The Etruscan Language. what was it?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In this video you will learn about the Etruscan Language a non-Indo European Language from pro-Roman Italy. Here you will get some of its history, but much more about how the language works and what it looked like, along with what we have left of it from the pre-Roman Era. If you want to learn about the history of the Etruscan People, here is a video for you about this: • The Etruscan people an...
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Etruscan was not an isolated language at all. It was closely related to Rhaetic and Lemnian, forming its own language family, the Tyrsenian Family.
It would seem so, yes.
Lemnian comes from etruscans colonists. Before, thracians lived there and before that it was one of the last mycenean greek places, based on material culture found there.
As stated in the vid!
is it possible Minean was also part of this family?
@@Slashplite if you mean minoan, not very likely. But etruscan seems to have some influences from hattian. For example, the hattian word for throne is zilat, the etruscan word for consul is zilath.
Excellent! You can easily pronounce the Etruscan "ch" sound like in "zichuche" ("he wrote"), as you pronounce Ll in Welsh! I am aware that the Latins "inherited" so much of the Etruscan culture and showed no gratitude to them (Romans willingly destroyed the oeuvre by Emperor Claudius about Etruscan history and language). Etruscans had come from Anatolia long before Rome was even a place. I was born in Bologna, Italy, and when I learned that it was an Etruscan settlement named Phelsina, I did feel the Etruscan soul shine through the centuries 😊 Thank you!
I'm glad I could make you feel pride about your birthplace.
Dear Ahav, the city where you were born is not exactly an Etruscan city, but a Pelasgian one. Pelasgian or more correctly pel-asg-ian, is a proto-turkic tribe whoe are relatives of Etruscans. Pel means white, asg is sak (plural of as tribe) and -ian is a suffix meaning human. So Pelasgian means 'white as man'. thank you.
@@hakan.yaziciand do you know who are the descendants of Pelasgians?
@@ginaibisi777 the Welsh and the Belgians and the Polish
@@hakan.yazici you Turkish peoples comes in Turkey TODAY much much later,..you know pretend are etruscan...??...in BYthnia Old Turkey were ilirians peoples....the Old iliria was from Venezia Italy till Isle crete greece and BYthnia Turkey TODAY.....the Turkishs TODAY are black peoples but the etruscan were White peoples..
Thank you Ben, that is very interesting
Cheers Tedi
How interesting the word used for gods, Aesir is the name of the gods in the Norse Yggdrasil tree that live in the realm of Asgard
Fascinating internationalism.
Talitha sounds like the Aramaic word for little girl in the Bible. The name Tabitha means gazelle another Aranaic word.
Ashera
Aesir
🤔
In another video I watched tonight about the Etruscan people, they said the Etruscans were Celtic and also Aegean. I think some of their letters look like "Linear A" that has not been deciphered because no one can figure out what language it is, even though they know the sounds the letters make.
@@ellen4956 Do you have the link to the video?
Talitha means damsel in Aramaic
Interesting
@Ben Llywelyn
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Dardanians (Troy is here ,not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians, Etruscan. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia …….
Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
Interesting video.
However, the way of pronouncing the Etruscan letters TH, PH, CH and Z does not match up with English.
The Etruscans clearly distinguished between aspirated and non-aspirated consonants (either with- or without a puff of air)
The TH was a hard T like in "Tip", not the th-sound as in "Think"
PH was a hard P like in "Pack", not the PH or f-sound as in "Phrasebook" or "Film".
CH was a hard K, too. Like the k-sound in "King".
The letter Z was most likely a TS-sound as in "Bits" and not like the z in "Zoo".
They didn't even used the letter "O". In borrowings from Greek they changed all the O's to "U". Thus Apollo became Apulu or Aplu. Prometheus became Prumathe etc.
Fun fact: the Etruscan name for "girl" was borrowed from the Semitic languages (Aramaic) "Talitha".
The Semitic expression used by Jesus Christ at the time he resurrected Jairus’ daughter. It means, “Maiden, I say to you, Get up!” ("Talitha Koum" in Aramaic" (Mark 5:41).
Thank you
It’s normal because there ancestry was from Aegean See that’s why they have to do more research with proto semetic languages
@@armandemsha1976 There's definitely a lot yet to be learned about the Estrucans and their language.
Most of the present day theories are based on other authors rather than etruscan themselves.
I think it's a bit hazardous to conclude anything based on a single semitic word.
One thing we know for sure is that Etruscan had a significant amount of Greek loanwords which states a Greek/Aegean adstrate influence.
The bronze age world was probably a lot more diverse, interconnected and complex that we might think.
The biggest problem in my opinion is that almost every scholar so far had tried to figure out the whole puzzle single-handed rather than joining forces with a team of geologists, historians, and linguists in order to establish a broader, coherent and detailed picture on the subject.
That fact has been giving up room to major risks in form of misconceptions, guesswork, prejudice due to individual perception, bias and nationality rather than on a deeper fact-based and objective perspective.
@@level442FM I agree with you
Interesting. Very similar pronunciation to romanian consonants. We also have tz sound written Ț. And we also use a lot of "u" vowels instead of "o" vowels.
Also Lemnos is almost like romanian word lemn (wood). At least a hundred years ago romanians didn't use the word pădure for forest instead they used the word lemn for pădure.
Etrüskler Adiğelerden çok uzak bir coğrafyada, İtalya’da yaşamış bir ilk çağ kavmi. Haklarında ayrıntılı bir bilgiye sahip değiliz çünkü henüz dilleri ve yazıları tam olarak çözülebilmiş değil. Tarih onları M.Ö ikinci binde birden bire İtalya kıyılarında ortaya çıkmış, gelişmiş şehirler kurmuş, özgün bir yazı ve farklı bir kültür geliştirmiş sonra esrarengiz bir şekilde tarih sahnesinden silinmiş bir kavim olarak yazıyor. Tarihe en büyük etkileri de Roma medeniyetinin oluşumuna kaynaklık etmeleri. Ayrıca soyadı sistemini ilk kullanan halk olmaları, mimaride kemer ve kemerli tavanı keşfetmeleri, şehircilik alanındaki yetenekleri, kadının ilk çağ toplumlarında benzeri görülmeyecek şekilde ayrıcalıklı bir yere sahip olması onlara ait sayabileceğimiz bazı özelliklerdir.
Etrüsk adının etimolojisini inceleyenler onu “Turs” kelimesine dayandırarak Yunanca “Tyrsenos” sözcüğüyle ilişkilendirmeye çalışıyorlar. Fakat bu kanı kesin hüküm teşkil edecek kadar kuvvetli değil. Kelimenin orijinini “Türk” adında arayanlar bile var ama bu da bilimsellikten uzak bir varsayım.
Onlar hakkında ilk tarihi verileri Herodot’ta bulabiliyoruz. Tarihin babası sayılan bu büyük düşünüre göre Lidya kralı Ates devrinde ülkede büyük bir kıtlık baş gösterir ve Lidya halkının yarısı denizi geçerek Umr ilinde yurt tutarlar. Gittikleri yerde on iki şehir kuran bu halk başkanları Turs’un adıyla anılırlar. Etrüskler işte bu göçmenlerin çocuklarıdır. Yine Herodot’tan öğrendiğimize göre İtalya’nın ilk medeni sakinleri olan Etrüskler on iki kola ayrılıyor, komşu kavimlerden farklı ve zor bir dil kullanıyorlar. Toplumsal yapıları özgün bir aristokrasi sergiliyor. Demir ve bakır işlemedeki maharetleri onları kısa zamanda çevrelerindeki halklara karşı baskın kılıyor. En bariz özellikleri de kadınların erkeklerle aynı haklara sahip olmaları, köle edinebilmeleri, yönetici olmaları, kadın yaşantısındaki renklilik, kadın giyim şekli ve makyaj tarzında kendisini gösteriyor. Etrüskler bu özelliklerinden dolayı çağdaşları olan Yunanlılar tarafından eleştirilmekte, kınanmaktaydılar.
Herodot’tan dört asır sonra yaşayan Halikarnaslı Dionis, Etrüsk ve Lidya halkı arasında töre ve dil benzerliği olmadığı gerekçesiyle onların küçük Asyalı olma ihtimalini reddeder ve onların İtalya’ya kuzeyden gelmiş olduğunu savunur. Dionis’e göre Etrüskler kendilerine “Rasena” diyor. Bu kelime Adiğe dilinin fonetik bilgisi ışığında incelendiğinde “-ina” ekinin Adiğece’de dişillik ifade ettiği ortaya çıkar. Adiğece kadın isimleri genellikle “-ina” ekiyle biter. Barina, Kurina, Jane, Satenay vs gibi. Etrüskçe kadın, eş manasına kullanılan kelimenin “puina” olması da ayrı bir ilginçlik.
Dil
Etrüskler’in İtalya’nın otokton halkı olmadığı kesinleşmiş bir gerçek onlar nereden geldiler ve nereye gittiler sorusuna cevap teşkil etmek üzere çeşitli varsayımlar ileri sürülmüş ama en fazla kabul gören iddia Thompson adlı bir tarihçi tarafından “On the Officites of the Etrusk Language” adlı eserde dile getiriliyor. Thompson’a göre Etrüskler ancak ve ancak Kafkasyalı olabilir. Bir diğer Etrüsk araştırmacısı Trombeti de bu varsayımı gerçekçi buluyor. Büyük filolog Georges Dumesil ise Roma uygarlığında harcı olan üç etnisiteyi Latinler, Etrüskler ve Sabinler olarak adlandırırken Etrüsk söylenceleriyle Kafkas destanları arasında çekinerek de olsa bağlantılar kurmaya çalışır.
Bu tarz düşünen bilim adamlarının temel hareket noktası Etrüsk ve Adiğe dili arasındaki enteresan benzerlik. Etrüskçe büyük ölçüde çözülememiş bir Avrupai dil. İndo-Cermen dil ailesinden olması kuvvetle muhtemelse de bazı yönleriyle bu gruptan ayrılıyor. Filologların Azyanik dediği Kafkas dil ailesiyle benzeşen yönleri var. bugünkü Latin alfabesinin temelini teşkil eden Etrüsk alfabesinde dördü sesli yirmi harf var. isim ve sıfatlarda erillik dişilli özellikleri görülüyor. Suffix (sonek) ağırlıklı bir dil ve prefix (önek) pek yok. Sessiz harfler dile hakim ve (tl) gibi özgün sesler var. M.Ö ikinci yüzyıla doğru çözülmeye başladığını gördüğümüz Etrüskçe M.S 7-8. Yüzyılda tamamen yok olduğuna göre hemen ardından yarımadayı saran İtalyanca’yı etkilememesi mümkün görünmüyor.
Adiğece’yi ele aldığımızda ise bu dilin tüm lehçelerinde elliye yakın ses olduğunu ( harf değil, ses ) ancak dört adet sesli harfin kullanıldığını görüyoruz. Telaffuzunun güçlüğü ve özgün seslerin fazlalığı bu dilin yazıyla ifade edilmesini zorlaştırıyor. Bildiğimiz en eski yazılı metinler ve destanlar Adiğe dilinin ilk şeklini büyük ölçüde muhafaza ettiğini gösteriyor. Erillik dişillik özellikle Abhaz ve Ubıkh dillerinde bariz bir şekilde görülüyor. Yine mahsus ses olarak (tl) sesi belirgin. Kafkas dillerinin İndo Cermen dillerle benzerlik taşımakla birlikte tam olarak bu gruba sokulamayacağı dil bilimcilerin genel kabulüdür.
Bulabildiğimiz bazı Etrüskçe kelimeler ve karşılıkları şöyle;
Adiğece Etrüskçe Türkçe
---- ---- -----
Jıale clan delikanlı
Pşaşe sec kız
Ate - Ade-ati baba
Çerkesce sayılar
1-zı
2-tu-du
3-şı
4-plı
5-thu
6-xı
Urallar ve Pireneler arasında açıkça kaybolmuş bir dil ailesi veya dil kemeri vardır. İzini sürmenin bir yolu yok ama Baskça, Kafkasya'daki ve Finno-Ugor dilleriyle bazı özellikleri paylaşıyor; ancak bunun ne kadar derin olduğunu söyleyemeyiz. Etrüsk'e gelince, muhtemelen Altay ve Bask arasında bir yerdedir, ama agian, bunu bilmiyoruz. İzlediğiniz için teşekkürler.
Kesin olarak biraz cahillik var ve dalgınlık kapasitesini doldurduğunun farkında değilsin. Çok büyük bir hata yaptın. Yanlış bilgiler veriyorsun. Yanlışlığın nerede? Binlerce yıl önceki kelimeleri, günümüzün Anadolu Türkçe kelimeleri ile karşılaştırma yapıyorsun. İskitler-Etrüskler- Sümerler Proto-Türk, dilleri Proto-Türkçe dil grubundadır. Bunu ispatlamak çok kolay. Avrupalı ve Amerikalı tarih ve dil araştırmacıları gerçekleri bildikleri halde inat ediyorlar. Hiç araştırma yapmadan yorum yapmışsın.
Etrüsklerin Türk oldukları kabul edilirse beyaz adamın hristiyan - Yahudi din ve kültürleri yerle bir olacaktır. Bunun siyasi, dini tarafları var. İspat isterseniz, size kanıtlar sunabilirim.
İsterseniz...
İskitler- Etrüskler- Sümerler PROTO-TÜRK ve dilleri PROTO-TÜRKÇE'dir.
Bir Türkolog olarak söylüyorum.
"Kelimenin orijinini “Türk” adında arayanlar bile var ama bu da bilimsellikten uzak bir varsayım." sözünün kendisi bilimsellikten çok daha uzak :)
Etrüskçe, runiktir. Ama kökeni için Yunan demek tartışılır. Göktürk Abidelerini görmüş ve Göktürkçe öğrenmiş herhangi bir kişi farklı düşünür. Çünkü Etürkçenin gramer kuralları ile Göktrükçenin gramer kuralları aynıdır!
İkisi de sağdan sola yazılır.
İkisinde de harfler aynıdır.
Üst üste iki nokta : kuralı aynıdır.
İlk heceden sonra ikinci hecede harf aynı ise yazılmaz. İkisinde de bu kural vardır.
Antik dönemin yerli halkları bu tarz kuralları orta asya'ya götüremezdi. Ama göçebe, yarı göçebe Türk halkları bunu yapabilecek kapasiteye sahipti. Atlarının gittiği yere kadar feth eder ve yerleşirlerdi. Etrüsklerin DNA'ları ile bugün ki Türkiye Türk'ünün DNA yapısı da aynı. İlginç bir not daha bırakayım: Anadoluda hiç antik yunan Dna'sı yok. Ege'de bile yunan dnası yok.
Göktrük Kağanlığını kuran halkın adı Aşina (Ashina)
Modern Türkçe'de karşılığı Asena
Etrüskler kendilerine RAsena diyorlar.
Ayrıca eğer göktrük döneminde yaşayan biri olsaydın ETURUK, ETÜRÜK, TÜRÜK, ETÜRK bu kelimelerin hepsini göktürkçe'de ancak TÜRK olarak yazabilirdin.
Çünkü ilk harf A/E sesi ise yazılmaz!
Hatırlayalım, ikinci hecedeki sesli harf, ilk hecede varsa ikinci sesli harf yazılmaz!
Kısacası, runik alfabede etrüsk ile türk aynı yazılır.
Saygılarımla.
I found that thracian people called thracians by greeks are actually etruscian people. i will tell you why am i right . Because if you make your own research to the treasures found in my country Bulgaria you will understand. Here were found the oldest golden book of etruscian people. Thracians are from
Asia, so etruscans tooo. They are the same people. Here in Bulgaria were found the oldest golden treasure in the world. So you can make your own research about connection between these "two" people etruscians and "thracians". I am not scientist, but i am unterested about ancient history and archeology so i had red a lot of information.
There are many worthy theories.
You are spot on
Une in albanian is I and mi in albanian is my. So mi is not I but my or mine, depending by the sentence ca in albanian is what
@BenLlywelyn very interesting civilization they are. Their language is not Indo-European and according to Heredotus their roots coming from Anatolia. But even if they came from Anatolia; those times there may have Indo-European language. So is there a chance they are Turkic and their language Uralic?
Hittite (Indo-European) would have been spoken in Annatolia then. But we are thinking in the modern sense - there were many peoples and some we no longer know about I am sure.
Kelts roots depend on middle of Anatolia, Hitites genetically. Anatolia always called as cradle of civilizations. Thats why 12.000Years old GobekliTepe and KarahanTepe found in Anatolia. Also early Turkic migrations occured many years ago. As you said many people mixed during the time.@@BenLlywelyn
Un or Une or Mu in Albanian meaning Me
Ca or Ka meaning have
The hips in Albanian meaning Beli
Phersu-Mask or perde-curtain in Persian
Satnal (nal or mu nal)meaning stop or to stop
Truri-Brain
This words are from Geg dialect Albanian
This are some words that have no connection with surrounding people
We Albanians believe that our ancestry is from the DarDan people the ancient Greeks historians claimed that the DarDans and Trojans were related
It’s good to do more research
Etruscan was not indo-european. But as for Albanian, it would be faacinating to learn more about your people.
@@BenLlywelynjust don't learn from Greeks, Serbs or North Macedonians but Italians, Austrians, British, German researchers or historians. While you are at it read Edith Durham book High Albania to learn more of the neighbours of Kosovo Albanians 😢
Etruscan is a human language, unlike English. Linguistic research has been carried out, the results of which Western researchers, in their arrogance, ignore. The content of Etruscan inscriptions can be understood using the Old Serbian language. Thus, the Erusian language is very similar to the Slovic languages. Even I, although I'm from Poland, can understand the inscription on a ceramic Etruscan mug: "wipij mnie", which means "drink me" in hybrid English
All spoken languages are human unless you know some aliens. Friendly aliens, I hope.
@@BenLlywelyn I'm sorry if my statement was too provocative. Sometimes it's necessary to freshen up the issue a bit
Thank you very much for this awesome video...! Order: Etruscan=Turkic=Turkish Mini=meni=Beni, Un/U/O, Une/Onge/Ona, Unu/Sen/Sen etc. seems very similar to me....But the numbers are totally different from Turkish, maybe they have their number names/system from another culture? The DNA analysis says that Etruscans are relative with Anatolian Turks. Is it possible that the Etruscans were Prototurks? There are a lot of unanswered questions for sure. How similar is the Alphabet system between Orhun/Göktürk and Etruscan Alphabet? That would be a very good comparison imo. I love your researches very much. Greetings from Turkey ❤🧡💛💚
Teşekküre. I think all the peoples... Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, Altaic - Turkic, Finno-Ugric, Basque. Form a long, distantly related arch, but that 3 or 4 whole familes between Basque and Finno Ugric were lost in pre-history. And I think Etruscan was the last survivor of those.
@@BenLlywelyn Yes Ben, your theory sounds very logical to my ear. Do you think there are at least 100 or 207 common words in Etruscan with any of those Ural/Altaic/Finn/ Ugruic languages?
Mİ=BEN
MÊ=BEN(dişi 🚺
ME=BİZ
WE=SİZ
WA=ONLAR
Wİ=O
HUN=SİZ+SİZLER
.
EW/EU=O
EV--BU
TE/Tİ/TU/TO/TOU=SEN
.
MİNE=BENİMKİ
MENE=BİZİMKİ
Mİ=kalıcı-->BEN
TE=gelen-->SEN
.
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KÜRTÇE DE
I don't get why historians always talk of Etruscan language as a unreadable or highly mysterious. Etruscan language is no mystery to Slavic people. We can read and understand it very well, it is based in Slavic language. Austria, east Germany, Italy - Lombardia, Tuscany were inhabited by Slavs, had Slavic culture and language. That is a fact that even historians - quackademics acknolwledge. Originally called Etrusenia, neither isolated nor obsolete, but part of vast "state" stretching from Siberia to Europe, Asia and Americas. One world peacful civilization. Etrussenians were the original Slavic inhabitants of italy before the first reich, the first nazis (roman) came and conquered by force and stole their highly evolved cultrure and knowledge (as they did with second and third reich, today they're trying to have a go at fourth), always trying to slice up Slavic countries and murder Slavs (look at Ukraine Russia conflict).
Slavs can read and understand this etrussenian language.
I don't think this is true, personally.
All you need to do Ben is to find a native Slavic person. I am a Slav from Bohemia region and have no problem understanding etrussky, no need for translation. Same goes for ANY Slavic person. Have a thorough look into this research, it is spot on right, true. Go ahead and find Slavic person in your place of residence and try it out! Greetings from Prague to you.
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@@BenLlywelyn
Tako je sestro!
You're very cool
Most kind of you.
The Hittites used Akkadian as the official language. Troy was the Principality of the Hittites. After Troy fell, the western principality of the Hittites, the Etruscans, settled in the Tuscan region of Italy. The original Etruscan spoken language is a language close to Hittite, that is, an Indo-European language, but the official correspondence language is Sumerian and its descendant, a language of Akkadian origin. The Hittites are the Gutian dynasty, originating from the Zagros region of Mesopotamia. It is a dynasty that ruled the Sumerians for 200-300 years. They migrated to Anatolia during the time of Prophet Abraham. One of the pharaoh's wives was Hittite. West dynastic counterpart to the Hittites has been the Habsburg dynasty for the last 800 years. In the east, their cousins, we, established these empires and countries one after another. Hitits, Medians, Iskits, Partians, also established kinship with the Seljuk dynasty, Then we founded the Ayyubid state and as a continuation of mamluks. We also established kinship with the Ottoman dynasty
Utter rubbish
This was fascinating. I was surprised by some other videos I saw (not here) that suggested Etruscian was now legible, but the truth appears to be that it's only partially legible at best. I'm going to give this video another listen to understand your information better.
Thank you for being able to put up with me twice. Appreciated.
@@BenLlywelyn With pleasure. I lived in Rome from 1966-69 and became a lifelong fan of Roman history. I would also be interested in what you might post about the Villanuevan Culture, the Oscans and their language, The Samnites, etc. I wish I knew more about these subjects, but am an enthusiast rather than an academic. I really struggled with Latin in High School, but found in invaluable in learning German in College (because of case structure), but NOT Italian for some reason. I've subscribed, BTW. 👍
Where do you think they got "aesir" from as a term for the gods? The timelines & etymologies don't seem to make a borrowing possible - in either direction - from Germanic. Maybe just pure coincidence?
Not to mention "mi"
Maybe Germans got it from them?
In Italian we use MI (= A ME)
Dammi il libro
Dai a me il libro
Give me the book
Gib mir das Buch
I think 8 is B, so "Fufluns" is Bubluns
and D is usually D not R, so "Larun" is Ladun
"The shape of eight" [8] for the sound of [f] was an Etruscan invention.
In earlier inscriptions they combined the letters [v+h] to represent the "f" sound because there wasn't any letter for that particular sound in the alphabet they adopted from the Greeks.
That [v+h] combination was probably borrowed from their Italic neighbours.
btw... In later texts the town name Fufluns was also written as Pupluna or Pufluna. Nowadays that's the city of Populonia.
@@level442FM Hi.
What are these earlier etruscan inscriptions with V+H letters?
I disagree that Etruscans didn't have sounds/letters for B and D.
For B, for example etruscan Frontac, if it was read Brontac it has clear connotation to greek βροντή.
There were probably many dialects, so maybe you are right too.
@@user-le4sb8is4i Examples of the V+H (or H+V) digraph: Hvlave (from 700-650 BC: an adopted Italic praenomen. Latin: Flavius)
Vhulve or Hvuluve (6th century BC. Another Italic praenomen. Latin: Fulvius.
Thivharie (675-650 BC, praenomen of Luwian origin. Possibly the later Latin version of the praenomen Tiberius)
I'm fully convinced there were diffrent dialects spoken in Etruria (northern and soutern dialect to begin with), or at least in the Neo-Etruscan period. It is clearly attested in various spelling from one town to another.
@@user-le4sb8is4i They didn't use the letters B or D in their orthograhy as you mentioned. On the other hand it doesn't say they didn't had the sounds [b] and [d] in the spoken language.
Adoptions from other languages like Greek or Italic (Oscan, Umbrian, Faliscan etc.) with the letters B and D were usually rendered with the letter P and T, respectively.
Thus Prometheus = Prumathe. Bakkhos = Pakhie.
I'm no expert in Etruscan, but i've got a fair collection of books regarding their history and language which i'm going to plow through one by one :)
Etruscans did NOT invent the letter F.
Ancient Greek used the letter digamma spelt F for the sound W
Athenian Greek dropped the sound W in the spoken language and eventually dropped the letter
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digamma
If the extent & variety (& level of scholarship or otherwise!) are considered, there's great interest in Etruria. I have my own ideas, which I won't go into here, but it would be nice to see SOME progress towards a fuller knowledge of the language. UA-cam vids like this can only help, but is the time right for an update?
The book I bought when I made this video, to read and go into it, was about as much as we know. We simply do not know anymore, and the Etruscan Language been extinct for as longer than the Welsh Language has lived.
Could etruscan PH ressemble more to the P aspirated sound of the italian and dialect still spoken in Tuscany?
Possible.
I found your video really interesting. I don't know much about Etruscans, but I love exploring ancient alfabets and numbers. I understood from your video that there is a problem with 4 and 6. But if it is sure that 16 = Huth Śar then 6 = Huth?
We know so little about Etruscan it is hard to.say. And thank you for watching.
Not if you count in dozens!
hungarian and chuvash vocabulary,that is the ural altaic language family is said to be the roots of etruscan...which fused into latin and greek...
That is a lot of fusing.
Must read from right to left .it sounds turkish kipchak
Talitha? That's aramaic from New Testament. Suspicious.
Talitha sounds like a nice word though.
Well spotted!
No Etruscan inscription has 'talitha'. This is bad info still on the internet!
I don't believe that Thu, Zal, Ći etc is correct etruscan counting system. Dice mustn't have numbers. I think that punic IIIrd byrh (3rd month) corresponds to Meresca (and it means of March).
I've read a book recently which shed some more light on that problem/topic, too.
Scholars has done some further research and came to the conclusion, based on etymological and comparative studies that the numbers previously was arranged in the wrong order.
Thus, 1 = zal
2 = thu
3 = ci
4 = huth
5 = makh
6 = śa
@@level442FM But what if these weren't numbers at all? But for example first letters of names of flowers?
Hi! An Italian hystorist's opinion: Etrusks came from Carpatian basin long times ago. But, who knows?!
If I had to guess Etruscan origins, genetic and archaeological evidence suggests that they traveled from the Alps to the Apennines around 13th-12th century BC along with the Latin tribes.
The concensus is they were pre-Indo-European, like the Basques.
Note, that the people today living in Turkey are 95% descendents of many people, none of which spoke a Turkish language in classical times. They were conquered by Turks, coming from the East (today's Kazakhstan etc.) more than two thousand years after the Etruscans had left Anatolia, and as they speak Turkish today, they feel being Turks. Genetically they are Pelasgans, Greeks, Hethites etc.
Imagine if Greek had remained across Western Anatolia.
🇮🇹🤔Etruscan Indo-European language?
If most scholars appear aligned with the famous definition of Dionysius of Halicarnassus (historian of the time of Augustus) according to which the Etruscan language had no comparison and similarity with the other known languages, we have examples of scholars who believed to find a more or less close kinship with other languages, even very different from each other.
The scholars who are aligned with the well-known thesis of Dionysius of Halicarnassus are generally archaeologists, those who still adhere to the thesis of the "Etruscan language not comparable with any other". Linguists, on the other hand, at least in general, think differently and we have made comparisons of Etruscan with other languages and continue to do so.
I will limit myself only to pointing out that even the Etruscan numbers of the first decade are reflected in the corresponding numbers of Indo-European languages. And this is of the utmost importance, given that we all know that the first proof of the kinship of the various Indo-European languages was provided precisely by the homoradicality of the numbers of their first decade.
It no doubt would have taken in loan words from surrounding Indo-European languages.
Etruscan was an agluttinative language: It is not an Indo-European language. All who try to find links based on etymology with indo-european languages fall flat, it can't be done. Read the books of G Facchetti, V. Bellelli, E. Benelli, Agostiniani and Helmut Rix for authoritative linguistic research on the Etruscan language.
Great video. One minor complaint though... the camera flipping back and forth was rather jarring. Just sayin.
Thank you.
Counting from three to eight except for four and five is like counting in Finno-Ugric languages, don't you think?
I don't think in Finnic. Maybe.
Contrary to what another commenter says, ch in etruscan is nothing like Ll in welsh. Ch in etruscan is an aspirated voiceless velar stop, kʰ
A new theory: Etruscan influenced Latin in vocabulary, and also in alphabet (From Punic not Greek)
Pre-Roman Italy was certainly an inter-cultural world of many exchanges.
Their alphabet sure looks familiar. Many of the shapes used today from Latin are right there.
Etruscan - Etrassenian language is an old proto-Slavic (IndoAryan) language sharing many individual letters and souds with Balkan languages, with Russian azbuka, with Polish, Czech, Slovakian, Slovenian and even old Coptic and Russian-Greek orthodox style language, Sanskrt and on and on. These are mixture of azbuka and old ancient Slavic alphabets (many words in Sanskrt identical to Slavic). Also the language of Rousillon (Lang d'Oc Rousillon literally means the language of Rassenians) in southern France is of the same cultrure (Rassenian), the language of Katars (theirs is a fascinating story). Etrassenian language, therefore, is fully legible and if read out loud is perfectly understandable by many Slavic people without a need for translation. If you have any Slavic persons around, go ahead and test it. There are many books on this subject, disecting each Etrassenian inscripton letter by letter, word by word, being easily "deciphered" and understood. I have such books, I can post the titles. Also there is a YT channel looking into history that doesn't match the official narrative, including a part on Etrassenia. I can post it if you are interested. All makes perfect sense if you start thinking outside of the box.
The true history is unknown to us. Maybe we can have an understanding of the past 150 years (even that is vague) at the most but anything before then is just a fabricated wild story as written for us by jezuit Josef Scaliger in the 1500's the person who gave us the "correct" history and chronology. The fabricated narratives are told in scattered separation without wide context and driven by quackademia and taught at scholls as truth and fact. It is anything but.
But some people can and have pieced it together, there are many historians and authors being censored, discredited and driven out of quackademia for having different opinion. Yet their take on our human story is fascinating and valid mostly because it is not driven by any outside interest nor it is financed by quackademia.
The story of human race is stranger than your wildest imagination and nothing is as it seems. Once you get it, see it and realize it you can not unsee it. It is literally like waking up from a sleep.
Ben, greetings from magical mysterious and magnificent Prague, the heart of Slavic regions, Bohemia, a culture full of alchemy, spirituality, transformation, symbols, herritage, nature and deep knowledge in our hearts .
Prague is no doubt a beautiful city to call home. On the language front, the concensus is that Etruscan was not Indo-European.
@@BenLlywelynIt is indoeuropean and has features like in romanian but more towards slavic languages.
Ca/this, is just like in romanian.
Jaime ❤
I missed something. Where was the ‘mummy’ with the text found?
The usual country.
How much did Etruscan Dress influence Roman Dress? Did the TOGA exist in Etruria first before becoming Roman?
Probably, yes. Albeit slightly different.
Greece is the model for the Roman civilization. This is well known and documented.
But, earlier, the Etruscans had already adopted Greek clothing and adapted it.@@dcc2351
Not sure how I missed this until now...
I tried to get my head around some Etruscan inscriptions a few years ago. The entire use of the language - even in a translation - is so idiomatic as to be almost completely unintelligible. Not enough remains for us to get into the Etruscans' headspace, other than that it seems to have been so obsessively ritualistic and repetitive that it would have little utility to us. Perhaps it was purposeful, but we don't share the Etruscan purpose; Or maybe the surviving exemplars are not representative of.daily usage.
Hats off to you for diving in, Ben. I couldn't work out how to turn any text that I looked at into something meaningful in modern English to the man in the street.
Thank you.
Manifique
Let's end this , there are books already there which explain Etruscan can be translated only with the Albanian language.
Many books are wrong, like Dracula.
@@BenLlywelyn i specifically used the sentence : it can be translated...I hope you understand that definition.
I’m wondering whether the -ic in the word for “golden” is the same as the -ic in English. -en and -ic both mean “sort of” or “like.”
I doubt it. But I don't know.
From Greek -ikos, Etruscans had a lot of contact with Greeks, so it's possible they borrowed it just like English did?
Shocking similarity to Indo-European language, including those other than Latin or Greek. Hard for me to believe based on the information present here that it wasn’t an Indo-European language.
Read the The Etruscan Language by Bonfante for deeper grammar study.
What exactly is shocking? Mi?
I agree with Tanju Dermanlı, obviously Etruscan is Altaic originated. First of all it is agglutinative and ben/men is me and beni/meni is me accusative in turkic languages.
Also, in elder turkic altaic gokturk alphabet (gök-türük = blue turks who were eastern brand of turks, mostly kirgiz and remained in central asia region and are vastly killed by mongols (C3 haplogroup) during invasions) was using both harsh and soft versions separately for consonants. In every turkic words, all consonants were harsh and used together with "a, ı, o/u" or all were soft used with "e, i, ö/ü". This is rule of turkic languages. (Try to inspect and understand the dialect from internet!)
Still in todays turkish; b, c, d, g are soft and p, ch, t, k are harsh versions. Because surprisingly, we changed to latin alphabet today and tried to adapt in same way etruscan did. :D
In my opinion, they were turkmens, bashkirs and anatolian turks who have immigrated to western europe over anatolia and balkans with their altai originated genetics R1, also told in herodotus writings as a foreign immigrations.
Fascinating theory. And it is just as valid as my own. I think Some Native American, Japonic, Korean, Mongolic, Altaic, Turkic, Finno Ugric and Basque are all part of a long arch of distant families, which have lost several branches between them.
Will be great if you compare Etrurscan script with Slavic Serbian Polish Russian script and language you will get very interesting results god bless you
So little has survived.
@@BenLlywelyn just Google Serbian Russian and Polish linguists you will understand very easy what they have to say...will be great if you compare it with Vincha script as well 🙋❤️
Marcus Tullius Cicero: His name should be pronounced "Kikerō" (Μάρκος Τύλλιος Κικέρων/Marcos Túllios(?) Kikérōn, in Greek) not "Sisero", if i were to spell it the way it should sound. Why English speakers always mangle sounds/names in foreign languages?!
It is how we say it.
Autochtonous you say? Acc. to my DNA, I am Etruscan and Anatolian although born in Campania. Scooch over Rasna.
Intense.
It could be seen that they worship god Perun like Slavic people.
Could it?
There is language you have to learn for helping your explaination.albanian and its dialects.
A enigmatic language - Albanian.
Interesting, but the sound quality is terrible and the presenter's voice is frequently drowned out by the music.
See my newer videos. Sound it getting better. Learning.
SLAVS
Etruscan has been read by proto-Turk ''tamgas''.
Has it?
@@BenLlywelyn Yes, but unfortunatelly because our academia is not very ''international'' and the international academia is not very pleased of a a non-''western'' foundation to portions of their history, it needs a great deal of digging up to source details in the english language, perhaps impossible.
tray to translate with Albanien the language
How do you pronounce your last name?
Stylishly.
@@BenLlywelyn Very stylishly I might add.
Spurethi: th - was it really Eglish "th"? Not aspirated "t"? The same relates to "ch" :)
We don't know.
@@BenLlywelyn : Not "we". It is you who presents another version of Etruscan phonetics. Based on what? According to what the linguists claim, there were 2 types of consonants p, t, k: aspirated and unaspirated. And no English "th", "ch".
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ProtoTurkic language, relative to GokTurk Alfabet
A few think this. Hmm.
last name is `PUIA OR `PUIIA. Also in the ```Etruscan language\
İt is so similar to old turkish
The Old Turkic we have is 1500 years after Etruscan on the otherside of Eurasia with little to no research done between the two.
@@BenLlywelyn doğrudur fakat ben birçok benzer kelime yakaladım
Ci,sar is Caesar! /13
It is at least zamthing
we wuz etruzkangz comments ..
Spelling correctly helps one's prospects in life.
Italian (Tuscany) BABBO
English DAD
Chinese BÀBA
Albanese BABI
Arab ‘AB
Dogr BAAPU
Korean APPA
Nepalese BUBĀ
Norvegese PAPPA
Russia PAPA
Shona BABA
Somalo AABE
Sudanese BAPA
Swahili BABA
Tamil APPĀ
Ungherese APU
Vietnamit BÔ’
Yoruba BABA
Zulu UBABA
Etc.
FATHER:
Italian PADRE, PAPÀ, BABBO (Tuscany)
Mongolian AAV
Korean ABEOJI
Arab AB
Sanskrit
Albanese BABA
Japanese OTŌSAN
Giavanese BAPAK
Greek BAMPÀS
Hinei PAAPA
Etc.
Apa means father in inuit,and etruscan.
Look it up, etrusc runic writing and Hungárian runic writing 😉
Also Apa is in hun father!
As in suar language, also American Indian tribes used Apa as father. Hun is the oldest language actually ☝️😉
And abu in Arabic. Too little to judge.
and ata in turkik
The words Talitha cumin was the words Jesus said when he resurrected a girl. That is aramaic. The aramaic word Tabitha is a female gazelle. Etruscan didn't have b.
A bit of a stretch for me.
Try to compare it to slavic languages.Serbia,Bosnia, Croatia,Romania and Bulgaria also have Etruscian monuments.
Interesting.
In hittite and Turkish atta is father... Attaturk father of Turks 😊
Hittite was Indo-European, not Turkic.
today they call them slavs
I wonder how the Slavs feel about that.
it is illyrian language
Is it?
@@BenLlywelyn it is
Lingua etrusca si traduzione solo in lingua albanese perché loro sono tosc perché tosca e un dialetto albanese
Non vedo alcuna relazione tra la lingua albanese e quella etrusca.
It was Serbian.
:)
Check the turkish dialeckt
Oh?
@@BenLlywelyn why oh?it is altayic I can understand
@@BenLlywelyn compare with turkic runes
Rasena=Asena (Royal blood in turks) ,,tarkan(high rank army officer ,top in turks),,alp (strong big soldier) etc
Une,,,is wrong ,,,ona in turkish to him or her
12:30 according to those examples, the word for sister would be "ester"
It's simple...
Etruscan - English - Russian ( Slavic)
ati - mother - m ati ( Мать)
apa - papa (father) - p apa ( Папа)
ruva - brother - b rat ( Брат)
sech - daughter - D och ( Дочь)
ester - sister - s estra ( Сестра )
What would be Slavic's ancestor was then barely formed and 2000 miles away.
@@BenLlywelyn That's simply a lie.
You can find Slavic ancestory in Scythians or European Scythians to be precise. They called themselves Skoloti later Scoloveni - Slav(s), which can be traced to at least 4th millenia BC.
Skolo is basically sun going around the earth (The word school also derived from that root , a study of our ancestors of sun cycles basically) i. e. solar symbols, you can find them all over Europe (part of it was later stolen by the Germans in the 1930s...)
In fact according to the Slavic calendar , it's around 7500th year right now...
Lol, gimme some phonetical princilples to derive братръ from ruva or vice versa. So, the Skoloti are those poor folks who do need visiting schools till the end of their days, eh? Or maybe, just visiting a doctor is enuff?
Pellazgian - llyrian- Albanian
Also, how can you speak or say anything when you don't know to decipher their writing and those meanings 😑
Reading.
@@BenLlywelyn Sir, reading and concluding sentences without actual meaning an opportunity for you? 🧐
@@BenLlywelyn ua-cam.com/video/fGLctziOc3w/v-deo.htmlsi=PR03KS6XvOQmuDA7
As an example.. 🤷♂️
Etruscans language and people are west African and Nile Valley African
Oh?
Czy Autor zna język grecki i słowiański; to kluczowe; w Annopolu żyją w Turcji Polacy mówiący po staropolsku. Więcej mogą kojarzyć.Autorzy kultury celtyckiej niczego nie zrozumieją. Wokół Etrusków kwitła prasłowiańska prakultura Vinca i najazdy kaganatu. Stąd widzimy zmiękczenia, których brak u anglo-germanów, greków czy rzymian, którzy chronologicznie byli późniejsi.Alfabet posiada elementy cyrylicy i greki, trochę runicznych znaków. W mitologii mamy sugestię powiązań skandynawsko - greckich i ruskich/ Prometeusz i Herkules na Kaukazie i Zachodzie, Eneasz z Troi jako zakładający Rzym. Odkrycia z Troi i Myken po zasiedleniu Europy przez homo Heilderbengensis pod Maczugą Herkulesa 500 000 lat temu/ źródłowo z wykopalisk. Słowiańskie mumie są autochtoniczne nawet na chińskiej pustyni, więc dlaczego Ich protojęzyk i kultura nie miałby dotrzeć do znacznie bliższej chinom i Kałkazowii Toskanii. Kapłani Hiperborejscy przenieśli Omfalos do Delf, a więc kontaktowali się ze śródziemnomorzem.
The Etruscan language is a human language unlike English
Be nice.
Runic writing.. Ohh yeah, those are exactly similar with the Hungarian Rune's. Woooow, finally solved.
And that just because agglutinating languages in Europe are... Awesome, yess
Hungarian. Oh boy, why is it always oppressed from those who doesn't want to come out with the truth. First tribe in Europe and also first and oldest language.
There is no evidence linking Hungarian and Etruscan. Agglutinasation happens in Japanese and Cherokee too.
@@BenLlywelyn
Actually Japanese linguists and some other profound Individuums wich were into finding links etc.
are saying that hungarian connects and so on, with several other languages on another basis..
But Sir, maybe I can look up to these articles and put down those links here 🤔
@@BenLlywelyn
ua-cam.com/video/6vq3wOgDb2s/v-deo.htmlsi=I3WrxIe-s8u2UDzv
I've got some more links, but you wouldn't be convinced anyways as i think. So thanks sir for you're few words 👌
Albalonga Rome colli Albani Albano Laziale are founded by ilirians albanians..so day olds Brooks letterature italians ,in the museums of Italy are sacrofaghes of etruscan in albanian language..,this thing Is knows now in all Italy,all Italy Is with origine albanian..!!
How convenient for Albania. :)
Latin AVUS (ancestor, grandfather)
Italian AVO
Chinese Ā-wò
Korean ABO
Japanese ABO
Hindi EVO
Mongolian AAV
Etc.
Italian (Tuscany) BABBO
English DAD
Chinese BÀBA
Albanese BABI
Arab ‘AB
Dogr BAAPU
Korean APPA
Nepalese BUBĀ
Norvegese PAPPA
Russia PAPA
Shona BABA
Somalo AABE
Sudanese BAPA
Swahili BABA
Tamil APPĀ
Ungherese APU
Vietnamit BÔ’
Yoruba BABA
Zulu UBABA
Etc.
FATHER:
Italian PADRE, PAPÀ, BABBO (Tuscany)
Mongolian AAV
Korean ABEOJI
Arab AB
Sanskrit
Albanese BABA
Japanese OTŌSAN
Giavanese BAPAK
Greek BAMPÀS
Hinei PAAPA
Etc.
Sorry I didn't know where is come from this stupidity, Etruscan was part of scythians Huns and magor. They are speaking the first language Akad summer.
Thanks for watching.
Etruscan=Pelasgian=Albanian🇦🇱
Bro Etruscan and Pelasgian are non Indo-European languages while Albanian is which means that there is no connection between them
This is true.
Stele of Lemnos say a different reality..it's not a secret anymore🙃
@@koimismenosswho tell you Albanian is indo-européennes 😅 in this time is just hypothèse dont know about Albanian langue in to much contry we have From words that look like there is a theory that the Albanian language is a language made by all the languages of Europe 🤣, there is the theory That the Albanian language is left by the Illyrian and the Illyrian is from Pelasges is always hypotheses have not found fact but to say that we are Indo-European does not seem like that Is not right and not proven who we are 🧐why we speak this language 🤦 just hypothesis
@@Cool-yr8go stop spewing bullshit man
Is Albanian 🇦🇱
Albanian food is good I hear.
@@BenLlywelyn Hello,I've seen some sentences in etruscan who are actually very same with the albanian language.can you explain it why?
@@vaso2000 Maybe someone was faking Etruscan?
@@BenLlywelyn no cause 2 albanian historians talked about it,and said the same things that were behind its translation.im giving you an example:
Etruscan
Te urat tan na la rez ula me vaxr.
Albanian
Të urtët tanë na lanë rreze poshtë në varr.
English
Our nobles left us rays down the grave.
Both historians showed this on their book.there was a photo of this sentence that I showed you above of course in etruscan writing system.that means I didnt understood it,so i needed to learn the etruscan which i did and what the albanian historians told was true,so sir you need to find more information about the etruscan then talking that some things are fake
@@vaso2000 We need further studies and more facts on the subject in order to establish a link and a possible connection between those languages.
Bringing up a incomplete sentence doesn't prove anything.
Here is the full inscription: [T]eurat-tan na. La Rezu[ś] ame va-xr lautn Velthinas eśtla Afunaś sle-leth caru Tezan fuśleri tesnśteiś Raśneś.
Translation: Judge Larth Rezus will not implement this, provided that the Velthina family (of the placing of the stone) (will allow) the first wife of Afuna, the beloved Thesan, to be venerated according to Etruscan laws."
If you wish to learn more about the Etruscan language i can highly recommend "Zikh Rasna" by Rex E. Wallace and "The Etruscan Language - an introduction" by Giulano & Larissa Bonfante.
Mi ni in Gheg Albanian Mi ni burrat to hear men me ni gruan to hear a woman,
Une means I, beni means did it, sen means nothing so Etuscian language is Albanian Gheg not Turkish or Turkiç
Hmmm. I don't follow.
@@BenLlywelyn the words that Etuscians have used and Albanian Gheg dialekt that is spoken in Republic of Kosova are the same.
Where it was spoken in 15 century,when Turkish statistic says that on Kosovo and Metohija was just few albanian families?
Kłamiesz, łżesz, wymyślasz bzdury.
english........ etruscan......... Turkic
good................ ii...................... iyi
to be.............. am..........im-um/olmak
honest............ ak.......... ak/dürüst
elder brother... aga........... aga
forefathers...... ataapa....... atası
grandfather....... tata........... dede
boy.......................elan.............olan
tribe/boys...........klan...........uklan
soldier/person....er................er/kişi
person.................. kıs...............kişi
now.........................ena........ an/şimdi
all..............................heva...........hep
box..........................kutum..........kutu
day..........................tin............tan/gün
etruscan like all uraltaic-türkic languages is an aglutinante language, both have vocal harmony, neither have article, nor prefixes, both use the same comparison appendix, both use question suffix and in both languages, adjectives come before the noun.
People are under the misconception that they called themselves Rasenna, they came from a place called Asenna, which was situated on the eastern shores of the caspian sea, so they referred to themselves as "Rasenna" > from /of Asenna, the name etruscan derives from the Indian and Arabic etrusk/al - etrusk meaning turkish, Asenna was also the name of the promised - land in their Turkic religion of Tengrism (the great tengri, creator and ruler of heaven and earth), and also the name of the Tengristic deity Asenna the she-wolf, which is supposed to lead them there, as per the bronze artefact unearthed in tuscany, it would have been part of a huge turkic confederacy, stretching from from southwest England, Germany thru to Iceland and to Japan and Korea, because it originated in eurasia, it contained many different ethnicities and their residual cultural and linguistic legacy,
I can't confirm about the etruscans as I am only an amateur but I can tell you from other Turkic confederacies (sumerians(kengir turks), scythians (iskit turks), kipchaks,) that, local peoples in their new realms would be offered an internship for them to learn new job skills and be educated about etruscan life, this process typically taking 7 years, at the end of which they would be given a free land and all the rights as an etruscan, these people with the scythians were called "sllavs" >slave.
Thank you for watching. I am not sure about Turkic Nationalism and tend toward a native European root, something between Basque and Uralic.
@@BenLlywelyn Turkic nationalism?
native European?, DNA shows the original settlers to be from central Asia,
Basque is now accepted by some to be related to the amerindian languages and a lot of them like the Huron, the Cherokee, the navajo, the Aztec, and the Mayan carry hundreds of Turkic words, something beyond the realms of loan-words, some dating back 12.000 years, we know the early Turkic (uraltaic) speaking society, having discovered the caldeon zodiac, were able to transport themselves anywhere in the world with pinpoint accuracy, they would most likely would go on whaling expeditions from the Basque country and sometimes would go to places like Minnesota to extract precious metals,
uralic belongs to Uraltaic,
english:I've got an apple in my pocket
hungarian :scebimde alma var
turkish...... :cebimde elma var
Ps. Thank you for the video.
The Hunes were the Tartars invading the planes of Panonia Dacia. So indeed they have a Turkish connection
yazdıkların yarısı arapça ve kürtçeden. CEP=arapçadan derine inersek oda kürtçe den
JEP =
+kesik
+kesinti
+elbisenin kesik yeri (cep).
.
BİR =iç kısımi+içerde +içinde+
--BİR=ön + sakalın önü +ön kısım+ göğüs kafesi+yan+yön
.
CEBİMDE BİR ALMA VAR=
(kesikte içinde alma (kırmızı) var
.
HEV=iç içe+birlikte+beraber +benzer+eş +dost+arkadaş+hamur
.
AN / İN =getiren + getirmek+bir şeyi getirmek zamanı getirmek+
ANA=GETİRİLDİ+ŞİMDİ-->ŞİMDİ
ANİ=GETİRDİ
.
Mİ=BEN(kalıcı
MÊ=BEN (dişi 🚺
ME=BİZ(genel
WE=SİZ
WA=ONLAR
Wİ=O
HUN=SİZ+SİZLER
Half of what you wrote is in Arabic and Kurdish. CEP = If we go deeper than Arabic, there is Kurdish.
JEP =
+cut
+interruption
+cut part of the dress (pocket).
.
ONE = inside + inside + inside +
--ONE = front + front of beard + front part + ribcage + side + direction
.
I HAVE A PICKUP IN MY POCKET =
(the cut has alma (red) in it
.
HEV=nested+together+together+similar+mate+friend+friend+dough
.
AN / İN = bringer + to bring + to bring something + to bring time +
MAIN=BROUGHT+NOW-->NOW
ANI = BROUGHT
.
.
ME=I(permanent
MÊ=I (female 🚺
ME=WE(general
WE=YOU
WA=THEY
WI=O
HUN = YOU + YOU
Kurdish
I was told it was the Phoenicians, who they traded with a lot, that the Etruscans got their letters from. What does it mean, to say that a language full of IE word roots is not an IE language? Several IE languages are agglutinative three or four steps, adding gender, plural, case. Eg Lithuanian Miestas. (į)miestą. mieste. miesto. City, to the city, in the city, the city’s/of the city. The plural “(possessive) the cities’/of the cities” = miestų. Pronouns work similarly. “Tu” = (familiar) you. Tau = to you/for you. Yours = tavo. “Kas tau?” = what’s with/for you? (What’s wrong?) “Kas tu?” = Who are you? (rudely familiar).
Your examples:
clan. “Clann” (Gaelic) children (of a progenitor).
lautn. “Leute” German, people, only exists as a plural. Ukrainian & other slavic languages have “lyude”= people, & lyud = a people, a nation/race. (Superfamily).
(Gaelic liuth = many. Or liuthad + noun = so many…)
Neri. lithuanian Neris = popular girl’s name, as mother goddess & a national major river. Nerti = to plunge or dive.
Satnal … sentinel? Sentry? One who watches (senses). Kinda sounds more borrowed from Latin or other IE than given to.
What would Etruscan “my mother” be? Miati? Or given their habit of dropping vowels - Mati. And the daughter-word has obvious similarities to IE sister-words. (Female-relative words).
I’m not saying it must be IndoEuropean, just struggling to see what it is that makes Etruscan any less IndoEuropean than Hittite or Luwian or Tocharian. What would the forerunner of Albanian have been like, just across the water?
We simply don't know enough abour Etruscan to know even simple phrases. But we are fairly certain now it was pre-Indo-European.
We simply don't know enough abour Etruscan to know even simple phrases. But we are fairly certain now it was pre-Indo-European.
Etrurci ČITAJ RASENI RAŠANI RASI. tačnije SRBI
Italian (Tuscany) BABBO
English DAD
Chinese BÀBA
Albanese BABI
Arab ‘AB
Dogr BAAPU
Korean APPA
Nepalese BUBĀ
Norvegese PAPPA
Russia PAPA
Shona BABA
Somalo AABE
Sudanese BAPA
Swahili BABA
Tamil APPĀ
Ungherese APU
Vietnamit BÔ’
Yoruba BABA
Zulu UBABA
Etc.
FATHER:
Italian PADRE, PAPÀ, BABBO (Tuscany)
Mongolian AAV
Korean ABEOJI
Arab AB
Sanskrit POP
Albanese BABA
Japanese OTŌSAN
Giavanese BAPAK
Greek BAMPÀS
Hinei PAAPA
Etc.
Now try Mam / Mother.
@@BenLlywelyn
SANSKRIT: Mata
LATIN: Mater
GREEK: Mitéra - Mamá
ITALIAN: Madre - Mamma - Ma’
ENGLISH: Mother - Mom
GERMAN: Mutter - Mutti
NORVEGESE: Mor - Mamma
FRENCH: Mère - Maman
SPANISH: - Madre - Mamá
CHINESE: Mŭqīn - Māmā
JAPANESE: Hahaoya - Okāsan
MONGOLIAN: Eej
KOREAN: eomeoni - eomma
HINDI: Maan
ALBANIAN: nënë - Mam
ROMANIAN: Mamă - Mama
PHILIPPINE: Ina - Nanay
ARAB: al’ um - ‘um
GANDA: Maama
ASSAMESE: Ma
BENGALESE: Mā
DOGRI: Maan
NEPALESE: Āmā
RUSSIAN: Mat’ - Mama
SHONA: Amai
SOMALO: Hooyo
SUDANESE: Indung
SWAHILI: Mama
TAMIL: Am'mā
TSONGA: Manana
HUNGARIAN: Anyaǰĵ
VIETNAMESE: Mẹ
THAILANDESE: Mæ
YORUBA: Iya
ZULU: Umama
JAVANESE: Ibu
BULGARIAN: Maika - Mam
KAZAKO: Anam
SINGALESE: Mava - Ammā
Latin AVUS (ancestor, grandfather)
Italian AVO
Chinese Ā-wò
Korean ABO
Japanese ABO
Hindi EVO
Mongolian AAV
Etc.
Italian (Tuscany) BABBO
English DAD
Chinese BÀBA
Albanese BABI
Arab ‘AB
Dogr BAAPU
Korean APPA
Nepalese BUBĀ
Norvegese PAPPA
Russia PAPA
Shona BABA
Somalo AABE
Sudanese BAPA
Swahili BABA
Tamil APPĀ
Ungherese APU
Vietnamit BÔ’
Yoruba BABA
Zulu UBABA
Etc.
FATHER:
Italian PADRE, PAPÀ, BABBO (Tuscany)
Mongolian AAV
Korean ABEOJI
Arab AB
Sanskrit
Albanese BABA
Japanese OTŌSAN
Giavanese BAPAK
Greek BAMPÀS
Hinei PAAPA
Etc.