The first thing that came to mind after the video was both Billy and Stu playing with those dolls as like 8-year-olds playing a game of plotting murders. One rehearsing the lines ghostface is gonna say on the phone and the other one responding in a high pitched voice trying to impersonate Drew Barrymore while moving the doll's hands and stuff? I can't ☠️
Rehearsing the ghost slime coastline is going to say on the phone and one voice responded a high-pitch trying to interpret Drew Barrymore while moving the dolls hands and stuff? I can't unseen 💀
Man you are really digging into the hidden details now and I love it. Really love how these minor things can add so much depth to a character and really makes you think of Stu as a psychopathic killer like real like serial killers rather than the comedic wacky bubbly idiot the film initially portrayed him to be.
I believe the dolls were Leslie Macher's dolls, Stu's sister as we found out about her in Scream 2022 and yes Stu positioned them like you said ... great video 🔪🔪🔪🩸🩸🩸🩸
Great video as always! ❤️ The doll thing symbolizes multiple things to me. Stu thinks of people like toys. He thought it was all a game and the dolls further show this childish, removed from reality mindset that Billy took advantage of. Stu was so removed from reality and had such self control issues that it makes perfect sense why it was so easy for Billy to get him on board. This lack of self control is showed further when Stu says insensitive things like "Liver alone!" and stabs Billy too deep. It makes perfect sense why Billy was the main planner, Billy knew about Stu's lack of control and therefore never trusted him completely with the plans. Stu just followed bc he loved killing and he was so blinded by creating a 'movie' that he didn't care about the consequences. This explains why Stu seemed surprised when Billy revealed his motive - Stu was so blinded by killing that he might not have questioned Billy on why he was going after Sidney in the first place.
Never once noticed the dolls , this is a great theory n I just love diving into stu’s psyche, I’m still rooting for a return one day just as Kevin intended for 3
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing, I never noticed these dolls before. I like to think some production assistant or set designer has been waiting 25 years for someone to notice and analyze this
throughout the production of the movie, wes craven and the actors of ghostface made the agreement to make gestures to tell the identity of who was inside the mask (even though i still wish they still done it through the scream movies other than scream 2). billy was the one who held the weapon with one hand, and stu was the one who held his up in the air with 2 hands (due to the absence of billy in his and sidney's scene at stu's party). if that were true, billy was responsible for casey and principal himbry's demise and stu was just following along wit the calls. due to the peer pressure and the quotes throughout the climax of the movie, i think stu was trying to accept the fact that he's following billy's plan and had to make a lot of sacrifices into carrying out "the movie," which gives his cut of the deal. maybe the dolls were like a coping mechanism to move forward with the plan until he was driven insane til the end. that's just my theory if the dolls were meant to be more than a foreshadow. great video btw, matthew lillard did an amazing job. i like these theory videos coming back. i love unraveling mysteries and hidden easter eggs in movies, it's just so fun.
This would be an interesting way to spin the franchise, bring Stu back and tie this into the story and have him bring up the fact that everyone was so focused on Billy that he was able stay under the radar all these years. Not sure how they can get past 4 movies without mentioning he was still alive and then have him be alive lol but I'm not a writer but I'm sure Kevin Williamson can figure it out.
Still finding new things within this franchise decades later is unreal. The parralells in this "theory" are simply too well connected to be overlooked as a theory. Amazing work bro. 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Stu, Amber, and Mickey all killed just to kill in my opinion 😵💫. Jill, Billy, Ms. Loomis, and Roman had personal vendettas against Sidney (and/or her mom) 🧠. Ritchie wanted to make a requel 😒.
I wish you could find something new about Mickey that we havent seen there isnt much about him AND no nobody talks enough mickey. I would love It! Great video!
Mrs. Loomis mentioned meeting Mickey in a serial killer chat room online. Kinda makes me think Mickey had other victims from before he became Ghostface that weren't in the movie.
@@rickiesanders453 yeah he was a serial killer already thats the interesting thing about him. I wish I could find a video of wes or Kevin taking More in depth about that character.
This one is extremely creepy and haunting. I love it. But you just gave me a reason to rewatch this movie. Never got to see the principal it's nice to know Stu literally hung a doll to show what they hung him up like.
It feels like something really dark probably happened to his sister, Leslie, now that we know she likely existed in that timeline... He was a psychopath and the dolls were practice, in my opinion. 🤷🏼♀️ Planning it out.
Wow. This was really interesting. SCREAM is one of my all-time favorite movies and I was so obsessed with it that I watched it 3-4 times a day for a whole year.... but I never, never noticed the dolls until now. Thanks for your awemsome videos.
3:07 He probably thought him and Billy would go on another killing spree once the fallout of them framing Neil Prescott for the murders died down not knowing Bilily planned to kill him too.
Hey I just found this channel and always enjoyed these kinds of analyses, but I do have a question. If Stu had these dolls as a way to relive a moment that he enjoyed, would it also be a possible or would it be too far of a stretch to assume that he had some kind of token or trophy, something from the murder he took part in, involving Sidney's mother? Your deepdives have got me asking so many questions and rewatching the movies for anything I missed.
I've always thought Stu did most of the killings. Billy killed Sidney's mom which the doll theory further proves as we don't have a doll for Maureen. Billy also killed Tatum. It's heavily implied that Stu was the one who raped Maureen.
Really freaky. Glad I got to see this movie in theaters with my friend in 2021 for the 25th anniversary since I was a toddler when it originally came out.
Stus attic could have been where billy and him met and discussed what they were going to as visual ads they used the dolls to illustrate what they were going to do lol. They've had a year to plan this out. Knew what they going 👤to 🗣do🙏 for🙌 a 👰whole 👯now👼 lol.👲
It would definitely make more sense if Stu was behind most of the murders, especially bc Billy's more responsible for the phone calls. It'd only make sense that Stu takes the most responsibility for the killings. Stu also acted eratically so the Himbry death makes more sense bc it seemed kind of out of nowhere so maybe Stu just went & killed him bc he could. Maybe Billy didn't even know until the people at the party got attracted by the news bc it seemed like that was a mere coincidence that the house became that empty at that exact time
Stu didn't kill the principle. Billy did. Look closely at the way each killer holds their knife. But yeah I agree. Both Billy and Stu are some truly sinister individuals. And I think they are one of a kind, the sequels failed to live up to them. The other killers are truly less scary than cold and calculating Billy and gullible eager Stu.
I just watched scream and I feel like sydney foreshadowed tatum when she said "you know I don't watch that shit, Some stupid killer stalking some big-breasted girl who can't act who is always running up the stairs when she should be running out the front door. It's insulting." Lol tatum runs up the stairs and then into the doggy door instead
what if stu returns thanks to his brother when lezzly frees him from prison, of course in episode 6 they wouldn't be the killers but cristina carpenter who was lezzly's old girlfriend in episode 7 then the matcher brothers would be the killers so it would make sense to bring sidney back the finale, brother killers, we haven't seen anything like this in a scream movie before, and Lezzy would have a reason to kill the survivors because she thinks they killed her son
What did u just attempt to say? Who is stus brother, lezzlys son vinve was killed in 5 and its known that richie did that. Im confused as hell as to what u mean
My theory in part 6 didn't work, but I want to figure out what if the masterminds are Lezzlye Macher and Christina Carpenter and they become the killers in part 7
@@Climinator-op6kh William Afton in the upcoming FNAF film. Afton as a character should be depicted as having what appears to be a friendly, unknowing personality but when the truth behind the Missing Children Incident was revealed, he showed his true face. To hide suspicion from the police, he has to be calm, manipulative and charming. Qualities Matthew can definately bring to the table if you have seen both Scream and Thirteen Ghosts. he truly has the skills and I have outmost faith and confidence
ms. Prescott -(killed by both billy and stu) ghostface caller to casey - Billy Steven orth - Killed by stu Casey- killed by stu ghostface scare attack at sidney's house- Stu ghostface caller to sidney- stu (the ghostface in the bathroom could be billy, or a prankster) ghostface in the bushes,(prankster) principal himbry- killed by billy tatum-(killed by billy, couldn't be stu, because he'se watching halloween with his party guests) kenny- killed by stu
I love your channel but you are getting really desperate for content at this point. The dolls meant nothing. Billy is the one who killed the Principal. Get a grip.
Yea the dolls meant nothing, wes craven an incredibly talented director didn't purposely put those there a random set designer just randomly em there, get outta here if u actually believe that wes definitely put them there for a reason
This is disturbing. The doll tied in the chair definitely made me agree with you, I didn't even notice that and I've seen this movie so many times.
20 god damn times?
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Me too
0:02 Anyone know the soundtrack?
I did notice the hanging doll but never thought anything about it. I dont analyze everything
The first thing that came to mind after the video was both Billy and Stu playing with those dolls as like 8-year-olds playing a game of plotting murders. One rehearsing the lines ghostface is gonna say on the phone and the other one responding in a high pitched voice trying to impersonate Drew Barrymore while moving the doll's hands and stuff? I can't ☠️
Rehearsing the ghost slime coastline is going to say on the phone and one voice responded a high-pitch trying to interpret Drew Barrymore while moving the dolls hands and stuff? I can't unseen 💀
Man you are really digging into the hidden details now and I love it. Really love how these minor things can add so much depth to a character and really makes you think of Stu as a psychopathic killer like real like serial killers rather than the comedic wacky bubbly idiot the film initially portrayed him to be.
Yea stu always has been psychopathic i could tell he gutted someone and deffinetly mafe me think he killed casey because of it.
Rest in peace Wes Creven. horror legend in my opinion. No one can ever re place him in my eyes.
I believe the dolls were Leslie Macher's dolls, Stu's sister as we found out about her in Scream 2022 and yes Stu positioned them like you said ... great video 🔪🔪🔪🩸🩸🩸🩸
but if leslie is the older sister of stu, why would she play with the dolls at that age?
@@wolfgaming2757 age has nothing to do with having dolls or playing with them.
@@reganmacneilexorcist yeah I guess you're right
Great video as always! ❤️ The doll thing symbolizes multiple things to me. Stu thinks of people like toys. He thought it was all a game and the dolls further show this childish, removed from reality mindset that Billy took advantage of. Stu was so removed from reality and had such self control issues that it makes perfect sense why it was so easy for Billy to get him on board. This lack of self control is showed further when Stu says insensitive things like "Liver alone!" and stabs Billy too deep. It makes perfect sense why Billy was the main planner, Billy knew about Stu's lack of control and therefore never trusted him completely with the plans. Stu just followed bc he loved killing and he was so blinded by creating a 'movie' that he didn't care about the consequences. This explains why Stu seemed surprised when Billy revealed his motive - Stu was so blinded by killing that he might not have questioned Billy on why he was going after Sidney in the first place.
The one tied on the chair is completely new to me. Good eye
Never once noticed the dolls , this is a great theory n I just love diving into stu’s psyche, I’m still rooting for a return one day just as Kevin intended for 3
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing, I never noticed these dolls before. I like to think some production assistant or set designer has been waiting 25 years for someone to notice and analyze this
throughout the production of the movie, wes craven and the actors of ghostface made the agreement to make gestures to tell the identity of who was inside the mask (even though i still wish they still done it through the scream movies other than scream 2). billy was the one who held the weapon with one hand, and stu was the one who held his up in the air with 2 hands (due to the absence of billy in his and sidney's scene at stu's party). if that were true, billy was responsible for casey and principal himbry's demise and stu was just following along wit the calls. due to the peer pressure and the quotes throughout the climax of the movie, i think stu was trying to accept the fact that he's following billy's plan and had to make a lot of sacrifices into carrying out "the movie," which gives his cut of the deal. maybe the dolls were like a coping mechanism to move forward with the plan until he was driven insane til the end. that's just my theory if the dolls were meant to be more than a foreshadow. great video btw, matthew lillard did an amazing job. i like these theory videos coming back. i love unraveling mysteries and hidden easter eggs in movies, it's just so fun.
This would be an interesting way to spin the franchise, bring Stu back and tie this into the story and have him bring up the fact that everyone was so focused on Billy that he was able stay under the radar all these years. Not sure how they can get past 4 movies without mentioning he was still alive and then have him be alive lol but I'm not a writer but I'm sure Kevin Williamson can figure it out.
Still finding new things within this franchise decades later is unreal. The parralells in this "theory" are simply too well connected to be overlooked as a theory. Amazing work bro. 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
The principal Henry one I thought would have been Billy (just my guess) due to timing of that kill.
Stu, Amber, and Mickey all killed just to kill in my opinion 😵💫. Jill, Billy, Ms. Loomis, and Roman had personal vendettas against Sidney (and/or her mom) 🧠. Ritchie wanted to make a requel 😒.
I wish you could find something new about Mickey that we havent seen there isnt much about him AND no nobody talks enough mickey. I would love It! Great video!
I promise I will!!
@@BeyondTheMask the true legend!!!!! Thanks Man!❤️ Cheers from PR!
Mrs. Loomis mentioned meeting Mickey in a serial killer chat room online. Kinda makes me think Mickey had other victims from before he became Ghostface that weren't in the movie.
@@rickiesanders453 yeah he was a serial killer already thats the interesting thing about him. I wish I could find a video of wes or Kevin taking More in depth about that character.
This one is extremely creepy and haunting. I love it. But you just gave me a reason to rewatch this movie. Never got to see the principal it's nice to know Stu literally hung a doll to show what they hung him up like.
It feels like something really dark probably happened to his sister, Leslie, now that we know she likely existed in that timeline... He was a psychopath and the dolls were practice, in my opinion. 🤷🏼♀️ Planning it out.
Wow. This was really interesting. SCREAM is one of my all-time favorite movies and I was so obsessed with it that I watched it 3-4 times a day for a whole year.... but I never, never noticed the dolls until now. Thanks for your awemsome videos.
Woah never noticed that dolls. That's really creepy. Good work noticing.
One thing I disagreed with is he killed Himbry. It was Billy. Stu was leaving with Tatum and Sidney when Himbry was killed
3:07 He probably thought him and Billy would go on another killing spree once the fallout of them framing Neil Prescott for the murders died down not knowing Bilily planned to kill him too.
AMAZING VIDEO! I’ve always wondered this
Hey I just found this channel and always enjoyed these kinds of analyses, but I do have a question. If Stu had these dolls as a way to relive a moment that he enjoyed, would it also be a possible or would it be too far of a stretch to assume that he had some kind of token or trophy, something from the murder he took part in, involving Sidney's mother? Your deepdives have got me asking so many questions and rewatching the movies for anything I missed.
I never thought of it like this??
There’s dolls up there? Since when 💀
Damn this is brilliant! I never caught these, and was even hesitant to dig into this video thinking it was “reaching”
Literally never noticed the dolls til you bought it up! Damn Stu was seriously fd uo lol. Good work X
I've always thought Stu did most of the killings. Billy killed Sidney's mom which the doll theory further proves as we don't have a doll for Maureen. Billy also killed Tatum. It's heavily implied that Stu was the one who raped Maureen.
None of them raped her, she had sex with cotton weary before they killed her
Oof.
where is that implied ? i believe u i just wanna read more on it
@@lexienewman7785yeah, how was that implied
she did not get rape
Really freaky. Glad I got to see this movie in theaters with my friend in 2021 for the 25th anniversary since I was a toddler when it originally came out.
I just love this channel
Stus attic could have been where billy and him met and discussed what they were going to as visual ads they used the dolls to illustrate what they were going to do lol. They've had a year to plan this out. Knew what they going 👤to 🗣do🙏 for🙌 a 👰whole 👯now👼 lol.👲
It would definitely make more sense if Stu was behind most of the murders, especially bc Billy's more responsible for the phone calls. It'd only make sense that Stu takes the most responsibility for the killings. Stu also acted eratically so the Himbry death makes more sense bc it seemed kind of out of nowhere so maybe Stu just went & killed him bc he could. Maybe Billy didn't even know until the people at the party got attracted by the news bc it seemed like that was a mere coincidence that the house became that empty at that exact time
This just blew my mind.
beyond the mask hello could you do a video on mickey altieri disturbing reason scream theory mickey was my favorite ghostface of all time
Yes good ideal
Stu didn't kill the principle. Billy did. Look closely at the way each killer holds their knife.
But yeah I agree. Both Billy and Stu are some truly sinister individuals. And I think they are one of a kind, the sequels failed to live up to them. The other killers are truly less scary than cold and calculating Billy and gullible eager Stu.
I've seen this movie 20 God damn times (pun intended) and I have never paid attention to the dolls!
So let me get this strait! I mentioned this in your comments a while back and you can't even give someone credit
Stu plays with voodoo dolls to stage and plan the action scenes of his horror movie!
That room apparently a bedroom now, be weird to sleep there.
Stu was clearly the more disturbed of the two
This video is why stu is my favourite killer 🤗
Damnnnn deep cuts, no pun intended
I just watched scream and I feel like sydney foreshadowed tatum when she said "you know I don't watch that shit, Some stupid killer stalking some big-breasted girl who can't act who is always running up the stairs when she should be running out the front door. It's insulting." Lol tatum runs up the stairs and then into the doggy door instead
Lol I also realized the irony that sydney, herself, proceeded to run upstairs lol
They were probably plotting & scheming up in the attic where no one would hear them.
what if stu returns thanks to his brother when lezzly frees him from prison, of course in episode 6 they wouldn't be the killers but cristina carpenter who was lezzly's old girlfriend in episode 7 then the matcher brothers would be the killers so it would make sense to bring sidney back the finale, brother killers, we haven't seen anything like this in a scream movie before, and Lezzy would have a reason to kill the survivors because she thinks they killed her son
What did u just attempt to say? Who is stus brother, lezzlys son vinve was killed in 5 and its known that richie did that. Im confused as hell as to what u mean
My theory in part 6 didn't work, but I want to figure out what if the masterminds are Lezzlye Macher and Christina Carpenter and they become the killers in part 7
0:02 Anyone know the soundtrack?
As messed up as this is, it makes sense
I cant see the dolls at all. I had my brightness maxed too...
This was amazing 👏🙌 💯💯💯💯💯
Holy Shit!! I'm stunned...wow.
stu was crazier and maybe more dangerous than billy
Guess if we needed more proof that it was him that got the principal we just got it
Calling it now, Stu Macher's dad is the mastermind behind all the movies and will be revealed in 7.
Interesting 👍 🐾 💞 😊
I said it before and I'll say it again, this role alone showed that Matthew Lillard is PERFECT for the role of The Joker!
well look at who he was recently announced to be
@@PChamileon97 who's that?
@@Climinator-op6kh William Afton in the upcoming FNAF film.
Afton as a character should be depicted as having what appears to be a friendly, unknowing personality
but when the truth behind the Missing Children Incident was revealed, he showed his true face.
To hide suspicion from the police, he has to be calm, manipulative and charming. Qualities Matthew can definately bring to the table if you have seen both Scream and Thirteen Ghosts.
he truly has the skills and I have outmost faith and confidence
@@PChamileon97 oh I have both Scream and Thirteen Ghosts. I agree. He should've been The Joker against Batfleck instead we got weird emo geezer.
I heard the dolls were a reference to Deep Red
Cool theory, I don’t agree with it. But I still think it’s cool.
a vary disturbed individual. all aboard!! stutrain
2:10 3:11
They planned or reenacted those murders, the rest were all at the party...
Maybe the dolls are Stu sister dolls as we learned he has a sister mentioned in 5.
He has a sister??
@@ct6852 Yes
The most interesting
Yes!!!!!!!!!
2:02 please dont use music its scary
Every🏃 video 🚶is 🕴a 💃scream 🕺baby 👥lol👤
Stu is rich asf I always forgot that . Only way he can be alive is if his father faked his death and payed off sum cops since mooneys are persuasive .
🙅always 🤰learning 🤴cool👸 new 🤷things 🤦about 🙇my 🙎favorite🙍 horror 💇movies 💆thanks🙋 to 🙋you💁 lol.🙆
i think billy killed 3 and stu killed 2
ms. Prescott -(killed by both billy and stu)
ghostface caller to casey - Billy
Steven orth - Killed by stu
Casey- killed by stu
ghostface scare attack at sidney's house- Stu
ghostface caller to sidney- stu
(the ghostface in the bathroom could be billy, or a prankster)
ghostface in the bushes,(prankster)
principal himbry- killed by billy
tatum-(killed by billy, couldn't be stu, because he'se watching halloween with his party guests)
kenny- killed by stu
Was the Chinese ghostface living in Stu’s home related to him?
Amber? No
@@waxolotl7563 the Chinese one yeah. How did her family come to live there. Who moves into a grassy murder scene house. That’s just crazy
Her family bought the house
@@waxolotl7563 she probably was could be Stu's niece
@@jayshannon9706 as far as we know Stu only had one sister. Vinces mom
FIRST
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I love your channel but you are getting really desperate for content at this point. The dolls meant nothing. Billy is the one who killed the Principal. Get a grip.
Yea the dolls meant nothing, wes craven an incredibly talented director didn't purposely put those there a random set designer just randomly em there, get outta here if u actually believe that wes definitely put them there for a reason
Stu Needs to come back after 20 something Years in Prison on good terms, and Crosses to the Good Side!!!
#stulive