I can't hardly use skippy he sucks and ik its because I turned it on puppy loving mode but doesn't it switch modes permanently after a certain amount of kills
@@Controversially_Nerdy and you know he would be into it because he was always in love with being more machine then human something him and Morgan blackhand had in common
@HojiDaSquirrel STOP feeding my addition hahaha. Jk jk. It does work well given he is machine obsessed. If anything this would be the ultimate machine vs flesh move, as you pointed out. You are pinned. And most likely a future short will come out of this 🙃😇
@@Controversially_Nerdy Let's gooooooo I'm always happy to help my knowledge of games and story here's another free one, in the Original books and bored games Jonny Silverhand was designed after David Bowie and when 2077 was being made they wanted him to play Jonny in game before his unfortunate death, there was talk however of wanting to use early AI to put him in the role
@HojiDaSquirrel 🥲 tragic choom. On one hand I could see the negative backlash. But it would have been very cyberpunk 😞. Still smart choice by cdpr. Another short topic thooo, preeem!
Does he really say that in the anime? I'm on the last episode... I hope he says that in the anime... That's such a badass line. Utter badass. Unless you made that up just now, then you're the utter badass.
HA! I took so long typing that message, whilst watching Edgerunner, that he literally just said the line. JUST NOW! It was 100% as epic as I expected. I wish that Smasher was as big of a badass in the game, as he was in the show. Give the shiiiii-ns!!!some challenge and badassery. Yep. Smasher's shins are tooo easy. He absolutely, unequivocally, beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt... Skipped leg day. I'm talkin' like more than once or twice too... Fat guy with some skinnyyyy shins. Fat guy with some skinnyyyy shins! Ahhh... Yeah. I need some sleep. Bad. Asf.
@@derekspringer6448 Honestly I wish I could take credit but I’m not as cold as smasher, because not only did he literally and figuratively destroy David with that line alone. He destroyed everything that made David “special” or feel special in anyway. David built himself up and around his Sandi entirely, but Smasher? He already had how many cybernetics at the point he got his Sandi and was pretty much “yes this will be exceptional tool to my arsenal.” So from Smashers pov I can completely understand how much of a joke that really is, this boy who built himself around his Sandi and thought he was special. But that is no diss on David in anyway shape or form even Smasher said he had fun and choom lasted a decent amount of time against him all things considered, and became that nightcity legend…
@@derekspringer6448have u played since update 2.1? they gave him self ice, ground and pound, a laser, and a sandevistan that I thought made his fight harder
If you wanna realize how op V is remember that David had to start popping psychoactive meds with just the sandevastan and started to snap with a few more basic mods while V can get the same sandy and enough chrome to make a maelstromer blush and still not need any meds with or without the relic
Yeah, put in enough time before the heist and you can pretty much fully mod yourself before ever getting the biochip. V's just different. If it weren't for the biochip's nanites or whatever quite literally rewriting V's brain, I doubt V would've even had a problem with it. Straight up born to chrome and kick ass.
@@Alyrael. It’s not the chrome that makes you go over the edge, it’s the loss of ones own humanity via disenfranchisement, it’s a mental health issue, not a chrome issue.
It has been stated by the creator of CP2077’s ‘verse that Adam is a High-Functioning Cyber-Psycho, and is able to function normally because he was already in the same mental state before getting chromed
technically he already is. He is a full psycho who gets off on killing people. He was a psycho before he went full borg. Cant go cyberpsycho if he is already a psycho.
He has always been a cyberpsycho, the thing is, cyberpsychosis is strongly implied to not be real, just a catch all term for abnormal or unwanted behaviour. Not all cyberpsychos go on a knife rampage inside a mall.
His profile in the database says that his humanity was already questionable before his conversion. I like to think that most of us are taught to believe that all people have some good in them somewhere, but in truth, there are those rare accidents of nature or breeding in which some people really are just born broken. Smasher was born without humanity, and tried to fill that void with machinery, but he just became an addict whose life revolves around the next upgrade.
There's another similarity between Smasher and Bartmoss other than hybrid gear. They're both "not right in the head". Both of them are, quite honestly, psychos. Smasher may murder people for fun, but Rache doesn't have that much more regard for most other humans beyond a few friends like Spider Murphy. The biggest difference is Rache is fixated on hating corps and other authorities beyond everything else, which directs him in a direction which usually aligns with the PCs who get fucked over by corps and therefore he's one of the "good guys". Smasher just enjoys killing people, full stop, and working for Arasaka gives him what he wants.
Dammmnnn why you gotta involve my favourite character! But yeah when you put it that way, they are pretty similar 😭😭😭. Rache really could care less about other gonks, man is hell bent on just exposing corpos.
Well...he was in love with spider Murphy. He even made a little prank sexualized avatar thingy of her for the net to mess with her after he was gone, because deep down he was attracted to her. He admitted it in the end if memory serves..once it was too late for him. He had good reasons to hate most people, honestly thats probably why I like him... I know how he felt. He was screwed over pretty bad and honestly most people just suck. Smasher was just psychotic, enjoyed murder and actively sought out jobs he could have collateral damage on.
They should make it so he adapted during it like if ur using a sandy he'll use his to keep up ( like in edge runners ) or if you dont have anything he'll just activate his berserker and if you try to hack him well just do what they did when lucy tried to hack him, he needs phases were he gets more aggressive and thats it
@@julious129I don't think he should be impossible to hack, as that would punish people for going with hacking builds, but he should definitely be nearly impossible
The new 2.0 fight is a lot better. He takes more than like 2 minutes to kill and the fight has multiple phases. Much more in line with how a hyper-enhanced psychopath superhuman should be.
Thanks for explaining this. I hate how people are confused how the mech was for him but never installed it and ends up destroying it. Time of development it may have been his strongest state, but by the time it was manufactured and "feild tested"... Smasher definitely had the custom dragoon suit set up with the sandy by then which he prolly perfered more then relying on "anti-grav" tech
See I can’t see V being that strong ahhaha. Smasher is the end game character. Not even Blackhand bested him. So by admitting V is more powerful I’d also have to admit V is the most powerful in the entire lore. I just can’t admit that 😤
@@Controversially_NerdyQuestion if they make Smasher as strong as he is in the source material and V still beats him will you accept that V is the strongest in the universe
Its not that smasher is particularly good, just everyone else is an idiot. Blackhand the legendary solo weapon of choice was a rifle with less power than ar-15. A single shot of .50bmg ETE AP or 20mm autocannon(which us army had manportable in 2020 and wasnt even considered heaviest weaponry for power armor) would kill smasher but people fighting him decide to use low caliber pistols and rifles. That also canonically applies to V, from weapons used in game only the single sniper rifle and the turret MG should actually be able to damage a full borg.
Bet you Smaaher changed suits when fighting V. He probably saw V (anyone else with V) as nothing but roaches that he doesn't need one of his stronger suits.
At the same time i believe V is canon to be a ridiculously strong person (cyborg) too. That is also canon. Either way i can just as easily see adam coming back, since we know engrams are a thing and that they can bring back versions of people
@@luclin92I doubt Arasaka would just let their number one, attack dog, just die. He’d most likely has lots of engrams, maybe even being updated with his current memories. Like, imagine killing Adam Smasher, then a few days later, he just blows a hole in your wall and starts beating you up, for killing him
In the original Tabletop RPG game he was in, the Player Handbook basically described him as "the unbeatable boss that scares the sh** out of you and puts into perspective how weak you actually are in the lore." Even at the highest levels in-game, he is gonna be the boogyman that makes max level players scared to go to sleep at night. The idea is that all of his stats are maxed out and his skills/cybernetics are SUPERHUMAN and completely unattainable by any Player Character no matter what they try. His list of cybernetics is high end and EXTREMELY long, choom. Reading each one stat and cybernetic individually puts into perspective how terrifying he is in lore. They practically describe him as a MYTH because nobody survives an encounter with him. You cannot hack him, you cannot hit him, you can only run and hope his maxed out weapon skills don't get you. And you sure as s**t aren't gonna dissuade him from sending you straight to Jesus. He is unironically, seriously a psychopath in lore and owns it like nobody else ever will His list of cybernetics alone is TERRIFYING because it's basically a novel length description of all of the highest end cybernetics in universe wrapped together into a machine of brutality and unrivaled animosity. To sum up the words of the PHB into a short phrase: "RUN. Do not attempt to fight Smasher. F***ing RUN." Unlike other legends of Night City, who frequently fall short of the legends, ADAM SMASHER DOES NOT. He is EXACTLY what is described in the urban legends of Night City. In a single sentence: Adam Smasher is to the OG lore and expanded universe what V is to 2077.
I still believe that Bartmoss was the most powerful character in the Cyberpunk lore, but I love the concept of Smasher being how he was intented to be: A f*cking OP villain and immune to "plot armor" characters.
Woah. I never noticed where his pieces came from. Adam is essentially using his brain as a CPU to his chrome platform. Ya boy has a love for that Samson model.
The reason why V curbstomps Smasher with such ease is because V themself is inhumanely good. For the past several days V has been merging with Johnny Silverhand, gaining experience at an accelerated rate, growing exponentially. And with nothing left to lose, they have also been pumping in new cybernetics as if there's no tomorrow... since there likely isn't. By the time Smasher and V clashed, V has become an army of one, much like Smasher.
The reason why V curb stomps Smasher because of poor gameplay design. And Johnny Silverhand was a singer, he was never known for fighting, the entire memory sequence in Arasaka tower is either a ridiculous retcon or a lie fabricated by Johnny, Morgan Backhand did that to Smasher not johnny, who’s a serial narcissist and over-inflator. Hell the whole “johnny silverhand sends his regards.” Line that your V can say to smasher is met with “are you fuckin joking?” As if to imply that Johnny was an ant beneath his boot that Smasher only vaguely remembers, backed up further by Johnny’s insistence on moving forward.
@@thebigenchilada678 "Johnny Silverhand was a singer". Oh boy. Johnny Silverhand enlisted in the corporate army at a young age, fought in the corporate wars where he lost his arm and got the silver cybernetic arm, then quit the military and began his singing career while also engaging in anti-corporate terr... can't use that word on youtube... let's say, a lil bit of aggressive protesting with lots of casualities. In any case, he was good enough of a battler to completely annihiliate Arasaka special forces in any shootout with them and lost only to Smasher. Whatever experience he got from wars and anti-corporation aggressive protesting, it bled over to V who was also simultaneously fighting every day.
We still have to remember that v is still Cannon the strongest person to ever exist in night City. Look at how chromed-out he was without being turned into a cyber psycho
He took what he saw as the best parts of this and that. He doesn't like to over rely on any one component. He gave David shit for relying on the cyberskeleton.
@@Bowiiihowdybut also praised him for being able to even handle that much, i imagine the jump from regular chrome and the one bit of military tech to a whole artillery rig with experimental tech is like jumping from snorting smarties to snorting cocaine, eating shrooms, popping acid and shooting up heroine all at once.
I mean, the reason we kill him in the game is just that because of the chip, V can fight off cyberpsychosis and use more mods than even Smasher can use.
Well, admittedly the reason V can hold so many microwaves at once is the fact that the Relic is literally ripping their brain apart and stitching it back together piece by piece, so any other implants seem like cherries on a cake of shit
Adam: from the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the certainty and strength of the blessed Machine. V: allow me to pass through for a moment
Imagine what would happen if Smasher ever decided to interact with "the other side" of the Blackwall. An Adam Smasher with haunted cyberware/weaponry would be the closest thing to an honest-to-God _demon_ roaming the Earth you could find in the setting.
@deznutes6689 2.0 is the update. Phantom liberty is the dlc. From whati know the update has overall done well to rebalance the game. I still fucking hate how they changed Mr. Hands' VA tho 😡😡
Note how they say he is the strongest "fully converted" cyborg. That is because Morgan Blackhand is still out there. And that's what keeps Adam up at night.
Smasher is the kinda guy to run an AMD Processor with an Intel cooler and an NVIDIA graphics card. Then cover that up in an Apple casing that has Windows as it's operating system.
"Low key breaking the continuity of his character." Smashers underwhelming boss battle showing is poor for gameplay reasons. Not for lore ones. Beating him is A-OK for the setting. I hate it how people are more than happy to say "oh its Night City/Cyberpunk - bad ends are to be expected" but disregard it for someone like Smasher. Smasher isnt exempt either. Getting bodied by V is a perfect ending for an overrated, past-it former Legend like Smasher. It just needs to be reworked so its more impressive. Like "not getting decimated in 20 seconds by a vibrator" impressive.
Oohhhh I like your perspective. I guess it’s just not consistent with his character or it’s underwhelming. To me if he was fighting maybe a whole squad of Vs then it would make sense. Someone who can wreck legend after legend then gets potatoed by a new comer like V doesn’t fit the lore for me
@@Controversially_Nerdyy the end of the game, the list of cyberware V can install and use easily rivals Smasher’s loadout. The boss fight was terribly designed, but if we’re talking continuity- I don’t get why people think V being an absolute beast is so far-fetched. And if being borg’d out the ass isn’t convincing enough, netrunner V can abuse the poor guy from across the room with one quick hack. Edit: Just realized I read over the “for me” part. Ignore my rant- opinions aren’t illegal 😭
@@Controversially_NerdyI mean V is worse than a cyberpunk god, they've potentially completed every single gig in the city from all fixers, has every single implant available, they're a multimillionaire, has the highest possible street rep, some of the most dangerous equipment and gear that exists, has two minds in one body, has custom equipment they crafted and is the next thing to being fully cyber. V has gotten through the Blackwall and comeback, has killed countless gangmembers from every single gang in Night City, tamgled with multiple rogue AIs (and evem befriended some of them), has gone on multiple cyberpsycho rampages mowing down countless MaxTac victims like they were ants, they've survived a bullet to the brain, kidnapped Arasakas, and assaulted every major corportations and led a one man assault against the entire Arasaka HQ and killed pretty much person inside...why wouldn't V be able to take on Adam Smasher? V isn't a god, they're a godkilling nightmare - and Night City will probably be forever grateful that they only have 6 months to live. The Adam Smasher boss was still too easy though even if you speedrun the game and don't equip any cyberware - but that's not a lore problem, lore accurate V is scary, it's just not a very difficult game. Hopefully one day they'll give us a much scarier version of the boss fight at least on very hard mode, just so we can have a bit more of a challenge.
@@pnobodi5341I mean, all the shit V is installing is still just over the counter stuff, even if it’s the best stuff you can get over the counter. the range and amount of implants and cyberware he can get is also pretty limited relative to full cyborgification and everything else that’s out there in the lore. Smasher on the other hand is the pinnacle of engineering and bleeding edge technology. He’s a legendarily gifted killer with the better part of a century of experience, stuffed to the gills with the most expensive, experimental shit arisaka can make or get their hands on, customized specifically for his use, and no expense has been spared in making him the most efficient weapon in existence
@@daltongarrett3393 If you mean "over the counter" literally, then yeah, but if you're saying that to point out V's cyberware as run of the mill, I disagree. NC is pretty much a city-sized black market, and V states at least twice that even Kabuki has the best stuff around. I don't think it's crazy to say that NC ripperdocs are capable of providing corporate-grade cyberware, or something rivaling it. Does it make sense? idk, but evidently it worked because we spend the game spanking everybody. Not worrying about cyberpsychosis because of an extra psyche is also a plus. Again, V is a beast
When you see him in the game at first, he looks like an elite heavy soldier. When you see him at the end of the game and in the animation he is literally a technological demon.
He definately has. He apparently has different bodies for different tasks anyways, he is THE most important Arasaka soldier, he knows about the tech and how it works (implied in Edgerunners) and most important: he is the Fan favourite antagonist and no Developer or Businessman would let him die after just one Game... same as Arkham Joker.
Honestly people forget smasher went through shit and even gets fried a bit by an AI that attacks arasaka if i remember correct before fighting V… sooo could be why he is weaker.
@@araibgohar112 yeah always wondered if that is what took the brunt of the damage before the fight with V, would make sense if his sandi got fried before you even reach him or something.
Anyone else think his less busy flashback design looked cooler like his arms especially looked better and mor powerful than the more hard metal and skeletal looking ones he has in the present at least to me
I like to think V being home of Johnny’s relic basically puts a supercomputer in his brain. Only way to explain his innate ability to hack even the toughest ICE with little difficulty dude litterally hacked that Bartmoss drive that almost killed the dude in Afterlife before you even really get a chance to level up netrunning
Smasher's strength isn't just his chrome, but also his experience. Dude's like, what, 100+ years old at this point? And he spent most of that time in combat. Just look at his reaction to seeing David in that mech-thing. David probably thought "oh, powerful chrome," but Smasher immediately saw it's flaw: It's too heavy and reliant on anti-grav to even stand up. Which is funny considering 'Saka made it FOR him, lol. It's like getting a new tool and just going "bro, this shit sucks!" Also, I doubt Smasher is dead. Dude has backups of backups of his brain, and dozens of bodies, including an Elvis one for "special" occasions.
I wish they would rework the Adam Smasher fight in the game. Have him get more difficult as he takes damage (rather than easier), or even regen health. Get rid of backup soldiers because theyre just distractions, save the carpet bombs for mid/late stage, and let him use the Sandy to dodge some of your attacks
I literally Chris Rocked this dude's ass. I feel like there shouldve been more of him chasing us or something similar at the start of the game so we get a little insight of how strong he is and how strong V becomes throughout the game.
Ah yeah the dragoon, that checks out. Fun fact about the Dragoon, the humanity loss from the full conversation is so bad that soldiers in it are in robot mode 90% of the time since it leaves them riddles with cyberpsycosis
Crazy how when you think about it, edgerunners wasn't a tale about a tragic end to a cast of great characters, but literally just a lore explanation on why Adam Smasher has the sandevistan
smasher is a lot like frank horrigan in that the only reason you beat them is because youre the main character in a video game
And I killed him with a talking pistol 😂
Lmaoooo winner for the day. You are pinned
Still can’t believe I gave it up to regi
Dum dum bee dum dum
Hated that fucker firin off randomly, i couldnt sneak up on her
I can't hardly use skippy he sucks and ik its because I turned it on puppy loving mode but doesn't it switch modes permanently after a certain amount of kills
Adam smasher is the kind of man to walk into a drug store, listen to the details, and be like “Eh, fuck it, I’ll take ‘em all”
I mean he literally fucked his boss’s daughter so…..
😊l
Statistically through sheer odds and biological anomaly you’ll get something that REALLY works for someone somehow which is as goofy as it is scary
He was quite literally “built different”
Cringe mate
I'ma be honest I don't think he's dead, I mean he's dead but I think Arasoka made an engram of him to use when they wanted
Engram seems very possible. If not arasaka, at least he'd have a copy of himself stashed away somewhere
@@Controversially_Nerdy and you know he would be into it because he was always in love with being more machine then human something him and Morgan blackhand had in common
@HojiDaSquirrel STOP feeding my addition hahaha. Jk jk. It does work well given he is machine obsessed. If anything this would be the ultimate machine vs flesh move, as you pointed out. You are pinned. And most likely a future short will come out of this 🙃😇
@@Controversially_Nerdy Let's gooooooo I'm always happy to help my knowledge of games and story here's another free one, in the Original books and bored games Jonny Silverhand was designed after David Bowie and when 2077 was being made they wanted him to play Jonny in game before his unfortunate death, there was talk however of wanting to use early AI to put him in the role
@HojiDaSquirrel 🥲 tragic choom. On one hand I could see the negative backlash. But it would have been very cyberpunk 😞. Still smart choice by cdpr.
Another short topic thooo, preeem!
David:You have a Sandevistan?!
Smasher:A rudimentary implant.
Does he really say that in the anime? I'm on the last episode... I hope he says that in the anime... That's such a badass line. Utter badass. Unless you made that up just now, then you're the utter badass.
HA! I took so long typing that message, whilst watching Edgerunner, that he literally just said the line. JUST NOW! It was 100% as epic as I expected. I wish that Smasher was as big of a badass in the game, as he was in the show. Give the shiiiii-ns!!!some challenge and badassery. Yep. Smasher's shins are tooo easy. He absolutely, unequivocally, beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt... Skipped leg day. I'm talkin' like more than once or twice too... Fat guy with some skinnyyyy shins. Fat guy with some skinnyyyy shins! Ahhh... Yeah. I need some sleep. Bad. Asf.
@@derekspringer6448 Honestly I wish I could take credit but I’m not as cold as smasher, because not only did he literally and figuratively destroy David with that line alone. He destroyed everything that made David “special” or feel special in anyway. David built himself up and around his Sandi entirely, but Smasher? He already had how many cybernetics at the point he got his Sandi and was pretty much “yes this will be exceptional tool to my arsenal.” So from Smashers pov I can completely understand how much of a joke that really is, this boy who built himself around his Sandi and thought he was special. But that is no diss on David in anyway shape or form even Smasher said he had fun and choom lasted a decent amount of time against him all things considered, and became that nightcity legend…
@@derekspringer6448have u played since update 2.1? they gave him self ice, ground and pound, a laser, and a sandevistan that I thought made his fight harder
@@thatoneguy0364Didnt make fight any harder tho. In sandi mode he is just Spazzing around getting stuck in pillars.
Bro the part when Lucy tries to hack Adam and he just straight up just denies her
He grabs the firewall from the air and it was the funniest shit I've seen
@@HolyFlippinSmokesman i remember processing ehat i just saw way too late
@@HolyFlippinSmokesLucy's hack turned into a pickle, funniest shit I've ever seen
Dude smiled and said "you fucking wish"
Bro was the only character that buy antivirus premium
Instead of thinking Smasher is weak in game, imagine that V is just built different
She technically is, literaly
I’m pretty sure canonically v is like the strongest person ever in any part of cyberpunk
@@connor1672 i beat smasher with no implants and a basic ass shotgun though
@@Emiruuuand so did morgan Blackhand as an almost human. It was never about the gear, but rather skill
leave it cyberpunk fanboys to always come up with scenarios to excuse poor game design
Smasher is strong but the creator of the CP universe basically said v is goated. Being able to have silverhand and himself combined.
He cdpr made him say it. Jkjkkk yeah V is the goat. The true legend of NC, I’m just being an old fart heheheh
Dont abbreviate cyberpunk 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@caingamin2Oh shit 😂😂😂
@@caingamin2 CP 2077😂😂
@@djstef4549 you’re all deffo on a watchlist now🤣😭😭
If you wanna realize how op V is remember that David had to start popping psychoactive meds with just the sandevastan and started to snap with a few more basic mods while V can get the same sandy and enough chrome to make a maelstromer blush and still not need any meds with or without the relic
Yeah, put in enough time before the heist and you can pretty much fully mod yourself before ever getting the biochip.
V's just different.
If it weren't for the biochip's nanites or whatever quite literally rewriting V's brain, I doubt V would've even had a problem with it. Straight up born to chrome and kick ass.
@@Alyrael I still prefer him to be stronger then random psycho, around year ago there was even a video comparing Adam to them, and he sucked hard.
It's called plot armor, mate.@@Alyrael
David was also a 17 year old kid lmao
@@Alyrael. It’s not the chrome that makes you go over the edge, it’s the loss of ones own humanity via disenfranchisement, it’s a mental health issue, not a chrome issue.
I punched him to death. Gorilla Arms are OP!
Dope dp and yeah he’s a bit soft in the game. Gorilla arms are op though!!!
It got to the point I wasn’t even using guns anymore 😂
Adam was the fucking meat
Dude same
Those gorilla arms got me through the beat on the brat quests. Love that shit.
Imagine the carnage if this beast went cyberpsycho
Jesus, everyone would be dead
It has been stated by the creator of CP2077’s ‘verse that Adam is a High-Functioning Cyber-Psycho, and is able to function normally because he was already in the same mental state before getting chromed
technically he already is. He is a full psycho who gets off on killing people. He was a psycho before he went full borg. Cant go cyberpsycho if he is already a psycho.
He has always been a cyberpsycho, the thing is, cyberpsychosis is strongly implied to not be real, just a catch all term for abnormal or unwanted behaviour.
Not all cyberpsychos go on a knife rampage inside a mall.
His profile in the database says that his humanity was already questionable before his conversion. I like to think that most of us are taught to believe that all people have some good in them somewhere, but in truth, there are those rare accidents of nature or breeding in which some people really are just born broken. Smasher was born without humanity, and tried to fill that void with machinery, but he just became an addict whose life revolves around the next upgrade.
There's another similarity between Smasher and Bartmoss other than hybrid gear. They're both "not right in the head". Both of them are, quite honestly, psychos. Smasher may murder people for fun, but Rache doesn't have that much more regard for most other humans beyond a few friends like Spider Murphy. The biggest difference is Rache is fixated on hating corps and other authorities beyond everything else, which directs him in a direction which usually aligns with the PCs who get fucked over by corps and therefore he's one of the "good guys". Smasher just enjoys killing people, full stop, and working for Arasaka gives him what he wants.
Dammmnnn why you gotta involve my favourite character! But yeah when you put it that way, they are pretty similar 😭😭😭. Rache really could care less about other gonks, man is hell bent on just exposing corpos.
@@lexbrightraven8049Pretty sure it's weaponized autism, not empathy
@@NerthosAwwww yheaaaa, autism representation in Cyberpunk😎.
Well...he was in love with spider Murphy. He even made a little prank sexualized avatar thingy of her for the net to mess with her after he was gone, because deep down he was attracted to her. He admitted it in the end if memory serves..once it was too late for him.
He had good reasons to hate most people, honestly thats probably why I like him... I know how he felt. He was screwed over pretty bad and honestly most people just suck. Smasher was just psychotic, enjoyed murder and actively sought out jobs he could have collateral damage on.
well yeah they're cyber psychos
Hope in the big update with phantom liberty they make his fight more challenging or atleast climactic
It would be fun if it was more challenging. On that same note I’d like Adam to be more consistent :)
They should make it so he adapted during it like if ur using a sandy he'll use his to keep up ( like in edge runners ) or if you dont have anything he'll just activate his berserker and if you try to hack him well just do what they did when lucy tried to hack him, he needs phases were he gets more aggressive and thats it
@@julious129I don't think he should be impossible to hack, as that would punish people for going with hacking builds, but he should definitely be nearly impossible
@ratmessiah7223 very true I guess when u have someone that strong you gotta nerf him to an extent I just think he's way to ez
they're already making very hard difficulty harder. On top of that, besides like a whole rework on the fight he's still gonna die relatively easily.
The new 2.0 fight is a lot better. He takes more than like 2 minutes to kill and the fight has multiple phases. Much more in line with how a hyper-enhanced psychopath superhuman should be.
Good news, 2.1 is rebalancing him again to make him even more powerful, truly what he was originally described as, including his sandevistan.
I’ve seen 2.1 makes fights even crazier, including Adam Smashers. Now he’s actually lore accurate
@@RealWorldReviewman if he was lore accurate there would be no boss fight
still fucked him up in like 3 mins
@@levicarpenter5509he would be dark souls boss.
Thanks for explaining this. I hate how people are confused how the mech was for him but never installed it and ends up destroying it. Time of development it may have been his strongest state, but by the time it was manufactured and "feild tested"... Smasher definitely had the custom dragoon suit set up with the sandy by then which he prolly perfered more then relying on "anti-grav" tech
I think it helps to not think of Smasher as weak in the game, but rather V as more powerful than Smasher in the game.
See I can’t see V being that strong ahhaha. Smasher is the end game character. Not even Blackhand bested him. So by admitting V is more powerful I’d also have to admit V is the most powerful in the entire lore. I just can’t admit that 😤
@@Controversially_Nerdybut he is
@hehenerd don't need you to admit it when it's quite literally Canon 💀
And the word of Canon is more credible than a YT short.
@@Controversially_NerdyQuestion if they make Smasher as strong as he is in the source material and V still beats him will you accept that V is the strongest in the universe
Its not that smasher is particularly good, just everyone else is an idiot.
Blackhand the legendary solo weapon of choice was a rifle with less power than ar-15.
A single shot of .50bmg ETE AP or 20mm autocannon(which us army had manportable in 2020 and wasnt even considered heaviest weaponry for power armor) would kill smasher but people fighting him decide to use low caliber pistols and rifles.
That also canonically applies to V, from weapons used in game only the single sniper rifle and the turret MG should actually be able to damage a full borg.
you have to understand that V is quite literally also a legend in NC, and one of the strongest at that.
Bet you Smaaher changed suits when fighting V. He probably saw V (anyone else with V) as nothing but roaches that he doesn't need one of his stronger suits.
That was my head canon playing as well. His fight was just too easy by the time you get to him regardless of the difficulty.
@@pest1l3nce for there needs to be some kind of mod to make him the beast we see in the anime
Welp Adam's mistake then :3
At the same time i believe V is canon to be a ridiculously strong person (cyborg) too. That is also canon. Either way i can just as easily see adam coming back, since we know engrams are a thing and that they can bring back versions of people
@@luclin92I doubt Arasaka would just let their number one, attack dog, just die. He’d most likely has lots of engrams, maybe even being updated with his current memories. Like, imagine killing Adam Smasher, then a few days later, he just blows a hole in your wall and starts beating you up, for killing him
In the original Tabletop RPG game he was in, the Player Handbook basically described him as "the unbeatable boss that scares the sh** out of you and puts into perspective how weak you actually are in the lore." Even at the highest levels in-game, he is gonna be the boogyman that makes max level players scared to go to sleep at night.
The idea is that all of his stats are maxed out and his skills/cybernetics are SUPERHUMAN and completely unattainable by any Player Character no matter what they try. His list of cybernetics is high end and EXTREMELY long, choom.
Reading each one stat and cybernetic individually puts into perspective how terrifying he is in lore. They practically describe him as a MYTH because nobody survives an encounter with him.
You cannot hack him, you cannot hit him, you can only run and hope his maxed out weapon skills don't get you. And you sure as s**t aren't gonna dissuade him from sending you straight to Jesus. He is unironically, seriously a psychopath in lore and owns it like nobody else ever will
His list of cybernetics alone is TERRIFYING because it's basically a novel length description of all of the highest end cybernetics in universe wrapped together into a machine of brutality and unrivaled animosity.
To sum up the words of the PHB into a short phrase: "RUN. Do not attempt to fight Smasher. F***ing RUN." Unlike other legends of Night City, who frequently fall short of the legends, ADAM SMASHER DOES NOT. He is EXACTLY what is described in the urban legends of Night City.
In a single sentence: Adam Smasher is to the OG lore and expanded universe what V is to 2077.
I still believe that Bartmoss was the most powerful character in the Cyberpunk lore, but I love the concept of Smasher being how he was intented to be: A f*cking OP villain and immune to "plot armor" characters.
Woah. I never noticed where his pieces came from. Adam is essentially using his brain as a CPU to his chrome platform. Ya boy has a love for that Samson model.
he probobly grew up with the model and didn't trust anything else; even the dragoon headpiece.
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28but he does have several bodies he uses (including a Gemini body that looks like a buff, blonde Elvis Presley)
Adam's didn't realize that he got UNO REVERSE. Because the moment he realize at the end. V is actually the final boss and not him.
You can no longer bully Adam post patch 2.1, you'll need to be tactical now
nah I still beat his ass with Skippy
fucked him up in like 3 mins
Smasher is not a potato - V is just that much of a badass.
Anyone else see Vin Diesel in his more human looking one.
LMAOOO pinned
@@Controversially_Nerdy Well... That's a first, glad I got a laugh. Thank you, I'm honored.
Tom Hardy
The reason why V curbstomps Smasher with such ease is because V themself is inhumanely good. For the past several days V has been merging with Johnny Silverhand, gaining experience at an accelerated rate, growing exponentially. And with nothing left to lose, they have also been pumping in new cybernetics as if there's no tomorrow... since there likely isn't. By the time Smasher and V clashed, V has become an army of one, much like Smasher.
The reason why V curb stomps Smasher because of poor gameplay design.
And Johnny Silverhand was a singer, he was never known for fighting, the entire memory sequence in Arasaka tower is either a ridiculous retcon or a lie fabricated by Johnny, Morgan Backhand did that to Smasher not johnny, who’s a serial narcissist and over-inflator.
Hell the whole “johnny silverhand sends his regards.” Line that your V can say to smasher is met with “are you fuckin joking?” As if to imply that Johnny was an ant beneath his boot that Smasher only vaguely remembers, backed up further by Johnny’s insistence on moving forward.
@@thebigenchilada678 "Johnny Silverhand was a singer". Oh boy.
Johnny Silverhand enlisted in the corporate army at a young age, fought in the corporate wars where he lost his arm and got the silver cybernetic arm, then quit the military and began his singing career while also engaging in anti-corporate terr... can't use that word on youtube... let's say, a lil bit of aggressive protesting with lots of casualities.
In any case, he was good enough of a battler to completely annihiliate Arasaka special forces in any shootout with them and lost only to Smasher.
Whatever experience he got from wars and anti-corporation aggressive protesting, it bled over to V who was also simultaneously fighting every day.
@@Laerei there were plenty of vets of the corporate wars, Johnny as far as I remember wasn’t all that special.
@@Laereistill cool that both of them in the same body share resistance to cyberpsychosis shii need all dat chrome 😂
@@thebigenchilada678it's not really poor game design more like v spent the while game leveling up and getting op so it makes sense
It doesnt break continuity. V is just a fucking beast. Like Morgan Blackhand, and Smasher himself.
Adam: Every step I take costs $4k of technology...
Me, a butcher: Cleaver go CHOP!
Thankfully they’ve made smasher a lot harder now.
We still have to remember that v is still Cannon the strongest person to ever exist in night City. Look at how chromed-out he was without being turned into a cyber psycho
So he's a walking hodge podge
Exactly
He took what he saw as the best parts of this and that. He doesn't like to over rely on any one component. He gave David shit for relying on the cyberskeleton.
@@Bowiiihowdybut also praised him for being able to even handle that much, i imagine the jump from regular chrome and the one bit of military tech to a whole artillery rig with experimental tech is like jumping from snorting smarties to snorting cocaine, eating shrooms, popping acid and shooting up heroine all at once.
@@username172 its not experimental, in 2077 its said hes using a dragoon with custom face mask, this was considered in mass production back in 2023.
@@davoodoo8042the cyber skeleton was the experimental tech. Not smashers suit.
I mean, the reason we kill him in the game is just that because of the chip, V can fight off cyberpsychosis and use more mods than even Smasher can use.
Well, admittedly the reason V can hold so many microwaves at once is the fact that the Relic is literally ripping their brain apart and stitching it back together piece by piece, so any other implants seem like cherries on a cake of shit
Yeah… except you can kill him with no implants at all and a dildo
@@thedumgum9253 Basically.
V running around with Denny's bat and Skippy: Ok, and?
Adam: from the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the certainty and strength of the blessed Machine.
V: allow me to pass through for a moment
"Even in death, I serve Arasaka."
I think his ease of defeat is a testament to V's strength
1 line word that i like from Adam..
" INTERESTING 🔥🔥🔥 😂😂😂 "
Imagine what would happen if Smasher ever decided to interact with "the other side" of the Blackwall. An Adam Smasher with haunted cyberware/weaponry would be the closest thing to an honest-to-God _demon_ roaming the Earth you could find in the setting.
Phantom liberty got me thinking they’ll change the smasher fight to be actually scary for once
Except it's a dlc, not an update
@@yasininn76it is quite literally being advertised as a dlc/update
@deznutes6689 2.0 is the update. Phantom liberty is the dlc. From whati know the update has overall done well to rebalance the game.
I still fucking hate how they changed Mr. Hands' VA tho 😡😡
they didnt i just mopped him
Today on “How tf aren’t you a cyberpsycho?!” With special guest “SHIT! ITS ADAM SMASHER!!!”
Smasher has always been a damn menace in Night City.
Note how they say he is the strongest "fully converted" cyborg. That is because Morgan Blackhand is still out there. And that's what keeps Adam up at night.
Smasher is the kinda guy to run an AMD Processor with an Intel cooler and an NVIDIA graphics card.
Then cover that up in an Apple casing that has Windows as it's operating system.
And it would run at 200% clock with no problems
Nah, he’d be tri booting MacOS, Linux, and Windows. When someone like Lucy tries to hack him he just flashes the VM they got into and tracks their ip.
Intel cooler? Are you kidding? It's a Noctua for sure.
V bodying smasher doesn’t break the continuity of his character. He was strong, but he met someone who was stronger and had nothing to lose
Adam Smasher at 2076: Destroyer of Worlds
Mr. Fuckable Meat at 2077: dies to a fucking pistol
Mr Fuckable Meat is crazy
Reinforced ankles and Monoblade works wonder for not getting hit 😂
"Low key breaking the continuity of his character."
Smashers underwhelming boss battle showing is poor for gameplay reasons. Not for lore ones. Beating him is A-OK for the setting.
I hate it how people are more than happy to say "oh its Night City/Cyberpunk - bad ends are to be expected" but disregard it for someone like Smasher.
Smasher isnt exempt either. Getting bodied by V is a perfect ending for an overrated, past-it former Legend like Smasher. It just needs to be reworked so its more impressive. Like "not getting decimated in 20 seconds by a vibrator" impressive.
Oohhhh I like your perspective. I guess it’s just not consistent with his character or it’s underwhelming. To me if he was fighting maybe a whole squad of Vs then it would make sense. Someone who can wreck legend after legend then gets potatoed by a new comer like V doesn’t fit the lore for me
And that's why V is so strong because they're a slapped together God damn hot mess.
My man Smasher really out here kitbashing
Adam is leaking VRAM in his metal pants as V walks in room while DOOM music starts blasting
Yet I ended him with Sir John Phalistaff🤣🤣
Disrespected! 😂
Same here bro
A man of culture
We can potato him because we mix different components just like him, but we're a step ahead in that we've already "fought" him.
V’s just a fucking goat, the mech boss battle in Phantom Liberty proves it especially when he fell through like 7-10 stories of concrete floor
No, it doesn't break continuity, it's just that V is that girl.
That’s breaking continuity for me ahhaha. Like Spider-Man beating Thor? Like cool you have powers but you’re not a God
@@Controversially_Nerdyy the end of the game, the list of cyberware V can install and use easily rivals Smasher’s loadout. The boss fight was terribly designed, but if we’re talking continuity- I don’t get why people think V being an absolute beast is so far-fetched. And if being borg’d out the ass isn’t convincing enough, netrunner V can abuse the poor guy from across the room with one quick hack.
Edit: Just realized I read over the “for me” part. Ignore my rant- opinions aren’t illegal 😭
@@Controversially_NerdyI mean V is worse than a cyberpunk god, they've potentially completed every single gig in the city from all fixers, has every single implant available, they're a multimillionaire, has the highest possible street rep, some of the most dangerous equipment and gear that exists, has two minds in one body, has custom equipment they crafted and is the next thing to being fully cyber. V has gotten through the Blackwall and comeback, has killed countless gangmembers from every single gang in Night City, tamgled with multiple rogue AIs (and evem befriended some of them), has gone on multiple cyberpsycho rampages mowing down countless MaxTac victims like they were ants, they've survived a bullet to the brain, kidnapped Arasakas, and assaulted every major corportations and led a one man assault against the entire Arasaka HQ and killed pretty much person inside...why wouldn't V be able to take on Adam Smasher? V isn't a god, they're a godkilling nightmare - and Night City will probably be forever grateful that they only have 6 months to live.
The Adam Smasher boss was still too easy though even if you speedrun the game and don't equip any cyberware - but that's not a lore problem, lore accurate V is scary, it's just not a very difficult game. Hopefully one day they'll give us a much scarier version of the boss fight at least on very hard mode, just so we can have a bit more of a challenge.
@@pnobodi5341I mean, all the shit V is installing is still just over the counter stuff, even if it’s the best stuff you can get over the counter. the range and amount of implants and cyberware he can get is also pretty limited relative to full cyborgification and everything else that’s out there in the lore. Smasher on the other hand is the pinnacle of engineering and bleeding edge technology. He’s a legendarily gifted killer with the better part of a century of experience, stuffed to the gills with the most expensive, experimental shit arisaka can make or get their hands on, customized specifically for his use, and no expense has been spared in making him the most efficient weapon in existence
@@daltongarrett3393 If you mean "over the counter" literally, then yeah, but if you're saying that to point out V's cyberware as run of the mill, I disagree. NC is pretty much a city-sized black market, and V states at least twice that even Kabuki has the best stuff around. I don't think it's crazy to say that NC ripperdocs are capable of providing corporate-grade cyberware, or something rivaling it. Does it make sense? idk, but evidently it worked because we spend the game spanking everybody. Not worrying about cyberpsychosis because of an extra psyche is also a plus. Again, V is a beast
It doesn't break his character continuity, it strengthens V's character continuity.
Using 50/50's cupid makes me feel like you're trying to get to know the smasher portion specifically
When you see him in the game at first, he looks like an elite heavy soldier. When you see him at the end of the game and in the animation he is literally a technological demon.
Yet he couldn’t handle a few shots from a berserk buffed GUTS.
Hehehehehehe he got what was coming
What if, adam smasher had "soulkiller" to respawn
Wouldn’t be surprised. It would also be an easy way for him to come back in the sequel
He definately has. He apparently has different bodies for different tasks anyways, he is THE most important Arasaka soldier, he knows about the tech and how it works (implied in Edgerunners) and most important: he is the Fan favourite antagonist and no Developer or Businessman would let him die after just one Game... same as Arkham Joker.
"I don't like how this feels" welcome to armored core, everyone is the bad guy, unless they're dead, they were probably the good guy
I fell in love with Cupid! 😂
I think the boss fight could've been done better. Maybe a mech battle like in Edge Runners but....2077 had....other problems to focus on.
I mean literally just adding the Sandevistan dodge and dash animations other enemies already have would make his fight 10x times harder
Oda is a decent boss fight and 20 times harder and he is basically just a random bodyguard.
With the rebalance with phantom liberty do you think he'll actually be challenging
Yeah I think so. Especially with the cyberware risk/reward system. I mean at least I hope you’d have to be more tactical
@hehenerd same im just getting excited, and i just hope they do it all well
Yeah i think so
Nothing compares to his smashing when he's got the Blonde Elvis suit on...
Nice background song to talk about Adam Smasher 😂 love it.
Honestly people forget smasher went through shit and even gets fried a bit by an AI that attacks arasaka if i remember correct before fighting V… sooo could be why he is weaker.
he didn't even use his sandevistan
@@araibgohar112 yeah always wondered if that is what took the brunt of the damage before the fight with V, would make sense if his sandi got fried before you even reach him or something.
@@rpgshadowmorn2683 probably just made him weaker for the game to give the player a fighting chance
My head canon is that Smasher either uses the 1.4 second build of the QainT mk. 4 or uses an upgraded version of Apogee that has no cooldown
You have the spirit of Neo on your side. Adam never stood a chance to begin with.
We need to see the Dai Oni. The most powerful full body conversion ever made.
hopefully phantom liberty changes some base game stuff and makes smasher less pitiful, he's the only reason i even watched edgerunners lol
Yeah he was sad in the game and fearsome in the anime lol. I wish they fix him up too tbh
Anyone else think his less busy flashback design looked cooler like his arms especially looked better and mor powerful than the more hard metal and skeletal looking ones he has in the present at least to me
Adam being a multimixed class in a universe where mixed classes are op.
I wish we saw Adam smasher doing something besides just standing there menacingly.
Glad they made him slightly harder to kill in the recent update.
cool to see a reference to Neuromancer in a Cyberpunk 2077 video. many concepts were taken from the book, including the name Night City.
Neuromancer really set the tone
I want a prequel game with smasher I think it would be badass to see into his prior work before the events of 2077 and Edgerunners
He's actually a great challenge now since the 2.1 update
Dude is like 96% cybernetics. When you do the brain dance you can see that spec sheet on him
He's just a high functioning cyberpsycho
I watched my friend fight adam yeaterday and dude, after that update he is a MENACE. Hes fast as FUCK and he doesnt give you even one second of chill
I like to think V being home of Johnny’s relic basically puts a supercomputer in his brain. Only way to explain his innate ability to hack even the toughest ICE with little difficulty dude litterally hacked that Bartmoss drive that almost killed the dude in Afterlife before you even really get a chance to level up netrunning
Smasher's strength isn't just his chrome, but also his experience. Dude's like, what, 100+ years old at this point? And he spent most of that time in combat. Just look at his reaction to seeing David in that mech-thing. David probably thought "oh, powerful chrome," but Smasher immediately saw it's flaw: It's too heavy and reliant on anti-grav to even stand up. Which is funny considering 'Saka made it FOR him, lol. It's like getting a new tool and just going "bro, this shit sucks!"
Also, I doubt Smasher is dead. Dude has backups of backups of his brain, and dozens of bodies, including an Elvis one for "special" occasions.
I wish they would rework the Adam Smasher fight in the game. Have him get more difficult as he takes damage (rather than easier), or even regen health. Get rid of backup soldiers because theyre just distractions, save the carpet bombs for mid/late stage, and let him use the Sandy to dodge some of your attacks
After 2.1 hes worthy of a boss fight. He feels like Adam smasher
Really? Used blackwall hack on him and he easily fell down. - V, the God of Blackwall
Smasher still an absolute unit in my book
My friends told me that smasher would be the hardest boss i would fight but i didn't even come close to flatlineing when fighting him
Smashed is literally "Talk shit, get hit" type of guy
Adam Smasher backs every kickstarter he sees in the youtube preroll ads.
"Too scared to try"
The dragoon that causes cyberphycosis as soon as you put it on...
V is just that dude honestly
*Pulls out a lightsaber*
I literally Chris Rocked this dude's ass. I feel like there shouldve been more of him chasing us or something similar at the start of the game so we get a little insight of how strong he is and how strong V becomes throughout the game.
Well said. I struggled with this concept. But your comment helps me better understand what I was feeling about this fight ahhaha. Thanks :)
2.1 Smasher is chefs kiss best boss fight
It was at that moment David and the Edgerunners realised how far out of their depth they were
Ah yeah the dragoon, that checks out. Fun fact about the Dragoon, the humanity loss from the full conversation is so bad that soldiers in it are in robot mode 90% of the time since it leaves them riddles with cyberpsycosis
well, lore wise, V is just scary as hell
it doesn't break his continuity lmao, the creator is on the writing team
In his safe house he has another suit
Once I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted.
Idc i built myself a Katana build and destroyed him in 30 seconds. No chances given go that mf
Lmaoooo hahahah yeah yeah I know. In game smasher is doooodoo
Crazy how when you think about it, edgerunners wasn't a tale about a tragic end to a cast of great characters, but literally just a lore explanation on why Adam Smasher has the sandevistan
Thought it was Arasaka that "groomed" him. Didn't know that he chose himself.