What If CATHOLIC'S Won The 30 YEARS WAR? (Ft. Possible History)
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
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The 30 Years War is one of the most complicated and important wars in human history. Today we are exploring what would have happened if the Catholics won the 30 years war. What if the Habsburgs won the 30 Years War. What if Austria won the 30 Years War. What if Spain won the 30 Years War.
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0:00-30 Years War
2:25-Catholic Coalition
6:06-Relations with France
13:59-End of War
17:35-Long Term Consequences
As a Hapsburgs simp, i can only dream about this 😢 or maybe play as Austria or castile in eu4😃
Virgin Pope is bad
Vs
Chad Habsburg marry your own sister to get bigger chin.
All my homies hate France
eww, habsburg jaw be goofy ahh ewww.... I WON FAIR AND SQUARE! LAAT DIE HARSBUGERS MAAR OPDONDEREN!
As a bourbon enjoyer I see this as an absolute l
@@SretroOfTheNortheastPlease play against each other
you know its a good video when my 2 favourite and underrated youtubers collabe to create absolute masterpieces, Please continue all of your stuff!
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For real, these 2 make an amazing ammount of videos of incredible quality
I misspoke at 15:20, the Peace of Munich was signed on January 2, 1642, NOT in 1842. I also accidentally said France joined the Catholic League, when it was the Catholic Coalition, sorry about that
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Suggestion for a new topic:
What if Constantine III stayed in Britannia in 407 AD and kept the province Roman? Instead of fighting in Gaul, he strengthens this outpost to become "Nova Romana", which years later the Saxons would have problems taking it for themselves.
Another great video. I think a good list of alternate scenarios for future videos could be:
1. What if the Jacobites successfully reconquered the British crown?
2. What if the mongols conquered the Mamluks?
3. What if the Brazilian empire survived?
4. What if Japan became catholic?
5. What if the new world discovered the old world?
6. What if Spain won the Spanish-American War?
7. What if the Crusades succeeded?
8. What if the French Revolution failed?
9. What if Carthage conquered Rome?
10. What if Catherine the Great successfully restored the Byzantine empire?
"What if Japan became Catholic" would be awesome
Congrats on the shout out from Possible history! You're making strides man!
Thanks for the love
@@Videntis.History Great video as always. What If Turkey was Communist? What if Iraq was Communist? What if an Independent Communist Assyria was created by the Soviets?
What if Iran was a Communist Marxist-Leninist Republic today?
What if China converted to Nestorian Christianity? (with a heavy Confucian-Taoist influence)
What if Turkey became an Islamic-Fascist Republic after ww1?
What if Brazil was communist?
What iv
With the Thirty Years War cut shorter, one of the Catholic powers would invade England during the English Civil War to help the Royalists.
Well, probably not. Or even if they'd do, it would probably fail. If your interested, I'll try to explain
@@gergelylaszlo5463 I am interested, please go on.
@@gergelylaszlo5463 im interested, if that counts
@@voltageesq. The Catholics had no intention of helping the royalists (Unless Charles I converts to catholicism which I doubt) because the royalists were still mostly protestants. All the catholic irish confederates helped Charles, it wasn't out of love for the king (They themselves revolted against the king in 1641) but more because they viewed Charles as a better, more tolerant ruler as there was no chance they'd accept a parliament ruled by presbytarians and puritans. After all, the anglican church still very much rejected papal power, so the catholic powers wouldn't support either side. At best, I can imagine the spanish building up a huge armada like they did in 1588 to exploit the political chaos in England to take over the crown of England and re-convert them to catholicism, but even that is far-fetched in my opinion.
@@gergelylaszlo5463 damn that IS interesting you were right
As always, great video, and also great that you and Possible History are collaborating.
I have 4 suggestions for videos:
1. What if Spain remained an important Empire in the XIX Century by: Keeping the Philippines, conquering Morocco, and maybe keeping Cuba and Puerto Rico (I think you're doing this one, so take it as a reminder).
2. What if Al-Andalus never collapsed?
3. What if China became Muslim and Japan Christian?
4. What if the Omani Ibadi Empire never collapsed? (I may help you with this one because I know a lot about Oman and Ibadism).
That's interesting
For the 3rd one Japan would quite literally have not only anime but GOD on their side
What if Poland and Russia united under one banner i wanna see it
Unholy aliance
It was almost possible. Poland almost got their monarch on Russian throne but Cleregy stopped him from converting to Orthodoxy to be able to get Russia
Russian empire banner after Napoleonic wars 👀👀👀, communist banner after ww2 👀👀👀
Polish Lithuanian Muscovy Commonwealth under Warsaw rule??? 😳🙋♂️
They would look for icefree ports and the coqueast of Istanbul.
Here are exciting ideas for alternate history scenarios: What if Elisabeth Joanna of Holstien-Gottrip ( mother of Catherine the Great) had lived and returned from exile and had made herself regent for her grandson Paul, the future Tsar ( Emperor) of Russia? What would be the motivations for Elisabeth Joanna of Holstein- Gottrop to make herself regent for Paul? What would she gain from it, and would Elisabeth Joanna be the mother figure her grandson Pual wanted from his mother? Would Elisabeth care for Paul or only use it to get power and make herself the new Tsar of Russia?
What if Oda Nobunaga survived and became the first Shogun of Japan? What would a Nobunaga Shogunate be different than a Tokugawa Shogunate ruling Japan instead? What direction could Oda Nobunaga take with him, Shogun of Japan, and would his first acts as Shogoun, and what would his policies and reforms benefit Japan? Could Japan win the Imjin War with Oda Nobungaga's leadership, and could Japan annex all of Ming China? Or is that impossible?
What if Rani of Jhansi ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rani_of_Jhansi) had survived the battle of Gawlior by retreating and became the leader of the Indian Rebellion of 1857 and unify all of India and restore the Maratha Empire? Could Jhansi ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhansi_State) be the new capital of a united India with a revived Martha Empire, and would Rani Lakshimbal become the Empress of a united India, or it be her adoptive son Damodar Rao the Emperor of India?
Which of these scenarios do you like best, Mr. Videntis? And which of the three scenarios are your favorites, and which have you never heard of?
What if Hanover remained in person union with Britain (both inherited by Queen Victoria) would be an interesting scenario
Suggestion - What if the French and Austrians won the Seven Years War.
A very interesting scenario!
I didn't know about the fact that the Spanish almost captured Paris in 1635. This as you said would have led to a complete domination of Europe by the Habsburgs. Thus centralizing the HRE and creating an universal monarchy.
The one thing that I don't think would have happen, would be the conquest of Russia. Wladislaus IV Vasa would have invaded Russia in order to take its throne and most likely ended like Karl XII or Napoleon in our timeline. The russians wouldn't have accepted a monarch that wanted to replace Orthodoxy with Catholicism. They already in otl resisted any such attempt like in 1242 or when Poland occupied Moscow in 1612 and even with a state of total anarchy, the Russians still repelled them. If Wladislaus had invaded Russia like in your scenario he would have failed.
Even with a disorganized and a badly equipped army they would have won thanks to the vastness and inhospitable environment of Russia. Napoleon wasn't defeated by the Russian army but by Russia itself.
That's my opinion on what would have happened.
3:03 Thanks for the shout out man! Gonna make sure to always give you interesting ideas!
Thanks for the idea!
Suggestion: What if Henry V of England Survived and birthed a dual monarchy?
um yes please!
unlikely
sooner or later the french lords would have removed his son
He would’ve been the third English king called “the great”
@fakemanspider4939 whom is the second? There's only one king called the great and that's Alfred.
@@mappingshaman5280 cnut the great
as a spaniard i love this scenario, finally a united iberia, with full control over the americas, we could see an america full of spaniards, and of course all pf the peoples of those civilisations there too. ¡Plus Ultra!
Glad you liked it
All thou I love this cenario I don't think anyone could turn Poland into a full absolut monarchy without a military intervention
Yes! Been waiting for Habsburg love for a long time! Thanks man!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤
Hope you enjoyed it!
I love that the Russians and English are just chilling this entire time.
Me encantaría seguir viendo los posibles escenarios a lo largo de la historia. Sigue así.
Other ideas:
1. What if Gran Colombia still existed?
2. What if the Japanese Empire never collapsed?
great video!
suggestions:
What if the Kalmar union still existed?
What if the Mongol empire never formed?
Thanks for the idea!
@@Videntis.History What if Korea converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity?
What if New Zealand was colonised by Portugal?
What if the Amazon was a Hot Desert, while the Sahara was a Rainforest?
What if an Independent and modernized Guarani Kingdom existed today in the 21st century?
What if Ancient Iran industrialized?
What if Europe converted to Zurvanism? (or Zurvanite Zoroastrianism)
What if the Kingdom of Syria still existed?
What if Syria was a Communist country today?
What if England/the U.K. colonized Indonesia?
What if the Dutch colonized Australia?
What if China was a Colonial Superpower? (with Settler colonies like Britain)
What if the Hittites survived till today?
Glad to see my 2 favorite alt hist channels cooperate
22:00 What a beautiful sight. Long live the Habsburgs! AEIOU!
Suggestion: What if Constantine suceeded Alexander I as Emperor of Russia and liberizaced it earlier?
I feel relieved this shit never took place.
What if Wladyslaw III crushed the Turks at Varna leading to a Catholic domination and ending House Osman before they could dominate the Bridge of Europe and Asia (delayed discovery of America? Massive Poland? Christian Brethren United?)
Really interesting.
I have suggestions for videos, also at the time of Ferdinand II Trastamara of Aragon's death he actually had a cousin who was a surviving male line of the aragon Trastamara line Henry, Count of Ampurais and Duke of Segorbe who's father was Henry Duke of Villena 2nd son of Ferdinand I. Also at one point Ivan the Terrible had proposed marriage to Elizabeth I
1. What Ferdinand II of Aragon's son with his second wife Germaine of Foix survived.
2. What if Ferdinand made his cousin his heir or his cousin took the throne.
3. What if Francis had agreed to help Henry VIII in persuading the pope to change his ruling of his (Henry's) marriage to Anne being illegitimate.
4. What if Catherine of Aragon had died in the Sweating Sickness outbreak in 1528.
5. What if Elizabeth's marriage negotiations with Francis youngest son Charles had not fallen through and she ended up marrying him and had a son that inherited England and eventually France.
6. What if Mary (Henry VIII's daughter) had married Philip, Duke of Palatinate-Neuburg.
7. What if Victoria had married Alexander of the Netherlands instead of Albert.
8. What if the Pope had ruled in Henry VIII's favor in The King's Great Matter.
9. What if Elizabeth I had married Ivan the Terrible and had a son that inherited England and Russia.
I could see the great Britain and the ottoman will United against the hasburg as replacement of Spanish war of succession
Hey man, amazing video keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Damn, your mapping and editing is REALLY good. I’m commenting for the algorithm!
Thanks so much
Old fan of yours your keeping up your good work as usual!
Much appreciated!
Found you from Possible History. Cool stuff!
Glad you liked it
@@Videntis.History 👍🏼
How come I can't see this through your channel and only through Possible History's video description? This video is probably unlisted.
I saw it just fine.
@@crusader2112 Looks like it was made public after I(?) brought attention to it.
@@missingmochigumanofficial 👍
There was miscommunication on the time we were gonna publish
It’s refreshing to see an alt history that doesn’t shy away from factoring in how butterfly effects might change geopolitics across the globe. The Hapsburg colonial empire you’ve created here is the kind of thinking alt history fans have been looking for. Hopefully there will be a part 2. Extrapolating from events so far it seems unlikely Prussia will ever rise to unify or dominate the German states. It happens a different way decades earlier or later. But it also means neither world war occur - at least not with the same allies/axis line up, or start/end dates. Looks like Catholic Ireland could experience a Golden Age in this timeline. There’s so many possibilities here.
Awesome video! Please do a what if Burgundy was successful with Charles the Bold!
2 of my favourite UA-camrs making vid sceanarios together 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Suggestion: make an alternate history that results in an eternal global empire where literally all of humanity are subjects to a single flag or king until the end of organized civilization.
Check out what would have happened if the Protestant's won the 30 years war on Possible History's channel: ua-cam.com/video/zydfGltLad8/v-deo.html
Already did!😊😊😊😊
Link down
Blud got the goofy ahh collab 🗣🗣
I love his channel, my favorite video is the martian 1913 video, my favorite series is "what if everything went perfect for X country"
HOW DO U DO THIS MAPS THEY ARE SO GOOOOOD
Another great vid man, I got some alt his suggestions here, would be interesting to see your take on them:
What if Japan won the Imjin War?
What if Japan continues to liberalize and not be taken over by the militarist during the 1930s and onward? (Wholesome Japan larp across Asia?)
Awesome two videos.
Glad you enjoyed it
The whole way through the video I thought about England.
What are the English doing there, sitting on the sidelines while watching a threatening super-Habsburg being created and their protestant allies slaughtered???
Everyone opposed to the unfolding events are just laying the hands in their laps, and let the Habsburgs steamroll them. (like the Swedish and Polish nobility - no revolts??)
Great video
A lot of Protistant Germans would leave for the Americas or south Africa. The former dutch colonies in Indonesia would be safe haven for them too. If there would a Habsburg Pope he will declare a new crussade to reconquer Constaninople and the Holy Land.
What if the crusades succeeded?
Here's a unique scenario what if humans had longer life spans
You should do a Part 2
Nice video Thedentist
Glad you enjoyed it
“Videntis”
Great video! Also a suggestion: what if the First Mexican Empire survived. Another suggestion: what if the United States Conquered Canada during the American Revolution
Or if they were also taxed and had rebelled alongside the US
If Louis died, the Pope wouldnt need to annull the marriage. Marriage ends at death
Can you please make a part 2 of this video?
your channel is so fucking good
Thanks
@@Videntis.History got here through Possible History, this video has been one of your most realistic ones, would love some takes on Dutch alt-history :D
I was literally the 4.000th like. Now im waiting for the party 2
That was really interesting
Excelente vídeo
Thanks
This is amazing, Mr. Videntis. The Habpurgs won the 3o thirty years war, giving the Haburgs more power in Europe, and I never expected the Hapburgs to rule France. I don't know if the English envy the Habpurgs to rule France or be frightened. France is now under their despicable rival even the English see the French as their rivals. Wladslaw IV Vasa is an Hapburg that shocked me the most, and who the Polish are actually related to the Habsurbs, and if they're related, then come the Vasas never tried to help the Habsburgs in the first place? But the ending and conclusion are gorgeous and impressive, with the Holy Roman Empire under the Hapburg dynasty managing massive colonization in North and South America along some lands in Africa, India, and Indonesia. But all the members of the Habsburg Dynasty ruling all those lands is an expressive feat making them the true heir of Charlemagne and successor of Rome, and that is an extensive empire they have made. This is a great collaboration video; Mr. Videntis and Mr. Possible History; please keep up the great work and stay positive, my friends. No matter what happens and what anybody says, remember you guys are worthy of respect and recognition for putting your effort into making these videos. I'm glad I get to see this fantastic content, and you guys made UA-cam an actual place for learning and community. Don't you forget that!
Pt 2 please!
Hello mate, could you make a video about the yugoslavia republic and what would have happend if it still existed ? Like your videos
Thanks for the idea!
Really cool map
Mega Habsburg Europe. I like it.
Lang Lebe De Kaiser!
Habsburg Russia okay that’s cursed.
Pretty cursed
Would love to see a video on if mauryan empire or the chola empire survives
Catholics did win the 30 Years War--the French Catholics, that is. Spanish-Imperial forces destroyed the Swedish army at Nordlingen, leading to the dissolution of the Swedish-led Protestant alliance. Cardinal Richelieu correctly saw the Hapsburgs were closing in on France. France intervened to save the Protestants and declared war on Spain. France paid more subsidies to Sweden to stay in the war (25% of Sweden's budget was paid by France), invaded Spanish Italy, and allied with the Dutch to invade Spanish Netherlands. France won and so became Europe's predominant power for over a century. The greatest political consequence of the 30 Years War was a rebalancing of power...between Catholic France and Spain.
Hey, I started watching You from yesterday and I very liked Your channel. I would be interested in video "What if Poles migrated to Germany after fall of Carolingian Empire" ? Poles I mean Polish ofc. Have a nice day/evening/morning/night or any time You read this in.
Good idea
the good ending
This is absolutely insane, needs a part 2
Do what if the spanish armada had concored britan
Please do how and what if the ottomans conquered all of Europe stretching from Siberia in the east and Lisbon Portugal in the west and brining it under direct rule please do this alternate history scenario.
What if Frederick II united Italy and survived longer than 1250 (at 56 years). It's a curious "what if".
Daniel really slipped something in this video.
What if Europe, Middle East, America and Africa had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?
What do you think about a video in which you describe what whould have happened if Napoleon balkanized most of the european empires. For example: spliting spain into Galicia, castile, navarra, leon , aragon and catalonia, and establish all these states as client states. Also for th Austrian and Ottoman empire who were multicultural and contained many ethnicities and religions.
Here's a fun what if scenario but also Hitler's worst nightmare Slavic Germany there were slapping people that did live in East Germany and modern day Prussia if I got this idea from ck3😅
This map is pretty beautiful
Best ending
Please do a what if Baldwin the Leper King lived longer
Could you do: What if the Protestants won the 30 years war?
yeah at some point, its just that Possible History just made a video on that so
1. Great Video 2. What if carthage won the 1. Punic war could be a good idea
Mais vídeos sobre os Habsburgos. Mais vídeos agora!!! Hahahaha Obrigado por falar sobre essa família. Ficou legal.
I can't allow the HRE to exist in any paradox game
I imagine this would have intensified the inbreeding issue, and I feel like this would have brought them to into a decline as new upstart houses seize the opportunity to depose the growingly incompetent Habsburgs.
What were Savoy and Venice doing during all of this?
Just saying, the Spanish King had no centralised power by the XVII century. Centralisation would go with enlightened despotism. Here we talk about a Polysynodial regime. Aka the king governs over several political entities and recognise them.
Note: I realised you got a big trouble when it comes to understand the political entities.
Absolutely based AEIOU forever also given me an idea for a new eu4 campaign
Hope your campaign is successful
@@Videntis.History thanks my friend keep up the good work
@@Videntis.History also an idea for a future video about the 7 years war or Spanish succession and the brothers war with a habsburg victory
I'd like to see a Re-Christianization of the lands the muslims took from the Byzantine Empire by the Habsburg Dynasty. They'd have the power and motivation of a unified Europe to do so and avenge the lands lost to the musilm conquests. (It's interesting thinking that a Dynasty existed in Europe since usually only heard about Dynasties in Ancient Egypt or in China.)
AWSOME CHANEL DUDE
Glad you like it
22:18 you miss Philippines to be marked bec spain is under Harrisburg and Philippines is Spanish colony
Here's a funny video idea and this could be a series videos basically what if Queen Elizabeth the First of England married her suitors because she had a lot king of Spain the king of Denmark Sweden Ivan the Terrible version many men want her hand in marriage though I've always found the Ivan Terrible marriage proposal the most interesting😅
nice!
Sigismund had been king of Sweden, but didn’t have the honorary title of grand Duke of Finland. This title was only given once, to his father by his father, when he gave his sons own dukedoms in the late part of his rule. The provinces on the east side of the Bothian sea were integrated parts of the Swedish realm.
plz make what if the hueguenots won in france
10:00 I'm pretty sure England would have at least tried to intervene at this point 😅
We were a bit busy having a civil war and trying to prevent Scotland from keeping their king in charge of us.
@@mappingshaman5280 Excuses.
@@Thomas_Namethe english civil war was chaos their is no way they could've intervened
Great video because I’m catholic
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Could you make a video on what if italy never united ?
You should do, what if the Mongol empire never collapsed
This is outright apocalyptic
Very nice
Thanks
More please, more more more
Could you do a video on central America? Perhaps if the federal republic of central America didn't collapse
England 'chuckle's' "im in danger"
Yeah they would’ve been screwed
Hasburg: after a long war they become the dominant family in all of Europe and the world
Inbreeding: *Im going to end this family's whole career*
😂
Thoroughly, epically based.