Best Cordless Airless Paint Sprayer? // Graco Tc Pro & Ultra Review
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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If you are in the market for a paint sprayer or are just looking for an easier way to get a great paint finish - look no further! In this video I review the Graco Tc Pro airless paint sprayer and compare to other similar sprayers in the Graco line up.
In general I am very impressed with the paint sprayer, especially when comparing to my original (corded) Truecoat 360 DS model. The fit and function of everything is better along with higher end components. I will say though, given the choice, I would recommend the Graco Ultra Cordless over the Graco Tc Pro Cordless. I've found that you can get the Ultra for the same price as the Tc Pro and you're actually getting a much more capable sprayer.
There are also some versions of the cordless paint sprayers which can spray flammable materials and they either have "Max" or "Plus" in the name. They are quite a bit more expensive so you better be sure you need that capability!
Here are the "tiers" of Graco paint sprayers I talk about in the video:
Tier 3 Sprayers
Ultra Cordless (Recommended) - amzn.to/3BT2B65
Ultra Max Cordless - amzn.to/2V384qn
Tc Pro Cordless - amzn.to/2V0X4d1
Tc Pro Plus Cordless - amzn.to/3l8iZtj
Tier 2 Sprayers
Truecoat 360 VSP (Recommended) - amzn.to/2WoA8EQ
Truecoat 360 DSP - amzn.to/3zQFYx5
Tier 1 Sprayers
Truecoat 360 DS (Recommended) - amzn.to/3BN6Pfz
Truecoat 360 - amzn.to/3ydgVnK
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Used this gun to paint exterior siding on my house, 1500 sq ft and painted exterior of two barns! I love it! And it’s never overheated, not once. It was 90 degrees when I painted last barn, went thru 3 gallons of paint. It’s been awesome! I don’t have the 42oz system still using 32oz so means filling up more but it’s lighter. And you can change the guard to the rac x and use fflp tips which are awesome and a cheaper way to use those tips versus buying the ultra
Just bought this unit to paint some shed siding and other small projects. So far I'm very impressed, makes easy work of t111 shed siding. It's a bit of a paint hog with overspray but the time savings in worth it. I am heavily invested in the Milwaukee m18 battery system and wasn't crazy about now adding a Dewalt cordless tool. I spend about $21 on Amazon and got a Milwaukee-to-Dewalt adapter to use on the paint sprayer and it works great. Sold both Dewalt batteries and the charger for $100.
That skill share sounds great. I have two of these. One Ultra and one TC Pro. I have put about 90 gal. Through the pumps before the clogging problems begin. They spray excellent and I am a pro painter. I refinish trim and paint small 50-70 sq. Ft ceilings with it. Now the clean out. I can do it in about 6-7 minutes.. basically take off cup leave the cup holder top on and tip up side down under a faucet. Switch between prime and spray several times. Easy to clean and 1/2 the time of my big G490’s. Recommended if you do 5-10 jobs per year.
Great sprayer! I have the Ultra and painted the entire interior of my 1600sqf home. I love the interchangeable tips as it helped me get the paint flow/fan size just right for the various paints I used. I know you were concerned about its ability to do big jobs and, while you will definitely get a forearm workout, I had no issues with overheating while running the sprayer continuously through multiple batteries. I also purchased extra 42oz cups and liners and kept other charged batteries handy so I wouldn’t have to stop and refill as often. Just don’t leave paint in the pump overnight. That cost me around $200 for a new pump… I hope this helps some people!
Wow impressive!
Try doing that multiple times. Lol. It won’t last, they are rated for how many gallons they can spray before issues. You might check that out. And oh the last thing you want when spraying is weight at the gun.
@@shaynesabala chill out negative Nancy
I'm gonna do my fence, hopefully it does ok
You always have good reviews. One of the reason I'm a subscriber.Thanks
As someone who does parking lot striping, we will typically switch through colors multiple times from white to red to blue and yellow but we may need little touch ups. Maybe a car ran over wet paint or a stencil got forgotten. Something like this would definetly come in handy
Excellent video very thorough. I appreciated you giving the model numbers and having the pictures to back up your comments and very knowledgeable of the product 5⭐ liked and subscribed!
I just did a whole room with this sprayer, 2 of the walls were taken up by a window/closets but I am so happy I decided to do it with this
I had tc pro just about 2 weeks for a remote job. It's surprising. It's easy to use. I actually use it to paint whole house trim, door, corners, cabinet, base boards( I have 5 batteries total). Now it's about 18 gallons. I am not a pro and I love it.
I bought a graco prox17 a year back. The airless sprayer cart with the gun on the hose. This is one thing I'll stick with cords and hoses. If I were to do it again I'd get a more powerful version, but this one already paid itself off on friends jobs. It's was about the same price as those handhelds
It’s a great sprayer, used it for repaint furniture to flip and omg the freedom you get having it cordless and the speed is incredible. Took 40 minutes to prime with paint roller and brush vs only taking less then 5 Minutes with this sprayer! Thankful I found this sprayer new in the box on offerup for $370
I painted a 175ft long x 17ft high mural with the corded version. I couldn’t afford a large sprayer at the time. But I only had to replace the pump once and that’s very easy. I’m going to purchase the cordless ultra or maybe ultramax version which i read has a brushless motor which is more efficient. Still have a lil more research to do but Just fyi you can do rather large projects with these if need be. You def will get an arm workout tho. These cordless versions are awesome for when you need to travel light but paint big!!! Highly recommended! These things are troopers!
Great review, always enjoy your videos.
I own a ultimate my self I painted the interior of a 6x5 shed a ceiling in an apartment, I have painted a whole house of baseboards, about 40 doors and a whole room lol it’s been very nice to me. It is a bit tedious to fill but it’s still a great sprayer
Thank you so much! I just bought (this evening)the model in this video … I think I’m gonna take your advice and return it back at Lowe’s and order the pro on Amazon
As a professional painter, I think you did an outstanding job with this review! I also agree that the Pro Ultra is the way to go. I’m actually considering purchasing one for smaller jobs, so that I don’t have to break out my larger airless. I can really see the benefit of having one. Good job, dude!👍
This is a great sprayer, do not lose any of the parts for this sprayer. I cannot find any parts for this.
perfect and honest
Great review. Also, love the cicada sounds in the background! LOL
Thank you for the review! I was about to purchase the TC Pro from HD but then saw your review and ended up purchasing the Ultra for the same price from Amazon.
I have the VSP and I used it to paint the entire exterior of my house. It never over heated. It also worked out well. I would run through the a 42 ounce cup, back roll, refill and do another section. I have a full airless rug but I found it perfectly effective to use the little sprayer. Maybe not what it is designed for but worked well for me.
I painted my whole exterior of my house also with the VSP. It worked out great no overheating or any problems at all.
Which one is this VSP you talked about please?
Wow, I was thinking this was like a $100- ish sprayer, lol. The TOPSHAK TS-SG3 cordless sprayer I got for $60 (now $90) during a flash sale is GREAT. I've painted cabinets, fences, furniture, etc., AND I painted my work van with it! And because I took my time to do all the prep over a few weekends, you would never know it wasn't the factory paint. I was looking at the Graco Tc Pro, but after using my cheapo sprayer and seeing this review I'm soooo glad I didn't spend $500 bucks on it!
Great video. Thank you for the honest review. I was on the fence between the 2. I already have the ProX19 and use the FFLP tips, so this was a concern. Because of your review I went with the Ultra.
Excellent review that answered all my questions. TY
Bought a Ultra last week based on your previous videos. I'm going to be building your shop cabinets soon and this looks like the way to go to paint them. Also I've bought a couple sets of your build plans now and they are amazing.
Years ago I looked at Graco's in big box and learned those models use the RAC V tips versus the better RAC X tips on the pro models sold in paint stores. For same money I went with the base pro model and never looked back. So good for large jobs but for small tasks a pain to set up and clean out (long hose means a lot of paint to flush.) So when they started offering the handhelds I jumped in and got the cheap cheap DIY corded model and it works fine so far, and not as hard to clean up IMO. But only two tips and 1500 PSI so started looking at these better versions but of course Graco playing the same game offering incompatible versions with proprietary tips in big box versus pro paint stores (and Amazon). So my current two speed consumer version was really cheap on a deal day or something - less than 140 bucks so when it wears out I will likely pony up for the Ultra plus as it can spray lacquer and volatiles. But wow over 800 clams plus if Dewalt ever obsoletes the current 20v battery form factor ( and i'm a Makita 18v guy, same fear tho) ...anyway all of these use the flex containers but like you point out the plus has a solvent compatible version to tolerate solvent coatings. You can buy extra flex containers and you can use a plug to seal unused paint in the flex containers (solvent or regular) and just clean the gun for overnight preservation- can't really do that with my pro model that only works with 5 gallon buckets and needs to be cleaned every night or face gumming up the pump, hose and gun. Oh and oil - gotta oil the big boy every time.
Great video! I have the cheaper handheld corded model and the X5 and love them both. I however didn't know the cheaper hand held model only had a useable 10 gallon life, but still love it for my DIY use.
Lotta help with my decision man great vid!
Thanks for the honest review...I've been doing a lot of research on sprayers. As of right now...for a handheld sprayer. I'm going to buy the Graco Ultra Max, but I'm not sure what cart sprayer I'm going to buy.. I paint about 5-7 houses per year. I would love to get some feedback on suggestions you might have....thanks Ed
Really good information. So, in the end, what is the recommendation on a paint sprayer to buy whether it be corded or cordless? Like you, I am just looking for small jobs, projects in my shop, small projects for outside the shop.
This is what a good review looks like. Logical breakdown of things and no hype. Great job!
EXCELLENT VIDEO...
I agree 100%
The right tool for the right job...
Great honest review that I think all of us like!
I have a TC Pro that I bought at the beginning of the year for small projects. I like that it is easy to clean up in the kitchen sink, I don't need to use a hose outside. But the tool is perfect for trim and doors (small projects as you mentioned). It throws some Behr premium latex which is some of the thickest paint I have ever seen (you can thin with floetrol but I did both and honestly it does not need it).
I’m a union painter in California thanks for the review I think it’s great because for my personal opinion I’ve got a little Graco 390 and yes I’d rather much use that than one of those handheld battery operated ones just due to the fact that it probably takes the same amount of time to clean plus I got a smaller line on it and I can run a quart of paint in my no problem but great info.
Just ordered mine. Got a couple jobs coming up where I need to paint some base but I don't want to lug around the big paint sprayer. Excited to see how it goes!
Great review! I have the Ultra for a while now and using it for painting cabinets and rooms (no a whole house at time). Your pros and cons are spot on. Two additional points: Storage I like how the compact it is not eating up garage/shop space. Also for the weight, I use two arms/hands ... one supporting paint reservoir and other on the handle. I find this helps in keeping paint sprayer in a better position and thus a more consist finish.
Nice weapon for Splatoon 3
Love the review! Thank you!!
I use to work for GRACO, as a Draftsman back in the 70's, in Northeast Minneapolis, MN.
Great review Travis. I just picked up the 360 DS based on my needs, budget and your previous review. Thanks for these!
Excellent review!
Great review and information...👍
Great video, this solves it for me. Gotta have one now!
Awesome! great input! thanks
This first job I did with one of these was a 200’ x 17’ wall mural (I’m a mural artist) and I used two of them, alternating. Worked out awesome. Cleaning it and changing colors does take forever, and I literally got a terrible case of tennis elbow at one point for using it too much. I still use them all the time though, and have Popeye forearms 😜🦾
Great video! What sprayer would you recommend staining a privacy fence?
Great vid, you come over very relaxed.
How do you think they'll hold up for long long term use... ie: how long the pump lasts for as they say 100gallon of liquid. Have you found it a problem?
As you say, you can swap out the pump, but it could come costly if you're doing it every year.
Years ago I used to have the old Graco Rotoflow centrifugal sprayer and painted a couple of my houses and fences with it. I found it way superior to any of the nozzle sprayers. Smooth, quiet, worked with any kind of paint, and easy to clean. I thought it was strange that Graco stopped making it.
Thank you very much. This review is very helpful.
Good review...pretty much nailed all the good and bad points. I have an ultra and it does come in handy for smaller jobs. Overall, I think if these were a couple hundred bucks cheaper they would be worth the money. You would be better off buying a lower end airless from a box store or just rent one.
One thing that wasn't touched on is if you have the unit that can spray flammable materials, you have to use a grounding cord or else you'll feel a shock while using it. That pretty much defeats the purpose of cordless convenience...you may as well buy the corded version.
Great and helpful video. Looking to paint inside of RV, not a massive job but not small, what do you think? I have X5 but was concerned about cleanup because RV is parked in friends back yard and don't want to make a mess with buckets of water.
Great Review! Was thinking of buying this to paint my room but I guess not anymore! Plus I love your Rogue shirt!! Have you done any home gym review videos? Which Rogue Power Rack did you get?
Hi Travis,
Another great review mate. There were things here I had never thought of and was just considering getting a gravity gun to go with my compressor, but this has changed my mind.
Also mate...you're quality of content in terms of production (and your deprecating humour) really show how much you've grown as a content creator. I think its time I leveled up my own game. Thanks mate. I'm inspired.
Homeright super finish max. You’re welcome
Did you thin the paint before painting your cabinets?
Did you get some kind of low vicosity paint or just the average paint from Lowes/Homedepot?
Thanks
One of the biggest benefits I've seen for these vs the larger units is the amount of paint that's needed to even use it. The larger airless go through paint really quick. It takes almost a half gallon just to prime up the system of my large airless. A gallon of paint won't get you very far and then there's still around a 1/3 of the can left when the pickup tube is pretty much useless. These are great if you have a small project and just have a quart of paint to do it.
Yes! I should have mentioned that
Do you have 1000 foot hose on it?
I have an x5 and when I want to do a small job I have to almost buy an extra gallon because of this. It also sucks to clean when it’s cold out.
If you keep the unit close to you and use a 5 foot hose, and/or chase with water when you're priming/cleaning it, there is hardly any wastage. Maybe a 1/2 cup at most
9:00 Thanks! This is great advice (about not using it outdoors). I wonder what do people do to paint a barn or fence? My barn has vertical grooves that are just impossible to fill with a hand brush. The fence is not a problem, except that it's just a ton of saying to yourself, "paint the fence, Daniel Sun" for hours.
Good review vid
I have the ultra and project plus. I've not had any problems with the ultra on shutting off or overheating. Having not to deal with priming a hose and later cleaning is an added benefit. Cleaning it is not a big deal for me. I use the regular cup so weight is not an issue either. It's my go to sprayer and actually makes it less of a chore to paint.
According to the Graco rep, the difference between the TC Pro & Ultra is the Ultra is shipped with the better FFLP tips and they are both the same sprayer. ?? Lowes & HD sell the TC Pro.
You can use the Graco RAC X tips (Green) like the FF LP for a much finer spray. You have to change the safety tip out for a RAC X (Blue) safety tip, Graco 246215. Note: that you cannot use a FF LP RAC X tips with the TC Pro (Gray) safety guard/tip.
Kudos to those who have had good luck with these. I will say I did not have luck with the tc pro or ultra pro. Paid $1,000 between both of them and ended up selling both and purchasing a Fuji q4 for the same price and couldn’t be happier. The gracos always were very finicky with the priming, , losing prime and I didn’t like the adjustability. A $50 fflp tip if you want to change how much or little you want to spray vs a spray gun that has those adjustments built in. Graco could do this with their guns but they would be losing money on tips. Just my .02
Great video , I’m looking to do a dozen interior doors with water base black paint from BM , any recommendations on pressure setting I should be spraying ? I’m leaning towards the ultra and feedback with be appreciated?
I have the 17N164 Ultimate (were you calling it the Ultra?). I agree with all of your “not so good “ comments. I’ll also add that I’ve had hit and miss results on spraying trim. Sometimes the paint lays out and other times I get orange peel. I don’t move the adjustments, so I’m baffled. I’ve sprayed interior doors with this gun. The reservoir will do one side plus a little bit more. I think there used to be a backpack reservoir for a gun like this, but it doesn’t seem to be on the market anymore. Anyway, you are correct; this is not a large project gun.
Great job on the video.
Great Vid!
Great video, thanks!😊
Great video. Thanks
Use mineral spirits to clean and you can leave it in there, does same as that armor stuff...
Awesome. I am buying one!
Thanks Travis for the great review. You do a fantastic job of editing and commentary. As for the sprayer, can you tell me how much are the replaceable pumps?
About $180 you can find the tc pro replacement pumps at home depot app or website
Good job. Does the cordless model 'pulse' (visible paint lines on substrate) the paint out same as the corded model does?
I've gotta agree that the Ultra is the better option. What I really like is how little paint you disturb (buy and put into gun). I really like that you can buy a cap, additional bags and carrier and store the unused paint for later (like the next coat or two) or (like the next days work) - less waste and I really don't want to put unused paint back into the original container or throw it out. With the Ultra using the pro tips, this is the best of all world for smaller jobs like one room trim on paint your home one room at a time, putting the room back, and moving to the next room.
“If something has wet paint on it, I’m going to touch it” 😂 had to pause the video to subscribe/comment, that is me 100%
Fuji mini mite 3 for the win, it’s only $120 more. I have been using it with Target Coatings pigmented lacquer and the results have been unreal for diy “prosumer”
I must buy one of these for spot painting on ropes.
Very good info video
Great review. I almost purchased the ultra to paint some trim thinking it would be faster and easier than my low end magnum airless. Instead I ended up just painting with my HVLP which isn't as light as my airless but it is far easier to clean. I think the most attractive feature of the graco pro/ultra is the fact that you don't need as much material because there aren't any lines. My magnum uses nearly a quart of paint just to get it to the gun.
I need to stain my log cabin, first time we hand brushed it all because it was the first staining. Which one of these would you recommend? Both corded and cordless. We used the Cabot's mahogany flame stain.
Fair review and a good one at that.
Question would a side handle do on this gizmo I know that sounds odd but it might do the trick. It would be nice option.
I bought an Ultra a year ago after using the corded version a few years. Having the ability to use different tips is a huge plus after you figure out which tip sizes work best for what application. I called Graco customer service and spoke to them about the TC Pro vs the Ultra. Even though they are all almost exactly the same, the TC Pro is the one you will find at big box stores. The Ultra is almost exclusively sold through contractor paint suppliers. Sherman Williams even has their own version called the Ultimate.
Would something like this work to spray Duratex? It seems to normally be used in HVLP sprayers, this looks like a direct stand in if I do not want to mess with an air compressor.
Thanks! Subscribed
Great Vid.
Could you tell which sprayer is better?
The Ultra 17M363 or
One of the Magnums
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262800 X5
262805 X7
In which of them can you spray a primer like Kilz?
Thanks
I got the corded vsp. Pretty good IMO.
Good video sounds great woodworking great show
Thank you for sharing
Thanks this helps
would recommend for daily use since i have a business making bedroom sets ? wich would only by used on black and white paints ,?
Man, I have the corded one, and I've shot three full rooms and repainted my entire house outside
and stained the whole fence too. I always rinse, then again with soapy water and flush with the blue rinse pump saver for storage. Even the cheap corded model is 100% better than any Wagner sprayer any day! If mine dies, I'll just get another corded one.
I have to ask but say first if I missed it , when do we see the finish of the shed or other videos till it is done??
Travis great review. I do have one thing to say about both the tc pro and ultra models. Graco has stated that both of these are in fact the same sprayer just different name and the same components. The only difference between the 2 is the spray tips that come with each are different. Other than that it's all the same.
You ca use the Graco green fflp tips and rac x tips on the tc pro too. I have both units.
@@Mowers11 yes. I can't wait to get mine. It's going to be a great spray system
Good to know! I didn’t realize that
Thank you so much!!
Graco can pound sand for the price for the ultra!! (I have to edit this. This price is for the Ultra Max.) 819.00 to 1100.00. Talk about price gouging!! That is way to much for like you said, this can't be used for big jobs.
Great video and very informative!
Thanks.
I'm editing again! I really want one! You can get the Utra for about the same price as the Pro. One place on the internet for the Ultra was actually cheaper than the Pro.
Titan 440 Highrider w/ RX-Pro 515 HEA for walls, 410 Fine finish for cabinets, 211 hea for trim, 517 HEA for oil based primers and 515 HEA for water based primers...antifreeze to store. That's quality, efficiency, reliability,...that's magic.
Thanks for your review. I don’t own any Dewalt Batteries and don’t plan on doing a bunch of painting. I’ve been thinking of buying a paint sprayer. I seen your last review on the corded version. I think the I’m going with Truecoat 360 VSP The corded version.
Great choice
@@ShopNation Question: is the Graco Truecoat 360 VSP considered an HVLP sprayer? I want to could I use it for Lacquer,Polyurethane or Varnish as well.
What do you recommend on the $250 range. I need a sprayer for door frames and skirtings and staircase spindles.?
What tip do you recommend to paint 6-1/2 baseboards?
How would u compare these to compressor spraying? After first coat I get similar finish to first coat or varnish where I need to sand, not sure why if the coat is not thick enough due to too much air as would of thought paint would seal the surface preventing wood grain lifting preventing usual sand after varnish coat? Would a undercoat spray stop this? What do u experience?
I just got my hands on a new Magnum x7 for $180. I've never used an airless sprayer and I didn't think about how much paint it would use. I'm going to have mostly small projects. Then I see this! I'm thinking maybe sell the x7 and put money toward one of these. Little torn about it though. I think this would be much less hassle than the x7. What say you? I own an escape room so mostly painting props and panels. Maybe have a need to paint a ceiling or room every once in a while but rarely an entire room.
That Skillshare commercial was great thanks for the video but I got a big ass room to paint so I'll get the corded model plus a I have Milwaukee tools and I'm fed up with battery chargers.
I want one for spraying windows or msybe the occasional couple doors. Doesn’t make since for doing any walls or ceilings because you could easily just cut and rolls those. Obviously for large amounts of wall and ceiling surfaces or lots of doors a regular airless sprayer is the only choice. I must say thou if your only painting a room and you want a nice finish on a couple doors or couple windows then this would be awesome
I have one of the cheaper models and found out the flaws pretty quickly after painting my first project and being limited to the one tip size. For $600 I’ll buy two handheld HVLP(one for water one for oil) which have a variety of tip options @ $100 ea and a bigger airless sprayer like the magnum for big projects which again has a variety of tip options.
Yes they have cords but like you said these small sprayers aren’t designed for big projects so you really shouldn’t have an issue with dragging the cord through wet paint bc you’ll only be painting a couple cabinets or a furniture piece. I really don’t get the philosophy of use of these cordless models especially at their price point.
I bought the DS after you recommended it and was disappointed in the purchase after I found out about tip limitations so I wanted to make sure and leave this comment and hopefully save someone else the heartache
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