The Issue with Philodendron El Choco Red
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- How to propagate Philodendron El Choco Red? I will be taking a top cutting as well as some more stem cuttings. The plant has issues with unfurling leaves and potentially root rot. In each Houseplant collection there are plants that kinda act out. I airlayered it with Sphagnum moss beforehand to have the best possible chance at success. I did propagate many Monstera, Pothos, Anthurium and other indoor plants before but never such a thicc stemmed Philodendron. Wish me luck !
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Philodendron El choco red propagation
Hi, just in case this helps anyone with ripped leaves due to improper unfurling:
I don't have an El Chocó. But, I've had the same problem with a White Bird of Paradise. I tried steam, changes on light, humidity, reporting, etc.
At last I found the issue is due to lack of enough water absorption. This may be through a damaged root system (not my case), or too chunky soil in combination with less watering than the plant requires ✔️.
The above, seems to be consistent with your particular issue.
Additionally, El Chocó is a jungle region between Colombia and Ecuador. I'm Colombian. That particular rainforest is absurdly hot and it rains constantly there. I think it may rain more there than in the Amazon.
So, you may try an aeroid mix with a bit more coconut bark to retain more moisture, or perhaps a plastic pot, or increase the water frequency.
I know this is an old video, but I hope this helps.
Incredibly helpful comment, I'm pinning this! Thank you Anil 💚💪
UPDATES on these cuttings: ua-cam.com/video/JRMyChbXVEk/v-deo.html
Hi and thank you so much for stopping by 💚Excuse my cracked voice in this video, I am still recovering from a very intense cold I had 🤧
Do you have an update on the propagations? Which medium worked best?
I have had WILD success with using "crazy keiki cloning paste" on axillary buds in aroids, my plants will shoot out new leaves very very fast.
I have put keiki paste in my amazon cart like a year ago and never really pulled the trigger on buying it 😂😂 Maybe this is my sign to finally try it out 🤔.
Hi, could you do a follow up of your propagations? I just got my El choco in not very good conditions, so I'm thinking about choping it and propagating it. Thank you :)
Hi, there 😊 I show an update in the following videos. The props are well, even though some of them didn't do great in the beginning and I had to reroot them because they somehow lost all their roots troughout the process. I think one stem cutting died completely all other pieces are alive. You can find an update at the very beginning of this video: ua-cam.com/video/TQ7sDpOCgWs/v-deo.html
And also the latest update right here: ua-cam.com/video/67Pl5x7lpDc/v-deo.html at 10:25 and at the and I think.
I can recommend water & perlite propagation.
OMG! I have EXACTLY the same issue with my plowmanii! It gets stuck in exactly the same way and even rips at the same spot of the leaf😫 I assumed it was a humidity issue so I propagated it and put the well rooted new plant in my detolf cabinet. It just put out another leaf and the SAME thing happened🤦 It could still be that I haven't quite figured put the watering this plant needs, so If I try to prop it again I'll try a semi-hyro substrate ( its been in a chunky soil and fern fiber mix) I LOVE What this plant is supposed to look like, so I'm totally determined to figure this guy out🤔
Ahhh that sucks... I really hope there is a way to fix the plant, for You & Me. I think watering is for sure important too, but that your plant is ripping even in a cabinet is really weird. I would have thought that high humidity fixes everything. Plowmanii are so beautiful though 😍.
@@LeafyLuster I would've thought so too! I still do think I need to figure out the exact substrate and watering that it needs. There are a few other signs that water could be part of the issue, so I'm definitely working on that. 🤞🤞
Hii do you have a final update for us? I’m so curious!
Great Video 😍
Glad you liked it!
Great Video. I had no friends but now thanks to you i have my plants and they are my friends now i talk to them everyday.
Glad I could help
i have this issue with plow and mamei but i wont bother with many types
I have it with some other Philodendron too, like Melanochrysum and Brandtianum 😭😭
Gurl with this editing and your Face, voice I had to sub!
This is me with my el choco, I bought it tiny from tissue culture. Twas already weird but now they're all yellow except the new growth which looks healthy 😭 I just can't understand but am trying I'm being patience hopefully it won't die on me.
I think it didn't like me moving it around 🙄 I truly don't know
Awwww staaahp. You're to sweet Ayishah 🥰.
Tissue culture can be tricky as young plants are reeeeeally sensitive to anything & everything basically. I haven't tried growing out ornamental cell culture plugs yet but I used to work in a lab. So maybe you are right and it didn't like you moving it around a lot. Stay strong, I think as long as the new growth looks good you're probably safe 😅 I'm crossing my fingers your Choco will figure itself out soon 😊🤞
@@LeafyLuster it died on me 😭 I had to move things around since there was torrential rain here in Mauritius the place was leaked. It died and I'm trying to find one more but bigger crossing fingers they bring it again.
Thank you I truly appreciate your response 🙏 ❤️
Oh no, that's really unlucky. Crossing my fingers you'll find an even more beautiful el choco soon 😊🤞.
I had the same issue with the leaves of my El Choco Red and then decided to put it into a self watering pot. The problem was done by that, the plant is growing fine now with beautiful leaves.
Thanks for the tip Marie! I have one cutting growing in water and one in a semi hydro situation with perlite. Seeing the growth of those two, I absolutely have to agree with your suggestion/ experience.
Nice vid❤
Thanks Kurk 😊
I got two stuck leaves on my scindapsus last week and I just sort of cut along the sheath (w a needle) like a banana and they came out fine lol
Also whenever I get new plants in compacted soil or those crappy little net baskets inside them, I dip the roots in a bucket of water until most of it comes loose.
Very nice, glad you were able to save them! I tried something similar with a scalpel on my choco and I managed to get like 2 leaves that were ok. But honestly, sometimes I don't notice the new leaf coming in until it is already too late to help 🙈. The tip with flushing the soil is actually suuuper smart. I definetly should try that out in the future, thank you for the tips! 💚
My El Choco Red doesn't do this (but my Pink Princess definitely does!) My El Choco Red is growing in lechuza pon, at about 65-70% humidity in my grow tent. I have another one in chunky aroid soil, and the one in pon definitely grows faster and looks healthier - maybe give pon a try if those other substrates don't work out!
Oh my gosh don't even get me started on my PPP 😂. I will keep the info about pon in mind. Constant hydration seems to be very beneficial. Thank you for the help Chelsea! 💚
Gibt es schon ein Update dazu irgendwo?😊 bin so neugierig!
I usually dont remove the moss, just put it inside the soil with the moss ball-so you dont have to untangle everything and it also works :)
Danke für deinen Input Johannes.
I had some issues with root rot once and ever since I haven't tried to pot up the roots with all of the moss attached. BUT it definetly would make things way easier. If it works for you, I might try it next time!
What kind of soil mix do you use, or does that even matter in this case?
@@LeafyLuster i use my own mix (coco Chips, perlite and normal soil) :)
i did hear it likes to be watered alot and more humid
Thank you for the tip Shannon, I am pretty sure I wasn't watering it right...I did underwater it most of the time. 🙈
Love your videos, my first time here. You are great at explaining and instruction. But, I am wondering where did the you get the little jars with the glass lids? They are so cute. Thanks
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I used to get annoyed with my El Choco Red. I exposed it to grow lights and the plant hated it. I gave it low, medium light. It was still not happy. I was almost ready to give it away when I finally found a spot for it to thrive in. It is on the floor between a shelf with grow lights and a window with ambient humidity. It is also growing in pon in a self watering pot.
Wow thank you so much much for all this detailed insight. I'm learning so much from the comment section about this plant. It seems that self watering or semi hydro is the way to go with this plant. I have one cutting in perlite/semi hydro and one in just water. They do really well in there. I haven't figured out the perfect light yet, the experience you shared really helps me consider the perfect spot for it.
Thanks again Monica 💚🌿😊
I literally had to put a ziplock bag on mine and spray it to get the leaves to come out
Ughhh that sucks so bad ^^. I'm really curious. The big chonk grew so nicely in the meantime. I just recently took it out of the prop box. Let's hope it won't start acting up again, otherwise it might need to go 😈😅.
100% the same happened with my el choco but the leaves never unfurled they always rotted in the cataphyl! i chopped it down aswell amd was surprised how ugly the root system was...gonna start new with it now :)
Sometimes it's easiest to start over and regrow everything fresh! The top cutting I rooted and cut in this video is looking good so far, no new leave to show off though... 😊 But the huge stump has already pushed out 2 new growthpoints and 1 leaf already unfurled 🥳 I'm very hopeful.
Loved the video! Can't wait for the updates! ❤😁
Me too!! I check every day, so far it has been 4 days and so far I can't see a lot happening, which is awful cause I am so incredibly impatient 😅
Thank you for this video! I was having a very similar problem with my el choco and so I decided to check the roots (they were actually, ok), and then I chopped the “stump/chonk” up into a “top cutting”, and 2 big pieces off of the bottom that each ended up having their own pretty nice root system. I put them in sphagnum moss and in a clear container and covered it with cling wrap and put it under my growlights in my milsbo cabinet. So far, the top cutting is growing a new leaf spike, and one of the 2 rooted chonks has 3 (that I can see so far, so maybe more!!) new growth points/axillary buds that are budding!! The larger of the 2 chonks doesn’t look to be doing anything yet, but it’s only been a few weeks. Seeing you do almost the exact same thing, and having just gone on instinct myself, I am now feeling much more confident that I did it right! I may take the piece that isn’t doing anything out of the moss and try it in perlite to see if that speeds up new growth. It was very interesting seeing your process and I am really looking forward to an update! How are your babies doing??
Honestly, reading YOUR story with the El choco I am relieved as well . Sometimes I do things a little impulsively but I think it was the right decision too. I'm just glad I finally checked the roots and noticed how bad they were 😅. I'm happy you feel a little better noch. Definetly try perlite it really works best for me. You can check the Updates on the props here: ua-cam.com/video/TQ7sDpOCgWs/v-deo.html . By now the big chonk in perlite has unfurled 2 new leaves and a 3rd one is coming. It's getting tight in the little propbox 😁. With your Milsbo cabinet + lights your plants should be fine even without the plastic container eventually, right ?
Cool experiment! I'm very curious how the cuttings are doing these days? I have an el choco in my cabinet that I will be chopping and propping soon, and trying some of the props in normal room conditions
Hi, there 😊 the props are doing well. Even though some of them didn't do great and I had to reroot them because they somehow lost all their roots troughout the process. I think one stem cutting died completely all other pieces are alive. You can find an update at the very beginning of this video: ua-cam.com/video/TQ7sDpOCgWs/v-deo.html
And also the latest update right here: ua-cam.com/video/67Pl5x7lpDc/v-deo.html at 10:25 and at the and I think.
Waterpropagation in normal room conditions does not seem to be an issue.
Can we get an update on these please?
Hi Grace 😊 the props are doing well. You can find an update at the very beginning of this video: ua-cam.com/video/TQ7sDpOCgWs/v-deo.html
here: ua-cam.com/video/67Pl5x7lpDc/v-deo.html at 10:25 and at the end.
And the most recent one with dedicated updates here: ua-cam.com/video/JRMyChbXVEk/v-deo.html
Hope this helps, see u next time :)
Okay so I've been wanting this plant for 2 years already and I did just place on order as it *finally* became available in my country
You just helped me come up with an idea for a new video, thank you Anda. I'll put together a video on all the most wanted updates about plants, lights and props. I can tell you this much, El Choco is not the easiest plant to propagate somehow. I am also still not fully at a stage where I have an established, potted and most importantly healthy plant 🙈 its still a little bit of a struggle. I'll try to film it this week hopefully 🤞😊 see u soon.
I hope your plant arrived well with you?!
@@LeafyLuster Yaaaai, happy me! Well, to be honest, I think most of our plants are not exactly cover magazine worthy, but it's the process of growing them that's interesting and all the things you learn from it. Hopefully after *not too many fails and bumps* we'll get that luscious pot of whatever we're trying to grow, fingers crossed, haha.
@@LeafyLuster it did! for now it looks great, am very curious to see how it will develop.
I love philodendron triumphans
Oh my gosh , thank you so much. I just learned that the choco red has this other name too 🤯I should research my plants more 😅
@@LeafyLuster I think it's philodendron rubrijuvenile, which used to be triumphans.
so its tough?
what do you mean ?
Ooook, i tried this technique with my deffenbachia reflector. And after 2 months there were 0 roots. So I just gave up 😆... And you waited even 4 months....maybe I was too fast XD
Yep some plants need a lot of time to root, especially if the condititons arent't right. I am not sure if it works for Diffenbachia though. I dont own any , so I don't know how or where to prop them.