How to correctly apply Spray Max 2K clear coat to your guitar

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  • @stufromoz8164
    @stufromoz8164 3 роки тому +17

    Are you sure vinegar is hydrochloric acid??? and not acetic acid ???I would seriously check out your types of acid before giving people advice on using acid, especially mixing acids with other chemicals like methylated spirits etc. Please check this out vinegar is not hydrochloric acid it is acetic acid, Hydrochloric acid is the acid that occurs in our stomachs. It is used in the concrete industry to clean of concrete build up on tools and agitators, please dont ever put hydrochloric acid on a guitar and be careful what you mix hydrochloric acid with e.g mixed with chlorine you will make mustard gas which is nasty stuff. Please be careful with the advise you give out vinegar is not hydrochloric acid it is acetic acid there is a huge difference.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +2

      Oops, you are totally right. I need to amend this....

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +2

      I have pinned this comment.

    • @stufromoz8164
      @stufromoz8164 3 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons Please be very careful with chemicals careful in there labeling and there using it is very easy for things to go wrong very quickly with chemicals. I hate correcting people Daniel but when I saw this I thought for peoples safety it needed to be pointed out. Great channel mate and I love your creativity it is inspiring.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      You are absolutely correct, what a terrible slip of the tongue. Safety first.

    • @stufromoz8164
      @stufromoz8164 3 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons Oh well you got another sub ....cheers from Down Under.

  • @d3w4yn3
    @d3w4yn3 3 роки тому +6

    Really glad you showed the mirror and peeling off the tape! During the spraying I saw that texture and I thought "wow, there's something really wrong here, how come he isn't seeing that!", but then you were and it was part of your plan!!!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      Ha, thanks. I decided to leave mentioning it until the end so I could get straight into the spraying.

  • @littlecncshop
    @littlecncshop Рік тому +8

    You don't want to wait 24 hours between coats. The reason it says to wait 10-15 mins is because you want the layers to melt into each other. If you wait 24 hours, you'll just be laying over a dried coat.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +5

      You are right. There is however the need to wait 24 hours in certain cases. You need to wait 10 to 15 minutes between layers, but it's a bad idea to out on too many layers in one go as it can prevent the first layers from properly curing, or at least different rates of curing for the inner and outer layers which can cause issues. This is particularly a problem for 1k paints, but I think it would still be an issue here. I think it's unlikely you will need more than 3 coats, however if, like me, you have anything hand painted that has raised parts you may want to. In which case I recommend 24 hours to allow it fully cure, a light sand to allow for keying of the new layers, then apply the new coats - again no more than 3 in one session. I hope that makes sense.

    • @peterlennihan4996
      @peterlennihan4996 10 місяців тому +2

      he wanted to sand it out. he did it right

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  10 місяців тому

      @peterlennihan4996 thanks.

  • @JohnHenry2420
    @JohnHenry2420 3 роки тому +2

    Wet sanding works well also and helps the sand paper last longer without loading and clogging...but you need a towels or two to keep the mess under control.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +1

      So much mess, the worst part of the process.

  • @spraymax
    @spraymax Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the great Video and the recommendation!
    Cheers, your SprayMax-Team

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +2

      It's my pleasure. This is one of my most popular videos and I get lots of questions about using SprayMax. I'll be doing another video soon showing the different finishes.

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    Thankyou Devil & sons ---now I think I see the problem ---typical Yankee slang ---googled it ---faulty aerosol application in certain areas--surely there must be a more civilised English description ---anyhow --very grateful for the explanation !

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      I was introduced to the word when I did a contemporary wood finishing course by my tutor, the same person that taught me French polishing. He was a British man in his 60s, so perhaps it is a traditionally used term?

  • @PedroPlckle
    @PedroPlckle 2 роки тому +3

    Dev. Just a note, if you hold the activator release valve down after you've released the activator, technically, you are holding a valve open for mixture to return whence it came. Best not to hold it open after the activator release process is complete. Germans [von Frankfürt] don't tend to leave any ambiguity in their instructions 😃

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      What a good point! Now I want to cut a can open to see how it works.

  • @bogostoyanov6872
    @bogostoyanov6872 2 роки тому +1

    I found all the information i needed under the video. I'm simply amazed!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      There's a great community here on UA-cam and I'm so thankful for the people that subscribe and comment on my videos, the discussions add so much. Thanks for your contribution.

    • @bogostoyanov6872
      @bogostoyanov6872 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons I would really appreciate if somebody have some information how it works on a veneer surface as a refinish. Wish you all the best! Greetings from Bulgaria!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      I can't see why a veneer would be any different from a wood finish. As I also, it's worth a test on some spare bits.

  • @donniles3531
    @donniles3531 2 роки тому +3

    Spray max says the pot life is 48 hrs at 68 deg. I recently activated a can and did a small job with plenty left over. The clear coat was still
    good, and sprayed well 1 week after activating it. It was in my garage where the temp was 65-70 degrees. I actually tested it on a painted can
    before using it on my car. It dried to touch in about 15 minutes, and fully dried after an hour. So I don't know why the manufacturer says it
    has a 2 day pot life. I could see it if it was a 2 part version intended to be used with a spray gun, in which case the mix would be exposed to
    air. So as long as it still sprays- it's good. Don't throw it out after 2 days.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      Great tip. I have noticed with the cans I had that a few days later the little bit left still sprayed too (but I didn't need it) so I think you are right and this isn't a one off.

    • @TristanJCumpole
      @TristanJCumpole 2 роки тому +1

      Not a tip, since this cannot be relied upon to work in all cases. A manufacturer's statement can be, even when edge cases may show them to be overly conservative. YMMV

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      I think you are spot on with that, they don't want to risk someone having a bad experience so set the limits to ensure that. Thanks for your input.

    • @cheechdubinsky6709
      @cheechdubinsky6709 Рік тому +1

      Heard if you keep the can cold after activation, it'll last longer

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      I think this is probably the case. I feel like I should buy a can and just keep testing every 12 hours.

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    After sanding extensively and triple priming --8 Coats of Chinese yellow nitro cellulose spray paint ---I can still see nasty scratches--holes etc --huge shrinking of this cheapo paint --will keep applying more coats! Maybe I will eventually get a smooth finish on my guitar body !

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      When you're using nitrocellulose you shouldn't really apply anything on top other than more nitro. Nitro also needs 2 weeks minimum before more coats and finishing. I tend to do ni more than three sessions of nitro application before waiting 2 weeks. When I'm finishing and buffing I wait a month after the last coat before doing anything.

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    BUFFING & polishing final coat helps !

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice job anyhow --well done !

  • @joeyshaw5485
    @joeyshaw5485 2 місяці тому +1

    Looks good! But why wouldn’t you spray all 6 coats with the mirror unmasked?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 місяці тому

      Good point. I can't remember what I was thinking at the time. I think it may have been to help make sure that I didn't ship the acrylic paint when removing the tape, but I don't know if that would actually happen. Hmm. I'm doing a similar guitar at the moment and I am planning to do all 6 over the mirror.

    • @joeyshaw5485
      @joeyshaw5485 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons using rustoleum triple thick glaze would help with that. But whatever ya did worked! Looks good

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 місяці тому

      Thanks. I need to look into that triple thick glaze

  • @fluidalchemist68
    @fluidalchemist68 2 роки тому +1

    Nice t-shirt mate, and great video :-)

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      Cheers. Do you mean the Love Cats one? I've had it years - it's hand screen printed by an artist, I think her name is Alice Roberts. I'll have to look it up.

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    Zambia ---we have fabulous teak forests==but rather heavy --and mahogany --everywhere ---trying plywood as its lighter --but difficult to get a nice paint finish ---
    everything is imported --some things like 400 waterpaper ---are hens teeth --but we improvise ! Bush craft and U -Tube help me enormously !

  • @reiddeschand2385
    @reiddeschand2385 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the video. What grit of sand paper do you use to sand the clear before adding your final 3 coats of clear?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  6 місяців тому +1

      I use 600, and prefer a wet sand.

  • @andysaucedo3226
    @andysaucedo3226 Рік тому +1

    I love love love Montana spray paint.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +1

      It definitely isn't the best for guitars, but I love the colours and it's my go to. Thanks for commenting. Have you tried the new effects they have? There's some marbling, crackle, and rust. I want to give then all a go sometime.

    • @andysaucedo3226
      @andysaucedo3226 Рік тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons I agree that they do tend to build up and get a textured look, but that can be fixed in one of two ways. The first being a light sanding with 1000 the next day before you top coat it. The second way is the change the tip on the can to Montana's wide pattern. You do go through more material, but it lays more evenly. Also, if you notice a build up it may mean that you may want to increase the speed of your patern.
      I have tried the florescent colours and they are amazing. And lastly, is it me or does MTN94 have a sweet, candy like scent?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +1

      I recently switched to the wide tips, much improved finish, and yes to the sanding. I should look onto the flourescent too, I'd love to do a fluorescent guitar.
      So funny you can smell the colours. It's like eating smarties, I'm sure the different colours taste different, but not 100% sure.

    • @andysaucedo3226
      @andysaucedo3226 Рік тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons
      They don't have a whole lot of variety when it comes to the florescent colours, but they are stunning. I should note that the florescent colours are best when layed on top of a pure white; the R-9010 is a must. I usually will get excellent coverage with about ¾ of a can and the next day I do a light sanding and apply the remaining colour. I then top it off with Montanas high gloss 2K.
      Cheers,
      Andy

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Andy. How durable is the 2k top coat? I'm not sure I'll change to anything after using the spraymax.

  • @302sobriety6
    @302sobriety6 3 роки тому +1

    Great information!! Thank you

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +1

      It's a pleasure, thanks for commenting

  • @kellyowens1222
    @kellyowens1222 7 місяців тому +1

    Wowwwww how did you get that cracked mirror effect over the guitar so that its level with the rest of the surface you just sprayed? It's wildly gorgeous!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      Thanks.
      Lots of trial and error to get that right.

  • @a2235
    @a2235 11 місяців тому +2

    Should I lightly scuff the base coat on a black guitar before spraying??

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  11 місяців тому +1

      Unless you are using a nitrocellulose lacquer you should lightly sand to allow the top coat something to bond with. However certain paints, like metallics and sparkles shouldn't be sanded. So with black you're OK to sand

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    I am 74 --never heard the expression --only bubbling or -stippling or dry angular spray --never had "ORANGE PEEL " EFFECT ----ever --bad technique I suppose ?--been a luthier /car painter for 50 yrs !
    got to hold can or spray nozzle ---at 90 deg to the guitar ---one foot away --

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      That's cool. I'm sure you have phrases and descriptions I've never heard of. Thanks for watching and commenting. Great to make contact.

  • @a2235
    @a2235 11 місяців тому +1

    Geat video! What should you do if there are runs in your base coat?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. Definitely sand it so you can't see the runs. If you then run a lightly damp cloth over the paintwork and it looks good you can go ahead with the clear top coat (basically what it looks like wet is whatsit will look like with the clear on). Or you may want to out another thin base coat over the top.

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    Orange PEEL ?---Paint peeling off /? ---NEVER HEARD OF IT !--What does it mean ?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      It's when the surface of the paint looks like orange peel, textured with dimples. Often caused by the paint being applied too thickly.

  • @HellishFigure86
    @HellishFigure86 3 роки тому +3

    Great video, However your tip about the French polish technique caused a lot of issues for me. I use Montana gold paints and recently used a Montana crackle effect. I used the 50/50 mix stated in the vid and it caused the crackle paint to soften which as soon as you apply the Spraymax 2k clear, it caused bubbles to form on the clear. So basically I've had to sand and start again. Don't worry, I'm not blaming you :). Is there anything else you could suggest I could use to clean the surfaces before applying the clear that might be safer to use?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for letting me know. I've not heard of Montana crackle effect. I think you should do some practice tests before trying the main thing. I have a feeling the spraymax may cause that to happen as I wonder how strong the texture is to withstand the shrinking of a top coat. I am right that the crackle causes a textured surface? I'd be surprised if it were what you cleaned it with. You could try water instead but that will take longer to evaporate and may seep into the gaps in the crackle, which may be what happened with the crackle. The other thing that more basically may have happened is the bubbling just may be an incompatibility between the paint and the spraymax as I have found using other non-montana gold paints from a can has caused bubbles and wrinkles with various top coats - sometimes i have left it dry, lightly sanded, added a new top coat,repeated a few times and git quite a cool crackle/relic look. Feel free to email me some photos info@devilandsons.guitars and maybe I can suggest something.

    • @PedroPlckle
      @PedroPlckle 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons Just use neat methylated spirit. It evaporates to nothing. The french polisher sounds like he's using the vinegar to reduce costs of his much larger inventory. Adding an extra acid 'cut' to the clean is simply not necessary if you use a sufficient quantity of meths.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      @@PedroPlckle interesting. The vinegar was because the acetic acid is hard to get hold of, which is more expensive than meths, so I doubt it was a cost cutting thing. I mean he used acetic acid but I use vinegar.

  • @markadams3047
    @markadams3047 2 місяці тому +1

    How long should I wait before sanding and buffing the 2k clear?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 місяці тому

      It's probably OK after 48 hours, but I try to leave it a week.

    • @markadams3047
      @markadams3047 2 місяці тому

      @@DevilAndSons Thanks!!

  • @dannyboysibley331
    @dannyboysibley331 Рік тому +1

    I couldn’t understand what was the name of the 2 cleaning solutions he used…distilled white vinegar and??? Can someone please explain?Thanks

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +1

      Now, that's confusing. In the UK we have methylated spirits but other countries don't have it. Someone suggested to me it is rubbing alcohol. Maybe if you Google for a methylated spirits equivalent on your country it will give you an answer that you can share here. It's purple here but the equivalent in other countries is most likely clear.

    • @dannyboysibley331
      @dannyboysibley331 Рік тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons Thanks for the information

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      Good luck with whatever you're working on, something fun I hope.

  • @jimhmod
    @jimhmod 5 місяців тому +1

    Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait to recoat using the 2k glamour clear coat.
    I ran out of paint on the third coat and I have some areas that aren't covered well and the finish isn't so glamorous on those areas.
    I have another can ordered that should be here in a week.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  5 місяців тому

      Hi. I don't know what the glamour paint is, but if it's like a metallic it's normally best not to sand the final coat. You could lightly sand what you have, apply the next layers and then the first clear coat layer - that you can sand. I would imagine it's a 48 hour dry, most 2Ks are 24 to 48 and should say on the can.

    • @jimhmod
      @jimhmod 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons Thanks for the reply. It is the Spraymax 2k Galmour clear. No metallic just a fancy name for clear coat i guess.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  5 місяців тому

      @@jimhmod I just did a really quick internet search, and I think the glamour is the same as the gloss, it's just the name used in the US. I may be wrong. In which case it's exactly the same as what I was using.

  • @tjtj7161
    @tjtj7161 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you use this on an acrylic art project that's based on metal canvas? I think I bought the wrong stuff. Hah

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  10 місяців тому

      I can't see why not. I always recommend testing products compatibility especially the first time but I use it on acrylic all the time and it's fine.

  • @jamiedude1197
    @jamiedude1197 23 дні тому +1

    What grit sandpaper you using there thanks

  • @popaki9484
    @popaki9484 2 роки тому +2

    Im painting my bike fork and have a question. If some parts have an existing clear coat that I didn’t sand off will it be okay to spray this over it? Montana can gold spray was giving me a texture finish until I figured out why....I wasn’t shaking it long enough! So you can eliminate the texture by shaking the can for 5min

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, good shaking is key. I would always lightly sand anything that's there to ensure the new paint has something to key and grip against. Sounds like a cool project.

    • @popaki9484
      @popaki9484 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons the area that needed to be painted was painted and sanded down nice and smooth but surrounding area has existing clear coat. Is it safe when spraying the new painted area to spray over existing clear coat adjacent to it?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      I still think spraying over anything without sanding it first runs the risk that it may peel, so if you are clear coating the newly painted area and it spills over to the old clear coat it could peel away from the old area in time. It may not. It's hard to picture but sounds like it's too much to sand all the adjacent area light and clear coat it all again. Also you may need a good clear coat on a bike as it may chip easily otherwise. I like spraymax 2k (I have a video on that too).

    • @popaki9484
      @popaki9484 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons thank you. I will try to find more info about spraying over clear. I think it’ll look funny if I tape it off and clear coat the decal section I painted. I would think the two clear coats may look different. I dont know. But I bought the 2k

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      @@popaki9484 that may be a reason to spray it all perhaps. Good luck.

  • @jacobf7866
    @jacobf7866 Рік тому +1

    How many coats of the spray max would you recommend doing if you don't have to sand an improperly prepped guitar?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      I find that three coats in one session (15 minutes apart) is often enough. Don't forget though you still need to light sand first to help the spraymax key into the layer underneath.

  • @dominiclavorato139
    @dominiclavorato139 2 роки тому +1

    I just order a few cans. Question - how long should I wait to wet sand after applying the first 3 coats?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +3

      I have found that most times just 3 coats is enough. I think 24 hours is fine, but if you're not in a rush then leaving itv48 hours is a good idea. However if your wanting to put more coats on from the same can then I would wet sand after 24 hours and then apply the next coats as you don't really want to be using the same can with more time than that after you initially trigger the button underneath.

  • @QGMODS
    @QGMODS 2 роки тому +2

    So i'm at a stage where i put 3 coats of spraymax 2k on the guitar, there's some orange peel plus there are some vinyl stickers under there so i think i need to do another 3 coats. So, up to what grip of sandpaper do i go before doing the second session of 2k?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      I always start carefully at this stage. I would use 800, you want to be careful not to go through the spraymax and sand any of the paint or stickers underneath. You won't have to work with anything finer before putting the next coat on. If you are getting orange peel you could try either a slightly further distance between your can and the body or moving slightly quicker - one cause of orange peel could be the thickness and these two elements will help. After another round of 3 coats if you still have orange peel or lumps from the vinyl start with the 800 and get finer, if it's looking flat and like it doesn't need more coats you can keep getting finer with the paper until you are ready to buff. I normally go 800, 1000, 1500 then buff. Sometimes I miss out the 800, and recently I have been adding 2000. Good luck.

    • @QGMODS
      @QGMODS 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons if i use the 800 to prep the second session of clear coat, won't that scratch the surface and make the clear coat look all white and non transparent? And if spray over that won't i seal those imperfections under the second session of clear coat?
      Thanx

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      It will definitely scratch and make it look white, but the next coat will hide all imperfections. If you are worried try 1000 grit. Basically though if you wipe the surface with something wet it will give the exact appearance that you will get with the next coat so you can see the cloudy white dissappear. Perhaps I should make a video on this topic? It's a very valid question to ask if you haven't done it before.

    • @QGMODS
      @QGMODS 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons thanx for the clarification. Will have a video on my channel in a few days of me failing spectacularly!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      Ha. I am sure there will be a video of you successfully creating something amazing.

  • @stanislaviakhno2328
    @stanislaviakhno2328 9 місяців тому

    Hei! Thanks for your video. I am wondering how much time it takes for 2k lacquer to fully solidify? I am on day 3, the surface seemed fine but after buffing the surface seem to accumulate even slight touches by fingers…That sucks really, as it will need an extra polishing & buffing

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  9 місяців тому +2

      That doesn't sound right at all. I normally find it's fine within 24 hours and have never had it accumulate marks like that. Possibly it's on too thick but it sounds more like the two parts haven't mixed properly.

  • @jieunlee6470
    @jieunlee6470 2 роки тому +1

    Can I use Minwax polyurethane fast-drying spray on my guitar?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      I've never used it, but I don't see why not. Polyurethane is a common finish for guitars.

  • @logiemink
    @logiemink Рік тому +1

    I keep seeing people use this 2k clear coat but the safety aspect seems to be underplayed with a variety of advice - there are professionals who say you should never use this product unless wearing an air fed mask and have high quality air filtration where its being sprayed
    Until that's explained better I will have to use nitro or acrylic with best 1k I can find

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      Safety is important. I believe nitro may be more toxic though. One of my suppliers no longer sells nitro to the public without them signing a waiver to say they are aware if the toxicity. Just a heads up there.

    • @logiemink
      @logiemink Рік тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons apparently there's a 2K formula that has removed the isocyanates but doesn't seem to be available

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      That would be good 👍 I wonder when we'll be seeing it available to buy?

    • @Case_
      @Case_ 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm sure it also depends on exposure. You should definitely use some kind of respirator at the very least with the 2k stuff and maintain good ventilation, but I don't think the risk is that high if you spray a guitar or two as a project once a year. But it obviously gets a lot more serious if you spray one every week or even more often. In that case, the air fed mask becomes a reasonable requirement.
      And, as pointed out, nitro is not that great either (no paints are, really). There's a reason nitro is downright banned in several countries while 2k stuff is available just fine even in "hobbyist" rattle cans.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  11 місяців тому +1

      I think you are spot on.

  • @Matan2222222
    @Matan2222222 Рік тому +1

    Have you've ever had blushing problem (white/clear haze trapped moisture)? If so, how do you fix it

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +1

      I have in the past when using nitro (you can apply some heat to help with that) and the odd can of poly (I had to sand back) but i haven't with this. But that doesn't mean to say you might not get it, you just need to be careful with application and make sure it's not too cold when you spray both in the room and the can itself. I always make sure the room is heated first in the winter and the cans are at room temperature. I don't leave the heating on though whilst I spray.

    • @Matan2222222
      @Matan2222222 Рік тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons Cool! Thanks!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      Have you got a project planned?

    • @Matan2222222
      @Matan2222222 Рік тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons yeah a Strat guitar body. I have some areas in the body that the colour coat is hazy. I'll try some no blush retarder from MOHAWK I'll see if it's working

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому +1

      That's a good idea. If the retarder is made for the sort of paint you have used it should work, I think it may depend on how long it has been left but not sure on the specifics. Good luck.

  • @lvignals
    @lvignals 2 роки тому +1

    Once you activate the 2 parts of the clear coat, what is the lifetime of the can i.e. total work time?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      I think the can says 24 hours, although I have used them for 3 days in a row before - which I think was lucky due to temperatures. I would recommended spray one day, then 24 hours later, then not risk it.

    • @Slmillz4257
      @Slmillz4257 2 роки тому +1

      48 hrs

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      Thanks for confirming 👍

  • @markbrown1609
    @markbrown1609 Рік тому +1

    good vid, what respirator mask you using?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      It's a 3m full mask, with an abek 1 filter. I also have particulate filters on it as I use it for wood work too, I can't remember if they p1r filters or not.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  Рік тому

      Also, thanks for watching.

  • @addictedtogear
    @addictedtogear 3 роки тому +1

    Can you use 2k over laquer?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      I wouldn't advise it as it may well react badly and cause problems right away, or look OK to start then problems will arise later. They won't bond well. Although actually you can put lacquer on top of the poly.

    • @addictedtogear
      @addictedtogear 3 роки тому

      @@DevilAndSons so if I use rustoleum instead I should be ok?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      I think that is also a poly and probably not the best thing to put over a lacquer. You may be able to seal the lacquer so it can be painted over. Are you just looking for a clear coat? Is there a reason you don't want to use a lacquer finish?

    • @addictedtogear
      @addictedtogear 3 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons no my question is if I use rustoleum can I shoot 2k max over it?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      I'm certain rustoleum is a urethane so yes. It's a brand I haven't used.

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    No luxuries here in the African bush ---we use TOOTHPASTE /wire wool and pot scouring powder to pollish & buff imported paint with !
    necessity is the mother ---- of invention __

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      Wow, that sounds so interesting. Where are you based and what are you doing? Building from scratch or repainting an existing guitar?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      Wow, that sounds so interesting. Where are you based and what are you doing? Building from scratch or repainting an existing guitar?

  • @cjwguitars632
    @cjwguitars632 3 роки тому +1

    How many coats/bodies can you normally get out of a single can? What is the pot life of the can once the red button is pressed and mixed? I've considered using this product before, but without having a dedicated spray booth, I will not risk it with the flammability and chemicals.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +3

      I would definitely recommend doing this in a spray booth or outdoors (although their is a risk of dust). I normally manage 2 bodies out of a can although I hear some people can get a bit more. I did spray a guitar and neck and some additional parts I had painted and use up a whole can earlier this week. If you have one guitar to spray only you may have left over which although is a waste is probably worth it for the quality you get from this.

    • @cjwguitars632
      @cjwguitars632 3 роки тому +1

      Next question. Have you ever used it over bare wood? I wonder if some oilier woods would give adhesion problems with the 2K?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      I haven't. I wouldn't imagine they would be a problem but I would always do a test first and personally would always use a sealer first too. I wonder if using this on bare wood would involve 3 coats, let it dry then sand flat followed by another three coats, mainly because of the wood grain needing filling. The 2k is pretty thick but probably not as good as a sealer or primer.

    • @AaronPendergast
      @AaronPendergast 2 роки тому +1

      I have 6 cans coming tomorrow, and two wood bodies that have been sealed with solarez. I'll update on how much I used.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      Brilliant, thanks for sharing your results when they happen. I have been getting one guitar per can, sometimes one guitar and a bit more. Although I just worked on a guitar that I had hand painted and needed up putting more than one can on to get it smooth - 3 layers at a time, let it dry 24 hours, sand , next 3 layers. It was roughly 6 layers per can.

  • @JB-tw5bc
    @JB-tw5bc 3 роки тому +1

    Have you tried it on leather?

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +1

      I haven't. Are you planning something amazing?

    • @JB-tw5bc
      @JB-tw5bc 3 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons yessir I want to paint a part of a shoe with chameleon paint and seal it in with a high gloss finish

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      Cool. Maybe you'll need a more flexible finish, like something used by cosplayers?

    • @boobam3648
      @boobam3648 3 роки тому +1

      this will absolutely not work for leather. this is a very hard, rigid coating. it will crack and peel off almost instantly.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      I think you are right.

  • @3000KTM
    @3000KTM 2 роки тому +1

    help please , i just bought a brand new evh 5150 guitar - matte finish with a 5150 logo sticker on .
    can i paint with this clear coat to preserve matt paint from wearing off over time ?
    ive asked a luthier here in nz & he said no itd dampen the sound & won't do it .. should i try or avoid ?
    thank you

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for commenting. Firstly if you put a clear coat on it would have to be a matt finish which would essentially be the same as what you have, unless you meant you wanted to give it a clear finish. Secondly the problem with matt is over time, as you play and brush against the surface, is that you are essentially polishing the surface so it will get a bit shiny - that's unavoidable (unless you don't play it). If you love the matt and don't like any signs of use you may just have to refinish the surface every few years (depending on how much you play), and that doesn't necessarily mean a new top coat but could be just reapplying the matt finish with wire wool (I wouldn't try that if you don't know what you are doing). Also I totally disagree that adding another top coat will dampen the sound, it's just the same as what isotherm but very slightly thicker now.
      My advice is to leave it, that effect the surface of any guitar that you play is unavoidable and I don't think you would notice the matt finish becoming too shiny for quite some time unless you either play a lot or polish your guitar regularly. When it needs a clean just use a barely damp cloth to wipe over it.
      I hope that helps. Also, cool guitar purchase!

    • @3000KTM
      @3000KTM 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons thank you so much for such a detailed reply 👌 very helpful

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

  • @harrismagnum04
    @harrismagnum04 10 місяців тому +1

    let go, the pin is blocking the hole otherwise

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  10 місяців тому

      Is that how it works? A pin that breaks a seal?

  • @CarlWinter-oy8uf
    @CarlWinter-oy8uf 7 місяців тому +1

    What on earth is ORANGE PEEL? Americans use this expression a lot ---must be in the paint ??

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  7 місяців тому

      It's when the paint dries with dimples like the peel of an orange. Often caused by applying too much paint in one go..

  • @SaultiBalldeip
    @SaultiBalldeip 2 роки тому +1

    This finish, IMO, is garbage.
    The can I bought was either defective or didn't release the hardener properly.
    Refinished my headlights and the finish crazed & was still soft 24 hours later.
    Waste of $30.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      Hmm. That doesn't sound right at all. I wonder of ot was a defective can. I've never seen this craze or not harden. What is cold out when you did it, or damp? I'm not really sure what would cause that. Maybe some contamination on the headlight? That must have been so annoying for you, I guess you have to replace the headlamp or we're you able to remove what you had sprayed?

    • @SaultiBalldeip
      @SaultiBalldeip 2 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons I sanded it all out up to 2000 then polished. Turned out OK.
      I usually spray lacquer on my guitars, not a poly fan but for headlights, UV resistant urethane is the way to go.

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I think it's probably aimed more at that market than guitars. I'm definitely using it more than nitro these days though.

  • @mightyh9032
    @mightyh9032 2 роки тому +2

    Spray Max contains isocyanites, extremely toxic and enters through your skin, respirstor and gloves don't do the trick here. Everyone likes a cool looking guitar, but don't risk your health over it. Be safe and use regular clear coat or leave it up to the pros!

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  2 роки тому

      I didn't realise the skin thing... thanks for sharing.

    • @cheechdubinsky6709
      @cheechdubinsky6709 Рік тому

      Just wear long sleeves, pants, & a respirator

    • @dokesz530
      @dokesz530 Місяць тому

      And how about ur eyes? That shit is really toxic.

  • @Grawrrr
    @Grawrrr 3 роки тому +2

    your not suppose to wear a mask, thats where the fun comes in. jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjk, kids dont listen to me

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      🤘🎸🤪

    • @mercury0214
      @mercury0214 3 роки тому +1

      This is nasty shit breathing in 2k once can cause issues for life

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому +1

      I do worry about my future health doing this job, by try to wear the correct ppe wherever needed and use an extractor.

    • @Grawrrr
      @Grawrrr 3 роки тому +1

      @@DevilAndSons btw, I been a little behind, Insomnium released a new single in March called "the conjurer" definitely a good one

    • @DevilAndSons
      @DevilAndSons  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the heads up. I'm finding that I'm mainly have the radio on these days instead of picking music, must change that.