2017 Ford Super Duty F-450 vs. Super Ike Gauntlet Towing Review: Midnight Edition
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2016
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) 2017 Ford F-450 Super Duty vs. Exclusive Ultimate Midnight Super Ike Gauntlet! Does it sound important? That's because it is! :)
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People gotta understand. 30k lbs is a lot. Most people wont ever pull that so this truck will do what we need to easy
@Kevin Mud i sold my at the time beloved Honda CRV after Uhaul told me it couldnt tow a Volkswagen Golf. Picked up an 03 F150 5.4, I love it. One day I'll step up to an F250, or F350, Heck I love the F series trucks might as well try em all till I get to the F650
You guys should get a compressor/ limiter to even up the music and talking levels, as the music comes blasting in, and you have to reach for the volume knob throughout the video, or,..better yet, ditch the music altogether!!!
Kinda makes me want one.. And I'm a Chevy guy.
I also never see myself towing 30,000 lbs, but it would certainly be nice to have the capacity.
yeah I`m A chevy guy too but I almost snapped my neck looking at this truck LOL its nice
The only manufacturer that adheres to ASTM towing specs is Nissan. Everything else is basically a banzai run.
+michael smith other manufacturers are certified through SAE j2807 standards for towing. not sure if all are on board yet but if they aren't they will be.
+michael smith ford and Ram adhere to 2807 standards now. Nissan is a joke and there new truck still won't out do the big 3. Ford implemented 2807 in 2015 and Ram did in 2014, GM still hasn't but that's because they can't tow worth crap. That's why the release of the next gen hd hasn't happened yet. Toyota implemented 2807 with the 14 tundra.
I want one too. I can see myself buying milk and bread in this truck.
One of my favourite channels. I check for new videos every day and I've watched several videos multiple times. Thanks TFLtruck!
Jesus Christ $83k zzz I cant wait to see these lifted and parked outside of St@rbucks.
so tru..more so with f250's tho
+trevor philips lol I see a lot of lifted dually here in Texas. But you're right a lot more f-250s and 2500's than the duallys
Nobody buys DRW trucks to sit outside starbucks
+fordrac1ng81 Maybe nobody you know.
Right! Sitting cleaner than a Bentley Mulsanne.
The best super duty ever, I love it
please put a camera under the truck so we can see the axle wrap and drive angles under these loads.
You'll be one of a hand full to select a underbody camera. Go put a GoPro if you wanna see axle wrap
nbookie smart guy
Been watching you guys for years. Really pleased and impressed that Ford's release of the 2017 Super Duty was in your backyard and how you guys were able to capitalize on that with your exclusive and fantastic recent videos in a way no one else could or did. Also appreciate that Ford let you do this.
test it in the middle of summer in the middle of the day
I wonder if I can tow my kayak with that...
I dunno man, that's a lot of boat lol 😆
Ford specifically stated that the new superduty cannot handle the brutal load from a kayak and that it puts it over the maximum GVWR.
am I missing something
You'll have to watch the temperature gauge lol!
I don't think it can tow a duck camper
Thanks for putting this together, I really appreciate it. The 2017 F450 in black and dually configuration looks menacing.
Great looking lineup of HD's. We'll have to wait and see about reliability and longevity.
Gave the video a thumbs up before hitting play. Awesome stuff!!
Man that truck is beautiful. I want to trade in my 08 F350 KR dually 4x4 for a 17 F350 KR dually 4x4.I guess I could cash in my 401k, sell a kidney, and work OT for the next 7 years. I might be able to afford the 83K price tag. :)
that's the platinum model though, base model would probably be almost 20 grand less
those 6.4 power strokes ain't worth a shit. my pops used to have one and the motor was constainly over heating reducing power etc and he deleted everything dpf,egr etc and 300k miles later the motor granaded and it was destroyed and on top that the 6.4 is a fuel hog from hell it got 11.4 mpg on the highway. finally convenst him to buy him self a Cummins and he is extremely happy with it.
Get rid of the 6.4l is a pos asap.
+case ih Yep ots also twin turbo set up.
I find it gross.
this is the most comprehensive truck review channel.....ever!
I love that adaptive cruise control on my '15 F150 Ecoboost. Love the truck.
I would really like to see y'all do a class 5 truck comparison on the Ike gauntlet. Would specifically like to see the RAM 5500 vs. the Ford F550.
if possible, would also like to see a comparison between the RAM 5500 with the manual transmission vs. the automatic.
You should test the chassis cab trucks. Those are the trucks that people really work hard.
Great video guys congrats on first 2017 super duty real world. Truck looks amazing pulling that load.
Looking forward to seeing the new duramax as well. Great review guys. Bring some of that cool air to Texas please.
Just ordered ours, 2017 F350 Lariat DRW in Caribou. Traded in my 2011, Black F350 Lariat SRW.
The Turbo has to glow after this😄
Love watching these dually pull
I really enjoy these vids.
$83k- now 5 years later $30k very nice!
Jorge Garcia where'd y
Yeah you are not familiar with the truck market used f450 platinum are still going over 60k.
F-250 vs Silverado 2500 vs RAM 2500 V8's up in super Ike Gauntlet!! PLEASE!!
I test drove the 2017 f250 6.7 4x4 the other day, WOW, best vehicle i have driven ever,
We also test drove the yukon, yukon denali, navigator, explorer.
Waiting for post xmas savings to pull the trigger.
Great video guys👍
Eighty. Three. Thousand. Dollars.
Expensive for those who don't run businesses, cheap for those who do. Not many will spec it out as a platinum model, though
A pickup truck that expensive is an irresponsible purchase regardless of what it's being used for. Where I live, governments don't even spend that much on large trucks for snow removal and highway maintenance.
+OFFRD if your local gov wanted a HD truck they probably wouldn't go all the way up to a platinum though. That probably adds 30k to the price tag.
+OFFRD that's because you live in a country with a lower. cost of living. if you were using these for clearing roads they wouldn't be loaded platinum models costing 83k. they would just be work trucks and much cheaper.
+OFFRD Irresponsible? Give me break. People make money and spend on what they like, not necessarily what they need.
no the 2015 powerstroke went faster than the ram and silverado. the only thing the ram won was the fuel economy. the f350 holds the record.
Love my 16
It's so beautiful! We've got a 2008 and finally in the last few months we tuned it and put a full exhaust. The thing hauls ass now, it's a 450 with the 4.55 gears so even at 80mph the truck will accelerate so hard, harder than most sports car.
Yeah I have a 2008 as well with 4.30 gears and my goodness even with 6 35 inch tires the thing moves like it's got nothing behind it
it looks so nice with this headlights
Would love to see a review on the 6.2 gas.
And the v10
I doubt we'll see a review of the V-10 on this channel. The V-10 is Chassis cab only, meaning that it's only going to be used in the commercial Super Dutys.
They dropped the V10 years ago. The 6.2 is a V8.
Daniel Bell Not completely dropped. It's still used as a mid range engine in the Chassis cab trucks. Anything class 3 and under though get's either the 6.2L or 6.7L as of right now.
Here's your review. Don't bother looking in to it. Ford finally got their diesels sorted out.
At this point just get a Mac truck
Or a used Peterbilt.
seriously
+Donald Trump I want to use the truck to build a wall
trump 2016!
Gas is like 50% lower in the Mack than the Super Duty.
Great video guys! I'm surprised that Ford allowed you to do an Ike Gauntlet review with their new truck. Most impressive is the cruise control that will apply the brakes to maintain set speed. Being able to control your speed going down the mountain is more important than being the fastest to the top. Something that is easily forgotten by amateur drivers.
That truck lights look awesome
So if you have been testing 450s, when will you test 4500s from GM and Ram? I do not see testing a 450 the same as the 350 or 3500s.
Shawn Shenton they dont have them in pickup and you dont really see them around
A 4500 is a kodiak from GM it wouldn’t be far for Ford or Ram
30,000 lb that's cute. Not many people will buy this for $80k if there not gonna use it for heavy freight, for that money you can get slightly used semi with 550 hp and 1850 ft lb . With motor that can get to million miles :)
You can't take your family to church in your semi on sunday. That's the difference.
Good gravy, I'd hate to daily drive a F450...and that's from a guy who cheerfully DD's an F150
yourfast07 your dumb 😊
fordrac1ng81 - I hope a semi driver sees this and says "Challenge Accepted."
wasup *you're
Crazy how most Gas trucks get better times than the diesels..
Also I wish they would use the Same trailer and weight on every single truck so we can compare apples 2 apples
But still enjoy all these videos.
Thanks TFL
Beautiful truck for sure
I believe the ram went up the Ike gauntlet with more weight and a faster time if I'm not mistaken, feel free to correct me.
Um no lol. the ram on the ike was hauling 21k pounds. not 30. heck the old superduty beat that rams time with 21k pounds. this one would cream that time with 21k pounds. btw it took the ram 9:58 with 21k pounds.
Yeah it can tow almost 30k but they tested it with 21k
+Gavin Steiling We tested the Ram HD with 21,400lbs trailer last year. We hope to get the 30,000 lbs run soon.
i wonder how long they would last if they towed that weight on a daily basis, my guess is they would need a new tranny in no time or a new engine
+Edward Hall lame
I remember when my dad bought a new f350 diesel in 1990 for 20,000$. Its amazing that these trucks now cost 80+ thousand. Granted the old 7.3 would have been crushed with 30k pounds. Unbelievable power and tech is these things. Price is just insane though. Will not bring 30k in five years.
You ready to eat your words on that 30k remark?
You have great vids and all the stats are fantastic. Can you give us the tire pressure you are running along with it?
Love my 2019 F-350 DRW!
I'm sorry, but $83,000 for a work truck is insane. That's roughly $1450 a month with a 60 month loan at 3%. How much the insurance is on a $83,000 truck?
What new truck do YOU know of that tows 15 tons cheaper?
+bcubed72 a 08 Volvo semi goes for about 30.
It's not just a work truck, it's also a space ship, it's a platinum model, they come with features luxury sedans have.
Sorensenator86 good point , call me poor but i just dont see my self ever paying 1,600 dollars a mouth for a 6 yr loan on the vehicle. I just cant see the way to justify that. My house payment is just under that at 1,850 a mouth. There is no way i can justify this as a vehicle i need. I need something to hall my jeep and quads up and down I-5 Ashland summit in the rain snow or shine. And i think that this truck is for very few people.
Ray Maready I agree with you, if you can afford a truck this expensive then you should probably be buying it outright, or at least put down a hefty down payment. This truck IMO is for someone who makes over 250 K a year. There are however in places like Fort McMurray Alberta at the Oil sands where project managers and superintendents make this kind of coin, like over 100 dollars an hour.
I wanna see the 2017 Ford F-150 with its new 10 speed
Im sure it will come but probably not for a few more years, it is barely going into production this year and we still dont know what problems it might have yet. Plus the massive torque of the superduty would need much beefier components and that transmission is small and compact. Plus you would probably run into the truck downshifting too much and what not
I thought the 10 speed was only coming to the 2017 raptor? That's awesome if they're giving it to the regular f-150 too
+Kaipo Fitisemanu yeah it's awesome!
+Viktor Step I dont think they will it just wasnt built for a heavy duty truck, unless they can fit heavy duty component's in it, i just feel like 10 speed is too many gears for towing
+Kenneth Barbee idk anymore lol, half the year I hear they will now they kinda stopped talking about it. But 10 speed would be good for towing, semi trucks can have 18 gears.
Those headlights look really cool
Honestly what a beautiful truck!
Also, around the 10:36 mark it appears that the coolant temp is getting into dangerous territory. Shouldn't the truck be able to handle exactly this scenario? I wonder how Ford does their testing... There really needs to be a universal standard.
Coolant tempt is past half way (Which is where it is during normal driving), but its certainly not pegged out. The temp being in that range is fine, why would you think being slightly warm is bad? Especially considering this is definitely a worse case scenario.
Heat kills these trucks
I don't see where your looking, I looked and didn't see anything.
+William Dixon look again it's there but for a moment. Seconds later when the camera goes back its at normal
I’ve found heading through the mountains hauling equipment with my f550 the temp would run around 230f uphill in 90f weather. The fan would lock on and almost double its speed and the engine coolant temp would drop 20f in about 30 seconds... I figure that a bit of fluctuation is normal as long as the cooling system reacts and does it’s job. I think the people at ford did a fine job, especially with the 2nd gen 6.7
It's nice towing at night with the cooler temps. Love to see this truck tow 30,000 lbs. up mountain roads at slower speeds in CO when its 80+ degrees out. No doubt this truck will get too hot! My F-350 PowerStroke gets hot towing 16,000 lbs. Love these yuppies that only test heavy towing on highway Roads.
What year f350 do you have? I haven’t had any issues with 16000 lbs
Good looking rig!
Hello TFL dudes!! Love your channel, big fan.Just wondering if you'll be doing more testing of the new Ram 1500's.... off road, deep snow, etc. You've only tested the Power Wagon and Rebel.... would be nice to see the new 2017 SLT be put through the paces as this is the most common daily driver... and I have one! Lol. Although mine has 3.21 gears so towing is lower.Anyways, food for thought.Thanks! Keep up the great work. Will be buying a copy of 'Truck Nuts' for sure.Joe
my 97 f350 can easily do this. certainly not at the same speed but none the less I haven't been impressed yet. I'll keep my 7.3
i bought a semi volvo truck for 26k and it can stop 70,000 pounds.. why would anyone pay that much for a truck..
because they have tiny dicks and smaller brains.
The Deprey's What most people don't realize is, they can't just load this truck with a 30k trailer without a class A CDL. Most of these vids are irresponsible for not mentioning that fact. A lot of people believe the notion of " Its a pickup, why would they sell it at that load rating if I need a CDL." I would venture a guess that at least half the salesman that you ask that question to wouldn't know or wouldn't tell you so they can make their sales commission. New truck prices have become stupid crazy.
reneeandchrisforever you only need a cdl if you're pulling over 50k or if the load you're pulling is commercial. So if you're pulling 30k of your own stuff no cdl required
The Deprey's because you can't fit a semi truck in a garage.
wasup get a real shop
You guys are awesome. God Bless.
I can't wait to buy one of these. Will be an XL OR XLT
This is Ford always been better than any other truck
The ford has ceramic bearings in the turbo.
+William Dixon they changed that on 2015+
Not as bad as a dirty Ram
wait So I'm not against any particular truck, I like them all, but didn't this truck do bad in this video?
I think it did great if you think of the weight It's carrying. That's a 11% grade which means it's really steep. I'm not a Ford man but the truck did good. There is another video comparing the 450 Ford to the 350 Dodge,(2016 models) in that video the Dodge had to let off the gas to LET the Ford win. Ford commercial, no way was they going to let a Dodge win. Dodge would be my pick over the big three.
That truck already has 30K+ miles on it?!
yeah it hit 32k when they were near the tunnel
It's a Ford test truck. They put a lot of miles on them in a short time.
yeah If I am right the vehicles they test at ford are phased out and sent to people like TFL to run their own tests and such
I think that's a zero but it looks like a three because it's distorted by the trim around the tachometer. It looks to me like it reads 18xx or 19xx miles. Can't really tell because the bloom from the screen.
Will you be doing similar tests on video with the F-350 and F-250? Because this was great!
Great review, Love this truck. This is off topic with the whole towing stuff but with that fancy schmancy Stereo and Nav system. Does Ford make a kit so a guy can put a small sub like an 8 inch sub and amp in the truck? I'm looking into one of these in the near future and i must have a little bass when listening to some George Strait. ;) or even the 2016 models
just waiting for Keyboard Commando to make his/her tasteless comments. Also, does anyone else think the redline on this truck seem low?
No because diesel.
+Patrick Connolly Wasn't sure. Thanks. I've always wanted a truck, but the lack of a budget and need for one has kept me from it.
It's actually decently high for a diesel.
redline is 3700 for PS, 3200 for cummins. power dropoff is so steep on diesels there is no point running them above peak hp rpm
www.powerstrokehub.com/6.7-power-stroke.html
That's high for a diesel u fucking idiot.
Powerstroke>Cummins>Durashit
Just did the super Ike in my Volvo semi. 79220lbs. 16:32 minutes 1.9MPG
Will you eventually do a towing test with the 2017 Ford with the gas motor?
Can see why you did it at night. Probably get shot going that slow.
Yes, only downhill. I know it might not be overloaded by manufactures ratings. In this case just shows you that tow wars in affect.
thats why you stay in the right lane when you're towing a load like this. Cars and unloaded trucks can pass. It's not a problem.
So the 2017 f450 has just about the same towing capacity of the 2016 ram 3500? And the Cummins has the reliability of a semi truck/tractor.
So why doesn't ford do something to make it stand out, the ram will probably have all of that electronic stuff in their 2017 so the f450 needs to step their game up
Don't hate I'm stating what I'm getting from these guys
No. f450 hauls 32,500 pounds. the f350 hauls 32,000 pounds. the ram 3500 hauls 31,200 pounds.
Dodge tends to be very generous with their tow ratings. Get under each of them and look at the brakes, frame and suspension and tell me which you feel would more comfortably tow 32K.
you have it twisted it's the other way around hahaha
Semi like reliability? No...
+Wilson Productions Thats not true sorry
Y'all need to make videos on the new F-650/750 trucks!!
i still like the silverado better
Ahhhhhhh but this is one bad Ford but you pay for it.
+William Dixon wut?
Silverado are nice but this is ONE BAD Ford but you'll pay for it *IF* you buy one.
William Dixon do you mean bad as in bad or bad as in bad ass
Marthalamule Mcleish bad ass. he doesnt know what trucks are good.
And ford forgot to say you need a class B CDl to pull 30,000. Another ford mess up.
+caleb simth Mr Truck has a CDL. Sorry that we forgot to mention it.
Or a Class A CDL in NC to pull a trailer with a gvw of 10000 lbs or higher. You can forget your class b. I have a 1/2 ton and need a class A to pull my 20' car hauler.
You mean a Class A.
How is that Fords fault? That is up to the driver of the vehicle to understand the laws of the road he or she is driving on.
+thatdamguy00 You are absolutely correct.
I am going to be getting this truck except on the king ranch edition
damn that's bad ass , I just see more and more shit to go wrong on these newer trucks with all the fancy options. Oh and let's not forget some of these price tags !!
Again i liked it till Andre came on PLEASE STOP LETTING HIM DO THESE REVIEWS!!!
what the hell is wrong with Andre
I love this new 6.7 but I'm getting one in a new f250 to haul my fifth wheel . This f450 is what you pull a 43ft fifth wheel with. Mine is just 30ft.
Awesome truck
TFL rocks !!!
that truck is so beautiful!
Can't wait to get my new f-350
Would this truck make a good (5) car hauler? I do union construction during the summer months but need a new daily driver and to haul cars during the winter months. I could probably stretch the budget to a Freight liner M2....
can you please do more downhill testing with these trucks? Thanks.
Does the f450 have smart tow(rear tow steering via knob like in the f150s)?
I have the 08' 6.4 and have pulled my gravel trailer @ 38,000 pounds Combined. With Chipped Delete package.
As RAM owner since 1991 with 4 diesel trucks over the years, I'm somewhat biased, but my first car was also a 1969 Mustang Mach 1 and I'm still a Ford racing fan. The 2017 is really a step up for Ford. I would say the new F-450 in this video seems a bit louder in the cabin than previously tested models, without or with the cooling fan running (the slightly higher noise level of RAM has been commented on in numerous reviews and I would generally agree). All said; it's a great truck. I still don't think the overall reliability of the Ford motor is equal to the RAM, but Ford's transmission is better, and it has a metric-shit-ton of new features. Good result for Ford. I do still have a problem comparing an F-450 to a RAM 3500 however.
Does the F450 your testing come with the tire pressure monitoring option.
So what if you’re towing in inclement weather? You don’t have air brakes, how do you go downhill then? Is the traction control activated with the adaptive downhill cruise control? Is there a hand valve to stop the trailer?
So basically the reason to own an F-450 over the F-350 is those cool Semi-truck looking wheels and tires. I'm sold! Start a hauling company and call it "Lil-Semi".
Its here boyz!!!
I am picking up a 2020 F450 Platinum this weekend. I would like to see the difference in time between the 2017 and 2020 F450 pulling the same weight. Quick question I am purchasing the truck with the thoughts of upgrading to a fifth at some point. My current trailer is a pull behind that is around 10k loaded. Do I still need to use my load leveling bars? I can't wait to see the difference because I am coming from a lifted 2006 f250.
Gorgeous truck... so strong.
My thing, towing at night, does that give a real world comparison, time wise? ya'll always time the way the trucks go up the hill, but when doing it at night versus day you miss a key element factor, real world traffic, but I do also get that just as much towing happens at night. Great review
+Darius Kila We always try to avoid traffic. If our run is affected by traffic we either redo the run or state the difference.
At night cooler temp's more condensed air means more power the engine can make.
do thy make wheel simulators like the ones on this F 450?
curious what the egt's are. along with trans Temp and oil Temp
Scene One today in action got damn that's a whole lot of truck
What is the suggested tire psi for an F-450 when not towing?
I have looking for your review of the 2017, so thanks.!!! But $83000.. Holy crap, I'm going to need $10000 in rebates.
They were using the night vision camera at 9:54 . Does anyone else see that light in the engine bay? Is that turbo glowing?
You think it’ll get me to and from work reliably?
That's a beautiful truck I have got to get one. I only have 60 payments left on my ram 2500 which I love!! So I'm gonna have to have both😜
Does anyone know when the new Duramax will be out, I'm hearing approx. numbers that are very close supposedly. 430/865?
Man , pretty impressive though i have done a lot or research , never the less , I love the capability of the F-450 Superduty test with 30,000 LBS. with pure muscle this big sucka can get down with a whole lot of torque in 4th gear awsome
what kind of egt's are you getting hauling open throttle in a 7% grade with 30k load?