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  • @nobuffer101
    @nobuffer101 Рік тому +1227

    Minthara: _*carefully dissects and analyzes each and every companion's personality_
    Tav: "What about Gale?"
    Minthara: "What *_about_* the stereotypical mage?"

    • @nathangordon4891
      @nathangordon4891 11 місяців тому +68

      ‘What about Gale?’
      ‘Who?’

    • @marcinzysko1653
      @marcinzysko1653 11 місяців тому +30

      she went full meme on gale

    • @alexhb7949
      @alexhb7949 10 місяців тому +38

      She justified bringing up her stereotype by mentioning the fact that gale actually does fit in the criteria

    • @sharpasacueball
      @sharpasacueball 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@alexhb7949Yeah I swear Gale is a magnet for enemies and basically dies in every fight that's harder than average.

    • @alexhb7949
      @alexhb7949 9 місяців тому +3

      @@sharpasacueball that's cause the AI knows to take out the heavy hitters first

  • @gerstein03
    @gerstein03 Рік тому +1385

    I love how she's roasting the shit out of the others in a way that's completely devoid of malice. She's just being completely straight up and honest

    • @Badbentham
      @Badbentham Рік тому +86

      At first, I thought she would just be Neutral Evil. While she in fact, as a Vengeance Paladin, incorporates the very best of Lawful Evil: Just, straight-forward, filled with determination. And, of course, power-hungry and completely ruthless.

    • @ralk7048
      @ralk7048 Рік тому +77

      I think she's the proper Lawful Evil character power fantasy.
      The charismatic villain leader with a grand plan of domination, who plans to rule with power, influence, violence and fear. She's clearly thought it through too, with her own code of honour and strong convictions. She doesn't need to be liked, because she actually enjoys wielding power and crushing her enemies. Her epilogue is such a representative case: amass power and go on a conquest in the Underdark to carve out a seat of power in Menzoberranzan.
      The one thing that I think stands out is her cold and rational stance on the pursuit of power; she would not pursue power if the price is too great (she notes that Wyll paid for his power with corruption of the soul), does not indulge in impulsive pleasure killings, and defers to authority with complete obedience when it suits her needs. That's what makes a Lawful Evil character succeed on a far grander scale than Chaotic Evil (Impulsive Cruelty) and Neutral Evil (Selfishness), in that Lawful Evil never loses sight of the big picture. It's far harder to single out a Lawful Evil villain because they actually have capable friends and henchmen, and their personal discipline means that they are often no pushover in combat either.
      However, as she herself admits, pride is her weakness, and as a tyrant that can definitely be deadly because while they focus on the big picture and think that everyone should logically understand that they are the best person to accomplish this with, they don't realize what the fear and hatred that they inspire can make people do, and how short-sighted and ambitious they can truly be. Which is why she's so interested in finding a mate that is her complimenting equal, I suppose, so she's free to do her world-domination-progression thing with trustworthy protection and even more efficiency. Just imagine how much trouble Tav + Minthara can cause in the Underdark (and for Lolth) with a cunning player at the controls.

    • @evangelosvasiliades1204
      @evangelosvasiliades1204 Рік тому

      I'm glad to find someone else who appreciated Minthara so much. All the companions are well written, and she is no exception, but she is a character that is often done poorly, and never as a companion, easily my favourite of the game.@@ralk7048

    • @Quetzietse
      @Quetzietse Рік тому +16

      'completely devoid of malice' My guy, seems like you need to learn that just because someone isn't openly angry and 'logical' it doesn't mean that they aren't malicious or evil. In fact, malice often poses as cold calculating indifference. Minthara is malicious as fuck, don't be a fool.

    • @Lt.ArloMek
      @Lt.ArloMek 11 місяців тому +11

      A drow, devoid of malice ? You mean a dead drow ?

  • @Cake-tu6es
    @Cake-tu6es Рік тому +2077

    she roasted the whole party so precisely

    • @michaelbootes4822
      @michaelbootes4822 Рік тому +110

      I dunno not much roasting of Lae’Zel

    • @CLxJames
      @CLxJames Рік тому +86

      @@michaelbootes4822 agreed. She seemed to have nothing but admiration for her

    • @Polomance862
      @Polomance862 Рік тому +125

      Other than Lae'zel. She and her are very alike. Brutal, precise, no nonsense, deeply appreciate the art of warfare and has very little value in the concept of "innocence".
      Lae'zel is honorable, Minthara is tyrannical.

    • @ianpowell1809
      @ianpowell1809 Рік тому +6

      As the majority of Drow female leaders would be.

    • @slvaltva1392
      @slvaltva1392 Рік тому +16

      irl shed be the person that says a lot of offensive stereotypes, but only the ones that aren't exactly wrong

  • @Toffeehammer
    @Toffeehammer Рік тому +993

    I didn't have Minthara in my party but there's something about her voice that I really like. I think it's because I was expecting some kind of high-pitched anime thing but instead she has this super raspy, kinda snooty, very mature voice that's sort of unique.

    • @cheesygoodness55
      @cheesygoodness55 Рік тому +20

      You mean like a male, a transwoman?

    • @Toffeehammer
      @Toffeehammer Рік тому

      @@cheesygoodness55 No. Also, piss off.

    • @thogvii934
      @thogvii934 Рік тому +477

      @@cheesygoodness55 are you happy with yourself champ :/

    • @ralk7048
      @ralk7048 Рік тому +178

      Quite appropriate for an older Drow noble that has seen a lot and would be a powerful, young contender for the position of House Matron. The hard, clipped, yet slightly purring tone brings all that lore about the terrifying Lolth-based Drow alive.
      It's big flavour, but I wished I'd also see some followers of Eilistraee (the good Drow).

    • @Soul93Taker
      @Soul93Taker Рік тому +4

      Dunno man, she sounds like an early stage of what Miley Cyrus sounds now

  • @GudetamaSit
    @GudetamaSit Рік тому +370

    For as much of an evil, really bloody evil character she is, she's got a lot of honest and pretty solid insight on the companions.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade Рік тому +37

      For a drow especially, yes. Drow are not known for being honest. Rather the other way around, they pride themselves on their deception skills. But then again, a real master can deceive without speaking a single falsehood. You can still always trust them to hold their own wellbeing in the highest regard and if that means they have to be honest then it is exactly what they will be.

    • @indra-ty9iz
      @indra-ty9iz Рік тому +1

      ​@@BIGESTbladewell perhaps she trust the MC enough to share her thought honestly

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade Рік тому

      @@indra-ty9iz Drow do not trust anyone, least of all family and close companions.

    • @MisterCynic18
      @MisterCynic18 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@BIGESTblade actually she reminds me of a couple drow from the war of the spider queen books. There's a certain breed of drow that simply prefer not to navigate their society by constructing intricate webs of lies and manipulation, but rather survive through a cold, insightful pragmatism and an almost brutish application of power when necessary. Minthara is definitely the latter.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade 11 місяців тому +4

      @@MisterCynic18 Yes, that kind of drow exists, but not even immensely successful brother of Minthara, Jarlaxle Baenre ,could go at it alone. He survived by being too dangerous to antagonise but not strong enough to be a threat to any house. Aswell as being in good relations with all important people. That was, however, only possible because he was male and therefore had no shot at any sort of leadership position higher than Archmage and Weaponmaster. Minthara, on the other hand, is a female. Which means she has a target on her back. House Baenre is significantly less chaotic than other houses, but even there you need plenty of friends to simply not die.

  • @HellishSpoon
    @HellishSpoon Рік тому +152

    I wish we could have asked every companions about how they feel about others, this is actually really great way for character study

    • @Zomesura
      @Zomesura Місяць тому

      You can talk to them whenever someone new enters the party and they'll share their opinion on them. Although, most superficial since they just met, it's still some character development.

  • @reiyun
    @reiyun Рік тому +346

    "Minthara spits facts about the party for five minutes"

  • @pocketinfinity6733
    @pocketinfinity6733 Рік тому +249

    she is shorter than the mc but it still feels like she's looking down on you

    • @steelheart538
      @steelheart538 Рік тому +6

      Some people are into that.

    • @BarsusDraco
      @BarsusDraco 18 днів тому

      ​@@steelheart538 *I* am into that.

  • @popkhorne5372
    @popkhorne5372 Рік тому +1078

    So basically she is very much like Laezel. Something close to Lawful evil. Brutal, murderous, but all about discipline.

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 Рік тому +253

      Laezel can move to more Lawful Neutral depending on your choices

    • @luiousy7329
      @luiousy7329 Рік тому +56

      @@codyvandal2860 the prince is lawful good and she reaches similar alignment with him

    • @ethanduncan1646
      @ethanduncan1646 Рік тому +174

      ​@@codyvandal2860She is loyal to the new prince because he is the rightful ruler of the Gith, while Vlakkith is a usurper. That is more of the mindset of a lawful neutral character. She supports him because the law says he should be the king, not because she has strong moral convictions that Vlakkith's entire society that she built is wrong.

    • @codyvandal2860
      @codyvandal2860 Рік тому +34

      @@ethanduncan1646 Not explicitly in a grand announcement but indirectly over the course of the journey her comments do illustrate a change in her view. By the end she refers to their condition as 'intolerable slavery' and so on. It's also possible for her to stay in Faerun rather than return to her people if you pass a persuasion check at the end.

    • @Lyssor
      @Lyssor Рік тому +17

      I dont find her lawful evil... she is not a good either... she is... just her.

  • @rebekahj9085
    @rebekahj9085 8 місяців тому +7

    I love her respect for Lae'zel. They are very similar in a lot of ways. Brutal, efficient, matter of fact.

  • @mettatonsagent7541
    @mettatonsagent7541 Рік тому +49

    Shows up, gets an accurate profile of every party member on a pretty worrying level, refuses to elaborate, stays.

  • @ethanduncan1646
    @ethanduncan1646 Рік тому +1132

    Never underestimate the wisdom of Drow Matriarchs. They may be cruel assholes but they generally can see things for what they are while others would turn a blind eye.

    • @serronserron1320
      @serronserron1320 Рік тому +123

      That depends but their wisdom comes from centuries of political Intrigue and surviving assassinations.

    • @MiGujack3
      @MiGujack3 Рік тому +68

      ​@@serronserron1320The best way to learn anatomy and medicine.

    • @thatindiandude4602
      @thatindiandude4602 Рік тому +34

      ​@@MiGujack3and psychology

    • @NeoDMC
      @NeoDMC Рік тому +70

      If you aren't able to read people quickly and accurately, you aren't gonna be able to become/stay a Matron Mother for long. I loved the Drow books where you see from the perspective of female Drow, and realize that a lot of their hubris/arrogance are a cover to not appear weak to their mother/sisters/daughters.
      Quenthel Baenre was always a fun perspective to read in particular. She's a horrible person, but it's fun to learn that she is aware of her own weaknesses. Also funny that her own sentient snake whip doesn't particularly like her.

    • @garmfilf2789
      @garmfilf2789 Рік тому

      Drows pretty much live in a society of backstabbing and murdering all the time, mostly because of their own actions. I wouldn't say they have a very high wisdow per see.

  • @profifthwheel8323
    @profifthwheel8323 Рік тому +214

    I love the fact it's Emma Gregory who voices her, who most people would know as the voice for an awful lot of female Warhammer 40k characters and book narration. Listing to her play someone so amusingly evil is great.

    • @evangelosvasiliades1204
      @evangelosvasiliades1204 Рік тому +5

      Ooh if you know what warhammer books in particular she has done, I'd love to know. Im not usually one for audio books, but her voice is enchanting.

    • @shibasaurus322
      @shibasaurus322 Рік тому +6

      Evil Jennet Sulla😂

    • @coops1992
      @coops1992 Рік тому +1

      She is English? Or American?

    • @evangelosvasiliades1204
      @evangelosvasiliades1204 Рік тому +1

      @@coops1992 English.

    • @SeventhheavenDK
      @SeventhheavenDK 10 місяців тому

      She also voices that infamous female dwarf from Driftwood.
      "You are safe among friends, never forgetit" .
      Magister, Yarrow, and many other voices in DOS2.
      Or even more precise, Madora in DOS1.

  • @seanwilliams7655
    @seanwilliams7655 Рік тому +544

    I was wondering why it seemed like she had so much respect for the female characters then I remembered that Drow society is matriarchal.

    • @Salmon_Toastie
      @Salmon_Toastie Рік тому +43

      That’s why she sits on your face 😂

    • @90skidcultist
      @90skidcultist Рік тому +27

      Drow racism is usually well above Super Saiyan God levels above everyone else, though. Even the other Elves aren’t spared of this. Doesn’t matter if they’re female.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade Рік тому +22

      @@90skidcultist Other elves are the primary targets for drow racism. Drow hate other elves more than literally anything else. They do however value strength and that is a way of earning respect with them. They'll still get rid of you when you are no longer needed, but you won't be treated like garbage.

    • @90skidcultist
      @90skidcultist Рік тому +5

      @@BIGESTblade True. They’re classic fascists. …Want to “purify” their own race/species first. Then work their way out to “deal” with the other “lesser” species. Humans would be the “end-game” threat for them. As they’re everywhere & are quite powerful.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade Рік тому +5

      @@90skidcultist Not really, no. It's more about other elves collectively deciding to send them to live in Underdark shithole most likely hoping that drow would die there. Drow do have a legitimate beat with other elves.

  • @Holydiver60
    @Holydiver60 Рік тому +512

    She even has lines for Wyll... you basically have to skip the grove quest to get them both in the party

    • @Mistasandman
      @Mistasandman Рік тому +49

      If you knock her out in the fight you don't have to skip it.

    • @Mr_Lunatic_Mr
      @Mr_Lunatic_Mr Рік тому +4

      ​@@Mistasandmani did that but i'm goblin camp she didnt appear later

    • @dognbundad
      @dognbundad Рік тому +68

      @@Mistasandman knocking them out ig is akin to killing them they just don't "die" so you can have a sort of non-death play experience most of the time as long as you don't end them with non-melee damage

    • @imperialtrooper927
      @imperialtrooper927 Рік тому +1

      @@dognbundad so does that mean you can still encounter this character if you say, take out their base then?

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse Рік тому +8

      @@imperialtrooper927 as long as you don't kill her in Act 1 you can recruit her in Act 2

  • @SpicyPsyDuck
    @SpicyPsyDuck Рік тому +116

    Emma Gregory is a amazing actress, love all her performances in the Warhammer audio dramas.

    • @joeb3505
      @joeb3505 Рік тому +2

      Is she in Hammer & Bolter? Or one of the other 40k animated series? The voice sounds so familiar

    • @fallout44454
      @fallout44454 Рік тому +9

      Holy crap it's Lady general Sulla!

    • @Avengedtenfold
      @Avengedtenfold Рік тому +3

      @@fallout44454 I was wondering why her voice sounded so familiar.

    • @BigMikeMcBastard
      @BigMikeMcBastard Рік тому

      @@joeb3505 She narrates the parts of Aleya Tanau, the Sister of Silence featured prominently in the Watchers of the Throne series.

    • @popkhorne5372
      @popkhorne5372 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Avengedtenfoldshe also voices the sister of battle in 40k 9th ed trailer.

  • @robertconroy7062
    @robertconroy7062 Рік тому +122

    Both Lae’zel and Minthara have similar personality types.
    So it makes sense that she sees herself in Lae’zel

  • @teoadventures2564
    @teoadventures2564 Рік тому +307

    The assumption about Gale 😂, reminds me of the meme that every wizard can die of a 1d4 damage from a stick weapon

    • @ChessWyrm
      @ChessWyrm Рік тому +79

      A wizard just died of 1d4 emotional damage.

    • @digitaldevil696
      @digitaldevil696 Рік тому +40

      @@ChessWyrm a successful cast of vicious mockery saying "get rekt nerd" will do that 😆

    • @lenlimbo
      @lenlimbo Рік тому +18

      To be fair, there was this old saying, comming from the days of 3.5 and prior, that says that all the wizards become evil when they reach level 5 and learn to throw fireball because they were useless and mocked through the first four levels. Having to defend yourself with throwing daggers or a staff with just 1 to 4 d4 of hit points once you are out of spell slots is a painful experience.

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 Рік тому +12

      She’s right though… in every battle in in the AI seems to focus on Gale and take him or any spellcaster out she is 100% correct in saying that mages get rkt in Warfare

    • @lenlimbo
      @lenlimbo Рік тому +13

      @@makeytgreatagain6256 It's common sense, you either take down the enemy's spellcasters or they are going to ruin your day.

  • @HrHaakon
    @HrHaakon Рік тому +291

    I mean, Jaheira has murdered her way through the underdark before. Her adventures with the Bhaalspawn should be inspiring quiet whispers of "OH SHIT. IT'S HER." everywhere she goes.
    And depending on the choices the player made in Throne of Bhaal, she may or may not be *close* personal friends with a literal god.
    Jaheira at the end of ToB is a damn near unstoppable killing machine. Even if she multiclassed using AD&D rules.

    • @Jen-Yueh_Hu
      @Jen-Yueh_Hu Рік тому +13

      Anybody with a +6 weapon and (G)WW is a killing machine in ToB.

    • @HrHaakon
      @HrHaakon Рік тому +10

      ​@@Jen-Yueh_Hu
      Or improved haste. That spell is also amazing.

    • @Veldazandtea
      @Veldazandtea Рік тому +6

      That's assuming the player becomes a god. I refused that. Because the cost is leaving the party behind. It's made very clear.
      Don't need to be a god to get results and go to hell and back. What is a god when mortals can slay them?

    • @HrHaakon
      @HrHaakon Рік тому +5

      ​@@Veldazandtea
      This woman lives and has strength of a sort. She lost her parents to plague, her husband to war, but she persevered. Her farm has prospered, her name is respected and her children are fed and safe. She lived as she thought she should. And now she is dead. Her land will be divided, her children will move on, and she will be forgotten. She lived a good life, but she had no power; she was a slave to death. I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
      - Some ex-elf who kinda had a point.

    • @Merknilash
      @Merknilash Рік тому +1

      you're expecting competent writing. we didn't get that.

  • @MegaShepardsPie
    @MegaShepardsPie Рік тому +57

    Minthara roasting Gale more than that orb in his chest ever could.

  • @suguri2075
    @suguri2075 Рік тому +13

    I could listen to that voice for hours. It's so good.

  • @Unworshipediety
    @Unworshipediety Рік тому +71

    Wow, she's beautifully written.

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader Рік тому

      Too bad her introduction sucks big time. a drow with such profound wisdom has no business being a murder hobo.

    • @theviniso
      @theviniso Рік тому +9

      The writing and voice acting across this whole game is nothing short of phenomenal.

  • @erikraisey
    @erikraisey Рік тому +19

    LMFAO, Gale in the backgroud literally like 4:16 🧍‍♂

  • @soham3025
    @soham3025 Рік тому +23

    Her analysis on Gale was so on point considering his suicidal hunger for karsus's power which is killing him as well as the entire Kingdom. I mean take it that sundries wizard bro was out there for immortality only to get killed faster. Voldemort dying younger than Dumbledore despite his hunger for longer life 😂

  • @criptomart3352
    @criptomart3352 Рік тому +47

    The level of the writing and acting in this game is incredible, this clip proves that.

  • @frameception2370
    @frameception2370 Рік тому +6

    4:15 "I suspect it is only a matter of time before he goes up in smoke"
    BLURRED GALE IN THE BACKGROUND TURNS IMMEDIATELY

  • @OmnipotentGoggles
    @OmnipotentGoggles Рік тому +326

    Tldw:
    Shadowheart: Fine, but Shar is cringe.
    Astarion: Total slave to vampire daddy, kinda cringe.
    Lae'zel: Impressive, called me cringe when I asked her how she got so cool.
    Gale: Wizards exist only to blow themselves up, cringe.
    Jaheira: Very impressive, shame the Harpers are cringe.

    • @solaris4019
      @solaris4019 Рік тому

      YOUR ALL COMMENT IS CRINGE KID AMATOR

    • @luth7050
      @luth7050 Рік тому +3

      xD

    • @towelgirl21
      @towelgirl21 10 місяців тому

      I lost it when I read the Lae'zel part

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl Рік тому +41

    She’s callous but I don’t deny that she has at least one point with each when it comes to their flaws.
    To be expected I suppose, to survive in the Underdark requires discerning weakness to be exploited rather than seeing strength to be nurtured.

    • @slaturwinters1828
      @slaturwinters1828 Рік тому

      All the while PTSD inducing culture and religion sounds like hell

  • @Discopandda
    @Discopandda Рік тому +69

    I really wish i could recruit her without murdering everyone in the grove and making karlach leave...

    • @zerwif
      @zerwif Рік тому +17

      If you stay neutral and don't side with the Druids or Goblins, you get Minthara, Wyll, and Karlach in the same party. However, the Tieflings still venture out and mostly die in Act 2.

    • @seejur
      @seejur Рік тому +2

      @@zerwif How that affect Karlach personal quest, since Dammon the tielfling smith is no more there? (or does he make it to night inn?)

    • @xOrangelinkx
      @xOrangelinkx Рік тому +11

      @@zerwif you can actually depose or fix kagha by following the quest from looking at her personal chest and exposing her as working for the shadow druids and the tieflings will live

    • @jungshin87
      @jungshin87 Рік тому

      i cant believe this is possible. i lost 10 hours if i go back and re-do it sigh.

    • @walabixha1746
      @walabixha1746 Рік тому

      ​@@xOrangelinkxwait so you can have minthra and have the triflings live?

  • @earllan2992
    @earllan2992 Рік тому +192

    I like how she describes Karlach, a lonely warrior with a burning heart yearning for love and companion, live in the moment, and it is beautiful. Pity there ain't any beautiful ending for Karlach... :(

    • @bezretmet
      @bezretmet Рік тому +19

      it was cut! ugh so hateful

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy Рік тому

      If this is your first game from Larian Studios, you might be happy to hear that we have a good chance to get some, maybe most, of that cut content back. For Free.
      Larian Studio gave "Divinity: Original Sin" and "Divinity: Original Sin 2" a definitive edition upgrade that added back a lot of the cut content.
      So let's hope Larian does the same for Baldur's Gate 3. @@bezretmet

    • @booskie4316
      @booskie4316 Рік тому +3

      Karlach can stay on Faerun if you let her become a mindflayer.

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy Рік тому

      the issue with that is in lore Mindflayers simply copy their host's memory. In lore you can also resurrect victims after their body transformed. So Mindflayer Karlach is not our Karlach, based on lore, at least.@@booskie4316

    • @GrandMarshalGarithos
      @GrandMarshalGarithos Рік тому +30

      @@booskie4316 Worst outcome.

  • @veronicashields4405
    @veronicashields4405 Рік тому +5

    I think what’s fascinating about Minthara is that she’s brutally blunt…but also extremely insightful and thoughtfully so. She’s proud and haughty but not to the point of having no empathy or awareness of others beyond her own perception. You can see why people are drawn to her despite her rough edges.
    She’s a great example of how to write Lawful Evil - because from her perspective, she is doing what us right and just for the world.

  • @brookeguy5547
    @brookeguy5547 Рік тому +132

    Okay but she's kinda spitting facts about Shar worship tho...

    • @BlueMagicite
      @BlueMagicite Рік тому +26

      Shit, she and that Hag both peel back how petty Shar worship is at the end of the day lol

    • @chasewilson3693
      @chasewilson3693 Рік тому +18

      @@BlueMagicite petty worship for a petty god

    • @Veldazandtea
      @Veldazandtea Рік тому +15

      It's even proven once Shadowheart does her questline. Shar is a petty murder hobo. That wants her worshippers to murder for her.
      Shar is too afraid of what others think of her. Her worshippers are afraid and have something to hide. It's living in fear.

  • @coruviel
    @coruviel Рік тому +47

    I'm trying very hard on my 2nd playthrough to get minthara this time, but everytime i see the lovey dovey tiefling couple in the grove i can't bring myself to do it, i think i may need to start over and embrace the dark urge.

    • @Laukaus11
      @Laukaus11 Рік тому +2

      You can also recruit her in Act 2 if you simply skip the grove conflict rather than resolve it.

    • @haudraufmaus
      @haudraufmaus Рік тому +8

      So I killed Kagha for the tieflings, but the druids wiped out most of the other tiefling at the same time, including zevlor. That led to the tieflings leaving the grove anyway and trying their luck on the roads. then i led the goblins into a basically empty druid grove and now minthara likes me even though i didnt kill a single tiefling. well except the ones that captured laezel.

    • @Rowan3733
      @Rowan3733 Рік тому

      ​@@haudraufmaus Did Karlach and Wyll remain in your party?

    • @haudraufmaus
      @haudraufmaus Рік тому

      @@Rowan3733 Wyll left, Karlach I hadn't yet recruited. I wonder if that will still be possible.

    • @nightman922
      @nightman922 Рік тому +3

      @@haudraufmaus Karlach would have "heard" about the goblin attack and not join you

  • @jasonrabeiro2009
    @jasonrabeiro2009 Рік тому +46

    Every word she has spoken has been both harsh and true. Damn.

  • @josephercanbrack8393
    @josephercanbrack8393 Рік тому +28

    I honestly like her more than most of the other companions. She has a nice bit of depth to her despite being evil. Granted my first playthrough has been a mostly evil playthrough, so I probably haven't seen all the sides to the few companions I have left.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade Рік тому

      Evil characters normally have much more capacity for depth than good ones.

    • @classicrocker8780
      @classicrocker8780 Рік тому +1

      Spoilers:
      It's an act. Minthara is, and always will be, a sociopathic liar that pursuits power only for herself and enjoys torturing and killing in anyone's name.
      If you play as the Durge and embrace it, at one point you can show her your gorey thoughts through telepathy.
      Up until then she laments for those she killed for the Absolute.
      When you show her your gore-ridden thoughts, she is straight up ecstatic to propel you to your goal.
      This bitch cray, and I love her for it.

    • @NerdAlert42
      @NerdAlert42 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@classicrocker8780actually, i think that's a bit of drow lore showing through!
      Think about it.
      If you're dealing with someone that unhinged, you may not be able to get away. Where's the safest place then?
      As their trusted right hand man.
      That's just an average tuesday for drow. If someone's that eager to act as a weapon, then they're gonna do whatever it takes to NOT be staring down the barrel.

  • @X9Killbot
    @X9Killbot Рік тому +36

    I wish there was a way to recruit her while saving the grove. She sounds like a very interesting character.

    • @evangelosvasiliades1204
      @evangelosvasiliades1204 Рік тому +6

      You already have to lose five companions going evil playthrough, its only fair you get atleast one to compensate lol.

    • @jessblues848
      @jessblues848 Рік тому +1

      ​@@evangelosvasiliades1204you only lose two

    • @evangelosvasiliades1204
      @evangelosvasiliades1204 Рік тому +13

      @@jessblues848 If you are playing an evil character you wont be getting Halsin either, and then in act 2 you wont get Jaheira, which means later you cant get Minsc.

    • @jagore1258
      @jagore1258 Рік тому +13

      @@evangelosvasiliades1204 Not to mention all the great loot you get from killing the baddies in this game. Tiefling refugees aren't exactly swimming in magical items. lol

    • @theviniso
      @theviniso Рік тому +5

      @@evangelosvasiliades1204 But she has lines for Jaheira here? Surely you can recruit both of them, unless there's a way to recruit her while not playing an evil character.

  • @danieljames6240
    @danieljames6240 Рік тому +43

    I wish there was a way to clear the path for the tieflings to leave the druid grove then side with the goblins.

    • @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl
      @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl Рік тому +1

      There is, at least in journal. "The surviving tieflings left the grove" and then help minthara.

    • @coops1992
      @coops1992 Рік тому

      There are still tiefling corpses all over your camp after that happens anyway@@tyranmcgrathmnkklkl

    • @Romczy
      @Romczy Рік тому

      Yes, save the tiefligs but slaughter druids...... wow

  • @unit38421
    @unit38421 Рік тому +53

    How goes it again? "Never in my life have I been so offended by something that I 100% agree with". She might throw some shade while she does it, but her assessments are on point, and some of them are actually quite insightful.

    • @lenlimbo
      @lenlimbo Рік тому +12

      That's how you actually write an interesting villain character, specially a drow. And why people are pissed about what they did to Viconia.

    • @unit38421
      @unit38421 Рік тому +3

      @@lenlimboAgreed. That's why it's a shame that she comes at such a great cost.

    • @Veldazandtea
      @Veldazandtea Рік тому +6

      The problem is she gets a bad introduction with a brainless murder hobo siege. It's very undrow like. It would only make sense if she had more drow support.
      Goblins aren't meant for sieges. They're fodder. Without support from others that's all they are. Do you think they stand a chance against druids and shape shifting animals? The siege itself is a stupid idea. Why not a more sneaky route with killing Zavron and Kagha? Can eve work int he shadow druids and kill the leadership (quietly) before heading back to the drow. This would be a more drow like way of doing things and have more varid playstyles.

    • @unit38421
      @unit38421 Рік тому +13

      @@VeldazandteaShe actually makes a complaint along those lines later on, if you side with her.

    • @Veldazandtea
      @Veldazandtea Рік тому

      @@unit38421 Regardless of how the lore justifies it it's giving minthara a bad first impression, giving people little incentive to have her as a companion because "Murder hobo or miss out". That would have worked better for an orc or some other more direct character.
      The problem with goblins is there're not that good at any single thing. They're a jack of all trades race. They CAN fight and sneak, but a drow will do stealth much better. So we have this race that can fight OR sneak, lead by a drow, and the drow tries to siege instead of sending the player to assassinate without a big battle?
      Any drow leader worth their salt will try to have the leadership assassinated first and siege after. The very fact that the player can free the goblin proves they can sneak out. Which means they can sneak in.

  • @ReplicatorFifth
    @ReplicatorFifth Рік тому +29

    Idk, think I dismissed Minthara too easily. She straight up spittin’ facts on all accounts

  • @BunnsAndGlory
    @BunnsAndGlory Рік тому +2

    Her voice and her intensity leaves me breathless shes so amazing 😭❤

  • @digitaldevil696
    @digitaldevil696 Рік тому +32

    Of course she likes Lae'zel 😂

  • @internaut4257
    @internaut4257 Рік тому +13

    The devs should add the the cut minthara content, i read theres whole quest lines involving here that didnt make it, they must bring it back

    • @sethnewlin510
      @sethnewlin510 Рік тому +10

      Apparently the reason a lot of the companion content was cut was because their quests ended in the Upper City, which is an entire section of the Act 3 map that was cut for time reasons. In order to restore the Minthara companion content (or other stuff like Karlach good ending etc) they would have to restore the entire Upper City, or remake the quests to take place in other locations. Unfortunately the best we can hope for is a definitive edition like Divinity OS 2 got, but even then it sounds like quite a lot more content got cut in BG3 than the DOS2 definitive edition added. Hopefully with the massive success of BG3 they can afford to make a more extensive definitive edition this time, but even in that best case scenario expect to be waiting at least a year.

    • @kendrickvickers2610
      @kendrickvickers2610 Рік тому +3

      @@sethnewlin510 or they just go and do it as a DLC which i would honestly pay for

  • @jordanjoestar-turniptruck
    @jordanjoestar-turniptruck Рік тому +8

    You know, at the very end i almost expected her to say "I would rather betray the world than have the world betray me."

  • @presidenttogekiss635
    @presidenttogekiss635 Рік тому +13

    Seeing her "gnome in a war" commrnt makes me wish I had kept Gale since my MC is a deep gnome

  • @js1031
    @js1031 Рік тому +3

    What Minthara has to say about the Harpers and groups like them. She raises some valid points...

  • @williambrown8686
    @williambrown8686 Рік тому +6

    This Dommy Mommy is going to be in my party for my next playthrough.

  • @ogion539
    @ogion539 Рік тому +36

    She's basically what I wanted Shadowheart to be. I'm not going to murder a bunch of innocents to get her though

  • @torquilcolbo1589
    @torquilcolbo1589 Рік тому +7

    I wonder if Mithara would add 'no offense' after saying 'wizards have the life expectancy of a gnome in war' to a gnome player. (probably not)

    • @Zaxares
      @Zaxares Рік тому +6

      I'm sure Larian thought of it. There's a line where Astarion's begging for some blood and you can tell him "Animals only", and he's all "But what DEFINES an animal anyway? Would you consider kobolds to be animals? Gnomes?" And if you're a gnome, he says "halflings?" instead. XD

  • @leokeatonn
    @leokeatonn Рік тому +3

    Next playthrough I'ma have to RP the shit out of a character so that I can have her as a companion. I fucking love whoever voiced her.

  • @sarah_drake
    @sarah_drake Рік тому +5

    Minthara my beloved, I would murder an entire Grove of druids and tieflings for you

  • @JJ-qo7th
    @JJ-qo7th Рік тому +3

    "THIS WORLD IS IMPERFECT."
    "wat?"
    "IF ONLY I COULD WIPE AWAY THE IMPURITIES."
    "Is anyone else...listening to thi-"
    "TO MAKE IT AS BEAUTIFUL AS ME."

  • @xanderstuivenberg
    @xanderstuivenberg Рік тому +1

    4:08 love how she's mocking Gale while he's standing in the background, you can even see him looking towards you while she ends her sentence with ''... goes up in smoke.'' xD

  • @WexMajor82
    @WexMajor82 Рік тому +10

    Now I wanna see what she says if you are a Gnome Wizard.

  • @TheDailychaos
    @TheDailychaos Рік тому +6

    Man I love the writing in this game

  • @ARHZONE
    @ARHZONE 6 місяців тому

    Honestly what i love about Minthara is that when you first meet her, she just comes off as an evil death bringing sadist, but after you get to know she is actually a truly insightful and wise character.
    She gives me this vibe of being a wise and seasoned advisor who you can go to for whenever you needed advice. Sure she can have her moments of violence and wanting to eradicate someone, but she tells it how it is and has no quarrel with admiring people for the struggles they've gone through.

  • @PicklesRTasty
    @PicklesRTasty Рік тому

    Thanks for the video, as like many other people on their evil playthroughs, not many companions were left over after they all left me...

  • @dorukhanozen2580
    @dorukhanozen2580 Рік тому +6

    I will never be able to take her seriously after shoving her of to death in every single playthrough. She never lived more than 3 turns of combat.

  • @gabrielportocarrerovilchez9630

    Its funny that she wants to break the mould and make a New World so as to not be content with the imperfections of this World... But any World is flawed and imperfect so she'll do the same and be content with the imperfections that she would make.

    • @alexfrost2420
      @alexfrost2420 Рік тому +3

      You are... right. Minthara is the most power hungry of all companions, though she fails to elaborate why she needs this power in the first place. She wants to change the world, to dominate, yet she lacks vision. I can't say for sure whether it is a good or bad thing. Her wisdom and ruthlessness complements evil PC too perfectly, yet their relationship totally lacks any disagreement from her part.

  • @friedipar
    @friedipar Рік тому +1

    Emma Gregory does such agreat job as her voice-actress!
    The only other role i remember her from is her General Sulla from the "Ciaphas Cain" audiobooks

  • @jabadahut50
    @jabadahut50 3 місяці тому

    there's something interesting I've noticed about the way Minthara speaks to Tav. It's most evident when speaking about Lae'zel and Astarion. She seems to speak to Tav in a subtly mocking tone that is all at once respectful and educative despite the light mockery. It fits with her views of Tav as her savior mixed with her life long nature as a drow. Her writing and voice actor are super on point. I love it.

  • @erris5744
    @erris5744 Рік тому +17

    I wish there was a way to get her without having to murder the Grove or completely ignoring her. A way to convince her of the Absolute's truth like you can with Nere.

    • @elseggs6504
      @elseggs6504 10 місяців тому +1

      Keep making more wishes bro

    • @erris5744
      @erris5744 10 місяців тому +1

      @@elseggs6504 ikr, I forgot all about this comment, lmao

  • @TopShot501st
    @TopShot501st 11 місяців тому +1

    Minthara truly the most BASED Companion...

  • @sonadowfiend
    @sonadowfiend Рік тому +1

    Me, playing a High Elf: The only thing I want to hear from you is your dying wail, sinspawn.

  • @henryweiland7761
    @henryweiland7761 Рік тому +9

    The wisdom of evil

  • @zuluepsilon9880
    @zuluepsilon9880 Рік тому +5

    never knew she was a companion. murdered her every time clearing the camp you meet her in

    • @CJ-wh7ik
      @CJ-wh7ik Рік тому +1

      ppl basically only learn it in their evil dark urge playthrough when they decide to ally with absolute and/or kill as many ppl as possible (even women and children)

    • @kendrickvickers2610
      @kendrickvickers2610 Рік тому

      @@CJ-wh7ik got her on my 1. run without playing dark urge just being chaotic, helping someone here killing someone there and demanding pay for everything

  • @dastvan8002
    @dastvan8002 Рік тому +2

    Speaking as a wizard main both here and tabletop everything she said about wizards is true.

    • @ITBEurgava
      @ITBEurgava Рік тому +1

      They're always the first to be hunted down in any adventuring band.

  • @AB-xe9nk
    @AB-xe9nk Рік тому +75

    Her opinion on the Harpers’ neutrality is insanely based. Pick a side, or step aside.

    • @HrHaakon
      @HrHaakon Рік тому +5

      Neutrality *is* a side.

    • @takeachance5881
      @takeachance5881 Рік тому +26

      @@HrHaakon There's no neutrality other than the one that wishes to relinquish both sides they are neutral to. Otherwise neutrality is nothing but complacency.

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer Рік тому

      @@HrHaakon Geralt plez

    • @abilawaandamari8366
      @abilawaandamari8366 Рік тому

      This is such a leftist take lmao

    • @nalrashido
      @nalrashido 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, the genocide route of dealing with sides/factions is the appropriate way to deal with the problem of "pick a side, or step aside."
      After all, beating those sides only proves that their opinions are ultimately meaningless.

  • @xduwu4257
    @xduwu4257 Рік тому +2

    I didn't even know she was an important character. My first save i just pushed her down a pit and killed her-

  • @Hall2088
    @Hall2088 3 місяці тому

    This may have been the most point blank examination of every character by someone who is capable of seeing the bigger picture.

  • @fistan5447
    @fistan5447 Рік тому +107

    Wait, how on earth did you manage to rescue Minthara AND have Jaheira? Do Last Light Inn not attack you if you demolish the grove?

    • @Kutikyla
      @Kutikyla Рік тому +5

      No

    • @PerfectParadox
      @PerfectParadox  Рік тому +68

      Nope. I even killed last light inn aswell since the dark urge demanded it and I was still able to get her to join with some lying.

    • @fistan5447
      @fistan5447 Рік тому +5

      @@PerfectParadox noice, btw there's no way for her or Minsc to join if you keep Shadowheart as Sharran though right?

    • @jkrpgaming
      @jkrpgaming Рік тому +21

      @@fistan5447 i recruited jahiera with sharran shadowheart, you can recruit every companion all at once, but halsin and minthara are buggy when both are recruited together

    • @sidra_games4551
      @sidra_games4551 Рік тому +1

      @@jkrpgaming How do you get Halsin and Minthara?

  • @BB_Promoter
    @BB_Promoter 11 місяців тому

    I find it so very funny that about 4:18, when referring to Gale as being a 'State of suspended combustion' you can just see him doing some idle animations in the background, makes me feel like Minthara's gossiping

  • @Kemuael378
    @Kemuael378 Рік тому +1

    0:55 - 1:15
    My Favourite line in the Game.

  • @BoosterGoldv76
    @BoosterGoldv76 Рік тому +1

    She got fuckin one tapped by me when i slaughtered her precious goblin village at level 2. A pity

  • @NeoDMC
    @NeoDMC Рік тому +5

    I was about to ask where are her opinions of Wyll and Karlach?
    Then I remembered they leave the group if you get this close to Minthara.

  • @jarko314
    @jarko314 Рік тому +1

    I didn't even know that Minthara was a possible recruitable character, I got in a mess at the goblin camp, and ended with me looting her undergarments from her cadaver...

  • @animegx45
    @animegx45 2 місяці тому

    She knows that wizards either get focused down before they throw a fireball, or they accidently blow themselves up by their own fireballs.

  • @Xshathra006
    @Xshathra006 Рік тому +1

    Those who played DOS:2...the VA is the "Keeping it together Bree" lady, I am losing it

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 Рік тому +1

    Minthara may be my new favourite character.

  • @Erik-z7x
    @Erik-z7x Рік тому +2

    even minthara simps for lae'zel, i fell for both... i think i have a thing for strong women...

  • @juleswoodbury58
    @juleswoodbury58 4 місяці тому

    you can tell she is honest, when she straight up tells you that none can hold the candle to lazael and her undying loyalty to you.

  • @thenoddistsdisciple
    @thenoddistsdisciple Рік тому

    She's surprisingly insightful, I'll give her that

  • @What_do_I_Think
    @What_do_I_Think Рік тому +1

    Great writing!

  • @ThisReactiverse
    @ThisReactiverse Рік тому +1

    Minthara has a wonderful wisdom to her

  • @rancidavocado2166
    @rancidavocado2166 9 місяців тому +1

    Like I appreciate baldur gate and minthara being a much needed morally evil character but I do wish we had the option of guiding away from her violent power hungry tendencies

  • @DarkDragonRus
    @DarkDragonRus Рік тому +26

    Minthara AND Jaheira both in the party at the same time? How?

    • @Baragys
      @Baragys Рік тому +2

      Jaheira, Viconia de vir, Mintara😊

    • @PerfectParadox
      @PerfectParadox  Рік тому +4

      Just walked over to last light inn and made friends with her lol.

    • @HrHaakon
      @HrHaakon Рік тому +1

      @@Baragys
      Viconia is in the game? I can't wait to find her.

  • @elementz301
    @elementz301 Рік тому +3

    Had to idea she was a companion or had this much dialogue. Gotta do a 3rd playthrough and go full evil I guess

    • @guilfordstancill3456
      @guilfordstancill3456 Рік тому +1

      Even with her story not being complete I find her to be the most realistic character. It's if Salvatore did the writing for her himself. The epitome of what Id expect from a Beanre noble.

  • @Tik1F
    @Tik1F Рік тому +15

    Her lines are based.

  • @canoflop
    @canoflop Рік тому +2

    I wish I could have her in my party without siding with the goblins

  • @ivanf3973
    @ivanf3973 Рік тому +17

    Why is her character the only one who can do this?

    • @PerfectParadox
      @PerfectParadox  Рік тому +27

      Minsc also does it and it's hilarious

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 Рік тому +19

      Because the other give their opinion on other characters when they joined (and react to different events happening to others too), but since she's recruited way after the other she can't do that

  • @billshull9468
    @billshull9468 Рік тому +1

    Amazing voice actor.

  • @Smoji069
    @Smoji069 Рік тому +11

    Has a lot of respect towards the warrior women as expected. I could see a evil playthrough with her, astarian, and shadowheart to be quite fun.

    • @johnbarber3572
      @johnbarber3572 Рік тому +4

      It is very fun especially with DUrge
      Edit:minthara is hilariously diabolical at times

  • @jeffdumpster1470
    @jeffdumpster1470 Рік тому

    great writing and acting she is the best companion

  • @Burnttoaster1111
    @Burnttoaster1111 4 місяці тому

    4:16 You think Gale can hear them talking about him?

  • @maisieghosted3592
    @maisieghosted3592 Рік тому

    she speaks truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

  • @someone4650
    @someone4650 Рік тому

    I love how she roasts everyone except Laezel and Jaheira, who she admires

  • @not_ryuka
    @not_ryuka Рік тому +2

    5:22
    she is literally me

  • @jakecheck3225
    @jakecheck3225 Рік тому

    Evil characters are always so logically felonious

  • @ionutcriveanu7019
    @ionutcriveanu7019 3 місяці тому

    Her type of person would have a meltdown if she received the same kind of dressing down.

  • @cakesly
    @cakesly Рік тому +1

    she read Astarion for filth, damn

  • @keorei
    @keorei Рік тому

    ive never talked to minthara. rougher voice then i wouldve thought