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The Etruscans are often described as mysterious for many reasons. Their origins are unclear and their language is still not entirely deciphered. Greek and Roman historians regarded them as pirates and frivolous people and did not give their culture the credit it deserved. That’s why till these days in schools we study Greek history and then jump straight to Rome. But there was a very important piece in-between these two - the Etruscan civilisation - which in many ways shaped Rome.
#italy #tuscany #ancientcivilizations
I'm just hoping that, as we x-ray and digitally unroll more scrolls from the library of herculaneum, we eventually find a copy of Claudius' guide to Etruscan history and language.
To @metroplexprime9901
That is exactly one of the things that I have been wishing for. If not a Herculaneum scroll, a papyrus wrapped around a mummy would do nicely.
If you're waiting for Neapolitans, you're waiting in vain. They might have 10 rosetta stones in their museum's inventory and they wouldn't know lol.
The church destroyed most of ancient history but they may have something about this in their libraries.
@@vitordelima Really, it was time that destroyed the history, not any organisation. Think about how many movies, books, heck even video games from the past centuries, decades, and years have been lost: even with modern technology and people trying to preserve as much as possible. Now stretch that over 1000's of years. It's actually a miracle that so much has survived! Each of the works that we have are either miraculous survivors (like the dead sea scrolls), or they have been copied and recopied for centuries, and if any one of them was not copied before the media deteriorated beyond use; it was completely lost.
Conspiracies are fun, but entropy is the real enemy.
@@FreeManFreeThought OK, Meyer.
I LONGED for a video like this about the Etruscans. Thanks a lot Julie
Thank you! Happy you've enjoyed it
Are you Êzidî ?
@@Kurdedunaysiri I wish
Numbers
Count your fingers from right to left …
1 > Bir (ber) = ~per / ~pre > (~first)
2 > Iki (ekki) = ~add-itional / ~extra
3 > Üç (uch) = ~up / ~top point
4 > Dört (thuert) = ~thrust / ~ poke > …..by(forefinger)
5 > Beş (pesh) = ~face / ~front of / ~ahead > (thumb)
6 > Altı (alter) >(başaltı)= under (underhead) > (anti-thumb)
7 > Yedi (jettuw) = ~eated / ~enough / ~ended up
8 > Sekiz (sahgis)= ~coerces / ~stuckes / ~gives difficulties
9 > Dokuz (towgess)= ~satiateds / ~fullests / ~their peak
10 > On (aun) = ~main, / ~basis / ~origin
0 > Sıfır (sfur) = ~pitch
11 > Onbir = eleven
12 > Oniki = twelve
13 > Onüç = thirteen
20 > Yirmi (Jigirmae)
30 > Otuz ( autoss)
40 > Kırk (Quareq)
50 > Elli (Alley)
60 > Altmış (altmush)
70 > Yetmiş (jetmush)
80 > Seksen (sahegsan)
90 > Doksan (towegsan)
100 > Yüz (juse)= ~surface / ~face / ~page
1000 > Bin (ming) = ~mount / ~ride on / ~board on
@@JuLingo Ezt ön ismeri, Kedves Hölgyem?: MARIO ALINEI, Etrusco: una forma arcaica di ungherese
Mario Alinei (10 August 1926 - 9 August 2018) was an Italian linguist and professor emeritus at the University of Utrecht (Holland), where he taught from 1959 to 1987. He was an Etruscan scholar and linguist.
He has found some interesting stuff and language relationships, that many find disturbing and vehemently deny - even without the proper credentials, research and knowledge - like the ones Alinei actually had...
Some non-Italian people who don't know even three Etruscan words but called themselves "linguist" have called him a "crackpot", in spite that he was an EXPERT Etruscan linguist and was a professor at one of the most prestigious universities of the world for 28 years...
Virtually all of his detractors do not have anywhere near Alinei's credentials, his knowledge, nor the decades length and breadth of his research.
I have heard about prof. Alinei. There were many etruscologists like most famous Massimo Pallottino and Luisa Banti. Among linguists dealing with Etruscan language one of most prominent was German dr. Helmut Rix. And one of capital books on Etruscan material culture and art was written by Otto Brendel ("Etruscan art"). Otto Brendel (born in 1901 in Nuremberg, died on 8 October 1973).
Those statues and paintings show unusal human beauty. And i am able to see etruscan descendands in the streets of Italy. Some people show the same characteristics in their face.
Definitely, the people of Tuscany would count the Etruscans among their ancestors (the toponym Tuscany is derived from an alternate term for Etruria).
Northern Lazio and western Umbria were Etruscan as well. Rome had three Etruscan kings, all of them were from Tarquinia in the modern Lazio
Few of the things shown in the video have nothing to do with the topic, it's just random, wish they actually show things that they talk about or just don't show anything if they don't have access to a piece.
But yeah these Etrskians were something of importance for sure.
lets not forget that plenty of things Vatican banned to show so you wont see it on social media and especially a zombie puppet platform like YT is
Edit: anyway forgot to say that if you want to learn about Etruskan (Rasi) then don't go too far, learn about Serbian language old and new and you will know about Etruskians because they were the old Serbs.
Et Ruskians basically is From Rusians or From the Rasa. They called them selves Rasi for short. Serbs still to this day use that word for field plantation, today "rasejati" and Rasejani for people was a word for a natives who spread the world, who plant themselves around the world, spreading their language and knowledge.
Today Russia and Russians are pretty much using the same word and name for their own identity. Russia is basically the biggest Serbian tribe that became an independent empire and managed to survive ...
Today Serbia still have a region called Rashka Oblast which was named in honor of the people who roamed around the world and came back to settle there.
You will find the same in so called Ukraine, Poland and many other countries of today that use to be dominantly Serbian aka Slavic, aka Orthodox Christian ... depends of the topic.
In Italy and many other places obviously they didn't survived as Rasi or Etruskians or Serbs or what ever someone called them like ... I mean sure you have Serbian communities in Italy but before Italy existed Serbs actually had their own country in there. As shown in this video too.
Vatican and their branches directly or indirectly made many atroicities towards the Serbs through history and there is plenty of evidence how and why. Every European country bascially made on Serbian spilled blood and their language somehwat remained so as names of places.
You always manage to go deeper into language subject, weaving them in a fabric of contexts that make me watch from the first minute to the last! My sincere compliments!
Another great video Julie. Your grasp of languages and your interest in them is similar to my interest in electronics and electromagnetism. Thanks for translating another language to understandable content.
Keeping in mind that this is the act of a friend - 1200 BC is 'twelve-hundred', not 'twelve-thousand'. 12,000 BC would be very old indeed for a large-scale Mediterranean culture.
SERBIAN CIVILIZATION LEPENSKI VIR 9500BC
@@petarpan455 There are groups with archaeological visibility even older than that, but at 12,000 years they did not have the scope and size of the Etruscans, nobody did.
@@petarpan455Lepenski vir - 12000 years old culture
@@stevenjosephson8522not true. Etruscans are people of Balkan who used vinchan letters ( oldest European civilization, the centre in Serbia), called themselves Raseni.
@@Touchedbynature304 ua-cam.com/video/gNTaMyUPfC8/v-deo.htmlsi=wJ5W5Y4cWhsyrHQC
3:00 No Herodotus was RIGHT! As an indian i can confirm that we all have farms of massive gold digger ant so that we can earn and feed ourselves.
Herodotus clearly states that what he writes was communicated to him by people he met.
He himself does not take a position on these mythical elements.
Sus.
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@@wardafournelloi personally admire that about Herodotus. He preserved the mythology and folk legends surrounding the stories, which are as important as the actual story itself! If only every single author was as honest about the questionability of their sources but maintain their role as a ln honest scribe
Herodotus never said there were ONLY ants in India !
I read a comment once by someone who was familiar with Persian that "muš xormâye kuhi," one of the Persian terms for marmot, did bear some resemblance to the term for mountain ant, "mur kuh." So, there is a distinct possibility that Herodotus' informant mistranslated the term. This is especially true if it went through several tellers. More weight is given to this by the fact that travellers in the Himalayas have discovered that tribes there do indeed sift through the tailings left from marmots' burrowing for gold. It should also be kept in mind that Herodotus was writing for an erudite Greek intellectual class, and he expected them to be able to distinguish betwixt what he clearly said was told to him and what he stated as fact.
Thanks for that. I was going to bring that up. I don't think Herodotus intentionally made anything up. He simply reported the information he was told to the best of his ability and resources at the time. Even today we get so much wrong, so we should not be mocking someone from 2500 years ago, for making mistakes.
He would occasionally point out that he was just reciting the stories people told him in his travels. Even expressing doubts about some of it being true. Not necessarily writing about absolute historical fact but more like a collection of cultural legends and practices around various parts of the world at the time.
About the similarities between "Teresh" and Rasena. They're actually similar.
1) the "e" between Egyptian consonants are just placeholders egyptologists put for sounds we don't know (normally vowels).
2) the T is used in Egyptian as in many other Afro-Asiatic languages part of a particle (t3) used to express the "land" or "people" of/from.
3) that leaves us t(3?)-r(_?)sh(_?). So somewhat as "ta-rashena" would not be out of the question. Still a very fringe idea and I'm not a linguist and Egyptian more than a single language is a group of them over 5000 years.
They are the same word, especially if we go by the intermediate Greek "Tyrsenos" < ty-rasn(a)-os, where ty must be the Etruscan definite article "the", just as ta is the Etruscan word for "this" (apparent also in the formation of the river name Tiberis < ty - iber -is, where iber, a Vasconic word for riverside, is omnipresent from Ebros to Iberus going through Ibar in Kosovo and Tiber in Italy).
PS - I take your "t3" explanation as a possibility, although it's hard for it to explain the Greek Tyrsenos, unless it was also part of Pelasgo-Tyrsenian in the form "ty" (tü).
@@LuisAldamiz i know barely nothing about Greek or Etruscan linguistics, but it may be, quite a lot of the historical Greek derived words are actually Egyptian in origin as is the case of "Phoenician" from "fenehw"/ fnHw.
So at least it is reasonable, not too crazy :)
@@migueldeuna3261 - IDK, what does "fenehw" mean? Phoenicians seem to have been influential enough to make at least one loanword to Basque: the word for "iron": burdin, probably from Canaanite berzel, but their influence seems to be more clear in Iberia (hence Basques via ancient Iberians surely), necessarily in NW Africa and surely also in Sicily, maybe Sardinia. Otherwise in Italy I see little reason for Phoenician influence TBH.
@@LuisAldamiz a Canaanite tribe/entity/group/people who usually appear related to cedar wood trade with Egyptians.
it's mindboggling how as a Tuscan Italian I still pronounce Greek derived words with the different accentuation at the beginning of the words after nearly 3.000 years despite both Latin and Southern Italy's dialects would reflect the ancient Greek's accentuation.
I love all of your videos, but the music was really distracting in this one. Don’t let anything take away from your presentation and keep up the good work.
Noted!
I had a college class on the Etruscans and this is spot on.
Are you surprised. They all use the same template approved by the powers of today.
@@viktorbaraga4514”The powers of today” care about UA-cam videos regarding ancient Etruscans? Go to bed.
One of your best videos. Brava, Julie! I like your evidence-based approach coupled with plausible speculation. The graphics work very well
The words 'arena', 'satellite', and 'antenna' are also thought to be Etruscan. Intriguing language! Great video, Julie, as always. And you are ever so pretty. :)
Love your content Julie . You’re the best 😊
Love the vids
You are awesome! I loved this video! Thank you so much.
Thank you for *all* of your language overviews, and, even for the *advertising* on this one!
Many thanks for this great overview.
Excellent content . Congratulations from Volterra / Velathri
a quick note. the etruscans didn't "expand" to Lombardy/the po plain. they occurred there natively before being overpowered by the celts.
Excellent video Julie. I find your voice captivating.
Very interesting! Thank you.
Hungarians also had more advanced culture when arrived in Panonia?! :)
They were percieved as wild as wolves.
Hi Ms. julie
I really enjoy all of your videos, they are very well researched and educational.
Thank you so much for making them.
I just wanted to point out that I found the music in this particular video a bit loud and intrusive at times, but it was still very enjoyable.
Thanks again.
Thank you! And yes, noted for the music, thanks for pointing it out
@@JuLingo Thanks to you for answering me 😁
This is a very interesting video. Thank you very much for it.
Amazing video as always, you will always be an indispensable part of my learning process julie
Very cool ive never heard of the culture of the Etruscans ive only heard there name in passing.
Thank you! Happy you found it interesting
Gli Etruschi,erano una civiltà già sviluppata prima ancora della fondazione di Roma, costruirono navi per i loro commerci con i popoli del Mediterraneo, costruirono ponti, Strade di comunicazione, avevano ingegneri, architetti, medici,erano guerrieri ma, non Conquistatori e durante i secoli della loro presenza nei territori della Penisola tramite i loro Re, la loro cultura e la loro civilta' fu positiva per lo sviluppo della nascente civiltà Romana che in seguito, essendo i Romani Guerrieri conquistatori, sottomisero tutti i popoli della penisola Etruschi inclusi.Dopo alcuni secoli di Repubblica Romana, ebbe inizio L'impero Romano con Ottaviano Augusto primo imperatore.
A notable characteristic of their culture is that in funerary paintings and sculptures women and men are depicted as equals, at the same height and in the same dimensions. Then the famous Etruscan smile of the couple.
Etruscan smile is the archaic Greek smile.
@@anonimoantropomorfo5710 didn't know that, interesting, thank you.
@@anonimoantropomorfo5710nope, the Serbian people actually respected their wives, they were equal. This is vinchan civilization of Serbia
The couple looked North African.That's why I believe in the sea people theory.
this is great content. great job
I'm very glad to have discovered this channel. Absolutely riveting presentation with extremely clear and compelling reasoning. Having studied Roman civilization for many decades, I welcomed an updating on what is actually known about the Etruscan language and its origins and relations. Now, I'll check this video about Hungarian culture she mentioned.
Great video! ❤
Thank you! The Etruscans are underappreciated.
Great video, thanks
Thankyou! Love it
The House of the Papyri - might hold Claudius’ book. I really think those charcoaled scrolls should all be recovered before I die. Just think, that work of Claudius, Caesar’s Latin grammar, Heraclitus, and, of course, above all, Sappho!
Love the content, but hate the background music which makes it very difficult to understand what you're saying.
Please leave that out. Your videos are worth watching even more without distracting music IMHO.
I barely even notice the music. But, that just means it doesn't need to be there.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks for mentioning
@@JuLingo what music is that by the way?
It didn't bother me at all, but maybe you can just adjust the volume if it is a problem.
@@eretieluir9354 Agreed
@@eretieluir9354
Yes, the volume needs to be turned down: It was too loud on this video.
Good video. Thanks
Thanks for the video! Could you share the sources you use for your videos in the description please?
Etruscan alphabet is 'elementa' and it consists of Vincan proto-alphabet signs, just like Greek.
Exactly- oldest serbian letters
@@Touchedbynature304🤣🤣
@@e.h97Albanian , Schip or a Berber
Yes Albanian,the people you are stealing the history from 😂😂in the other comments you said - serbian genealogy-😂😂you serbs are hilarious
@@e.h97you stole everything from us thank to Austria . You came in 12th ventury from Africa , you Berber. Serbs are here forever. Skenderbeg was a Serbs , serbian king Jovan Vladimir took you in . We are Ilirians and Tracians, you are an experiment.
Love your work. 😺
Thank you! 😊
Thankyou. Thoroughly enjoyed this programme as I've heard of these people, because of Rome, but now I know a lot more.
Outstanding, thank you.
Interesting DNA results. However, the greatest diversity of clades and subclades of haplogroups is in the country of origin of certain haplogroup, but due to the "founder effect" the biggest concentration of certain haplogroups is in the country/land of colonisation, in this case in Balkans among South Slavic peoples. And smaller percentage means that contributors/ancestors were living in more distant past, and larger shares meaning more recent ancestors. And, test by some other companies could possibly have different results. I love your videos. (My final thesis at the history department was about Etruscan origins according to the Herodotus). One more curiosity: the letter for voice /f/ in shape of number 8 in Etruscan alphabet it is the same as in Lydian alphabet. And when I have done the analysis of the Lemnos stelae, I 've discovered that some words there were borrowed from neighbouring Lydian language. And there is an excellent book dealing with ancient languages : "The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the World's Ancient languages" (I have version from 2004)... The only language where I found the connection with Etruscan numerals is ancient Hurritic or Hurrian language number 3: kiq towards Etruscan "ci" /ki/. Some Russian linguists proposed connection with languages of Caucasus. In his work, in chapter unrelated to Tyrsenoi, Herodotus wrote about the city which was in his time named "Tetrapolis" and previously was known as "Hyttenia". From this is remarkable similarity with Etruscan number "huth" meaning four (4). From work of Thucydides we can find out that, in the time when author has lived (second half of 5th century BC), in peninsula Khalkidike in northern Aegean (with 3 big "fingers") in some of cities were living Pelasgians among which majority were "Tyrrhenoi"; also, the inhabitants of Lemnos according to the Thucydides were "Tyrrhenoi". Herodotus wrote that before conquest of island by the Athenians in cca. year 505 BC under leadership of Miltiades (same guy known later from battle of Marathon in 490 BC), the inhabitants of the island were "Pelasgians", having two cities on the island. Greetings from Croatia, home to the longest known Etruscan manuscript in the world ...
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
I was wondering if anything could, or would, ever be said about Etruscan genetics, because of the old stories of those present at the opening of Etruscan tombs witnessing the nearly intact remains of the deceased turn to dust before their eyes after exposure to the air.
Archeological discoveries are very random. The current assessment of Etruscan genetics is based upon a sample set. A sample set may or may not reflect the big picture. I believe the sample set's male Etruscans were R1b: that is, Indo-European. The conventional wisdom is that the Pelasgians were not Indo-European. That would have made them either Proto-European aboriginal (I1 or I2, etc.) or Anatolian Farmer (G, etc.).
Those of us directly descended from these groups might have wished to claim both the Pelasgians, and the Etruscans, as their own. The recent Etruscan genetic discoveries may disabuse us of that. Still, we must bear in mind that the conclusions of this recent research are based upon a small sample set. If we are confident of the recent research, we might consider the Pelasgian or Proto-European paternal bloodlines were either bred out or wiped out in Etruria, as they undoubtedly were in Iberia.
etrusks are turks
@@mevlutkelle4083 The language is not Turkic, and Turkic peoples did not inhabit Anatolia at the time of the alleged Etruscan migration from there.
@@barrymoore4470 hello :) , there is enough evidence that the language is turkic
7:55 I am a Hungarian who feels Balkan but is Baltic. Or actually I’m 7% Baltic and 21% Balkan which makes more sense. I’ve been thinking that I’m a little Polish because they had an alliance with the Hungarians and I wouldn’t be surprised if they could have Baltic DNA.
This is great! I love how you connect it all, the language, the people's history, the impact on other languages, even the DNA =-)
Also, the background music is beautiful, what is the name of the song, please?
A brilliant video as usual.
There are Rhaetic words that remain in the Romansh language of Switzerland 🇨🇭, Rhaetic could be a related language to Etruscan
It's unclear if Rhaetic was Tyrsenian, what is clear is however that they had adopted a variant of the Etruscan alphabet and that this variant would later produce the Futhark or Runic alphabet of the Germanics.
According to Livy many Etruscans of the Po valley found refuge among the Rethes during the celtic invasion; owing to the similarities in customs and language? Perhaps, if we look at the culture of those people (see the interesting Rethian museum in Trento which resembles to many other museums of central Italy as for the Villanovian culture.
Rhaetic was indeed related to the Etruscans, a very old relations dating back to Prehistory (the idea that the Raeti were Etruscans who fled to the Alps due to the Gallic invasions has not been considered true by archaeologists for many decades)
I would bet that the influence of Etruscan on modern languages is highly underestimated.
Considering the massive influence Latin has had on virtually all European languages, even if Etruscan had only a moderate impact on Latin, its modern legacy could still be considerable. I for one suspect Etruscan had a very large impact on early Latin. Several of the pre-republic kings of Rome where of Etruscan descent
Some have mentioned other words such as antenna, arena or satellite, mythological Latin names are also often Etruscan (Neptune, Minerva, etc., also Hades, Aphrodite and titan in Greek must be of Tyrsenian roots, April is definitely from Etruscan Apru = Venus-Aphrodite). However I want to underline Latin urbs and its derivatives (urban, etc.) because I think that it was Etruscans who brought the "uru" Mesopotamian word for "city" to the west, while the Levantine variant "iri/ili" is probably older and distributed by other peoples, always in wanderwort fashion.
@@LuisAldamiz top tier comment here!
@@felixhaggblom7562 - TY.
@@LuisAldamiz HAdes, Aphrodite, titan, are names of greek divinities and are greek words. Not etruscan. Why would you say 'must be'? That is not science, that's just wishful thinking.
Thank you, your videos are excellent and you are such an eloquent, lady. ❤😊👍
When I was a kid that loved science, I had discovery channel, but now that I still love science I have UA-camr like this that make content even better.
Well, love your videos. GREEK is a language you haven't yet analyze and i wonder why, since it is one of the most deep and important languages out there. You should have plenty of material should you choose to do a video about the Greek language! Cheers!
All languages are interesting for me and there are so many of them! But one day I'll do Greek, no worries
She mostly does lesser known languages. I don't think she's done videos on French, Spanish, German, or the other big ones either. That said, if she does one on Greek, I will watch it.
@@JuLingo That would be cool, great. Thanks and thanks for your videos as well! Great resources!
Vergogna non parlavano greco tondo
From her pronunciation she doesn't know, so it's logical and wise to avoid
Their DNA was a mixture of two-thirds Copper Age ancestry (EEF + WHG; Etruscans ~66-72%, Latins ~62-75%) and one-third Steppe-related ancestry (Etruscans ~27-33%, Latins ~24-37%) (with the EEF component mainly deriving from Neolithic-era migrants to Europe from Anatolia and the WHG being local Western European hunter-gatherers, with both components, along with that from the steppe, being found in virtually all European populations).
Antonio, Margaret L.; Gao, Ziyue; Moots, Hannah M.; et al. (November 2019). "Ancient Rome: A genetic crossroads of Europe and the Mediterranean". Science. 366 (6466). Washington D.C.: American Association for the Advancement of Science (published November 8, 2019): 708-714.
One should be aware that Altaic ( Turkic Mongolian, East Asians ...) peoples were not related to West Eurasians .
@@majidbineshgar7156 The early medieval Türk samples were modelled as having 37.8% West Eurasian ancestry and 62.2% Ancient Northeast Asian ancestry and historic Central Steppe Türk samples were also an admixture of West Eurasian and Ancient Northeast Asian ancestry
One should be aware that Europeans like to steal history and culture from other people.
@@majidbineshgar7156 ok....but he didn't mention altaic people?
@@Liethen check his name .
@@majidbineshgar7156 Ok, but he still didn't make any claims about Altaic people being related to Europeans.
I was lucky in high school to have a great history teacher. He did talk about them. And this was back in the 80s.
Very well presented, thank you.
The music is too loud.
Hey @JuLingo, I mean this in a good way and I don't want to hurt your feelings. I want to give you a cognitive scientist's tip for your future videos. It would be nice if you didn't try too hard to entertain the viewers. Nowadays it is common to use very disturbing background music in videos and to interrupt the speech so that the listener is out of breath. This is a trend, but you don't have to follow it. A better option is to think in terms of empathy, i.e. to think about who is watching the video. Of course, then you have to make generalisations, but when you are aiming for a large audience, then it is also a question of generalisations. An empathetic approach in this case means understanding what kind of people most people are who watch videos on the subject in question.
Viewers of such videos are often more interested than average in science and languages, possibly linguistics. I know a lot of people in this group and I can tell you that fast talking, distracting background music or anything like that, does not appeal to this target audience. Don't think that you have to make a video for the masses and that you have to follow some general idea of how to make videos. So, breathe, talk slower, take pauses, place background music only at the beginning and focus only on the content itself. So it's not a music video, it's not something that you have to try to keep the viewer engaged, it's not something that you have to specifically entertain them with. It's a video for people interested in this particular subject. I hope you took this in good spirit and understand what I mean.
Fascinating presentation.
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Cool and very interesting. 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
This is interesting, as usual, but the music mix is far too loud; it sounds like you're competing with it. It's really distracting.
Fascinating!
Interesting Video !! :D
Thanks! 😃
They were not natives of Italy, they were first farmers from Anatolia, and spoke a language related to Uralic.
Read Mario Alinei
PUAHAHHAHAHAH
Many things about the Etruscans remind me of Celts.
Examples ?
Language … arts … town structures … road building … bridge building .. not the ones in stone but the wooden ones.
@@xmaniac99 'language' it has absolutely nothing in common with proto Celtic
because etruscans are schytians and celts were uplifted by another scthyian tribe.
The Etruscans and the Celts, are Thracians.
Thanks. This is great.
Όλοι οι μελετητές και ξένοι αρχαιολόγοι στην πλειοψηφία πάσχουν από σύνδρομο κατωτεροτητας έναντι της ΕΛΛΑΔΑΣ και κοιτούν να σπηλωσουν την ιστορια της. Πάρτε το απόφαση γραπτά μόνο οι Ελληνες άφησαν και την ιστορία μας δεν την.μοιραζομαστε με κανεναν
According to Johannes Krause, in his book A Short History of Humanity, based on paleogenetic analysis, the Etruscan language originates from the Anatolian migration that brought farming into Europe.
The same is true for the defunct Minoan and Paleo-Sardinian languages, as well as Basque (the only Anatolian farmers' language that has survived to this day).
Old Serbs from Vincha
@@Touchedbynature304 what do you mean?
@@UltimaGainaVincha civilization of Serbia spread all over Middle East , Lydia, Lycia and Frigia. Vinchan letters are found in Lydia , the same are in Appenines. Etruscans called themselves Raseni- Ras is the area in Serbia , they had the same pottery , language , etc. The letters were being decoded long time ago by using cirilic letters that derived from vinchan as well as latin.
@@Touchedbynature304 Yes, indeed, but these were not Serbs. Like the Etruscans, Paleo-Sardinians, Minoans, Basques, etc., they were part of the stone-age Anatolian farmers' migration that spead in the South of Europe and displaced the pre-existing European hunter-gatherers.
Serbs, like all Slavic, Germanic, Celtic, Latin, and even Greek populations, are part of the third wave of migrants into Europe, the wave of Yamnaya pastoralist warriors who, invading from the Pontic steppes, overwhelmed the Anatolian farmers, committed androcide, occupied the Anatolian farmers' lands, took their women and imposed their Indo-European languages.
You said 12 thousand BC twice in the vid, but did you mean 12 hundred BC? It matters; enough to correct it.
I always enjoy your vids and recognise the amount of work you put in!
Haha yea I think she meant 1200 bc. Back in 12,000 bc we weren’t even really farming yet
@@C_In_Outlaw3817: this is now being called into question since they discovered Gobekli Tepe in Turkey which (from memory) has been calculated to be roughly 10,000 years old.
you got a new sub i love history
My father had a copy of H.W. Janson's History of Art (from a college class) that I used to read through as a child. I remember looking at the ornate furniture and bronze castings the Etruscans made, as well as the stonework they left, and thinking that I was looking at an advanced civilization. I've always been fascinated by them and wish we knew more about them.
A big % of Italian DNA comes from Anatolia (pre-turkic, mind you).
So, a relationship between Etruria and Anatolia is not only probable, but certain.
Serbian genealogy
All Europeans have DNA from Neolithic Anatolia.
@@Touchedbynature304oooooomg🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@e.h97😂😂😂😂
Etruscan was developed from Vinca script. Greek is a copy more or less from Vinca script and Latin took it from Greeks. Etruscan writing on a large stone block was deciphered using Cyrillic Serbian alphabet, which uses 28 letters from Vinca script. Comparing the letters of Vinca, Greek, Etruscan is showing which one was first. Its Vinca. Phelascians lived in mainland Greece before the Greeks arrived from the Ionian sea island. Crete is loaded with archaeological remains which are showing the presence of population before the Greeks, namely Pelasgians.
Yes, but that does not follow the official , false narrative.
Serbo mongol, calm down you have nothing to do with this history. The Cyrillic letters were given to you by the people of east Roman empire, Roman empire used different systems of writings, Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and few others. When you came in Balkan you didn’t know how to write so you took everything. You have nothing to do with vinca culture because you came thousands of years later.
@@Touchedbynature304the official narrative is correct, the serbian false narrative that can lie all day long is the one that it is false. It is a fact that you have nothing to do with those historical events. You are basically in the land of Albanians and Romanians , you are stealing their history. It is genetically proven that slavs came much later in Balkan, and if you see those paintings they depict brown skinned people and not mongols with white skin like serbs are
@@e.h97Albanians are Turkish tribe mixed with indigenous people of Balkan- Serbs
@@e.h97noone gave us nothing. You were given history by Austrians
This is just a request(may be you'll not have so much resources) can you do a video about amazigh languages?(it is a group of languages native to north Africa)
I like your videos about languages which don't get that much attention. Could you do a video about the Sorbian languages as well, please?
Thank you! Eventually I would like to do videos about all languages. I wonder how many years that would take me 🤔
One of the possible legacies of the Etruscan language may be some specific phonemes of the modern Tuscan language, mainly the sounds /kh/ and /th/ which aren't found in any other Italian language. Since Tuscany was the core land of the Etruscan civilisation, it's possible that those phonemes of the ancient language survived and evolved through Latin and remained in modern Tuscan.
As far as I'm aware, the Etruscan origins of the Tuscan Gorgia have been thoroughly disproven
No, that makes no sense. Those sounds developed from Latin in predictable ways. The same changes occurred in Germanic.
@@AnAverageItalian Oh I didn't know that, thanks
@@AmyThePuddytat I thought they were unusual because no other Italian language has those sounds. But I suppose it can be possible considering Spanish has the /kh/ sound
Etruscan is not like any "European" language.But close to Altaic and Uralic languages. Because it is agglutinative. Other agglutinative languages are Altaic languages such as Turkish (Turkic), Finnish, Hungarian (Fin - Ugor) and Uralic languages such as Korean, Japanese, Mongolian. Agglutinative languages form words by attaching various affixes to roots to denote grammatical functions. Example: plural, tense, or case suffixes are directly attached to nouns or verbs.
Noun and Verb Conjugations: For example Etruscan and Turkish use similar methods in the conjugation of nouns and verbs. In both languages, noun conjugations employ morphological markers such as plural, possessive, and case suffixes. In verb conjugations, tense, person, and mood suffixes are significant. By the way, another agglutinative language is Sumerian. However, in Sumerian there is also prefixes.
Englishborne agglutinations plentifulliate ;)
ag- glutin-ati-ve is an agglutination.
@@JanoTuotanto :) Not creating a word from another. Creating phrases with suffixes to verb's root.
Turkish: İngilizleştirebilemediklerimizdenmisiniz?
İngiliz(1)-leştir(2)-ebil(3)-eme(4+past tense)-dik(5)-ler(6)-imiz(7+we/again)-den(8) misin(10)-iz(9)?
Meaning: Are(10) you(9) one of(8) those(6) whom(7) we(5) could(3) not(4) angli(1)cize(2)?
İngilizleştirebilinememişlerdenmisiniz?
Are you one of those who could not be anglicized?
Altaic is rejected by basically every mainstream linguist, it's a sprachbund if anything. Agglutination doesn't mean that languages are related, many unrelated languages are agglutinative.
Also your obviously a troll 😂
@@unbeatable_all :) Read again what I wrote untalented troll.
Finnish and Hungarian are Uralic, not Altaic languages and definitely not in the same family with Japonic and Koreanic languages if you don't go as far as a hypothetical pre-proto-humanic language. The latter three Asian languages are in their own respective language families, not even related to each other.
Scenario two makes sense as that pattern of language from conquest while local dna persists appears so often in other places
Like your videos Julie always informative and well produced. I have a question though. Curious about your accent , what's your mother tongue?
Now I feel dumb asked this question before the video was done obviously. Response not needed.
Why you not tell us about Serbian walls around Roma city? And who make Roma city? Serbian people, Serbian Etruscan tribes. This is old Serbian cyrilic letter!
The Etruscans have nothing to do with the Serbs because the Serbs appeared in the history of the modern age, their history begins with the Slavs and no Slavic people have been in Anatolia, these days I have seen a few Slavians who call the Scythians Slavs, but all of them I could not stand scientific theses.
@@Khorasan_TurcoSerbs did not appear, they are indigenous people of Europe , in fact the oldest
@@Touchedbynature304 They appeared because before the Serbs, the proto-Hungarians, the proto-Bulgarians, the Avars, the Huns, the Pechenegs, some of the places where the Kipchaks went from nomadism to settled life, the Slavic peoples came in the form of slavery and mercenaries, that is, there were Turkic peoples there before the Slavs.
@@Touchedbynature304te word slave sayes that you created how workforce people how slaves.
Give it some time. Some albanian comments will show up
Tbh I’ve mainly opened the video to have a laugh at those comments lol
They ALWAYS do, idk what's wrong 😭
lol.....classic !!!!...best comment by far
@@giacomomoscatelli3145 as long as it remains undecipherd, Im actually cool with their theory and any other. But its still funny to find them 😅
Man, you nailed it here😂
It's a nice video, thank you, I just gave some information, We will be happy if you also make the languages of the Ural-Altaic peoples!
Wonderful and informative video, thank you very much for the deep dive!
If I could however make one suggestion, please add some variety to your music choices. It gets really distracting especially as you mix it relatively loud.
The Etruscans have connections with the Scythians and the Pelasgians.
Russians claim that Etruscans are slavic.
Serbs
Great approach!
Thanks!
Highly resembles to old turkic (orkhun) language because of a, e, i, o/u, but we have additionally "ı" for harder form of "i" and ö/ü for softer form of o/u. O and U are same letters in old turkic runic alphabet. Moreover, old turkic language also have both hard and soft sounds for many consonants like (a)t (=horse) and (e)t (=meat) are different as also B/V, D, G, K, L, N, R, S, T are similarly two different sounds for each configuration of connected hard or soft letter.
Moreover, lots of people may know that etruscan "Rasenna" and gokturk "Asena/Ashina" are very similar names and meaning shewolf that rescued and feed the boy in a bad situation and this boy has become ancestor of his nation. Also, there are paternal lineage similarities in genetics of two different people. Turkic people have P, R1a, R1b ydna paternal lineage in most common. (Dont say me indoeuropean, it is not just indoeuropean).
Moreover, I trust in Jäger (2005) philogenetic work which shows linguistic similarity of dene-caucasian (including native american, yeniseian, burushaski, sumerian, north caucasian, tyrrhenian, vasconic) and other uralic-altaic, paleosoberian, sinotibetan, austronesian languages. In this work, indoeuropean languages are linked to uralic languages closely. May indoeuropeans be descendants of siberian uralic-altaic people?
I forgot to mention about old turkic burial rituals, they were burrying their brave warriors under kurgans and their horses were being sacrificed to live and fight together in afterlife. They were burning corpses of their chiefs (or other survivally beneficent peoples) and making their ashes fly. This is a tengrist ritual aiming to make the soul reach to sky by flying. This culture may have changed to burrying the ashes under ground.
Etruscan language WAS deciphered in 1968 by Svetislav Bilbija. Not knowing about it, in the 1980-es a professor Chudinov from (what was back then) Soviet Union, also deciphered it.
Was translate from slavic language?
@@albalb6409serbian
@@albalb6409why slavic? no any relations.
@@albalb6409 Bilbija used Serbian language to deciphered Etruscan, or should we say Rasennian, they call themselves Rasenna, and first name for Serbia was Rascia…
@@naky6 Your fairy tale is very beautiful. It's a shame that when the Etruscans had their civilization, you Serbs still slept in caves. For the first time you set foot in the Balkans in the 6th century AD, and you never set foot in central Italy. These fairy tales are for people who have never had a story, but remain just a fairy tale in your dreams
Etruscans were pre-Indoeuropean Italians.
According to their DNA they are not, they had 75% Y: R1b, that is Eastern European stepper people.
@@srdjandobrota2864lol, haplogroups doesnt work like that...
Congratulations for the video and for the perfect prnonciation of Italian city names, no inflexion at all 👍
Nice vid, Im curious what you thought your ancestry was prior to the test. When I got my test I was totally taken by surprise, I always thought I was Scottish, Irish, and English (roughly speaking) - and while that is the region of origin, my genetics don't come from there, in fact I have the same haplogroup as the iceman they found in the Italian Alps - and apparently have more in common with Sardinians than I do with the English. I had NO idea, nor would there have been any way for me to know. On another note, I hope more is found out about the Etruscans, they were an interesting culture. Thanks again for the video and for showcasing your ancestry.
Etruscan were way ahead of Greeks . Etruscan women owned land and were worthy leaders . Si no they were not Greeks by tradition.
8n fact you could say in a way, the Etruscans had a form of democracy long before the Greeks made contact there. Maybe that's where they got the idea from
Iliad puts pelasgians somewhere else, thus look again where herodotus puts them. Then rasena is written in greek in yr video😮
@gentkamberi8533, it’s true, that sort of society falls in line with the Celts and Germanic tribes. Despite their language not being of Indo-European, they still probably have some dna from them and certainly cultural traits. I do know they were really good metal workers along with the Celts and collaborated in developing the long cheek guard helmets together, which in return was adopted by the Romans and Greeks, much like other Celtic technologies.
@@joshuaperkins9916 not according to ancient docs
Etrurci su sebe nazivali Raseni !
Srbi su u srednjem vjeku nazivali Rašani ili Rasi !Mađari i danas Srbe nazivaju Raci .U Srbiji cela oblast se zove Raška i grad stari grad Ras.Rusi sebe nazivaju Rasi ,dakle isti koren etnonima RAS !
They're not that mysterious: they were along the Lemnians the last of the Pelasgo-Tyrsenian peoples, who dominated Asia Minor and parts of the Balcans (Vinca and Dimini culture notably) for a very long time, deriving ultimately from the Halaf culture of Upper Mesopotamia and bringing Y-DNA J2 to Europe first of all. They were indeed the Teresh = Tyrsenoy and there's no contradiction whatsoever with Rasna, because "ty" was (necessarily) the Etruscan definite article ("the" in English, compare with ta = this in documented Etruscan); ty-rasna = tyrsen-os = the Etruscan, this we also see in the name of the Tiber river, which was ty-iber-is (Etruscan article - Vasconic core - Latin nominative suffix).
Mythologically Tyrsenians left a massive legacy in Greece: Aita > Hades, karun > Charon, Titos (Tinia for Etruscans but Titos in Asia Minor) > Titans, Apru > Aphrodite, etc. They also get various oriental words like Nept (Neptune) == Nephtis (Egyptian goddess of the waters) or Lukumon (king) == Lugal (king in Sumerian) or probably also the *uri root of Latin "urbs", otherwise common in the Mediterranean in the ili/iri form instead, which is Levantine, while uru is Mesopotamian and also spread to Dravidic India.
Etruscans were massively influential in Rome, which was no doubt partly created and ruled by them; the alphabet we're using is a barely modified Etruscan alphabet, the Roman forum was drained and built by Etruscan engineers and Romans depended on Etruscan sages for interpreting the lightning (Latin divination was about entrails and the flight of birds but they knew nothing of reading the thunderbolts).
Etruscans/Teresh arrived to Italy c. 900 BCE, four centuries after the Celto-Italics but before these were consolidated in Central-South Italy yet. They almost certainly arrived along with another "sea people": the proto-Phoenician Shekelesh, which ended up in Sicily and coalesced into the Sicels, giving Sicilians a unique Syrian-like type of genetics that doesn't exist anywhere else in Europe.
Come si chiamano i Balcani in quello tempo
@@yllidomi2772Hlm. Vinchan civilization
The Pelasgians are the ancestors of the Serbs or one of the related tribes from the Balkans who spoke the same language. Svetislav Bilbija deciphered the Etruscan language using the Serbian language while he was in Italy during the Second World War, and even we who are not experts in languages understand a lot of it, although Etruscan is sometimes written from right to left, sometimes from left to right, so that the next row continued in the opposite direction. Sometimes it is written spirally, and sometimes in anagrams.Etruscan originated from the Vinčan script, as well as the Serbian alphabet, of the 30 letters that we use in our alphabet, 20 or 22 were taken from the Vinčan script, hence the similarities between the Serbian and Etruscan languages, which, like other tribes from the Balkans, were spoken by the Pelasgians as well as the Greeks when came to the Balkans, but since it was impossible for them to pronounce the old letters, they later created an alphabet by spreading it in present-day Greece, just as the Romans did the Latin alphabet.
There are no conections of serbs with pelasgians. Slavs are the last tribes arrived in Illirian peninsula. First of all u should read /learn much more histoire .stop with this manipulated ,dogmatik /fake of your church and state history that u have learned in schools.
@@user-yq8ol9ps8g You actually studied and proved it all.
According to DNA evidence Etruscans were native people in the Italian peninsula . So finally we know theirs origins
2:58 As kids, were told an ultrashort bedtime story about a green pig who had an ant.
Took me more than 20 years to realize that my Slovak-American father (who spoke ten languages) meant an 'aunt'. Never made sense before that why a pig should have an 🐜.
It doesn't make much sense for a pig to have an aunt, either, lol.
@@MatthewTheWanderer The sow's sister🐖. When he went to market or stayed at home, had roast beef or not, she was always there for him along with mom?
@@zetristan4525 I guess that makes sense, but why is the pig green?
@@MatthewTheWanderer In the Emerald City, for example, weren't all pigs green?!🐽🌱😉
Even today in south of Albania is Tosk dialect
This is very interesting, but why is the music so loud?
The most interesting question still is: How did the Etruscan language SOUND? The written language does not say much about a language, see French. And unfortunately we can´t say much about that aspect. Unless there are lyric sources.
Etrurski (Raseni ,kako su sebe zvali imaju natpis "ALA SIPA ŽAR " na Srpskom isto znači "Ala(zmaj) sipa (bljuje )ŽAR(vatru ) ,dakle radi se o proto Srpskom jeziku !
That's right
Dude slavs migrated to the balkans in the 6th and 7th century and you want to tell us they made it and created a culture in todays italy like 10 centuries earlier. Demn that is creative
😂
@@jonipn2773Dude, do you know that in the whole Italy there a lot of toponyms that have a Serbian ethnonyms or the same or similar names as in the Serbia and do you know that 17 Roman emperors came from Serbia, and do you also know that the oldest European culture is 8000 thousand years old on earth today's Serbia,
the so-called Vinča culture?Serbs immigrated in the 7th century! forget it, there is no archeological artifact that proves it except the DAI of Constantine Porphyrogens VII written in the 10th century and which is not the original but a copy from the 16th century. Written by the Catholic Church as a political pamphlet to prove the existence of Croats in Balkan in the 7th century of course it is not true, Croatian historians arch.Prof. Dr. Pija Šmelcelj Novaković also admit that "Croats are not a medieval people"
Read Dalmil's Chronicle, the oldest Czech document, which claims the same; Serbs are one of the 70 nations that built the Tower of Babel and spread to Rome!
@@jonipn2773 Dude, do you know that in the whole Italy there a lot of toponyms that have a Serbian ethnonyms or the same or similar names as in the Serbia and do you know that 17 Roman emperors came from Serbia, and do you also know that the oldest European culture is 8000 thousand years old on earth today's Serbia,
the so-called Vinča culture?Serbs immigrated in the 7th century! forget it, there is no archeological artifact that proves it except the DAI of Constantine Porphyrogens VII written in the 10th century and which is not the original but a copy from the 16th century. Written by the Catholic Church as a political pamphlet to prove the existence of Croats in Balkan in the 7th century of course it is not true, Croatian historians arch.Prof. Dr. Pija Šmelcelj Novaković also admit that "Croats are not a medieval people"
Read Dalmil's Chronicle, the oldest Czech document, which claims the same; Serbs are one of the 70 nations that built the Tower of Babel and spread to Rome!