BG3 - Minthara "nobody would remember me"

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  • @sn00k24
    @sn00k24 Рік тому +13666

    Feel awful cuz this is exactly what happened with my first playthrough, I thought she was just another boss.

    • @tuomoparkkinen216
      @tuomoparkkinen216 Рік тому +582

      exatly i didint even know about minthara, during act 2 i was thinking where i will see her and finally google her, oh damn and then there was this vid and i thought she realy was just another goblin leaders who needed to be killed

    • @legoolass3
      @legoolass3 Рік тому +1628

      Me too, but she is remembered by Shadowheart wearing Minthara's underwear.

    • @mr.lockwood1424
      @mr.lockwood1424 Рік тому +291

      @@legoolass3broooo 😂

    • @generalnawaki
      @generalnawaki Рік тому +533

      I know right, looted her body and theres an alchemy pouch, a back pack and some camp supplies. was like, wow this npc had a lot of useful stuff on her >.

    • @michasokoowski6651
      @michasokoowski6651 Рік тому +251

      I've killed her, looted her corpse and by looking at the fact that she just dropped clothing and bag of provisions i realised that she was recruitable... well, i went with it and kind of forgot about her xd

  • @herretik2287
    @herretik2287 Рік тому +9464

    "No! You can't just forgive a war criminal because of their sad backstory!"
    Minthara: 🥺

    • @Jyggalag
      @Jyggalag Рік тому +362

      She was literally mind controlled and as such her actions wouldn't have met the criteria of a crime. She even confronts you about joining the attack on the grove despite having free will at the end of act II.

    • @Infernal460
      @Infernal460 Рік тому +99

      Well @herretik2287 I don't forgive, because I don't care.
      The only thing I condemn her for is using goblins, sloppy.
      Should have used Drow or maybe a slightly lesser race such as humans.

    • @maxwellfujs6124
      @maxwellfujs6124 Рік тому +27

      (Essek)

    • @magatmilan8925
      @magatmilan8925 Рік тому +172

      ​@@Jyggalag​ She was a war criminal centuries before the Absolute was even a thing. And she doesn't confront you because she had a change of heart and is a good guy now. She'll approve if you say you only killed them to show off for her. That's pretty damn cold

    • @brettmcclain9289
      @brettmcclain9289 Рік тому +44

      USA state department:👉🤫👈

  • @NokoFace
    @NokoFace Рік тому +8598

    This hits hard, because it's true. I killed her my first playthrough, and when I was told "Minthara can be a follower" later, I genuinely asked "Who?"

    • @iLLya_
      @iLLya_ Рік тому +262

      Forgotten tossed aside her gods didn't even lift a finger to help her beat us

    • @meidunn
      @meidunn Рік тому +125

      I had the same reaction when the goblins in Moonrise go "It wasn't us, it was Minthara!" to Ketheric. I was like, "Who?". And then again when they were asked to be spared "For old times sake".

    • @IWasCaptainPanda
      @IWasCaptainPanda Рік тому +77

      This actually is what happened to her in my first run, too. I was sneaking through the goblin fortress (I didn't realize that the enemies wouldn't attack me on sight more or less), walk past her talking about how she was gonna murder all 'em Tieflings good, and whatnot, and Oath of Vengeance mode kicked in, and so anyway, I started blasting. Then was a little surprised because I knew the name and was like "wasn't this barely-a-speedbump miniboss supposed to be an important character?"

    • @joe_davola1085
      @joe_davola1085 Рік тому +4

      Even more of an incentive for another playthru!

    • @abyss1824
      @abyss1824 Рік тому

      Same lol

  • @VinAn-d8m
    @VinAn-d8m Рік тому +6890

    If you play as a redeemed Dark Urge, starting evil and becoming good by the end, Minthara is the best companion.

    • @gavinlopez6258
      @gavinlopez6258 Рік тому +226

      Gotta get that achievement though

    • @Faverolles
      @Faverolles  Рік тому +908

      I had her, Shadowheart, and Astarion for my redeemed durge playthrough. So many epic moments and character parallels, easily my favorite playthrough.

    • @Oscar-og6be
      @Oscar-og6be Рік тому +115

      Is redeemed durge a play through after a full evil run or can you do redeemed as a first/only durge run?

    • @MrHouse93
      @MrHouse93 Рік тому +304

      i mean i played a redeemed dark urge campaign. I still couldnt bring myself to doom the druid grove. To me it doesnt make sense even from an evil point of view. There has to be a better way to recruit her

    • @redgraves4030
      @redgraves4030 Рік тому +7

      ​@@gavinlopez6258what achievement?

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 Рік тому +1570

    "If you'd killed me, what would be my legacy?"
    "Well Astarion would be using your clothes as pyjamas..."

    • @lord_azatoth
      @lord_azatoth 11 місяців тому +17

      He still can exchange with her even when she is alive😊

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 11 місяців тому +10

      I always seem to give her armor to Wyll.

    • @deztructo123
      @deztructo123 10 місяців тому +10

      Shadowheart got her clothes for me and Astarion got her armour.

    • @Sr.Pirulito
      @Sr.Pirulito 9 місяців тому +3

      @@deztructo123 The boots go to Shadowheart too, the concentration advantage is pretty good to keep the bless up.

    • @beardiemom
      @beardiemom 8 місяців тому +1

      No, those are mine xD My drow just didn't look good in anything else.

  • @sparkymotive
    @sparkymotive Рік тому +915

    RIP Minthara; Survived by her camp clothes

    • @janisir4529
      @janisir4529 Рік тому +68

      Her memory will live on as my pyjamas.

    • @Wulk
      @Wulk 10 місяців тому +1

      Confiest underwear in game

    • @antonizajkowski9698
      @antonizajkowski9698 10 місяців тому +4

      Why do you guys use it as pyjamas? Is that an inside joke I'm supposed to be aware of?

    • @imwivstuipid
      @imwivstuipid 10 місяців тому +7

      @@antonizajkowski9698 they're pretty lewd

  • @nepoleon92
    @nepoleon92 11 місяців тому +33

    Minthara makes me realize this is what it’s like for every person you kill in video games. They could be so complex and have so many memories and emotions but they are just a block in your path so they are discarded.

  • @Spencer_Thatcher
    @Spencer_Thatcher Рік тому +2678

    I wish turning on "Non-lethal Damage" and just knocking her out at the battle of the grove allowed us to recruit her

    • @scorpiowarrior7841
      @scorpiowarrior7841 Рік тому +134

      Works if you use mods, but yeah.

    • @C4MG1RL
      @C4MG1RL Рік тому +368

      She was originally going to be recruitable while siding with the tieflings but they changed her to be only on evil playthroughs to compensate for the companions who leave and in the hopes it'd incentivize playing that way.

    • @bi_smth
      @bi_smth Рік тому +99

      @@scorpiowarrior7841 Quite the opposite actually. I used the Non-Lethal while playing the mod and it broke my play. Her "death" didn't register in the journal while her corpse vanished in smoke. Had to massacre the goblin camp all over again.

    • @ImPedofinderGeneral
      @ImPedofinderGeneral Рік тому +18

      @ULTRAOutdoorsman why not? It's option in current dnd if you use weapon which allows it

    • @MrLaz0rz
      @MrLaz0rz Рік тому +52

      You can get her while not killing the grove yourself; allowing you to keep karlach and wyll.
      Talk to her, plan the attack, sleep for a day to change the grove scenery and then (in my opinion) slaughter all of the goblins in the goblin camp for XP and loot, and then leave act 1.
      Once you come back you'll find the tiefling camp dead, and the goblins there hostile.
      Eventually she gets taken to the moonrise tower and imprisoned where you can then rescue her.

  • @itsgreenblackman
    @itsgreenblackman Рік тому +855

    Whats a real shame is that Minthara isnt given the same reverance as the other companions. Any fanart or even official art that involves all of the companions do not involve her. She is also not part of the clique the voive actors are part of outside of the game and on social media. She deserves the same praise they all got

    • @Ravagerblade
      @Ravagerblade Рік тому +129

      Definitely deserves origin status imo. Can't wait for my playthrough though

    • @vergil_vt
      @vergil_vt Рік тому +53

      0:34 says it all.

    • @omegagilgamesh
      @omegagilgamesh Рік тому +71

      Losing Wyll and Karlach in order to recruit her is a primary reason I probably never will.

    • @Ravagerblade
      @Ravagerblade Рік тому +7

      @@omegagilgamesh just ignore doing the raid

    • @omegagilgamesh
      @omegagilgamesh Рік тому +5

      @Ravagerblade I thought you could only recruit her by doing the raid.

  • @Magicwillnz
    @Magicwillnz Рік тому +721

    God, that is heart wrenching, that last line. Even the expression is great. "And no one would remember me."
    Such a complex character, so proud, so driven, but all that is stripped away and you realize the one thing she really wants is for someone to care that she's gone. The Gods she served certainly wouldn't, another tool disposed of.
    She sought respect and recognition, and realizes only now she went about it the completely wrong way.

    • @LastHCompany
      @LastHCompany Рік тому +21

      >"And no-one would remember me."
      And that's why I, a follower of Jergal, God of Finality and Fatalism, Senechal of the Damned, will not forget you. Can't be forgotten if your name is kept in a list by a god whose purpose is to track the dead.

    • @GrimsinMingzhi
      @GrimsinMingzhi Рік тому +2

      Womp Womp

    • @IrisGlowingBlue
      @IrisGlowingBlue Рік тому +2

      Beautifully said

    • @ryderbourque7582
      @ryderbourque7582 11 місяців тому

      right :(

  • @cianakril
    @cianakril Рік тому +2115

    Don't worry, Minthara, my character was remembering you till the end of the game, especially in the camp. Nice clothing you drop.

    • @odysseus9797
      @odysseus9797 Рік тому +86

      Lol , I'm using her camp clothing on my character too

    • @cianakril
      @cianakril Рік тому +15

      @@odysseus9797 my char is Paladin of Vengeance Drow, so I feel like I have recruited Minthara in a way.

    • @anxietydisorders5917
      @anxietydisorders5917 Рік тому +48

      i have her body stashed in the camp lol

    • @AB-wf2js
      @AB-wf2js Рік тому +2

      ​@@anxietydisorders5917Yoooo I thought I was the only one who did that. I only realised I could have her as a companion after I killed her and have had her body with me since

    • @goodbro2046
      @goodbro2046 Рік тому +4

      Let me guess, a male orc barbarian?

  • @pspublic13
    @pspublic13 Рік тому +571

    It's ok, Minthara. Even if most of us did not pick you, we will remember you as the one boss that should have been possible to convert away from the darkness.

    • @user-sonosada
      @user-sonosada Рік тому +6

      >Most of us
      Most of who? People with bad tastes?

    • @pspublic13
      @pspublic13 Рік тому +5

      @@user-sonosada Yes, most people have bad taste. I think that is true for most topics.

    • @SgM-1000
      @SgM-1000 Рік тому +1

      ​@@user-sonosadasorry, I can't alienate karlach and wyll, mainly karlach but wyll too

    • @evelynophelia
      @evelynophelia 11 місяців тому

      @@SgM-1000you don't have to anymore, larian made it so you can knock her out in the goblin camp and it still completes the "defeat the goblin leaders" quest

    • @CasabianN-xr5sc
      @CasabianN-xr5sc 11 місяців тому +1

      @@evelynophelia Yes, but Wyll, Karlach and Halsin don't acknowledge her existence once she joins the camp. In some cases Halsin even disappears once she is recruited. She was not meant to be recruited sadly.

  • @rezerade6410
    @rezerade6410 Рік тому +825

    I wanted to recruit her but didn't have the heart to betray the grove. So I picked her dead corpse and dropped her at camp right next to my bedroll so she can be with us. A happy ending.

    • @GrassPokeKing
      @GrassPokeKing Рік тому +148

      ... Hey, for no reason, are you a Dark Urge by any chance?

    • @MournBringer0
      @MournBringer0 Рік тому +56

      I put mine in a chest. Hoped to somehow res her later. But when reenter the camp her body lays in the middle of it and not in the fridge... I mean chest

    • @zaneykalip
      @zaneykalip Рік тому +11

      there a mod to avoid that betray it's call Daughter of Lolth improve everything about her like quest line bug fix etc.

    • @caindis-abel-dhisbrother9601
      @caindis-abel-dhisbrother9601 Рік тому

      You don't need to genocide the grove. All you need to do is not get involved at all. She ll fail and be in Moonrise. Just don't get involved.

    • @12SickOne34
      @12SickOne34 Рік тому +5

      Uhm... little confused but you got the spirit... I suppose

  • @Fuerto203
    @Fuerto203 Рік тому +3411

    It sucks because the bar for recruiting her is too high for me. Could never bring myself to killing the tieflings and alienating Karlach for the sake of recruiting Minthara.
    Edit: yes yes, I kmow Larian changed that now. This comment was made before the good playthrough Minthara patch. Y'all can stop telling me

    • @BibaMae-ut5qv
      @BibaMae-ut5qv Рік тому +442

      You can recruit her without killing the tieflings if you progress to the shadow lands without killing her and finishing the goblin camp quest, that way you can keep karlach and wyll, but it still locks you out of finishing karlachs quest and all the other tiefling related side quests, so still not quite worth it imo.

    • @brunobotelho4502
      @brunobotelho4502 Рік тому +359

      It makes no sense that she would say that cause to reach this point you had to be just like her by your own volition and simply aid the goblins to raze the entire grove just cause you're sadistic. I wish there was a way to recruit Minthara for a valid reason, like, something that you have to do that is brutal - like in ends justify the means kind of dillema, but not outright nonsensically evil.

    • @TheOptimistDelusion
      @TheOptimistDelusion Рік тому +329

      @@brunobotelho4502 I mean, technically the "valid reason" is that by razing the grove, you gain the cult's trust...but the choice is meaningless in the game since the cult still trusts you in act 2 anyway regardless of what you do. It would've made more narrative sense if all the cultists instantly turned hostile from then on if you helped the grove. That way good playthroughs would get Last Light Inn as the main hub and bad playthroughs would get Moonrise

    • @brunobotelho4502
      @brunobotelho4502 Рік тому

      @@TheOptimistDelusion I agree with you. But for that to work they should really highlight this dynamic. Like, someone saying that if you kill the grove they will become necessary sacrifices for your objective. But here's the beef I still have: during the goblin camp your object is still just to find a cure, it's not 'stop the absolute and a vilanous plot of deities to conquer the world and other D&D nonsenses' yet. So to kill dozens of innocents so you have a shot of finding a cure after infiltrating like james bond on a cult located on the middle of not-literal hell... its still a stretch to me.

    • @PBRatLord
      @PBRatLord Рік тому +56

      ​@brunobotelho4502 yeah, I really wish that there was a non lethal route like that goblin boss at the windmill who stops the fight cause he's scared lol. Beat her down and then have checks to beat to win her over, or have her gain her freedom from the Absolute only to take her own life as she feels the power consuming her once more if you fail

  • @cass7448
    @cass7448 Рік тому +313

    Me, who murdered everything inside the goblin camp without speaking to anyone: "Minth-who?"

    • @crazybone0311
      @crazybone0311 Рік тому +6

      Its minthk . You just lost the best hamster piloted ranger:)

    • @Jurgir09
      @Jurgir09 Рік тому

      L and cringe. Teethling lover 🦷

    • @casulskrrub6423
      @casulskrrub6423 9 місяців тому +1

      @@crazybone0311 Mike Tython playthrough confirmed?

  • @martron7
    @martron7 Рік тому +119

    What a fantastic piece of voice work. Came in blind, and walked away shaken.

  • @commandershepard5450
    @commandershepard5450 2 місяці тому +5

    It’s this perfect combo of strong, ruthless, yet deep and delicate that makes her such a compelling character

  • @AndyMacster
    @AndyMacster Рік тому +30

    Her actor is such an incredible talent. What a diamond hidden in the rough she is for any player willing to play to have her in their party

  • @moblinmajorgeneral
    @moblinmajorgeneral Рік тому +1274

    I feel bad, but she was going to genocide the tieflings and druids at the grove and kill Halsin. I'm sorry, but I can't do that to my mans.

    • @TheImaggine
      @TheImaggine Рік тому +145

      I wish in the next updates to dedicate a bit more to allow players to get her without going for the bad route

    • @theshadowling1
      @theshadowling1 Рік тому +51

      @@TheImaggine Maybe if you trick her into leaving the goblin fort, and then defeat her in the defence, you get the option to send her fleeing, instead of killing her.

    • @popkhorne5372
      @popkhorne5372 Рік тому +58

      ​@@TheImagginething is, there is no real bad route. You only loose content by raiding the grove. Aside from minthara.

    • @doctordoom85
      @doctordoom85 Рік тому +24

      I read on gamefaqs that one person discovered how to save the tieflings/grove, recruit her, and not have any party members leave. I know you had to kill Wyll and (?) Shadowheart and then revive them after this whole process, and a bunch of other things timed in a certain way. I’m sure there’s a video or two by now out there showing how it’s done.

    • @guest426
      @guest426 Рік тому +20

      But the genocide of the goblins is cool because they aren't so cute?

  • @foxplay1015
    @foxplay1015 10 місяців тому +8

    I think Minthara is the best (or at least my favorite) companion because she is literally definition of "Boss as a playable character" but better

  • @CasabianN-xr5sc
    @CasabianN-xr5sc 11 місяців тому +10

    I wish Halsin would react to her presence once she is recruited. It still doesn't feel official when she joins the party.
    4-5 sentence dialogue to choose which one to keep or even better-Have them both.

  • @Kyrkby
    @Kyrkby Рік тому +31

    Holy shit the voice actors did such a good job in this game.

  • @XarkoCZ
    @XarkoCZ Рік тому +536

    Developers should really add an option to capture Minthara if you bait her to druid grove and side with defenders. Those who played the evil playthrough know she's quite a different person once she spends some time near you under the protection of the artefact. She could then easily see the Absolute as an enemy and join your party.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 Рік тому

      She's still a drow. Screw her 🤷‍♂

    • @PH03NIX96
      @PH03NIX96 Рік тому +10

      Yep, unfortunately we'll probably never get that option.

    • @nikollasassumpcao8006
      @nikollasassumpcao8006 Рік тому +41

      I dont agree. The hard choice you make to be able to recruit her is the first stepping stone in your evil playthrough, being able to recruit her anyway would, in my opinion, deminish the weight of that choice.

    • @luiousy7329
      @luiousy7329 Рік тому +9

      The fact you have to game the system to unlock her is just insane. Thank god Regill came free in WOTR

    • @marksmithjr1414
      @marksmithjr1414 Рік тому +65

      @@nikollasassumpcao8006 The issue is all the content you lose to gain her has nothing to match it. You lose 2 questlines in Wyll and Karlach with a possibly third in Gale if you can't convince him to stay. You lose all the content that the tieflings give you in both act 1 and act 2. You lose a bunch of items that have no counterpart. You lose to much with only gaining a single companion and her questline, that is still bugged might I add.
      If Larian refuses to add evil counterparts to what we lose, I think its fair that we should recruit her and turn her against the cult of the absolute.

  • @lukajovanovic8923
    @lukajovanovic8923 10 місяців тому +3

    Minthara is my absolute Sweetheart. Not just her smites make me smile every day. The veeeeery hard shell, with the very soft soul once you broke her ❤

  • @ffaustus2651
    @ffaustus2651 Рік тому +30

    I absolutely love how emotive and expressive the characters are in this game

  • @darkmetal2412
    @darkmetal2412 8 місяців тому +8

    Minthara is an unredeemable awful person.
    Minthara: 'Sad puppy face'
    Goddamnit. I forgive you

  • @sentient9478
    @sentient9478 Рік тому +9

    This video needs not only more views, but more likes.
    This is a stellar example of the absolutely phenomenal work Larian Studios has delivered to all of us.

  • @cooldude117007
    @cooldude117007 Рік тому +90

    Can never get enough minthara videos. The best character. So much depth to her personality and opinions. It’s so difficult for me to kill her on subsequent playthroughs because I love her so much. Minthara is bae

    • @scorpiowarrior7841
      @scorpiowarrior7841 Рік тому +2

      I'm probally gonna start skipping the drow camp or probally install Daughter of Loth

    • @peters8512
      @peters8512 Рік тому +9

      The voice acting is really brilliant. The feeling in this delivery is just so... damn.

    • @GHOST5800000
      @GHOST5800000 Рік тому +5

      @@scorpiowarrior7841 I jus skip saving the grove now, I kill the other 2 leaders Gut n Ragzlin n I leave minthara, no halsin but idc lmfao Minthara Mommy better

    • @Fucisko
      @Fucisko Рік тому

      @@GHOST5800000 I always kill Gut, but doesn't killing Ragzlin make the whole goblin camp including Minthara hostile to you?

    • @ElysiumKeeper
      @ElysiumKeeper 10 місяців тому

      @@scorpiowarrior7841Which drow camp???? which reality are you from, I want in, I want Menzoberranzan DLC & we don't have that in here.... :(

  • @Gahndi007
    @Gahndi007 Рік тому +478

    I know people want to recruit her while playing strictly good, but her redemption from evil mirroring your own is what makes her character. I think it’s great, and adds a lot to the character

    • @TheKillaShow
      @TheKillaShow Рік тому

      She isnt redeemed. Shes still a drow who will eradicate anyone who gets in her way. Shes just no longer mind controlled.

    • @Veridiano02
      @Veridiano02 Рік тому +27

      Maybe, but it makes little sense that you manage to knock her out (something you can do) and somehow she dies anyway, because of lol. Well, maybe because of Lolth.

    • @zer0stars
      @zer0stars Рік тому +18

      Well, a lot of people (including myself) don't have the stomach to do kill the tieflings. So most of the time, she just becomes wasted content. Also, even then, she's apparently broken half of the time.

    • @M0DIDDLY
      @M0DIDDLY Рік тому +59

      My major complaint is that the evil path just doesn't make sense. You know you are infected with a tadpole, you know the tadpole is connected to the goblin camp and true souls, and you know they want to take the prism which will enslave you early on in act 1. So the evil path is just "I should help the people who want to enslave me, to enslave me", and that's the only way to get Minthara. That on top of the fact that you either lose 3 other companions to get 1, or you skip an entire quest line in act 1 to kinda bug the game out to get her, and you still lose a companion, and a quest line in act 2.

    • @thepapavulture8322
      @thepapavulture8322 Рік тому +33

      Except the fact that the evil path has a remarkable lack of content that is notmade up for by just Minthara

  • @Robertward111
    @Robertward111 11 місяців тому +9

    Holy shit Minthara...

  • @dragoredrox7493
    @dragoredrox7493 Рік тому +132

    I do find it weird that you can manipulate Nere after you rescue him into a abandoning the absolute but there's nothing you can do for Mintharu in the same vein

    • @calronkeltaran493
      @calronkeltaran493 Рік тому +18

      and then nere just leaves instead of getting the option to recruit him. would be nice for an evil run.
      but yes it also begs to question how long does it take for the artefact to take hold over the absolute. so with minthara, one talk is obviously not enough. the game also prob just expects you to not stay around long enough until the party at your camp. with nere, he mentions it after the fight. so i prob doesn't take that long at all. maybe it is an instant effect but the absolute prob doesn't talk to them for every waking moment. so if the voice is silent for a view minutes, they wont bother but when it is happening for a little longer, they start to question things. this would bring it in line, both for minthara and for nere and why every true soul doesn't question their life choices just because you talk to them for 5min

    • @kittydaddy2023
      @kittydaddy2023 Рік тому

      never got intimate with Nere, but for a while there Minthara thought my penis silenced the Absolute

    • @Alpha1598753
      @Alpha1598753 Рік тому +1

      Nere reverts to Lolth worship, but apostasy is punished by death so either his people kills him or the Absolute will order it
      He doesn't just defect but face his fate

  • @nsmiguel99
    @nsmiguel99 Рік тому +6

    Playing as the Dark Urge brought me so much Satisfaction, by far. It’s despicable having to play the hero it was nice to be able to just cause absolute carnage.

    • @thunder2753
      @thunder2753 Рік тому

      By chance which build did u go as Dark Urge?

    • @nsmiguel99
      @nsmiguel99 Рік тому

      @@thunder2753 Half Orc Barbarian and subclassed into fighter.

  • @DerKirschemann
    @DerKirschemann Рік тому +52

    I’m sorry, I got sad when I saw this clip and downloaded that mod where she flees when she fights you at either boss fight and stays in the story. Minthara deserves a redemption arc.

  • @HulkVahkiin
    @HulkVahkiin Рік тому +13

    0:34 this is surprisingly deep as it is very true. Most would have just killed her in their first playthrough as she was just another boss to take out. But when you find out not only can you recruit her, but she actually has layers to her character...damn.

  • @65firered
    @65firered Рік тому +31

    She never survived my encounters with her... So this is new to me.

  • @justsomeguy9073
    @justsomeguy9073 4 місяці тому +4

    For someone who is so confident and commanding, she has the saddest puppy eyes.

  • @jfrizzell6645
    @jfrizzell6645 10 місяців тому +3

    I just LOVE Minthara more and more!

  • @stephenpuisis632
    @stephenpuisis632 9 місяців тому +5

    minthata: 'no one would miss me'
    Tav: 'thats not true; I would'

  • @elandilaurelius4849
    @elandilaurelius4849 Рік тому +105

    Larian... Why do I have to commit genocide against innocent people to save her?

    • @oddbychoice6105
      @oddbychoice6105 Рік тому +28

      For the glory of The Absolute, of course!

    • @unclepaulie4233
      @unclepaulie4233 Рік тому +7

      I like it this way. It sucks, but it mirrors real life. No matter what you do or how hard you try, you can never make all the people happy all the time. There are always choices and sacrifices we have to make. There is no "perfect"

    • @iLLya_
      @iLLya_ Рік тому +2

      ​@@oddbychoice6105a flying brain bro?

    • @francois9018
      @francois9018 Рік тому +3

      I still think Larian missed the mark when they gave us the option to knock people out, yet treats it like we killed them.
      Like imagine knocking everyone out, ending up having either that much more ennemies coming back later on or some of them becoming friends.
      The real offset is that knocking people out doesn't reward you xp or at least halves the rewards for it.
      I'd see that as I great way to spare minthara and save the grove. Having her genuine emotions of feeling betrayed by the cult and actually grateful for the opportunity you gave her.

    • @yosawin3018
      @yosawin3018 Рік тому

      ​@@francois9018I agree, We can knock out certain someone in act 3 and they would join you as companion. It's not implement for this drow though.
      And to raid the groove while she's on mind control only to get really conflicted at what she did really sucks.

  • @joaopaulol.189
    @joaopaulol.189 Рік тому +17

    Noooooo i would remember you Minthara i promise, not the puppy eyes 😭😭😭

  • @basbarbeque6718
    @basbarbeque6718 Рік тому +136

    Worst thing is, she's not exactly wrong.
    I've seen plenty of reddit posts or facebook comments from people who didn't know she was recruitable.
    If it wasn't for forums like Reddit where information like that is easily shared, plenty of people would've played through the entire game not knowing she was anything other than just a minor boss enemy.
    Hell, if it wasn't for the fanwiki or reddit I would've forgotten her name completely before I even left the Goblin stronghold.

    • @ClassyPandaOfficial
      @ClassyPandaOfficial Рік тому +3

      Yeah I killed her thinking she was just a regular boss, then when I was looting I was like "wait.... what's with all this clothes.. OOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhh oh nooo..." She'll be remembered as the optional companion I killed

    • @JudeFergy
      @JudeFergy Рік тому +2

      The fact she has ingredients and camp supply bags on her corpse should clue people in, though

    • @bobfishtheblobfish3619
      @bobfishtheblobfish3619 Рік тому

      @@JudeFergy "no one would remember me"

  • @t.c.8405
    @t.c.8405 5 місяців тому +3

    Mini & Lae-Lae, best thug duo for the House of Hope fight...you know the one, with the unique soundtrack

  • @the_dropbear4392
    @the_dropbear4392 Рік тому +39

    Strange how you can only recruit her by commiting a horrific action, one that she herself doesn'y agree with. Surly once free of the control she should be like yo wtf did you do that for.

    • @tropicturtle9021
      @tropicturtle9021 Рік тому +13

      If I recall, she does eventually ask you why you did it.

    • @fbskxnwkdnworkir
      @fbskxnwkdnworkir Рік тому +3

      It's not even that bad of an action, not like they were real people anyway

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 Рік тому +2

      You can also recruit her by just ignoring her.

    • @elijah4621
      @elijah4621 Рік тому

      @@fbskxnwkdnworkirhuh?????

    • @derekskelton4187
      @derekskelton4187 Рік тому +1

      Be careful not to cut yourself on all that edge@@fbskxnwkdnworkir

  • @ianvarney2112
    @ianvarney2112 Рік тому +7

    When she gives those sad puppydrow eyes: 🥺🥺🥺

  • @ImFangzBro
    @ImFangzBro 3 місяці тому +3

    "I mean, I would remember you. Even if I HAD killed you, you're a Paladin. You have quite the force of personality."

  • @solid_squall8917
    @solid_squall8917 2 місяці тому +3

    My queen

  • @bi_smth
    @bi_smth Рік тому +158

    I get why not being able to recruit Minthara in a "good" play is important... but damn I just want ONE PIECE of content where I can have ALL TEN COMPANIONS in the same picture. I can't even find one goddamn fan art

    • @thebigmara9672
      @thebigmara9672 Рік тому +18

      one piece?!?!

    • @rookierook99
      @rookierook99 Рік тому +1

      your only recourse to getting all companions is through a mod that allows you to recruit Minthara after you knock her out in Act 1

    • @Magnet_Chaos
      @Magnet_Chaos Рік тому +19

      ​@@thebigmara9672 In this case, the One Piece isn't real. :(

    • @bi_smth
      @bi_smth Рік тому +1

      @@rookierook99 tried it in one run, she was unusable in Act 3. the mod is updated now but im taking a break from the game. might try it again tho when other interesting mods and hidden gameplay come up.

    • @zer0stars
      @zer0stars Рік тому +2

      @@Magnet_Chaos So we can't get much higher? :C

  • @Sideway8
    @Sideway8 Рік тому +18

    She not wrong, I killed her without hesitation in my first playthrough and wasn't even aware you could make her a companion until I read about it later - although
    I did wonder at the time why she was _the only person_ I'd killed to have "camp clothes and underwear" as loot lol

  • @Sleck06
    @Sleck06 10 місяців тому +4

    We remember you Minthara!

  • @1992marigold
    @1992marigold Рік тому +7

    This voice actor is not getting enough love. All those indepth interviews of the other comapnions and I can't find anything with Emma Gregory.

  • @JSTRonline2
    @JSTRonline2 11 місяців тому +5

    Bro when she was knocked out at my feet I just finished her off like nothing. Then i found out she could be a follower and saw those puppy dog eyes I restarted to an earlier save. I wasn't far after that so it wasn't a big deal.

  • @NocturnalExstacy
    @NocturnalExstacy 11 місяців тому +2

    I always just snap the bridge she walks across and never look back after she drops into the pit

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 3 місяці тому +4

    I would die for this woman...

  • @ayoubmorjane7722
    @ayoubmorjane7722 11 місяців тому +2

    She was Leandra in divinity original sin 1, that voice i can't forget

  • @TOXA721
    @TOXA721 11 місяців тому +3

    That's video the reason why i played 14 hours again (was 23 hours near act 2) to recruit Minthara and Halsing

  • @v3rr
    @v3rr Рік тому +2

    I'm happy that developers added a possibility to recruit her while saving druids, cause no matter how many times i tried to do an evil run I'm dropping it around start of the act 2.

  • @ninethreefivesix
    @ninethreefivesix 9 місяців тому +3

    She's one of the best characters in the game. Only thing that holds her back is the lack of content.

    • @zombieoverlord5173
      @zombieoverlord5173 8 місяців тому

      True. As a Minthara Stan she is missing a lot of content. There's not really anything for her to do in Act 3 if you're not Romancing her as Durge

  • @madlarkin8
    @madlarkin8 Рік тому +9

    This drow can talk? And be a companion? I eldritch blasted her in the face so fast I didnt even know she had voice lines.

    • @edwardbaker1451
      @edwardbaker1451 Рік тому +1

      I killed her and made Shadowheart wear wear her undergarments

    • @filipenunes4833
      @filipenunes4833 2 місяці тому

      Average warlock player being retarded

    • @filipenunes4833
      @filipenunes4833 12 днів тому

      POV: you have brain damage

  • @superbad8008
    @superbad8008 Рік тому +11

    Pretty cool to see dialogue I’ll never get. I don’t like playing evil characters, so it is ordained that she is getting sent to the shadow realm every playthrough, usually via Lump and his Goons.

    • @filipenunes4833
      @filipenunes4833 12 днів тому

      POV: you have brain damage

    • @superbad8008
      @superbad8008 12 днів тому

      @ I don’t know why, but I’ve got this crazy thought that you’re a Minthara enjoyer. Can’t tell if it’s just a hunch or my traumatic brain damage acting up again 🧐

    • @filipenunes4833
      @filipenunes4833 11 днів тому

      @ I'm more of a Minthara worshipper tbh

  • @MastaBroshiX
    @MastaBroshiX 11 місяців тому +3

    Minthy is with me every playthrough 🫡

  • @IneffableChild
    @IneffableChild 9 місяців тому +4

    Okay, this was the video that convinced me to get Minthara as a companion. But I don't want to kill the tieflings, so I guess I'll just knock her out and see where my next playthrough goes 😅

  • @BIGESTblade
    @BIGESTblade Рік тому +25

    Being away from Menzoberanzan actually did her good. Rare for Lolth clerics.

    • @dudea3378
      @dudea3378 6 місяців тому

      She a Paladin, of Vengeance

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade 6 місяців тому

      @@dudea3378 Dude. All noble drow women are raised to be clerics. She is only a paladin because she's no longer there.

    • @filipenunes4833
      @filipenunes4833 12 днів тому

      @@BIGESTblade Minthara said she swore her original oath to punish the enemies of Lolth. She was never a Cleric. Damn wokes.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade 12 днів тому

      @@filipenunes4833 She may not be one anymore, but she definitely was in Menzoberanzan. All drow women are raised to be clerics because the number of high priestesses within the house directly impacts standing of the house within the city.

  • @drebear2638
    @drebear2638 Рік тому +7

    The way she said might have actually broken my heart 😢

  • @JohnnyNova
    @JohnnyNova Рік тому +1

    Finally recruited her on a good playthrough and now this hits harder

  • @beachmaster3486
    @beachmaster3486 Рік тому +11

    I'd kill everyone for Minthara. Karlach tugged at my heartstrings in the first playhtrough so I thought I'd try to bring her along and "save" her again, but she wouldn't have it after I levelled the grove. Gale only came along because I won a dice roll I had with him. Shadowshart and Lae'zel doesn't mind, and Minthara has some nice words for both of them. I never understood what people meant when they "waifu" a character, until I met Minthara.

  • @ambds1975
    @ambds1975 11 місяців тому +2

    Lady we remembered you so hard we got the devs to let us redeem you.

  • @Hevenlee
    @Hevenlee 11 місяців тому +5

    I really can't bring myself to hate any Drow in the DnD setting after learning about their history, they are so fucked thanks to Lolth its insane.

  • @rezthemediaruler3768
    @rezthemediaruler3768 11 місяців тому +3

    Another plus point for Minthara is, that she knows exactly that Lolth is just as bad as Bhaal and the Absolute.
    Not many Drow would say that openly besides her and Drizzt.

  • @DavismTXAG98
    @DavismTXAG98 Рік тому +7

    This dialogue is one of my favorite sequences in the game. And it is because it hits hard as a player - though objectively it has less character-level impact. As the player, you know how many times you've just mowed her down and if you plan to play multiple characters, how many times you'll be mowing her down in the future. But for this character, this play through -- you got me Minthara, you got me. I see you.

  • @UnicornSkunk
    @UnicornSkunk Рік тому +5

    Minthara's voice actress is so good

  • @diazostreta4473
    @diazostreta4473 Рік тому +2

    Dunno, killed the entire village for her, still didn't get her, reloaded my save, got her. Dommy mommy supreme

  • @EM-Night-Rain
    @EM-Night-Rain Рік тому +6

    It hurts cause I know soo many people just killed her like any other boss. I always recruit her from Moonrise, ever since my first playthrough. Minthara deserves better, I really wish Larian would have a path for us to save her and the Tieflings.

  • @janisir4529
    @janisir4529 Рік тому +1

    Mistakes were made, I didn't even get out of act 1, and I already want to replay this game...

  • @Frostman411
    @Frostman411 Рік тому +55

    Minthara will just never be worth losing Wyll, Karlach, and Halsin for. Hope one day they make a version of the game where you can scare her off to moonrise instead of killing her.

    • @salty_boi2505
      @salty_boi2505 Рік тому

      theres a mod for it already, "Minthara good recruitment" but imo I have never used Wyll,Karlach or Halsin nor done their story (ive only done 2 playthroughs so far) so she is worth it to me.

    • @hunivan7672
      @hunivan7672 Рік тому +9

      So the boring warlock, the overhyped tiefling and the cringe druid wont be with me? Oh no.

    • @iLLya_
      @iLLya_ Рік тому +37

      ​@@hunivan7672I get the boring warlock and cringe druid but overhyped tiefling bro?

    • @dychostarr
      @dychostarr Рік тому +11

      ​@iLLya_ some people wanna feel cool is all.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 Рік тому

      Karlach isn't overhyped.@@hunivan7672

  • @Flameinshadow
    @Flameinshadow 10 місяців тому +2

    Ngl She was the first victim of the the Tav / Karlach dual monk wombo combo jumping.

  • @smoke600k
    @smoke600k Рік тому +8

    minthara was the companion i was always closest to, she never left my party. throught my whole urge playthough i swayed here and there with what to do, she always had something interesting to say and it always felt like she was wondering with me. she was the only one to actually fully stand by me and bhaal when i decided to go in that direction, the only one who saw something and understood the lust for power every creature has, even in a dark journey she was the one who made me feel not alone in darkness. i didn't expect much at first, but dear minthara ended up being my favorite character. drow bros for life

  • @ates423
    @ates423 Рік тому +97

    Minthara is amazing, when you get to the elder brain and finally defeat it, she’s like “do it my love! This is what we’ve been working towards, take the world into your hands. Let us conquer and dominate.” Something like that.
    Everybody else is nowhere near as supportive as her towards world domination.

    • @CatroiOz
      @CatroiOz Рік тому +25

      Astarion is 100% behind it too ! "We could do it you know ? Rule the world together !"

    • @Behemothius
      @Behemothius Рік тому +8

      Her reactions and facial expressions when she urges Astarion to become Vampire Ascendant are just golden. Her voice acting and expressions are simply amazing.

    • @adex5941
      @adex5941 Рік тому

      Agree she is ride or die

  • @hjelsethak
    @hjelsethak 10 місяців тому +3

    "And nobody would remember me." So sad...

  • @Tarfyen2
    @Tarfyen2 Рік тому +3

    The trembling in her voice when she says that makes me tear up.

  • @sh_i_ro
    @sh_i_ro 10 місяців тому +6

    SHE SHOULD BE AN ORIGIN CHARACTER

  • @SpawnedInTheHades
    @SpawnedInTheHades Рік тому +1

    That last line is like a punch in the gut no matter how many times I watch this.

  • @filip.s3280
    @filip.s3280 Рік тому +8

    Emma Gregory is such a good voice actress!

  • @locatabor3682
    @locatabor3682 Рік тому +2

    Ok youtube, you won, you keep recommending Minthara, I will re play the game and save her this time.

  • @MarK0-D4c
    @MarK0-D4c Рік тому +64

    Larian, MUST give us another way to recruit her. She is a very deep character.

    • @ThatTCG
      @ThatTCG Рік тому +3

      No. You have no idea she was enslaved until later. Good side only sees her as evil. There's no reason to not kill her if you are good unless you're metagaming.

    • @Stingrea51
      @Stingrea51 Рік тому

      I am hopeful for this also, I want her on my team so bad but I also am worried a mod to get here there might break later game content

    • @MarK0-D4c
      @MarK0-D4c Рік тому +8

      @@ThatTCG The game not only convinces you but push you to kill her regardless. I understand that she's mean to be additional content for evil or new playthroughs, but danm, the price to pay is too high.

    • @Olter_
      @Olter_ Рік тому +16

      @@ThatTCG
      So good characters summarily execute people?
      You should have a way of capturing her for example, in the same way auntie ethel pleads for her life at the end of her questline
      I honestly see no good reason why you couldn't redeem her without the druid massacre.

    • @albertwesker828
      @albertwesker828 Рік тому +2

      You already sacrifice a shitton of characters for the evil path, and people wanna make the most rewarding aspect (Minthara) non-exclusive?
      There would be no reason to play the evil path if Larian "added" this.

  • @F1lip3JF
    @F1lip3JF Рік тому +1

    Wow, the audio in this video is phenomenal. Wish it was like that ingame.

    • @Faverolles
      @Faverolles  Рік тому +1

      This is how it sounds for me in-game. I had voice and commentary at 100%, music at 40%, and all the rest at 30%.

  • @GrimoireOfAlice
    @GrimoireOfAlice Рік тому +4

    A self-reflection that only took the murder of countless innocent Tieflings and Druids... Totally worth it.

  • @TenmaStupidity
    @TenmaStupidity 10 місяців тому +1

    We will all remember you Minthara.....you are just too fun....

  • @Witch_of_the_Hedge
    @Witch_of_the_Hedge Рік тому +14

    Honestly the more I see of her, the more I like it but for the love of everything that is rpg I can't make myself to go the route to recruit her.

  • @VeganStories
    @VeganStories Рік тому +1

    I do love the update, as I have Karlach, Minthara, Wyll, and Halsin at my camp. Her role in act 2 is quite satisfying, especially if you’ve got her in your party at the end of the boss fight of act 2

  • @LG-jn5fx
    @LG-jn5fx Рік тому +7

    To all of the Minthara simps who want her as a companion and want to be good then here is how.
    Save Sazza and then talk to Minthara. Agree to attack the Grove and then never go back to the Grove. When you get to Moonlight Towers you can recruit her as if you had burned the Grove to the ground.

  • @Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia
    @Emperor_Mateus_of_Palamecia 8 місяців тому +2

    Say it with me everyone.
    I! CAN! FIX! HER!

  • @allthatisandeverwas
    @allthatisandeverwas Рік тому +28

    So here’s a thought: if she shows up in Act 2 even if you skip the goblin camp, what if you went the Lae’zel route, and beelined it to the mountain pass after talking to Zorru without involving yourself in the Grove’s problems? In that sense, you’re not being evil, just practical: you’ve got a mindflayer parasite in your head and this gith claims to have a cure, but you need to act fast before you turn. Sure, you’d miss out on a lot of content, but it does seem to be an intended path.

    • @nikollasassumpcao8006
      @nikollasassumpcao8006 Рік тому +1

      Yep, but i think if you do that, the raid happens anyway, and probably karlach and wyll will be pissed that you chose to not help the grove and might even leave the party (i didnt try what you said yet, im just theory crafting) and minthara would still show up in act 2 like before, but since you did not met her, i dont know if you would be able to recruit her

    • @mari-anne
      @mari-anne Рік тому +19

      @@nikollasassumpcao8006 wyll and karlach only leave when you directly attack the grove. if you ignore the goblin/grove quest and do other side stuff and then go to moonrise, you get to keep wyll and karlach and recruit minthara. all 3 have lines to say about each other so it's def not a glitch. the only one you lose is halsin

  • @-leezha-
    @-leezha- Рік тому +2

    I am so glad I don't have to be full on mass murderer of refugees to get her now. I just can't murk the Grove. No matter the playthrough. I appreciate the fact that I had to miss out on her due to my choices, but I'm glad I don't have to miss out anymore

  • @estanka
    @estanka Рік тому +15

    Im sad that i was attacked by her after killing the other 2 guys. Didnt even get the chance to talk.
    I even saved her for last because she somehow seemed more dangerous of the lot.

    • @crazybone0311
      @crazybone0311 Рік тому +4

      If u beat the raising corpse goblin, the whole camp will fight you.

  • @callmecalamity
    @callmecalamity Рік тому +1

    The fact that minthara not only gets loose from the grip of the absolute but also lolth. It makes me happy she really learned about her current situation after being saved from the tadpoles influence

  • @annmeyfaylinn2015
    @annmeyfaylinn2015 Рік тому +3

    Самый лучший компаньон. Верная, надежная, сильная и, по сути, беззлобная, хоть и пытается таковой не казаться. Еслиб еще и маниакальной жажды власти не было... Но, совершенство в изъянах, я полагаю.

    • @aumtehotep
      @aumtehotep 7 місяців тому

      И мудрая.
      Лучшая.
      Надо чтобы разрабы в конце её этой речи добавили возможность дать ей то, в чем она нуждается в этот момент. Теплые объятия и поцелуй. And an option to simply say to her: I love you, my Minthara...

  • @DonkThikkness
    @DonkThikkness 11 місяців тому +2

    I’m looking forward to saving her in my second playthrough. Her redemption arc looks pretty good.

  • @bombomos
    @bombomos Рік тому +4

    There should be an option to "lead" the goblin attack. But then everyone helps you ambush her. Then she joins your party after you kill all the goblins. Or something along those lines

  • @chrisjulien7698
    @chrisjulien7698 Рік тому

    Christ bless you, the voice acting is amazing ngl

  • @bowshattersg7776
    @bowshattersg7776 Рік тому +97

    Given how much content and magic items you lose by siding with the goblins or ignoring the raid, the ideal way to experience Minthara is via that mod that lets you recruit her even by siding with tieflings. There should be alternate counterparts or replacements to NPCs and merchants so you don't fall behind on the power curve just because you want to see alternate story routes.

    • @aydinbiber7616
      @aydinbiber7616 Рік тому +20

      Awful take. There should be consequences to slaughtering 2 large groups of people and siding with a faction that's against every other faction.
      If you don't like the consequences of romancing Minthara, then don't.

    • @Nikioko
      @Nikioko Рік тому +3

      The game is intended that you either side with the tieflings and the druids, or with Minthara and the goblins. There is no royal road to solve this. Therefore, I am sceptical about such mods.

    • @judostar11
      @judostar11 Рік тому +4

      There kind of are some alternate merchants and ways to get things. If you side with the goblins, the temple will have a goblin merchant just chilling there that's kind of a replacement for Aaron (druid grove merchant). For a merchant like Dammon, Brem in the Zhent hideout sells roughly the same gear if you helped them out. For the portent robes that you would have got from Alfira in Act 2, you can buy it from Talli (iirc). That said, I do know what you mean. I wish we could gaslight Minthara or help the tieflings escape before raiding the grove. I also wish there was a replacement for Dammon if he dies in Act 2 since that's when he's the most likely to die.
      EDIT: You cannot get the potent robe from Talli in last light inn. It's a mod that does. The place where I got the info was wrong.

    • @DesideriusTheSerious
      @DesideriusTheSerious Рік тому +30

      The empty headed players in the comments fail to see that the game design doesn't encourage you enough to side with the goblins. You lose way more than you gain, one companion for loss of traders and other companions. You don't get any achievement for doing so, while the "good" route basically has an achievement that can be completed via various deeds throughout the acts.
      You can ignore such inconvenience but feeling how you can literally alter Astarion's nature and plan in the amalgamation of his storyline I don't see why would they make Minthara any different, especially when the player character can literally convince far greater characters to side with them.

    • @bowshattersg7776
      @bowshattersg7776 Рік тому +26

      @@aydinbiber7616 This is a video game, not real life. Consequences and reactivity are great but when a story path has much less content than the clearly intended path of saving the tieflings, there's not much reason to do that. No NPCs other than Minthara follow you past Act 1 if you side with the goblins.