THE ERA OF WALLET GAMERS || November Hotel React
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
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people shelling out 100k dollars in micros and I sit here for like weeks weighing the pros and cons on a $0.99 purchase off of steam.
Perfect example of why to never give your kids your mfking debit card details.
i will always remember the time where u had to do stuff to get your skin and weapon and not pay for them
I could listen to Alana say, "ghillie suit" all day 😂
jelly soot
damn this new intro is so cute I hope she keeps it...
the intro is the reason why i watch her, it always makes me laugh!
Part of why I don't play War Thunder anymore. A few dollars here and there might not seem bad, but it adds up and can lead to a habit of doing so.
I’m ashamed to admit this but I bought v-bucks…..TWICE! I’m sorry I don’t wanna go to hell 😭😭😭
it's joever
You will never recover. You have been damned for all eternity.
@@loganmiller7995 for buying vindertech bucks?
Act Man actually covered the thing with iShowSpeed
Another amazing trial
The accidental flash? 😂
@@chasp9369 nah the scams
@@jpjfrey5673 oh I was thinking of something else 😂
I'm proud to say that I've never used any real money on microtransactions in my 25 years of videogaming.
The cash cow virgin vs the gigachad f2p player
I'm sorta inbetween, I spend money on skins on fortnite and stuff but only if I know I'm gonna use/like the item, also I sometimes buy BP's for others
Man, I miss when microtransactions were shit on and mocked by players, now everyone has just become complacent. I remember when people were absolutely shitting on the horse armor in Oblivion or whatever. F2P and mobile gaming has ruined the AAA gaming industry.
Me spending over a thousand bucks on Apex alone, with 5k hours. Yes, I need mental help.
Speaking of slippery slope. I can't believe how boring Battle Pass have become. I first saw it Dota 2, and it was amazing thing to buy. It is released around The International and It served as some short of 'sport book' where you can view matches schedules, get drops from the matches, make predictions, get players cards where you can get them e-signed if you attend the venue, make bets, and well the basic leveling is there too. And portions of it get donated to the tournament's prize pool, which is why Dota 2 TI prize pool got that big. It's mostly crowd-funded.
Years gone by, from a nifty annual thing to celebrate high stake, high level tournament now it become a lazy monthly cash grab tactic. Shame, really.
I loved the dota 2 battle passes in the first few years
it did feel like the rewards and cosmetics fell off really hard at a certain point
I used to be suicidal and would spend my meager salaries on video games because I didn't care about the future.
I somehow survived until now, and I'm not spending like that anymore.
Every time someone tries to downplay something with the "Slippery Slope Fallacy", I can't help but think something is broken in their head. 9 times out of 10, current day, Slippery Slope is just the intended progression, seeing something not go down that path is the exception.
Outing myself a bit here, but the only game I spend money on is Arknights, mainly cause the company behind it *actually* uses the money to make the game better instead of pocketing it and doing nothing. In the span of like, 3 years since the game came out, I've spend maybe like 300-400 USD for skins and characters. Since then, the game has upgraded the in-game UI, added English Voice Acting, better translated story, more engaging events, and even more QoL stuff. Unlike some mobile game devs, The Arknights devs actually cares about it's players. Even better you can go full F2P cause there's no real power creep in the game, like, I've managed to get through the game and it's events using only free to play characters. So F2P is entirely viable.
I actually wish Arknights is not a gacha game. The gameplay is solid. I am grinding IS3 A15 endings atm.
I heard there is a new and big gamemode coming soon. So excited!
@@beefystu559 Oh yeah, the new event was a blast, to say it was nothing short of hype would be disservice. And then the next event coming up will release Quibai, and then we have the monster hunter cross over to look forward to.
On the side of grinding, I recently E2'd Nian and M3'd Surtur. Working on e2'ing Dusk and M3'ing Chongyue
I wouldnt say there isn't powercreep, its more that the powercreep doesn't really have a big effect on gameplay due to the fact that there isn't pvp and there are certain gamemodes that can let more under used characters get some use like Integrated Strategies. Like I would say Schwarz got powercreeped by Pozy who just did everything that Schwarz could do but bettter and with an extra turret for more mobility. HG also doesn't usually base their gameplay around the strongest characters as there are some characters that would really screw over balance (ie. Surtr and Chen Alter) which helps reduce powercreep as well as older characters stay relavant longer.
@@nicholasjacobs6605 True, the power creep isnt blatant like, Silverash is **still** good to this day. Though, the five and six stars are nice, I've been running through with the lower star operators.
Another fellow Arknights enjoyer, I see.
I am not sure I have ever spent more than $100 on a game for something that wasn't map packs. I did get the $30 update for all the skins in Star Wars Battlefront 2. It was not worth it though since EA killed the game early.
I was in a raid in d1 with some friends and they started adding up all the silver they had bought over the years. 2 of them were around 70-80k. I did the math for them based on the most efficient packs bought which would be the 100 dollar packs. They had to spend atleast 700 dollars US. They were Australian so it was about 1000 AU.
That's just silver, no dlcs included which they bought every single one on launch.
They were disappointed to say the least lmao
Wallet gamers and whales are the exact reason why micro transactions still exist. Yet they still act that this isn’t their fault the gaming industry is the way it is now. It’s not just the devs, it’s the gamers too. Because people will play anything at this point because of how fucking lazy this generation is. Remember that guy that spent 100,000 dollars on Diablo and got vira?! This is what companies think gamers want. It all comes to who you marketing too. 100k is literally a house bro!
19:14 Imagine making 5.1 billion dollars on the most boring, content lacking Cod this year
I'm guilty... I buy micro transactions like monthly welkin in Genshin and battle passes because I hate myself and want every boost possible without actually buying the game's fake currency which is genuinely one of the biggest rip offs ive seen in these F2P's.
I guess that's only a problem i have with free games though. Because games I paid for don't get extra money from me unless its extra content like an expansion.
I hate cash shops in my paid games and never supported them, even in destiny... I'd just farm bright dust for the goods I wanted in 2 and would just open those mystery boxes they'd reward you with for weekly challenges in OG Destiny.
People who play mobile games like afk arena literally drop 6 figures. Like 250k. Its fucking insane. Oh, i said this and then 10 seconds later they talk about it lmao
i spend max 60 dollars on a game, and never a single cent on free to play games. The moment the game gets boring because i'm gated by the monetisation system ? I quit, simple as that. No sunk cost fallacy to fall for.
I love the commentary, but I would like to add some discussion:
I don't mind seeing microtransactions in games, so long as they are an OPTION, not a solution.
Microtransactions, in-game purchases, Battle-passes whatever, I don't care what other terms there are,
I don't mind them; I just don't want them to be the only option in getting a cool item, sets, or cosmetics in the game, especially if you paid $60-70 for it. It also shouldn't be egregious or predatory, or even be the only functioning part of the game, because then you aren't treated as a gamer but as a consumer(point of the video).
Another point I would like to bring up about microtransactions is that half of the games always mentioned in articles where they showed off their massive earnings; they are free to play, and with that comes the predatory methods: from Apex, to Warzone, COC, Genshin, hell even Candy Crush. (I don't need to mention them...) I wish whales would sometimes stop the cope, and learn a bit of patience.
I wish a lot of these games were smart with using their money, take Arknights as an example. Yes, it is a gacha game, yes you can pay for more gacha rolls, upgrade items, or even characters, but it is NOT REQUIRED for f2p's. You can grind for the things you want in the game with relative ease. I got the 2 new characters in the recent banner(a yearly limited character and the not limited one) with just a month for grinding gacha pulls. I have not spent a dime on the game, but instead practiced patience in getting what I wanted. The cosmetics, while you can't grind to get them, you can grind the special currency from clearing levels or being given a hefty sum of them by the game because of the special events. To get to the main point, Arknights, all the regional versions of it, uses their money earned wisely. CN produces a lot of events with it, take the Ambience Synesthesia concerts as an example. JP, KR, and TW does the same, but I am unaware of the things that they provide, while EN recently released some high quality English dubs, collabed with well known artists from the community(Harlequin Wheels and the like), set up their own original livestream which has always been different from the CN version(unless it's a milestone event like the next 5 year anniversary), paid for EN exclusive music to be produced, and even recently collabed with Dilongoo to produce a short animation, Lappy, a fan composer who is part of the community too.
TL;DR games should not and never be pay to play. They should be complete games first and foremost, not a glorified e-shop. However, I do understand why the shop exists, especially if the games are free. It is because the game is backed by the consumer, much like Arknights. With ethical practices from the company that handles games like Arknights, us the players(not consumers) are always rewarded by them. But for AAA titles, I have no defense or even have sympathy for.
my biggest gripe is with games like World of Warcraft and FFXIV
both have cash shops that are cosmetic only, but there is a clear effort and divide in how much effort the devs put in creativity wise (because it will make them real dollar money) vs what they put out from achievement rewards
@@SmugAlana that's interesting. Could you elaborate further? I don't play mmo's or online games that much(mostly single-player).
@@ajax3807 idk about FFXIV, but I remember when I played WoW, the cash shop would have super high quality mounts that had unique models or at least more uncommon models, whereas a lot of the achievement mounts were recolors or mounts that were updated versions of old models, etc. I assume this is what she means by the difference between creatvity and effort put into cash shop rewards and more achievement based rewards.
Weird that Asmon "I support a company that sexually harassed a woman into suicide" Gold would dare to look down on those who buy microtransactions, when the company he shills for has a history of molesting employees. Dude is getting paid to shill for them and shit on other games. Can't hate on pay for gacha too much; I uninstalled Genshin because I couldn't get Klee without paying for pulls. As far as cosmetics is concerned, I'd like to know how paying for a glam set for FFXIV is "pay to win".
my spendings in steam are 2100€ over my lifetime (9years) but overall i think ive spent little less than 3000€ in games
i love how the mibile "gamer" says he has 6 figures "invested" into it like that money can ever be recouped and wasn't just thrown into a trash bin
surely slippery slope is not the word for a continuous aggressive push to get a foot in the door or normalize whale behavior. To get people to spend more and more for less and less. There is a huge financial incentive to keep pushing for loot boxes and microtransactions. There is no reason why a company shouldn't if they purely want to make money. There are psychological models, tricks and strategies to get people to spend their money on digital things.
slippery slope is still a fallacy. slippery slope gives the idea automatically sliding into worse, like an accident or unintentional consequences.
What is happening now is putting it on a snowmobile to go down the entire mountain as fast as possible. Completely intentional. That's not a fallacy, we have the fucking evidence and motive.
These are genuine mental disorders and companies are preying on it.
It isn't just immoral, it should be highly illegal. Casinos were never this predatory off of the same disorder and they were heavily regulated for it.
Grim dawn was made by some of the original diablo 2 devs
WALLET GAMERS ARE CRINGE
I have spent about 25dhs on cosmetics
25dhs is basically 2.48 USD lmao
I was around 14
Yeah I spent about $400 on TF2 hats over the years.
but it's been out for so long! that's less than I've spent on WoW subs in 15 years...
Around 2k in fortnite since 2015
I just do not understand people willing to dump their hard earned money into these digital things. Makes no sense
I do it (if 20$ is dumping money) if I know I'm gonna use it, give it to someone for their birthday, or just to be a nice human
Bruh, its all joever....
Valhiem:
I play league since season 2 and i put exactly 0 money into it .
When ptw was starting people Around me call these people GAYMERS
PVE in MMOs gets boring and repetitive, after one or two runs of the same dungeons/raids you already know everything about them, PVP is the logical thing to do after.
never understood all the gacha gaming and skin buying shit, feels awful to use a bought skin
ok don't listen to the part of me spending money on league skins as a kid
Don't have time to play the game, so I pay money to not play it
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Gocha and live service games have no value, when the servers go down permanently, you will own nothing.
That's great and all, but fortnite gave me friends, saved me from death, and a fun experience