I like the fact they have Blunt Clearly look stressed at the end after Philip walks away. He’s excellent at hiding his true thoughts and intentions, but it doesn’t mean they’re there..
In this scene, with the leverage Blunt had over Philip, it was ludicrously strong, BUT that doesn't take away the sheer, polished, brass cahoonas/balls it took for Blunt to deliver it to Philip. If Blunt didn't have the leverage, I very much doubt he'd have DARED threaten Philip in the slightest, for it would have been a death sentence, I'm sure.
I remember and admire this scene for it serving as a very well-written illustration of brinksmanship. That's to take nothing away from Blunt's treachery. Rather, it highlights how carefully we need to handle even those who we believe have no..."out".
went to college and got a bachelors of science in psychology to learn about the human mind. What I learned was, you can’t trust anyone to be truthful with you, not anyone. Least of all, yourself.
I never liked Thatcher but I respect how she stood up in Parliament, in 1979, and coolly revealed Sir Anthony Blunt as the Fourth Man. British spies are often forgiven for helping the Soviets before WWII ended BUT the Nazis & Soviets invaded Poland at the same time, it was pre-arranged during talks for the Ribbontrop - Molotov Treaty. A non-aggression pact that made many western reds abandon Soviet communism. So when you hear "I helps Russia because they were the only chance to defeat the Nazis" know that Russia was allied with the Nazis - for the first 2 years Britain fought Germany.
Yes, not many people realise that. For every thousand TV programs repeating ad nauseum the crimes of the Nazis, one might chance upon one detailing a crime by Communists, yet the list of the dead, tortured and maimed by Communists is probably a thousand to one against those of the Nazis. /
That's right. They used to even trade together quite a bit. Like entire trains full of raw materials and foods. When the nazis attacked apparently Stalin couldn't believe it and he disappeared for 3 days.
@@OffGridInvestor He couldn't believe it because his Intel told him that The Nazi's had no Winter weather gear. It sounded extremely dumb to him because if you read about the WWII Eastern Front...it pretty much was. Even Napoleon couldn't beat Russian Winter.
I had a great aunt here in Australia, it was like the Australian version of "keeping up appearances". She used to bang out a few "believe you me". Her mother was the daughter of an exceedingly rich gold mining CEO. I kind of wonder if she didn't pick it up from her mother who was from an upper class background.
It's archaic, and posh people are generally conservative about culture, including language, if not other things. Chaucer, Shakespeare, and others occasionally used the v/s/o ordering for imperative emphasis, which is why it is still used.
That he has some dirt on Phillip and that it would be best to let each other's secrets lie in the past. If you recall earlier in the series, when Phillip was still chaffing under the restrictions of royal life and his perceived emasculation by having no kind of real leading role, he spent a lot of time away from the palace carousing with his posh drinking buddies. There was some kind of Wednesday lunch club where these guys would go knock back a few and had the potential for other hanky panky. Apparently one of the guys in the circle was some osteopath doctor who had some kind of freak off get togethers at his place and Phillip was known to hang out there at times. Whether he actually ever crossed the line and had a fling is a matter of debate, and fortunately for him they didn't have cell phone cameras in those days. Of course Blunt might be bluffing. Maybe Phillip never did anything truly scandalous and if he did, Blunt may or may not actually have the evidence. On the other hand being a royal was a nightmare of paparazzi looking for a scoop, and anything that might have even put Phillip in personal proximity of a scandal was probably not worth risking.
To expand a little on the previous post, Blunt wasn't just a senior member of the royal staff, he was an MI5 spook who handled some very sensitive matters for the Royal family such as the retrieval of the Marburg files from Germany at the end of WWII. It's said that he had dirt on dozens of senior members of the British establishment and that's why he was never prosecuted for being a double agent for the Soviets.
It's been rumoured that Prince Phillip was banging Christine Keeler, one of the women at the centre of the Profumo scandal that brought down the MacMillan government. Keeler had an affair with Secretary of State for War John Profumo at the same time she was engaged in another with Soviet Military Attaché and spy Yevgeny Ivanov creating fears of a major security leak. No evidence has ever been produced that Phillip was involved with Keeler but if the press had got hold of it at the time, the Profumo scandal would have ballooned into a nightmare of apocalyptic proportions for the British establishment.
Fellow Yank here; had a clue, but still had to look it up. Sorry the explanation is a bit long. Anthony Blunt was Surveyor of the King's (then the Queen's) Pictures from 1945 to 1972. As he maintained the Royal Art collection, he endeared himself to the royal family and was given a knighthood. He was also a Soviet spy, having been recruited out of university (check out the “Cambridge Five”. It’s fascinating stuff.) When the truth came out, Britain was already going through a serious scandal (the Profumo Affair, mentioned in the video). Rather than publicize another scandal Blunt was given immunity in return for a confession and help with ongoing investigations. The public wasn’t informed of Blunt’s spy activities, but the royal family was. In the video, Prince Philip is confronting Blunt over having been a traitor and saying he better watch his step. Blunt is countering that Philip better watch his step. It was rumored that Prince Philip was involved in the Profumo Affair, and that the osteopath at the center of the scandal had created paintings of Prince Philip, possibly under compromising circumstances. Blunt is suggesting that he used his art connections to obtain those paintings before anyone could see them and if Philip gives him any trouble he will make the paintings public. This would cause yet another scandal, one that will deeply involve the royal family this time.
@@andrewskerritt3688 2:00 Philip makes it clear that they are drawings. Blunt doesn't indicate that he has any photos, just subtly threatens to release the portraits. BTW, I posted this because the video's description claims "Anthony intimidates him stating that compromising photos of a former member of the royal family linked to the Profumo Scandal may come to light."
@@andrewskerritt3688 I remember much of it from years ago in the news. I was a child but got hold of a copy of the News of the World when I wasn't supposed to. i read about it all. I was quite young and Mother was horrified. Dad for you.. bought it every Sunday morning. lol. I also recall reading about Jackie Kennedy.. before JFK was assassinated .. and her overspending as First Lady.. they did a huge piece on it.. what she was spending on clothes in Paris fashion houses and on the doing up of the White House. all big news at the time.. early 1960s. I also remember where I was when news of Kennedy's murder was aired.. watching a newsflash with my parents at home in England. My Father sank into a chair from standing and clearly said to my Mother.. God help us all now that that man is dead. It shook the world.
@@mariahoulihan9483 And that's the other problem with the video description. Which former member of the royal family was mentioned in their conversation? It was all about threatening Philip.
That's the nature of spy craft. Maybe nothing. Maybe everything. Blunt at the least knew of Phillips association with scandalous affairs at the home of one of his old drinking buddies and insinuated that he had evidence that Phillip was himself involved.
Anthony Blunt was definitely a questionable individual, a slimey character. But Philip was an arrogant asshole, so it’s refreshing to see someone shut him up and bend the knee a bit in this scene.
@@johntomlinson6849 True. Yet the whole thing was hushed up for 20 years to avoid scandal. Not necessarily this one, but at least the scandal of someone living in Buckingham Palace being found out to be a traitor.
Boy, isn’t that the truth ….every word you said. The public doesn’t have the real portrait of who Phillip was at all. His arrogance/ elitist personality was utterly disgusting.
@@mariahoulihan9483 Yeah...but....they were married for 73 years. A lot of ups and downs can happen on time scales like that, and especially among the aristocracy where lifelong monogamy was very much the exception rather than the norm. Most marriages at their level were strategic business arrangements more than romantic love. I think they largely did have a strong partnership, but it had it's frictions too. Whether he indulged or not, a man of his social standing and good looks in his youth certainly would have had endless opportunities to stray had he wanted.
@@ThePierre58It’s incredible how most people don’t bother looking into how the RF actually functions before they claim it’s a drain on tax payers’ money. The most ardent critics of that venerable institution are often those who understand it the least.
Absolutely, could not have put it better myself. I swore allegiance to serve the Monarch and her heirs and successors. I took that as a lifelong oath. Royal Marines circa 1980.@@Michel411
Oh my god, i know what this is about. Prince phillip was inloved with stephen ward and that stephen ward had sexual pictures and fantasy of him and that is what these drawings where about. That is why stephen killed himself. Stephen had a love affair with prince phillip. Quote: saying that Blunt "apparently quietly acted on behalf of the royal family to purchase a series of drawings that Stephen Ward... had made of the Duke of Edinburgh." 👩🦲👱♂️👩🦲
Say what now????, so all that "procuring of women" was a red herring form may have actually happened, I dunno about all that that bit then there have been rumors about him and there were wild stuff around Lord Mountbatten
I like the fact they have Blunt Clearly look stressed at the end after Philip walks away. He’s excellent at hiding his true thoughts and intentions, but it doesn’t mean they’re there..
I can't believe Prince Philip is played by THREE Game of Thrones actors
He was Daemon the Rogue Prince, Edmure Tully and the High Sparrow
You can't believe that British produced show, uses some of the most famous British actors for a show about the British monarchy?
Jesus..
@@Orcawhale1 Chill bro I am just amazed by it. Its not surprising yeah but its also something cool for me
@@Orcawhale1chill little one 😂😂😂
@@afonsosilvestre7626 That's a ironic statement, considering im not the one, who's using emojii's.
The pool of UK actors is pretty small, my friend.
Please can you reconsider the ridiculously loud music that comes on at the end of your clips
Yeah, it's way too subtle. They should make it louder. 🗣️
Alright grandpa chill. Get a juice back or something.
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DANIEL AKA KEVIN !! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🥱🥱🥱
Agreed. It's obnoxious (like most of the others who've commented on this thread). Volume normalization or at least a fade-in would be fine.
In this scene, with the leverage Blunt had over Philip, it was ludicrously strong, BUT that doesn't take away the sheer, polished, brass cahoonas/balls it took for Blunt to deliver it to Philip. If Blunt didn't have the leverage, I very much doubt he'd have DARED threaten Philip in the slightest, for it would have been a death sentence, I'm sure.
IF the threat took place. this is a drama after all.
@@mariahoulihan9483 I was referring to this scene.
@@SceneArtisan then don;t write like its REAL then.
@@SceneArtisan death sentence..lol.. where is your mind? are you British.. we don't live in Russia you know.
@@mariahoulihan9483 I suppose you think: "In this scene" qualifies it for being real?
Sam West is such a brilliant actor. Love him and how he champions the arts.
Blunt: "To be quite blunt, sir .... "
Philip: . . . . . . .
The way Anthony Blunt turns the table is so well done
I remember and admire this scene for it serving as a very well-written illustration of brinksmanship. That's to take nothing away from Blunt's treachery. Rather, it highlights how carefully we need to handle even those who we believe have no..."out".
went to college and got a bachelors of science in psychology to learn about the human mind. What I learned was, you can’t trust anyone to be truthful with you, not anyone. Least of all, yourself.
He who lives in glass houses or castles should not throw stones
I like this partnership Tobias Menzies and Samuel West, they are brilliant
How Samuel West hasn't played a Bond Villain is criminal.
The first few seconds of this clip made me think they were standing at urinals.
My thought exactly
It was a p*ssing contest of sorts....
@@kenofken9458 hahaaaa, well done sir.
Samuel West played the same role in Cambridge Spies!!
yeah, it's like Michael Sheen playing Tony Blair, or Ian Holm playing Napoleon, in three different movies each.
seems to be the British thing.
@@nitzky8936 and Peter O'Toole playing Henry II in _Becket_ and _The Lion in Winter_ which were unconnected productions.
I never liked Thatcher but I respect how she stood up in Parliament, in 1979, and coolly revealed Sir Anthony Blunt as the Fourth Man.
British spies are often forgiven for helping the Soviets before WWII ended BUT the Nazis & Soviets invaded Poland at the same time,
it was pre-arranged during talks for the Ribbontrop - Molotov Treaty. A non-aggression pact that made many western reds abandon Soviet communism.
So when you hear "I helps Russia because they were the only chance to defeat the Nazis" know that Russia was allied with the Nazis - for the first 2 years Britain fought Germany.
Yes, not many people realise that.
For every thousand TV programs
repeating ad nauseum the crimes of the Nazis,
one might chance upon one
detailing a crime by Communists,
yet the list of the dead, tortured and maimed
by Communists
is probably a thousand to one
against those of the Nazis.
/
exactly why we dont need any western reds
That's right. They used to even trade together quite a bit. Like entire trains full of raw materials and foods. When the nazis attacked apparently Stalin couldn't believe it and he disappeared for 3 days.
@@OffGridInvestor He couldn't believe it because his Intel told him that The Nazi's had no Winter weather gear. It sounded extremely dumb to him because if you read about the WWII Eastern Front...it pretty much was. Even Napoleon couldn't beat Russian Winter.
I too am not a fan of MT but as you rightly say she had guts unlike 99% of politicians then and certainly now.
This scene made me wonder if this version of Prince Phillip called MI6 straightaway to find out if that 007 thing was real & exactly how it works
Keep coming with the crown videos ❤please
I second that
It's funny hearing the phrase "Believe you me" uttered in such a posh accent
I had a great aunt here in Australia, it was like the Australian version of "keeping up appearances". She used to bang out a few "believe you me". Her mother was the daughter of an exceedingly rich gold mining CEO. I kind of wonder if she didn't pick it up from her mother who was from an upper class background.
It's archaic, and posh people are generally conservative about culture, including language, if not other things. Chaucer, Shakespeare, and others occasionally used the v/s/o ordering for imperative emphasis, which is why it is still used.
Everyone in this entire series is bloody brilliant.
A wonderful actor. I liked him better as Siegfried.
A monarchy, such a fabulous modern idea
love what he says in the beginning. crawl away!!
Since when did Blunt look that good? He was a weasel.
This is where I realized the government didn’t want the Royal Family to do anything was cause he had Phillips pictures
The scandal is still being covered up today.
I mean his dead already so there is no point to talk about it
@@adventuresconjuan*he's or he is
Whoa he was involved in what? 😂😅
And you know because you were there?
Can someone spell out what exactly Anthony Blunt is insinuating?
That he has some dirt on Phillip and that it would be best to let each other's secrets lie in the past.
If you recall earlier in the series, when Phillip was still chaffing under the restrictions of royal life and his perceived emasculation by having no kind of real leading role, he spent a lot of time away from the palace carousing with his posh drinking buddies. There was some kind of Wednesday lunch club where these guys would go knock back a few and had the potential for other hanky panky.
Apparently one of the guys in the circle was some osteopath doctor who had some kind of freak off get togethers at his place and Phillip was known to hang out there at times. Whether he actually ever crossed the line and had a fling is a matter of debate, and fortunately for him they didn't have cell phone cameras in those days.
Of course Blunt might be bluffing. Maybe Phillip never did anything truly scandalous and if he did, Blunt may or may not actually have the evidence. On the other hand being a royal was a nightmare of paparazzi looking for a scoop, and anything that might have even put Phillip in personal proximity of a scandal was probably not worth risking.
To expand a little on the previous post, Blunt wasn't just a senior member of the royal staff, he was an MI5 spook who handled some very sensitive matters for the Royal family such as the retrieval of the Marburg files from Germany at the end of WWII. It's said that he had dirt on dozens of senior members of the British establishment and that's why he was never prosecuted for being a double agent for the Soviets.
I can’t believe he was allowed to be next to her after they found out.
As in Anthony BLUNT .. in more ways than one ..
He played the same role in Cambridge Spies.
That's Jonathan Wolverton Randall you're speaking to...
Hi, can someone explain what is happening here?
Google the Profumo Scandal.
It's been rumoured that Prince Phillip was banging Christine Keeler, one of the women at the centre of the Profumo scandal that brought down the MacMillan government.
Keeler had an affair with Secretary of State for War John Profumo at the same time she was engaged in another with Soviet Military Attaché and spy Yevgeny Ivanov creating fears of a major security leak.
No evidence has ever been produced that Phillip was involved with Keeler but if the press had got hold of it at the time, the Profumo scandal would have ballooned into a nightmare of apocalyptic proportions for the British establishment.
HRH Had a darker past than is publicly known. One day, it may be made public, at least in part.
Please tell this Yank what’s been insinuating
Google the Profumo Affair. Prostitutes, Senior government ministers, Soviet spying etc.
Fellow Yank here; had a clue, but still had to look it up. Sorry the explanation is a bit long. Anthony Blunt was Surveyor of the King's (then the Queen's) Pictures from 1945 to 1972. As he maintained the Royal Art collection, he endeared himself to the royal family and was given a knighthood.
He was also a Soviet spy, having been recruited out of university (check out the “Cambridge Five”. It’s fascinating stuff.)
When the truth came out, Britain was already going through a serious scandal (the Profumo Affair, mentioned in the video). Rather than publicize another scandal Blunt was given immunity in return for a confession and help with ongoing investigations. The public wasn’t informed of Blunt’s spy activities, but the royal family was.
In the video, Prince Philip is confronting Blunt over having been a traitor and saying he better watch his step.
Blunt is countering that Philip better watch his step. It was rumored that Prince Philip was involved in the Profumo Affair, and that the osteopath at the center of the scandal had created paintings of Prince Philip, possibly under compromising circumstances.
Blunt is suggesting that he used his art connections to obtain those paintings before anyone could see them and if Philip gives him any trouble he will make the paintings public. This would cause yet another scandal, one that will deeply involve the royal family this time.
Both actors look kind of similar
Blunt was threatening him with painted or drawn portraits, not photos.
and how do you know this. I loved the way he put Phillip in order!
@@andrewskerritt3688 2:00 Philip makes it clear that they are drawings. Blunt doesn't indicate that he has any photos, just subtly threatens to release the portraits.
BTW, I posted this because the video's description claims "Anthony intimidates him stating that compromising photos of a former member of the royal family linked to the Profumo Scandal may come to light."
@@andrewskerritt3688 I remember much of it from years ago in the news. I was a child but got hold of a copy of the News of the World when I wasn't supposed to. i read about it all. I was quite young and Mother was horrified. Dad for you.. bought it every Sunday morning. lol. I also recall reading about Jackie Kennedy.. before JFK was assassinated .. and her overspending as First Lady.. they did a huge piece on it.. what she was spending on clothes in Paris fashion houses and on the doing up of the White House. all big news at the time.. early 1960s. I also remember where I was when news of Kennedy's murder was aired.. watching a newsflash with my parents at home in England. My Father sank into a chair from standing and clearly said to my Mother.. God help us all now that that man is dead. It shook the world.
@@dlxmarks a FORMER member.
@@mariahoulihan9483 And that's the other problem with the video description. Which former member of the royal family was mentioned in their conversation? It was all about threatening Philip.
Siegfried Farnon! ACG&S
And the sad thing is.....The yanks (and most probably alot of british ppl) think this is all real.....
Who are "the yanks"?
@@l.a.3479 google it....
And it’s not? 😅😂
@@curoseba5363 Hollywood had to jazz it up to make it exciting. Theres quite a few falsehoods in this series.
@@catlee8064 The Crown was a British production bro. Don't go blaming foreigners for your own problems.
What did he have on Philip
That's the nature of spy craft. Maybe nothing. Maybe everything. Blunt at the least knew of Phillips association with scandalous affairs at the home of one of his old drinking buddies and insinuated that he had evidence that Phillip was himself involved.
I'm so glad the AI is dealing with porn
Anthony Blunt was definitely a questionable individual, a slimey character. But Philip was an arrogant asshole, so it’s refreshing to see someone shut him up and bend the knee a bit in this scene.
Questionable? An outright traitor
@@johntomlinson6849 True. Yet the whole thing was hushed up for 20 years to avoid scandal. Not necessarily this one, but at least the scandal of someone living in Buckingham Palace being found out to be a traitor.
Boy, isn’t that the truth ….every word you said. The public doesn’t have the real portrait of who Phillip was at all. His arrogance/ elitist personality was utterly disgusting.
certainly not. A very admirable person for all his faults@@gracie3174
@@gracie3174 Rubbish
What did Prince Philip do?! Oh, pray tell here!
He was behind the two way mirror. He liked to watch.
@@Concreteowl NO evidence whatsoever of that. He was so devoted to Her Majesty our Late Queen that I doubt it very much. VERY much.
@@mariahoulihan9483 He had affairs.
@@mariahoulihan9483 Philip was noted for screwing anything that wore a skirt.
@@mariahoulihan9483 Yeah...but....they were married for 73 years. A lot of ups and downs can happen on time scales like that, and especially among the aristocracy where lifelong monogamy was very much the exception rather than the norm. Most marriages at their level were strategic business arrangements more than romantic love. I think they largely did have a strong partnership, but it had it's frictions too.
Whether he indulged or not, a man of his social standing and good looks in his youth certainly would have had endless opportunities to stray had he wanted.
I am so glad I did not pay money to watch this farcical series.
Don't worry:it's your tax money which supports this farcical family
@@ausbrum incorrect old chap. RF generates money.
Yes your majesty....
@@ThePierre58It’s incredible how most people don’t bother looking into how the RF actually functions before they claim it’s a drain on tax payers’ money. The most ardent critics of that venerable institution are often those who understand it the least.
Absolutely, could not have put it better myself. I swore allegiance to serve the Monarch and her heirs and successors. I took that as a lifelong oath.
Royal Marines circa 1980.@@Michel411
Good for Blunt for putting Prince Philip in his place!!!!
you know its a drama, right.. NOT a documentary?
Oh my god, i know what this is about. Prince phillip was inloved with stephen ward and that stephen ward had sexual pictures and fantasy of him and that is what these drawings where about. That is why stephen killed himself. Stephen had a love affair with prince phillip.
Quote:
saying that Blunt "apparently quietly acted on behalf of the royal family to purchase a series of drawings that Stephen Ward... had made of the Duke of Edinburgh."
👩🦲👱♂️👩🦲
Say what now????, so all that "procuring of women" was a red herring form may have actually happened, I dunno about all that that bit then there have been rumors about him and there were wild stuff around Lord Mountbatten
I wish there was a way to dm you somewhere where you go further with this, so where the alleged women a "red herring"
RUBBISH. They didn't come more macho than Prince Philip. You are the one having fantasies.
Good grief. No, that is not what is being discussed in the series.
How utterly boring these gents are. Puffed up personalities in expensive suits. Bah.
They know the country is going to defauf.
A Homosexual threatening a German Prince. How asinine.
The result of centuries of inbreeding among European aristocracy.
lets have a really good look at your family tree shall we? EVERYONE's throws up some dodgy goings on if you look.