Why You Shouldn't Start on a Supersport Motorcycle - Sportbikes Suck
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2018
- Getting into mototrcycles? This is a humorous explanation as to why you should avoid any 600cc 750cc and 1000cc sport bike as a starter. I'm not telling you what would be the best beginner bike in this video, I'm just telling you which ones are the absolute worst. Buckle up buttercup, I got alot to say.
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“Safety isn’t always fun. Just ask your baby daddy.” 😂😂 wrap it up fellas
Kyle W don’t be silly, wrap your Willy.
Don’t be a fool, wrap your tool!
I just a bought my very first bike the honda grom and I was all excited to ride it around town, practice on the parking lot or ride by the levy. I told my friend who has a gsxr 1000 and instead of being excited for me too or at least welcome me to the motorcycle culture, he made fun of my bike saying I bought it at toys r us. He told me to return it because its too small. Texted all my friends and made fun of me. I was pissed and kind of disappointed why they are hating on my bike. I thought bikers love all sorts of bikes. Anyways I told him I'm keeping the bike.
Wet Rain get BETTER friends. Ones that tell you positive, encouraging words. Besides, there's time to move up when ur ready & u may even still keep the Grom for some low-consequences good times!
Your GSXR1000 "friend" is a narcissist who has to make everything about him and his choices. Groms are fucking bad ass. I want one but I'm all out of space to keep one right now.
Thank you guys for the advice and positivity. Yup I definitely keeping the grom. I have so much fun with it. I never talked to that gsxr asshole "friend" again. Im planning to take the safety course too next month.
I'm glad you were sensible and didn't allow peer pressure make you do something you'll regret. My biggest suggestion at this point is learn to be calm, be loose, and be smooth with the controls/inputs and absolutely learn to counter steer. Learn the concept of counter-steering as if it was the only important thing in the world.
Fuck that guy. He's probably a squid anyways.
And here I'm driving a 110cc bike since last 6 years
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1 like = +10cc
Edit : 200cc not bad 😢
Edit 2 : thanks for likes bought a new ktm rc390 ❤💘
150 cc not bad
i was riding a 150cc underbone for 6 years, upgrade to 150cc 2 strokes. want a 250cc but its too pricey for me,.hahaha
You got 460cc
730cc
Looks like you are up to a ZX-14 now lol
Took the MSF course and jumped on an 800cc naked bike. Had a few oh shit moments, but I got the hang of things rather quickly. A year later I'm still alive and accident free including drops *knock on wood*. One thing I learned is never try to keep up with your friends who are more experienced . Just ride within your skill level and don't push it! Keep your following distance, develop muscle memory, squeeze the brake lever (Don't grab), look through the curves, and always keep your head on a swivel especially at intersections.
I don't regret starting on a large cc bike, but I'm 32 and got alot of the crazy out of my system early on. I would never look down on someone for starting out small. Respect the bike and know if you don't, that bike will show you who is the boss in a very bad way.
very well said!
Señor Kittens, When I started riding, we could ride up our street and into the hills on whatever you had. So I started on a Yamaha 80 when I was about 10 years old. As I grew up I had a175 2 stroke, then a 350, a whole bunch of different dirt bikes, then an FZ6. Today I am 63 years old and ride a 2013 Honda CB 1000 R naked bike. I’ve been riding over 50 years, and I still think everyone should learn on small displacement bikes until they improve their skills. Today there is so many good choices to choose from, why not?
Best advice you can give to new riders.
Now, if only they would listen...
I did very similar and couldnt agree more. Also I'm similar age and had many fast toys growing up but not bikes.
I had dirtbike experience and took the msf course. Then my first bike was a gsxr 750. Against the advice of a lot of youtuber motorcycle experts lol. I wasn't completely new to bikes but I wasn't exactly an experienced rider. Mostly new to the road and to sportbikes. But I already understood clutch/throttle control, braking, etc. Even still the bike made me nervous with the amount of power and the throttle sensitivity. I'm happy with my decision but to someone who has no clutch/throttle experience and has never been on a bike I'd say it's a mistake. You'll be scared, as you should be. You will have more fun as a beginner on something like a supermoto. And you'll become a skilled rider much faster than starting on a supersport. But if you go the supersport route it doesn't mean youre going to die, as a lot of people make it seem. But you have to be 100x more careful because it's so much easier to fuck up
I started on a 600, now ride an 800, but here is my best tip... Before buying your first bike, find a good instructor or riding school and do some extra classes. Obstacle courses, beginner track training, rookie dirt training. It will do wonders. Then buy your first bike.
in Norway you have to do that if you want or not and pass all the courses to get a mc licence.
if you are from big city try to make experience by riding in traffic also beware the car doors
I started riding a 650 also. Just take it easy.😅😅😉
Started with k6 600. During 4 years did +25k km, and fell of the bike 3x, fortunately nothing harsh.
started on a 125 in the forest, then quickly broke my spine and spent a summer in hospital. restarted on a 600 13 years later thought "hey, i have experience" ... it's a totally different universe :D this spring i though "hey, i have this 600 for a couple of years now, i want something bigger and stronger" ... took it to the track and .... i still love and have that 600 :) the current 600 bikes are just too strong already for normal road usage. i'll get a liter bike next year, because .... there's no sane reason for that :)
Russian dominatrix and costs as much... So you have experience with?
That feeling of progression is something you can never get back if you start on a hi-speed machine. I am so grateful that I started on a 550, then a 600, then a 750, and now a 900. Each one was more rewarding than the last.
I did the MSF course on their Grom in October and then went and bought a Yamaha 2008 FZ6 600CC naked bike and rode it through the cold winter when snow wasn't on the ground. Somehow haven't killed myself yet.
EDIT: Actually crashed very shortly after writing this. Wearing a thing on my neck and wrist. Crashed around 60 MPH gong off an unfamiliar exit and wound up with a brain injury where I didn't remember anything for three days afterwards or the accident itself. Probably a bit of shale on the ground and a bit too much front brake for the front to slide out considering the license plate is on the side and bent forward. Ended up with a torn seat, scratched integrated tail light, bent plate, and missing some pegs on my shift lever. It runs fine thankfully avoiding a salvaged title, but if it weren't for my $70 frame slide I doubt it would've ended so well. All the gear is scraped to hell except for the gloves and boots which have minor damage but are still usable. Had I not been wearing full gear I might not be here today and I'd at least have a lot more road rash without a doubt and a cracked skull had I not been wearing a helmet. Just thought I'd let you guys know I'd be alright. Give it a little while for the neck brace to be taken off and I'll be back on it.
That's why we wear gear.
Also, when you're ready to get back to riding, do yourself a favor and take more training classes. Obviously, I wasn't there when you dumped it, but the advanced rider course from the MSF covers things that can help prevent problems like that.
I've been fairly fortunate in my riding to never dump it going more than a couple miles an hour, but you'd be surprised how hard your head can hit the pavement just falling over.
Kellin Quinn happy to hear you're somewhat OK man.
Kellin Quinn you jinxed yourself with your 1st post. It's a known fact that riders drop their bike, at least once. You can't call yourself a true rider, without falling once, and getting the courage to get back on and ride again.
Thanks for owning up to it and i hope you made a speedy recovery
Thanks for worrying about me :)
*buys the h2 as my first bike just after watching the vid
Started on a 600cc. ...from UA-cam to Craigslist to the Streets...lol..str8 up
MyricalLyrical Just be careful and know all the controls like the back of your hand before u attempt..Clutch Play/friction zone practice is first...don't be Scared be cautious. ...Respect the POWER!...OR IT
WILL MAKE YOU!
Hardcore
Same. Everyone on youtube was saying to buy a 300, 250, 500, 650 etc.. but when I bought my 600, I was just patient with myself and now after a year I ride it like a champ and am looking into liters now
a 600 dosnt have too be a bamboo super rocket that goes 60mph i 2sec...my xj600 only has 61 hp. ;) lol if i really push it it still takes over 5sec to 60 ;)
my vote is that SS bikes make the most power way too far up in the rev range, riding them in the city is uncomfortable, and really not a lot of fun. It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast vs fast bike slow
absolutely True !
Except Liter super sports have power all across the rev range! So yeah it’s FUN to ride even in the city
Rider In Red They have some power down Low but the real power comes on at like 11,000 rpm. No beginner can handle that
Not true. My R1 redlines at 13750RPM. How is it going to have the real power come at 11000RPM? It does have a sweetspot and all, sure, over 5000 it gets even more insane, but the literbikes have torque at lower RPMs unlike the 600cc's
Rider In Red If you're buying an r1 for the low end torque then you're on the wrong bike, yes it's a very powerful bike so there's some power in the low end but it's tuned for high revs and that's where you get the crazy power that 1000's are known for.
The MSF course was my only motorcycle experience. Afterwards, I bought a GSXR 750. At 27 I understood what I was getting into. I respected the machine and gradually progressed by riding by myself or riding with Harley’s or cruisers for the first year (best decision I have ever made). Still cruising around Fayetteville on my first bike. Never felt better. Great video.
i've been subbed for a while but you should know that you have a style in your videos that 1) is entertaining as fuck and 2) sets you apart from the rest in the "motovlogging" (lol) scene. you have something going man keep it up
I AM BLUSHING.
Seriously though! I really appreciate your videos! I can hardly sit through other motovloggers but man you keep me grinning! I hope you keep posting!
I agree with the "entertaining" part but I don't know about the "sets you apart" part. The classic music, use of memes, etc. is very much like Yammie Noob
Well done bro. Perfectly put. I started low and progressed and even though I spent a few extra bills, it was worth every penny. The audio is good but I've Never noticed an issue before tho. Shout out from Jers.
Thanks 😆
This is actually a good video. It is partly based on opinion but the end part is true fact, "dont go directly to a sportbike because it will end up as in europe in the long run". Living in Sweden, I could not agree more. What does this mean? Well, it all comes down to cost of ownership. We have had a lot of sportbike crashes in Sweden. Insurance statistics show that one of five sporbikes will be crashed beyond repair during its first year. This is all sportbikes, not only those ridden by new riders but this group does surely help to raise the number of crashed bikes. What does this lead to?
In most countries it is illegal to ride without liability insurance. Since these bikes crash so often and when they do they also crash into things in Sweden liability insurance for a sportbike like a R1 or a R6 costs between $2500-$4000 US per year. If you want full insurance cover be prepared to pay somewhere between $ 3500-$7000 depending on your age, where you live and for how long you have had your bike drivers permit. Yes, insurance alone basically cost you a third of a new bike every year. For a lot of riders this prevents them to own a sportbike, even if they personally are skilled enough to not crash it on their own.
I started on a 1100cc superbike. Never had a problem with it. It's all about dicipline, if you make appointments with yourself such as don't drive to fast if not necesary, you'll be fine. You just need to make sure that you keep yourself to follow your own rules. After all, when starting on a 1100cc, you're not used to anything else so you'll slowly but surely master you're bike.
1100 isn't a superbike, only the leader bikes are considered super bikes anything over is hindering the speed due to weight, also an actual super bike is any GP bike there is
1100cc was suberbike in old days.
This video is funny af 😂👍
You have a way of making videos that keeps people tune and yet you get some true knowledge. Good work keep the videos coming
2:21
Dumb+Fast=Bad
When I noticed it is dangerous and hit the brakes, some people TWIST the THROTTLE!
So I survived 3 times and seen more than 3 idiots running in to the Car.
started 5 months ago on a suzuki SV650 naked. Never rode a motorcycle before had the guy deliver it my apartment. Got the cheapest helmet and gear I could find, started it up and off I went. Took me about 20 minutes before I pulled into a driveway to turn around, stalled the bike and laid her down because I was on an incline. Took me about a week to learn how to ride on the major roads with traffic. I've had a bunch of scary moments since then but never crashed or anything. I'm glad I didnt buy that CBR F4i
Sv 650 ... shieeet that bike's not for starters!
Congrats. Most would consider an sv650 OK for a beginner but it can come come down to the rider's discretion with that one. Glad you're progressing
I love my sv but I still don't know how I feel about recomending it as a true first bike. If you take the MSF you're good to go but I don't know how forgiving it would be to someone who had never touched a motorcycle.
I'm getting my permit this summer and I'm starting on a Honda cbr300r
Good luck!
That's a good choice. You may not even need a bigger bike. Especially if most of your riding is around town. People greatly underestimate how much power those small bikes make these days. I've done at least a couple thousand miles on a Ninja 250r and it's a lot more doable than most people realize.
That Honda probably has fuel injection and a bit more kick to it.
if you want a bike you can keep for a little longer consider the cbr500r (the bike in my thumbnail and my first bike)
Good choice.
Thank you
Your audio is super clear to me, A+ work all around. I'm still a beginner, I think, with about 2yrs riding my old 750 cruiser. I want to try sport bikes but when I get the money together It's probably going to be starting on a 500 or less. My biggest fear is the change in riding position and throttle response. I still have a lot to learn about just being on the machine; after like 6-8wks not riding because of winter I saw how fast my skills degraded on my beat up Petrol Pigeon. Not sure I'm ready for a sport yet.
I used to ride a rebel 250 which has the cruiser riding position. I think part that requires the most getting used to when moving to sportbikes is the foot pegs. The bars arent too hard because they are directly in your vision, but you have to feel around for the foot pegs because after you get used to a bike, it's not something you think about
My first bike was an old 500 Shadow and I put thousands of miles on that badboy. Mistakes on that taught me a lot yet I still had a lot to learn once I bought a sport bike. Totally different styles of riding.
When I sold my ZL600, I got in a debate with a guy that wanted the ZL for his first bike. He didn't like it when I told him that a 30 year old bike was NOT a good choice of bike and he discounted my concerns. He never came and offered me money and I didn't have to cross the bridge of refusing a sale. Trust me, when you get a new bike, you want to RIDE IT not wrench on it and with a 30 year old bike you can wrench on it almost as much as you ride it. Loved your video and this video should be required viewing before a first time rider buys a bike. Keep making good content, I'll keep watching.
Dumb + Fast = Bad
Lol. Mate that was gold.
Eyy ILL you know whats funny i live in Europe and we have to take classes as in 30-50 lessons on a 600cc bike when you are 24 and then a theoretical and a practical exam before you even get licensed period.
a1 and you can upgrade it to A when 21
I'm for a happy medium between the very strict limitations in Europe and the nearly non-existent ones in the U.S. where many riders don't even bother to get a license, insurance, or proper inspection because enforcement is so weak.
Tiitus Puskala After A1 you actually have to get A2 first at 18, then you can go to A at 20
Tiitus Puskala it depends on age at 24 you get A straight away
Tiitus Puskala 21 to A is if u got A2 and A1 since 18 and 19 respectively
When you ride a bike you must learn how it feels like to:
Stall out mid corner and fall.
High-side from too much power in 1st gear and roll.
To truly understand the limits. You don't have to wash out under braking but you have to be able to understand heavy trail braking.
Thank you @illestrator for putting this video out here. This is by far one of the simplest, straight-forward and creative takes one a very popular message for prospective riders. It's been done often, but as responsible, seasoned riders (and content creators) it's an important message that needs frequent refreshing and revisiting for relevance with every new generation of prospective riders. I'm in Atlanta, GA where we see a little bit of every kind of riding style... It also comes with varying kinds of crazy drivers on the roads too. Prospects/newly licensed squids and riders need to remain more than just "vigilant" on the road, but conscientious of their own well being and safety, the safety of other drivers/motorists and their impact on the riding community with their actions. Again, props on the great post.
P.S. The audio sounds great! 👍🏾
Very well said man!
great vid like always
Riding a russian dominatrix.
Sounds fun!
This guy speaks the truth. I was the "permit guy". I got my permit, and immediately got a Ninja 1000, with the whole "I'll take it easy" mentality. I didn't crash, I didn't lose control, didn't even drop it, but it wasn't as fun as it could've been, because I was so focused on keeping the bike under control. I eventually got a Honda Stateline, which isn't even a sportbike, it's a cruiser, but it's way more my speed. My very first ride out of the lot, and I was like "Oh my god I'm never gonna ride that sportbike again. Well, Craigslist time...."
As someone who started on a 13 hp bike. Then moved to a 24 hp one, and now on a 39 hp bike, i must say, using bikes with less power allows you to train your wrist better, you learn to feel the bike a lot more.
It's fun when you try to get everything out of a small bike, that shit won't punish you for a clunky wrist, the street won't become real short when you're approaching top speed, and after you move to a more powerful bike, the learning curve is easy to manage.
One thing is to control a large bike on a beautiful big road without bumps and a reasonable speed limit, another thing is to be able to control the power band of that given bike and have fun with it.
With small bikes you learn to feel the bike, the tyres, the handling, the vibrations, the grip, the soft or snappy throttle input depending on the bike, you just learn to dominate the bike, instead of hoping to not get killed by it in case of a distraction or shock.
Illestrator,
Well not necessary true...
I ride what is considered as both of the Best .
Dominatrix...explains why my ass hurts so much on this dam road.
Ooh whisky throttle, hey lol hasn't heard that term in awhile. Lol
Mine is half sport bike and half touring bike.
Lmfao!
A sports-touring?
Just start on a 1000cc no regrets
*turbo 1000cc
@@Theillestrator1050 turbo 1400*
Liter bike!!
Thank you so much for the video. I just bought my first bike. A 1980 Suzuki GS550. I was looking at a GS850 at the same time for $100 more but decided to go with the smaller one until I get better. After riding for a month I’m so glad I decided for the less powerful one for starting out.
I learned on a 2004 yamaha r6 with no prior experience. However I did grow up driving heavily modified fast cars and waited to buy a motorcycle until I thought my decision making was mature enough for a bike like that. I ride within my skill level and am continuing to grow. You can learn on a sport bike but it all boils down to the decisions you make with it. If you take lots of chances and engage in high risk riding. An r6 will bite your ass bad.
Wow this video is actually almost convincing me not to go buy that ZX6R that I want... :/ see I learned on a 450cc so "starting" on a 300 seems like a huge waste of money.
Fishtailing Z Nigga, I learned through MSF on a 250cc and I rn own a 125cc. You know why I don’t give a fuck? Because I’m not riding a bike to be cool. I’m doing it for the experience. And in order for me to have the best experience without injuring myself I needed to start slow. Don’t let your pride kill you. Don’t let it blind you. Just have fun. 300cc is a 90-100 MPH bike. You’ll have plenty of good fun on that until you have absolutely no doubt about your capabilities. I’m moving onto a 300 from my 125 eventually.
I started 2 wheels with a Tao Tao racer 50, upgraded it to a 150, drove that for a year, then took the MSC and got a 2004 F4i. Very happy with my decision. Great video!
Great video, good content to keep everyone interested till the end. Keep up the great work dude
Thanks for the kind words!
From queens moved to London started on Kawasaki ninja 650 love your vids man keep it up you got my full support bro
Greetings Illestrator, The internet gods put your channel in my queue, and I am highly entertained and informed by your videos. I have recently gotten back into game, (kids are grown) and this is spot on advice. I fancy classic Japanese muscle bikes, 1985 and earlier.I`m 57 now and these are the bikes of my youth. I recently came into possession of two 1980 Yamaha XS 1100s .These machines were the fastest production bikes of their day, and you can be sure I`ll take a safety course and practice,practice,practice.Try never to get in over your head. Peace out.
I just don't have the time or money to start on a 250 or 300 then go to a 600 or 1000. It's no where near the same but after doing motocross and woods racing I'm pretty sure my throttle, clutch, and brake control are good enough.
This by far the best video I’ve seen mostly because of your enthusiasm. So, I’m going to start off by saying that I am the guy you are saying not to be. First time rider with MSF training and I bought a Ducati 959. Who really wants to take it easy on a bike like that? But what you fail to mention is that these new bikes literally have modes that are actually “beginner friendly”. I found it was very difficult to pop a wheelie and lock brakes on “wet mode”. My graduation to a whole new riding experience was going up modes. Which required no money unlike upgrading to a new bike.
thank you for enlightening me. I was thinking about getting a 600 as my first bike with the argument of, "I'll just take it easy and grow into the bike". Now I'm looking into 300s, I feel like this decision will definitely keep me alive longer.
Hello, i said before in one of your japanese bike videos that i really thought that it was one of the best outube videos I have watched. Again I want to say that this video is great. Very organized with a touch of symphonic music to represent mischief. It sound as if you have talked this video many times, to practcie getting it right. Very smooth talker without missing a beat. Thanks for the great videos!!! Happily subscribed!!!
Thanks for the praise! Yes, a lot goes into scripting and recording these to get them right and even then im still learning lol
No prior riding experience, took the CMSP in California(msf) passed it, went to the DMV took my tests and passed and then bought a Yamaha r3 and never looked back.
Back in the day when I started riding the streets in the late seventies, a starter bike was anything you could afford! I went from a 2 stroke 125cc Honda, to a 1969 CB 750, next a Z900, then a GS1000E. Just because a bike is fast or powerful doesn't mean you have to be an ass. Ride like there's a tommorow, now everybody has to wheelie. We didn't even think about stunting, because we just wanted to ride. Back then, compared to now, bikes were cheap but respected. Now I watch videos, it's a beautiful day kids have beautiful bikes, and they throw them down the street trying to stunt........crazy!!
Nice video brother. I ride an Aprilia RSV4 RF so I was hooked from the beginning lol beast mode.
It's like the bike that the new CBRs SHOULD have looked like.
Audio is crystal clear dude! And the "matter" was good and humorous. XD
Quality video man the audio is absolutely perfect and keep making the good quality content. It comes as better advice to be able to show someone this video than them just take my word about starting to ride.
Thanks for the praise!
If anyone is interested this is how it’s done in the UK, (if your old enough, grades of licence limited by age) I did this last year to get my full bike licence...
1. Pass your CBT test
(basic training, allows you to ride upto 125cc)
2. Pass motorcycle theory test
(I think it was 75 questions, ranging from road signs, first aid, maintaining bike, to hazard awareness video clips)
Passing this basically unlocks the ability to even book licence tests and expires after 2 years I think
3. If you’ve got experience you book an instructor to get you ready for your full test, a day or two just polishing up. I had no experience so booked a weeks intensive course, 8 hour days with tests on the final afternoon.
4. Test day (full licence any power output)
Mod1. Low speed manoeuvres, emergency manoeuvres. If you fail, your day is over and you have to rebook for a later date.
Mod2. (only once test one passed)
On road test.
To get to step 4 it’s cost close to £1000 and if you fail either of the step 4 tests it’s about £150 to do it again inc a few hours of instruction beforehand.
Test availability varies between regions, mine was around 5-6 weeks before a free slot was available, unless you get on the system 6am Monday morning and snag a cancellation.
Needless to say it’s a relief once you pass as it starts to really drag on and gets very expensive.
My first bike is a Triumph Street Triple RS
Audio is fine. Your Brooklyn accent is classic.
I started at 16 years old with a used 250 cc single four-stroke Honda dirt bike. It was all I could afford, but it seemed like plenty of bike. The speed limit was still 55 on the interstate, and it did fine there. Sold it after several years for about the same I paid for it. Later I bought a 250 cc two-stroke Suzuki, which was noticeable faster. Then had a 650 cc Suzuki street bike when I was 22 years old, and drove it all over LA for years with no problems. My next bike is probably a Triumph Street Triple 765cc to be used in the hills along the California coast.
Great vid as always, people always try to start on ss bikes because of styling and the associated cool factor. But like you stated in the video ss bikes just are not good for learning the fundamental of riding because your to nervous of making an error instead of enjoying the ride. Also something that makes me mad is when someone tells a new rider to get a 600 because they have no bottom end. When in reality, a hand full of throttle will push them to the top end of the rev range before they can even react.
Well said.
I'm guilty of the "I'll grow into it" part. I was shopping around for bikes and ended up getting a new 600rr. Defintely far above my skill level. Haven't had any incidents yet, but i truly do respect the bike and it's power.
This video is great! I’m looking into getting an RC390 or a Ninja 400. I’ve ridden dirt bikes my whole life but still not ready to get into a 600. Keep up the dope vids
Growing up in the desert of SoCal, I was blessed to have a father that rode motorcycles. He bought me my first bike at age 9. My first four bikes were all dirt bikes. 90cc, 125cc, 250cc then 500cc. Best place to learn how to ride a bike is in the middle of the desert. Nothing to hit except pucker bushes and cactus. I didn't get my first street legal bike till I was 19. Now that I'm in my 60's I can safely say my Father started me off the right way. 27 bikes later, and only one wreck. My fault. We learn from our mistakes.
Good stuff man. Just bought my first own bike. Thought of a Buell XB12, but my brain started functioning somewhat again. I ended up with a Honda CBR1100 XX Blackbird. For my length to sit comfortably on a bike, I prefer something big. That thing though humbles me. Luckily it doesn't throw tantrums. I appreciate all kinds of bikes. The MT-07 i rode before was a great bike, the Honda CB500F as well (though a bit of a pig at low rpm's), and i adore the Suzuki GS450L my mom has. Bikes are a great thing, in all shapes and sizes. Cheers, be safe and ride on.
My first bike is the one that I have now. 2012 street triple. Been around bikes seriously since I was around 15. My cousins taught me how to ride, but learned through controls on a quad. It was a good starting point since you can focus on what's does what without having to worry about balance per say. Then I went on to dirt bikes and streets.
Had my license for years before I was in the black enough to by my own... so I went for brand new regardless of both my uncle and cousins thought. But I will admit, made a couple of mistakes, but nothing major, (hoping it stays that way) knock on wood. Overall very happy with my bike! September will make it five years... I may go for an upgrade, but for now I'm content!
Great channel BTW!!!
I have made my mistake by starting on kawasaki zx6r, lesson learned, now I'm a happy rider on a 2014 suzuki v strom 1000, love it more than my zx6r.
First bike I ever bought cbr600rr 08 but I grew up around a lot of people who had bikes. So I grew up knowing bikes before cars. Good video man I love watching these. Like you said you can start on a supersport but just be honest with yourself. Some people are born with skills some people need to seriously train and practice. We don't want noobies to fail and trust us buying a 3k small bike and wreaking it is better than a 6-12k bike that cost 1k to fix or is totaled and cost you 2-4k because you insurance goes up and you have to get another bike .
I started on a 650 v twin cruiser for the first year and a half, about 3000 miles, and moved up to a zx6r last week. I feel like it was a great way to learn with new sticky tires and a big heavy torquey yet kinda slow bike. Really learn how to handle the clutch and low speed turns and turning from a stop. After 2k miles I took the test for the license and actually got a perfect score without ever taking the MSF course. And now my brother is buying it from me to do the same thing. So far even with the ninja I haven't crashed thank god
Good content, great video. I will buy n higher than a 500 now thanks to you. I already signed up to the weekend safety classes and then the following week the advanced classes. Cost me 500 bucks but worth it
Man u make sum of the best videos man. The audio is clear n crisp
:D
I started with an r6 and your right about it hinders learning.. i was too focused on taking it easy growing into the bike that i forgot to actually learn on the bike.. to not deathgrip the throttle, foot position, body position, etc.. the bike is unforgiving the throttle is sensitive.. but i learned my lessons after going down in the canyons for chopping the throttle on a turn then panicking then target fixated to the dirt and so on..but i dont regret it. Its a learning experience and im doing pretty good so far
Incredible video. Analogies were so on point. This should be a part of the MSF dude.
I stopped riding for nearly 15 years and got back into it recently - rode most of my life without a license or permit but when I decided to get back in - I took the permit test and did the MSF even thougjh I had the experience and it was the best decision! I bought a beater suzuki katana so I could get into riding 600cc again but with a slower engine and throttle response and you know what? I tour with it because its so comfortable! Great vid!
luckily i was part of that 1% that got the self control lol. i have cbr600rr as my first bike, and i felt so intimidated by it. Snappy, Quick, Accidental blip of the throttle and itll send you foward. im 5'4 so i gotta tippy toe it which made me even more iffy about it. but through time it went from learning it on as weekend bike, to being my full time daily commuter. Once you get the hang of it, the feel, the patience to not wanna just yank the throttle and lanesplit intensly doijg about 15-20mph on the freeway, its like a 600 is all i need at the moment. Be safe when learning it, and have the self control, youll be fine! i dropped mine a few times at turns below 5mph for using the front brake and practicing Uturns. thosell getcha!
Don't tip toe your bike dude. Adjust the seat, adjust the suspension, do whatever to get your feet flat.
Why man? Why cant we tiptoe, can u please elaborate on ur advice?
Most insightful and educated advice vid for beginners. I applaud your effort. In the end, they will do whatever they want, but this vid will save few of them from disaster.
That's really the idea. It's more advice and giving people something to think about rather than forbidding something.
I'm from the UK, took my CBT and rode a 125cc for about 6 months. Took my theory, Mod1 Test and Mod2 Test and because of my age I have a full unrestricted licence. Got myself a 600 and have been riding that as a daily commuter for almost a year now. Not had anything super dicey and I have been in control the whole time so far. It's all because I completed all the training and got decent road experience on my 125cc. Very few people possess the self control to "take it easy" by jumping on a sportsbike off the bat. Plenty say they have the self control but hospitals and graveyards have plenty of them.
Let's put it this way.
If you are a natural driver and a rider, aka you sort of know what to do after jumping on a bike and wont fuck it up.
Then "you can grow in to your bike"
Get a feel of the bike, how heavy is the bike while turned off.
How's the suspension.
What's the throttle travel distance.
Then get familiar with the gears.
How hard of an yank do you need to go to first gear.
How much clutch do you have to "give" to not grind your gear.
If you're a Natural, I don't have to explain further :)
These videos are quite informative and entertaining, subbed
First video ive seen by you good stuff subbed love the edits
I'm so glad I started on a 250 and have my m license. Yes it got boring really quickly but it was worth it to gain the experience. Honestly the most drastic change was when I went from a 500 lb '96 yzf600r to a super light '06 cbr600rr. The amount of power with the huge decrease in weight made the two bikes completely different animals. Then adding a -1+7 tooth gearing to the mix made the cbr a monster lol. After a few years I'm finally ready for a liter bike. I rode my buddies '03 sv1000 and honestly my 600cc cbr was significantly lighter and more powerful. Even with the stock gearing.
Very wise video. I recommend starting off on a bike that feels faster than it is rather than a bike that's faster than it feels. As you grow as a rider leave something to grow into.
Thanks for making this excellent video, it was funny, informative & entertaining
Started on a Ninja 400, then a Ninja 636, now on a Yamaha R1. Each bike taught me something. The 400 was all about basic riding skills. The 636 taught me how to smash the streets. The R1 is a beast on another level. It cost me a little each time on trade-in but it's nice to experience all flavors of sport bikes.
Audio is a fair bit clearer. I agree with your points 100% speaking as a guy riding since he turned 6. My first road bike was a 510cc supermoto. That was ridiculous enough and my top speed was like 175.
Great video I totally agree with you 👍🏻 thanks for another great video
There is actually a video on UA-cam of a Mother used bike shopping with her son for his first bike. And the second bike they look at is a Monster Edition ZX14, but the bike costs more than the kid has and they leave. Well the mother goes back and pays the difference and surprises her son with it. And I think it was the worst act of parenting I have ever seen.
Awesome video by the way, as usual.
I started riding in 1989, I bought a 1982 Honda CM450a, with an automatic transmission. Loved that bike.
Bought my first litre bike this year after owning bigger and bigger bikes over the years. And I am glad I learned my skills before buying my rocket on wheels. Now I can rely on those skills.
I’m 39, just bought my first bike, Yamaha XSR900. MSF course next week. Experience with quads and mopeds in the past. I got a decent deal and didn’t want to work-my-way-up buying and selling smaller bikes plus this thing has traction control and rider modes so I’m taking the chance. Wish me luck!
New audio is tight, everything else is still fantastic as usual, keep it up man! I tell all my moto-friends that go on youtube to check out your stuff.
Also nice to see videos telling people to start small, I know my 900 woulda messed me up good if I didn't start on an old 80's 650.
I started on a yamaha TW 200 and my first time I thought it was fast as hell. getting up to 30 felt like light speed and I never full throttled out of fear of wheeling. now I'm on a DRZ-400 and I love it the power is good for the street, iffy on the freeway but it will power wheelie in first gear. now if i get back on the TW-200 I feel really slow and have to full throttle it just to get up to 30 and keep up with traffic.
That feeling of graduation is awesome.
I started last year with a Honda vfr750. Not that fast, but have to be careful. It has surprised me a few times, but I magically managed to keep it on the road, rolling.
I really wanted a VFR myself... Maybe at some point.
- The illestrator - Ride with me, and maybe I let you have mine... 😎
Keep up making those great vids. Love it!
I jumped on to a liter bike for my first (street) bike, but I rode lots of motocross, 250's, 450's so on and so fourth. I'm aware of power and how to respect it, plus how to handle a bike and the way to control one
Started on a 125cc 26bhp sport bike. Theres nothing wrong with it. There was no real comparison between any other motorbike style. And everything you said applies to every motorbike. The only difference is that on a sport bike like you said. Everything is more responsive, so if a dangerous situation presents itself. Having a more responsive machine will give you an advantage over another rider if you need to make a manouver quickly.
A personal experience of mine, i was heading to work commuting on my RS, and a lorry just doesnt look, pulls out. There was no time to stop. And the bikes capabilities let me get my knee down to swerve around them. Was very scary, but honestly. It doesnt matter what you ride. Ride what makes you happy.
The issue for many people between buying a 600 and a 300 is that if you buy a beginner 300 first, you're financially screwing yourself because once you buy it it'll start depreciating, and then when you go to sell you'll have spent more money on selling and buying a 600 than just first buying a 600. For some people that's not doable, and it's only affordable to buy the 600 and take care of it for a long time.
Great info! I also rode around on a 250 for about 2years. I’m ready for a 600 or r6
In Switzerland you can start at age 14 with a little 30cc moped. Like every 2 years if you don't have tickets or accidents.. You can move up. So at age 20 is the earliest possible time that you can ride a bike larger than like a 600cc. I think its a good system because these kids master each category of bike and gain 6 years of experience on the streets.
Some of these kids are very very good riders with these little bikes. I got some videos of them riding if you wanna have a look at our crazy Twisty roads.
Dude you NAILED IT. This video earned you a sub. My Gf's brother wants to ride, he thinks jumping on a new ZX10R or R6 is a wise idea....
Commentary alone gets a sub.😄👍🏽
Great video, and very good, valid points made here! I've got to agree with you. First thing I actually rode on the road, was an old Trail 90! Then first "real" bike was an '81 GS-450, then a new '13 SFV-650. My first sport bike was a brand new, albeit a demo bike, GSX-R750...totalled it in less than 3 months! 😔 So I can attest to the quicker throttle, higher HP, and lower margin of error...even for someone with 3yrs experience, at that time. If you're level-headed, a SV-650 or Ninja 650 are great starters, but still fast enough to remain fun, and fast enough to be dangerous!
Any idea when you'll be back on two?
Once the weather warms up a little bit more, and the roads aren't full of gravel! I still have my 2011 GSX-R750 intact, I was referring to my 2015 that I totaled (Guess I could've been more clear on that, lol). The end of this month will have been 2 years since that happened! Glad I've been able to keep the shiny side up, on this one, LMAO!
Great points man. I started on a cbr600rr 3 years ago after taking MSF. I “took it easy” & and still had fun. I’m still learning my bike & looking into a Harley street glide for me and my girl. I doubt I’ll ever lean too far though because these Indiana streets aren’t clean enough.
Mic sounds awesome and clear. Keep grinding man
For sure!
Really good video, and arguments. Thank you
I completely agree but my situation was different. I went to the dealer with no riding experience, bought a $10,000 new 1000cc bike and Basically learned in the parking lot for 30 mins. 2 years later here I am, no accidents and I just the msf class last week. I’m special 💡
Great video and a lot of truth, I live in Switzerland with really strict rules and started off with a 50cc 2 stroke sportbike. I agree that it's much better to start off small, I mean damn most people I know struggle with a 8hp bike already so it makes even less sense to start off on something like a 600, unless you're brave enough which, let's be honest, barely anyone is. I benefit a lot from riding my small bike because I learned more about things like countersteering, gripping the bike right and cornering (I even dragged knee on that tiny 130 rear tire a few times) and now I'd say I can easily move up to a bigger bike. I've ridden a friends CB500F a few times with ease and my next bike is going to be a Husqvarna Nuda 900r. Also the audio is perfect, very crisp and clear.
What was the 50cc called?
Aprilia RS50 (2009 model) but I did some slight mods like deleting the air box and putting bigger jets in the carb, thing sounds really nice actually :)
I got my first bike a k5 gsxr 1k.... srupid first bike 6k miles on it since june. Its doable but now that i know how to ride it i wish i woulda learned on something smaller to practice tighter riding mechanics... aka slow speed handling and such. Hard to learn a u turn on a liter bike lol. Great video happy trails everyone
I started out on the Aprilia RS125. Awesome bike to start on because it teaches you the basics of sports bike handling without the dangers of the superbikes. It was so fun screaming it everywhere too. I currently ride an RSV1000 and although it's a magnificent bike, as soon as I full throttle it, I have to back off because I'm already doing lethal speeds. Kind of takes the fun away when your ability will never level up to your bikes ability.