Shadow Grooves for House Music using Vocoders and Resonators
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- In this video we show you how to make groovy musical textures, in a sound design workflow using the Ableton Live vocoder & resonator to create loops that organically move & pulsate like percussion loops, but that have a unique quality to them. We also explore the use of modulation to cut out parts of a loop we don't want.
Covered here:
1. Using percussive loops with a vocoder
2. Using modulation to shape the envelope of this loop
3. Using resonators to turn noise loops into chords
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Contents:
0:00 Example
1:09 Sound design concepts
1:59 The Vocoder Noise
3:43 Modulating the volume
5:55 Second example
6:21 The Resonator
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This man is giving away all the sauce!
I love running perc loops through the Resonator to make rhythmic synth lines. Another thing I often do is run 1 shots through the Resonator on a C Minor Triad, resample it and use it in Sampler for tasty dub techno stabs
Good idea. I'm gonna try this later.
thanks for the tip you really sparked some inspiration
You're also not cheap on the sauce :D great Idea!
This is a cool approach to sound design. Turning a basic loop into something more gritty. Never would think of using Vocoder for this.
Glad you like it 😁
Another great tutorial from our boy, fireman, plumber, doctor and music producer Johnny Sins !
Oscar once again making sure his audience succeeds, your uploads are always a highlight
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My man, you are seriously putting out some good unique content, thank you!
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One of the most interesting trainer on UA-cam🙏
I don’t even make house or techno, but this was a really cool rip and I like how focused and to-the-point your teaching style is. Keep up the amazing content!
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I'm passing on the message now! 🥰 thank you
Quickly becoming my favorite channel
No wonder why your channel grew so fast, these tutorials are fantastic.
vocoder is such a weapon for making cool low ends
Your videos never fail to inspire, educate & amaze. Extra kudos for keeping them concise. Best ratio of time spent vs. knowledge gained on video anywhere.
So clever 👏🏼 love it. Thank you
This is great. Thank you. I always learn so much from your videos.
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Oscar, this is pure awesomeness! Thank you!
I LOVE shadow grooves. honesly it's my style!
Then go get busy creating some wicked grooves my friend 😊🌈
This is freakin-tastic, thank you so much Oscar!! 👍👍😎
thank you for some more cool tips 👌👍🙏
Best YT Tutorials out there. Keep em coming!
I used to get a similar thing going in Reason years ago. Ran a Rex loop triggering a sub tractor synth into a vocoder and scream 4. Was great for dub techno style sounds, like this. Nice work.
Your tutorials give so much inspiration. So happy I found your channel! Please keep making videos
I certainly hope to :D
Wooooahh. This is exactly what Ive been looking for. Thanks guy
Clear, perfect. Awesome tutorial.
I'm very glad to found that channel. God bless you my friend !
Cheers!
Nice! I like just using field recordings of me banging on stuff like dumpsters and just sequencing a rhythm and low-passing it so it's mostly just rumble. Will have to try using something that's already kind of rich in timbre and using this technique as well.
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High praise, thank yoooouuu
Really nice! Many times my drum loops as they get more complex they get cluttered, and here you gave a hint of how to fix that. Maybe in the future, it would be nice to have a more in-depth view of decluttering drums and other sounds. Keep it up, Oscar!
Yes me too. I like to create busy drum loops but I find i want to put evey sound in the loop. It makes it busy but tends to get TOO BUSY. So I then strip it down and eliminate some sounds or ill just bring them in and out and swap sounds here and there. Also, cutting the low end on snares or mid frequencies has helped me clean up the low end that can get muddy or complex at times. Keep grooving!
Dude this insane 👊🔥
I would like to thank you for all these amazing content you are sharing with us.
Your tutorials and techniques are way high above the others.
Your didactic is excellent and you really show how to do the things.
I want to pay a beer to this man. 😍
Thank you!!! Will be setting up a Patreon soon for that beer 😌
Awesome tip! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am already sharing your channel to everybody 🌻
Thanks Odo 😌✌
Vengo siguiendo tus videos, excelente el detalle y como programas cada video/clase, muy bien organizado, saludos desde ARGENTINA
oscar you are a legend
Andrew, YOU'RE the real legend ok. Never forget that.
Awesome, awesome, awesome! Didn't expect to learn the Ableton modulation trick in this video, you guys truly are one of the legit electronic music schools in the business.
Thanks Boba! 💚
Amazing! First time I understand the shadow grooves ❤️
I created 2 sample CDs 20 years ago with a concept called GROOVE SHADOW....;) Groove Shadow Elastik was the flagship version and have 4 different frequency layers to alter the impact of the shadow based on those frequency ranges. There is also a synthesizer from the 90s called the Korg Wavestation which had a similar concept (wave sequencing). My new thing I created is called XRIFFz, which are a concept to make spectral based riffs that extend beyond "guitar riffs" into the idea of spectral based selection, makes huge impacts on the dynamics of the possible rhythms. The tutorial is superb, it helps to understand the "spectral bleed" of the loop through modulation with something simple like an amplitude parameter. This subtle bleed of the sounds, along with the accents is key to the glue of loops to additional material as well as the "capture" quality of a loop, making it seem alive and loopy as opposed to mechanically programmed. This stuff goes on forever because you can also use de-esser or other sidechain tools to bring the elements to life and together.
6:47 when you add those drum oh my... It was a vibe
If you like that type of House/techno music, I strongly recommend you to check out Dub Techno or Berlin Techno, preferably from the 90s and early 2000s
I cannot wait to try this after work ✊ love your videos!!
I'm so used to use the modulation method and it feels just normal. You can do so much with that method. Great channel I've subbed 👍
Super cool! Going to be using this immediately, biggup my friend!
Thanks Will!!! 💎
You are awesome, I love all your videos
Thanks Julian 💎
Very usefull! Love the way its presented in a short video. Thanks!
Sounds like skream 🔥
great video as always! thank you
Cheers Roiko :)
Great tutorial, i love the vocoder in ableton
Thanks again. You are a fantastic teacher.
Brilliant term! I can't think of another more appropriate name for that. Imma have to go implement this soon.
Thanks!❤️
This is really good. Thank you
Thanks for rekindling my love for producing!
💎💎💎 so happy to read it :)
Outstanding!! Thank you for another top quality tutorial!
This is a game changer. Thank you!
Eu nunca tinha usado o vocoder. Excelente dica, vou aplicar hoje mesmo
Duuudeeee your such an inspiration!
Thank you so much!!
Simple and effective, love it!
Thanks for this video. Love it.
Nice one as usual Oscar. I like what you did w Volume Modulation. I’ve been using Ableton LFO to modulate volume I. Utility as well as all kinds of parameters on other effects.
Oscar, hip-hop producer here kinda new to electronic music. You are my favorite channel now, learning lot from you keep it up!
Awesome 😌❤
Would love to see more house related tutorials! Thanks man
amazing like always ! thank you 1 :)
genius
dope tips !! thank you 🙏
Love this!
This is awesome-- it's so simple but would've never occurred to me-- like a bottom loop!
Yeah exactly!
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Awesome!
Great tutorial! Thanks!
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Thanks, what a nice trick 👍
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Nice Oscar !!!
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That was excellent and left me wanting to immediately try it.
Go forth and groove!
Amazing!!!
Dope ! Thank you
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Dope stuff
v cool ... yes does give me ideas
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Again very helpfull thanks for sharing 🙏
Cheers!
Instead of Utility I‘d recommend to drop in an Effect Rack, create a Macro for the volume fader and use that instead. The difference is that the Rack can actually go down to 0dB, Utility can‘t.
I would also use that on every channel in general for volume automation instead of the mixing faders. That way it‘s easily possible to do the gain staging later in the mix without f*****ing up the automations!
Agreed, except that in live 11 it does actually go to -infinity :) small upgrade. But with a macro you can determine the range more precisely as you say.
i also started to use a gain Plugin in the insert for volume automation instead of the main fader. so the mixing process is not interupted later (i use reason but the principle is the same). i love this approach and it has helped to improve my overall sound.
Awesome
Cool as a Cubase user I regret there is no stock vocoder inside, thanks for great lesson
that resonator makes a really atmospheric sound, good stuff, i'll try use it
Yep, sounds great. Now I have to go buy a vocoder since I don't use DAWs! Endless bunch of effects and noise boxes on my wishlist.
@@steeletoeboots Damn, you don't use a DAW, how does that work? Just record your sounds in a studio?
@@janderson2709 yeah, I'm kinda old school I guess you could say. I use a drum machine, Mother 32, DFAM, sampler and effects. Like back in the day.
I tried using a DAW for several years but its difficult being creative looking at a screen all day. But I'll edit and remaster on a computer. Workflow with machines seems to be better for me. I'll lay down a groove and start turning knobs and see what comes out. I never plan out anything other than maybe some loops. The rest is just whatever is happening at the moment. It has really helped me be more creative. The limitations of a sampler means you can't sit there all day tweaking sounds like in a DAW. Limitations are good for you. It makes you complete stuff you'd otherwise spend hours trying to perfect. What are you using these days to create music?
@@steeletoeboots Very cool. That all resonates with me (excuse the pun). Definitely have been guilty myself of endlessly tweaking sounds until I'm bored of my own track and I have to leave it for a while before coming back to it. To answer your Q: I'm fairly new to music production but I use ableton and my childhood yamaha keyboard plugged into my PC through a MIDI adapter.
Mate you’re a legend for making all this amazing content and putting it out for free. Any way one can thank you financially?
Just started a patreon! Actually I published it last night! www.patreon.com/underdogmusicschool
You're already a legend for asking the question!
@@OscarUnderdog Good idea! Just joined your Patreon :) Thanks again
Merci! 💯💯
Wow.. resonator is cool
So cool thx 🙏🏽
Cheers!
TF?! 🤯
Thanx! 💃🏼💥
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Your videos will make me switch to Ableton stop 😅
Hahahaha, I'm sure you can do a similar thing in any DAW though, no?
@@OscarUnderdog Of course but the workarounds is muuuch easier in ableton for those kinda stuff
Ahhh my secret weapon Vocoder
This must be the secret ingredient of the secret ingredient soup..
Excellent video. My favourite channel at the moment! 👍🏽🙏🏽🇬🇧
Thanks 😁
Brilliant as always! Any vocoder and resonator alternative for Logic users? Thank you in advance!
Thanks for the quality tutorials, what equipment and software do you use to make them, please?
I have a Macbook pro, OBS a Scarlett 2i2 Interface and a Rode mic. I'm struggling to configure everything and get a quality production like this, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thaaaaanks