@@malimal4972 men speak amongst themselves and most share this belief but anyone who opens their eyes can see that whenever a man voices his opinion they get shot down and canceled so choose to keep their opinions to themselves except for when they are in male-only spaces
I felt so bad when the man with the jean jacket said that he never felt loved by anyone he dated in his past. I really hope he finds someone who he feels loves him thoroughly. He seems like a great man 🙏🏽❤️
I dont feel bad for him , i feel bad for you ladies who dont have love in your soul heart and mind to give to a man or make him feel such .. I guarantee homeboys going to be married the next....
The brother with the jeans jacket is a stand up man. Erin was on point with some of her talking points. Women did feel stuck in those relationships, not all but some. Rico is right on somethings but he's still immature in many aspects
I think that we as a people need to sit down and speak on issues and concerns about things that can better us as a people. Rico in this instance was right on point in his discussion so is the other young man you’re a guest . it’s a really good episode. the title is incorrect it’s not bad women created a man shortage, it is the oppressor creating a man shortage
Whats funny about her example of going for an Indian man who likes her is that black women wouldn't date the black version of that Indian guy. She doesn't expect the Indian/White/Hispanic/Asian dude to have swag, that mouthpiece, an amazing D game, be 6ft+ but when dating black guys those are the only ones who are worth dealing with
I'm proud of how well these young men articulate their points without being women bashers. When a man is living in his purpose and stand on his core value he's a threat to some and admired by the rest.
Actually men could live in the house and still get government assistance. If I’m not mistaken it’s called. Section 3 but due to the lack of knowledge the people didn’t know because we don’t research laws.
Maybe you should look up the case King vs. Smith. A Black Woman went to the supreme court court to get the man out of the house rules thrown out . Plus why would you as a man allow yourself to get thrown out of a home and not fight back and do nothing?
The honest thing when it comes to men wanting to be married...I think there are plenty that wants to, willing to, and going to get married...The thing is those men aren't being checked for by women...many are looking for the bad boy, yet wants him to be respectful...It's the same for good women that are marriage material...most men aren't checking for those women...People overlook what they need versus what they want...
At 9 minutes this man said it’s easier to deal with several women than 1. That is so , so extra false! You either have to keep lying to all the women you talking to for quick pleasure or pay for quick pleasure from 304’s that don’t really care nothing about you but the money. Lastly to add. Who wants to live their whole life dealing and keeping up with several different personalities , that’s a headache waiting to happens and you will never be fulfilled in life doing that.
It's funny how dude said women are making more than men and she agreed. But then you'll hear about the pay gap, so which is it? Women can't be outearning men but simultaneously earning less because of the patriarchy. People will try to argue that either is true to fit their own narrative
Boys life skills: hunting and fishing, camping, lawn care, being mechanical, home maintenance, leadership, being tough when you get hurt, learning how men move and operate. (Survival) Coddling is about point of view. Girls might be in the kitchen, but would you want her outside mowing the yard?
The black bucks argument doesn't really hold much weight since black people after slavery and Jim crow were the most married demographic and as a result most of our kids were being born within the context of marriage. It wasn't until feminism ran rampant and women were incentivized to have kids out of wedlock did the rise of sleeping around with Pookie and Ray Ray become more acceptable
Sadly, the pookies n ray Ray's are barely 20% of Black men yet women with bad experiences with them paint Black men as a whole, even tho married the married or sexually inactive out number the Pookies and Futures.
Don't blame feminism. If a man was not a provider what use is he? If you own a home no one can through you out of it. Stop with the excuses! Just admit you don't like women.
Aaron is right. I have a twin brother in the same home and were raised differently. Only thing he had to do was take the trash out. Yes, we were both required to get good grades, but when i didnt, it was an issue. My brother was allowed to go to parties that I couldnt go to. We're from Detroit.
Same in my childhood, as a young girl I was responsible for most of the household needs and schoolwork, I had male family members older and younger that did not have the same level of responsibilities and were not put out at 18…in fact I don’t know any of these kids that are being forced out at 18 IDK why people think this is a “black” thing because I see plenty of 30 yr olds at home
You ladies fail to realize when a woman is down on her ass there is only one way out. And as parents we don’t want our daughters hitting that low. If a man fails their are millions of ways to stay afloat and grind his way out. Women wouldn’t be willing to do those same grueling jobs men take on. That’s where it stems from. Not because y’all get held to a higher standard just cause.
@@unreasonabledoubt165 I don’t see what you mean maybe you could explain further, men and women sell a**, drugs, t-shirts and whatever else. They both grind when things get difficult so why give more responsibilities to one and not the other. We all need to know how to survive and be independent
@@coreejacobs4780 if I may add, yes both genders can do both but each has advantages the other doesn’t. The girl can sell her ass and use her sexuality if she’s down bad and come up problem is girls try to keep doing it and stay high off of the lifestyle the money provides. The guy can use his muscles, logic and willingness to partake in danger to sell drugs when they down bad and come up, problem is they keep doing it and stay high on the lifestyle the money provides. That’s why girls who start selling drugs either off the rip have a weapon or only get plays cuz niggas tryna fuck them or finesse them, and why dudes who try to sell ass/dick or look sexy for opportunities aren’t as successful as girls, cuz nobody is looking for male sexuality like they are female sexuality Let’s talk
At about 9 minutes in they say Memaw was beaten by granpa and she could not get a charge card. Well both my grandmamas did not get beat and they went to the store using granddaddy's card. Both granddaddy's came home from work some days with an extra steak on the table waiting on them. I could not wait until I became that old man that got that extra steak on my plate. At 17 minutes in she makes a great point. Men need to be accountable, what ever your father did. You should be married and with your wife and child. At 52 minutes the answer is easy. The Black male is coddled and emasculated by these single mothers. He is raised to be a son-husband.
So literally right after she painted the grandma being oppressed and a victim she bragged about her grandma stabbing her grandpa can't make this shit up..RIP KEVIN SAMUELS
He was stabbed because my grandma was not going to let a man twice her size ever think he could touch her inappropriately. He learned his lesson and never tried her ever again. This came from her mouth to my ears as a lesson. Self defense is always an affirmative defense.
@@etcamp1913 I gotcha always two sides to every story though just like alotta of us grew up thinking pops just walked out on us but we were often times kept away from pops but never heard his side but u got it
This was a very good topic, I love the way the younger guy, has definitely work on himself personally and would make a great spouse, he is definitely mature and on point when it come to relationship keep educating us. Great show
She said grand mother's was trapped??? NOOOO! They were HAPPY and Focused on Filling their Homes With Love and Peace and Raising their Children. They understood the diff roles and Relished in them. That's the problem today is women PAINTING A FALSE NARRATIVE on the Women in the Past to Justify they're Actions today
That’s not necessarily true. Women did go through all kinds of abuse and stayed because they really didn’t have a choice. Therefore, when things changed as far as Women’s Rights to have their own bank accounts and so forth, older women groomed younger women to not tolerate the things they tolerated and endured from men. I’m a woman telling you what the truth is behind the things we were told. My marriage is somewhat traditional but I’m a Disabled Veteran. I don’t have to ask my husband for money. He pays all of the household bills. I stay at home. I save and invest. My husband is a Retired Disabled Veteran. He doesn’t have to but he works.
@@arleneaugustahair8393 my statement is more truer than yours because of personal testimonies from the women themselves. Many black families were VERY WELL OFF. This narrative that women like to create today about the past is totally founded mostly on lies. Thinking blacks were poor and run down. And older women didn't from women like they are today, Society did through tv, movies and music. Allot of older women are disgusted at the actions of younger women today
It really bothers me when women use that "color purple", "I'm trapped in this relationship" shit, men are scared to death to put their hands on women nowadays. Women gotta stop using examples from before they were even thought of to why they act the way they do in 2022
I’m giving personal experience. I, in fact, know women trapped in marriages. Only way out will be the demise of the spouse or themselves. If your experience, or the experiences of those around you, is different, feel free to say that.
@Erin Campbell And I know men trapped in verbally abusive relationships knowing if they even think of leaving then they are getting f'd by the matriarch family courts while their kid(s) will be weaponized against them & only listen to momma. The women only stay with her man if she's actually self aware enough that her husband is the only one willing to deal with her, else there's enough government support for women to ditch them.
@@mdotbeedot okay, that’s true. But what is your point? I’m referencing historical issues that have plagued women. Women are JUST NOW able to survive on their own without a man. So they don’t have to stay in those types of relationships. Let us not equate the two situations, bc they are neither equal nor similar. Remember, two things can be true simultaneously.
@Erin Campbell They're different in that things heavily favor women in family & divorce court, even if it's not the most ideal case for children. And while it's great for women to get out of abusive situations, that's NOT the majority of cases of women wrecking their homes as "inreconcilable differences" is damn near the most cited according to accounts of relationship counselors & divorce attorneys. Not even a majority of these matters is The Colored Purple yet the system treats every over like it is. So you're correct, the dynamic is not the same between the two.
The subject about black families where black mothers raise their daughters and love their sons, is such a relevant and powerful topic. Rico does not understand it (it wasn’t presented well). Also, he can’t get off of his childhood experience. Black mothers are loving their boys and raising their daughters, in his area too. They should seriously research the topic. Come back and have a show about it! I have 4 brothers and 3 sisters.
Im from Chicago...Guys aren't coddled. We just respect our mothers more which makes them tend to like us more. Girls wana argue with their mothers and be emotional and get their way. Guys are told things that causes us to be more logical than like women who be all in dreamland. Parents divide their attention by who needs it more. I got all A's so since it was expected that's what had to be maintained. With chores, both boy and girl washed dishes, clothes, cleaned the bathroom and the boys took the garbage out, cut the grass and extra manual labor.
This was one of the best panels. I agreed and disagreed with everyone on the panel at different times but most importantly when I didn't agree the way they expressed themselves I could at least see where they were coming from. Excellent work!
Damn Darrick that was deep u be speaking the whole damn truth. That was deep all I can say as long. As u know what U want what u need u got a whole. Lot. Of love in u may god bless ur heart u deserve better. But u know where u stand U keeping it a 💯
I’m not sure about other parents but I don’t play with any of my kids. All of my kids were in the kitchen with me. All of them took the trash out. All of them washed the dishes. All of them cleaned. All of them had to get good grades. They were in sports if they wanted to be in sports. They all had to learn how to drive. She’s right about Latino families. My brother was definitely coddled and didn’t have to do much of anything. I didn’t do that with my son. My brother almost burnt my aunts house down trying to cook. 😂😂😂 I wasn’t allowing anyone to try to burn my house down. As far as how much we make as women, it’s subjective. I made more than my ex-husband in the military because I got promoted before him. It seriously depends on the type of job you literally pick.
Rico did a great job explaining how many young black men in America grow up. Their are no father figures around so who do we have to look up to? Women have their mom, grandson aunts, brothers, uncles to rely on, but is black me get nothing.
Honestly in my opinion the only way to fix is is for black men, is for black men without kids or a stake in someone else’s kids need to go into black communities and provide opportunities and give time to these lost boys in our communities. Some women need to step aside and let men mentor their sons. So many choose rapping and drugs because that’s all they see. Poverty or riches isn’t what makes a good character it’s those with character holding those around them accountable. There aren’t enough good apples in the hood men or women. One job can change entire family’s life. The police do the worse jobs to contain or clip our bad apples, and as a result many of our people get cut I the process. Even though our society is very selfish. If we want a better black community black men with means can lead the way. Other communities don’t give us a chance and how can you blame them when we don’t give others that look like us chances.
Agreed. I think the solution is that fathers be fathers. Then we can ask the rest of the village. But let’s be clear that it starts with the presence and involvement of the father.
If that is true for the past and we see the effects it has had on generations it is time to adapt and help raise your children and others not continuously holding on to men not knowing how to be men because there were no fathers in the household
@@etcamp1913 the solution is for women to not sleep with men who have never showed any signs of being father material and who have no track record of being responsible. Dusty dudes wouldn't be able to knock women up if they didn't give them the time of day. There's a reason why other races aren't known for having out of wedlock kids in the same way as black people are
@@myafrosheen you’re right. She skeeted in herself. This may be the most illogical thing one can say in response to blk men leading the category in creating single parent homes. Don’t bother responding, bc it’s clear that we are not on the same page with respect to how the laws of cause and effect work. Good day.
She doesn't listen well. And it seems she isn't thinking outside of the box. That energy is more of a modern feminist movement type of energy. It would be very interesting to see what her husband is like.
There are more men willing to marry today than there are women who are willing to marry. We live in a time now in which marriage for many women is looked upon as a form of slavery. Because more women are making more money themselves, many women are seeing less of a need to marry. That aside, most of the men who want to marry today no longer meet the standards of most women, which is very often unrealistic. Most women dont meet the standards of most guys these days which is often unrealistic as well. And neither side is willing to meet in the middle on it. Women are like more guys need to make more money, but if it were that easy, being a high earning guy wouldn't be special, it wouldn't even be high earning anymore, it would be the new average, and would mean the inflation of the standards of living across the board, so the money wouldn't even matter. Men are wanting women to be stay at home moms and wives or have low body counts, neither of which is reasonable in this day and age. And there are far fewer naturally feminine women. They arent even giving men many options of women who are fit in this country, especially in the Black community. The question both sides need to answer is if they put those measurements aside, what is important in a partner/mate/significant other?
I agree it’s both the people poring into you and also your (from experience; personal and others) PERCEPTION that allows you to make a CHOICE!!! We ALL grow as Hundo said “ask me 5 years ago🤷🏿♀️… LIFE IS GRAND… we have options💜💜💜 #polylife #tribelife #naturallyroyalfamilyempirelc
Rico my brother hit it on sometime it's the people around you or sometimes people don't don't have any it's real out here specially in low income neighborhood we should speak on this cause it may be similar when we flip it what bout women does it goes both ways just a thought 💭
The female on the panel, because she's not a woman, is very unnecessary and and not needed for the show. She's terrible and was the reason I didn't wanna finish watching. I can relate to the guy saying he's never experienced true love in any of the relationships he's been in. I've experienced the same.
Is she for real??? How would a son and daughter be raised to the same standards??? They wont have the same responsibilities as adults. Unless you believe in going half on all bills??? I believe, as well as most women do too according to posts they make, men should be providers so the upbringing automatically differs 🤦🏽♂️
The whole women need love and men need respect thing is very problematic. Both genders need both. Why on earth would women not want respect? And men not want love? Women wanna feel respected to. You can't just put money on the table and be disrespectful and uncaring and think it's okay cuz you put money on the table. It's not.
Men always downplay the importance of household chores especially cooking. If a man can't cook that will change his health outcome his whole life (because he relies on fast food until he meets someone). Diabetes, high blood pressure, etc. And you think that's okay that a 25 year old man can't chop an onion? Girls learn this at 8 or 10 years old. This is basic hand eye coordination. I've dated men who couldn't be trusted with a knife at all because they might hurt themselves. That's sad that men can exist this way and think that's not a problem. Edit: many men can cook, I'm sure. This comment isn't about proving who can cook more. Women are expected to be the cooks in the household, period. Even if teens and young women don't know how to cook, once she's with someone she figures it out pretty quickly as it is the expectation. Moms are the ones cooking for their children, not dads. Maybe some good dads are, but moms do the majority of this labor. Its not easy, and its just as important as working out. Just dont downplay it, thats all.
1:49 Like he said, you cant answer a false statement especially when it pertains to the black community. There are about a half a million more married black men than black women, so there's PLENTY of black men who wanted to get married....its just not enough eligibile black women!
Why is she on this show? The show literally does not need someone that is just triggered by every statement a man makes; waiting to argue about some shit...
It's hard to find a man who most women are lusting over who knows that everyone wants him to be loyal. There are plenty of men who get minimal play who would love to be loyal but they're sitting in your friend zone
I respect Rico . A lot of men feel this way but are afraid of backlash to express their pov
how do you know ? lol
@@malimal4972 my man and I talk about topics like this ALL the time
@@vanessapean2566 you have to be more specific on what this meant tho
@@malimal4972 men speak amongst themselves and most share this belief but anyone who opens their eyes can see that whenever a man voices his opinion they get shot down and canceled so choose to keep their opinions to themselves except for when they are in male-only spaces
@@malimal4972 why don’t you just state what you dont agree with on Ricos points then since she’s wrong???
I felt so bad when the man with the jean jacket said that he never felt loved by anyone he dated in his past. I really hope he finds someone who he feels loves him thoroughly. He seems like a great man
🙏🏽❤️
That was a tough 1
It’s a sad truth for a lot of men out here.
I dont feel bad for him , i feel bad for you ladies who dont have love in your soul heart and mind to give to a man or make him feel such .. I guarantee homeboys going to be married the next....
That's the reality for men tbh. We are not loved unconditionally
Let’s be real ..him never finding a women that loves him means he’s been dating bodies and flesh over values.
Rico is the realest on the show
The brother with the jeans jacket is a stand up man. Erin was on point with some of her talking points. Women did feel stuck in those relationships, not all but some. Rico is right on somethings but he's still immature in many aspects
Erin is correct in a few cases🥺😉
I think that we as a people need to sit down and speak on issues and concerns about things that can better us as a people. Rico in this instance was right on point in his discussion so is the other young man you’re a guest . it’s a really good episode. the title is incorrect it’s not bad women created a man shortage, it is the oppressor creating a man shortage
Prenupts are NOT always acknowledged in the courts.
Good episode
Please have this discussion what benefits a man by getting married
This dude is spitting facts! 👏🏾..he was a great guest - he was neutral, non-biased, and fair. Yall should have him on more often!
When a women refuses to answer directly she is attempting to be deceitful and manipulative - Uncle Kevin Samuels
Whats funny about her example of going for an Indian man who likes her is that black women wouldn't date the black version of that Indian guy. She doesn't expect the Indian/White/Hispanic/Asian dude to have swag, that mouthpiece, an amazing D game, be 6ft+ but when dating black guys those are the only ones who are worth dealing with
I'm proud of how well these young men articulate their points without being women bashers. When a man is living in his purpose and stand on his core value he's a threat to some and admired by the rest.
Most low income black families are the ones that have single parent homes. The percentages are much lower in the black middle and upper class.
Only 34% of Black Americans are married that's a low percentage. And Black Americans divorce rate supercedes the marriage rate. Moot point!
Or maybe because she knows what commitment is
*Very fair and good talk. You guys are improving/getting better every day/every episode.*
how she going to tell a man about a man experience as a kid
She’s speaking on what she has seen or been told it’s all opinion and perspective
@@coreejacobs4780 talking about how the man was talking about his experience as a man and she telling him he wrong
I’m a woman and yes Rico is stating fact
Guy ur a blessing to the black community
This was deep
Actually men could live in the house and still get government assistance. If I’m not mistaken it’s called. Section 3 but due to the lack of knowledge the people didn’t know because we don’t research laws.
Maybe you should look up the case King vs. Smith. A Black Woman went to the supreme court court to get the man out of the house rules thrown out . Plus why would you as a man allow yourself to get thrown out of a home and not fight back and do nothing?
She is literally just there to argue… WE need to learn to listen to understand each other
Big facts
A good conversation is one where all parties do not agree
All the time and on everything
@@jadadavis586 disagreement shouldn’t be the goal… genuine conversations to understand other perspectives is the key
@@RonDJuan a one track mind shouldn’t be either when conducting a podcast like this one
I don’t get why younger women thinks that women like their grandmothers who had successful marriages were getting beat down by men? Wtf? Seriously?
Erin is an attorney?
Not all Grandmother's were stuck or beat or not happy that is dumb!!
The honest thing when it comes to men wanting to be married...I think there are plenty that wants to, willing to, and going to get married...The thing is those men aren't being checked for by women...many are looking for the bad boy, yet wants him to be respectful...It's the same for good women that are marriage material...most men aren't checking for those women...People overlook what they need versus what they want...
At 9 minutes this man said it’s easier to deal with several women than 1. That is so , so extra false! You either have to keep lying to all the women you talking to for quick pleasure or pay for quick pleasure from 304’s that don’t really care nothing about you but the money. Lastly to add. Who wants to live their whole life dealing and keeping up with several different personalities , that’s a headache waiting to happens and you will never be fulfilled in life doing that.
Period Adrian.
U can’t love everyone the same at the same time. No someone u gone love more than the other.
Y'all talking so good in the video
Mmmm Rico, I think he's came a long way but he also needs to understand a woman's mindset. We can also be emotionally unattached to men also.
There should be a part 2
It's funny how dude said women are making more than men and she agreed. But then you'll hear about the pay gap, so which is it? Women can't be outearning men but simultaneously earning less because of the patriarchy. People will try to argue that either is true to fit their own narrative
Why do we assume that laboring is easy for men? Of bills stress a woman out wouldn't laboring under another man be just as stressful?
Boys life skills: hunting and fishing, camping, lawn care, being mechanical, home maintenance, leadership, being tough when you get hurt, learning how men move and operate. (Survival)
Coddling is about point of view. Girls might be in the kitchen, but would you want her outside mowing the yard?
The black bucks argument doesn't really hold much weight since black people after slavery and Jim crow were the most married demographic and as a result most of our kids were being born within the context of marriage.
It wasn't until feminism ran rampant and women were incentivized to have kids out of wedlock did the rise of sleeping around with Pookie and Ray Ray become more acceptable
Sadly, the pookies n ray Ray's are barely 20% of Black men yet women with bad experiences with them paint Black men as a whole, even tho married the married or sexually inactive out number the Pookies and Futures.
@@mdotbeedot yep, and most of the kids are born to the Pookies and Ray Rays who have 3+ baby mamas each when plenty of other guys are childless
Don't blame feminism. If a man was not a provider what use is he? If you own a home no one can through you out of it. Stop with the excuses! Just admit you don't like women.
Aaron is right. I have a twin brother in the same home and were raised differently. Only thing he had to do was take the trash out. Yes, we were both required to get good grades, but when i didnt, it was an issue. My brother was allowed to go to parties that I couldnt go to. We're from Detroit.
Same in my childhood, as a young girl I was responsible for most of the household needs and schoolwork, I had male family members older and younger that did not have the same level of responsibilities and were not put out at 18…in fact I don’t know any of these kids that are being forced out at 18 IDK why people think this is a “black” thing because I see plenty of 30 yr olds at home
You ladies fail to realize when a woman is down on her ass there is only one way out. And as parents we don’t want our daughters hitting that low. If a man fails their are millions of ways to stay afloat and grind his way out. Women wouldn’t be willing to do those same grueling jobs men take on. That’s where it stems from. Not because y’all get held to a higher standard just cause.
@@unreasonabledoubt165 I don’t see what you mean maybe you could explain further, men and women sell a**, drugs, t-shirts and whatever else. They both grind when things get difficult so why give more responsibilities to one and not the other. We all need to know how to survive and be independent
@@coreejacobs4780 if I may add, yes both genders can do both but each has advantages the other doesn’t. The girl can sell her ass and use her sexuality if she’s down bad and come up problem is girls try to keep doing it and stay high off of the lifestyle the money provides. The guy can use his muscles, logic and willingness to partake in danger to sell drugs when they down bad and come up, problem is they keep doing it and stay high on the lifestyle the money provides. That’s why girls who start selling drugs either off the rip have a weapon or only get plays cuz niggas tryna fuck them or finesse them, and why dudes who try to sell ass/dick or look sexy for opportunities aren’t as successful as girls, cuz nobody is looking for male sexuality like they are female sexuality
Let’s talk
Great topic
Women argue to argue
Smh she not tryna listen, she want to be right so bad smh 🤦🏽♂️
This was a good conversation. Much respect
What does he mean when he says make him feel safe? What does that look and sound like for a man?
At about 9 minutes in they say Memaw was beaten by granpa and she could not get a charge card. Well both my grandmamas did not get beat and they went to the store using granddaddy's card. Both granddaddy's came home from work some days with an extra steak on the table waiting on them. I could not wait until I became that old man that got that extra steak on my plate. At 17 minutes in she makes a great point. Men need to be accountable, what ever your father did. You should be married and with your wife and child. At 52 minutes the answer is easy. The Black male is coddled and emasculated by these single mothers. He is raised to be a son-husband.
So literally right after she painted the grandma being oppressed and a victim she bragged about her grandma stabbing her grandpa can't make this shit up..RIP KEVIN SAMUELS
He was stabbed because my grandma was not going to let a man twice her size ever think he could touch her inappropriately. He learned his lesson and never tried her ever again. This came from her mouth to my ears as a lesson. Self defense is always an affirmative defense.
@@etcamp1913 I gotcha always two sides to every story though just like alotta of us grew up thinking pops just walked out on us but we were often times kept away from pops but never heard his side but u got it
@@lowkeyv2614 thats not her bro
Wonderful episode!!! So good! Great conversation!!!
This was a very good topic, I love the way the younger guy, has definitely work on himself personally and would make a great spouse, he is definitely mature and on point when it come to relationship keep educating us. Great show
Once again...Rico is the only reason I watch this channel
She said grand mother's was trapped??? NOOOO! They were HAPPY and Focused on Filling their Homes With Love and Peace and Raising their Children. They understood the diff roles and Relished in them. That's the problem today is women PAINTING A FALSE NARRATIVE on the Women in the Past to Justify they're Actions today
That’s not necessarily true. Women did go through all kinds of abuse and stayed because they really didn’t have a choice. Therefore, when things changed as far as Women’s Rights to have their own bank accounts and so forth, older women groomed younger women to not tolerate the things they tolerated and endured from men.
I’m a woman telling you what the truth is behind the things we were told. My marriage is somewhat traditional but I’m a Disabled Veteran. I don’t have to ask my husband for money. He pays all of the household bills. I stay at home. I save and invest. My husband is a Retired Disabled Veteran. He doesn’t have to but he works.
@@arleneaugustahair8393 my statement is more truer than yours because of personal testimonies from the women themselves. Many black families were VERY WELL OFF. This narrative that women like to create today about the past is totally founded mostly on lies. Thinking blacks were poor and run down. And older women didn't from women like they are today, Society did through tv, movies and music. Allot of older women are disgusted at the actions of younger women today
It really bothers me when women use that "color purple", "I'm trapped in this relationship" shit, men are scared to death to put their hands on women nowadays. Women gotta stop using examples from before they were even thought of to why they act the way they do in 2022
I’m giving personal experience. I, in fact, know women trapped in marriages. Only way out will be the demise of the spouse or themselves. If your experience, or the experiences of those around you, is different, feel free to say that.
@Erin Campbell And I know men trapped in verbally abusive relationships knowing if they even think of leaving then they are getting f'd by the matriarch family courts while their kid(s) will be weaponized against them & only listen to momma.
The women only stay with her man if she's actually self aware enough that her husband is the only one willing to deal with her, else there's enough government support for women to ditch them.
@@mdotbeedot okay, that’s true. But what is your point? I’m referencing historical issues that have plagued women. Women are JUST NOW able to survive on their own without a man. So they don’t have to stay in those types of relationships. Let us not equate the two situations, bc they are neither equal nor similar. Remember, two things can be true simultaneously.
@Erin Campbell They're different in that things heavily favor women in family & divorce court, even if it's not the most ideal case for children.
And while it's great for women to get out of abusive situations, that's NOT the majority of cases of women wrecking their homes as "inreconcilable differences" is damn near the most cited according to accounts of relationship counselors & divorce attorneys. Not even a majority of these matters is The Colored Purple yet the system treats every over like it is. So you're correct, the dynamic is not the same between the two.
The subject about black families where black mothers raise their daughters and love their sons, is such a relevant and powerful topic. Rico does not understand it (it wasn’t presented well). Also, he can’t get off of his childhood experience. Black mothers are loving their boys and raising their daughters, in his area too. They should seriously research the topic. Come back and have a show about it!
I have 4 brothers and 3 sisters.
Im from Chicago...Guys aren't coddled. We just respect our mothers more which makes them tend to like us more. Girls wana argue with their mothers and be emotional and get their way. Guys are told things that causes us to be more logical than like women who be all in dreamland. Parents divide their attention by who needs it more. I got all A's so since it was expected that's what had to be maintained. With chores, both boy and girl washed dishes, clothes, cleaned the bathroom and the boys took the garbage out, cut the grass and extra manual labor.
Prolly one of the best vids y’all did
Yes I agree WE DON’T UP LIFT OUR BLACK MEN ENOUGH
This Was A Fantastic Podcast. And This Has So Many Levels That Can Still Be Explored.
This was one of the best panels. I agreed and disagreed with everyone on the panel at different times but most importantly when I didn't agree the way they expressed themselves I could at least see where they were coming from. Excellent work!
Much respect to the way you guys got to the nitty-gritty and the root of the topic.
Another GREAT episode
Preach Rico! Its hard out here bro! Success is the only option!
Damn Darrick that was deep u be speaking the whole damn truth. That was deep all I can say as long. As u know what U want what u need u got a whole. Lot. Of love in u may god bless ur heart u deserve better. But u know where u stand U keeping it a 💯
Don’t get me wrong I like Rico he alright with me. I just think he has a young minded male perspective.
I definitely agree. 😒
Ma'am, no disrespect but those are your experiences.
It's always about them, when it comes to them doing anything for us they act like it's so hard to give just as much they are given
Good show guys
I’m not sure about other parents but I don’t play with any of my kids. All of my kids were in the kitchen with me. All of them took the trash out. All of them washed the dishes. All of them cleaned. All of them had to get good grades. They were in sports if they wanted to be in sports. They all had to learn how to drive.
She’s right about Latino families. My brother was definitely coddled and didn’t have to do much of anything. I didn’t do that with my son. My brother almost burnt my aunts house down trying to cook. 😂😂😂 I wasn’t allowing anyone to try to burn my house down.
As far as how much we make as women, it’s subjective. I made more than my ex-husband in the military because I got promoted before him. It seriously depends on the type of job you literally pick.
Great conversation as usual. Always some eye openers from 8 at the Table
Rico did a great job explaining how many young black men in America grow up. Their are no father figures around so who do we have to look up to? Women have their mom, grandson aunts, brothers, uncles to rely on, but is black me get nothing.
Honestly in my opinion the only way to fix is is for black men, is for black men without kids or a stake in someone else’s kids need to go into black communities and provide opportunities and give time to these lost boys in our communities. Some women need to step aside and let men mentor their sons. So many choose rapping and drugs because that’s all they see. Poverty or riches isn’t what makes a good character it’s those with character holding those around them accountable. There aren’t enough good apples in the hood men or women. One job can change entire family’s life.
The police do the worse jobs to contain or clip our bad apples, and as a result many of our people get cut I the process.
Even though our society is very selfish. If we want a better black community black men with means can lead the way.
Other communities don’t give us a chance and how can you blame them when we don’t give others that look like us chances.
Agreed. I think the solution is that fathers be fathers. Then we can ask the rest of the village. But let’s be clear that it starts with the presence and involvement of the father.
If that is true for the past and we see the effects it has had on generations it is time to adapt and help raise your children and others not continuously holding on to men not knowing how to be men because there were no fathers in the household
@@etcamp1913 the solution is for women to not sleep with men who have never showed any signs of being father material and who have no track record of being responsible. Dusty dudes wouldn't be able to knock women up if they didn't give them the time of day. There's a reason why other races aren't known for having out of wedlock kids in the same way as black people are
@@myafrosheen you’re right. She skeeted in herself. This may be the most illogical thing one can say in response to blk men leading the category in creating single parent homes. Don’t bother responding, bc it’s clear that we are not on the same page with respect to how the laws of cause and effect work. Good day.
Trust people to be themselves, place them in appropriate positions accordingly 💯💯💯
Really great discussion from all 3 sides 💯💯💯
No the hell they won't, my generation was the last I'm 48 that women would help their men!!
She was mad af at the most rich women came from divorce 😂
She doesn't listen well. And it seems she isn't thinking outside of the box. That energy is more of a modern feminist movement type of energy. It would be very interesting to see what her husband is like.
There is no good reason to get married at all
There are more men willing to marry today than there are women who are willing to marry. We live in a time now in which marriage for many women is looked upon as a form of slavery. Because more women are making more money themselves, many women are seeing less of a need to marry. That aside, most of the men who want to marry today no longer meet the standards of most women, which is very often unrealistic. Most women dont meet the standards of most guys these days which is often unrealistic as well. And neither side is willing to meet in the middle on it. Women are like more guys need to make more money, but if it were that easy, being a high earning guy wouldn't be special, it wouldn't even be high earning anymore, it would be the new average, and would mean the inflation of the standards of living across the board, so the money wouldn't even matter. Men are wanting women to be stay at home moms and wives or have low body counts, neither of which is reasonable in this day and age. And there are far fewer naturally feminine women. They arent even giving men many options of women who are fit in this country, especially in the Black community. The question both sides need to answer is if they put those measurements aside, what is important in a partner/mate/significant other?
She isn’t the best female voice to have on here, nothing personal but she listens to find her objection lol
49:23 to 49:40 Brotha in the denim was speaking some cold facts.
We need to have more conversations like this
Big facts Rico.
WTH is Rico talking about?! 😅
Dope platform dope people am stay tune ...
Start having pologamy relationships guys
Rico 💯 example of Mature Rawness for culture standard and generation age group 💯💯
1:02:37 Aaron ironically that was Kevin Samuels whole message
Why are men typically the best chefs ? I'll wait.
The shit going on these days you would think it should be easy to be in a relationship !!! Because it’s a lot of crazy things going on in the world!!
Wow the biblical knowledge and historical facts this man has is sexy.
I agree it’s both the people poring into you and also your (from experience; personal and others) PERCEPTION that allows you to make a CHOICE!!! We ALL grow as Hundo said “ask me 5 years ago🤷🏿♀️… LIFE IS GRAND… we have options💜💜💜 #polylife #tribelife #naturallyroyalfamilyempirelc
Just met Erin last night... She's so sweet and warm. Stunning in person and classy. 🥰
Rico my brother hit it on sometime it's the people around you or sometimes people don't don't have any it's real out here specially in low income neighborhood we should speak on this cause it may be similar when we flip it what bout women does it goes both ways just a thought 💭
The female on the panel, because she's not a woman, is very unnecessary and and not needed for the show. She's terrible and was the reason I didn't wanna finish watching. I can relate to the guy saying he's never experienced true love in any of the relationships he's been in. I've experienced the same.
Is she for real??? How would a son and daughter be raised to the same standards??? They wont have the same responsibilities as adults. Unless you believe in going half on all bills??? I believe, as well as most women do too according to posts they make, men should be providers so the upbringing automatically differs 🤦🏽♂️
Yo!!! ALLEN where is Danny deuces?
The whole women need love and men need respect thing is very problematic. Both genders need both. Why on earth would women not want respect? And men not want love? Women wanna feel respected to. You can't just put money on the table and be disrespectful and uncaring and think it's okay cuz you put money on the table. It's not.
Men always downplay the importance of household chores especially cooking. If a man can't cook that will change his health outcome his whole life (because he relies on fast food until he meets someone). Diabetes, high blood pressure, etc. And you think that's okay that a 25 year old man can't chop an onion? Girls learn this at 8 or 10 years old. This is basic hand eye coordination. I've dated men who couldn't be trusted with a knife at all because they might hurt themselves. That's sad that men can exist this way and think that's not a problem.
Edit: many men can cook, I'm sure. This comment isn't about proving who can cook more. Women are expected to be the cooks in the household, period. Even if teens and young women don't know how to cook, once she's with someone she figures it out pretty quickly as it is the expectation. Moms are the ones cooking for their children, not dads. Maybe some good dads are, but moms do the majority of this labor. Its not easy, and its just as important as working out. Just dont downplay it, thats all.
There's alot of men that cook in the home where I'm from... New Orleans
I wonder if we did a honest poll asking how many man and women could or could not cook what would those numbers look like.
Trust plenty of women who can't cook as well
And can you change your own oil???? Exactly
@@DirXRoloMusicVids aye why this comment ain’t got more likes lmfaooo
1:49 Like he said, you cant answer a false statement especially when it pertains to the black community. There are about a half a million more married black men than black women, so there's PLENTY of black men who wanted to get married....its just not enough eligibile black women!
Rico is so intelligent kudos to him wish I was this smart as almost 30😂
Why is she on this show? The show literally does not need someone that is just triggered by every statement a man makes; waiting to argue about some shit...
No lie tho, ITS SOOOO HARD to find a man that’s loyal wants one woman wants love.
It's hard to find a man who most women are lusting over who knows that everyone wants him to be loyal. There are plenty of men who get minimal play who would love to be loyal but they're sitting in your friend zone
Yeaaa if u looking at the man for his pockets
And yo...bill gates is worth 125 billion...look it up....so she got 1.5 to cook and clean. Fair if ya ask me 🤷🏾♀️
45:00 miss Obama is rare don’t act like that’s the norm
I just would like to say....Y'all trippin. 🤦🏿♂️
She has rbf (resting bit** face)… cheer up