So you wanna boost your 2.5L (Part 1)
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Ive seen this question alot on the 2.5L Facebook Group and many have asked me too, what all is needed to boost the 2.5L and how much does it cost? I do my best to answer this for a Low Cost turbo set up. Recording was 40 minutes long so I had to split it into two videos lol.
Just got a 2.5. It was a convenience buy. Of course I immediately want to do stuff to it.
This video was super informative. I'm a big fan of boosted German machines.
i don't even have a 2.5 but i watched the first few minutes of this video because i know my friend is wanting to boost his. the information you give as well as the way you present yourself is very professional. it pains me to see this video with only 30k views when you DEFINITELY deserve much more. keep it up and here's hoping you get the full recognition you deserve
Wow, thanks man! This made my day.
Hiw many people do you think want to boost their vw 2.5l???
@@NickVetter well, I'm one.
@Alex Bahena that's the primary benefit
@@SubsurfacePodcast yo man I just got a 2010 2.5 and want to add some power. What would be my best first mod?
dont have a whole lot of money for a build right now, this video is making me think to go with an SRI/tune for now till i can boost my rabbit. thanks a lot man, subbed
I have a 2008 rabbit and i looked at other videos and yours was the better and more informative thanks alot dude !
Dam bro should of listed the parts on in the description. Got me writing shit down 😭
Just like school! lol
You did an amazing job explaining man , some of us has had these 🐺 burg projects for so long . 💪🏽💪🏽💚
Your videos are always informative & well made. I’m collecting parts for a build. Bought a spare motor to change the internals. I’ll be in touch for any further advice.
im in the process of doing this to my mk6 golf, great video!!
If you wanna play you gotta pay
End of discussion.
Hey I have a 2.5L rabbit but I try and search up a turbo online and could never find one does anyone know what kind of turbo it needs
Search up 07K turbo kit, that’s what the 2.5 motor is called
SPA Turbo also makes intakes now!! cheap af
Can this work on my 2010 MK 6 Golf 2.5? Also can you send me a physical list of these items?
I have a 2013 2.5 liter passat and I’ve called 2 different shops around me and they all said there was nothing i could do to it I’ve been searching for weeks and weeks i just hope i can find something! I love the pep this car has but i was a lil more ✨spice✨
They may be right only because United Motorsports is the only company that offer turbo software via OBD flash. And they stopped really writing files after 2010 or so. But another option if you want good power is going standalone. ECUmasters has their EMUblack unit that you can have custom tuned using a harness built by Chris Beatty, and a stock motor with the right fuel and turbo set up can make over 400hp to the wheels.
We have eca tuning now???
Or a Beetle (don’t want to turbo)?
A little late but turbo that thing
I appreciate your time and effort in doing the video I got a bit of useful information.
However I was going to see the actual install
But it does state the intake manifold won't fit on cars with hydraulic steering.
For integrated engineering
This is true. However some have went around that by either swapping to an electric steering rack and some VAGCOM coding, or cutting and welding a notch into the intake manifold and installing a custom bracket to move p/s pump over some.
I just recently got an 07 rabbit and im looking for a good place to buy parts from online so that i can start to work on the car im gonna keep all thats been said in mind but im not the biggest car guy so i wouldnt know where to start
I have a passat 2.5 and I just found out yesterday that Audi still puts that engine in their rs3 models
The rs3 2.5l is actually different from these. The blocks are built to handle higher boosts
you should list the info and links in the info section! Thanks for posting!
Sooooo what’s the verdict? This isn’t a budget build, this is a $4,000 build when your turbo is $800-$900 and a tune is $1200. Why would you want a turbo that is rated for 500 hp when your stock internals can’t hold more than 250 hp. Why set your goal on 14psi if the MAF is maxed out at 10-11 psi... what spark plugs are recommended and what’s the heat range? What’s the spark gap for 10-11psi on the 2.5? Does the rabbit have forged internals? Do they use the same rods? What are the costs for the intercooler and charge pipes? What diameter pipes? Im seeing a rabbit from far away but want to see a 2.5 turbo build up close and what you had to go through to make it all possible. What software is this $1200 tune and are there any mods to the ecu and are the any stand-alone options? If your still using the stock fuel pump, injectors, fuel rail and maf, why not just use a piggyback? The same way it takes practice to learn how to use a piggy back? Anyone who can tune can also tune with an intermediate tuner and the owner can learn how to operate it as well just like an electric boost controller. A 2010 rabbit can handle 18-22ish psi with a slightly bigger turbo or even s stock one but not recommended. You can get a rabbit to do more than a 2.5 for a fraction of the cost and wayyyyy less time and labor and def without a $1200 tune or $800 turbo. Just the thought of boosting a 2.5 your at $2k for 10-11 psi of (safe) boost when you can spend $500 on a rabbit for 20psi of (safe) boost. Even tho a rabbit is a little more exp than a 2.5, by the time your done dropping money on a 2.5, your way over the budget on what you could have gotten a rabbit for. Your driving experience with the 2.5 compared to the rabbit isn’t legit bcs you put better parts on the 2.5 vs stock rabbit. You put that same turbo on a rabbit with 18-20 psi and the same &1200 tune you’ll get better results.
My man. There is no Rabbit in 2010. Rabbits exists (modern ones anyway) from 2006-2009. Then they released the MK7.5 GTI "Rabbit Edition" and they released it when I still worked for VW and I looked over the cars closely and to slap "Rabbit edition" on them was laughable because they are identical to a standard GTI. But anyway. You ALSO dont understand how boost pressure works when comparing turbo sizes. First off, 10 psi in a medium frame turbo vs 18 psi in a small ass k03 or k04 will NOT flow the same. Stock GTI turbos are very small and the 2.5L has such a great flowing head, a bigger turbo is needed. Not to mention you cant just use a GTI turbo on the 2.5L anyway as far as bolting it on goes. This Rabbit (2007) has a factory forged crank put the pistons and rods are not forged. With good tuning you can run 14, 16, 18 psi and more on these stock internals. It just depends on whether or not your fuel system is keeping up with it, depends on your elevation, fuel quality and local selection (91 vs 93) and more variables. This video was to give everyone an idea and keep it simple. You CAN boost these cars with stock internals, with stock MAF, stock fuel pump, upgraded injectors, a sufficient intercooler set up and legitimate tune. And trust me man....not just anyone can tune these 2.5Ls. Just because someone can mess with an electronic boost controller does NOT mean they can tune this motor lol. Look up the cam phasing lol. Thats what separates the real TUNERS from the guys who are dealers for tuning companies who think they can start tuning whatever comes through their door. Been there. Done that. Seen it on dozens of other 2.5 owners cars. Ive owned two 2.5s now. One N/A with full bolt ons and this one. Both tuned. Both were actually tuned by the same guy. Years apart. And ive spent the last 5 years or so studying the 2.5 specific pages without veering off into any other platform. Now, you tossed like 20 questions in your comment and its hard to hit them all but...yeah you mentioned these motors can only hold 250hp so why use a 500hp rated turbo. Thats because these engines can hold 350-400 WHP. Not 250. And Thats WHEEL. So a 500hp turbo (which is usually rated on an engine dyno or simply calculated based on flow) would be ideal so its not too small which would likely cause too aggressive of a torque curve, potentially bending the stock rods, as torque at the wheels should be no higher than 350 ft/lbs. But with the right boost control, you can sustain the power band and keep 350 wtq quite long and stretch the horsepower out to 7,500 rpms or more even exceeding 400 at the wheels. Stock head buy the way can rev 8,200 RPMs with no upgrades. Can the MK7 "Rabbit" do that? Can the MK7 sound as good as a boosted 2.5L? Normally sound is subjective but unfortunately in this case, NO ONE thinks a 2.0 TSI motor sounds better than an 07k. Also you mentioned why run 14 psi if the MAF maxes out at 10 psi? Well Thats because ProMafs exist. Spark plug gap for boost is around .024-.026 with NGK iridiums 1 heat range cooler than OEM. And the reason someone might want to spend thousands on boosting a 2.5L rather than getting into a car payment of $400-$500 a mont on top of outrageous mod prices from companies like APR....is simply because it feels WAY better to not be like everyone else.
Stock internals can only handle what...??? Go away
08 rabbit turbo kit link?
Yoooooo! Imma body my 2.5L Beetle 🤙🏼
Hey man..working on a build myself..do you or i guess anyone who reads this have the maf wires color coded for which is voltage, ground signals etc? Bangin my head over this
For a 08 model
do you know of a company that tunes a boosted 2.5L instead of NA?
Just ordered a stage 2 ie intake manifold and 034 motorsport engine mounts. Hoping to buy some boosty stuff soon too for my mk6.
Edit: ordered a spa manifold and dual ball bearing gt35 turbo for it. Can't wait to hear the sweet sounds of a turbo 5 cylinder.
@@cbrky3271 hows it going ?
@@cbrky3271 any social i can follow to keep up with build?
@@cbrky3271 Any luck?
@@cbrky3271 where'd you find a intake manifold?
What does boosting the 2.5l get you? I've seen tons of videos on this subject and dyno stats but nothing on how that power boost transfers to the car through the ground. Does it hook up and drop your numbers or does it just burn your tires off? I have an 09 with only 69k on it. I run the IE power kit (manifold, CAI, and Stage 2 tune) and a Magnaflow exhaust and I can barely keep it from smoking the tires.
Tires make a world of a difference. The tires I used to spin with my stage 2 Jetta would be worthless on the boosted Rabbit. It all depends on the turbo setup, the suspension, tires and how you drive.
Stiff rear suspension will help keep the front end from lifting which helps keep traction. They make lower control arm bushings for the front that are anti-lift which in a way have the same effect. 200 tread wear tires will grip very well with a boosted 2.5L but also if you have a small frame turbo and high boost it'll spin no matter what. If you have a medium frame to large frame turbo with some boost control where it doesn't smash peak boost right away, it'll help keep traction as well.
@@SubsurfacePodcast I live just south of you but I have a cabin in North Carolina. I've been going up there to blast the mountain roads on either my motorcycles (Ducati) or my VDubs for 35 years. My bunny is set up with sticky tires, currently Nitto NT01s, and full suspension mods, Bilstein PSS10 coilovers, H&R F&R sway bars and end links, ECS stage 3 aluminum control arms, R32 big brake kit and more. The engine mods I did were more for the torque increases than HP and speed. It's an 09 MK5 Rabbit and I've only got 69k on it, but I'd bet 50k of that has been on the mountain roads. It's only been driven up there twice. Most of the time I trailer it and my bike up although just 2 weeks ago when i was up there I bought a used tricked out Ducati 821 to leave. I should build a garage and leave the bunny to also as I rarely drive it here. I was just curious what the boosted 0-60 and 1/8 mile times were over stock.
Might seem like a strange question but when you add a turbo on the 2.5L does the fuel millage increase or decrease?
That depends on alot. Impossible to give an accurate answer. I can tell you on mine, if I drive normal, the miles per gallon are very good. Like stock maybe even better. But as soon as I start getting on it, the gas mileage is far worse than stock.
Once I have more cash I should get one of these as a daily. Love my MK3 but it's really slow. It's getting some kind of 4 cylinder turbo soon™
Nice! Yeah i love the MKV platform especially with the 2.5L
@@SubsurfacePodcast 5 cylinders for the win!
Yea I want to build a turbo 2.5 beetle 13’
I want to do it but i have 215k on the engine:/
If your compression is good and your timing system is from late 2007 or newer you'd be fine.
I feel that man! I have a 2006 with 210k and I want to turbo it so bad!
Florida 07K what about a 2006?
bro i have a 2008 rabbit and its automatic, and I'm going IE stage 1. would love to go stage 2 and boost but at that point I'm considering just buying a new rabbit for the standard trans so I can really go at it
For anyone who's considering using the automatic version for performance mods be aware there are valve body replacements for the automatic transmission which can handle up to 700 horsepower. Of course it would be wise to rebuild the transmission with performance parts like an upgraded clutch pack and installing a transmission cooler. At that point the 09G could handle performance driving easily. Like the original commentor said you should consider buying the standard version if 300+ horsepower is your range and you don't want to drop $2,500 on an upgraded valve body.
@nabu4637 is the any more info on this? I was under the impression that 250tq is all the trans can handle, period!
Hey man I want to turbo my 2009 vw rabbit is there anyway I can get the list thank you
Would the ECU flash work for my 2010 VW Jetta 2.5!? And if so, can you please contact me for further details on parts I need?! I dream everyday of a nice turbo in my inline 5 lol
Yes it would, I recommend Intergrated Engineering for the tune.
Where in Florida could I find a place that could tune my car but not charge me a huge amount ?
I would only go to a place that is a dealer for IE or UM. Have them flash it. You can find these dealers on UMs website. USP motorsports in Coral Springs flashed UM software to my car. It was actually at Fixxfest in Bradenton. But they haven't went the past 2 years.
I have a 2010 Volkswagen golf that I'm looking to get 2 step and launch control on it but can't find a place to do it on Volkswagens can you help me out please I live in Longview Washington
Hey man, 11 07k I have SPA manifold, Turbonetics 62/62, eBay fmic, then generic oil lines etc, Bosche 550cc injectors, New spark plugs supporting ,mods etc. I took it to the most reputable shop around me , they got half way through engine tear down and gave me a call saying they have no idea to make the parts work, but would fab me a kit for 8k... what would you recommend from here ?
Edit: Grammar
Great vid man,
Bwperformance doesn’t sell that exhaust manifold anymore.
The last time I checked, they no longer listed it on their website but when you call them with the set up or specs you need they still offer it
Florida 07K Ok thanks.
Is a boosted 2.5 a weekend project car or if you do proper parts , stay within limits and run say just 8 psi max , can i daily this monday to friday to work ?
I have a 2011 2.5 any tips on how to make actual power safely?
Links to products mentioned?
Hi I have a 2010 Volkswagen golf 2.5 liter and I can't find any place to get it chipped and tuned I live in Longview Washington
Visit Unitedmotorsport.net and check their dealer network for a shop close to you that offers their software flashing.
How many miles can stock 2.5 last if left alone, before major repair like timing chain? How often is oil drain interval? 👍
There are plenty of 2.5s that are passed 200k and 300k miles on original timing system. Some early models (2005.5 - early 2007) had some timing issues which were revised so most of them are good now and everything from 2007 on had better parts so you really never have to worry about it.
Factory oil change interval when I bought my 2010 Jetta brand new was every 10,000 miles with Castrol Edge 5w40 full synthetic. But I recommend changing it every 5,000 - 7,000 miles.
@@SubsurfacePodcast what would be a couple symptoms of a failing timing chain?
My 2.5 Wolfsburg edition is a 2007 and has 240k miles on it. Still going strong so
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I wanna get an ECU for my 07 jetta but i dont know which one is the best, i was thinking about going with Integrated Engineering stage 1. Any thoughts on that? or advices, please and thank you
Integrated Engineering and United Motorsports have the two best tunes. UM is known to be more aggressive and make more power, but IE is still good. Costs about the same. IE will send you a dongle to connect you laptop to the car so you can load the tune yourself, but the dongle costs extra. UM dosnt offer one but they have a network of dealers that offer UMs tune. Which is what I did. I had USP Motorsports flash my car with UM software.
I personally have the integrated engineering stage 1 tune rn and it’s pretty good power wise, but makes the car sound inane it’s pretty much An ak47 tune if ur cats are out, if u want to see for yourself check out my Instagram @thathated_mk5
Spend the money and buy a AEM infinity series 5. $1400.
Ebay bolt on turbo 700 bucks. ECU flash 700. 🤗
My buddy has his oem s5 turbo that is laying around
What about if we don’t want to run a traditional intercooler are there any good water to air intercoolers out there?
It's been done but it's 100% custom work
Dose united motorsports do remote tune also so they offer options like 2 step flat shift and pop and crackle?
Pop and crackle is a MK7 thing with all those people that don't want POWER. They just want to be heard. UM doesn't spend time writing tunes just to make noise. They are top notch and its honestly because they focus on performance. They don't do remote tuning like shipping a handheld device to you, but you can go to many shops around U.S. and Canada that are a part of UMs network of dealers. USP motorsports in Coral Springs, FL flashed me over with UM software. I believe they offer no-lift shift upon request. Not sure about 2-step or anti-lag
@@SubsurfacePodcast ok well is it possible for me to ship my ecu to them for tuning see I live in a tropical country and I'm thinking about doing a 07k turbo project instead of the vr5 I currently have the conditions in my country are pretty close to Florida
Also I in the video I didn't see you mention anything about repurposing a Lamborghini header to use for the turbo manifold I've seen them on eBay as low as 600usd or did I hear you say anything about the holset hx35 turbo...just trying to get your input on these options
@@mrrpm246246 there is one or two people who are reusing a Lamborghini Gallardo header on the 2.5 with starting in naturally aspirated form and they are planning on adding a turbo to the system. But these are people in the Porsche platform using 944 chassis. It does work with minor modification. I don't know how well that header flows compared to a specially designed header from Ice engine works, formerly known as Evolution tuning. The header from them is known to be the best exhaust upgrade for the 2.5L. As for the Holset, I'm not familiar with their turbos at all or whether it will fit but that definitely depends on the manifold used.
@@SubsurfacePodcast ok thanks for making this informative video you have given me some much appreciated insite into turboing a 07k
Im braziliam and not good english. You can write the list of all mods?
Where would i get the oil feed from?
Passenger side of cylinder head. There is an Allen bolt in place that you can remove.
I’ve heard boosting 2.5L is not very smart I’m confused
Anyone who says it's not smart probably only knows of one person to have done it and they probably didn't do much right. Example, there are countless people out there who want a fast car but have ZERO intention of spending money. They don't care about quality. They just want pops n bangs...
Boosting the 2.5L is far from a bad idea. I've been driving my boosted Rabbit for 2 years, beating on it all the time. As long as you have a good tune and don't exceed the engines limits (say over 400 wheel torque and 430+ whp) then you'll be fine. Of course it depends how you drive and care for the car. If you start it up and start hauling ass to work, getting into boost before the engine warms up, you'll run into problems. Letting it cool down for 1-2 full minutes after doing a few pulls. That sort of thing goes a long way. Also using quality fuel and oil.
Can I get a copy of that list and specs ??
Yo do you have a link to the rs4 fuel pump? Was it plug and play?
It's not plug n play. Needs to be retro-fitted to the OEM Jetta/Rabbit top section. I bought the RS4 pump assembly off RockAuto. I think the brand was VDO or similar.
idek if anyone will respond, but my 2012 passat 2.5 just hit 101k miles, nothing wrong with the engine, no metal in oil. nothing. could i boost my car and still be okay
Yes
You mentioned a guy you know working on a budget turbo kit was wondering if he for sure has abandoned the project and if so have you ever thought about making one of you own
I don't know him personally but his name is Doug Harper and he's the owner of frankenturbo. He was developing a turbo kit that was supposed to be budget-friendly using some OEM parts from Audi and Volkswagen and utilizing certain stock parts that came in our cars. But it was a few things that prove difficult to keep the kit on a budget level and ultimately he ended up stopping the progression. But that doesn't stop people from boosting their 2.5
So would you need the model with a MAF or would it work fine with the MAP sensor instead
You can have either set up tuned. The tuning company I strongly recommend is United Motorsport. Their MAF tunes typically require you to mail your ECU to them (good for less downtime) but MAP only vehicles can be tuned by a shop that is a part of their network of dealers, by plugging in through the OBD port.
I have a 08 Rabbit, anyone have a link for a complete turbo kit ?
Did you watch the video?....
Would this stuff work on mk6 golf 2.5l
Yes it would
I have the same car. Lmk what u did and follow me on Instagram same as my YT name
I have many questions about wanting to turbocharge my 2.5 this spring. Ik you didn’t build this car but is there any advise I can talk to you about
For sure man. I may not have did the initial install but as of now, I've went through and removed, replaced everything. I installed the intake manifold, I remove turbo manifold, had 6 cracks welded up, ceramic coated and reinstalled. Swapped a "built" 5 speed out for an 02Q 6 speed. And did it again to replace the clutch (which is BFI stage 3) newly fabricated 3" catless downpipe, replaced all gaskets and hardware in the turbo hotside. Replaced wastegate spring with higher PSI, swapped diverter valve 3 times now. And alot more.
Can you send me the link on spa website i only see the fsi manifold , or maybe its the one ?
Www.spaturbousa.com
Type in (VW 2.5L) into their search bar.
What turbo are you running?
An old Precision, not 100% on it. T3/T04e, I believe similar to a 5557.
Does your turboing pt.1&2 include 2010 2.5L New Beetle?
Somewhat. Im not sure of ECU variations, as tuning companies can be specific as to what range of ECUs they will tune. But the engine and transmission are both are identical as other 2.5 models. One issue is they are hydraulic power steering so you cant install an aftermarket intake manifold. So power will be limited at the top end.
Front strut tower brace bar for 2010 New Beetle any idea who would sell such a thing?
Yeah, they don’t like beetles out here 😊
Whom can I look to for a front strut tower bar brace
Kindly?
I honestly dont know of any. But Tyrolsport has alot of chassis upgrade parts for our cars.
I am not sorry for bugging you man but I’m sure you’ll let me no when enough is enough but “you the man”!
anyone know of a kit for a 2013 2.5 jetta lmk would be a ton of help
Hey I’m in the process of putting a turbo on my 2.5 where did you use the turbo oil supply line from
Passenger side of the cylinder head. There's an Allen head bolt you remove and can put a 90 degree fitting there
@@SubsurfacePodcast thank you so much, your always so helpful and I look forward to more vids!
@@andrelariviere9425 no problem man. I'm trying to finish up some kinks in the Rabbit after doing an engine swap, new clutch, retuned and all new cooling system. Video coming soon enough.
Hey guys did I miss what exhaust manifold he recommended? I can’t find one anywhere
SPA is a solid turbo manifold for most needs. Roughly $400-$450 and durable. Capable of 500 hp for sure. Not sure how high it can support efficiently but I know of someone who made 500 to the wheels with one.
@@SubsurfacePodcast this is good advice it looks solid I came across one last night on eBay page claiming to be SPA came so close to buying it. I wanted to save til my next check. Just checked again and the listing ended. I’m having trouble finding it again.
@atticus finch search for SPA USA on Google. Should be able to bring up their website.
@@SubsurfacePodcast yeah I found it. It says the manifold is no longer available
@atticus finch what? I'm sure it's still being sold somewhere. Well....I remember there is someone selling a nice stainless log style manifold from BlueWater performance. It's very rare and high quality. I don't remember how much he wants but I think it's brand new. His name is Kaleb, here's his number. I asked for his number so you could text him! (972) 256-8645
Do you know if a k03 will bolt up to the spa manifold?
Not a chance. And a k03 (even a k04) is far too small for the 2.5L
I’m using an 06 Jetta 2.5L sedan 4dr auto will this work with it? It’s completely stock at 150horse and 170torque. I’m looking to get power out of this car. I’ve been looking for turbo kits everywhere for this car and can’t find anything. I’ve looked at IE stage 2 upgrade chips with there air intake and stuff but for $2k for only 47 horse didn’t seem like much for the price...
Well boosting the 2.5 will cost several thousand. Like realistically 5k on the low side.
@@SubsurfacePodcast seems like a lot but honestly it only has 118k miles on it and got it for dirt cheap. Very well taken care of. But hey spending around that much would be worth it. It’s a fun zippy car.
Look I just want my rabbit to have a little bit more HP maybe like 200+ But I don’t want the hassle of putting a turbo, can anyone lead the way
The only way to actually get over 200 hp at the wheels involves a really expensive exhaust manifold. Formerly known as the EVO header (Evolution Tuning) have been discontinued. The fabricator who made them is at Ice Engine Works now. Its a tubular equal length header with a highflow cat downpipe. The combo is somewhere around $1,200-$1,400. I had one on my Jetta before i parted it out. Sounds like a Damn F1 car lol.
I was going to buy one today 2008 Volkswagen rabbit 2.5 s I don’t care for mods as long as I can do work on it when something goes wrong. Would you recommend this car for someone who does their own car work? Is it difficult because it’s a German car? Someone told me you can’t use regular oil either is that true?
It's easy to work on. And I don't know what they mean by "can't use Normal oil". The car takes 5w40 synthetic oil. Found in any store you visit.
@@SubsurfacePodcast thanks dude I thought the oil thing was weird. I heard that Scotty Kilmer guy say that about the oil 🙄 he really hates VW lol thanks for the information dude 🙏🏽💎
@cryptoisaac I saw Scottys video on the 2.5L passat and sadly he got alot wrong. Lol
@@SubsurfacePodcast someone told me if I change the alternator and battery I would have to bring the vehicle to a dealership to relearn the computer. Is that true?
@@cryptoisaac not at all
Hey man we’re can I find the forms your in so I can join? I just bought a 09 rabbit and I want to turbo mine. But I’ll need help so that’s the best place to ask
Facebook: VW 2.5L Group. Also VW 2.5L 07K Classifieds Facebook page
Anyone know how many motor mounts the rabbit has?
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I recently got a mk6 golf 2.5, with parts available what kind of power could I expect while it still being stable?
If you're staying N/A you'll never have to worry about the engine being unstable. The weak link is the transmission but that really depends on how you drive it. If you have electric power steering, you can get an aftermarket intake manifold and a good tune from United Motorsports or Integrated Engineering. Pair that with a good intake like Neuspeed P-flo or USP cold air intake, USP downpipe, high quality fuel (Top Tier 93 or 91 octane) which ever you have in your area, decent spark plugs like NGK nickel/copper, you'll see around 190hp at the wheels. The thing about how the 2.5 makes power is that with the aftermarket intake manifold, it makes power all the way up to 7,200 RPM. Just wants to keep pulling. So at that point GTIs can keep up because they die off around 5k RPM.
@@SubsurfacePodcast Hey man, i got a 2013 mk6 2.5 with hydraulic pump steering. Have you ever heard of a way to either relocate that or convert it to electric steer? I've got no clue what im doing man, any help would be much appreciated.
@@SubsurfacePodcast my 2.5 is by far tmy favorite car I have ever owned. More fun than the m3 imo just because of its drivability . You can tell the car is like terrier it just wants to sprint around corners. It's so light the brakes last forever even how I thrash them you can mash the throttle everywhere. Just keep it watered and fed properly
@@keithsugueymccartneymelara7701 lol absolutely. This is my 2nd 2.5L and I love them both. Last one is gone unfortunately if you haven't seen my older videos. I enjoy driving it every single day. It really never gets old.
I have a 2009 rabbit 2.5 I’m a little confused because you list a lot of different parts. But if you could help me I’d greatly appreciate it. The car I have has catback exhaust, high flow air filter, aside from that its stock I’d like to get more acceleration power and more top end I’m on a budget. If you have the time I’d appreciate it, thank you.
Your best bet is a 6 speed swap from a MKV GTI, lightweight wheels, and the Integrated Engineering Ultimate Power kit. As long as you don't live in the mountains with high altitude you'll gain around 45 horsepower at the wheels and with the better gearing and lighter wheels you'll feel a major difference over where you're at.
@@SubsurfacePodcast okay and what about the turbo? I see you talked about intake manifolds, turbo, throttle body, mass air sensor. And I live in Davenport fl lol. These cars definitely seem to lose power in the top end. I mean I haven’t got on it real hard but it definitely loses power as you get through the gears and up in speed
Also thank you for your reply
@@bigswole2907 The IE ultimate power kit includes an intake manifold, tune, intake and hardware. It gains alot of top end power. Turbo is great for power but to do it all the right way youre looking at $5,000 at the very least. I live in St. Pete, FL by the way. Its good living at sea level lol
@@SubsurfacePodcast gotcha, man cars are fucking expensive. 5k is more than I paid for the car, lol. Nice. Good old st Pete. Postcard inn
Do you think 150k miles is too high to turbo 😬
thinking the same thing
Would this be possible to turbo a 2012 Passat? Or is turboing only limited to the older Jettas, Golfs and Rabbits?
Physically it is just like boosting the other models. I'm not 100% sure of the ECU is the same version, but most likely is as the powertrain is shared with only minor differences really being emissions related. Software is the only thing really in question here, so the only people to surely answer that question is United Motorsport or Integrated Engineering.
@@SubsurfacePodcast thank you
Been doing my homework florida07k
Got IE intake manifold, spa turbo manifold, bosch 550cc injectors, just need some help with the turbo whats your #1 choice, also for the intercooler and intake
Well intake is going to be custom made no matter what turbo or manifolds you choose. A Precision 5757 would actually be a great fit because not only does it fit on the SPA manifold but it makes good power and very strong torque. Mishimoto makes a good inexpensive FMIC and Vibrant has a very nice one as well. Both companies actually have a few sizes to choose from. You're going to want at least a 400hp rated intercooler. Nothing smaller and not really anything bigger
@@SubsurfacePodcast thanks man for replying so precision 5858 for the turbo, also one more question, do you know what size fits the mk5 for intercooler or it really doesnt matter as long its something rated 400hp-450hp
@@renbanhart.s 5858 works well with the 2.5L but I'm not 100% sure if it will fit between engine and firewall. She's beefy. The 5757 I mentioned is a confirmed fit and has nasty power lol. A friend of mine who is local to me is using it. Also its hard to say on size. But basically nothing thinner than 3" thick. As wide as you can for the most part. Not to the point where you have to hide the end tanks behind the bumper lol
@@SubsurfacePodcast my bad haha thought you meant the 5858 since the 5757 is no longer made by precision turbo ill try to look for one, really appreciate it man honestly, finding info about mk5 2.5 turbocharged engines is almost immposible thanks for helping the community brother
@@renbanhart.s no problem. Also my friend bought his from Boostlab. They took the 5757 and rebuilt it and powder coated it black. I think it only cost him like $750
Is it safe to turbo my 2.5l 2018 altima sr? I’m planning on getting a new intake also idk what other mods I can do to make it fast without having to put turbos
I honestly don't have any experience with the Nissan 2.5L 4 cylinder engine. Sorry bud
@@SubsurfacePodcast it’s ok 👌🏾
Hope things are well man gotta couple o questions
Whats up
Been rolling with a stage 2 tune, a basic cat back exhaust set up with magna flow products sounds decent, but want all I can get from it (the exhaust) can’t do any internal mods. Delete resonator or back muffler. Your opinion?
@@newground1341 The Best exhaust set up for performance (reasonable version) is OEM MK6 header, USP catless downpipe, no resonator, 2 oval mufflers. Oval mufflers are chambered and give back pressure. The right designs not only provide back pressure but also increase velocity at high rpm. I have a Flowmaster muffler that does just that. For sale actually. Then you could buy a 2nd one and be set.
But. The absolute BEST exhaust set up (expensive version) is equal length tubular header and downpipe combo from Ice Engine Works (made to order. Roughly $1,500 or so) then, same set up after that. No resonator, 2 chambered mufflers. You'll want a good welder to do it all. Stainless steel 2.5" piping all the way. You wont see 200 whp or more without the Ice Engine Works set up.
Man! Very cool thanks for your guidance
Gotta li’l som’em posted there
I want This engine só bad in my audi tt, Anyone here know what do I have to do to swap a 2.5 in a audi tt?? Wiring harness, ecu??
I believe audi has the best 2.5 five cyl made
@@keithsugueymccartneymelara7701 without any doubts ;)
Do you have insta? I'm in your area
How much tq can the 5 speed take? And how much hp can the 5cyl take?
The 5 speed is garbage. I blew up 2 of them when I was still N/A. They don't last long at all with boost.
As for the motor itself, they can make a little over 400 hp at the wheels on a tuned factory ECU, tuned by United Motorsport. They can make 450-500 whp tuned with standalone like ECUmasters EMUblack. That's stock internals. Forged internals, cams, upgraded valvetrain etc the 2.5 has seen 1,200 whp. World record 1/4 mile was in a 2.5 swapped MK3 Golf that ran 8.45 at 176 mph, front wheel drive with a manual gearbox.
This video has some age to it now. As of today my set up has changed. I've been retuned by UM, changed up the turbo set up etc. Currently make 400 whp and 380 wtq. At 18.5 psi
You have 2 of the same video posted
I know. The first one uploaded in bad quality and only plays on the UA-cam app. And when I open the internet browser it won't play at all so I uploaded this one to correct that.
Bla bla bla. Show the car
This shii was weak