Mixing L-mount Lenses between Leica/Panasonic/Sigma
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2019
- With Leica, Panasonic and Sigma all released their L-mount camera after the L-mount alliance was formed last year, I thought it's a good time to get all the L-mount cameras together and see how well do they work with the lenses from another brand. Here is a quick video to show you my results.
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I think the L-Mount from 3 companies is great. Sigma will be the most important player as not all can pay $ 9'000 to 15'000 for a set of three lenses from Panasonic Pro or Leica. When you buy a used Leica SL body now for approx. 2'500 and the best Sigma, you have a powerful set. No need to run around with 47 MP or the last hype.
Excellent video, to the point...just picked up my Leica SL today and am hungry for L-Mount information, just like this! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge...Ron J.
Ronald, Glad it was helpful!
So far the Leica 90mm SL lens and the Sigma 35mm 1.2 and 14-24 2.8 have worked flawlessly on my S1. Of those lenses, I own the Sigma 35mm 1.2 and updating the firmware was easy via a memory card and attached to the body.
I really like how you can update firmware for lens/accessories from different brand so easily!
I finally can relate to your L-mount lens videos! 😁😁😁
Haha yeah you should now! And man you living in the Internet
In case anyone wants to know, Leica S lenses won't autofocus on S1 body with the s to l adapter.
Good to hear the lenses are compatible, thanks. I have a S1R on backorder and I am getting nervous about the lack of Sigma glass for L mount yet. I hope S1 sales will pick up so more native lenses be available since I don't want to use adapters.
I can't say much but more native L mount lenses are definitely coming in 2020!
I recently got the S1 and also got the MC21 adapter. I still have Canon EF lenses and to my surprise they all work with the adapter. Now like many have said before, no AFC and focus is a bit slow. Not terrible. Def not for sports photography. But I am strictly landscape and portrait. So it works for me until they release more lenses...
I have the Lumix S5 with the 20-60 plus the Sigma 14-24 f2.8. i have on order the Sigma 150-600 dg dn. I have no issues using Sigma Lenses. The only downside is the weight in comparison to the Panasonic Lenses, but given the price difference, l can put up with that.
Could you do an in depth comparison for photos taken by these lens (portrait, landscape, creaminess of bokeh, vignette etc.) Couldnt seem to find any video on UA-cam for that.
do you know if the af is good with the sigma 45mm paired with the s1h? Also is af completely silent or is there some stuttering af noise?
great job
There are reviews on Amazon and B&H about customers returning multiple copies of Sigma lenses because they will not AF on Panasonic bodies.
Richard I have the Sigma FP L with the 45mm and just got the Panasonic 24-105mm plus the 70-300mm both work great... just have to add the Panasonic 16-35mm to complete my set up for my Landscape photos.. Jack
Hi Richard, great to know more about L-mount! It would be very interesting if you could show how the lens stabilisation works on the different cameras (video and foto). Especially the Leica SL 24-90 on an S1 (and S1H). It would also be very Interesting if you could show us the stylistic differences (not quality) between the different lenses of all three brands. For example the transition length of the blur of a Leica lens vs. a Sigma lens. Or the native color interpretation of an S1 using a lumix lens vs. a Leica Lens? Is that possible? Thanks for your great effort!
Thank you for the suggestion. I have wrote down and see if there is a chance to do some of them in the future
Richard Wong nice 👍
Do you experience battery drainage faster on SL when the Panasonic lens 50mm is attached? Thank you.
Can't say i have notice it.
Richard I have the SL2-S and am thinking about picking up the 70-200 F4 Lumix Pro lens. I wanted to ask if the 70-200 OIS work in conjunction on the Leica SL2-S bodies as they do with the panasonic's, and if not which would be preferable and give you better compensation, using the OIS on the lens or the IBIS in the Leica?
Hi Bruce, sorry i have not have a chance to try out the SL2-S (and not with the Lumix lens as well) so can't answer most of your questions. But usually for longer focal length, OIS works better than IBIS
appreciate the reply Richard, love your reviews keep up the great work!
One question: do lens profiles auto correct in-camera across brands? I shoot DNG+JPG (small). Not sure how and when new lens profiles are added to firmware or if they are just updated in-camera the first time one mounts a new lens.
It should work across brands
Richard does the MC21 adapter work on the SL/SL2?
Not the SL, but SL2 works
All of them? 😄
Hi Richard, i want to buy a L mount camera but I’m very interested in color difference. For me colors are the key when buying a camera. Do you find differences in color between this 3 cameras? I want to buy the leica sl but I’m not sure if the price difference suposes better colors. Thanks so much!
There is definitely some difference in colour between the Three if you shoot jpg. Unfortunately I don't have any examples to show you the difference
Hi Richard
I own the SIGMA FP and the Panny 24-105 F.4
I think I found a BUG
When switching from still to cine on the SIGMA I lose Auto Focus Function
Then I turn the camera off and back on and everything is fine
Please confirm this is true for you
Best regards, Rick
I don't have the 24-105 with me to test. But will let you know if I got a chance to try that combination next time, or maybe one of the viewer here can also try that out and let Rick know?
How are the skin tones / color tone comparisons ? Thank you
Sorry I haven't really done any controlled comparison of these cameras
What you are saying at 4:12 is actually total showstopper to go for the L system.
That's not uncommon. Sony bodies will disable face detect and eye detect when there is video output.
Hi. Quick questio. On the sl2 can you mount Panasonic S lenses like 24-70, and do you need adapter?
You definitely can!
@@TheRealRichardWong okay. Do you need any adapter ?
No need. Same mount
@@TheRealRichardWong Thank you.
I can report that the sigma 12-24; Panasonic 24-70/2.8 and the Panasonic 70-200/4 all work very well on the SL2
Thanks for the feedback! Good to hear the new lenses are working well!
Richard Wong Now i just wish my M glass was a little sharper on the S2 when compared to the Zooms. I found all my M glass was sharper on my original SL then I do on the SL2.
I am guessing all three battery manufacturers work with the Sigma camera. Does this mean we also have an L-mount-battery alliance?
Bingo! Haha not sure about the battery alliance, but it does suggest the three companies' relationship is probably deeper than we know.
I had heard that the MC-21 isn't compatible with the Leica cameras because no one will buy expensive but native Leica lenses anymore. Is that true? regards Jog
I know the mc21 doesn't work with the SL because the SL was released before the L mount alliance was formed and it was using the original (old) spec. But I don't know about the sl2, I haven't got the mc21 this time when testing the sl2
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks again for another handy video. I was just about to ask if you'd tried the SL2 and the MC-21. It should technically work if they're all compliant with the current protocols and up to date, yet, I know that only lenses and cameras are part of the L Mount Alliance protocols, and so Leica could probably simply block the adaptor without breaching the agreement (though, they allowed Novoflex to have adaptors previously so they're not necessarily against them). It's really the SL2 which is the most telling since it is the first Leica released since the Alliance.
@Alej The MC-21 will probably improve with firmware as the MC-11 did. Sigma can directly change and innovate the protocols of the L mount, whereas they can only subscribe to the E mount and licence to reverse-engineer the EF mount, so not only could the F/W improve, but the protocols themselves could adapt when the Alliance approve one another's updates. Another factor is simply that most reflex lenses are designed for a different focus mechanism - some of the newer reflex lenses are designed with these in mind, and that's probably why Sigma only officially supports the ART/Sports/Contemporary lenses (and among those the 2017+ lenses are probably faster.)
Hello which battery give best battery life please make video
Do you mean the leica Panasonic and Sigma?
Yes .. but frist you can test sigma fp with 3 battery with best setting
Sigma battery?
Oh I am so wrong lol
are they same size ?
Sorry what size are you referring to?
@@TheRealRichardWong i mean size of len mount
@@TheRealRichardWong ex: lumix s5 can use Leica-L mount ?
@@some-thing-2024 yes, Lumix (panasonic), Sigma and Leica all uses the same L-mount for their full frame cameras
One thing I would like to know is whether the OIS on the Leica lenses (eg 24-90) works on an S1 to provide additional stabilisation to the in-camera. Thanks!
Hi Steve, Not that I know of.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for getting back to me Richard.
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Jared Polin hi
2021 update... Leica reps told me Sigma and Panasonic lenses don't work as well on my Sl2 because they have "different power requirements." This causes my Sl2 to be forced out of any multi shot mode over 3 fps once the battery his 75% or less. That's extremely disappointing. The L-mount alliance isn't living up to its claims.
That’s because, even though it was Leica’s idea to invite Sigma and Panasonic to the party, they still look down on the other two. If you notice watching Leica people like Red Dot etc they never talk about Panasonic and Sigma lenses. Like we can all afford £3,500 for a 50mm f2 apo when you can get the Panasonic equivalent for £450… and you will be hard pressed to notice the difference.
Leica are basically snobs… like a kid who invited their two mates to the party but changed their mind as they’re gonna get all the girls.