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  • @draconis17
    @draconis17 8 місяців тому +19

    I agree with most of what he said, but I'll stand by laughing at Geeta.
    He compared Geeta to trainers that use multiple of the same pokemon, but like, we don't laugh at her for being uncreative or anything, we laugh at her for apparently not understanding her own team. She has a pokemon that gets stronger for every ally that's been defeated... and leads with it. She also has a pokemon that sets up toxic spikes when it gets hit... and uses it last. You could literally just swap the order of those two pokemon and the fight would be like twice as hard.
    I'm not trying to say that makes the newer games inherently bad or anything, but it's absolutely worth making fun of.

  • @ChazDragoon
    @ChazDragoon 2 місяці тому +9

    The "racism" thing with Shadow is an out of context joke. There are alien tenticle monsters in Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) with dark skin and everyone in the game calls then "black creatures"..cause..well..obviously...they're alien creatures with black skin/scales/hide/whatever.
    It made for easy Out of Context jokes years later and it's probably now overflowed into being taken seriously...which is stupid.

  • @YasaiTsume
    @YasaiTsume Рік тому +100

    1 Hour? You spoil us!
    Love putting an Alana commentary video in the background while doing stuff these days. Really calming.

  • @michaelscalia7080
    @michaelscalia7080 8 місяців тому +81

    Videos like this make me glad a game like Pal World came out. Whether it really does become a powerhouse contender with Pokemon in the "Catch Monsters" genre doesn't matter, it's shown that the genre is starved for new ideas, and Pokemon can't just rest on its laurels anymore.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому +2

      Most of the things in should never be in Pokemon.

    • @kyotanaka920
      @kyotanaka920 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Taz-ey4jla lot of the things in Palworld are ALREADY in Pokemon... Just not the games. Yes, that includes butchering the Pokemon for food.
      And what little the game has, Palworld has it too and does it significantly better. Not to mention it has ideas that people wanted Pokemon to do day 1 it went 3D.
      Meanwhile, most innovation GameFreak's shown in a long time was Arceus Legends, and is the closest thing fans wanted for years but fell short in various aspects. Aspects fans hope that would be touched upon on Scarlet and Violet, and for some reason they took a step back in those aspects

    • @dowfreak7
      @dowfreak7 7 місяців тому +2

      Palmon's kind of a bad example because the Pokemon appeal is incredibly surface level.
      I checked the game out as an avid Pokemon fan and was thoroughly disappointed that it's just not an open world Pokemon like it seems from the outside. It's just rust with a bit of monster collection. Or any other survival craft game, just with Pokemon designs as automation devices.
      Not to say that it's a bad game, but it's not a good Pokemon contender, if it doesn't remotely scratch the same itch.
      It'd be like saying "good thing Dark Souls came out to really show people how you do the Starcraft formula right".

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 7 місяців тому

      @@kyotanaka920 1. Only brainwashed twitter freaks anything else besides eating the Pokemon/pals happens in Pokemon.
      2. It does nothing better only Pokemon haters blinded by biased views think they do.
      3. Yet y’all cried and threw a fit when Pokemon went 3D and do any innovative stuff because you want it like the old day yet In the old days y’all cried about them not innovating nothing they do was make y’all overgrown children happy as long as they don’t put woke stuff in their games I hope they do everything in their power to not do what y’all want.
      4. It went 3D long before Arceus legends

    • @michaelscalia7080
      @michaelscalia7080 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Taz-ey4jl Maybe not anymore, but in the canon, Pokemon used to war with the humans of the setting, and there's a lot of complicated relationships between people and pokemon even today.
      What Palworld does is different from Pokemon; it's a parallel market within the same genre. It's a healthy competition, instead of an unhealthy one-upsmanship competition. Pokemon's never had things like base-building mechanics or made you feel like your pokemon truly lived alongside you in the games. In the Manga and Anime, sure, absolutely, but we're talking about the games here. What would be the logistical capabilities of my trainer going out and catching an entire herd of Tauros to be used as work animals? No Pokemon game has broached that concept, and it's a vast untapped market in their fanbase. That's Palworld's key to success.

  • @TheInstinctWithinV2
    @TheInstinctWithinV2 10 місяців тому +31

    Hitmonlee and chan had very different names in Japanese and were based on Japanese pro fighters. Lee & Chan are exclusive ideas by the translation team for English.

  • @MasterofInterspace
    @MasterofInterspace Рік тому +42

    47:30 woah, back it up mister. That blew up into a controversy because Game Freak said they weren't implementing a national dex so they can update the models. No reasonable person would expect game freak to update the models every game- least of all a pokemon fan when this has been a reoccurring thing they've done. *They* said "new models in Sword and Shield." I didn't give a damn about the models until they lied about them.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      They didn’t lie about it though lmao.

    • @ZenoDovahkiin
      @ZenoDovahkiin 7 місяців тому +14

      @@Taz-ey4jlExcept the did. They said they'd update the models, they didn't.

  • @mlpfanboy1701
    @mlpfanboy1701 Рік тому +120

    Gen 1 had a couple balls of gas, several balloons, 3 rocks with googly eyes, several basic animals, and a seal named seel.

    • @zenmastakilla
      @zenmastakilla 10 місяців тому +8

      That's why gen 2 was the best.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 9 місяців тому +32

      @@zenmastakilla Gen 2 has like 30 mons most of which are not impressive.

    • @furyberserk
      @furyberserk 9 місяців тому +5

      Sure, lets forget the ghost and whatever paychic types were.

    • @indumatipngtuber2790
      @indumatipngtuber2790 9 місяців тому +14

      My favorite gen 1 pokemon was the one based on that one famous psychic who literally sued Pokemon for "using his likeness."

    • @MasterofInterspace
      @MasterofInterspace 8 місяців тому +4

      I'm sorry, several balloons? You mean one, right. Jigglypuff. Wigglytuff doesn't inflate. I'm assuming the other is Clefairy? Which is supposed to be alien/fae inspired, they don't inflate.

  • @malice926
    @malice926 9 місяців тому +10

    The reasons for why Sword, Shield, Scarlet and Violet suck are simple;
    1. They're glitchy messes
    2. They let Nintendo hold pokemon not available in them hostage behind the pokemon home paywall
    3. They have nothing new besides their gimmicks and aren't improvements compared to previous titles

  • @TheBeardedFrogSage
    @TheBeardedFrogSage 10 місяців тому +24

    I honestly wish more people were you like you, Alana, and not these sleepy dudes who mumble into a mic covered by a sock. Thank you for suffering through this bad audio to provide excellent content!

  • @eternalsummer8409
    @eternalsummer8409 7 місяців тому +5

    Pokemon red: we recreated the gamefreak office so you can talk to us, using 2d to make a 3d room, and a secret lift behind it. Pokémon scary and violent: go inside building? LMAO shut up and give us money

  • @ArtemisKitty
    @ArtemisKitty Рік тому +14

    Sounds like they could fix a lot of this if they had just included occlusion culling... don't render things entirely in 3D, only the side that faces you/is visible. So that couch would not have a back to it if you were in front, the doors would only have one side, etc., and none of that would matter, as you don't need to render stuff that you can't SEE in the first place. Saves a massive amount of processing power for the GPU if done correctly.

  • @necrosteel5013
    @necrosteel5013 Рік тому +41

    For me the peak was gen 5
    Black and white was damn fine stuff.
    Gen 3 was good though, i can't protest that.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      Nope gen 8 is peak get that 2D sprite garbage out of here.

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Taz-ey4jl Gen 6 and above are all horribly mid.

    • @grotus5549
      @grotus5549 3 дні тому

      ​@@Taz-ey4jlokay, zoomer

  • @0rphan_0f_k0s
    @0rphan_0f_k0s 4 дні тому +1

    8:44 for context Shadow is refering to the black creature aliens which is part of the good run where you save humans by only defeating the aliens and healing human soldiors as well as not attacking humans which goes towards the branching paths stories for replayability.

  • @J.P1981
    @J.P1981 Рік тому +54

    It's an odd feeling hearing people say that gen 5 is part off the old generation now. I almost forgot that it was almost twelve years ago now. I started playing the pokemon games with B & W and I remember playing with my neighbor fondly.

    • @schaddenkorp6977
      @schaddenkorp6977 Рік тому +9

      Dude I played blue and red lol on the original game boy too.

    • @Sarkkoth
      @Sarkkoth Рік тому +7

      @@schaddenkorp6977 The 90s/early 2000's were an amazing time to be a Pokemon fan tbh.

    • @0potion
      @0potion 9 місяців тому +3

      I'm old enough to have played the originals on original hardware.... And black & white were actually the ones that I stopped playing at and I would say black & white too was probably the last decent pokemon game in my personal opinion. I probably would have played black & white too if it hadn't been for my 3DS crapping out and me not wanting to show out the money for another one.

    • @jtnachos16
      @jtnachos16 9 місяців тому +2

      @@0potion The last mainline pokemon games I jumped in on were Black 2 and white 2. While I did pick up a copy of one of X/Y and one of Sun/Moon it just felt....off to me. They just LOST something in that transition to 3D, unable to keep me interested, and it wasn't helped by how they STILL haven't figured out 'how 2 3D'. I wouldn't be shocked to find there are still animations from stadium 1 in use in scarlet and violet.
      I guess, I did enjoy OR/AS quite a bit, but that was more 'gen 3 remake is still gen 3 and reasonably good'. I also dipped out on Mystery Dungeon with SMD. SMD felt so very dumbed down it was insulting, both from a writing standpoint and from a mechanical one. The handholding was insufferable.
      Personally, I feel the series truly 'peaked' with either Platinum or HG/SS. Those were the ones that felt the most content complete to me. B/w and it's sequel pair were pretty decent, but they felt 'small' in comparison, and were starting to go a little too heavy on 'story' for me.
      I played the originals on a DMG-01 as well. I swear to god I could throw that thing down a flight of stairs and it'd leave the floor worse off than the device. My family referred to it as the game brick. It was the nokia 3310 of handheld game consoles. Makes me feel really old, but it seems odd to me, that I can still MASSIVELY enjoy new pokemon games via fanworks, despite the official ones just being bleh to me.

    • @0potion
      @0potion 9 місяців тому

      @@jtnachos16 I never played this ruby sapphire remix but I've heard great things about it. I did play soul silver thoughi got it just a little bit before my 3DS died. And it seemed really fun but I never got all the way through the end game so I don't know how well they did that aside from what other people have told me.

  • @Richiedoesmc
    @Richiedoesmc Рік тому +46

    Pretty much every Pokémon game had glitches and bugs. It’s just before Scarlet and Violet you had to actively search for them or know some minor timing based button inputs to execute them. Now it can be encountered by walking to slowly in certain places or getting into battles with pokemon in a cave too close to a wall.

    • @brinnshea
      @brinnshea 10 місяців тому +8

      Yes and no. Some bugs and glitches in gen 1 were literally completely unavoidable

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 9 місяців тому +13

      @@brinnshea Yes thats however fairly disingenuous as Gen 1 was the first game in the series and came out at a time when games were only just getting started. Quality peaked around Gen 4 and 5 and then fell off with each subsequent game as GF weren't able to keep up with the evolving expectations of modern games.

    • @michaelortiz1561
      @michaelortiz1561 9 місяців тому +6

      Idk I've played scarlet and violet and the worst I've had to deal with was stuttering in some places during gameplay and poor ppl movement in cut scenes with lots of moving ppl

    • @ghirahimlefabuleux8984
      @ghirahimlefabuleux8984 9 місяців тому +7

      @@luminous3558 Gen 1 came out the same year as Quake, Mario 64, RE, Diablo, and Tomb Raider. The time gap between gen 1 and gen 4 is similar to the one between gen 1 and Super Mario Bros. 1. gen 1 released at the start of the 5th generation of consoles. Saying that it came out when games just started is ignoring almost 20 years of mainstream video game history, and the fact that the other influential games that released around that times completely stomp on gen 1 when it comes to being coded competently.

    • @SuperDababy2
      @SuperDababy2 8 місяців тому

      @@luminous3558 tbf, Ultra sun and Ultra Moon were kinda cool. They literally remade the games just made, but they were as bad as we are now (still worst than everything before Gen 5 tho.)

  • @davxlau
    @davxlau 5 днів тому +1

    Love how the "Old art style" for gen 1 shown is all the Gen 3 art for gen 1 pokemon 😆
    Gen 3 and 4 is supreme. And at least Gen 5 still held most of their design language

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow Рік тому +11

    I dont know, black people have an interesting take on black people, when 90% of all the black content creators on UA-cam have some sort of hip hop/rap aesthetic. You cant fault Nintendo for assuming. Thats like a black guy complaining about people assuming all black people do is eat fried chicken after he walked out of KFC with a giant bucket of fried chicken. You are not helping to combat stereotypes by actively feeding into them.

    • @spiderraccoon7869
      @spiderraccoon7869 Рік тому +9

      I do think there is some bad tokenism in media sometimes, but I can see what you mean. When he talked about the black person that rapped in the Pokémon game, I was like…yeah, but that’s real life though. Plus, it’d probably still be a problem if the character was white. Like, do we just not have rappers in media because skin color is an issue?
      Also, when he mentioned Shadow the hedgehog talking about black creatures…..the creatures in the game are literally black…
      That being said, maybe he was being sarcastic with that one and it flew over my head, idk.

  • @jonny-not-so-bravo617
    @jonny-not-so-bravo617 Рік тому +7

    47:24 Ey wait a minute, I don't even like Pokemon much but you ain't gonna shit on my guy Gollurk, he the best damn design they ever made

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      He is a pretty good design but not the best.

  • @RayetRyder
    @RayetRyder Рік тому +88

    I’m not even that versed in Pokémon and even I know fighting a discoed out semi is wrong

    • @thehashflingingslasher
      @thehashflingingslasher 8 місяців тому +2

      Idk Last time bruce tried that he ended up with god's powers ;)

    • @fatalerror8943
      @fatalerror8943 20 днів тому

      It is supposed to be a bunch of the pokemon Revaroom or something bunched together and it somehow has a different typing to match the Star member.

  • @Aelda69
    @Aelda69 9 місяців тому +18

    Say what you want about Pokémon, but if I could have a harem of Meowscarada, Gardevoir, Kirlia, Lopunny, Hatterene, and Salazzle, I would do so in a heartbeat.
    The experiment would be, *-how many eggs can I "discover."*

  • @eternalsummer8409
    @eternalsummer8409 7 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of a Josh stryfe Hayes video about why mmos feel different now, and the end point was “we got old”

  • @Zanderman2006
    @Zanderman2006 2 місяці тому

    The Sun and Moon/ Ultra Sun and Moon games are easily my favorite pokemon games charming story fun pokemon designs and cool mechanics and it is UNIQUE it isn't just gym battles I love it so much!

  • @YurgenGrimwood
    @YurgenGrimwood 8 місяців тому +4

    When it comes to reusing the 3D models, the issue isn't that they did it, the issue is that they used it as the excuse for why they removed the full national Dex. They lied and said it would be too much work to make all the models.
    Game freak is mostly responsible for how shit the Pokémon games have become, regardless of who makes the models. They still develop the buggy shit, with lackluster mechanics and increasingly dead cities and landscapes, because honestly Gamefreak hasn't grown to the challenge of being the developers of the biggest IP of all time. The Pokemon IP deserves better, something that Gamefreak doesn't seem capable or willing to give. I will never believe anyone who ever says they "miss the days of scarlet and violet". Perhaps someone will look fondly on their time playing it, but it will never be considered good.
    When it comes to the designs, the issue was never that cutesy cartoony Pokémon never existed, or that humanoid Pokémon never existed. The issue is that there used to be a balance between cutesy and more rough Pokémon, and there were fewer humanoid Pokémon, who were usually way less human like. Most of the time they were just bipedal animals.
    We've gone from a humanoid Pokémon once in a while, to almost all starters becoming something between bipedal to just a human in a spandex and mask. The worst part is that they start off on all 4 legs, but then stand up. It's weird. I don't want my best buddy pet I've nurtured throughout the whole game turn into a weird almost human thing. Imagine how weird it would be if your real pet went biped after a few years, with human legs and arms.

  • @captc0ck5lap60
    @captc0ck5lap60 Місяць тому +1

    5:50 Giga Chad take from Chocomallows in chat. Gamecube controller is goated. Nintendo redesigned it for westerners slightly larger hands and I've never felt ergonomics quite like it since.

  • @Mordaedil
    @Mordaedil 8 місяців тому +3

    I didn't have any of these glitches in my playthrough of Violet, but I did experience the slowdown and framerate issues. And I still had a good time playing them, so I think time will look favorably upon it.

    • @grotus5549
      @grotus5549 3 дні тому

      I clipped through the ground and softlocked myself in the first hour on the release build. It only really got better after months of post-launch patches to fix the game in time for its overly expensive dlc.

  • @Masquerade908-go8if
    @Masquerade908-go8if 9 місяців тому +2

    My favorite part of the reaction was when Alana saw "KITTY!" (Sprigatito) 😻 Can't get enough of best kitty starter. 22:13

    • @rtbear674
      @rtbear674 9 місяців тому

      The one I feel betrayed the most was Litten. That's not how I imagine the 2nd evolution would be.

  • @lofiseeker1790
    @lofiseeker1790 6 днів тому +1

    Petition to make Stumpy an Actual mon that goes from ghost grass type to a full grown tree and loses ghost type in its last form and replaces it with grass water.

  • @localshaman
    @localshaman 2 місяці тому +2

    Okay the bugs thing was way over blown. People got it early (Both S/W and Sc/Vi) and the emulators weren't compatible so they glitched out. There were a couple issues with the actual release but nowhere near what people were making out.

  • @jaidora
    @jaidora 8 місяців тому +2

    To boil down all of my thoughts, the Pokémon series has peaked well over 20 years ago but there’s no definitive answer on which set of games were the greatest. You have Emerald, Platinum, Heart Gold, Soul Silver, and the Gen 5 games. At some point, without any personal bias, the original fans who grew up with the series have been slowly losing interest and in GF attempt to find a new audience they’ve never branched outside of their older audiences. The Pokémon designs used to be simple and easy, some were given more real life references and inspirations like Son Wukon and Japanese yokai, but lately the designs have gotten too overdrawn and lost all sense of subtlety. There are still creative ideas in the recent Pokémon games, including Sword/Shield, Legends Arceus, and Scarlet/Violet but they’re either underdeveloped, never got enough development, failed to deliver a fulfilling experience, or any combination of the above. They’ve become products with dwindling passion and the fans, in return, aren’t willing to leave the franchise but are eager to voice their disdain.

  • @johnarcher6150
    @johnarcher6150 Рік тому +5

    Shadow is based, the hero we truely needed

  • @jacksullivan4741
    @jacksullivan4741 Рік тому +5

    Here's my relationship with Pokemon I enjoy the games up until gen 4 and I enjoy the anime up until Misty leaves and that's my stopping point after that it gets really complicated though personally I'm more of a Digimon fan but that's a separate discussion

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      God you’re such a nostalgia Junkie the games are still good far better in fact and the anime was good till Ash stopped being the MC.

  • @mythoceanas8874
    @mythoceanas8874 9 місяців тому +20

    I think 7th Gen was the last generally popular generation with Sun and Moon. Which ended the era of Gamboy Pokémon.
    People were basically expecting Breath of the Wild with Pokémon for the 8th Gen and we got Let’s Go Games and Sword & Shield.

    • @lionheartt15
      @lionheartt15 8 місяців тому

      hey be fair sword and shield gave us the gym milf but yeah otherwise your right

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому +1

      They’re just as good as breath of the wild is.

    • @grotus5549
      @grotus5549 3 дні тому

      ​@@Taz-ey4jlLegends Arceus, maybe.
      Let's Go or Sword & Shield? Hell nah.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 3 дні тому

      @@grotus5549 Yeah they’re

  • @JackedSunBeare
    @JackedSunBeare Рік тому +25

    That tail has no business being THAT thicc! すごいでかい!

  • @eternalsummer8409
    @eternalsummer8409 7 місяців тому +1

    Hard to belive this is the same group of companies that created Pokémon black and white, and mystery dungeon time and darkness, truly they have fallen

  • @skotnica93
    @skotnica93 3 місяці тому +1

    The problem with artists switching mediums like from 2d to 3d, they lose everything they learned with what they were used to. A good example is the first 3d Berserk anime.

  • @lionheartt15
    @lionheartt15 8 місяців тому +3

    I am not sorry to say but a lot of modern problems with pokemon is how generic it is now. you look at a lot of the creature designs and they don't feel like pokemon but instead more like generic magical battle creature

  • @falion609
    @falion609 8 місяців тому +4

    At least pokemon Arceus was gold (except the cuality)

  • @jaydenliberty9536
    @jaydenliberty9536 Рік тому +31

    The day I decided to stop playing S/V because I wasn’t enjoying it anymore broke me inside because Pokémon Sapphire was my first ever video-game I’ve owned, and I’ve beaten every other Pokémon game I’ve played
    I couldn’t even get to badge 2 before I was forcing myself to keep going

    • @AshesVoid
      @AshesVoid 8 місяців тому +2

      Sounds like a personal problem gen 9 is my 3rd favorite gen ever

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      It’s my favorite gen if I willfully shut out my nostalgia for gen 4 because nostalgia blindess is terrible.

  • @MasterofInterspace
    @MasterofInterspace Рік тому +2

    9:30 "they took the best parts of their home and handled consoles..." It's the wii u again but slimmer. Yeah, the graphics are better, but at least the Wii U had controllers that worked for more than three months. In fact, i still got all the original bits that came with the wii u, and the wii before. I have a graveyard of fucking switch controllers.

  • @kalashydra9016
    @kalashydra9016 8 місяців тому +1

    54:25 gamefreak may not develop the games but they are the ones who set the template/standart for those games

  • @spiderraccoon7869
    @spiderraccoon7869 Рік тому +21

    Here’s something I think about a lot: old Pokémon games had bugs too. The first game had some mechanical issues, like some moves not working (there’s a move that’s supposed to increase attack power, but it actually decreased it) and there’s a 1/256 bug where 100% hit moves have a 1/256 chance of missing. Thing is, I didn’t learn about these until recently. They aren’t obvious glitches. That’s part of the problem to me, anyone can see the problems nowadays. The original game wasn’t perfect, but it visually worked and it wasn’t obvious it had some issues. Now games release too soon and you can just immediately tell its buggy.

    • @ceshmate1953
      @ceshmate1953 Рік тому +6

      not only that... those are the first fkn games. Who cares ?
      Now we have multiple games, tons of money yet still fkn problems and lies. That is problematic.

    • @spiderraccoon7869
      @spiderraccoon7869 Рік тому +4

      That’s actually a really good point. I read that and it made me think of an opinion I have had for a while: that I think games aren’t anymore broken than they were back in the day. Like yeah, there were broken games back then, but now with your comment I’m thinking…those games had an excuse of being some of the first games. Nowadays games don’t have that same excuse.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      The old glitches and bugs are far worse than modern day ones at least the modern day are entertaining and not going to make you lose a battle or some other horrible thing.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      @@ceshmate1953Stop making excuses for your old ass games nostalgia junkies.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      @@spiderraccoon7869That ain’t an excuse nostalgia junkie.

  • @TheAurgelmir
    @TheAurgelmir 10 місяців тому +14

    Black and White was a sort of "reboot" of the series, where they originally didn't include any pokemon from the past.
    I think that might have been a good idea for the Switch too. Just say: We need to start over, since there's a lot of work that needs to go into this.
    We survived with just 150 pokemons back in the day. I'm sure we can do it again.

    • @TheKnizzine
      @TheKnizzine 9 місяців тому

      They also need to have time to cook not be forced to keep pace with the show but that will never happen because that is the side of things that actually prints money.

    • @EmberQuill
      @EmberQuill 9 місяців тому +2

      After all the drama around Sword/Shield trimming down the Pokedex, I think fans would outright riot if they cut ALL the previous Pokemon. Some of the drama was because it was poorly communicated and the justification didn't make a lot of sense, but some of it was just "You didn't put my favorite Pokemon in this game!"
      Personally I think it would be better too, but they unfortunately established the precedent of transferring Pokemon forward to newer games very early on with Gold/Silver, and changing that would piss off a lot of people. The actual target audience of children would probably be fine with it, I suppose.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      It wasn’t meant to be a reboot that’s just y’all guys coping it was the first game not to have a region based on Japan it makes zero sense to every single Pokemon in one region especially when they aren’t close together geographically because that how it is in real life!

    • @TheAurgelmir
      @TheAurgelmir 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Taz-ey4jl Why so accusatory? Why say people are coping? Was I even being negative?
      No.
      I said that the Black/White approach was a good idea for the Switch. And I called it a reboot of sorts. Call it a soft reboot if you will. The point is, they deliberately chose to move away from the past pokemon, which was a good idea. Most people don't pay attention to the setting as such. Especially since the concept of "different settings have distinctly different pokemon" was thrown out the window more or less instantly.
      Again: It would make sense for Sword and Shield too, no? Since it's obviously based on the British Isles. All they did was have some different evolutions/versions of familiar pokemon

  • @HumanPerson_final
    @HumanPerson_final Місяць тому +2

    No fanbase copes as hard as the Pokémon fanbase. I love Pokémon, but the way they release these games is inexcusable and most new designs are not good.

  • @tytheguy13andahalf
    @tytheguy13andahalf 10 місяців тому +2

    Its unfortunate that gamefreak does not understand how to optimize their games.

  • @kalashydra9016
    @kalashydra9016 8 місяців тому +1

    36:05 but they fit the design and made them look like they could ACTUALI exist , not like the modern half digested vomit creatures that copy whatever the designer looked that day (lyterali trash, keys, car , fridge , aple pie , donut fucking dog, ice-cream)

  • @erasablefallen7223
    @erasablefallen7223 9 місяців тому +1

    ngl, the new bike Pokemon kind of remind me of Captain Gundam from the SD tv series turning into a bike...feel old yet? lol

  • @TotallyCluelessGamer
    @TotallyCluelessGamer 7 місяців тому +1

    So I've seen a series do menu prompt stores well. The World Ends With You series does a really good job with giving their shops all a unique vibe while also being just menus that pop up. The shops being menus in Pokemon would be forgivable if the menus weren't so cookie cutter they looked like stock assets.

    • @TotallyCluelessGamer
      @TotallyCluelessGamer 7 місяців тому

      Lucario to Meowscarada is a false equivalency. Lucario was always humanoid, there is no stage of its like wherein it isn't humanoid. Meowscarada and Incineroar both start off as normal cats and at varying points in their evolution just decided to be people.
      That's not even mentioning the last sighting of a cat that evolves and isn't humanoid when it does so was Generation 5, which was 14 years ago.

    • @TotallyCluelessGamer
      @TotallyCluelessGamer 7 місяців тому

      Another thing the video missed. The issue isn't that they used and upscaled old assets, the issue is that they said they were scaling back on things like the National Dex so they could improve the animations and models, and then were proven to have just used the old models and very few new animations anyway.

  • @ark5074
    @ark5074 Рік тому +13

    I remember when the gen 4 remakes were announced. I saw the tease at the beginning and then when the game was shown all my hopes and dreams just died. Gen 4 was my childhood and just seeing Gamefreak butcher it was incredibly disappointing. Now I’ve given up on Pokémon because it’s just gonna keep going downhill.

    • @wea69420
      @wea69420 10 місяців тому +2

      Fan games have overtaken gamefreak on every factor

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      Y’all were the ones crying about the Chibi designs from the pre gen 6 days being gone they just didn’t realize you wanted that 2D pixel crap back too.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      @@wea69420Nope fan games are terrible.

    • @wea69420
      @wea69420 7 місяців тому

      @@Taz-ey4jl there's not a single gamefreak release that does anything better than radical red is doing right now

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 7 місяців тому

      @@wea69420 Sure keep telling yourself that.🫳🫳🫳🫳

  • @TurKlack
    @TurKlack 11 місяців тому +5

    I think the worst kind of coping defenders are the ones that should know it better. My brother is a lot smarter than I am, more intelligent, and yet he just makes excuses for Pokemon. Excuses for problems he's not shy to blame other companies for, when they do it, but when it's pokemon he switches to defense mode.
    It's frustrating.

  • @ImRaging7F
    @ImRaging7F 4 місяці тому +1

    I feel like the debate of gen 1-4 is that their was evolution to designs and imagination and passed that is slowly de-evolved into a cute and safe dynamic. Yes gen 1 had problems but somehow people over look it was the first game compared to the what 9th? Even the lets go games ruined the gen 1 designs.

  • @poqqery8950
    @poqqery8950 6 місяців тому

    Honestly, peak Pokemon for me was Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky. Not a main series title, sure, but damn that game was perfect in so many ways.

  • @abicrystalwing1543
    @abicrystalwing1543 Місяць тому

    The Shadow quote was taken out of the context. In that game, the main antagonist are a race of aliens called the "black arms." So it just became a running joke that Shadow was actually racist when he said stuff like that.

  • @mikeydudek2885
    @mikeydudek2885 6 місяців тому +1

    Speaking of sonic and early 2000s gamers, you need to do a stream on our lord and savior Christ-Chan and the Sonichu merge!

  • @TheROZOZOZO
    @TheROZOZOZO 3 місяці тому

    gen 3 is peak but i like 4 too, after that straight into the woodchipper

  • @olotocolo
    @olotocolo 2 дні тому

    Counter to counter point. Yes there were cutesy pokemon in gen1. Can you show thsoe sharp edged, detailed ones in newest gen? If not then yes, it was rounded and cutsiefied

  • @MouseyGaang
    @MouseyGaang 17 годин тому +1

    No Alana. the peak was Gen 5. Everything went downhill after Black and White 2.

  • @vehlinge
    @vehlinge 4 місяці тому

    Spent a lot of time on sonic adventure 2….on the Dreamcast. Made playing battle on GameCube a breeze.
    Also, where peripherals are concerned, Nintendo really is so far in the lead it looks like they have no competition. The switch controllers versatility is fucking outrageous. Equally outrageous is the primary drawback they’ve always had: they are made for children and ppl with small hands.

  • @Daigon95
    @Daigon95 5 місяців тому +1

    I sort of lost care for Dedicated servers once I realize that it be easier to revive a game's multiplayer via fans, if it was p2p.
    Yea ur more likely to hav a more unstable exp if it comes to games that require low input latency and quick reaction, like fighting games for example, but I rather come back to a game via emulation many yrs down the line where I can find a small community who has revived it from the dead.
    It's still possible to revive multi if it was made for dedicated servers, but it would require alot of time and effort to make it function and have a consistent server that you have to pay for monthly/yearly.

  • @pokeng
    @pokeng 8 місяців тому +1

    My counter argument against arguments that states that games are much more than just graphical fidelity, when it comes to the switch is, well look at Monster Hunter World.

  • @Flashman024
    @Flashman024 Рік тому +1

    I started with Yellow on the gameboy pocket lol. God that makes me feel old. Then Blue (a friend had Red, easy trading). Then Silver, Crystal, Ruby, Fire Red, Soul Silver.
    I tried Diamond but it was only 'ok' for me. Didn't dislike it, but felt no need to ever replay it either. That was the beginning of the end for me. Cause after that I tried Black (from black and white. Gen 5 iirc), and it didn't hook me at all. Didn't enjoy the story, the pokemon designs, the location. Nothing about it worked for me. Never finished it and have 0 desire to EVER finish it. That was the end of new Pokemon for me.
    For me SS and HG was the peak of pokemon. And having your pokemon follow you around was just so neat.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      God you’re such a sad nostalgia junkie Pokemon never lost it’s spark for me.

    • @Flashman024
      @Flashman024 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Taz-ey4jl Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. You still love pokemon even with how buggy and lazy its gotten with its recent releases? Maybe try Palworld instead? If you need to get your pokemon fix still...

  • @a1mightydeath903
    @a1mightydeath903 Рік тому +10

    I have bought, played, and beaten every pokemon game (with the exclusion of ruby & sapphire) from gen 3 onward, including both releases of every game (I.E Diamond & Pearl), but only started buying 1 of each once Gen 6 started… Now I feel that Violet will by my last pokemon game which makes me sad. Finding myself having less and leas fun with the newer releases sucks.
    If I am to buy any future Pokémon games then I’ll probably have to watch a few reviews first instead of just relying on past games enjoyment fueling my purchase sadge

  • @localshaman
    @localshaman 2 місяці тому +1

    I will die on this hill, they need to go back to 2D sprite games.

  • @yumri4
    @yumri4 10 місяців тому +1

    Really if you need to make every single asset in a game from nothing 6 years is kind of quick. Now we have games that can and do use base assets as is the normal practice now in 3D model devlopment to save on time of redoing what you already did but it leads to forgetting how to do what you did to get to the point that the 3D model was close to what was wanted so more polygons were made to cover up mistakes and a note was made to fix it later. Later never comes and that is the issue with many long lasting devlopment studios that have a common code base for everything.

  • @Krendall2
    @Krendall2 Місяць тому

    Regarding the Pokémon designs, is Ken Sugimori still the head of character design? If not, it could be someone just imitating his art style, which would explain if the look has changed.
    47:08 That's how a lot of 2D animation is done now.

  • @jjc5871
    @jjc5871 23 дні тому

    All those people saying Pokémon only got bad after any Gen 7 game or after never played the older games. The last good Pokemon games were in Gen 5, Black 2 and White 2. Every game after that was so incredibly easy they were insanely boring.

  • @MasterofInterspace
    @MasterofInterspace Рік тому +8

    50:20 Stop. What the fuck comparison is this? "Oh, you don't like the champion's team? Well, look at this Team Rocket Executive's team. Yeah, it's five koffing and a weezing. Argument destroyed." Okay, well, when you're done fucking up that straw man, can we compare this champion team to the other champion teams?

    • @officiallyjan8596
      @officiallyjan8596 8 місяців тому +1

      He really does give some and takes and uses some weird lines of logic that don't make sense.
      Like, he completely disregards the argument that newer games cram in a ton of overly humanified pokemon with the argument that gen 1 had the machop line as if that invalidates the point, even though there were only a few humanified pokemon to *that* extent in gen 1 and all of them were still *less* humanoid than the modern ones.

    • @MasterofInterspace
      @MasterofInterspace 8 місяців тому +1

      @@officiallyjan8596 frankly, Hitmonchan and Mr. Mime are more humanoid. The Machop line are primarily lizardmen. Don't know what humans have a maw or a tail.

    • @officiallyjan8596
      @officiallyjan8596 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MasterofInterspace Thing is, the gen 1 humanoids are fewer in number and *less* humanoid than the later gens. The newer gens have *multiple* pokemon in detailed outfits that are just somehow natural parts of their body, while only hitmonchan was like that in the first gen. (And arguably the Machop line, but I'd argue the snouts do a lot of heavy lifting to keep them animalistic)

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      @@officiallyjan8596God keep coping and crying about humanoid Pokemon that were just as plentiful back then as they’re are now because if you only count Pokemon per gen nostalgia junkie.

    • @Taz-ey4jl
      @Taz-ey4jl 8 місяців тому

      @@MasterofInterspaceGod that’s some serious cope right there since you wouldn’t apply the same argument for Intelleon, Lucario, Grimmsnarl, among many others that are about as human looking as the Machop line these Pokemon looks like crap when they aren’t humanoid.

  • @Tang-qi6zw
    @Tang-qi6zw 9 місяців тому +1

    I will say about pokemon, at least it doesn't need a 5GB+ patch on launch day to work, unlike western AAA titles, though pokemon has been increasingly western since like Gen IV. I love platinum, but man diamond and pearl really suffered in pace for non interactive elements.
    But the games were VERY unfinished. GF/Nintendo REALLY need to contract out a lot of the work or spend more time in development. Pokemon doesn't NEED to be an annual release. Or if it does, release ports of the older games. Like re-release RBY again to delay the game, and re-release Gen 1 stuff for the TCG. Or GBC and gen 2, or RSE and Gen 3. Or FrLg and Gen 1. They have so much that they could both spend more time to make actually great games (like the Zelda franchise) and still fucking print money.
    I also have to defend Nintendo a bit because Mario and Zelda are also giant nintendo franchises, and they don't suffer from pokemon's issues. GF is the isolated factor there. GF really sucks at programming (seeing how barely Gen 1 functions, and how easy Gen IV is to break), and they don't do better rushing themselves to keep up with the whole multimedia of the TCG and toys.

    • @Tang-qi6zw
      @Tang-qi6zw 9 місяців тому

      I commented too Early. Yeah, I guess more time and investment. Better outsourcing doesn't work.

  • @robxholicfoxyfan8552
    @robxholicfoxyfan8552 8 місяців тому

    I love Sandaconda and Buzzwole though. I called my Buzzwole Mansquito. It literally does situps and squats in gen 7, and sleeps like a macho man sometimes when you open up the petting thing. It's also an alien Pokemon which is why it's weird anyways. Plus Jynx and Mr. Mime exist so a Buff mosquito is already better in comparison.

  • @kaiishere016
    @kaiishere016 Рік тому +7

    I remember playing gen 7 when it came out and it just didn't have that spark for me... I still haven't finished it, it just completely lost my interest.
    Since then I've just been looking on the new games with a thousand yard stare :(

    • @kaiishere016
      @kaiishere016 Рік тому +1

      All I want is just a real-time 3D third-person Pokemon game where you have to command your Pokemon to dodge and attack on MMO-style cooldowns while making sure your trainer doesn't get hit by rogue attacks, way more crazy anime-style moves and visuals, no tedious EV/IV/ability/nature system, an actually fleshed-out open world, good story, a more 16+ tone, mega-evolutions, none of the worst gen 8&9 Pokemon, a full pokedex, Pokemon customisation and visual differences between individual Pokemon, a higher / no learned move limit, HMs being built into the Pokemon (based on if they should naturally be able to fly, surf, etc), fairy types to no longer be immune to dragon types, the return of ORAS soaring when using fly, the dropping of the alternate timeline and Ultra Space shenanigans, an enemy team that doesn't look super stupid (all of them have since gen 4, don't @ me), cool but forgotten anime-only and spin-off locations returning, an overall harder difficulty, a full Battle Frontier, more realistically-sized towns and cities, a larger region, the return of secret bases in some form......... Is that so hard.....?
      Maybe it is hard but they're the largest multimedia franchise ever so no excuses >:T
      Also make a Pokemon Z already. And completely remake the Galar and Paldea games, those regions deserve justice

  • @leescrase7086
    @leescrase7086 6 місяців тому +1

    Objectively the games haven really changed. It follows the same core gameplay loop. All the changes that we see are subjective. The newer versions will never compare to what we had growing up because its competeing against your childhood memories. In the same vain the older gen games could never stand up to the newer gen because they are competeing against the views of modern gamers (the next generation of kids).
    Mimus the bugs that sneak in, its all subjective. Remember that those obove the age of eating bogies are not the target demographic.

  • @grotus5549
    @grotus5549 3 дні тому

    I just finished replaying BW for the first time in years. I had so much fun with it than I had with SwSh or BDSP or SV that it makes me sad that the standard for Pokemon has fallen so low.
    Sure there's some novelty to Let's Go's silly take on the Kanto games and Legends Arceus as the first Pokemon game of its kind, but Pokemon's post-3DS era has been so horribly mid that I can't see myself ever wanting to come back to these games for those nostalgic feels 10 years after release except for those two novelties.

  • @knowlzer
    @knowlzer 8 місяців тому

    On the N64 I played golden eye and Mario golf all the time

  • @SamuelPulkkinen-jp8ev
    @SamuelPulkkinen-jp8ev Рік тому +1

    I've been way more interested in Pokemon TTRPGs than mainline pokemon games for a long time now. Why naively wait for GameFreak/Nintendo to expand Pokemon's potential and make my dream-pokemon game when I can make it myself?

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors Рік тому +1

    Yeah, I don’t recommend actually going to your classes at school. To many models to LOOOOOOOAAAAD and the frame rate bombs.

  • @dustiestspade339
    @dustiestspade339 10 місяців тому +1

    I can pick out a gen sun and moon was good with the first but feel off the bed and shit itself on sun and moon 2

  • @bigwrymm
    @bigwrymm 7 місяців тому

    I'll never forget uncircumcised snake

  • @TheWeirdDinosaur
    @TheWeirdDinosaur 11 місяців тому +2

    cynthia wasn't hard, people need to stop saying she was

  • @Jonesbringer
    @Jonesbringer Рік тому +2

    I think i have played more pixelmon then actual pokemon. That’s probably because pokemon got boring over time. At least with pixelmon there’s a lot more you can do.

  • @alidan
    @alidan Рік тому +2

    On the audio, the video itself is about 10-15% of my volume, and you are about 25-40% it does make watching your videos a bit hard though speakers because I can't turn them up high enough to hear the video well without letting everyone in a 30 foot radius of me hear you loud and clear as well.
    for what its worth, if you are going to pause videos while taking the video can be louder, if you are going to talk over them, then you need to be the prominent voice.

    • @alidan
      @alidan Рік тому +1

      watched a bit more, in, given you are clipping the audio on your mic but not even 50% on meters means youtube is doing some shit with your audio, may be worth experimenting.

    • @SmugAlana
      @SmugAlana  Рік тому

      if you can timestamp it, that'd be great but idk what you're talking about atm

  • @here4good
    @here4good 9 місяців тому +2

    Of course I come across this in my recommendations, right when the Palworld craze begins

  • @blastchaos4286
    @blastchaos4286 Місяць тому

    This guy just made a whole thing about how people cherrypick when it comes to designs, but then proceeds to do the exact same thing about animations

  • @Hashashyuun
    @Hashashyuun 9 місяців тому +1

    "Prejusteel" 52:18

  • @isengarde9490
    @isengarde9490 10 місяців тому

    8:57 Okay fine my search history is fucked as it is.
    Yes, that is straight unedited audio from the game. And it's not even just Shadow saying "black creatures", Sonic is racist too.
    It is one of the greatest games I've ever seen, the story writers knew exactly what they were doing with that. Shit his girlfriend was shot by the cops cause she was a furry, and he was a black animal thing. It is so unapologetically a parody game that I want to buy a console to play it on. Hell, at the end of the game the white men take all the credit for everything Shadow did to beat his absentee father.

  • @RaineAshe
    @RaineAshe 6 місяців тому +1

    I know this vid is old. But what the actual fuck was that footage from scarlet/violet. I have played since launch and have never ONCE come across any if that

  • @draw2death421
    @draw2death421 8 місяців тому

    Monster Hunter Rise is a Switch game yet even in that you can see Large monsters from one side of the map to the other lmao.

  • @Camron-cy9vo
    @Camron-cy9vo 2 місяці тому

    After gen 5 it was downhill, gen 3 and 4 where peak.

  • @mikeydudek2885
    @mikeydudek2885 6 місяців тому

    Idc, gen 1 was, and will always be, the best and also the only Pokémon I will acknowledge. The rest are from a different reality imo.

  • @wodensthrone5215
    @wodensthrone5215 10 місяців тому +1

    Ken Sugimoris art and pokemon designs were much better for the most part.
    Everything is way too humanoid now and doesn't even fit the original "Pocket Monster" concept.

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 25 днів тому

    Wish Platinum got a port to the switch

  • @Stargazing_night_sky
    @Stargazing_night_sky 10 місяців тому

    5:39 think she meant 3 because 4 was on the gamecube lol

  • @FreezyNinjaAlt-hj1mu
    @FreezyNinjaAlt-hj1mu 8 місяців тому

    40:30 NAH NAH NAH. To hell with ANYONE that blames the EXTREMELY VALID CRITICISM that these trash games get on "nostalgia". That's BS and anyone with a functioning brain knows it.

  • @ZenoDovahkiin
    @ZenoDovahkiin 7 місяців тому +1

    Ayo don't do Wishiwashi like that. Granted, it's English name ain't it but the concept of a sardine/pilchard that is tiny and pathetic but does what that kind of fish is famous for, by turning into a huge swarm which is realised as an alternate form where it's a huge monster fish the size and weight of a grown ass man made up of small fish as long as it's hp are up is cool af and as much as I don't wanna shit on Milotic Wishiwashi does not deserve to be put into the same category as "let's just do Magicarp again but this time design it for the horny people and make it super rare."

  • @evilsock12
    @evilsock12 2 місяці тому

    pokemon has never been technologically well made series.

  • @ujiltromm7358
    @ujiltromm7358 8 місяців тому

    Oh boy. Online Splatoon. Imagine playing a shooter that is competently made from a graphics standpoint with a rock solid 60 FPS, intense gameplay, replayability through the roof, marketed with its competitive aspect... did I say competitive? PEER-TO-PEER, WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO MAKE TEAMS. And even through P2P, on a local network, there were issues. Going online with a full team put the players in teams at random. It was bad. Splatoon's solo mode is enjoyable enough, but it's a massive missed opportunity on the esports aspect. Oh yeah, that also means one of the Switches has to run the server that hosts the game. Greeaaaaaaaaaaat...
    An offline Splatoon tournament almost turned to cheating allegations when a team's player disconnected as the game was about to be lost TWICE (I think it was a finale of Germany vs France), only for an opposing team's member to end up doing the same on the verge of winning in the third game... Bad netcode, bad design, bad network architecture...

  • @marcusclark1339
    @marcusclark1339 5 місяців тому

    gen 1 era mons weren't that weak even those examples were still strong, but newer gens have gotten weaker, casualization of design, it has fallen off which is why they don't hit as much as older simpler designs have

  • @ColdRoland
    @ColdRoland 5 місяців тому

    If you've never encountered a bug in a Pokemon game before S&V you must not have played very many of them...or paid any attention.

  • @infernalsaxon
    @infernalsaxon Рік тому +1

    Pokemon are tulpa and yokai that breed.

  • @YURTZYN42
    @YURTZYN42 7 місяців тому

    I feel the only real thing keeping modern pokemon games afloat (besides legends arceus cuz that game is actually godlike) is the fact that modern games in general are just so ass. I told my brother S/V ain't my thing, but it's still better than 80% of junk being pumped out nowadays.

  • @chaosXP3RT
    @chaosXP3RT 8 місяців тому

    16:30 HAL Laboratory makes Super Smash Bros

  • @yugoxgc
    @yugoxgc 9 місяців тому

    The only Buggy ones I played were amulated after I used cheatcodes. I was too poor to have original releases