Doug and Pat on The Kemper Profiling Amplifier.

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  • Опубліковано 2 січ 2020
  • Doug and Pat continue their terrifying journey to be more modern and hip without giving up their love of vintage gear. Possible? Maybe so in the case of the Kemper which uses some kind of Voodoo system to capture the sonic qualities of a live amplifier using whatever microphone or speaker you want. But how does it sound compared to the same amp, same speaker and same microphone when played live? In order to find out they brought in hipster Jeremie Murfin of Five Star Guitars and his very own Kemper to do the demo. *Attention KEMPER OWNERS-Profiles NOW AVAILABLE at: www.theDougandPatShow.com/Kemper tab** Yup, we have Doug's Vox AC10 SRT profiles and more***. "Onward and forward into the future, we ain't 'fraid of nothin" D&P
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  • @brooklynboy1000
    @brooklynboy1000 4 роки тому +9

    In a mix noone would ever know. Plus an old amp could get stolen. I'm sold

  • @BeardedBluesDude
    @BeardedBluesDude 4 роки тому +31

    oh if Doug and pat profile their amps I might jus have to buy a Kemper :)

    • @seamusdolan1456
      @seamusdolan1456 3 роки тому

      The true brilliance of the Kemper is for night club acts or gigs you can bring out an ampeg.svt a plexi a super reverb a sunn concert ,,and not risk back injury...20 amps little more 20 lbs!

  • @rikh78
    @rikh78 4 роки тому +7

    great to see you guys with an open mind to this stuff, the Kemper is an incredible piece of engineering.

  • @TheToneLounge
    @TheToneLounge 4 роки тому

    Oh heck yes! I've been waiting a long time for a new video. Watching now. Cheers

  • @Cantstandtherock
    @Cantstandtherock 4 роки тому +8

    I have a Kemper, it’s literally all I need. I got rid of everything else I had and got a bunch of Michael Britt profiles and I’m done! I have a friend that swore for YEARS when I using a Fractal that he would NEVER use anything but amps/pedals. He uses a kemper now....It’s seriously that nuts!

    • @cardbored_
      @cardbored_ 3 роки тому +2

      I did that too, for 2 years and then just bought a Friedman and re-built my pedalboard. The Kemper is a great tool and it sounds just fine, but for me it just wasn't inspiring to play at all. It's almost like a clinical tool where it does a job flawlessly but for me, I missed the tactile feel of "real" amps and pedals and the inspiration I get by changing things on the fly without having to drill through a bunch of menu's. I still have my Kemper Power Rack and Controller and don't plan on selling, for recording it's excellent, but for daily playing I went back to my "real" amps.

  • @SAGGING_GUT
    @SAGGING_GUT 4 роки тому +6

    I've been thinking for a very long time about getting a kemper (I'm a home player, about to move into a flat/apartment from living in a house) and this video was really helpful. Every other video I've ever watched about the kemper I could never really hear any difference whatsoever. Finally I've found a video with comparison that actually seems to sound different - the kemper profiles had a noticeably flatter sound whereas the live amps had much more range to my ears. That being said, for someone like me - where volume is an incredibly important concern, the Kemper is the obvious choice. You get 80-90% as close whilst being able to maintain reasonable volumes (or use headphones)

  • @briangmail8826
    @briangmail8826 4 роки тому +3

    Never thought I would see the day! Greetings from the UK!

  • @Fksu
    @Fksu 4 роки тому

    Wow! I'm impressed with you guys! Way to go!

  • @andreana2112
    @andreana2112 4 роки тому

    Happy new year, gents. Thanks for the episode.

  • @TVoltG
    @TVoltG 4 роки тому +10

    After a year owning my Kemper and still going back to back with "real" amps. I can say that the Kemper is still a joy to own. I use a powered head with a 412 cab with green backs and v30's mixed. So most of my profiles I use are Direct ones profiled without the cabs. I really love the little toaster. Saying all that, I still love "real" amps.. Great time to be a guitarist.

  • @gussywellz9714
    @gussywellz9714 4 роки тому

    awesome episode fellas and Doug u sound amazing!! cheers!

  • @jamesbutterson5218
    @jamesbutterson5218 4 роки тому

    Glad you're back 🤘💚 💨✌

  • @Fox-86
    @Fox-86 4 роки тому

    Haven't watched the video yet but it's great to see you guys again!

  • @RollieFingers59
    @RollieFingers59 4 роки тому

    Love this show and these guys. Rock on !!!

  • @sintech67
    @sintech67 4 роки тому +4

    We're all thinking the same thing.. Wouldn't it be amazing to try the Profile for this amazing amp! Even if it's a taster to a full Profile Pack for the AC10 SRT, now is good!

  • @kevinfitzgerald4561
    @kevinfitzgerald4561 4 роки тому +2

    The legends return....

  • @Mrguitarcraze
    @Mrguitarcraze 4 роки тому +4

    I would like to see a video with the UA Ox amp with the hailed AC10 Vox. Thanks Doug and Pat, always love your show.

  • @OscarDad
    @OscarDad 4 роки тому

    man how did i miss the couple new videos for 6 mos. GREAT to see ya both again. Nice Job Jeremy, Ive always wondered how the Kemper works. Ive seen a show ( Paul Thorn band ) at the Aladdin where the guitarist used a Kemper into PA, and he sounded very good. Maybe in a studio / recording setting the better dynamic range of the real amp/ cab / speaker / mic would be noteworthy to the 5% of the population ( Tonehounds ) that have an informed trained ear - Live the Kemper was impressive. Thanks guys for an excellent show
    - Mark in Hillsboro

  • @DunsysGuitarWorld
    @DunsysGuitarWorld 4 роки тому

    Old? Absolutely no way guys! I always look forward to hearing what 400 years of proper Rock and Roll guitar playing experience has to say about such new fangled things 😀 Great to see you back. Hope you’re both well. Best wishes for 2020 from Edinburgh, Scotland. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +1

      Doug will be in Scotland in the early summer tracing down his family Scottish roots. Also to pick up any donations of fabulous vintage guitars as part of the "Make Doug and Pat rich" campaign. D&P

    • @DunsysGuitarWorld
      @DunsysGuitarWorld 4 роки тому

      The Doug and Pat Show I’ll see what I can find in the attic 👍

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 4 роки тому

    Love these videos, guys! Hope you and your families are safe and well during these crazy times. Thanks for the informative and entertaining videos! Also, please do sell the profiles of your AC10 SRT's! I'm a Vox fanboy, and I have to play Kempers at church instead of my AC30tb6 because you know, volume. I would love some clean-ish profiles to play with form your sweet Voxes too! I made a few pretty good ones of my Vox, but I would dig some variation on that sound. It's actually been suprisingly hard for me to find exciting profiles. You would think not, but yea...

  • @chuckfitzpatrick2422
    @chuckfitzpatrick2422 4 роки тому

    Love the show boys.

  • @DEADMEDIC
    @DEADMEDIC 4 роки тому +19

    How do I get my hands on the profile of that map

  • @budgetguitaristcom
    @budgetguitaristcom 4 роки тому

    YES! The boys are back. Modeling is ultimately the future - what a Kemper can do for two grand, one day they'll be able to do for a couple hundred bucks. I still love my tube amps, though.

  • @robertparker3580
    @robertparker3580 4 роки тому

    awesome show,first time watching,will watch from now on!...………...cheers from Tuscaloosa,Al.

  • @megansstang
    @megansstang 4 роки тому +3

    Love my Kemper !

  • @tad5920
    @tad5920 4 роки тому +5

    Great example of what the Kemper can do for all of us vintage guys listening on this channel. The Kemper is amazing! (More good news - prices will come down as time passes :)

  • @lopezb
    @lopezb 4 роки тому +1

    GREAT video, great explanations.
    For me, the two are extremely close- but the Vox consistently sounds (much) better- it's more "musical", more beautiful, a more buttery sound. Interesting!

  • @70footer
    @70footer 4 роки тому

    Really Great to have you back !! The Kemper is pretty good, BUT I found 2 that do the same thing better. The Fractal and the Universal Audio Marshall Super Lead , made together with Marshall. Again really great to have you back fellas!

    • @profd65
      @profd65 4 роки тому +3

      Better than basically perfect? Fuck off.

  • @Art-zs6sl
    @Art-zs6sl 4 роки тому

    Kemper? It's vintage now! These guys are truly authentic.

  • @VisualGuy
    @VisualGuy 4 роки тому +3

    Just listening on a cell phone, the live amp recordings had a more presence and a livelier high-end. Not to say that couldn’t be dialed in with the Kemper. I’m sure it could be even closer if not dead on with Adjustments in post prod for recording. Nice video as always. You all inspired all my PAF shootout videos. Keep’em coming. And do another PAF shootout with the Righteous Sound RAF. They deserve some spotlight. I promise you’ll dig.

    • @frantisca
      @frantisca 4 роки тому +1

      I've checked your videos on the Righteous Sound RAF pickups: they sound awesome. Rather than comparing to the Lollars, where one can hear quite a difference, I would say they are the closest you can get to a pair of CustomBuckers, if not the original PAFs (out of range price & rarity). For 300 $ a pair, the Righteous Sound RAF pickups are definitely a very good deal for those in search of the authentic PAF tone. Cheers !

    • @VisualGuy
      @VisualGuy 4 роки тому

      Cool Rene Right on!

  • @bobbyparks801
    @bobbyparks801 4 роки тому

    Gotta say,that Heritage with those pickups with the Vox profiled on the Kemper sound frickin awesome.Thick,sharp.creamy and rawkin.Best tone I have heard through BT headphones.

  • @smellytele9629
    @smellytele9629 4 роки тому

    A really valid point made about "modeling" exposing players to a wide array of amps. I learned I wanted a Plexi-ish amp from using the Plexi plugin I downloaded for my UA Apollo.

  • @marcelpacheco7878
    @marcelpacheco7878 4 роки тому

    Welcome back boys!

  • @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
    @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 4 роки тому

    Had AxeFxII then AxeFxIII for years. Was ok but was always more pleased when plugin on real amp. And one day a had a try at a party as the son of a friend had one. And... it changed my life of guitarist. It’s incredible! No any modeler can achieve this result.
    Now I’m 100% happy, and Overloud TH-U use similar tech

  • @marcelpacheco7878
    @marcelpacheco7878 4 роки тому +1

    Can't wait for the 59 comparison!

  • @roncarter2188
    @roncarter2188 4 роки тому +20

    I have to say that's pretty cool, but you know if I could afford what a Kemper would cost, then I could afford two of my favorite amps and that would be just fine for me.

    • @soysaucehairdye7869
      @soysaucehairdye7869 4 роки тому +1

      I like the kemper because I live in a place where I can't crank a real tubed amp to its optimal volume and the kemper lets me not miss on the goodness of a cranked amp. Its a fun tool to use, but I totally agree with you sentiment.

    • @KelsterVonShredster
      @KelsterVonShredster 4 роки тому +2

      strongly agree, having owned 3 kempers and 3 axe fx ii's

    • @georgekaraspyros3835
      @georgekaraspyros3835 4 роки тому +1

      exactly, and you only really need 1 or 2 great amps...totally pointless to pay all that and not have the real thing

    • @patchesthejaybird8431
      @patchesthejaybird8431 4 роки тому +1

      Ha, yep. I built a tweed deluxe and a tweed super, a couple other 5w SE tube amps, and refurbed an original Dean Markley CD30 all for much less than the Kemper. The Kemper would really be terrific in a small studio where space is limited, and a wide range of tones, and music styles would be recorded by session guitarists. To those who can afford it and want to use it... rock on!

  • @monmixer
    @monmixer Рік тому

    For now I'll give you a like and sub. very informative show for 3 years ago. I'm behind the times. lol I know what a Kemper is though. I am 65 and have worked in live entertainment since before I was an adult in some way. Either playing, mixing, lighting, suund, etc.

  • @tmitz73
    @tmitz73 4 роки тому +2

    You're never too old to Rock Guys!!! How old are ya anyways? My friend is 58 and is still stage diving and taking his pants off on stage! You can't kill Rockn'Roll!

  • @advanceddragonchasing2286
    @advanceddragonchasing2286 4 роки тому

    Watch church boys,,, rockers gonna be driving Kempers after this one.... Great video... Please post those Profiles!!

  • @Nicko30able
    @Nicko30able 4 роки тому +2

    Great show! Thanks for posting. I would like to get in line to purchase the profiles once you decide it is a good thing to do$! (;

  • @D3str0yEviI
    @D3str0yEviI 4 роки тому +3

    Id be all about that AC10 Kemper profile, sounded good! Obviously not as good as the actual amp but pretty dang close ;)

  • @schenker7559
    @schenker7559 4 роки тому

    Happy New Year, guys!

  • @mladengrubelic873
    @mladengrubelic873 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video! Very informative and eye opening. The one thing I dislike about the Kemper is it's Jetsons' looks. Maybe they should enable the thing to give us a holographic projection of something resembling a proper amp. I own a nice tube amp collection (not even close to D&P's, of course) and I became really attached to the things. I'll keep them running as long as I can, because they make me FEEL a certain way. Someone once said when a good tube amp is dialled in just right, the air becomes ELECTRIC. It is a whole sensory experience. It is not just what you hear. I doubt very much digital gadgets will get us that in the near future.

  • @chrisbresh8817
    @chrisbresh8817 4 роки тому

    Pat's toes stole the show. ;') Thanks for the interesting video.

  • @jcserrano1663
    @jcserrano1663 3 роки тому

    Sounds good but the warmth of the real deal is incomparable !!! 😍😍👍👍🤗🤗🎸🎸

  • @auntjenifer7774
    @auntjenifer7774 4 роки тому

    That digital sorcery sounded splendid!

  • @OzziePete1
    @OzziePete1 4 роки тому +6

    I own a Kemper and here's a few observations I have made...
    1. The sound that comes from the Kemper is a recorded type sound, NOT the sound of the am,p if it was right next you. Think of the sound, as what you would hear if playing through an amp and the speakers were in an iso booth and the mic was sending the signal to the Control Room. What you hear is the monitored sound. That will throw some players if they are only used to playing their guitar through an amp that is with them in the room (speakers & all)
    2. Compare that sound against the actual signal chain & on first pass it is close to 95% the same. The two sounds will be different, ever so slightly, BUT if you blindfold tested that, my bet is you couldn't tell which was which in a Control Room playing test...
    3. I am surprised how the Profile responds to playing ..... I have a very nice clean Fender Deluxe Reverb Profile that I use as a pedal platform. But if you dial that Profile up, it breaks up as the volume increases, just like a Fender Deluxe Reverb from that era would. Turn down the volume (either on guitar or Profiler) and it cleans up....
    4. For the travelling musician gear like the Kemper are godsends. Quite a number of touring festival level acts use Kempers or other technology like the AxeFX for their main back line as it reduces transport costs. Acts that are privileged to get promoters chasing them, CAN have the Kempers put into riders on contract and all they have to do is turn up with a USB stick (loaded with their profiles) for their back line sound!
    5. If you are recording and get a unique sound from a signal chain, you can capture that sound and load it onto a USB stick. THEN when you do shows, the recorded sound is just an upload away. No arguing with FOH engineer about how you got that sound in the studio.
    6. Weight. This goes back to transportation.... The Kempers weigh a lot less than an amp head.... At a pinch you can put it in as overhead luggage on an aircraft...
    7. Sound Level Restrictions at a venue. "TURN THAT AMP DOWN" often means the death knell fora good sound, but with the Kemper that is not too much of an issue as the Kemper can be turned down volume wise but still retain the hot amp tone. Send it to FOH/PA and it's still rocking. ALSO, the Kempers aid the philosophy of silent stages.....
    8. In a crowded bar, 400 people watching and dancing to an act, there is no way they could detect you are not using a real amp or a Kemper, if you do the Profile right in the first place. It's that close to the real amp even on first Profile pass....

    • @realgoodmind
      @realgoodmind 4 роки тому

      Thank you for this review and real review of how it works for the guitarist. I have expensive amps and do NOT want to buy another. BUT there are others that I want. I am really considering buying a Kemper and selling all but my most cherished can't live without amp and buying some Britt profiles.

    • @OzziePete1
      @OzziePete1 4 роки тому

      @@realgoodmind Yes Britt Profiles are very good. As are Amp Factory, Michael Wagner & The Tone Junkie....Tone Junkie has an extensive video selection on You Tube to check out, tutorials are very helpful as are the Kemper Official ones.
      I tend to use my Kemper as more of an amp library and just dial up which one I want to use, but there is a lot of tweaking that can be done to the Kemper profile once you do dial it up.... Tweaking will tailor the sound to what you want to hear. You can also, I believe, import commercial I.Rs and reformat them into .kpr profile cabinets for sue within the Kemper system.

    • @simonvanderheijden432
      @simonvanderheijden432 4 роки тому

      @@OzziePete1 Don't forget TopJimi's profiles ;)

  • @mikeoxley9121
    @mikeoxley9121 4 роки тому

    I saw Joe B. once years ago in Apple Valley, MN, outside. He was using the Marshalls then, and had the plexi shields in front of his cabs. But, his guitar was super loud that night, and it actually was hurting our ears. We stuffed TP in our ears, and it didn't really help. That was the loudest concert I had seen, since seeing Deep Purple in the early 70's, who were the loudest band in the World then. Last year I heard a guy use a Kemper live in a club. There was a digital artifact that I didn't like. But, I've watched video's of the new Kemper Stage, and it sounds very good!

  • @Sonicblue1922
    @Sonicblue1922 4 роки тому

    Great show! Would be great if you made that Vox profile available.

  • @johnerodz7
    @johnerodz7 4 роки тому

    Hi I just got the Kemper Stage somehow I lost some effects like Vai wah, chorus presets etc. How can I get them back. Please help. Thanks

  • @geoarthur6593
    @geoarthur6593 4 роки тому +1

    You've crossed over to the dark side lads, it's over .. lol love you guys and still the best on you tube, and, I had amber spirit of 59's n my Les Paul before you lol great show .. I'm tempted .. peace, from N.Ireland .. cheers Doug & Pat.

  • @TempoDrift1480
    @TempoDrift1480 4 роки тому

    Good show fellas.

  • @lousekoya1803
    @lousekoya1803 3 роки тому

    I 'm an amp guy and would never ever use this radio like gear , a JTM45 on top of a 4X12 is a thing of beauty !..Lol
    I think it's nice that you can put a few beers behind the Kemper , refrigerated would be awesome !! Enjoyed the video, well done guys.

  • @corvdb8600
    @corvdb8600 4 роки тому

    I am sorry, I give the thumbs up before watching because I am just glad there's another episode even if it sucks, which doesn't but I wouldn't know because I am gonna watch it now...

  • @saltydog8913
    @saltydog8913 4 роки тому +13

    You should have asked him to post the FREE profile for us so we could all try your amp.

    • @auntjenifer7774
      @auntjenifer7774 4 роки тому

      I figure that's why they did all this.

    • @markinthemix6055
      @markinthemix6055 4 роки тому +1

      I seriously was expecting this to be free profiles for the viewers to try.

    • @TheChicagoTodd
      @TheChicagoTodd 4 роки тому

      @@markinthemix6055 You will find these in the "Pat and Doug" online store, and I think they are having a "First week of the decade" sale.... LOL... ;-)

    • @bubbahotep5439
      @bubbahotep5439 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheChicagoTodd Nothing there about this video or profiles ....

    • @TheChicagoTodd
      @TheChicagoTodd 4 роки тому +1

      @@bubbahotep5439 Actually....I had posted that comment while I was still watching the video and was trying to be funny, in a sarcastic way. The funny thing is, when I got to the end of the video, they actually said they WOULD be profiling some of their amps and WOULD be available for purchase on their site. I'm not a regular to this channel, and of course it would be cool if we were able to get some *free* profiles of hard to obtain vintage amps, which they seem to have a really cool collection of. However, in the end, I wouldn't expect *free*. I'm guessing despite how it may look to the casual viewer, this is actually a business, not just some cool old dudes sitting on their porch shooting the sh*t. :-) Just my opinion of course.

  • @HeniuMysnik
    @HeniuMysnik 2 роки тому

    Hey Guys! Wher did i get the profiles? The Website is gone right? Please help me :)

  • @anthonytye2591
    @anthonytye2591 4 роки тому

    Great to have you back and hear some real guitar playing please do a demo of the JB Norm Burst Epiphone replica as he is a buddy of yours!!

  • @markgrimm3564
    @markgrimm3564 4 роки тому

    when are the profiles going to be up for sale i'm ready to purchase them

  • @jwright8838
    @jwright8838 4 роки тому

    Great sounding amp. Where can I get the AC10 profile?

  • @jasonholt4132
    @jasonholt4132 4 роки тому +1

    Hey guys, when we were hearing the kemper played back, was that run through the same speaker cabinet as the original Vox? Or did you use and FRFR speaker, how were we hearing it?

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +2

      What we're hearing is the direct line out of the Kemper into the recorder which is Pro Tools. We're not hearing any room microphones or camera microphone. The Kemper switches between the mic that is on the speaker cabinet that the Vox is playing through and the Kemper profile. When we do a show and play an amp (which is about always) we record the guitars and voices separately and they are mixed in post production so you never hear any room mics on the guitars if all that makes sense which it doesn't for Pat. D&P

    • @robertwellington2616
      @robertwellington2616 4 роки тому

      The Doug and Pat Show yea and I am not going thru all that. I go thru a guitar cabinet for a reason I’m not going into so it just sounds ok to me. I can make it sound ok with help from a dirt pedal. Maybe some of us who are still young have had neck issues using computers. Not worth the pain. So I have to do what I have to do.

  • @nazmoking3171
    @nazmoking3171 4 роки тому

    Wow Doug and Pat doing a Kemper - far cry from their beloved PAF tests😇

  • @PelicanIslandLabs
    @PelicanIslandLabs 4 роки тому +1

    I thought the both the VOX and later GA40 was very slightly louder than the Kemper profiles. That volume difference masks the tonal difference a fair bit. So, it's hard to know how much of the dynamic difference was due to the volume difference.
    Regardless, the Kemper did pretty well ...................... probably close enough for a recording.

  • @markinthemix6055
    @markinthemix6055 4 роки тому +1

    We need a good "link" to the website and options to get the Doug and Pat merchandise and hopefully some cool profiles. The site seems UNSECURE

  • @jeffbenson6102
    @jeffbenson6102 4 роки тому +6

    Make sure that you get him to set the clock on your VCR while he's there.

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +6

      He also fixed a toaster we had. Who knew? D&P

    • @cardbored_
      @cardbored_ 3 роки тому

      @@DFraserHomes LOL

  • @nicolasrivera5310
    @nicolasrivera5310 4 роки тому

    amazing. Where did you guys shared the profile files?

  • @morgathanify
    @morgathanify 4 роки тому

    Refining the profile also 'tunes' it to whatever guitar you use so you kinda lock it in to that specific instrument rather than just have it be a general profile of the amp.

  • @gtr1487
    @gtr1487 4 роки тому +3

    “It’s evil almost” Hahahahahaha. Too funny.

  • @donharrold1375
    @donharrold1375 3 роки тому

    The way Line 6 works is that they created a digital model for each of the components found in a typical amplifier (resistors, capacitors, valves etc). They then built these components into amp models following the engineering schematics for all of the well known amps. The guitar signal goes through a digital replica of the signal path through each amp giving a perfect replica and response in theory.

  • @SoundFriendly
    @SoundFriendly 4 роки тому

    That GA40 profile is killer too. Do you have it on Rig Exchange ?

  • @patchesthejaybird8431
    @patchesthejaybird8431 4 роки тому

    Wow, no new videos in awhile. Between the blindfold video and this Kemper video, the chase for vintage tone is ended? Wow, these videos are like coffin nails. But, no worries, I still enjoy tube amps, vintage Les Paul's, PAF pickups and various PAF replicas. Hope to see you two in future videos.

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому

      Well, we have to admit that we're slow at getting the videos done but more are on the way. We will be bouncing around between old/new LP comparisons and some other stuff we can't remember right now but all good. D&P

    • @patchesthejaybird8431
      @patchesthejaybird8431 4 роки тому

      @@DFraserHomes Thanks for the reply. I have really enjoyed all of your videos that I have watched so far. You guys are awesome! Stay healthy, and self isolate in your guitar room!

  • @filthypappy3568
    @filthypappy3568 4 роки тому

    Omg, lol ...what an intro! You guys!

  • @jimmcdougall9973
    @jimmcdougall9973 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, I found a show that moves at my speed, and age group 😉

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac 4 роки тому

    Lots of talk of "clipping" when I think the more appropriate word might be compressing or squashing. Clipping is mainly a solid state and a nasty thing. Basically clipping implies cutting off dead and at its extreme making the wave form square wave.
    I'm still very much looking forward to the Fender Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb test.

  • @mjr2470
    @mjr2470 4 роки тому

    Hey Pat, whats in that pipe? Did you grow it?

  • @todd.goslin6190
    @todd.goslin6190 4 роки тому +1

    Does Kemper make a tube model?

  • @angelobouhoutsos3060
    @angelobouhoutsos3060 4 роки тому

    Hey Doug! How are you! Great stuff, how does your ac 10 sound without the mod- tubes?

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому

      The AC10 sounds about the same with the pre tubes switched but it gets loud faster and that has an affect on the tone circuit. In our show on the AC10 where we had three of them they all had a different tube configuration so it's worth checking out in case you haven't. D&P

  • @michaelwu7419
    @michaelwu7419 4 роки тому

    Pretty dam similar. I think the kemper is a no brainer for me... I want one

  • @emmoiv
    @emmoiv 4 роки тому

    Doug, what kind of picks do you use? And what's your volume and tone knob range you use on these beauties? Thank you Doug and Pat for your offerings.

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому

      Doug uses medium gauge hard plastic picks that say "Cool" on them, white and black and they both have a raised surface that makes them easier to grip. The volume and tone on the guitars is tone at 10 unless stated, guitars between 8-10. If that's what you mean. D&P

    • @emmoiv
      @emmoiv 4 роки тому

      @@DFraserHomes It is, I appreciate it.

  • @cardbored_
    @cardbored_ 3 роки тому

    I've had my Kemper power Rack for 2 years. I've spent hundreds on profiles from Mbritt, Tone Junkies and Sinmix. The Kemper sounds great and it's an amazing tool, but it's also sort of like expensive hospital equipment, it's too clinical at times. I just bought a Friedman head and re-built my pedalboard because I missed the feel of "real" amps. The Kemper (for me) shines as a recording tool, but for writing and inspiration I had to go back to "real" amps and pedals. I just wasn't inspired to play when I tried going exclusive Kemper. I do bring my Kemper Power Rack to live gigs though too along with my pedalboard, it's a lot lighter and I don't have to worry as much if it gets stolen compared to my expensive heads and vintage amps.

  • @69strat87
    @69strat87 4 роки тому

    Great demo guys.
    Positive note: Better understanding of how the Kemper works now...😀
    Negative note: Now I’m gonna have to buy one of these to model all my Marshall Amps🤨
    Positive note: No risk of blowing a transformer😀
    Negative note: Now I’m gonna have to buy one of these😃

  • @trevenarj
    @trevenarj 4 роки тому

    The live amps sound a bit more "open" to me, but I suspect the profile can be tweaked in a recording situation to narrow the gap. Impressive technology. I don't find that I would have the need to a variety of profiles when playing out live. One good amp is enough for me.

  • @bradc32
    @bradc32 4 роки тому

    kemper looks and sounds great.im hearing the kemper adds compression compared to live amp? just my opinion...from my time playing gigs over the years these newer amps don't last the long haul like point to point amps and when they go it takes longer to get em going again
    good to see something a little different

  • @simonvanderheijden432
    @simonvanderheijden432 4 роки тому

    I would LOVE to pay for this profile. Is it for sale yet, or will it be for sale??

  • @macgrory
    @macgrory 4 роки тому

    Jeez! That was an eye opener. Close enough for me! I can see why they are so popular now, but too many buttons for me. I can't even figure out how to use a 1 button looper, how the hell would I ever get along with this thing?

  • @albertceva1526
    @albertceva1526 4 роки тому +2

    Okay, men. How about your opinions on the inexpensive Boss Katana Mark Two amp?

    • @mjr2470
      @mjr2470 4 роки тому

      I have a katana air....Its really not bad, but for the price..... I used to have a small Vox that plugged into your laptop and that thing was awesome. sadly Vox never kept up with updates with windows and its now in the landfill. (RIP)

  • @gpeterson999
    @gpeterson999 4 роки тому

    I'm ready to buy your profiles when you do them.

  • @ivanrohal7489
    @ivanrohal7489 4 роки тому

    I am surprised by how big the difference between the original and profile is. BTW I can not decide which one is nicer...

  • @toddflowers8052
    @toddflowers8052 4 роки тому

    From one "vintage" guitarist to a pair of them , good to see you back at it ! 😎🎸
    I wonder how many new amps are bought and returned after the owner captures it's profile ? I think it is an issue, thoughts?

    • @Voodooradio1
      @Voodooradio1 4 роки тому

      Its not an issue. I use the AX8 (as well as being a tube amp owner/lover), and the amount of profiles readily available is staggering. Users can also share the profiles that they create with their own tube amps on the AXexchange. There would be no need to go out and buy the physical amp just for the purpose of profiling it. It has already been done with just about any amp you can think of, 7 ways from Sunday.

    • @toddflowers8052
      @toddflowers8052 4 роки тому

      @@Voodooradio1 It was when they first came out according to the 2 places I by my gear from .

  • @DennyBob521
    @DennyBob521 4 роки тому +3

    I'm an old tube guy who adores my Kemper. I want a set of profiles of the AC-10 SRT . please? Please?

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +6

      We will do our profiles in February after our resident hipster Jeremie (with the Kemper) is back from the NAMM Show in LA with his music store buddies from Five Star Guitars. D&P

    • @DennyBob521
      @DennyBob521 4 роки тому

      Thanks guys!
      To me, the cool thing about a Kemper is that it’s so close to the real thing, so I can play through a Dumble, a Jim Kelley, and in the future 🤞a Vox AC-10 SRT, amps that I can’t afford (or lift in some cases).
      In live performance, I can get the sound of a mic’d amp, recorded in a nice studio, straight to the board via XLR.

  • @plexibreath
    @plexibreath 4 роки тому +14

    I thought they'd sound the same, but the real amp sounds more percussive. It has more punch.

    • @ericsfc1ea.16
      @ericsfc1ea.16 4 роки тому +2

      More dynamics w/o making any adjustments, more bloom.

    • @thmmke6926
      @thmmke6926 4 роки тому +3

      Your right
      and they always will

    • @robertwellington2616
      @robertwellington2616 4 роки тому +2

      John Kelley Brown real amps feel different too. Sound better imo too. At least at my place.

    • @Brutalgruve
      @Brutalgruve 4 роки тому +1

      Remember, you are listening through UA-cam, prob on computer speakers. There is a reason so many premier studios are implementing these in projects. A lot of the professional generated profiles sound dead on

    • @plexibreath
      @plexibreath 4 роки тому

      @@Brutalgruve You are making assumptions.
      I'm using the computer I mix down music with, it's attached to a pair of HR824 mix down monitors through an Apogee Element 46 interface.
      While indeed I'm listening through UA-cam, both the real amp as well as the Kemper are at the same UA-cam disadvantage. So this *is* an apples to apples comparison. And yet myself and others can clearly hear the difference. Are you really not able to hear the difference? Maybe you should get better speakers.
      I've gotten great tones out of modeling software, such that without the real thing next to it, it's hard to know the difference, but right next to the real thing, the differences become obvious, as is the case in this video. What I find the biggest difference between real amps and modeling amps is that modeling amps sound like a real amp after it's been through the mixing process, but can't replicate the tone of a real amp in the room with a real amp live. I've considered getting something like a Kemper for live gigs so I don't have to drag around a heavy amp. Watching this video I was hoping this was the product that would come close enough, unfortunately it didn't. I don't think it can't be done, but we are at least five years from that happening. So give a closer listen to the real amp vs the Emperor's New Amp, this time not using computer monitors, use professional mix down monitors or a pair of headphones along the lines of Sennheiser HD650s. I'm sure your ears will pick out these differences as well.

  • @vidsforsquids
    @vidsforsquids 4 роки тому

    That’s a great amp ! The Kemper captured it at about 75-80%

  • @documentingordinarythoughts
    @documentingordinarythoughts 4 роки тому +18

    You guys should profile all of your amps and sell an “old school pack” and take some good money from us youngsters !

    • @tejeguitar
      @tejeguitar 2 роки тому +1

      I'm buying it, no second thoughts about it.

  • @mcrestwood7378
    @mcrestwood7378 4 роки тому

    Geezers, where u guys been?trust yous are well! knew a guy that loved all that kemper tech stuff,too many knobs..i still love the chance factor of a tube amp plus we all know that the muse must come from within.Oscar still around?hope so.

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому

      Oscar resides in a secret location climate controlled luxury suite. We hear it's nice. D&P

  • @richardmorris363
    @richardmorris363 4 роки тому +3

    Great show. When Doug asks “Now, am I playin thru the Kemper?” That’s very telling. ... Good thing you were able to capture profiles of your old amps. Because they will die someday.

    • @TempoDrift1480
      @TempoDrift1480 4 роки тому +1

      Not to a point you can restore them.

    • @c.p.1589
      @c.p.1589 4 роки тому +2

      Some day about 50yrs after the Kemper is landfill.

  • @wingee
    @wingee 4 роки тому

    What are they hearing the amp and profiles through? I'm assuming the cab is micced in another room

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +2

      We are listening through the reference monitors which are vintage (of course) Yamaha NS10's. The Kemper is feeding our Pro Tools recording set up and what we are listing to in the show is that recording. We did not run the Kemper into another amplifier which would actually be quite interesting too. D&P

    • @wingee
      @wingee 4 роки тому

      @@DFraserHomes I would be interested to see what you thought of the Kemper into a power amp into a cab to see how it compares to a real amp that way. Thanks for the video and reply guys

  • @revelry1969
    @revelry1969 4 роки тому

    So damn close. The difference seems really small. How did it feel to play? One preferable over the other? Are you gonna dump your tube amps? Still awaiting that Supro video 👍🏻.

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +1

      We won't be dumping any of our tube amps. Like most people who watch our channel we think of great amps and guitars as alive entities. They are just waiting for us to get better to discover what they can do and we feel this should never stop because for us it never has. The Kemper needs these amps to make sounds but the sounds it profiles capture what the microphone captures and there are a lot of variations there. When you play through the good amps live the variations come from your fingers and how much you practice. The Kemper is a tool for a guitar player like anything else. The feel was acceptable and we can see many uses for it relative to what your musical activities are (session player/jam with your friends/club player/touring major dude) and your own individual standards and tastes. Supros: now that Doug is back maybe we can get to those. He needs to take this a bit more seriously. D&P

    • @revelry1969
      @revelry1969 4 роки тому

      The Doug and Pat Show concur 😀

  • @seanmudge7546
    @seanmudge7546 4 роки тому

    i see that Marshall 2061(x?) and 2x12 sitting behind you guys. It's pretty rare amps have you guys even done a show featuring that at all?

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +1

      We used it in our very first show about seven years ago comparing the Heritage with WCR pickups (and 250K treble sucking pots) to Oscar and Jayne. We used both the Vox AC10 SRT and that Marshall. D&P

    • @seanmudge7546
      @seanmudge7546 4 роки тому

      Thanks will have a listen.

  • @voxsupreme
    @voxsupreme 4 роки тому

    Wow - once again Your show is just the best! I just wonder: How old are You guys? Are You like me, 70 years and still so much in love with Vox amps, and of course old Gibsons and Fenders ..? PS Doug´s guitar playing is mind bending original, although he plays standardy riffs, and yet not. I get goose bumps everytime he starts his slow climb along the fretbord from a Fat E-string to a Howling high E, filled with intricate turns and fast runs DOWNWARDS, which really is unusual. Gosh! What is the inspiration to Your playing - or is it just coming from inside yourself? Anyway - I´m flabbergasted ... Thanx from Sweden!

    • @DFraserHomes
      @DFraserHomes  4 роки тому +1

      Doug is understandably completely flattered by your comments on his playing as we both are for the show comment. We won't say how old we are but like you we continue to love guitars, amps, playing them and talking about them and now we get to world wide, no age limit here. D&P

  • @donkeevney
    @donkeevney 2 роки тому

    Do you ever light the pipe ?

  • @frederickthompson8686
    @frederickthompson8686 2 роки тому

    Once you get beyond the fact that these two stocking capped-dudes look like out-of-work elves, the channel offers up some useful commentary. This Profile segment is very well done. Thanks guys for the insights into how tech can change the music world in a good way...