Ableton Live's Most UNDERRATED Device (Shockingly Good!)
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2023
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In this video, you'll discover how to add movement to any sound by using Ableton Live's envelope follower device. My name is Philip from Pick Yourself, and I've created this channel to help electronic music producers like you make meaningful progress with their music.
The envelope follower is Ableton Live's most underrated device, at least in my opinion. It can add groove to any sound you want. It does this by analyzing the envelope of one sound and using it as a modulation source for other parameters (like the gain of another sound).
In this tutorial, I'll show you step-by-step how to use the envelope follower in Ableton Live to create dynamic and rhythmic effects in your tracks. Whether you produce Techno, House, or EDM, this versatile device will take your sound to the next level.
With the envelope follower, you'll be able to breathe new life into your sounds, adding movement and excitement that will captivate your listeners. It's a powerful tool that often goes overlooked, but once you understand its potential, you'll wonder how you ever produced without it.
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The most important nugget of information for me was learning that you can map between different channels! I've been using Live for a few years now and I didn't know that was possible. Thanks!
Ahhh nice, that’s great to hear!
Great tutorial (again 😂) ! Just subscribed to your channel and I feel in my guts it's going to grow like crazy - your vids are extremely smart, informative and well-produced (while avoiding the trap of being overproduced) - anyways I'm an instant fan. Thank you for spending time and effort to share your knowledge with us! Greetings from Poland 🙏❤️😘
Your comment really made my day, thanks so much 🖤💯
Great tutorial, I’ve been using Ableton since 2008 and still find new concepts to learn. Thanks a lot!
Great to hear!
This is a fantastic tip, and very well explained/presented. Subscribed!
This means a lot to me, thank you!
This was very eye opening, thank you man!
Thank you for sharing! I'll definitely look into the rest of your content as I really enjoyed this video and your way of doint it!
That means a lot, thank you!
Awesome! Thank you for showing how to use this in such detail! Very inspiring
My pleasure!
Fantastic video! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks a million!
Playing around w using envelope modulation on other effects like a filter or reverb can create really nice effects as well, you can also get into crazier sounds by using this on certain fx parameters like delay time or pitch shifting
So true! Love that as well.
Make a video on wonky sound production for dubstep if if you can that would be awesome thanks
Would love to see a follow up video doing these techniques, @pickyourselfofficial
Great video! Haven't used the Enveloper Follower much, but will be doing now :)
Thanks a lot, let me know how it goes!
I loved these tips! really well explained, thank you!
You're so welcome! :)
Beautiful sounds! Keep up the good content !
Thanks mate, this means a lot coming from you
HOLY COW MAN
I've just turned into an ableton guy, and I've been playing around with the stock plugins, I was amazed by a couple feature but this one is a BEAST
Can't wait for you to put down some more features of the amazing DAW
Fantasitic work man!!!
That’s such a great and encouraging comment. I really appreciate it! ❤️
This is a very thorough video, and I appreciate the efforts of anyone who goes this deep in an attempt to teach others the skills that they have developed. I have one additional suggestion; perhaps you can go into more detail about the concept of an envelope. Defining what an envelope follower is by using the word "envelope" is a little bit circular. Many people are completely unfamiliar with this term and what it refers to in a concrete sense. A picture or two of ADSR curves and how the levels correspond to what's happening with the pad might be helpful.
Really good video in any event. Thanks for doing it.
Great input, thanks for sharing! Improving my teaching and presentation skills with every single video is one of my core goals 💯🙌🏻
Excellent video! Reminded me I'm severely underutilizing my Elektron Analog Heat as a sound design tool. Looking forward to what you have next, bell on.
Thanks a million! This means a lot. Already got four new videos in the pipeline :)
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this tip!
Thanks for watching! Glad you got something out of it :)
This is a great channel mate. You explain things well.
Man, that means a lot, I truly appreciate your comment!
I agree. Subscribed.
Thank you, sir! Will try today!
Hope you enjoy! :)
Great channel my friend, really helpful!
Glad to hear that!
Useful tips ! Gonna try them out 🔥
Nice, glad you got something out of it!
Great style, great tutorial. Keep it up!
I really appreciate you writing this, it means a lot!
Love this, thank you!!
You are so welcome!
This is so much fun. I always had issues with leads. I also just dug up the PaulX stretch plugin for pad making, and this could be a fun combo
Absolutely! 💯
I watch lotus sometimes too! I would love to see a video of channels you generally recommend that have high quality knowledge like yourself ❤
That’s a fantastic idea! I put it on my content list immediately :)
Been sleeping on this one, thanks homie!
Glad it was helpful! 🙌🏻💯
Great video production quality for bein a relatively new / unknown channel. Keep up the great work!
Grüße aus Deutschland, wohl einer der am schwersten zu versteckenden Akzenzte :P
Haha, wie Recht du hast! Thanks for the great feedback!
Oh it’s GREAT lesson. Thank you!
So happy to hear that it’s helped you!
Excellent video.
Great tutorial, thank you. +1 follower 👍
I really appreciate it, thanks!
Very organic feel to it, excellent video.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
Amazing video, congrats!!
Thank you!!
Good stuff keep em coming
Thanks, will do! 💯
i liked that loop u called boring on its own!!!, thought it had a nice clean contrast-- i dunno, lol --with just a hint of that grain delay, cool possibilities $$ dope video!
Haha yeah listening back to it I think you’re right. But it’s something I’d never put into in a song as it is because who knows if 237 other artists have used that loop without changing it in any meaningful way. The envelope follower has definitely helped with making it sound more original.
thank you! might try this later
Glad it was helpful!
Great!!! Didn't even know this existed? Looking forward to messing around with this
Have fun! 💯
Wow that's anazing. I had no idea it existed. Thanks
fantastic tips- thanks!
Awesome, glad you got some value here!
Awesome tip! Followed!
Thanks, that means a lot! 🙌🏻
Cool, I hope to test it soon🎉
Let me know how it goes!
Thank you so so much again!! Just inhaling all your Tipps and tricks and try to make something in my own :))
Could imagine to create a complete track only using standard Live sounds and instruments once using a Push 2 and making a full arrangement starting “boring” with e.g only a kick and step by step bringing all elements in and also step by step using the envelopes and developments of the sounds?
Nice video, thanks.
You’re welcome, thanks!
really nice, i will try it on my next never finished track :)
Yeah. Go for it! 💯 Happy you got something out of it!
Great video, I'm excited to experiment with this to make my percussion loops more lively and unique! This is kind a long shot, but would you be willing to share the name of the sample pack you used for the kick! I've been looking for round kicks with a tail just like the one you used :)
very cool! thanks~
Glad you like it! 🙌🏻
great tips!
Glad you got something out of this!
Super helpful and indeed easy to implement. I find it even more groovy than using the vocoder on a drum loop.
Fantastic! So happy to hear that it inspires you :) and I totally agree on the groovyness.
Love this! great vid.
Glad you enjoyed it! 💯
Very nice content !
Thanks so much, I’m happy it resonates.
Great video, what I think can be helpful for next time is to put some timestamps for jumping between the different examples
Good idea! I’ll definitely start implementing that. 💯🙌🏻
That's interesting. Thank you
This is so cool! Thanks for sharing this technique. I can see myself in an Ableton wormhole tonight. LOL
im instant fan love it good job
That’s awesome, thanks for that! 💯🙌🏻
Nice video Mr.Röder :)
Haha cheers mate, nice to see you here 🤘🏻💯😅
Cheers for the shoutout. Love your content :)
Man, you’re crushing it! Your success is well-deserved and it’s only the beginning. I’ll hit you up via email, we should say hello in person :)
there's also a great use of this if you want to sidechain your bass from your kick, applying this with 0-50% parameters on your kick, to duck down your overlapping bass frequencies it's a good use of env follower
Yeah, absolutely!
Great stuff.
Thanks, I truly appreciate it!
damn good tutorial . thx :)
Thank you 💯
Very cool reminds me of a hit song groove.
Happy to hear that :)
Great tutorial
Thank you! Cheers! 💯🙌🏻
Hello, thanks for your videos. Can you share what headphones ur using.
Audeze LCD-X Creators Edition. They beat speakers in mid four figures range easily. You can professionally mix and master from wherever you are (I’ve done major label work while traveling with my family through Italy last summer).
Good one i think this will help me to make my type of music atmospheric dream state electro 🎉
Nice, so great to hear that!
Hey Philip,
Even though techno is not my music, this was an inspiring tutorial. I will try it out the next time.
I would find it exciting to manipulate not only the gain, but also other parameters. I would have liked to see in the video what else you do with it.
Have a great day!
Thanks so much for the feedback! Yeah, I might even do a follow-up video showing some other cool modulation possibilitites.
nice explanation thanks!
Glad it was helpful! You’re from Berlin as well?
Yeap we are a Berlin based label, nice to meet ya @@pickyourselfofficial
@@pickyourselfofficial Yeap, as stated in our name. We are an independent record label from Neukolln :)
Cool tips! I wish it was possible to add the envelope follower to the track you're modulating, and then providing a track which it would follow. Kind of similar to how sidechain compression works for example.
That would be cool! Send it to Ableton ;)
You could probably edit the envelope follower to do that, its a M4L device after all
It's actually already possible to modulate track X using the envelope follower on track Y, unless I misunderstand what you are trying to achieve!
Bro that was perfect
Thanks man, that means a lot!
Ive only ever used it on gain of a eq as a dymanic eq on a bass sidekicked to a kick. there are easier ways to do such things but it helps
Like an old school noise gate key. Cool.
... and I use Ableton only for recording my guitar riffs, vocals and doing some little programming. Dunno how I can utilise this in my genere, but let's see. As someone already said, well explained!
Thanks so much! 🤘🏻
sounds sick man.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! 💯🙌🏻
epic - subbed
Much appreciated; thanks! 💯
cool video bro
Thanks mate!
Nice one. I'm gonna go figure out how to do this in Bitwig.
Oh yeah, Bitwig is super powerful!
Nice vibe
Thank you! :)
I use this to duck sub from bass, great wee tool!
Good to hear!
Like……enough to sell my MPC Live and Maschine Plus.Because dont have enough time to use all and gotta fully learn Ableton.Good video )
Haha, nice one! Yep, in the end that’s probably a clever decision.
THAS SO SO COOL THANK YOU SO MUCH I FIND IT VERY INTRESTING, NOW THAT IM STARTING WITH ABLETON I FIND MY SELF LITTLE BIT LOST WITH SLL THE FX AND COMPONENTS IT HAS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A QUICK REVIEW OR GUIDE FOR IT
I’ll note it :)
good stuff
Thanks, glad you’re getting value from it! 🙌🏻
sub earned!
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thanks :)
My pleasure!
Hi do you have a short tutorial for Bitwig's envelope follower too? Can this be done on Bitwig? thanks
cool!!!
The problem with digital envelope following is, that there's always going to be a processing delay, you probably won't be able to get good transients with it - be sure to offset the delay of the channel a few ms...
I didn't run into deep issues with that but I can imagine this also depends on the exact signal (and what you want to do with it). Thanks for the great contribution with your comment, very cool!
I hope this becomes a finished track 😊
Haha it might! 😂
just use the gate tool and side chain it to any audio source. way cleaner sounding.
Are those HOFA panels? And LCD-X's? I am going to sub for those alone, lol.
Haha nice! Yes, LCD-X. The diffusors are Vicoustic, the broadband bass traps are custom-built by myself (the typical rockwool approach).
@@pickyourselfofficial Ah nice! They look really great, similar to the panels you can buy from HOFA. I also built my own panels but to my left and right I have some HOFA curtains which work well.
So sickkkk
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whaaaat!? yes!!!
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Interesting! Is it possible to have the env. follower reverse the signal? I.e. instead of it raising the gain in the utility it reduces the gain in accordance with the envelope?
Great question! I think you’d have to dig into the M4L device and change something but I’ve never thought of that use case yet. Might try something out and let you know then ;)
Thinking about that again… wouldn’t this be possible simply with a compressor that’s sidechained to that signal? It would read the envelope and reduce gain accordingly.
@pickyourselfofficial yes, absolutely. Maybe the other method might give a subtle difference though, or give access to doing something else as part of the chain? Dunno, kinda thinking out loud!
@pickyourselfofficial especially in conjunction with the other controls in the EF. For example you can't, I don't think, delay a standard side-chained compression. Can you?
Would be cool to use on a filter
Absolutely, that’s one of my favorite use cases!
Sorry if you’ve already covered this, but is it possible to invert the envelope follower to come in in silent sections instead of when there is input?
Not sure if I understand correctly but have you tried to turn the gain to negative?
Would this work with Abletons ‘cv tools’ ???
Good video. But that title is begging for attention so desperately 😅
It’s the 21st century wdye 😮💨
Is there a third party equivalent to the envelope follower? I know Saturn 2 has an envelope follower but it doesn't have enough control...
Unfortunately I haven’t found anything yet with the same ease of use. If you find something please let me know!
I was expecting to see you set the envelope follower gain to negative - this would have been more like sidechain/ducking, right?
I view the gain on the envelope follower simply as “how strong do I want the modulation signal to be” and then map this to whatever parameter I find useful. Gain is the easiest and most obvious one but there’s much more you can do with it.
The use case you’re describing would indeed be more suitable for a normal compressor with sidechain enabled.
Gj ❤
Much appreciated! 🖤
Are there any VSTs that do this?
I haven’t yet found a good solution. Might be possible to do something like this with Reaktor, I imagine. But haven’t checked yet.
It seems a bit limited and samey on most sounds. I's be good if you could duck the volume with it. Is that possible?
Not sure if I understand the question correctly, sorry. Isn’t ducking the volume exactly what is happening here?
Does anyone know if you could do this with logic?
Personally I don’t know but I hope some logic people will jump in and help you.
i got a quick question. When i do gain staging, for some rason i still get my piano distorted, tried putting the DB on Vumt Delux, below -9 DB before every plugin.. Am i supposed to use the gain staging tool to lower the gain, or like a utility like in ableton?
why is it distorting still?
thanks so much
Okay it's pretty hard to diagnose this from the description. My recommendation is to create a blank session, load up the piano, and add one plugin after another (like you did in your original session) with the same settings until you figure out which one causes the distortion. You then have to go into the settings of the plugin and dial back whatever parameter is causing it to distort. The OTHER possibility is that all of your channels mixed together cause some plugins on your master channel to distort (or the output of the master channel goes above 0dBFs. Third possibility: If you're in FL Studio, there's this strange limiter automatically engaged on the master channel. So a lot of producers don't notice that this limiter is working way too hard (=distorting like crazy).
@@pickyourselfofficialthis guy cares.
🙌@@adtoes
The piano is my main instrument when recording. Most of the time I get piano distortion even with balancing is down to gain bumps in reverbs and overcrunched comp.
Brilliant advice above. It may take time and even feel. laborious but sometimes we have to get our hands dirty and be forensic.
@@tonycowin good points! Thanks for contributing :)