A side note: the Washoe natives were living and thriving in those same mountains, that same winter. We don't have many records on their involvement in the story of the Donner Party (surprise, surprise), but their oral tradition includes the story of the starving strangers who were camped in a place unsuitable for the weather. The natives took pity on them and brought them rabbit and potatoes, which by some accounts went untouched. Another account tells that a few men attempted to bring them a deer, and were shot on sight. Not long after, they were observed by the natives to be eating each other, and were given a wide berth from there on out. TL\DR: The Donners were not alone in those mountains and if not for petty racism, they probably would not have turned to cannibalism at all. (Also, Abraham Lincoln--yes, THAT Abraham Lincoln--almost went with the Donner Party. The only reason he stayed back was because he had to care for a sick family member.)
@@loveloss85 In a nutshell, yes! Ricky Goldsworth is an alternate persona of Ryan (like how Markiplier has Darkiplier) that sometimes gets mentioned on BFU (and Ryan has occasionally acted as him during panels and such, it's actually fairly spooky!). Shane's alternate persona(s), in contrast, currently include C.C. Tinsley, Banjo Mclintock, Long Legs Madej, and himself as a demon, haha.
so the daughters who ate their dead father, that was one thing. dude died and was like "hey you're my kids, I don't want you to starve. this is the last thing I can do for you." but those freaks out in the mountains just started killing their friends left and right and were like "we had no other choice".
@@FIRING_BLIND Yeah, but a lot of people were dying from the cold, not hunger. Like, the guy who stripped his clothes off and ran into the wilderness? That's a hypothermia reaction.
Actually the only people that there are evidence of murder for were the two indigenous Americans, Salvador and Luis, who were already near death when they were killed, (which doesn’t discount the fact that racism definitely played a role). Shane doesn’t go into it the best in the video, which is understandable it’s very difficult to keep track of, but the timeline in the mountains was actually pretty complicated with pretty much everyone who died verifiably dying from causes other than murder. People were buried in the snow, which preserved the bodies. Eventually the people in the mountains sincerely ran out of food. Like they were eating the cowhide of their roofs. And people realized that they did have food out in the snow banks. At that point it was sit and watch your children slowly wither away from starvation, or give them what food is available.
@@engf223 dude that’s really interesting, plus there’s so many takes on how this all went down, like my APUSH teacher out right denied that any cannibalism happened. Apparently he has a credible source from historians but idk it seems like a load of bs 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@antichrist4449 LIKE DAMN- they were so willing to help until people started EATING EACH OTHER. and they decide to kill them and eat them 🙄🤞🏼 disrespectful asf
Yo, shoutout to these Miwok natives. 1) They stuck with them for quite a while and through a lot of their shit even though they owed nothing to them 2) They knew when to split aka the line is drawn at cannibalism
@@RamenNamen991 The various family and friend-group dynamics played a huge role in who went or stayed in each decision point. Reading the journals is fascinating (and sad). The Wikipedia page is quite extensive if you want answers to these questions without reading the journals themselves. The Professor did a great job here, but there's so many mode details to the tale that just didn't fit in this lecture, it's worth looking into... if you can stomach it.
The child eater said the last 4 died of natural causes, but I think he probably killed them given that the blood and other things were so meticulously prepared in buckets. Creepy.
R S. I think it's safe to say that George Donner at least died of natural causes, since he was badly injured and the injury was infected to the point where he was too weak to have traveled with the earlier rescue parties
For real though, shit must have looked nuts to the natives. I mean, imagine a bunch of total strangers moved into your backyard and then straight up started eating each other. I mean Jesus 😨
It is forbidden to eat people in many of the indigenous religions and well documented in the folk lore of that region. And technically Christians talk alot of cannibalism by accident. Literally that is one of the sensible reasons why Ancient Romans Outlawed Christians for a while, that people don't wanna admit. I mean Christianity is a mystery cult... we just all go to the rituals or at least understand the rituals are symbollic. Like imagine if a guy hands you this plank of wood. Tells you that Jesus will live forever if you eat of his flesh and drink his blood. And never saw a church ceremony. It wouldn't surprise you these white people were snacking on each other. Its literally in the bible.
@@altanida1097 literally what is the Eucharist¿ What's Transubstantiation? Normal religions don't constantly talk about eating some dude named Jesus? There are a few that talk about cannibalism metaphorically. The corn god and wendigo. If you don't know Transubstantiation is a metaphor, it would be confusing. In fact some Christians believe in the Transubstantiation is a real thing So literally these Christians believe and say they are drinking the blood if Christ and eating the body of Christ. Lots of accidental cannibalism.
He's a demon who made a deal with a genie to hold a consistent human form, unfortunately the nasty trick is that he's stuck in the human form and can't change back.
FUN FACT! The Donner Party was offered a lot of help from a few of the local native tribes! They not only offered supplies, but advised them not to attempt to cross the mountains. Of course, they turned them down, calling them "savages," but the kind native people didn't take no for an answer. They would send a few people to deliver food, blankets, and other commodities just outside their camp! Of course, the Donners still didn't accept help from the "savages". (I believe this was outside the camp at what is now Donner Lake). After attempting once again to assist the unfortunate invaders, the native people were shot at by the Donners, and so they decided to give up. And so, as the story goes, the Donners crossed the mountains and started eatin' each other. Now that's savage. (Someone can fact check me here, I think I got it right but my memory could be fuzzy)
I wonder if it was papa Donner that made the decisions, bc I figured bc of the girls letter to her cousin, that they would have preferred not to take the Cut Off at all, and maybe accept help. But the whole party did nooooooot have the perfect trip, so they just some glorified racist cannibals
@@ebunnyzappa yeah I wouldn't say glorified but it's true, Donner Man was probably calling the shots. But the others were in on it. (Also "Donner" autocorrected to "dinner" which is true also-)
If I remember correctly, the man james Reed stabbed was beating an animal and got violent with Mrs. Reed. James tried to stop him and ultimately resorted to stabbing him. So, not necessarily the bad guy
Reed was worried the teamster was going to murder his wife. There's nuance to that event Shane left out, mind you if he included *all* the specific details the video would be hours long.
@@katasoarusrex5357 yeah. from what i’ve read, the other guy accidentally hit reed’s wife with his whip, which angered reed, so he attacked the guy and stabbed him
This isn’t even the only story of white folks resorting to cannibalism as native people look at them like ‘dude wtf’. Look at the story of the sinking of the ‘Essex’, where the survivors of the shipwreck could’ve rowed to the Marquesas islands (the nearest by), but fear there were cannibals there. Instead two of the rowboats cannibalized half of their members before being found by a passing ship.
My great-great-great-great-great-great grandmother actually took the California trail and met up with one of the surviving female members of the Donner Party. In her journal, she wrote that "this woman had the saddest face I have ever seen."
Except he never said anything like that. It was Lavinah Murphy, Foster's mother-in-law, who accused Keseberg of murdering Foster's son, but Keseberg always denied it.
Christine C. That is an absolute fact. (I have mild autism and I had to drop out before Junior year. Couldn’t adapt. Plenty of idiots graduated with “exemplary” grades)
So my 10 year old’s teacher asked the class if anyone had heard of the Donner Party and my little one raised her hand and pretty much took over the class. Thanks to this video. I got a text from the teacher asking how/why she knew so much about such a grisly thing. So yeah...that was my week. How’re you guys doing?
About 35 years ago I lived in California and turned 21. My parents took me to Reno for my birthday. Naturally, we went through the Donner Pass to get to Reno. The Donner Party had already been part of CA history curriculum since I had been in elementary school. As we drove through, I noticed a McDonalds. I said, "Holy shit! If they had only gone an extra 1/2 mile!!!!" My parents have never let me live it down.
The thing is, you weren't entirely wrong. If they *had* gone that extra half-mile, or at least continued on from the lake like they'd been told that night, they would have been in a more advantageous position to keep moving forward. It would not have been easy, but so many more of them would've survived.
Another depressing fact about the Donner Party is that one of its members, William Hook, a 12-13 year old boy, actually died from overeating. When he was rescued, he could not stop eating and the rescuers gave him something to make him throw up so he wouldn't become ill from so much food all at once. However, during the night he snuck to where the rations had been hidden outside in the cold and ate until he died. My little brother is really into history and when he was a kid he really liked this graphic novel series called Nathan Hale's Hazardous Tales, which contains a book called the Donner Dinner Party, which is how we both knew a lot about the Donner Party when we were probably about 9 and 12, respectively
@@trinimq9151 it's missing a lot of key points, yet still talks about very minor points (I DONT NEED TO KNOW JAMES TEED WAS IN WAR WITH ABRAHAM LINCUON) and it paints all the survivors in a bad light for earring people, plus it kinda plays the terrible stuff off like "ha ha that's so quirky OwO" and not "people are eating each other and here's why :)"
FUN FACT: After Reed's banishment, his 13 year old daughter rode ahead to bring him a horse and some supplies and wanted to travel with him the rest of the way but he made her go back to the rest of her family.
@@y45m1n You're correct. The fight between Reed and the man he killed (Snyder) happened because Reed tried to break up a fight between Snyder and another man. Reed's wife got involved too and Snyder physically attacked her and Reed acted in defense. When he realized how bad Snyder's wound was he even tried to help him, but Snyder died anyway. There's a lot to criticize James Reed for but I'm not sure painting him as a cold-blooded murderer is QUITE it.
Ryan: "It ends very well for them" Professor: "Would you say it ends well for them or medium well" Both of them: Laughs manically at their own joke * insert any cliche villain evil laugh *
I'm sitting here as a Californian going... "Wait, do they not teach students in other states about the Donner Party? Why is everyone acting like they don't know how this ends?" I remember being 7 years old watching a dramatized video about the Donner party and being HORRIFIED, and then shortly after that getting stuck in a blizzard on a highway in the winter time with my family for about 5 hours.
Ideas for future episodes: -The life story of Adolph Sax -The life story of Rasputin -The life story of Lyudmila Pavlichenko -The Great Emu War -The Boston Molasses Flood -Literally anything to do with Bonnie and Clyde -Literally anything to do with Tarrare -The Six Wives of Henry the Eighth EDIT: I GUESSED THREE BABY! FIVE LEFT TO GO
Supposedly some local natives, who were out hunting, came across the donner party at the lake on 2 occasions. The first time they took pity on them and tried to give them a deer but the party shot at them when they tried to approach. The second time someone was seen sucking the marrow out of human bones and the natives just went NOPE and never checked on them again.
Yeah, nope is the correct fucking conclusion. Like...obviously, they had to tell the other adults "yo those fucking pink ppl who wear too many clothes are fucking eating each other tf?" But I'm wondering what they told the children of their tribes, bc they had to tell them something to make sure the kids stay TF away from them.
The guy who stripped off his clothes is called paradoxical undressing which is a weird reaction that people have during hypothermia where they're so cold that they suddenly feel hot and strip off their clothes in response and usually die
Joyce: In scary movies, there’s always that guy who says “hey don’t do that thing” and then they go do it FATHER THOMAS in the buzzfeed unsolved supernatural series: 🙃
@@thaumaTurtles Take the child across the river, then take the child murderer across the river, bring the child back, take the candy across the river, and then take the child across the river again.
So one day we were watching a video about the Oregon trail in class Our teacher said that some parts might be disturbing One kid was like “what did they do eat their children” And the teacher said “if you listen closely, not their own”
Shane sprinkling in the time travelling and genie hints about the professor's backstory has the same energy as him managing to create the hotdaga for the bun q&a's 😂
I don't know why but I started DYING when the Professor told us that THEY MF ATE ANTOINE. Like....bro he was only PASSED OUT and they were just like "FCK IT dig in guys." hahahaha. I'm not laughing at the cannibalism I'm laughing cause there's a point in EVERY one of these stories that's like "wtf" and....here we are lol.
@@internetexplorer6304 It gets worse (I only just found this out from Wikipedia). Apparently there's also a "Bureau of Indian Education" and "Indian Health Service".
One man was able to grab a smack before cannabilism in the donner party in the snow. It was a mouse I think he just grabbed it as it passed by, ate it alive, puked then died a few hours later.
@@calebduarte5255 I’m pretty sure you know what I meant... I’m not saying that things that -Shane- The Professor talks about aren’t creepy, just that it would be cool for them to do something together. Maybe Shane talks about the history and Ryan talks about potential ghosts, I don’t know.
@@emma-di5ly Yeah, I was just razzing ya a bit. You’re right tho, a big crossover between the series would be pretty fun. For now we might have to settle for the Professor’s Ryan impression in that one episode tho
I wouldn't say it's very surprising, as there are many accounts of this happening to people, apparently happened to many of the victims of the holocaust once they were freed and rescued too. Starvation will make the brain to spaz tf out :(
I went through starvation as a child and now a decade later i still have the compulsion to eat every thing when we do grocery shopping bc i have this fear that the food will be gone somehow and i will starve again so yeah. Starvation fucks You Up
This was actually the reason that many of the rescuing troops rationed food to concentration camp survivors at the end of the holocaust, which was tough but needed to be done so they didn't overeat to death.
For someone who only knew that The Donner Party was shorthand for cannibalism, this was a wild ride. I went into this assuming that the Donner Party was one family. Then I gasped when three families were listed. And then I about lost it when that number jumped to 87 people. What the actual hell.
There is actually a lot of historical evidence about the Donner party and their wagon train. For example, the group was at such a disagreement that they split off into 2 groups. One taking the normal rout and the other taking the "shortcut". One evidence found out about 10+ years ago is that the bones were more than likely animal bones. But because they where so chewed and nawed on it is hard to tell. Also of the Donner's it was majority women and children left alive. George Donner died from an injury of some sort (forgotten exactly what type of injury). As for the child eater I don't remember that part of the story. Only one in the Donner group (who wasn't even a Donner family member) was thought to be a cannibal, but part of that was because he hid the body of one of the older women (from what I remember it was George Donner's wife) and he would not tell anyone where he hid her body other than she was buried where no one would ever find her body and disturb her grave. So it made many people think he had eaten her body. The others that where thought to be cannibals where in the other camp site that the Donners where not in. Also majority of the cannibalistic stories where written by a reporter/journalist who had never been with the party or even talked to the survivors of the Donner family. Of the Donner family it was only George Donner's daughters that survived.
No one wanna talk about the fact that James Reed was BFF’s with the Lincoln’s and they almost joined them on this trip but Mary Todd said no because she was pregnant
Patrick Breen had seven children. Apparently, it wasn't hard for him to get wood after all. Also, Patrick, his wife, and all seven kids got through this. The Breen family came out of this ordeal completely intact.
well, it would have been hard to get wood and.. *wood* because he was both mentally and physically exhausted, he would've be able to swing an axe and his body wouldn't have it energy to pump his blood to his dick (can you tell i really like the donner party?)
The man who ran off into the woods likely already had hypothermia. Feeling overheated is a symptom of late stage hypothermia and many suffers strip their clothes off. Theres a lot of naked bodies on everest
@@astrocake584 So basically there's hypothermia which is the body's inability to deal with excessive cold and hyperthermia is the body's inability to deal with excessive heat. I was wondering if late stage hypothermia was akin to hyperthermia since they mentioned the overheating aspect of it.
Me, sees 500 miles: starts signing the proclaimers song Ryan and the Professor: 500 miles but to the tune of Vanessa Carltons Thousand Miles. Me: ... Ight.
I can never get past the fact that "Donner Party" is one vowel off from "Dinner Party". Also, I thought that Hastings HAD traveled the route but that he had done it alone on horseback and was not being honest (maybe even just to himself) about how much harder it'd be to take a wagon train through there.
Hastings traveled the route but only after he'd published a book about it, and he had an experienced survivalist and a horse. I believe he ended up offering to lead people through the pass but I don't know if he actually committed to it.
The Professor: **barely able to contain his excitement** Oooh some of them will be taking the _biggest_ naps soon Ryan: **grinning** An *everlasting* one Joyce: **facepalms** oh you boys... The Professor and Ryan: **evil maniacal laughter**
Added note: Keseberg denied everything and sued for slander people who accused him of the gruesome behavior at the lake. He won a whole $1 in damages but had to pay the court costs.
I can't imagine how much more grisly this would have been if Ryan was the one telling the tale. No hate to him, I love his way of explaining an incident but it's definitely more spooky kind while Shane's style is more cartoonish type
For clarification purposes, the man that took his clothes off and run into the wilderness was already dying of hypothermia. When a person has severe hypothermia they experience something called "paradoxical undressing". The body performs vasoconstriction to keep warm, but eventually it fails if the person remains in the same conditions, giving the person a false sense of intense heat, which makes them want to undress.
The Professor and Ryan both knowing EXACTLY how this story goes while Joyce knows nothing, Ryan and The Professor making VERY morbid jokes, a snowman with a stomach mouth is great!
One of the posters said the local natives actually tried to help these people - left food and blankets. The Donner party repeatedly refused and shot at them. The Native Americans gave up. Some people were meant to be frozen dinners.
I think you missed the most important detail; They weren't starving. They died from the cold, not starvation. They thought they died of starvation and that's why they ate each other but they where actually just not dressed for the cold and the insane amounts of snow. Like seriously at the lake there's a statue of the Donner party that's really tall because it's as high as the snow reached google it.
Heard about one member of the party falling asleep at night and woke up to a complete panic attack. Wondering where the fuck did every one go, everyone was gone, completely gone thinking they left with out him. Then he realised EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING WAS BURRIED COMPLETELY IN SNOW
The Professor saying “hoes” is unreasonably funny
underrated comment
it's even better if you have captions on.
alaskan bull worm when❔🥺
Harleigh F around 8:32 :)
omfg i was just about to comment this
My therapist: Genie Shane doesn’t exist
Genie Shane:
I'M SCARED I"M SCARED I"M SCARED I'M SCARED
Scrolling through comments at the beginning of the video like WHAT?
Thats shane?!
He actually kinda looks like Klaus from the umbrella academy
Briza Schuler that’s what i thought too 💀💀
A side note: the Washoe natives were living and thriving in those same mountains, that same winter. We don't have many records on their involvement in the story of the Donner Party (surprise, surprise), but their oral tradition includes the story of the starving strangers who were camped in a place unsuitable for the weather. The natives took pity on them and brought them rabbit and potatoes, which by some accounts went untouched. Another account tells that a few men attempted to bring them a deer, and were shot on sight. Not long after, they were observed by the natives to be eating each other, and were given a wide berth from there on out.
TL\DR: The Donners were not alone in those mountains and if not for petty racism, they probably would not have turned to cannibalism at all.
(Also, Abraham Lincoln--yes, THAT Abraham Lincoln--almost went with the Donner Party. The only reason he stayed back was because he had to care for a sick family member.)
Thats so funny! Lol they deserved it then. I dont pity them
Hey are you the TA? This online course has been a little confusing so I forgot your name.
mothaf***in racists lmao. just desserts. thanks for sharing this piece!
Piles and piles of stupid decisions, yikes 😬
The Moby Dick situation had similar actions and conciquences.
Sometimes I forget that the stories of the Oregon Trail are sometimes real and not a musical on acid
The best musical on acid!
History class didn’t teach me, so puppets and crackheads will have to do. 🤷🏻♀️
what musical?
lol i was looking for someone to mention tto
Every time he mentioned independence my brain went "you're in independence"
Me n my homies drunk on campus: “lets throw up in the bergara bin”
‘The Bergara Bin’ lol
THE BERGARA BIN
LMAO!!!
Bergarbage bin
"Dude, I'm so high right now I'm sewing ghosts. Wanna go chill by the *Bergara Bin?"*
The Professor refusing to give Ryan any jellybeans is the origin story of Ricky Goldsworth
Canon
Oh god
Headcanon accepted!
Can you explain the lore of that statement? Is Ricky Goldsworth like Ryan's alternate persona?
@@loveloss85 In a nutshell, yes! Ricky Goldsworth is an alternate persona of Ryan (like how Markiplier has Darkiplier) that sometimes gets mentioned on BFU (and Ryan has occasionally acted as him during panels and such, it's actually fairly spooky!). Shane's alternate persona(s), in contrast, currently include C.C. Tinsley, Banjo Mclintock, Long Legs Madej, and himself as a demon, haha.
so the daughters who ate their dead father, that was one thing. dude died and was like "hey you're my kids, I don't want you to starve. this is the last thing I can do for you." but those freaks out in the mountains just started killing their friends left and right and were like "we had no other choice".
That one made a lot more sense than the others.
They seriously thought the reason people has already died was due to starvation. So yeah, in their mind, they had no choice.
@@FIRING_BLIND Yeah, but a lot of people were dying from the cold, not hunger. Like, the guy who stripped his clothes off and ran into the wilderness? That's a hypothermia reaction.
Actually the only people that there are evidence of murder for were the two indigenous Americans, Salvador and Luis, who were already near death when they were killed, (which doesn’t discount the fact that racism definitely played a role). Shane doesn’t go into it the best in the video, which is understandable it’s very difficult to keep track of, but the timeline in the mountains was actually pretty complicated with pretty much everyone who died verifiably dying from causes other than murder. People were buried in the snow, which preserved the bodies. Eventually the people in the mountains sincerely ran out of food. Like they were eating the cowhide of their roofs. And people realized that they did have food out in the snow banks. At that point it was sit and watch your children slowly wither away from starvation, or give them what food is available.
@@engf223 dude that’s really interesting, plus there’s so many takes on how this all went down, like my APUSH teacher out right denied that any cannibalism happened. Apparently he has a credible source from historians but idk it seems like a load of bs 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Everyone in this story is morally grey exept for the friend who warned them and the native dudes who just were vibing UNTIL THE CANNIBALISM STARTED
exactly, the poor native dudes 😭
@@angel-hu3bp THEY WERE JUST BEING HELPFUL AND GOT EATEN LIKE DAMN
@@antichrist4449 LIKE DAMN- they were so willing to help until people started EATING EACH OTHER. and they decide to kill them and eat them 🙄🤞🏼 disrespectful asf
@@antichrist4449 also i love your username and pfp 👀
I am apart of the Miwok tribe. Good to know my vibes are good.
Yo, shoutout to these Miwok natives. 1) They stuck with them for quite a while and through a lot of their shit even though they owed nothing to them 2) They knew when to split aka the line is drawn at cannibalism
But they ended up finding and eating them anyway 😔
Yeah. I wonder what natives even got for helping travelers back then.
probs believed the wendigo legend then said peace out
Wendigo’s pretty spot on in this case lol
@@notmbr Considering the people who turned to cannibalism also ended up as horrible murderers, the legends were pretty much true.
“I’m disgusted, I’m flabbergasted, and I laughed a lot.” - my journal entry for summing up 2020
I'm surprised you even laughed in 2020
@@Fae_van You can either cry at the 2020 shitshow or laugh
girl same
Yep pretty much.
@@kimberlymarkevitch4468 Or you do both, at the same time. Repeatedly.
"So the remaining 5 included the child eater, a child-" I SEE A PROBLEM HERE
FOR TWO REASONS:
1)who the hell doesnt prioritize the children for rescue????
2) FUCKIN FEMUR MUNCHER OVER THERE
@@RamenNamen991 The various family and friend-group dynamics played a huge role in who went or stayed in each decision point. Reading the journals is fascinating (and sad). The Wikipedia page is quite extensive if you want answers to these questions without reading the journals themselves.
The Professor did a great job here, but there's so many mode details to the tale that just didn't fit in this lecture, it's worth looking into... if you can stomach it.
Joseph Davies I would be interested to know but not sure if I can stomach it...what determined who was prioritized?
The child eater said the last 4 died of natural causes, but I think he probably killed them given that the blood and other things were so meticulously prepared in buckets. Creepy.
R S. I think it's safe to say that George Donner at least died of natural causes, since he was badly injured and the injury was infected to the point where he was too weak to have traveled with the earlier rescue parties
For real though, shit must have looked nuts to the natives. I mean, imagine a bunch of total strangers moved into your backyard and then straight up started eating each other. I mean Jesus 😨
It is forbidden to eat people in many of the indigenous religions and well documented in the folk lore of that region. And technically Christians talk alot of cannibalism by accident. Literally that is one of the sensible reasons why Ancient Romans Outlawed Christians for a while, that people don't wanna admit. I mean Christianity is a mystery cult... we just all go to the rituals or at least understand the rituals are symbollic.
Like imagine if a guy hands you this plank of wood. Tells you that Jesus will live forever if you eat of his flesh and drink his blood. And never saw a church ceremony. It wouldn't surprise you these white people were snacking on each other. Its literally in the bible.
@@elizabethlee2136 Midnight Mass is all about that
@@altanida1097 literally what is the Eucharist¿ What's Transubstantiation? Normal religions don't constantly talk about eating some dude named Jesus?
There are a few that talk about cannibalism metaphorically. The corn god and wendigo. If you don't know Transubstantiation is a metaphor, it would be confusing. In fact some Christians believe in the Transubstantiation is a real thing
So literally these Christians believe and say they are drinking the blood if Christ and eating the body of Christ. Lots of accidental cannibalism.
It's extra ironic considering the settlers accused natives of being barbarians...
*The Natives, after the Savages called them savages and heard/saw the savage act the Savages committed:* 👀
I cannot overstate how unprepared I was to see Shane Madej dressed up as a genie
LMAO THAT WAS HIM?? I didn’t even notice 💀💀
@@hazell5511 WHAT DO YOU MEAN?? WHO DID YOU THINK IT WAS??
He looks good in it ngl
@@padoru2705true
The man is totally workin it
Broke: Shane is a human
Woke: Shane is a demon
Bespoke: Shane is a GENIE
Wheel Spoke: He is both
Shane isn't afraid of the supernatural because he knows he's a demon that no one's gonna mess with xD
well the Professor did say he may have made a deal with a demon instead
so Shane could actually be a demon
@@justdecaffeinated or demonized that a actual thing xd look it up
He's a demon who made a deal with a genie to hold a consistent human form, unfortunately the nasty trick is that he's stuck in the human form and can't change back.
FUN FACT! The Donner Party was offered a lot of help from a few of the local native tribes! They not only offered supplies, but advised them not to attempt to cross the mountains. Of course, they turned them down, calling them "savages," but the kind native people didn't take no for an answer. They would send a few people to deliver food, blankets, and other commodities just outside their camp! Of course, the Donners still didn't accept help from the "savages". (I believe this was outside the camp at what is now Donner Lake). After attempting once again to assist the unfortunate invaders, the native people were shot at by the Donners, and so they decided to give up. And so, as the story goes, the Donners crossed the mountains and started eatin' each other. Now that's savage.
(Someone can fact check me here, I think I got it right but my memory could be fuzzy)
ewww they deserved it then
That is just determined to get to that horror movie ending.
oh look, it's the consequences of their own actions
I wonder if it was papa Donner that made the decisions, bc I figured bc of the girls letter to her cousin, that they would have preferred not to take the Cut Off at all, and maybe accept help. But the whole party did nooooooot have the perfect trip, so they just some glorified racist cannibals
@@ebunnyzappa yeah I wouldn't say glorified but it's true, Donner Man was probably calling the shots. But the others were in on it. (Also "Donner" autocorrected to "dinner" which is true also-)
If I remember correctly, the man james Reed stabbed was beating an animal and got violent with Mrs. Reed. James tried to stop him and ultimately resorted to stabbing him. So, not necessarily the bad guy
Reed was worried the teamster was going to murder his wife. There's nuance to that event Shane left out, mind you if he included *all* the specific details the video would be hours long.
I heard it was because the teamsters reigns got tangled with someone else’s and he whipped the oxen that was tangled
@@katasoarusrex5357 yeah. from what i’ve read, the other guy accidentally hit reed’s wife with his whip, which angered reed, so he attacked the guy and stabbed him
I've heard that as well
Certainly not the worst guy in this story by far
the fact that the natives that are labelled as savages went "hell no" when these folks started eating each of other says a lot.
fr
This isn’t even the only story of white folks resorting to cannibalism as native people look at them like ‘dude wtf’.
Look at the story of the sinking of the ‘Essex’, where the survivors of the shipwreck could’ve rowed to the Marquesas islands (the nearest by), but fear there were cannibals there. Instead two of the rowboats cannibalized half of their members before being found by a passing ship.
@@PineappleLiar Shane actually covered that on ruining history! It’s like the predecessor to this kinda
@@PineappleLiar they we're afraid of possible cannibals in an island but its so ironic how they themselves turned into one
@@PineappleLiar that’s actually the story that moby dick is based on, also they contributed greatly to the death of the Galapagos tortoises.
anyone other than ryan: *breathes*
the professor: here's a jellybean
accurate
Ryan: breathes
The professor: HERES ROTTEN JELLYBEAN
My great-great-great-great-great-great grandmother actually took the California trail and met up with one of the surviving female members of the Donner Party. In her journal, she wrote that "this woman had the saddest face I have ever seen."
That’s so sad 😔
That is p sad, man. :c
I wonder why.
Good lord that’s terrible
Guess they should have listen to the man huh
I hope Joyce and the professor get to go on their vacation some day
Dude it Joyce just went on vacation with a puppet - slay.
They went to Reno together
everybody said shane was a demon, nobody expected shane was a genie
What if he's both?
Could be that the professor THINKS he made a deal with a 'genie', but it was really demon Shane tricking him.
what's a genie if not the party version of a demon
@@bobbixvv exactly
a djinn is sort of a demon
“he died naturally of being murdered by me”😭
*N a t u r a l l y*
Naturally by murder, what i was hungry?
Except he never said anything like that. It was Lavinah Murphy, Foster's mother-in-law, who accused Keseberg of murdering Foster's son, but Keseberg always denied it.
And eaten, he was given a proper burial inside his tummy
"I killed him, so naturally he died"
“He did he died naturally of being murdered by me!”
LMAO
as someone who goes to Ryan's old college I would appreciate being able to chuck my Bruxie's in the Bergara Bin
Get a little metal plaque made that says “Bergara’s bin” or “Beef boys bin” at a trophy shop and glue it to a bin on campus.
My therapist: don’t worry Ryan will win this sea-
This episode:
Your therapist shouldn’t be telling lies to papa
Also the Washington Generals will beat the Harlem Globetrotters.
Whenever the Prof isn’t talking and just kinda standing there,, he looks pissed as hell and idk but I feel that
His thousand yard stare is a mood
Ryan's said this before, that the professor either looks completely indifferent or very pissed off
It’s because he’s been trapped in time by a sneaky genie.
RPF. Resting Puppet Face.
"I don't do math, Im cute"
I aspire to have this level of confidence one day
I actually can do math, but I've just realized I can just use this line instead and coast through life. Joyce got it figured tf out.
@SydMint honestly tho. I love school, just want to be as confident as Joyce
Life motto
Christine C. That is an absolute fact. (I have mild autism and I had to drop out before Junior year. Couldn’t adapt. Plenty of idiots graduated with “exemplary” grades)
SydMint all the kardashians went to at least high school, and Kim is studying for the bar exam 🤷🏾♀️
So my 10 year old’s teacher asked the class if anyone had heard of the Donner Party and my little one raised her hand and pretty much took over the class. Thanks to this video. I got a text from the teacher asking how/why she knew so much about such a grisly thing. So yeah...that was my week. How’re you guys doing?
I'm doing good. Thanks!
Well why did the teacher even mention the donner party in the first place?
Aren't 10 year olds a bit too young to know about the Donner party?
@@BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr they were learning about the Oregon trail and westward expansion.
@@myeeeeeh not in our circle of friends and family.
In Reed's defense the guy he stabbed was beating Reed's wife with a whip
Really???
Reed: Only I can beat my wife!
I believe he was mercilessly beating cattle.
@@lexigrimhaive she supposedly tried to stop him from doing that and then he beat her next
I think he was beating a cow. Unless of course he was talking about his wife.
Shane: singing about gore and death
Joyce: *vibing but visible concerned *
😂😂
Very catchy, very disturbing
Who tf is shane? I only see the professor
those girls eating their dad is so depressing. just doing what they had to do to survive, but so traumatizing. AND someone you loved so dearly. crazy.
The Professor giving jelly beans to anyone but Ryan is like Professor Dumbledore giving points to Gryffindor, and ignoring Slytherin altogether
Omg soo true
I love this comment so freaking much-
underrated comment
Ryan did get a pun point though xD
100 POINTS TO GRYFFINDOR FOR *BREATHING*
About 35 years ago I lived in California and turned 21. My parents took me to Reno for my birthday. Naturally, we went through the Donner Pass to get to Reno. The Donner Party had already been part of CA history curriculum since I had been in elementary school. As we drove through, I noticed a McDonalds. I said, "Holy shit! If they had only gone an extra 1/2 mile!!!!" My parents have never let me live it down.
Ahahahah
HA
🤣🤣
The thing is, you weren't entirely wrong. If they *had* gone that extra half-mile, or at least continued on from the lake like they'd been told that night, they would have been in a more advantageous position to keep moving forward. It would not have been easy, but so many more of them would've survived.
@@Ennead13x The truth is, I grew up to love history, but I'm also a smart-ass. It's kinda like Shane and Ryan's future. LOL
"I don't do math, I'm cute" Me emailing my professor
Another depressing fact about the Donner Party is that one of its members, William Hook, a 12-13 year old boy, actually died from overeating. When he was rescued, he could not stop eating and the rescuers gave him something to make him throw up so he wouldn't become ill from so much food all at once. However, during the night he snuck to where the rations had been hidden outside in the cold and ate until he died.
My little brother is really into history and when he was a kid he really liked this graphic novel series called Nathan Hale's Hazardous Tales, which contains a book called the Donner Dinner Party, which is how we both knew a lot about the Donner Party when we were probably about 9 and 12, respectively
Yup. That’s called Refeeding Syndrome and it cropped up a LOT during WWII.
Nathan Hale actually visited my school. Very chill guy
NATHAN HALE MAKES GOOD BOOKS BUT HIS DONNER OARTY ONE IS VERY BAD >:(
IT ANNOYS ME BECAUSE I LIKE HIS OTEHR BOOKS >:(
@@unknownpasta8103 Wait, why do you not like his Donner Party one? I read it a very long time ago but I thought it was mostly accurate?
@@trinimq9151 it's missing a lot of key points, yet still talks about very minor points (I DONT NEED TO KNOW JAMES TEED WAS IN WAR WITH ABRAHAM LINCUON) and it paints all the
survivors in a bad light for earring people, plus it kinda plays the terrible stuff off like "ha ha that's so quirky OwO" and not "people are eating each other and here's why :)"
I misread this as the “The Grisly Journey of the Dinner Party,” then realized I actually wasn’t that far off...
Bro, I thought it said the GIRLSY Journey of the Donner Party and thought it'd be kinda cute but NO
This should not have been as funny as I found it 💀
yeah there's a book about the donner party and the title is literally "donner dinner party"💀
its really good read tho 10/10 recommend
Bro i thought it said “the grilsy journey of the donor party”
I mean ”döner” (same pronunciation as donner) does mean kebab in German.
FUN FACT: After Reed's banishment, his 13 year old daughter rode ahead to bring him a horse and some supplies and wanted to travel with him the rest of the way but he made her go back to the rest of her family.
Man that reed a-hole I'll tell ya what
@@y45m1n You're correct. The fight between Reed and the man he killed (Snyder) happened because Reed tried to break up a fight between Snyder and another man. Reed's wife got involved too and Snyder physically attacked her and Reed acted in defense. When he realized how bad Snyder's wound was he even tried to help him, but Snyder died anyway. There's a lot to criticize James Reed for but I'm not sure painting him as a cold-blooded murderer is QUITE it.
@Eryn C. Good point. But at least after this story we can all agree that Reed isn’t the worst guy lol.
@@y45m1n lol you're right, I just have a lot of inexplicable Donner Party knowledge so it was interesting to see their take on it
@@TotallyWicked10 Oh wow. Not nearly as bad as this episode made him out to be! I feel a little bad for being angry at him before haha
Ryan: "It ends very well for them"
Professor: "Would you say it ends well for them or medium well"
Both of them: Laughs manically at their own joke * insert any cliche villain evil laugh *
Ill insert the joker laugh from mask of the phantasm
I'm sitting here as a Californian going... "Wait, do they not teach students in other states about the Donner Party? Why is everyone acting like they don't know how this ends?" I remember being 7 years old watching a dramatized video about the Donner party and being HORRIFIED, and then shortly after that getting stuck in a blizzard on a highway in the winter time with my family for about 5 hours.
I live in western New York, and I learned about the Donner party in seventh grade.
I’m from Utah and for some reason we learned about in both 7th and 8th grade
I’m from Virginia and I learned about this in elementary, I really didn’t know that people just live their lives unburdened by this story LOL
YEAH i'm from NJ and personally i had only heard the name, not the details of the story 😅
EXACTLY! I’m from Truckee; they jammed this shit down our throats over & over again 😮💨
i love the dynamic of the group w joyce splendid
She’s so fun and entertaining and dramatic and I loved her
she’s such a sweetheart i loved her
i love her monotoned jokes and dramatic flare!
Ideas for future episodes:
-The life story of Adolph Sax
-The life story of Rasputin
-The life story of Lyudmila Pavlichenko
-The Great Emu War
-The Boston Molasses Flood
-Literally anything to do with Bonnie and Clyde
-Literally anything to do with Tarrare
-The Six Wives of Henry the Eighth
EDIT: I GUESSED THREE BABY! FIVE LEFT TO GO
TARRERE YES
YES!!
I would love a Rasputin episode. Also, I would like episodes on Harry Houdini and Harriet Tubman.
If you wanna hear a lot of strange but interesting historical figures, ghosts, UFOs, murders, etc. I definitely recommend The Last Podcast on The Left
How about episodes about multiple attempts to find El Dorado, or about the South Sea Bubble.
I reeeaaally hope they talk about “The Great Emu War” at some point
Edit: YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS
I've been pushing for that too. If they can't do a whole half hour, at least have some Puppet History shorts.
Just me being curious but what is that about?
YES PLEASE
I'm not sure what that is but it definitely sounds like a shane thing
Medha Sakre a war australians fought against birds and lost
"I don't do math, I'm cute" is the funniest and most accurate thing to say. I love her lmao
@@sou1creeper211 You're projecting hard, my friend ;)
@@gruslen To what
She's fuckin great, makes the whole day smiley
@@tobypossum7386 disagree but ok
@@sou1creeper211 what is your problem with her??? She hasn't done anything
Supposedly some local natives, who were out hunting, came across the donner party at the lake on 2 occasions. The first time they took pity on them and tried to give them a deer but the party shot at them when they tried to approach. The second time someone was seen sucking the marrow out of human bones and the natives just went NOPE and never checked on them again.
Yeah, nope is the correct fucking conclusion. Like...obviously, they had to tell the other adults "yo those fucking pink ppl who wear too many clothes are fucking eating each other tf?" But I'm wondering what they told the children of their tribes, bc they had to tell them something to make sure the kids stay TF away from them.
Yongguk Is Ultimate Daddy oof that’s some racism
Honestly, I would have done that. If I came across some cannibals. I'll GTFO real quick.
i don’t blame them. wendigos are terrifying
Mothy h washoe people don’t believe in wendigos
Why is none of us here talking about the scene, where Shane's revealing himself as a genie?
we're all still recovering
I screamed at that
Where??
That eyeliner was poppin
Haley Gray 18:40
"couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel"
My life is changed for ever lmao
I heard this used once forever ago, and it became my favorite insult as soon as I heard it
That's a good olde timey burn. My dad used to say that about one of his colleagues lol
Thats how I feel about it now hahaha
My parents use this all the time to say people have no common sense haha. Where do y'all live? I'm in the south
It’s an old post on tumblr lmao we know Shane was woke
The guy who stripped off his clothes is called paradoxical undressing which is a weird reaction that people have during hypothermia where they're so cold that they suddenly feel hot and strip off their clothes in response and usually die
Joyce: In scary movies, there’s always that guy who says “hey don’t do that thing” and then they go do it
FATHER THOMAS in the buzzfeed unsolved supernatural series: 🙃
wow not even gonna call him Father Thomas 😩
fun fact my friend knows that priest irl
Nora Catherine fixed 👌🏽
That is so true 😌👍
I'm literally ROFL
They left the child with the CHILD EATER in the last party??? WTF
I'm just as confused like bruh he was 4
He didn’t think that the guy who killed his son would do the same to another kid???
Plus how much room does a 4 yr old take up?! They could of made room to take him back.
@@thaumaTurtles Take the child across the river, then take the child murderer across the river, bring the child back, take the candy across the river, and then take the child across the river again.
I mean.. they were all eating people, I can’t imagine they were thinking straight
My therapist: Genie Shane is not real, he cant hurt you
Genie Shane:
h e i s h e r e t o h u r t y o u
So one day we were watching a video about the Oregon trail in class
Our teacher said that some parts might be disturbing
One kid was like “what did they do eat their children”
And the teacher said “if you listen closely, not their own”
That’s a good teacher
Yes, they label their dead and the parts of them that remained so parents wouldn't accidentally eat their own children.
I’m sorry, is this implying that SHANE is the genie?!?
That would kinda make sense tho, huh?
Everyone said Demon!Shane, no one expected Genie!Shane
Alexa Baal what about demon acting as a genie!shane?
majikhu The Professor mentioned that he was beginning to wonder if he made a deal with the actual devil instead of a genie...
Demon!Shane disguised as genie!Shane
Shane sprinkling in the time travelling and genie hints about the professor's backstory has the same energy as him managing to create the hotdaga for the bun q&a's 😂
Still mad we never got a conclusion to the Hotdaga
@@MaurauderGirl same, a true tragedy
I don't know why but I started DYING when the Professor told us that THEY MF ATE ANTOINE. Like....bro he was only PASSED OUT and they were just like "FCK IT dig in guys." hahahaha. I'm not laughing at the cannibalism I'm laughing cause there's a point in EVERY one of these stories that's like "wtf" and....here we are lol.
Aintone was also dyin
@@beesbrownies at least kill em first lol
@@ribottostudio right like imagine you fucking wake up and mfs is eating your leg like ????
@@clivebby4877 that's some The Walking Dead shit
but also imagine our guy Antoine who was so tired that his hands fell in a mf FIRE, not once but TWICE, and he did not wake up
That "Couldn't pour water from his boot if the instructions were written on the heel" is SUCH an insult I die every time I rewatch this episode 😂😂
I really wanted the wife to survive so she could start her girl's school
yeah same it seems like a happy end to a tragedy but the creepy child eater suvived :/
well she got eaten
First thing she would have taught those kids: “never trust men” thus the birth of feminism was born
@@n8phet139 lol
me too its a shame she didn't survive
I love how Ryan is dressed all business casual, and then there's Joyce who literally just stayed in bed in her PJs
Joyce looks amazing even in her pajamas
Ryan is wearing a hat and a shirt. Hardly dressed up
that's just how college be
i mean, she does say "i can sleep anywhere, for any reason" lmfao
@@tylerhernandez521 you get it
Have a jellybean bro
they should get shane on the next series. he's really missing out
I know, this seems right up his alley 🤷🏻
Yeah he'd have heaps of fun with this. Ryan would be SO MAD when Shane wins
He seems like another dynamic that would take this to the next level
Yeah i know, he would be amazing on this and would anger ryan so much more than anyone else when he wins!
Ikr. It would be so funnyto see ryans face if shane beat him
the fact that the professor said “Indigenous Americans” really made me smile
Is the term Native American alright too?
@@florencekrome6045 anything other than "indians" is an alright term 😭
@@angel-hu3bp as an actual Indian it sucks when people use the term Indian American like!!! Then what am I!!! Lol
@@internetexplorer6304 The Federal Government *still* has a "Bureau of Indian Affairs" that deals with the Indigenous Peoples of the US.
@@internetexplorer6304 It gets worse (I only just found this out from Wikipedia). Apparently there's also a "Bureau of Indian Education" and "Indian Health Service".
“grab a snack” dO NOT GRAB A SNACK YOU WILL REGRET IT
Thx for the warning.
One man was able to grab a smack before cannabilism in the donner party in the snow. It was a mouse I think he just grabbed it as it passed by, ate it alive, puked then died a few hours later.
@@Snozzberry_Slush then the forlorn party ate his ass
I like the difference between Shane's and Ryan's story telling, Shane's is like a cartoony bubbly kid show about history, Ryan's is a spooky drama
They should make a series where they combine them. The history of some creepy thing.
@@emma-di5ly as opposed to the donner party incident, a historical event widely seen as cheery and lighthearted in nature
@@calebduarte5255 I’m pretty sure you know what I meant...
I’m not saying that things that -Shane- The Professor talks about aren’t creepy, just that it would be cool for them to do something together. Maybe Shane talks about the history and Ryan talks about potential ghosts, I don’t know.
@@emma-di5ly Yeah, I was just razzing ya a bit. You’re right tho, a big crossover between the series would be pretty fun. For now we might have to settle for the Professor’s Ryan impression in that one episode tho
@@calebduarte5255 That was incredible
Fun, not so fun fact-
Surprisingly, one person died of overeating after he was rescued and was so hungry he ate and ate until he died from it
I wouldn't say it's very surprising, as there are many accounts of this happening to people, apparently happened to many of the victims of the holocaust once they were freed and rescued too. Starvation will make the brain to spaz tf out :(
Yeah, his name was William Hook and the poor bugger was 12 years old 😢
I went through starvation as a child and now a decade later i still have the compulsion to eat every thing when we do grocery shopping bc i have this fear that the food will be gone somehow and i will starve again so yeah. Starvation fucks You Up
This was actually the reason that many of the rescuing troops rationed food to concentration camp survivors at the end of the holocaust, which was tough but needed to be done so they didn't overeat to death.
@@liveandletslay3180 the dinner party's rescuers did the same, but this kid was desperate and broke into the food supply :(
17:41 "You do eat a lot of taco bell"
"Not a lot-"
"Yes. A lot."
I saw this as soon as that part came up-
Me when my friends want me to eat something else for a day
Professor: "We're joining the Donner Party"
Me, Ryan, and Joyce: Oh, nooo.
One of my best friends is a direct descendant of the Donner party. She's vegan.
😬
I would be too...
Well... consensual cannibalism is technically the only vegan way to eat meat. Lol.
Oof
def making that up
“Just kidding!! HE WAS BONES!”
was unreasonably funny in both delivery and reaction
“Dang I didn’t know he had a son, but everyone had a son at the age of 8 during this period of time” 😭😭
Imagine how heartbroken he must've felt when he was told they had to devour his son to survive.
@@CRUSH40RULES I guess it was karma, I mean he also killed and ate those 2 natives who were just helping them.
For someone who only knew that The Donner Party was shorthand for cannibalism, this was a wild ride. I went into this assuming that the Donner Party was one family. Then I gasped when three families were listed. And then I about lost it when that number jumped to 87 people. What the actual hell.
There is actually a lot of historical evidence about the Donner party and their wagon train. For example, the group was at such a disagreement that they split off into 2 groups. One taking the normal rout and the other taking the "shortcut". One evidence found out about 10+ years ago is that the bones were more than likely animal bones. But because they where so chewed and nawed on it is hard to tell. Also of the Donner's it was majority women and children left alive. George Donner died from an injury of some sort (forgotten exactly what type of injury). As for the child eater I don't remember that part of the story. Only one in the Donner group (who wasn't even a Donner family member) was thought to be a cannibal, but part of that was because he hid the body of one of the older women (from what I remember it was George Donner's wife) and he would not tell anyone where he hid her body other than she was buried where no one would ever find her body and disturb her grave. So it made many people think he had eaten her body. The others that where thought to be cannibals where in the other camp site that the Donners where not in. Also majority of the cannibalistic stories where written by a reporter/journalist who had never been with the party or even talked to the survivors of the Donner family. Of the Donner family it was only George Donner's daughters that survived.
@@melaniezirixa1239 Thank God there was only a little bit of cannibalism.
@@melaniezirixa1239 wasn't it a very hard winter? where did they get all the animals? If there were animals available why did they ever eat anyone?
Especially when they revealed what happened to the last party, Lets just say I’m very unsettled 😣🤢
They should make an episode where the professor has a substitute and Ryan takes over as the professor and Shane attempts to win
This is such a genius idea. So fucking underrated.
YES
No one wanna talk about the fact that James Reed was BFF’s with the Lincoln’s and they almost joined them on this trip but Mary Todd said no because she was pregnant
Woah I didn’t know that 😲 that’s crazy
Its crazy to think about how different things would be if Mary said yes
@@miurima you know this is where I believe that some things just happen for a reason.
Good call, Mary.
"Honey no I'm pregnant remember?"
"Oh shit Mary's right sorry guys. See ya who knows when!"
Patrick Breen had seven children.
Apparently, it wasn't hard for him to get wood after all.
Also, Patrick, his wife, and all seven kids got through this. The Breen family came out of this ordeal completely intact.
Well… physically
well, it would have been hard to get wood and.. *wood*
because he was both mentally and physically exhausted, he would've be able to swing an axe and his body wouldn't have it energy to pump his blood to his dick
(can you tell i really like the donner party?)
they where one of the two families that came out completely alive
the other being the reeds
Physically, maybe. Mentally and emotionally, they were long gone
Me: Oh how cute, the snowman has different coloured eyes!
Me thirty seconds later: Oh.
OH.
ObsessedWithOverthinking oh my god i see it now
Ok Joyce getting a jelly bean for just saying we could vacation together is the most ridiculous one yet 😂😂😂
I can’t wait to watch Ryan fistfight the professor in the puppet theater
same honestly
Blue I think we all will be
We need a ryan puppet
@@Blue-sk7nm I’d be the one just screams “take that Professor”
puppet colosseum
I just realized that the snowman's arms are bones instead of sticks...
His eyes are also different colours because they come from two different people…
I've been so intrigued by the song that I never noticed until I read your comment.
The man who ran off into the woods likely already had hypothermia. Feeling overheated is a symptom of late stage hypothermia and many suffers strip their clothes off. Theres a lot of naked bodies on everest
Paradoxical undressing
Exactly what I was thinking. I’ve listened to enough MrBallen stories to have that immediately pop into my head.
I thought that was a separate thing called hyperthermia? Forgive me if I’m wrong
@@thenorthernbard3688 But they’re talking about hypothermia? What?
@@astrocake584 So basically there's hypothermia which is the body's inability to deal with excessive cold and hyperthermia is the body's inability to deal with excessive heat. I was wondering if late stage hypothermia was akin to hyperthermia since they mentioned the overheating aspect of it.
I'd give the snowman a hand for that performance, but, it sounds like he already has several
underrated comment
Oh dang
Aayyeee
*groan*
that was pretty good
Nice.
Disappointed that the professor didn’t mention that one of the families (Irish) survived with every member, including several children under five
The Dark they didn’t mention the Graves family either
Or the dikrats >:(
@@penguinside6728 XD a fellow person of culture I see
@@penguinside6728 wait- is that a starkid reference??? POG
These 19 behind-the-scenes facts about iconic horror movies are pretty interesting : bzfd.it/38JdgnJ
Joyce's constant disgust and disappointment of Ryan and The Professor's stupidity makes this my favorite episode
great comment, Karkat Vantas from Homestuck!
when they didn’t pick anton’s hand from the fire and instead ate him was the literal definition of a snaccident
I still don’t get why a burned hand wasn’t enough to wake up antione.
“I don’t do math, I’m cute” I LOVE HER
My excuse in math class for my bad grades.
Same
It makes sense, I was good at math in school and I’m ugly
You gotta admire her blind confidence.
She's such a mood
Ryan says a good pun but professor doesn’t want to reward him so he gives him a point that doesn’t actually count😂😂
Me: [see the name Independence]
My brain: 'I N D E P E N D E N C E welcome to the city so pleasing that everyone's leaving, fuck it, go west-
- Or else you get bit
BY A BEAR, OR A SNAKE, MOTHER NATURE'S REALLY GREAT
additionally:
there's lots to learn
ho oh ho ho ho
oh hO hO oH Ho
HA
O X L I K E M E
hell yes
@@electriccc.glypphh.arttttttttt Insert Jeff giggle here
beforeyougothe gen er al store hasallyouneedandplentymore..
Okay, but the sincerity in The Professor’s voice when he thanked Ryan for being an awesome guest the entire season had no right to make me so soft
Shane's not a demon.. he never was.
HE'S THE DAMN GENIE
A Demon Genie!
He is Klaus!
So that’s why the demons are scared of him, because genies are more powerful
Me, sees 500 miles: starts signing the proclaimers song
Ryan and the Professor: 500 miles but to the tune of Vanessa Carltons Thousand Miles.
Me: ... Ight.
Laura Alexander trying to avoid that sweet copyright
Laura try to avoid that sweet copyright.
I can never get past the fact that "Donner Party" is one vowel off from "Dinner Party".
Also, I thought that Hastings HAD traveled the route but that he had done it alone on horseback and was not being honest (maybe even just to himself) about how much harder it'd be to take a wagon train through there.
Never trust a lawyer.
There is actually a card game called Donner Dinner Party
Hastings traveled the route but only after he'd published a book about it, and he had an experienced survivalist and a horse. I believe he ended up offering to lead people through the pass but I don't know if he actually committed to it.
The Professor: **barely able to contain his excitement** Oooh some of them will be taking the _biggest_ naps soon
Ryan: **grinning** An *everlasting* one
Joyce: **facepalms** oh you boys...
The Professor and Ryan: **evil maniacal laughter**
DEVELOPMENT
This is like Horrible Histories and the Muppets had a child
Omg yes just add a bit of swearing
It would be really cool if Horrible Histories was still going and they invited Shane for one episode....
@drawingsticks5333, it restarted in 2015. I think it is still going.
But with a new cast that not a lot of people like lmaoooo
The original HH cast have a show called ghosts now which is kinda historical in that the ghosts are from different time periods
Added note: Keseberg denied everything and sued for slander people who accused him of the gruesome behavior at the lake. He won a whole $1 in damages but had to pay the court costs.
Yah and he still had the fake story hanging over his head which very negatively effected his quality of life.
Also the story they told about him does not go along with most first hand accounts of survival cannibalism.
I’m sorry but the line “he won a whole $1” sounds really funny to me 😭
I can't imagine how much more grisly this would have been if Ryan was the one telling the tale. No hate to him, I love his way of explaining an incident but it's definitely more spooky kind while Shane's style is more cartoonish type
Ryan: blinks
The Professor: That's a negative Jellybean
Little rotten jellybean boy
Any guest: breathes
The Professor: You get a Jellybean!
“Alright everybody, we’ll meet up at Ryan’s vomit can. You’ll know it by the smell and the big framed picture of Ryan.”
The Ryan Bergarbage Can*
@@AuDHDarling I cannot stop laughing at the Ryan Bergarbage Can!!! thank you so much
@@AuDHDarling thats the best thing I've read in a long while.
Nobody:
The people to that 23 year old mans hand in the fire :
Seems a down right shame,
seems an awful waste,
such a nice plump frame
God, that's good!
What’s his name has... had...
Has!
And it cant be traced... 😁
if you get it. when you get it.....good, you got it
@@dajanae1216
Especially with the price of meat what it is!
I love joyce, she's like a sunflower field
This is such a perfect description, like you have so perfectly summed up the essence of her screen presence
Joyce adds a lot. Is she a regular or have her own channel?
A fat, shirtless sunflower field
For clarification purposes, the man that took his clothes off and run into the wilderness was already dying of hypothermia. When a person has severe hypothermia they experience something called "paradoxical undressing". The body performs vasoconstriction to keep warm, but eventually it fails if the person remains in the same conditions, giving the person a false sense of intense heat, which makes them want to undress.
The Professor and Ryan both knowing EXACTLY how this story goes while Joyce knows nothing, Ryan and The Professor making VERY morbid jokes, a snowman with a stomach mouth is great!
This was a wild ride for an Australian who had never heard of the Donner Party, damn.
One of the posters said the local natives actually tried to help these people - left food and blankets. The Donner party repeatedly refused and shot at them.
The Native Americans gave up.
Some people were meant to be frozen dinners.
recoil53 It’s really their own damn faults. I still feel bad for them but like if they just swallowed their prejudice... and not their family huh.
I am an Australian who has heard of them because I googled them after watching the shining... it’s insane.
@@gothsloth the pun points go to you
Same
I love that they referenced vanessa carlton's a thousand miles when there is also the proclaimers' 500 miles which would have been more apt
I think Ryan WAS referencing The Proclaimers, albeit in a very offbeat way to avoid copyright
I think you missed the most important detail; They weren't starving. They died from the cold, not starvation. They thought they died of starvation and that's why they ate each other but they where actually just not dressed for the cold and the insane amounts of snow. Like seriously at the lake there's a statue of the Donner party that's really tall because it's as high as the snow reached google it.
Lmaoooooooo A++++++ addition
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Why is the cause of death on the table with all of them listed as starvation for some people?
I've seen it and believe me, it is TALL
Heard about one member of the party falling asleep at night and woke up to a complete panic attack. Wondering where the fuck did every one go, everyone was gone, completely gone thinking they left with out him. Then he realised EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING WAS BURRIED COMPLETELY IN SNOW
@@Snozzberry_Slush jesus