCD tendency.
Don’t forget the thumbs up
Glad the add-on held, the blooper reel would have been a splat....
Where do you get the front rack at?
Awesome rack! But I don't understand your Kubota isn't more useful than a quad. I have a quad I used for feeding and irrigating. I always had to pull a trailer for whatever. I have been hunting with a friend that has a Honda Pioneer side by side. It is very handy. I just can't afford one. I have a small operation close to 100 head of cattle (about 40 cows, about 30 replacement heifers, about 35 calves and a bull). Also, I can't believe you only weigh 210#. I'm 5'8" and I'm 205#. I still lift everything by hand and I'm getting tired. And I walk all over 140 acres to irrigate. Hopefully our quad gets fixed soon.
I can't find the link to the racks you have on both ATVs. Can you repost. Thanks
What model is the Big Red one?/How many cc's?
HonDa=Best
Image if you will an ATV that is slightly wider and longer than they currently are. Now image it has three wheels on each side Maybe 6 inches between each wheel. Track wraps around the three wheels on each side. Each side has independent drive forward and reverse. Each side controlled independently with a joy stick. Just an idea.
I'm sorry to be that guy but it appears you installed the brackets on up side down.
The flat side goes up.
Yep, I believe you are correct as that’s what the instructions show at 3:58
well....see...in this world....we have options lol....it works absolutely great this way
Good ideas.
Think I’ll stick with the hydraulic bale bed on the pickup tho.
driving a 6000 lb truck into your pastures v/s a 600lb atv in the muddy winter....soil compaction my friend...it's all about treading lightly. Hit up the livestream channel @stoneyridgefarmerlivestreams and you'll see more of what I do in the winter time...daily farming livestream
@@StoneyRidgeFarmeri am enjoying the channel.
Soil compaction isn’t much of a concern in pasture ground on the short grass prairie of the high plains.
Everyone has what best for them in their situation.
We had to sell about 95 cow-calf pairs in the middle of summer because of this cursed drought, but most of the girls are still here and will be needing feeding this winter.
I love your take on the grass hay seeds and cow poop in reseeding the pasture. I still think livestock is much more environmentally friendly than any other type of farming.
Why do you wear those spooky shade?
When inside I don’t wear sunglasses…when outside I do… that’s about it my friend
I'm having a hard time keeping up with all your videos lately Josh. Lol
Man...I know...there's so much going on all the time it's hard to not film it! I'm cutting back to 3 vids per week soon....tons of live stuff over on facebook though
Easing out of the slow noisy kubota rtv. Give it a few months and back into the much faster honda pioneer or similar when the quad bikes just can't carry the loads you need to carry ;-)
that's why I have tractors.....but I agree....if I sell the kubota I will miss it dearly
What was the price on it if you don't mind
price on each machine was about $6k for newer one....$3k for older one pre Co vid price on the racks is in the video description for ya...about $100-$150 ish for the upgradses
When you add that rack to your ATV how does it affect unhooking and hooking up your Bale spreader or trailer does it put you in a poor back position? A good video continue on that track.
so if I'm using the bale unroller I simply leave it hooked up..but no...it's pretty easy
So it sounds like you prefer ATVs over SxSs for farm work… do you also prefer ATVs over light tractors for anything for which there are equally capable attachments for the ATV and the light tractor? I ask because I am considering a small property (20- 100 acre lease for intense rotations of pigs followed by chickens and possibly micro greens for winter fodder to raise year round) and while a tractor is useful, there are workarounds for almost everything a tractor is needed for to use an ATV…. And a red ATV costs 6-12k, but a new tractor is 20k and way up…. If I can do everything for the first two years with an ATV it saves me from spending a lot on a tractor until I need need one instead of just want need one…..
Your washers may be right side up but your brackets are all upside down.
That’s great but it seems that they work wonderfully
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer The inserts could pull out of the brackets, just saying.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer He is right Josh , you are pulling on the brackets the wrong way ( not as strong ), as they say , if you can't take time to read the instructions you will need time to do it over.
Howdy Josh
Looks like you could use 4 hands
was hear
wooooo!
Sad that you have to say " those things that you hunt with" 🙄 dang pc
Lol I do it as a joke brotha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I thought UA-cam somehow gave you naughty marks or didn't allow it into the algorithm or something if you said it🤣🤣
@@natevanlandingham1945 yes it does, if it hears the word it deranks the video
where I Come From
I have a 2022 rancher
$3,000.00 for a 30 year old ATV ? ? ?
My John Deere 6x4 doesn't leave ANY kind of tracks on turf, is MUCH quieter than an ATV, and is VERY useful around the farm.
$3000 for an ATV that's in near mint condition...it's still an ATV buddy...and it's a very nice one. Check your fire my friend...things cost more nowadays...this does the same as a newer one that cost $10k! Now....your 6x4 is a great machine for sure...that's what I'm looking to get into next
I just spent $3500 on a 2003 Honda Foreman Rubicon, because it's in amazing shape (and it looks new from 20 feet away, and it's red!)
They are worth it. My other Honda Foreman is a '98 and it always runs great.
Hi josh ive been following your channel for a long time
One thing anoys me . when you continually cut down trees and wildlife habitat . is your plan sustainable .
No disrespects intended .
It has a few upsides, removing unhealthy or dead trees that harbour diseases, undergrowth that enables predators and reduces fuel load. He could get some goats to help maybe
Jo....I manage the forest my friend....and I'm building a farm..not a wildlife preserve...however, the amount of wild life that's come to the farm since I started managing things has doubled. There are geese and ducks on the pond...the creeks are full of life and the trees are growing awesome.....some folks think that managing a forest or farm is simply leaving things alone and not touching them...it's just not true. Trees are the most renewable resource on the planet.....don't let anyone tell ya different.....we cut down 3 trees and allow one to grow ....if we don't thin the forest the trees will never reach maturity...they'll simply fall over in a domino affect destroying the trees around them. Remember...this isn't the desert...it's NC there are hundreds of thousands of trees on the property
:-)
You bought that from the ex VICE PRESIDENT. Brandon??? changes my whole perception. lol
uh...ok lol