The Doug and Pat Show - Henry SRT+ and the Nerdville Road Trip
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2019
- It was a big month for D&P with a road trip to LA for the NAMM Show, vintage guitar show and a trip to Nerdville with Joe Bonamassa. Wait, we're not done..we also check out the Henry SRT+ clone of our vintage Vox AC10 SRT. How close is it? You might be surprised. Demos start at 12:43 and it goes out of sync at 50:30, sorry about that (thanks You Tube). Take note: D&P WILL BE ON VACATION UNTIL JULY, or at least Doug will. As always, NO ADS, WE HATE ADS! It's just us so let's get on with it.
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They gonna be busy building those SRT Henry clones thanks to you Doug. A very good thing.
Wow! That Henry guy deserves a medal for recreating this amazing rig! Nails the sound of the original and those simple mods make it even better. Sounds a bit too clean without the Pat & Doug mod. Also I must say that Doug’s Heritage LP is sounding fantastic with those Amber spirit of 59 pups! Congrats on another great episode
tonebender69 thanks so much, appreciate it!! I suggest the 12ax7 for straight-in playing, and the au7 for a better pedal platform. Even with the ax7, the “Clean” mode works great with OD & fuzz, too.
Where are you Doug and Pat? IS ANYBODY MISSING THEM?
glorious tones abound! thanks guys.
Thanks D&P now I'm GASing for a Henry SRT + ! You guys are enablers ! ;-)
D&P this is like a public service announcement, thanks for your efforts bringing the AC10 SRT closer to human beings, the folks in England think we have gone nuts
not sure if I'm having flash backs from too much 70's usage, but somehow the video got wacky on my end & you fellows looked like you were in a bad foreign movie. your voices were running a head of your lip movements. it was great. or just some funky mix-down... Loved the Henry SRT ! thnx Doug, thnx Pat
It was great to see you guys at the World Guitar Show! Kudos to Heritage and of course Henry Amplification. Sweet sweet tones as usual. 👊🤠🍀🎶
I alway love the videos ....always fun to watch the whole video..great info
Great show as always! I wish you could do a weekly show. I'm always left wanting more! 😉
Woah great tones! Good to see ye back! Greetings from Galway, Ireland!
Way to put that amp through its paces, and kudos to the builder for having sussed out those features which made your AC-10 do what it does...this was a very rewarding video, guys...hope the COVID-19 has stayed away from your doors...
Please come back, Doug and Pat🎸Sorry that is the only guitar Emoji that there is🙂
Thanks Doug and Pat. Good job as usual... You must have had a blast in Nerdville.
I can't afford the original SRT but perhaps this is something I could afford. Great video as always guys. Love the channel.
Awesome ! Love the demo great sounding amp !!!
I made it all the way to 20:39 in the video and, yep there it is. Henry has the SRT nailed! It has everything there, no doubt... The Weber sounds real nice, too. It sure has a lot of character!... Ok wow the D & P mod is killer! Thanks guys for posting this, killer playing, killer amp!
Richard Ruth thanks for the kind words Richard, appreciate it!!
Finally! at 35:45 it nails the original IMO. Glad someone recreated this amp. Great job on the amp and the video.
Great video as always ... thanks guys from Chris in South Wales UK.
Awesome work, cheers from Australia mate!
Love your show!! Always fun and helpful. You guys turned me on to Gibson amps. Now have a 1940s BR-6F that I restored and modded. Love the amp and the field coil speaker. Super cool! The AC10 SRT certainly is a unique amp from circuit perspective. Planning to build something like this in the future.
Even though pat is my long lost dad and I think the crap is cool.I find myself back yet again to steal your licks Doug. THANK ALOT!!! I use to be Happy! I miss my Dad and I cant get away from your do det t d licks
Sweet! Great chops too
That is one fantastic sounding amp!!
Almost dead on with the 12AX7. Like it!
Yes !!!!!!! A new video from my favorite guitar Grandpa's 😉😄😋
Hey Doug & Pat, I watched your Nerdville Vid and was so impressed by the Henry SRT+, (and no I dont need another amp!) and look at what you guys have gone and done! You made me go and spend my hard earned money on a Henry SRT+ (with the Doug & Pat Mod) which arrived in Geelong Victoria Australia yesterday! Apparently I am the 1st Downunder Customer to get one. JB is great to deal with and he sold me a Shop Demo Amp Head which looks like it was stolen from a 1960's Gypsy Caravan due to the unusual groovy colors used to decorate the amp. Real Old School for sure! (is there a way to post a pic here?) Anyway I plugged her into 240V (apparently a simple mod by JB) and into my Marshall 100W Tweed Quad-Box with 4x25W Greenbacks) along with my 2014 Gibson LP R9 and turned it on. Not knowing what to expect, I hit the strings and BANG, this amp came to life with a dynamic wave of sound that nearly bowled me over that was pure joy!! It reacted to my playing , soft with the pick the sound was pure and clean and when I dug it in (not not you Doug) it snarled at me like a crocodile jumping out of the river and into my face!! Man, I have played a lot of amps, fenders, marshalls, yamahas, trainwrecks, vox's, etc but the Henry is in a Class of its own. I have been playing my Marshall 1987X Amp (modded by Dave Ulbrick) which is really nice but I really like the Henry sound more and It is pretty loyal as far as cloning the Vox AC10 SRT. Another satisfied customer...thanks Doug and Ted, now you owe me a lot of money, ok, just send me a XXL T-shirt..hahaha..no, really..
My second mistake was going to the Henry Amplification website. Now comes the plotting, scheming, wheeling, dealing and figuring out an end run past the girlfriend.
That amp sounds amazing.
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Nice to see you two are still alive. But, one is far more alive than the other,
Glad you guys made it back safe.
Those have, stock, 1-12Ax7 for V1. The rest are suppose to be 12AU7’s for the preamp. Pat, If I recalls your’s has 12AX7’s for all the preamp valves. A 12AX7 has a lot more gain than a 12AU7 by a factor of 40( I believe) a 12AX7 has a gain factor of 100%. Thanks for the mention guys! Don B.
That amp sounds dam good!!!
Mark Wright thanks Mark!!
Those amber pickups sounds great!
I ordered one w Doug & Pat mod and have to say its pretty sweet. Actually a lot more versatile than this video would suggest (teles, strats)
JP is a pleasure to work with as well
Thanks Doug and Pat!!!!
Great Vid guys!! JP makes great Stuff!!!
tmitz73 thanks man, appreciate that!
@@Henryamps For Sure Bruddah!!! I def got a Henry Amp or two on my wishlist!!
Kuddo's to Henry for building a fine amp , Thanks Doug and Pat !
The change of speakers was astonishing. Worlds apart. Speakers imho are about 50% of the overall tone of an amp. The 12ax7 mod is cool for the thicker distortion, but the mojo is gone. Swapping preamp tubes without circuit compensation is a give and take thing.
great show. cheers
Just skip to 34:06 if you’re interested in the AC-10 comparison. It definitely needed the 12AX7 and the extra treble from the tone control that he gave it just before that, which is what Doug kept trying to say without saying it bluntly. That tone is a dead ringer to their original to my ears. Sounds glorious.
damn, it's about time. just kidding, glad to finally get it! Todd from KY
Henry amps is about 10 miles from me and I've spoken to him about trying this out but got hit with pneumonia, so I'm listening hard,
Love the D&P mod.
I love you old farts. Phil hasn’t done that show in years though. Great show
Love this amp......
Wow. I really like the Henry through the Weber.
I’m glad you found these guys joe b
I like that Henry srt+ amp. It's very similar to the Vox AC10 SRT. Im listening through phones. I think I can get a better representation of the difference in sound that way. For me theres not a lot between the two amps, although I did prefer the Vox AC10 SRT. Also, I was impressed by the Weber ceramic speaker. Was better than I expected. The Heritage H150 guitar youre playing is a beautiful sounding instrument. In the end, my opinión is that you can not go far wrong with the equipment youre playing but the lesson I took from this is.. that I feel it's the player who is responsible for wheather you get a good sound or not from the equipment youre playing. A bad player on the same equipment will still sound bad. You made that equipment sound great and that's not something everyone can do. I enjoyed the video and music as always.. Thanks Pat and Doug.
From what I heard before, JP does an awesome job with his Henry Amplification line. This one is confirming it. Together with the Heritage/Amber PU's, it sounds to my ear like the tone in the Beano album, with just a bit less pearcing frequencies in the treble area. Which is good ! Weber is OK, but nothing to compare with the couple of 65' Vox speakers. 12AU gives you lots of more headroom, but the 12AX7 allows you to rise quicker in the crunch tones. You eventually can try a 5751 as an alternative \m/ P.S.: nice upgraded blue Volkswagen you've got there ;-) Have a nice break, see you in July :)
Cool Rene thanks man, really appreciate that!! We’re also digging the WGS Blackhawk Alnico 12” lately, a little closer to the Vox ‘65 sound.
So you guys ever coming back,hope all is well
I really can't afford any of this vintage vox stuff or vintage Gibson's so I use a couple pedals for tone and drive, I use a vox flat 4 boost pedal (really similar to top boost circuit) and then run the Klon klone into that for serious Brian may laser distortion and run that into a crate vintage club 50 2X12 combo bone stock and it's a thrill that I haven't been able to get out of any other amp, it's my vox tone I guess since I don't have REAL vox amps !??! BTW the guitars I use most lately are a new gretsch jet club in silver and CVC telecaster with STL Duncan's and it's marvelous !!!! Thanks again for the cool tones and fun times !
I was enamored by the AC10srt tones from your show. Glad to see someone is producing a modern take on it. We can't trust Vox to make quality amps anymore it seems. :(
Great we finally got a new video. I got the Hat and the long sleeved T. .. I wore them into my local guitar shop and was met with blank stares.. 😂🤣
We are almost totally unknown in the local stores in our own town. These are the stores with young people selling new guitars looking at their phones. A vintage show is something else, we found our like mind people there and had a great time talking gear. D&P
@@DFraserHomes The old farts in my local shop are just jaded.. I don't think they even like guitars anymore.. just force of habit for them.. but yeah that orange county show must be a real treat! Cheers!
very cool! i think i prefer the stock 12au config and would use a clean boost to get to "mod mode". its nice they aren't gouging on the price...the head is $1600...not bad for a hand made boutique thats made in the usa.
Doug!! Great to see you pop up on UA-cam! Your former student here from South Georgia!!! We need to hook up again sometime! Are you ever back down this way at all? I do a little of the UA-cam’s myself!!!
I dont want to be a wet blanket, but I think most of the tone in that amp is in Doug's very skilled hands. The very first episode he played through the ac10 and a Marshall 2061, but sounded very similar IMO. I just dont want a bunch of people buying this amp just to find out they sound like themselves. Sounds like the same thing Phil X did with the evil robot.
By the way, I met Doug and Pat at the vintage show. great guys!!!
Thanks Brian, this comment is important and correct but we also think that our viewers are aware that the fingers are where it starts for great tone. The assumption we're making at this point in our show's history is if you hear these sounds in your head and find them here on this channel with Doug doing the demos then you have most of what you need to achieve that tone. But you can't leave anything out (player/guitar/speakers/pickups etc) or you will end up where Brian described above. We also think the Henry has more of that kind of mojo we get in our demos using the Vox than the Marshall, at least in our studio live. We know the Marshall is a great amp. It's just not the sound we hear in our heads. D&P
Finally!!! The clones.sounds gooood!i bet the clean is just nfb. Voxes were known for 0 nfb just a wide open circuit. Rumor has it that the voxes were copies of an unnamed gibson amp from the fifties.the weber sounds good but a little raw. I bet the alnico blue or silver bell from weber are great clones of those 65 celestions
Thanks! No NFB in these... the clean is like having a low gain input, but on a switch to make it easier.
So i was comming home from a long cold ride on my bike,i got about 15 miles from home and my Doug and Pat hat flew off my head as i gass choked the bike. It was dark,cold i felt all alone al at once. I went home upset drank myself to sleep. I woke up tossing and turning repeating " i want to make Doug and pat rich iwant to....." unable to sleep, flash light in hand i road back. Im pleased to tell yall my ride back was warm and snuggly my head adorn with the likeness of Doug and Pat.
You seriously rock Sir. Thanks for that. D&P
@@DFraserHomes thank you good sirs
I need a Fender Dual Professional prototype in MY kitchen !
Me too ! But I settle for a little crate GX 15R solid state amp with a tremolo and phase 90 clone pedals for atmosphere and it sounded great yesterday playing on my back porch with the amp on the kitchen turned up to 7 it sounded like my dad's old deluxe from the 60's which surpassed my expectations greatly !! What ever you use just keep on rocking and I will do the same for the younger generations to be inheriting the guitars from elders on down !!!!
Hey guys, I know you must get a lot of requests for doing a specific demo but several years ago I was gifted a Vox inspired Ugly 18. Unlike some other "inspired by" amps the Ugly 18 does not have a 'verb or a trem but what it has is a dead simple tone and volume layout. It utilizes two volume knobs and two volume inputs that you can bridge with "y" cable like some Marshalls. One volume bypasses the tone control while the other is connected to a master tone and you can blend the two "channels" by raising and lowering the volume knobs. While it's not a bang-on Vox clone I think it fits into the kind of tonal range you guys usually play with.
I probably cant afford one but that amp sound great on every setting. Im just were you are trading speakers got to go... ok first sound ..not as good but still very good
Interesting that you should mention 8 to 10 on the controls. Most people do not realise that commercial mass produced rotary potentiometers have neutral zones at either end of the track where the connections are made. The carbon tracks are flashed with a metal film so that the riveted end terminals make good contact. As a result most pots don't change at all for the first and last several degrees of their rotation. It does vary, depending on the manufacture of the pot, but these neutral zones can be as much as 30 degrees of the rotation at either end (in a total rotation of 300 degrees). That's an astounding total of 60 degrees rotation that do absolutely nothing. On a 0 to 10 pot knob at least 0 to 1 and 9 to 10 do nothing.
12:52 Vox SRT/silver speakers Demo
13:35 Playing Example #1
15:59 Playing Example #2
18:07 Henry SRT+ Original Setting
18:55 Playing Example
19:34 Low-cut Setting
20:37 Volume + Treble Maxed
This oughta be a fun amp to try with different preamp tubes. An NOS 5751 will drop the gain compared to a 12AX7, a 12AT7 a bit more still (most AT7s aren’t intended for V1 or even V2 gain stages but the current Electro-Harmonix long plate version sounds really good), etc. I’d probably start with a 12AY7 in the second preamp tube spot…more gain than the stock AU7 but should be less compressed than the higher gain types.
Can you guys suggest what you think might be a good 10” speaker upgrade for a newer AC-10 Combo?
Shout out for Weber Silver Bells love mine.
Good morning guys, Mick, in Eureka
Love the show guys.
The SRT Henry sounds great. Does this and the Vox SRT sound similar to your Marshall 1974 ? The Marshall has a very similar valve layout etc.
It sounds similar without the Vox top end and harmonics that come with it. D&P
What are the period correct tubes for this vox,name brand of tubes? I have a henry would luv to put nos,tubes in it I can find them.thanks Doug and pat.
Hello D&P, How do you compare the Heritage to the R7's and R9's you've played on the show? There's a great debate on if a Heritage is as good as the Gibson reissues. I'm not trying to get you involved but I know you have a lot of experience on the matter. I personally own a Heritage Goldtop H-150 and think that it does hold up to the reissues that I've played. Thoughts?
Wow! It looks like someone finally may have captured the elusive magic of the "Vox Mystery Amp." Many have tried to do this and have failed, but I think this one is actually pretty spot-on. What do you guys think? I may have to get one.
Allen Arnold thanks Allen, appreciate the kind words! It was a labor of love
I just wanted to say that I was very happy to find your UA-cam channel. I am very impressed by the fact that you have been promoting quite a few boutique pickup companies. I have a request. It is all good and well if someone has the money to fork out 4 to 6 hundred dollars for a pickup upgrade but many musicians as you know might not have the money for such a purchase. For example, what about the guy who has a Epiphone LP or cheaper Gibson Tribute or Studio Guitar who wants that PAF sound. Would it be possible to do shoot out of some of the mainstream production PAF style pickups? For example, it would be very cool to hear what a DiMarzio 36th Anniversary, Seymore Duncan Perly Gates or similar would sound like in comparison to Oscar or higher end boutique pups.
We get what you're saying and we have done a few with good results such as the Duncan Antiquity and Lollar Imperials and a number of small makers who are reasonable. But bottom line for us is we are going after the real deal and in our case it's the 1958 Les Paul known as Oscar. Relatively speaking the cost of a set of Duncan Antiquities pales in comparison to a real "burst" or even a real PAF or early patent pickup. We are finding some amazing sounding PAF clones that are expensive (for some reason) and have also found that the really low priced stuff doesn't do it for us. As always, it's a matter of your instrument, amp, pickups and player. Find a set of used Duncans and that should be a good start. D&P
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Thanks. You are absolutely correct. There are a lot of factors involving the sound of any given guitar. I come from the same era as you when you could pick up ten different guitars of the same model and they would be very different. Remember the days of the Fender and Gibson camps? There might be an oddball Gretch, Rickenbacker, or Dan Electro player. I was a Fender guy. Lol. Anyways,. I just wanted to say that I recently bought my first Les Paul. It only took 45 years.... Your show is invaluable. It is great to learn and hear the nuances of these vintage LPs and the like from players like the two of you who have been playing them for decades. Keep up the good work! I did want to ask. What are your opinions regarding the 2019 Gibson Heritage '60s' and '50s' series guitars?
@@plsnowden We will be reviewing those new reissues as soon as the local music store Five Star Guitar gets them in. Should be big fun. D&P
More ballsy with the 12AX7.
Great sounding Henry. But not an exact clone. Similar. I think it sounds a bit more powerful....sounds great
Question. What pots caps ect are currently in the heritage? The amber spirt of 59 picks seem to sound much closer than most. How much of that tone is pickups and how much is wiring harness??
Dan, in our ever changing Heritage H150 there are currently VIP pots that have been manufactured to the original Centralab spec, they measure about 515K. A vintage bumblebee cap in the bridge and a newer silver type cap in the neck. Those and the Amber Spirit of '59 pickups sound pretty good to us. D&P
@@DFraserHomes I've been watching your show since the first episode and I got to say I think that yeah that's as close as you've ever gotten in my humble opinion so at some point I may have to pull out the electronics that are in my guitar which is not stock but it's a 2016 R9 and see if I can get closer to thee
I know this is probably blasphemy but any chance to hear a Eastman SB59/v through the VOX AC10 SRT compared to the 59 lp and the Heritage?
The vox still has the mojo but the Henry will get the mjo
I think Doug could make a plle of compressed turds attached to a tree limb sound great!!Any chance of you guys using an Eastwood Stormbird,Epiphone Korina Explorer(the latest version),Or an Epiphone sunburst Firebird in one of your videos?I can't get enough of your videos,wish you could make more!! Thanks
I know you guys like that Vox amp, but as everyone knows, the true PAF tone that everyone's looking for, is through a 5F1 Champ amp. Can you demo your pickups through a Champ? I'd like to hear Oscar through a Champ.
Doug, Pat. What’s your take on bigamy’s in Les Pauls?
how much of the tone is from the speakers though?
You gotta wonder what the hell Vox is doing... they're out to lunch on this amp.
Whomever ends up with this amp has to realize that the output transform needs a good 20 hours to open up and break-in. The original JMI that that you have probably has 100’s of hours of playing time on it.
You're right, the AC10 has been used regularly by Doug since 1985, a lot in clubs and in recording studios so it's broken in. D&P
The Doug and Pat Show: Probably sounds amazing by comparison.. the new one will after a few months..
Anybody else wonder where these old farts have been for the past six months?
I hope everything's okay
They'll be back. Doug went to Europe, and Pat was traveling as well. Hopefully they'll be uploading a new show soon!
Can't buy that SRt amp since I am over here In Europe, but I always wanted to plug in a 59 into a Cayman and see how it sounds?
we can do 240v for Europe, no problem!
@@Henryamps great idea..let me go and check your page!...you do customized amps for all purpose? So 6L6 instead of 84s..?
RV EUROPE ON TOUR sure, we could do anything you’d like
A little more trebly and not as fat sounding as the original, but still a good amp. Even if the circuit and components were exactly the same, the aging of the components changes the sound.
JP makes some great amps....
Raimondi Custom Guitars thanks so much!! Appreciate that
Low Cut setting + Weber Ceramic was the best tone for me - don't really like the spongyness/soft low-end of the vintage alnicos
Love the show but why didn't you demo the Henry SRT through the Vox cab? From what I was hearing, the AC10 SRT sounded more open (which I like) and the Henry SRT+ sounds more compressed but then again I've got cheap computer speakers and both my ears are 69 years old. Any chance of a Top Gear style Corvair v Cayman, rear engine comparison, to finally prove that old is always better than new. Maybe play some Robert Johnson licks while sat on the Porsche?
If by the Vox cabinet you mean the one we run the AC10 through, we actually did run the Henry through it. It's important to make a level playing field and that was the first thing you heard from the Henry. Then through the Weber speaker. Doug had a Corvair back in the seventies, not much is going to happen there. D&P
Thanks. I must have been in a kerfuffle yesterday (or maybe I dozed off), because I missed the whole Henry/vintage Celestions bit. The Henry sounds great through the vintage celestions.
Doug's 'mocker' comment made me chuckle. Back in my yoof I had rocker mates and I had mod mates. I rode motorbikes and berated scooters but wore clothes that were more mod than rocker, because they attracted a better class of bird (can I still say that?). We were labeled 'mockers'.
Hey guys, will yous PLEASE, PURTY PLEASE do a review on the VIPots. You already tried their pickups, the LOVERS set, but I would really like to know what you’d think about their pots. Which are supposed to be near-exact replacements/replicas of the old CentraLab pots that are SO revered. I have a 4-pot set of them, and I feel they are amazing, but like many people that watch your videos, I’ve never played a guitar with the original CentraLabs. Let alone real PAF’s, or a real ‘burst. Thus is why I enjoy your videos so much. But, I would really like to know what you think about those pots. Hopefully you guys will do a video on them. Maybe: “Wiring harness: Fact or Fiction II”!lol just a thought. Thanks!
We do have a quartet of the VIP pots in the Heritage H150 and we have to say we think they're great. Good feel, correct taper so yeah! The owner of VIP (Sebastian) does good work and is a dedicated tone head. D&P
UA-cam Algo is sending this video to more people in the UK than in the US where you are making the videos from!?!
We're in Portland, Oregon USA. We have no idea why this would be. D&P
I like your mod but it makes the wound strings muddy. Im a fan of the low RC PAFs.
Hey guys, what if.. I put some P.A.F. clones in my Jem 70?
Sounds pretty good. Doesn't quite have the harmonic edge of your amp. Pretty good amp alaround though.
All 12a 9 pin tubes are interchangeable just different gain 12au,12av, 12ay, 12at, 5751, 12ax and the even higher gain little known 12bz.
They are 9 pins. They do have very different current draws which may or may not be important. Original post said "seven pins" hence my reply. Original post edited to 9.
@@c.p.1589 Never had an issue swapping these
@@shckltnebay That's why I said " may or may not".
cab Celestion speakers??
This amp seems to be as good, maybe better than the original!
Samuel Hamilton thank you Samuel, couldn’t have done it without Doug & Pat’s help!
Does Pat ever play the guitar on any of these videos?
Pat has played on a few such as recently the "How Do You Get That Tone #1" video. Watch out. D&P
Oddly....I preferred the modern speaker. More crunchy. I like
It sounded good in the room too, more aggressive because it doesn't compress like the alnico's do. As always, just a matter of what you want to hear. D&P
The Doug and Pat Show I contacted JP...I may have to buy one now...thanks guys. Met you in Costa Mesa. We gotta do that supro video
Great sound. Want a Kemper profile of it!
More footage of nerdville??
There is a video and interview that might still be on Reverb but is on You Tube that covers it in detail which we saw no reason to duplicate. Was a great two hour visit for us though. D&P