So You Want To Play Pathfinder: Wrath Of The Righteous (New Player's Guide)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Going over some of the essentials you should know about the game that will help you get through!
Crusade Overview: • Pathfinder: Wrath of t...
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:44 Difficulty
00:21:02 Character Creation
00:40:02 Mythic Paths Overview/Unlocks
00:59:29 Combat Basics
01:15:03 Spellcasting
01:29:15 Metamagic
01:38:52 Curing Common Status Effects/Debuffs
01:46:48 Wrap Up/Stuff I Didn't Cover/Final Thoughts
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You know a game is going to be fairly simple & straightforward when the new player guide is almost 2 hours long...
@@yaldabaoth2it is a joke.
@@yaldabaoth2 there’s a whole rules lite segment of the gaming world that would call that claim into question. I’m enjoying the Kingmaker game enough that I’m probably rolling right into this one when I finish, but outside of a video game, the closest I’m coming to PF is the PF for Savage Worlds books. I respect a lot of their worldbuilding and design, but absent a computer doing much of the book-keeping for me, I’m not touching their system itself with a standard-issue 10 foot pole anymore. My tastes have just shifted away from the simulationist side of the hobby.
That’s not to say rules-heavy games shouldn’t exist. PF, GURPS, and the like appeal to a set of gamers that deserve to have their wants met just the same as all the people playing Fate or PbtA should theirs, but acting like any move towards streamlining is a move towards an apocalypse for the industry is pretty farcical. Hell, PF’s origin was an act of streamlining, keeping what people liked about 3.X D&D, streamlining what they didn’t (I played a ton of 3.5, and not once did I roll up a cleric without at least 1 divine meta magic feat once those hit the table b/c those rules were a mess I had no interest in dealing with for example, or CMB/CMD vs D&D’s system), and not throwing the baby out with the bath water (as many felt 4e did).
He does go pretty in depth on a lot of subjects in the vid though. If you are familiar with crpg’s most the learning curve isn’t that bad. I only played dos2 before this and I think I got a good grasp on the game after act I.
@@yaldabaoth2 isn't elden ring already an easy game by your logic? A watered down Rpg if you will.
@@yaldabaoth2 Absolutely not, this game is the perfect example of: How to NOT adapt a TTRPG into a video game, because unless you have extensive knowledge of said TTRPG, you can basically do nothing.
It's important to remember in all tabletop RPGs "The rule of fun" Don't stick to any rule that isn't fun for you.
Word
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That's why I don't play Pathfinder.
@@GetterRay nobody forced you to play it 🥹
That rule doesn't apply to a video-game stimulating the game. Otherwise I would have dipped after act 1 and charged into the worldwound solo or more than likely live and never come back. My gm would hate me but they can't name a campaign that hasn't gone off the rails.
If you are reading this Justin do you remember the half of year we spent trying to start a tavern/brothel/ale house instead of stopping the tyrant king. FYI we finally killed the king by sending him a working girl to poison him because our establishment became so renowned and high class. To quote Justin "I am immensely disappointed most of my story went to waste" but it was fun tho
As someone who has played divinity and wasteland 3 thanks to Morty, so far the most difficult part of this game is figuring out how and what to use to buff yourself before battle. There are so many spells my goodness, the games story and dialogue and scenery is absolutely amazing, this is one heck of a high quality game
Fujin!
@@vaporsaver Fuji! 💜
I have played RPGs all my life, but not typically traditional D&D, although I know how it works. I came here cause I couldn't figure out what to do once i level up, let alone gave up trying to create a character.
Agree for the most part, but I think there's way too much dialogue. Every minor NPC will blurt out paragraph after paragraph of needlessly long-winded fluff.
They could've conveyed the point of most conversations in half the amount of words.
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 I finished the game about two weeks ago, oh man after about 85% into the game, I kinda wanted it to be over. The ending is beautiful storytelling, but man it was just way too long. I finished it on the ps4 and let me tell ya, the loading screens were BRUTAL. I think more than 20% of my 100 hour playtime was loading screens
I work a roughneck job. My coworker taught me a trick...puttin my phone inside my hardhat. I can hear everything even with ear protection on. Thank you for this
"Remove condition on rest" options, plus the one to remove conditions after combat were the options that made this game enjoyable for me
I also add in dead companions rise after combat. Anything that forces me to stop what I'm doing and take care of something because an enemy got a lucky roll detracts from the fun. Conversely, I also set enemy stats and difficulty to normal and 1.0, throw in more enemies and more behaviors to offset the fact that I'm making the game easier with my other choices. All of that puts the game in a sweet spot for me. Very enjoyable without being too hard or too easy.
I played on core and about a third of the way through I went in and changed this to on… “Removing conditions on rest” saved me soooo much time the rest of the way through.
@@fartloudYT in kingmaker I had issues but if you explore a tiny bit and have a proper built healer the only real issue you have is running out of death ward
taking care of status conditions kinda falls out of the scope of the campaign, you're a commander of a crusade with access to the kingdom's resources and thousands of people under your banner. Curing a status condition shouldn't be a problem unless it's some kind of a curse outside of the capabilities of the kingdom's best healers.
The problem is that is kind of stupid in a Game where 99.9% of shit does Conditions/Status and there are Million Encounters. Unlimited Resurrection is bad n00b cheese though. The Time Limit thing is also Bad Prehistoric Gimmick that no one needs in a +100 Hour Hardcore Crpg in 2022. Owlcat dropped the Ball Hard on that one when doing Kingmaker.
There is a certain flare of sincerity in all of your reviews man. After beating BG3 I decided to look back and play one of the CRPG’s I missed out on and just every video you put out is so informative. Really appreciate it.
Man, to be honest I would totally watch a 4 hour video of you going through every class in the game. I am reasonably experienced with the pathfinder TTRPG and have over 200 hours played in WotR but I still learned a lot.
Get these feats and auto win basically: shake it off, combat reflexes, seize the moment(don't get doesn't stack with outflank), outflank = auto win basically
@@Frey12 Don't you need to get these on all your characters, or at least the front line ones...?
@@Nostromo2144 Correct and they are totally worth it. Actually, drop seize the moment as it apparently doesn't stack. And Shake it off needs at least 4 characters. However, pets count and pets can get teamwork feats after level 4. so one pet being ridden and you can automatically always be outflanking and on crit both pet and character can attack of opportunity. Shake it off is a personal choice as its up to 4 saves and with a +6 resistance cloak you basically have +10 saves with a single item and one feat which i think is worth it.
After you get outflank, you need to try and get 18-20 crit threat range, then you get improve crit weapon at level 9/11. You start criting every 4th attack. If your entire team is melee and you have pets thats anywhere from 8 to 9 attacks after one party member crits. (My current team has 5 pets 6 melee)
For someone who's tried to start 4/5 playthroughs in the past year on PC but bounced off everytime, I can't describe how MASSIVE of a help this video is. Was always looking for something akin to this. Thank you so much!!! ❤️❤️
This was like an answer to my prayers. Started playing yesterday, and this was exactly what I was looking for. When I saw it on my youtube feed this morning I was like how did i miss this?! Until i realized you just released it. Thanks so much for the great content as always.
Enjoy!
Both games are enjoyable (to me) - Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous. Own both.
They also have a Warhammer 40K (Rogue Trader) CRPG game as their next offering. Though I hope Owlcat isn't done with the Pathfinder world too.
@@marchuitt I have a guess that they're going to come back with the Pathfinder 2E ruleset next time they make a PF game, and I really hope it comes true because I love the 3-action economy combat rules.
It's clear why 5E and BD3 were unusual successes in the RPG industry, simplicity goes a long way attracting people to these systems.
Thank you for what you said at 3:23. I am so tired of people telling me I am not real gamer, because I prefer easy/story difficulty. The mythic path guides were really useful, especially the devil. Now I will not run around panicking with my current character, looking everywhere on the map and not understanding why I cannot find it (I chose to be a lich for the first ascension).
I usually don't comment on videos, because of how needlesly rude people can be. But! you are always so respectful (and informative), that I felt, it is safe the join the discussion. If I ever work up the courage, I might comment on some of your other videos. < 3
Dont let them discourage you. I mostly play on harder difficulties but for me there are few games I just wanna play for fun or for the story. What comes to mind right now is Resident Evil Series where I dont wanna deal with a single zombie that can take whole extended magazine and still fuckin survive. Its your game no game is perfect and there are bugs/glitches/shitty hitboxes. And especially game like this where everything is just random (which is the reason I dont play those type of rpg games because I cant stand the rng). Play how you want thats why the devs put the difficulties into their games.
Keep in mind, these are derived from tabletop RPGs. That means these games are *meant* to have a Dungeon Master, and a good DM is constantly tweaking the difficulty of the game to fit what the tone of the session calls for. When you are playing a solo CRPG like PF: WotR, that responsibility falls on your shoulders.
tbh even if i cant realy understand it (maybe bcs i actually play the table top) there is no shame in playing the game on low difficulty just to enjoy the story.
@@thomascheckie2394 Very good point.
Especially the pathfinder games can be so funny to play on lower difficulty. I've beaten the game on hardest difficulty without to much problems since I spend literally days on creaating min/max builds and exploiting everything. But since finishing it once I'm just playing on normal or casual mode and make really funny jank builds. There are so much funny builds than those who spent the first 2 minutes on every map to just cast the buffs on every character. Especially since the classes have a very different power level and classes like the swort saint have special abilities that deal with the problems you have on the highest difficulty.
For poison: you can suppress the effects of poison with delay poison. It will usually expire by the time the spell is over. Even better: preventively using delay poison makes a character immune to poison and that spell lasts a long time.
Great video! Would love an 'Intermediate player's guide' to help cover the mid and high levels of the game, and what's important to success at that part of the game. Low level PF plays a lot like DnD, and the concepts are simple, but once you get to level 10 or so, and you have so many abilities and levels to play with, it's hard determine what's important and not important.
It's worth mentioning that taking *only* "several days" to put together a video that is almost two hours long, well scripted (or well-spoken if not necessarily scripted), engaging, and informative, is an absolute triumph of focus. Thanks for putting this together - I remain 'on the fence' about this game after watching this video, but it was tremendously helpful, and an excellent indicator of what I'm in for should I take the dive. Sub-earning content right here, to be sure!
By default, this game runs in real time with pause mode. Playing as that, I found this game quite hard even on normal dificulty. Changing it to turn based mode made the game A LOT easier. And the most curious thing about this is the fact that A LOT of skills/spells that seemed to be useless while playing the game in real time, became increadible usefull while playing on turn based. Certainly because the pathfinder system was built to be played in turns, so, not all skills/abilities/spells would translate well in a real time scenario.
Aiming area spells in real time is a bitch.
I still love the Chaos of Real Time in these Games. It's Perfect for People that already know the Game inside and out and exploiting A.I.
Holy. There are a lot of things I wish I could experience again...going through that learning curve of WOTR is not one of them. Nonetheless a glorious video that will aid the beleaguerd masses in their struggles, thank you!
After struggling with Pathfinder for a while, I stumbled upon this video and it helped me a lot. Now I have completed the game and it's become one of my favorites, so thanks for making it easier for some of us :)
Great video! As someone who used to wait for a console release I can imagine how happy I'd be finding such video around the time I'm about to play the game. Thank you very much. Watching even though I already learned most of this
I’m a veteran of the system and I always watch these videos because sometimes there are little details I miss. Like extra enemies giving more xp, I hadn’t even considered it (though it obviously makes sense.) I also keep an eye on them as easy crash courses for table top players. Obviously not all applicable but a lot of the mechanical stuff is the same.
You're the man!!! I tried out kingmaker. Got most of the way through but after learning more about the game realized I'd messed up my main character and some companions. This tutorial has been unbelievably helpful. Thank you so much
This is a FANTASTIC video! I’ve watched your channel for a long time, starting with your DOS2 content, and I know you have the same love for WotR. I’m not familiar with the Pathfinder system so I’ve been overwhelmed with all of the mechanics, keeping me from really enjoying the game, but this guide is exactly what I needed. Thanks dude and congrats on the recent YT successes so far!
Just bought this game today and it's quite overwhelming. So much classes and features. Definitely glad i found this video to help understand the features.
Thank you for this very informative and easy to understand video! I started playing WotR a couple weeks ago without knowing the pathfinder system, and now I feel like I could probably change the difficulty to daring, and that’s mostly because I’ve been watching your videos on classes, combat, spellcasting etc. Subscribed, of course!
I watched all these compiled videos before and still an absolute joy to watch this one; I can’t get enough of this game and I have a couple more mystic path play throughs left for the definitive edition 🎉
This is amazing, been keeping an eye on this game for awhile. This will be my first pathfinder so this is incredibly helpful.
Good luck. I've taken part-time semester modules that are less complicated than this game.
@@windblownleaf6450 So true haha!
This video actually made me feel better about dying hopelessly time and time again. I picked a core difficulty thinking this is how the game is supposed to be played and I regularly run into situations that easily, if do not kill the entire party outright, kill at least 1 or 2 characters. And ress scrolls/diamonds are a royal pain to bring and use.
If this game is not designed to be playable purely on good tactics and choices, and you are left on the mercy of the RNG, then I am fine with lowering the difficulty without hurting my pride.
The annoying thing about Core difficulty is that it's the base pathfinder rules (or as close to it as possible) as you said. However, enemies are scaled up to be as much as twice or higher the CR they would be in tabletop (plus they get other bonuses too!). I originally went with Core difficulty when playing the game and was shocked to see how much more powerful everything I fought was compared to what I was familiar with. It's like they expected people to save scum and minmax like crazy and designed encounters around that.
So, if you want to play using the base rules (normal crits, 100% damage taken), but don't want to deal with massively buffed enemies, it takes some research and knowledge to craft a custom difficulty.
That is sadly an issue with pathfinder in general in my experience.
It is built around min-maxed cheese, to the point of min-max or die.
@@tomleary508 That's 3.5e in a nutshell.
Dude I can't remember ever seeing someone demonstrate different difficulties so well. Excellent👍
Late to the party here. I've never made it past chapter 3, basically I've found that I want to do something different. Many of you can relate. But now, my current play through, for the first time I'm using turn-based combat. I find this to be much more fun AND now many of the Feats and stats make sense. Initiative, Movement Base, Quick Draw etc etc make sense and have their uses!
Oh my goodness has [your gift giving holiday of choice] come early? Thank you for this!
Great video! I've been following you since the game's release last year so I've watched most of your WOTR videos already, but I think this is a great resource for new players. Hopefully this will become the definitive new player's guide for the game (and get your channel some more much deserved exposure).
Wow, what an amazing piece of work! Thank you for this sir!
I honestly wouldn’t mind a class guide even though you brought it up in the end I would love to know any niche you found with other classes. More knowledge is always better. Thanks for your hard work!
Even tho I love this CRPG games and I'm actually playing WOTR right now.
God, the entry to these kind of games is hardcore af, a 2 hour video guide om how to start the game is honestly crazy.
Late to the party, about to buy the game on sale and found this a good intro course.
I remain very impressed with your ability to deliver concise information with minimal spoilers!
Thanks for this, I had planned to watch your earlier stuff on WotR before the console release, this is a bonus. I had put Kingmaker aside for a bit while I cleared Solasta (the kingdom management was becoming a bit much in Kingmaker, I've automated it since last night), but have now thrown myself back into it and hope to clear it in time for WotR. Many thanks again, this will help so much.
Excited to try this finally on PlayStation. I hope it clicks with me😁 Your videos are so helpful, keep it up! ✊🏽
26:00 "Going to bring up a tab and if you don't know what you're looking at means nothing". lol, exactly why I'm here. I love these complex games and it's a joy trying to figure everything out.
Thanks for your guide, it's enjoyable thus far and I expect to really appreciate the next 80 minutes as I delve into this game. Thanks again.
Thank you for your detailed and practical guides! It saves even experienced gamers a bit of headache when first diving into this system.
Fantastic. I've been waiting for you to put out a console video tip. You've easily become my favourite RPG channel. Thanks again for a console dedicated video. I know I'm going to be completely lost at the start and your videos are all saved.
Man you're amazing! I'm waiting for a console release and this is going to be a life saver. I remember playing Kingmaker, I was so lost and the game was incredibly confusing for me for like 20-30 hours until I felt comfortable playing and ended up restarting it. You are going to help many people, including me. Thank you so much for your work and I hope you're feeling better!
September 2 for Ps4 release
@@joeymacaroni4498 I think you meant 29th
Correct. It got delayed.
omfg that's too long
@@joeymacaroni4498 only moved from the beginning to the end of the month. Tbh I would rather they don't release it until it runs well. I couldn't finish kingmaker as kept crashing every 10mins in the last act. I ended up rage quitting and watched the ending on YT. I was playing it on my ps5 as well. After originally giving up on my PS4 Pro due to the load times, but the ps5 sped that up drastically.
Listening to this at work. Getting super pumped to take on Pathfinder's hardest boss, character creation.
Thank you so much for this! WoTR has been the next game I'll be playing and this is super helpful.
Amazing quality and amazing efforts. Thank you!
I already sunk 300+ hours into the game, so there was not too much new information. Still concise, interesting, and I still learned a few new things. Always a pleasure.
Thanks! Was looking for a super deep guide, appreciate it
Such a complex games requires such an in depth video made by the wotr goat himself.
Thank you for this! I've not had great luck getting into the Pathfinder games but maybe I should give this one a try again.
Brought the game when it was release, brought all the DLC but i could never finish Act 2 because there are too many things that I don't understand in the game and I'm relying too much on YT guides, This Video really helps learning about the basics and In my next Run of the game I have more understanding on whats more happening and try to play without always consulting on online guides, Thank You!!
Thanks for the guide! Finally got this game after really enjoying Kingmaker. I appreciate you mentioning how it’s okay to play on any difficulty. I’d actually rather play on casual or even normal than story but. I remember some encounters in Kingmaker being bullshit for me even on story, and I’d rather have fun and get the story. I can always replay on a higher difficulty later
Personally I'm a big fan of the long form video essay format (My usual vids that I run in the background are from Joseph Anderson, Neverknowsbest, PatricianTV, to name a few), so seeing your first hour+ video is very gratifying to me.
You normally 100% games, so I always felt like you probably have more to say in many of the past videos and just edited it all down to 30min- because "that's normal". But I can see you making hour long videos and use every minute well, so, for me, it was always a pity to see your videos "cut short".
Finally bought this today (Series S) after researching for a good while. I must say it’s awesome so far! 2 of the 4 hours I’ve spent thus far were in the character creator haha So much to see an read about!
I knew most of the info given, but this was still helpful and very easy to follow. Good video.
This is the first game in this genre i have ever played. I have only played a few hours and was completely overwhelmed this really made in a lot easier to understand. Thank you so much
This is exactly why I am here as well😄
Play divinity original sin 2 ....that game is on
Same
I just started playing the game (thanks to your channel), thank you for this video!
Incredible video, so much valuable info!
Great guide to pathfinder. From what I've seen, they did a phenomenal job replicating this campaign to video game orm
Thank you this is helping my brother get into the game and it’s a great refresher for me and makes me wana go give kingmaker another try
This video is an absolute masterpiece, keep up te great work :)
Meta Magic helped me so much! Thank you!
Thank you for your amazing guide, just bought the game and this video comes pop into my mind first
Congrats on 70k, your channel rocks
Good stuff, nicely delivered.
Hey I have been trying to get WotR lately and this has been super helpful. Thanks!
Great video. Its obvious that you put a lot of effort just so you can help and get new people into the game.
I LOVE the interface design of the character creation screen, I wish there was a website like that for PF2e resources
It's likely my "I'm on the fence about Pathfinder" comment on another video didn't spur this video, but the timing is impeccable!
I love WOTR! Thank you for putting this guide together in a clear and comprehensive way. The metamagic section was very helpful. As always, the content you produce continues to be informative.
holy wakamolee! thats damn detailed guide, thans Mortismal :D
This is very informative. Thank you.
watching your video thinking of getting this game for my birthday thank u for putting out content likr this for us all.
Your speech about the difficulty is really meant a lot to me.. because i always play normal and sometimes i feel stupid after looking people playing in hard or above mode.. 😂😂 thanks
This game is just amazing. The game where you are the Boss. I play crpgs since 90s, and i played a fair share of games until now. My favorite ones are fantasy rpg genre. Through that time until now there were some really amazing games to play and for me this one tops the cake. Pathfinder WOTR is so well done its unreal, no other game i played was done in such a way. You can feel its made by fans of DnD and roleplaying. Finished my first playthrough in about 250 hours, as a good guy legend. It made me think about all other games i played before that werent done with such quality. I really hope Owlcat raises the bar for everyone. Im currently going through Kingmaker and i must say its up there with WOTR, unreal games with such replay value. The depth you can go with builds, classes, ways of playing . I have never seen it before. Whoever is thinking of playing WOTR, play Kingmaker first, thats just my advice. Even though the games are not connected. In the first one you play to become a king, then in the second one you become a legend, divine being, demon... there are many other paths to take. With Larian, Owlcat became my favorite game developer, their next one will probably be even better than WOTR...
I’m a huge noob with Pathfinder but I’m trying this one out. I don’t understand what’s so fun about 1,000 options and stats to tinker around with in character creation.
But maybe soon, I’ll love 1,000 options and stats to tinker around with in character creation.
OK, I've just picked this up for PlayStation. Fingers crossed, here goes!
jumping into this game after beating baldurs gate 3, thankfully this guide is here to help
Here for your excellent takes. And the game is excellent.
As a console player glad you are thinking of us
Bought the game on sale last night and my first character is a Half-Orc Mutation Warrior....super excited to give it a go!
This video is a masterpiece ♥ Much love sir!
Great timing. I bought PF WOTR at the last Steam sale but been scared to try it as I’ve only play D&D 5e so far. After this I’ll finally give it a go. Thanks.
And i thought the Dark Souls series was the most cryptic and confusing (yet fun) game to play.
Thanks for this guide, it's certainly invaluable and highly appreciated!
Thank you for uploading this video, as a casual D&D enjoyer it was overwhelming the character creation, I created a human cleric and decided not to show the flaming sword to the village and now I feel guilty, hopefully after this video I'll get a better grasp
Thanks, this is exactly what I need as a new player.
Thanks for the tips I've played Kingmaker but this helpful both for changes and because it's been awhile since I played the last game.
Extremely well done gonna book mark that one 😜 thank you very much.
thank you, am excited for the game.
I respect your hustle brother.
Favorite. Thanks !
Great video! Thanks
this is a godsend, thanks so much for this video
This is nice. I'm gonna be playing soon myself.
Perfect timing, I was about to start it
Wow the timing, just got this and I am feeling lost. Not going to lie, its a bit of a rough start for me but I hope with the insight from your video I will better appreciate/understand the game lol. Thank you for your work!
Finished my first game an hour ago. Paladin/Aeon. Very bittersweet ending for true Aeon. Awesome game!
I love this video! Thank you so much for all the time and thought you put into it. I’ve already watched it twice haha. I wonder will you make more of these? Would it be too similar to do a video like this for the first Pathfinder Kingmaker?
This mostly applies to Kingmaker as well, same system just more stuff in WotR
Pathfinder wotr, is important to me as well op. Seem like a good dude just trying to help others enjoy this wonderful game. Keep making content. You've earned this sub.
I have played Kingmaker but never felt like I mastered the game. And this game seems to have alot of new things. It's perfect to have this for console release :)
Favorite DnD style rpg. Its everything i imagined a tabletop game being from the rule set to the incredible art style. BALDUR'S GATE III is awesome but i have to play it on easiest level currently to get the satisfaction and intuitive gameplay i get from the very start with PATHFINDER: WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS. Incredible time for the genre and one can only imagine what is to come.
Thanks for the incredible guides. Truly you are a most generous master of CRPGs ☕
I ve been searching for a reason to buy this game as it seems a bit daunting at first, now i ve got a reason thanks mate