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Can't wait to finance this truck for 15 years and daily drive it to work and back 😂 *Edit* for all the people I triggered, I was just being sarcastic with my comment
15 years? for a $62,000 truck? It's a 950 a month note for 72 months if you put zero money down. If the price of this truck puts you off you don't need it. This is for guys running hotshot, or moving job site equipment. In that situation it's making you money
that's because most people are thinking of old conventional trans fluid which will start to foam and break down at those temps but synthetic fluid used now days are good for way more than that. But if you tow heavy like that my Ford owners manual says to change at least every 30k miles or when needed.
@@WhoThisGuy515the fluid changed but transmission basically work the same just more gears I put the biggest trans cooler in my truck when I bought it new has 220k miles on it and original Trans truck is used for construction pulling heavy trailers Gm says 200-210 is normal operating temp my Trans has never got past 200 even towing heavy on a 98 degree day without a trailer my Temps are 150 or so if I never installed that cooler I can almost bet the Trans would of been cooked by now
It's studied, designed and made to last for the length of the warranty and a day. Imagine baking the TCM, O-Rings, fibers and all else that's not made out of steel on a 257°F sauce for 1000's of miles while pulling a heavy load day-in, day-out. Yeah, NO, not good, I don't care who says otherwise, engineer or not.
A Class 8 semi grossing 80,000 lbs has a 20,000-pound truck and 60,000-pound trailer. So the trailer is 3 times the weight of the truck. Towing a 40,000-pound trailer with an 8000-pound F450 has a 5:1 trailer to truck weight ratio. I'd get a bigger truck to handle that much weight to avoid being pushed all over the road by the trailer. Out in the real world there is more to towing than just weight. There is also trailer size. The demonstrator trailer that Ford had was weighted with dense material, allowing the frontal area of the trailer to be smaller than the truck. Not everybody hauls steel. If you're towing something like an intermodal shipping container that has multiple times the frontal area of the truck the powertrain will be working hard all the time, even on flat ground. And in crosswinds the trailer will push the back of the truck around badly.
This truck does seem light compared to what it's towing. In the real word, towing that much weight will take a long time to stop, even at low speeds or going down hill/mountains.
I could see this being a good aggregates hauler, I don’t even think they make a 15 ton dump trailer but if you could get one you basically have an average tandem dump truck load out of a pickup truck. Save quite a bit on taxes and not to mention you’d have way better maneuverability.
The real world. Of the proving ground. With a single cab stripper 2wd F450. Of which they will sell 2. Interesting that on that short grade on what looks like a cool day the cooling fans had to come on. That doesn’t bode well for being fully loaded up a long grade on a hot day. Especially if you throw in some altitude.
That drivetrain will never last a 100 k doing that work at those rpms without sinking some serious repair money into it. But this is the world we live in nowadays. On the other hand anyone needing to haul 40 k on a regular basis should not be looking at that size truck. I guess time will tell
Three things. First: in the United States any combination grossing more than 13 tons (26,000) requires a CDL. Getting caught without the appropriate license, plates, and permits is serious fines and in some states could be vehicle confiscation or worse. Second: Ford as a manufacturer has stated that any continuous temperature reading of the transmission fluid over 240* is causing significant wear to the transmission, anything over 250 is permanent fluid breakdown along with the seals and internal frictions. Third: If you are thinking of buying a truck to get anywhere close to this weight, at current market most medium duty will be cheaper to operate and easier to repair.
The CDL requirement part is false. It all depends on how the vehicle is being used and if the operator it being paid in any way related to the use of the vehicle. Also, many (most?) states have exemptions for RV's. In my state, I could absolutely drive that combination for personal use without a CDL.
@@LayzeeGiant Exactly. I’ve read so many stories and watched so many videos of owners angry that their [insert brand name here] pickup had major issues at 50,000 miles or sooner after they’ve beat it like a mule.
Definitely. Not necessarily a Freight-shaker, but if you are maxing out your truck on a regular basis, you should be moving to a bigger truck, unless you want to wreck it.
They've underestimated this truck's capabilities because I was able to tow Puerto Rico closer to the United states just yesterday. I don't have any numbers to provide, but just accomplishing that alone is impressive.
medium duty? Medium duty trucks can’t tow this much. Too tow this much you need a true dump truck. medium duty trucks IE an F650 or a Chevy 6500 version have high capacity in the bed not towing.
@@remingtonwells7286 I know lol. An M2 106 international with a custom fit fith wheel should do the job. Expensive, but worth it if I'm towing that amount of weight on a regular.
Anyone else think 40K is too much for the consumer? I foresee some people getting in way over their head with this. Luckily very few will ever approach towing 40K. What will be sweet is that high output motor in an F250 or 350 towing a big 5th wheel travel trailer like it is nothing. Consumers will appreciate that.
Anything over 26,000lbs GVWR requires a CDL. But most of these companies and reviewers fail to mention that. They just want the wow factor of one upping each other.
LazyGiant that largely isn't true. Only about 10 states require you to have a specific license to drive over 26000 if you are a private citizen. Meaning some person could absolutely load up a 40k trailer and drive it down the road with zero experience.
The FMCSA would like a word with you. Besides VERY specific exemptions for things like farmers, RVs, snow removal, emergency or military personnel, there is literally no state that is totally cool with a regular, non-exempt driver loading up a trailer with 20 tons and hauling it down the highway.
It's the same ratio as a tractor trailer. A semi by itself is around 16k lbs. A dry van trailer is 20-24k lbs and then the load can max out at around 47-48k lbs. A 16k lbs truck pulls around 76k lbs everyday.
I ran 600,000km of daily towing a 50 foot deck trailer hauling upto 24,000LB loads. Load/Trailer combined being 35,000LBS. I did this with my 2012 F550 with its 6.7 and it handled it amazingly, and yes i was legal weights as i regularly ran the scales. Only major repairs that truck ever needed was 1 rear end at 500,000km, a water pump, an alternator, and a couple of turbos(the stock ones were very weak). Overall i think ford makes a very good work truck and that 6.7 is a great engine all around.
They are 19.5” commercial truck rims, that’s the only way 450’s come going back decades now. 350 dually’s have the standard 16-17” maybe 18” rims depending on year.
That 6.7 is an absolute beast we have them in all of our tow trucks and even towing two big ol lifted trucks at the same time you can't even tell they're there just pure power quick off the line and definitely incredible stopping power Love them. I keep it to the rug all day everyday it don't care
The extra wait of the front axel would take away the ability of the truck to haul 40,000 lbs. That’s why they showed the model they did. Completely stripped down hauler. My bet is even getting a better interior would take away from that number.
@@stchman Actually I've been looking at the F450 regular cab pickup in XLT trim and 4X4 for about a year now. Only found one to drive and it was used. If everything works out right going to try and order a 2024. Turning radius is fantastic. And the ride was pretty good. For some reason it was riding on Bilstien 8100 shocks which probably helped.
Not sure why anyone would tow that much with a small truck. Nice to have that kind of power, but control of the load would be difficult over a long haul, especially in a NON-Controlled environment. Appreciate the video.
Wow! I still wonder if a person would be better going up to a non CDL medium-sized truck. I'd love to see how the conventional setups did....but, all in all, pretty incredible numbers on the 450.
I could see a truck like this hauling aggregates, a 15 ton load is a class 8 tandem dump truck load, but you could match that out of this lil guy. Getting in and out of jobsites would be easier not to mention you could prolly fly by under the radar without a CDL.
@@jayrichards3672anything over 26,001 lbs combination unless the trailer weighs less than 10,001 pounds and the power unit doesn’t exceed 26,001 lbs period***
Another prime example of, just because you can doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Nothing against the guys at TFL. Except for leaving out any real world breaking tests, the video seemed to offer a fair assessment of the new drive train.
"Real world" braking tests would have been virtually meaningless since the trailer's tires, brakes, and weight distribution would have affected the results way more than the truck itself. Whatever results they got with that combination wouldn't apply to anything else. The only way to make the braking test represent the truck's capabilities rather than the combination as a whole would be to disable the trailer's brakes and see how well the truck could stop the load by itself, which is also a valid test since trailer brakes can fail, therefore the truck should be able to stop the entire combination by itself within 80 feet at 20 MPH while maintaining stability and staying within its lane as per SAE J2807 towing capacity testing standards.
@@averyalexander2303 Doesn't that statement actual re-enforce my point? The manufactures will never be able to outpace physics. Most truck owners experience adverse driving conditions on a regular basis. As someone who drives a 2013 F350 4dr, dually pulling a 20k lb 5th wheel, I can attest most testing standards for towing don't prevent most accidents. It is impossible. From equipment failure, bad drivers to road condition create too many variables.
the truck has fifth wheel ball type hoop up. the weight is distributed to probably half on the truck so there would be no problem for traction or stopping.
@@scz718645it’s 100% making it Ford always done better than fiat ram and gm up the Ike been the quickest every single time since 2013 when they started doing the tests
It's just showcasing it's capabilities. Nobody will be actually be towing that much weight on a truck like that. But in case you were wondering, it can do it.
@@oscara.9265 More likely they will exceed the limit if they think they can get away with it. That’s been the pattern ever since heavy duty pickups have been around!
Hopefully everyone took notice. That regular cab, 2WD, base model is the one with this towing capacity, now the crew cab 4WD lariat you really want...:)
There needs to be more stricter regulations on these trucks. Just anybody can jump in this tinny truck and pull 40,000 pounds down the interstate with no experience. If u want to pull that much weight get a bigger heavier truck please. God help everybody and their family’s trying to get home in their cars.
My biggest complaint is they build those diesels in MEXICO😡 and five minutes away from the proving grounds they closed an excellent Ford V8 facility and killed more American jobs. I call NONSENSE and CORPORATE GREED.
Yeah but a hybrid with a decent sized battery/motors etc. will weigh significantly more thus affecting the GVWR;. Probably end up losing several thousand pounds of towing.
Just think about it, a semi truck normally tows 80k+ pounds down the American roads, subtract that by 40k and you get the Ford's new towing ability! Fcking amazing if I say so myself, being able to tow half of what a semi truck can tow for a pickup truck, that's hella impressive!
I remember back in1985 working at Alamo Steel company all our F250 and F350 were gasoline engine 300 in line six cylinder pulling gooseneck trailer load with steel rebars up to 20.000 to 25.000 lbs and those 300 in line six cylinder with a 4 speed standard transmission would pulll great all that weight they use more gas back then gasoline was cheaper
@@angelgjr1999 BULLCHIT. Dodge pushing that Cummins is nice but Ford has a 7.3 *gas engine that will dam near step on that Cummins, so comparing it to Ford diesel engine is not even a comparison. Ford makes better trucks then Dodge, I will go with a Chevy before I buy a cheap a&& Dodge
@@angelgjr1999 you right about cheap 🤣🤣, but what I'm saying is Cummins is behind Ford engine. It use to be the best pickup truck diesel but Ford has the best now.
@@jghall00If you don’t use the truck for commercial use you don’t need a CDL. I see people with F-450 and 550 pulling campers all the time and they don’t need a CDL.
Getting 40k moving is one thing getting it stopped is a whole different game, no one mentioned the braking, they mentioned exhaust brake but that is not the primary braking
Good thing you brought this up, it seems the Ford engineers totally overlooked the brakes. I'm surprised they were able to get it certified at that weight.
@@skrsys You do realize that the F-450/F-550 and F-600 share the same brakes? Ford engineers didn't overlook anything! The F-450 to F-600 also share the same wheels. The thing that separates the F-450 from the F-600 is the rear end and the number of springs.
@@dundonrl You failed to detect my sarcasm on the fact somehow the Ford engineers didn't consider the brakes and got the truck certified at that weight.
they did indirectly by talking about the exhaust brake capability and I'm reasonably sure, part of the J2807(?) Davis Dam test is stopping without the aid of the trailer brakes.
Thanks, Andre! ...very impressive! ...was hoping you'd stop on the steep grade, accelerate and also stop going down the steep grade to see about braking performance! ...a fast/sudden stop on level ground would also be good to see. I have a '99 F-550 7.3 dump truck and part of weekly driving is having to stop harder & sooner than expected because of cars jumping ahead of me (into the large cushion that I like to have) and the braking/turning. Of course, this happens when I am empty at 11,800lbs AND when I am fully loaded with stone and equipment and trailer at 22-32,000lbs.
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite channel on YT. It was your video review on the F-150 Powerboost that sold me on getting one. All of the information on Ford engineering in these videos really sparks my interests.
It's great that it CAN tow 40,000 lbs. Most people already realize that if you regularly tow at max load, then you need a bigger truck. In this case you'd need a semi-truck. What it does do is reassure that it could handle 10,000 lbs less with ease, about anywhere. I don't like the weight ratio between the truck and maxed trailer load. I don't think it's a good idea to attempt the Ike Gauntlet at 40,000 lbs with that truck.
Ram has been @ around 37,000 on their 3500 series pickup trucks for several years. For some reason they haven't really chased towing #'s on their 4500/5500 series trucks. GM claims 36,000 on the latest model year 3500 series pickups.
Stopping is more important than what you can pull. No way this truck can stop 40000lbs safely.... repeatedly. That amount of weight would toss that truck around like it was nothing
It has to meet some distance or xx% higher vs empty, I don't know the formulas. But they are using SAE testing when they set the tow ratings, so I would think it has to be able to do it. You could look up what goes into the J2807(?) testing, I know there's a lot to it, just don't remember all of the details.
Ok so they are telling the average consumer, if you buy our plane Jane 2wd f450 you can tow 40k. First of all, over 26001 pounds you need a cdl license. 2nd, no average consumer should try this. Truck is way to light for that much weight. 3rd thing, it's a Ford. I believe they are currently in bankruptcy because of warranty repairs. They are considering splitting into different divisions to stay afloat. This is laughable, let's build a truck with 500 horsepower 1100ft lb of torque? Why? To have more horsepower than ram or gm? Put more effort into quality, build a truck people can actually afford to buy. All new trucks from Ford, ram and gm are way to expensive. $80k to $100+ for a pickup truck is ridiculous!
Of course it can tow 40k lbs!! Legally, did it one time with a 2017 F-350 6.7 dually 4:10 rear end with a 38 ft.11k lb trailer with 26k lbs on the deck and the truck did that load up and down mountainous highways with relative ease on a 3 hour drive. Ford makes the most capable trucks in the business and they should considering the money they spend on their truck division and the amount of profit they make from it.
That is a hell of a lot of weight. It's enough that one might be better off looking at a medium duty F650-750 truck though. I can see sooner or later in these tow weight wars between the truck makers that someone makes a factory standard three axle 1 ton or 1 1/4 ton truck just so you have another axle worth of brakes and contact patch.
@@foreshee10 The F650 and F750 are rated differently and at different rpms. A 650 or 750 may not be faster with the same weight as the 450 but it will handle it better. Have a trailer brake overheat or failure and good luck stopping it with that 450.
I always like a stought pulling FORD truck. Ford makes the best trucks on the road. You won't ever pull 40,000 lbs ever unless you sell batterys and a single axle road tractor will do that and avoid the finace charge of this 100 thousand dollar truck.
@@wj2791 It comes in cheaper trims. Just because most people can't afford it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. If it's for a business use it's a tax deduction anyway. If it's for personal use then you make bank and probably have nice toys.
After waiting for F450 Limited since last Oct, 28th, I made the decision to pick up 2023 Ram 3500 DRW HO 6.7 Cummins , 4.,1 Gear Night Edition. I have lot less drama.. It comes with Auto Rear leveling and TPMS. Tire is wide enough to drive as is. It rides more smooth and quiter.. I love Ford, but Ram impressed me as well. Full body PPF and Nano ceramic installed.. Nothing more needs to be done to the truck. I can drive it as is.
@@patch6999 that seems a bit vague. One man’s pain is another man’s pleasure. I was under the impression that cops just look at GVWR and if your trailer and truck combined exceed the magic number…here’s your ticket
@@savannahrei8674 have a CDL and the cops don’t look at the GVWR of the truck and trailer. If you use it to make money then you need a CDL. Pulling a oversized camper, boat, etc. A CDL in not required. If you see a semi pulling a camper and it says not for hire it does not need a CDL.
I have a 2021 f-450 licensed at 40k. I pull all over the US. Different weights but a couple stand out. 1 load 3 10ft tall 17k lbs total 38k lbs arched steel panels for huge holding tanks. denver Colorado to Western Utah hwy 70 used for the trip. 2nd over weight load 2 armored with 50 cal turrets. Load weight 22k lbs total 43k lbs. Southern Illinois to Northern Michigan. 3rd oversized load fuel tank for fuel stations. 19,500 lbs for a total weight of 40,500 lbs. North Dakota to glacier national forest Montana. This 2021 f-450 6.7L holds its own flatland or mountains!
That is an amazing truck. That compression ignition engine has more torque than any other that Ford used in any of their vehicles. There's no way on this planet that the competition will win against it. How could the knowing that the torque is at twelve hundred foot pounds? This torque is possible because of that CGI block. Ford said it was the first used in the North America market. Yes, that's absolutely incredible. What's CGI? Compacted Graphite Iron. How could those two metals exist together? Apparently, quite well. I hope the four of you are having an excellent day. It's great seeing my favorite auto company doing so well. B'bye
Didn't Ram start to offer way back in 2019 a puny 6 cylinder Cummins diesel that has a new revolutionary CGI block and now offers a mere 1075 foot pounds? It won't be king for long.
Compacted Graphite Iron is not so revolutionary as it is evolutionary. It has been under development in the heavy duty diesel market for about 30 years and was used by Navistar in their Maxx Force engines long ago. Cummins introduced CGI in the Dodge 6.7L engine in 2019. In a noteworthy gasoline application, GM has used CGI in their R07 NASCAR race blocks since 2007. Cast Iron is a group of iron-carbon alloys that are defined by the form that the graphite takes in the microstructure. Over 2% carbon content, free graphite forms in the iron matrix, and depending on certain alloying elements and how the material is handled during casting, different forms of graphite are produced. Grey Iron has flake graphite and has standard ASTM specifications that have tensile strengths in the range of 30-40000 psi. Most heavy duty diesels use gray iron blocks at 35000 psi tensile strength. Ductile (also known as nodular) iron has graphite spheres and is produced in tensile strengths ranging from 60-100,000 psi. Compacted graphite iron has graphite formations that look like corkscrew worms and typically is produced in tensile strength of 65,000 psi.
It certainly doesn't hurt. Answer me this question. Why do European tractor trailer companies use it in their engines in addition to Ford over here in North America? For an asides, you didn't need to type carbon twice. Once would be a sufficient amount.
My two cents this test is controlled environment. Real world towing is not that simple you need more than just power to properly and safetly pulling that much weight most of coments are correct go to a biger truck
@@bielmelichartes2167 with all due respect, the GMC Hummer EV is no match for anything that a normal diesel truck can do in towing in the real world. Modeling this performance through simulation has proven this point as soon as they are in real situations. Yes the Hummer can accelerate faster, and the range gets cut dramatically on every run. I agree that range is a big issue, and it gets worse with loads. Also, there is no heavy duty EV truck yet. This government we have is forcing auto manufacturers to comply with a idealistic at best EV-only policy rather than the truth. So expect every truck manufacturer to have one soon as they go along with the program. I’m for EV as an option for people, but do not pretend this is the solution for energy in the future.
@@bielmelichartes2167 if it had a big enough battery to have good range for this job you'd be paying for a tank of diesel in hydro unless you had a 2-300amp panel for overnight charging. I have complete faith in the automotive industry to get there but it's definitely not going to be cheap at the charger and the sticker
The first question that comes to mind about the HO engine is longevity, actually, the manufacturers have thrown reliability out the window in their engine design. The bigger the number the shorter the life.
Hi Andrey, can you please ask if you can convert your High Output to Waterless Coolant and would that void the warranty or damage the engine? Please and Thank You 🙏
I LOVE the aluminum Alcoa style wheels they went with!!! Totally gets brownie points from me for that!! None of that simulated CRAP duallys normally come with.. this is REAL Solid wheels.
Just because we can, doesn't mean we should. I think it's cool that a truck can tow half that of a semi. But do I want to own or drive one? Or even meet it on the road? No. Especially not on a snowy or rainy day. There's no way it's as safe as with a semi.
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how ironic you have this advertisement for this......there will be some that need it towing 20T with an 8,000 aluminum truck.
Where is this in Michigan? Looks like a gorgeous area.
Will never use such obvious ambulance chasers.
This is ford michigan proving grounds. Located near Romeo Michigan.
You guys were there the other day for the superduty event. I work midnights so i didn't have much involvement.
Can't wait to finance this truck for 15 years and daily drive it to work and back 😂
*Edit* for all the people I triggered, I was just being sarcastic with my comment
Some wannabe country singer will do it
You would have to use it as a daily driver. After financing it you wouldn't be able to afford another vehicle to be used as a daily driver. 😂
A lot of these are sold to tow businesses with tax benefits.
What's the cost for this truck, that will last maybe a year pulling loads like that!
15 years? for a $62,000 truck? It's a 950 a month note for 72 months if you put zero money down. If the price of this truck puts you off you don't need it. This is for guys running hotshot, or moving job site equipment. In that situation it's making you money
I would never tow this much with a pickup, but I have to say the standard cab dually is one of the best looking trucks made.
Agree 100% a crew cab and extended cab no doubt have more utility with the extra interior space. But i love that classic standard cab look.
This truck would look even better with a flatbed
Good info about transmission temperatures. The guy said it was designed to run all day at 257 degrees which would freak most people out.
Sounds like the "lifetime fluid" promise
@@ts9271 Never believed that one. Well I know if mine hit 257 it would be changed soon after!
that's because most people are thinking of old conventional trans fluid which will start to foam and break down at those temps but synthetic fluid used now days are good for way more than that. But if you tow heavy like that my Ford owners manual says to change at least every 30k miles or when needed.
@@WhoThisGuy515the fluid changed but transmission basically work the same just more gears I put the biggest trans cooler in my truck when I bought it new has 220k miles on it and original Trans truck is used for construction pulling heavy trailers Gm says 200-210 is normal operating temp my Trans has never got past 200 even towing heavy on a 98 degree day without a trailer my Temps are 150 or so if I never installed that cooler I can almost bet the Trans would of been cooked by now
It's studied, designed and made to last for the length of the warranty and a day.
Imagine baking the TCM, O-Rings, fibers and all else that's not made out of steel on a 257°F sauce for 1000's of miles while pulling a heavy load day-in, day-out.
Yeah, NO, not good, I don't care who says otherwise, engineer or not.
The ambulance chaser ads in the middle of the video are annoying.
They got to make their doe!
I hope you never watch tv, you probably won’t be able to take it.
Yes they are!! 🤔
You will live
Fast forward, it's easy
A Class 8 semi grossing 80,000 lbs has a 20,000-pound truck and 60,000-pound trailer. So the trailer is 3 times the weight of the truck. Towing a 40,000-pound trailer with an 8000-pound F450 has a 5:1 trailer to truck weight ratio. I'd get a bigger truck to handle that much weight to avoid being pushed all over the road by the trailer. Out in the real world there is more to towing than just weight. There is also trailer size. The demonstrator trailer that Ford had was weighted with dense material, allowing the frontal area of the trailer to be smaller than the truck. Not everybody hauls steel. If you're towing something like an intermodal shipping container that has multiple times the frontal area of the truck the powertrain will be working hard all the time, even on flat ground. And in crosswinds the trailer will push the back of the truck around badly.
This truck does seem light compared to what it's towing. In the real word, towing that much weight will take a long time to stop, even at low speeds or going down hill/mountains.
I could see this being a good aggregates hauler, I don’t even think they make a 15 ton dump trailer but if you could get one you basically have an average tandem dump truck load out of a pickup truck. Save quite a bit on taxes and not to mention you’d have way better maneuverability.
I regularly hit 50k with a 40 foot gooseneck full of large square bales. I wouldnt hit the highway but perfectly capable, and legal where im at.
There's a reason you have to load precisely the right weight on the right axel.
The real world. Of the proving ground. With a single cab stripper 2wd F450. Of which they will sell 2.
Interesting that on that short grade on what looks like a cool day the cooling fans had to come on. That doesn’t bode well for being fully loaded up a long grade on a hot day. Especially if you throw in some altitude.
I wonder how many of us would take half the power, half the capability for twice the reliability.
And half the price
almost there, 6.0 and 6.4 were around half of everything including reliability😀😀
Not me I'll take 500 horses every single day
Sounds like you are describing my old 7.3L
That drivetrain will never last a 100 k doing that work at those rpms without sinking some serious repair money into it. But this is the world we live in nowadays. On the other hand anyone needing to haul 40 k on a regular basis should not be looking at that size truck. I guess time will tell
Three things.
First: in the United States any combination grossing more than 13 tons (26,000) requires a CDL. Getting caught without the appropriate license, plates, and permits is serious fines and in some states could be vehicle confiscation or worse.
Second: Ford as a manufacturer has stated that any continuous temperature reading of the transmission fluid over 240* is causing significant wear to the transmission, anything over 250 is permanent fluid breakdown along with the seals and internal frictions.
Third: If you are thinking of buying a truck to get anywhere close to this weight, at current market most medium duty will be cheaper to operate and easier to repair.
Regarding the trans temp, good thing Andrey was only observing 214 although who know how high it could go away from the Ford test loop.
The CDL requirement part is false. It all depends on how the vehicle is being used and if the operator it being paid in any way related to the use of the vehicle. Also, many (most?) states have exemptions for RV's. In my state, I could absolutely drive that combination for personal use without a CDL.
If you plan to regularly tow 20 tons it may be better to just buy something like a Freightliner M102.
I will take the FORD Power Train in the F450 over the M102 any day...
@@ebnhahn1993I think his point is to move up to a dedicated commercial medium duty truck.
@@LayzeeGiant Exactly. I’ve read so many stories and watched so many videos of owners angry that their [insert brand name here] pickup had major issues at 50,000 miles or sooner after they’ve beat it like a mule.
Definitely. Not necessarily a Freight-shaker, but if you are maxing out your truck on a regular basis, you should be moving to a bigger truck, unless you want to wreck it.
Get yourself nice Coronado glider with pre egr 12.7 series 60 and 13/18 speed transmission.
They've underestimated this truck's capabilities because I was able to tow Puerto Rico closer to the United states just yesterday.
I don't have any numbers to provide, but just accomplishing that alone is impressive.
😅
How about going down and seeing if you can pull Mexico further away from the US? 😏
@@RealJohnWaynelol
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Nice to see a classic single cab.
It probably only hits 40k towing in that configuration.
@@willbenner3You’re correct. It’s always the XL trim , 2WD and Regular Cab.
@@Mr.Worf63and HO diesel engine.
@@willbenner3 yes due to its light /lighter weight than a loaded 4 door witch is much heavier!
At that weight, I'll just spend the extra $ and get a medium duty. Still an impressive display of towing capability by Ford.
Chassis Cab?
@@Nostradamus_Order33 yeah. I should've been more clear and said a class 5 or above.
medium duty? Medium duty trucks can’t tow this much. Too tow this much you need a true dump truck. medium duty trucks IE an F650 or a Chevy 6500 version have high capacity in the bed not towing.
@@remingtonwells7286 I know lol. An M2 106 international with a custom fit fith wheel should do the job. Expensive, but worth it if I'm towing that amount of weight on a regular.
how is a 450 not a medium duty?
Anyone else think 40K is too much for the consumer? I foresee some people getting in way over their head with this. Luckily very few will ever approach towing 40K. What will be sweet is that high output motor in an F250 or 350 towing a big 5th wheel travel trailer like it is nothing. Consumers will appreciate that.
Anything over 26,000lbs GVWR requires a CDL. But most of these companies and reviewers fail to mention that. They just want the wow factor of one upping each other.
LazyGiant that largely isn't true. Only about 10 states require you to have a specific license to drive over 26000 if you are a private citizen. Meaning some person could absolutely load up a 40k trailer and drive it down the road with zero experience.
The FMCSA would like a word with you. Besides VERY specific exemptions for things like farmers, RVs, snow removal, emergency or military personnel, there is literally no state that is totally cool with a regular, non-exempt driver loading up a trailer with 20 tons and hauling it down the highway.
Pretty sure that here in Illinois you can legally tow an RV (like a fifth wheel) over 26k GCWR without a CDL. Not sure about other types of trailers.
@@LayzeeGiant Aside from the personal use allowance, most states exempt RV use anyway.
Seriously impressive machines. But I agree with other commentators here, the ratio of trailer weight to truck is a tad scary even if it CAN do it.
Shouldn’t be bad with the correct trailer and with trailer brakes
Trucks designed to handle it
It's the same ratio as a tractor trailer. A semi by itself is around 16k lbs. A dry van trailer is 20-24k lbs and then the load can max out at around 47-48k lbs. A 16k lbs truck pulls around 76k lbs everyday.
@@veterantrucker1018 But that semi has air brakes.
@@richpryor9650 air brakes can fail just like hydraulic brakes. The enemy of all brake types is heat.
I ran 600,000km of daily towing a 50 foot deck trailer hauling upto 24,000LB loads. Load/Trailer combined being 35,000LBS. I did this with my 2012 F550 with its 6.7 and it handled it amazingly, and yes i was legal weights as i regularly ran the scales. Only major repairs that truck ever needed was 1 rear end at 500,000km, a water pump, an alternator, and a couple of turbos(the stock ones were very weak). Overall i think ford makes a very good work truck and that 6.7 is a great engine all around.
can we talk about those absolutely massive stock rims. They look amazing
They are 19.5” commercial truck rims, that’s the only way 450’s come going back decades now. 350 dually’s have the standard 16-17” maybe 18” rims depending on year.
Let me tell you how rough these trucks ride with those commercial 19.5 rims. Wish they still had wide beam front on f-350!!!🤦🏽♂️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😕
I think those tires are 225-70/19.5. They sell for as much as $530.00 each.
@@Bill-sp8kb and ride like shit! Ask me how I know…..🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😆
@@Bill-sp8kbif you're worried about tire money, you wouldn't be driving one of these.
That 6.7 is an absolute beast we have them in all of our tow trucks and even towing two big ol lifted trucks at the same time you can't even tell they're there just pure power quick off the line and definitely incredible stopping power Love them. I keep it to the rug all day everyday it don't care
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should 🤦🏻♂️
💯💯💯
Love that F450 regular cab pickup. Only thing I would change is make it a 4X4.
The extra wait of the front axel would take away the ability of the truck to haul 40,000 lbs. That’s why they showed the model they did. Completely stripped down hauler. My bet is even getting a better interior would take away from that number.
@@MOE-db8octhe 4wd truck would pull it fine just not legally
@@uselesslyopinionated8447
I didn’t say anything about it not pulling it.
Are you going to off-road it? A truck like that is something nobody is ever going to buy.
@@stchman Actually I've been looking at the F450 regular cab pickup in XLT trim and 4X4 for about a year now. Only found one to drive and it was used. If everything works out right going to try and order a 2024. Turning radius is fantastic. And the ride was pretty good. For some reason it was riding on Bilstien 8100 shocks which probably helped.
Ford builds the best Trucks hands down !!!! Better than the garbage GM is producing !!!
Impressive but I feel that 40k is just too much weight for a small single axel truck.
If you remove the cab and passenger seat you can tow an additional 600 pounds
That's definitely the truth.
Not sure why anyone would tow that much with a small truck. Nice to have that kind of power, but control of the load would be difficult over a long haul, especially in a NON-Controlled environment. Appreciate the video.
Wow! I still wonder if a person would be better going up to a non CDL medium-sized truck. I'd love to see how the conventional setups did....but, all in all, pretty incredible numbers on the 450.
I could see a truck like this hauling aggregates, a 15 ton load is a class 8 tandem dump truck load, but you could match that out of this lil guy. Getting in and out of jobsites would be easier not to mention you could prolly fly by under the radar without a CDL.
Anything over 10k power unit, or 26k combined you need a CDL. Period
@@jayrichards3672 you could fly by under the radar without one, as long as you play it safe.
@@jayrichards3672There are 18 states that require a Non-CDL-A license each are different and class of license are different A,B or Z .
@@jayrichards3672anything over 26,001 lbs combination unless the trailer weighs less than 10,001 pounds and the power unit doesn’t exceed 26,001 lbs period***
Another prime example of, just because you can doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Nothing against the guys at TFL. Except for leaving out any real world breaking tests, the video seemed to offer a fair assessment of the new drive train.
"Real world" braking tests would have been virtually meaningless since the trailer's tires, brakes, and weight distribution would have affected the results way more than the truck itself. Whatever results they got with that combination wouldn't apply to anything else. The only way to make the braking test represent the truck's capabilities rather than the combination as a whole would be to disable the trailer's brakes and see how well the truck could stop the load by itself, which is also a valid test since trailer brakes can fail, therefore the truck should be able to stop the entire combination by itself within 80 feet at 20 MPH while maintaining stability and staying within its lane as per SAE J2807 towing capacity testing standards.
@@averyalexander2303 Doesn't that statement actual re-enforce my point? The manufactures will never be able to outpace physics. Most truck owners experience adverse driving conditions on a regular basis. As someone who drives a 2013 F350 4dr, dually pulling a 20k lb 5th wheel, I can attest most testing standards for towing don't prevent most accidents. It is impossible. From equipment failure, bad drivers to road condition create too many variables.
@@dstaff4134 Yup, couldn't agree more!
Good luck getting 40k moving with a light 2wd truck on a steep hill in the rain
Or stopping on said hill in the rain.
the truck has fifth wheel ball type hoop up. the weight is distributed to probably half on the truck so there would be no problem for traction or stopping.
What a beast of a truck. Nice job Ford
U gonna need a class A license to haul that
They always conveniently leave that little tidbit out.
The way that break a way cable is hooked up, scares the hell out me.
You guys need to take that truck with 40k behind it and do the ike gauntlet test. Now that will truly show what that truck is capable of
sheesh that would be scary
I don’t think it would make it
@@scz718645it’s 100% making it Ford always done better than fiat ram and gm up the Ike been the quickest every single time since 2013 when they started doing the tests
Guy in the video said Ford's already done that.
@@ictpilot Talk is cheap evidence is expensive, so show us the proof.
That’s impressive! Crazy! I’m wondering where this will end by DOT rules?
It's just showcasing it's capabilities.
Nobody will be actually be towing that much weight on a truck like that.
But in case you were wondering, it can do it.
It will likely only end when the manufacturers run out of ways to work within the J2807 towing standard. Or SAE modifies the standard. 🤷
@@oscara.9265 More likely they will exceed the limit if they think they can get away with it. That’s been the pattern ever since heavy duty pickups have been around!
@@oscara.9265Im not nobody
@@oscara.9265 You know farmer brown in the year 2036 will be towing 50,000 pounds with one of these LOL
5:18.. sounded like a rocket.
Amazing power, should haul all the groceries for the week
If you can afford to carry that much groceries. With the amount of groceries I can afford. I could use a bicycle.😂😂
Imagine driving one of these with no weight at all with your foot to the floor... (it's amazing)
Nice max tow number. Especially if you're going to tow 20-25k lbs. Will pull with ease.
As a truck driver I'm impressed, but wouldn't trust it.
An aluminum 8k lb truck towing 40,000?....🤣...With a short wheelbase truck also...🤣 How stupid have we become.
Hopefully everyone took notice. That regular cab, 2WD, base model is the one with this towing capacity, now the crew cab 4WD lariat you really want...:)
There needs to be more stricter regulations on these trucks. Just anybody can jump in this tinny truck and pull 40,000 pounds down the interstate with no experience. If u want to pull that much weight get a bigger heavier truck please. God help everybody and their family’s trying to get home in their cars.
8,000 pounds pulling 40,000 pounds would make me nervous.
Should make any logical person nervous. That weight ratio is downright scary.
closer to 9000
@@jeffdolby More like 10,000.
If you load it properly you have a good bit on truck and not the full 40k on the trailer
@@boomer1049 You would still have most of it on the trailer.
My biggest complaint is they build those diesels in MEXICO😡 and five minutes away from the proving grounds they closed an excellent Ford V8 facility and killed more American jobs. I call NONSENSE and CORPORATE GREED.
imagine a hybrid truck with regenerative braking, how much energy can it recoup with 40000lb load
Yeah but a hybrid with a decent sized battery/motors etc. will weigh significantly more thus affecting the GVWR;. Probably end up losing several thousand pounds of towing.
Itd have to be an ev sized battery to store all that and make more than a couple minutes use of regen’d juice
Worthless the battery will be dead before the load is up to speed
Regen braking is pointless barely harnesses anything
@@gamebredduramax71look into Edison motors, way more variables involved.
If I have to tow at that weight I'll get a proper class 5/6 truck. It's not the power, it's the chassis...
Honestly that’s an awesome looking truck
Just think about it, a semi truck normally tows 80k+ pounds down the American roads, subtract that by 40k and you get the Ford's new towing ability! Fcking amazing if I say so myself, being able to tow half of what a semi truck can tow for a pickup truck, that's hella impressive!
A 2 seat short F-450 truck, wow.
It was beaitiful
I remember back in1985 working at Alamo Steel company all our F250 and F350 were gasoline engine 300 in line six cylinder pulling gooseneck trailer load with steel rebars up to 20.000 to 25.000 lbs and those 300 in line six cylinder with a 4 speed standard transmission would pulll great all that weight they use more gas back then gasoline was cheaper
The powerstroke is nice and all, but what we really need to see is the 6.8 minizilla in action.
Nothing beats in towing the Cummins. I love the 7.3 but that low end torque of a Cummins is unmatched.
@@angelgjr1999 BULLCHIT. Dodge pushing that Cummins is nice but Ford has a 7.3 *gas engine that will dam near step on that Cummins, so comparing it to Ford diesel engine is not even a comparison. Ford makes better trucks then Dodge, I will go with a Chevy before I buy a cheap a&& Dodge
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr I like Cummins, not Dodge. Cummins is a separate company that makes engines. Dodges are cheap Italian crap.
@@angelgjr1999 you right about cheap 🤣🤣, but what I'm saying is Cummins is behind Ford engine. It use to be the best pickup truck diesel but Ford has the best now.
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Which one? The 7.3 is gasoline
At 40,000 lbs, are you required to have a CDL? If so, that's kind of funny.
Yes.
@@jghall00If you don’t use the truck for commercial use you don’t need a CDL. I see people with F-450 and 550 pulling campers all the time and they don’t need a CDL.
@@patch6999 It's based on the weight being towed.
Getting 40k moving is one thing getting it stopped is a whole different game, no one mentioned the braking, they mentioned exhaust brake but that is not the primary braking
Good thing you brought this up, it seems the Ford engineers totally overlooked the brakes. I'm surprised they were able to get it certified at that weight.
@@skrsys You do realize that the F-450/F-550 and F-600 share the same brakes? Ford engineers didn't overlook anything! The F-450 to F-600 also share the same wheels. The thing that separates the F-450 from the F-600 is the rear end and the number of springs.
@@dundonrl You failed to detect my sarcasm on the fact somehow the Ford engineers didn't consider the brakes and got the truck certified at that weight.
I failed to detect your sarcasm as well. It was worded in a way where it sounded nothing like sarcasm.
they did indirectly by talking about the exhaust brake capability and I'm reasonably sure, part of the J2807(?) Davis Dam test is stopping without the aid of the trailer brakes.
Please time index your videos so we can skip the stupid paid advertisements!
But I must say that this one with Nathan was very clever!
Trucker here, I wouldn't tow 40,000 with a pickup truck.thats why we have class 8 trucks to handle it.🤔
It is not a fail test with single cabin. I wouldn't buy the single cabin pickup truck when spending 100k + for Ford F450 Limited.
After watching this, who would even CONSIDER buying a Chevy or Dodge?
Thanks, Andre! ...very impressive! ...was hoping you'd stop on the steep grade, accelerate and also stop going down the steep grade to see about braking performance! ...a fast/sudden stop on level ground would also be good to see. I have a '99 F-550 7.3 dump truck and part of weekly driving is having to stop harder & sooner than expected because of cars jumping ahead of me (into the large cushion that I like to have) and the braking/turning. Of course, this happens when I am empty at 11,800lbs AND when I am fully loaded with stone and equipment and trailer at 22-32,000lbs.
I had hoped he'd stop on the grade, too. In fact, the Ford rep even offered that as a possibility if Andrey wanted.
Nice truck but if I’m gonna be towing anywhere near 40k I’m just gonna go to a higher class of truck lol.
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite channel on YT. It was your video review on the F-150 Powerboost that sold me on getting one. All of the information on Ford engineering in these videos really sparks my interests.
It's great that it CAN tow 40,000 lbs. Most people already realize that if you regularly tow at max load, then you need a bigger truck. In this case you'd need a semi-truck. What it does do is reassure that it could handle 10,000 lbs less with ease, about anywhere. I don't like the weight ratio between the truck and maxed trailer load. I don't think it's a good idea to attempt the Ike Gauntlet at 40,000 lbs with that truck.
Just buy a day cab Peterbuilt probably cheaper
200k vs 100k
And then introduce the maintenance. PB probably shines in that regard.
Engineer is like dude just shut up and drive it😂
I’m sure chevy and ram can’t wait to buy so they can make their copies.
Then ford builds a truck that tows 50,000
Ram has been @ around 37,000 on their 3500 series pickup trucks for several years. For some reason they haven't really chased towing #'s on their 4500/5500 series trucks. GM claims 36,000 on the latest model year 3500 series pickups.
Stopping is more important than what you can pull. No way this truck can stop 40000lbs safely.... repeatedly. That amount of weight would toss that truck around like it was nothing
It has to meet some distance or xx% higher vs empty, I don't know the formulas. But they are using SAE testing when they set the tow ratings, so I would think it has to be able to do it. You could look up what goes into the J2807(?) testing, I know there's a lot to it, just don't remember all of the details.
The safety factor is DO NOT TOW 40K with any pickup truck.
If you want to pull 20 tons just buy a used single axle semi and don't worry about it
ford is always ahead💯
Ok so they are telling the average consumer, if you buy our plane Jane 2wd f450 you can tow 40k. First of all, over 26001 pounds you need a cdl license. 2nd, no average consumer should try this. Truck is way to light for that much weight. 3rd thing, it's a Ford. I believe they are currently in bankruptcy because of warranty repairs. They are considering splitting into different divisions to stay afloat. This is laughable, let's build a truck with 500 horsepower 1100ft lb of torque? Why? To have more horsepower than ram or gm? Put more effort into quality, build a truck people can actually afford to buy. All new trucks from Ford, ram and gm are way to expensive. $80k to $100+ for a pickup truck is ridiculous!
Definitely need to do Ike Gauntlet.
Of course it can tow 40k lbs!! Legally, did it one time with a 2017 F-350 6.7 dually 4:10 rear end with a 38 ft.11k lb trailer with 26k lbs on the deck and the truck did that load up and down mountainous highways with relative ease on a 3 hour drive. Ford makes the most capable trucks in the business and they should considering the money they spend on their truck division and the amount of profit they make from it.
That is a hell of a lot of weight. It's enough that one might be better off looking at a medium duty F650-750 truck though. I can see sooner or later in these tow weight wars between the truck makers that someone makes a factory standard three axle 1 ton or 1 1/4 ton truck just so you have another axle worth of brakes and contact patch.
Those trucks f650 has no power. 3 axle trailer carriers and stops most of the weight.
@@foreshee10 The F650 and F750 are rated differently and at different rpms. A 650 or 750 may not be faster with the same weight as the 450 but it will handle it better. Have a trailer brake overheat or failure and good luck stopping it with that 450.
Pushing the limits of hydraulic brakes
I always like a stought pulling FORD truck. Ford makes the best trucks on the road. You won't ever pull 40,000 lbs ever unless you sell batterys and a single axle road tractor will do that and avoid the finace charge of this 100 thousand dollar truck.
so why do we need these?
Bragging rights. Anyone serious about hauling that much weight will opt for a class 8 medium duty truck.
40000 pounds? You can get a class 8 with a 440 hp 1850 lb ft torque 15 L engine and get 7.5 mpg. Oh and great brakes too. But nah, this is more fun.
See you on the Ike!
They're too busy building all these demo trucks. They need to get started on my king ranch
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Ford does it again. Another awesome truck that only 5% of the population can afford.
It's a business vehicle that can do double duty with a 5th wheel or boat.
Only 5% of the population would need 40k of towing
F450 Limited, - only about 1% of population can swing it.
@@wj2791 It comes in cheaper trims. Just because most people can't afford it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. If it's for a business use it's a tax deduction anyway. If it's for personal use then you make bank and probably have nice toys.
@@wj2791 pretty sure the f450 with the 40K tow rating is going to be an XL trim. I don't think you can get any trim level above xlt in a regular cab.
After waiting for F450 Limited since last Oct, 28th, I made the decision to pick up 2023 Ram 3500 DRW HO 6.7 Cummins , 4.,1 Gear Night Edition. I have lot less drama.. It comes with Auto Rear leveling and TPMS. Tire is wide enough to drive as is. It rides more smooth and quiter.. I love Ford, but Ram impressed me as well. Full body PPF and Nano ceramic installed.. Nothing more needs to be done to the truck. I can drive it as is.
I don't think I'd want sleezy ambulance chaser lawyers sponsoring me...
Thumbs down for this one
And fuel pump fails ! Haha
I want to see a drag race with the high output diesel engine.
they're really quick. I drove an f350 dually recently and they can move! pretty cool feeling in a vehicle that large
I would like seeing this truck in the ike gauntlet. That would be amazing.
I like how the video started in front of the letters BS.
Clearly this 40k rated F450 config is the 'hot shot special' LOL
Super impressive I presume you need a CDL to drive a rig like this on public roads
It’s all how you use the truck. For pleasure you don’t need a CDL
@@patch6999 that seems a bit vague. One man’s pain is another man’s pleasure. I was under the impression that cops just look at GVWR and if your trailer and truck combined exceed the magic number…here’s your ticket
@@savannahrei8674 have a CDL and the cops don’t look at the GVWR of the truck and trailer. If you use it to make money then you need a CDL. Pulling a oversized camper, boat, etc. A CDL in not required. If you see a semi pulling a camper and it says not for hire it does not need a CDL.
@@patch6999it depends on the state
@@patch6999 However. If it has airbrakes. You still need airbrakes endorsement on your license.
I have a 2021 f-450 licensed at 40k. I pull all over the US. Different weights but a couple stand out. 1 load 3 10ft tall 17k lbs total 38k lbs arched steel panels for huge holding tanks. denver Colorado to Western Utah hwy 70 used for the trip. 2nd over weight load 2 armored with 50 cal turrets. Load weight 22k lbs total 43k lbs. Southern Illinois to Northern Michigan. 3rd oversized load fuel tank for fuel stations. 19,500 lbs for a total weight of 40,500 lbs. North Dakota to glacier national forest Montana. This 2021 f-450 6.7L holds its own flatland or mountains!
That is an amazing truck. That compression ignition engine has more torque than any other that Ford used in any of their vehicles. There's no way on this planet that the competition will win against it. How could the knowing that the torque is at twelve hundred foot pounds? This torque is possible because of that CGI block. Ford said it was the first used in the North America market. Yes, that's absolutely incredible. What's CGI? Compacted Graphite Iron. How could those two metals exist together? Apparently, quite well. I hope the four of you are having an excellent day. It's great seeing my favorite auto company doing so well. B'bye
Didn't Ram start to offer way back in 2019 a puny 6 cylinder Cummins diesel that has a new revolutionary CGI block and now offers a mere 1075 foot pounds? It won't be king for long.
Graphite is not a metal it’s just carbon carbon chains. It’s honestly just creating high carbon steel
Compacted Graphite Iron is not so revolutionary as it is evolutionary. It has been under development in the heavy duty diesel market for about 30 years and was used by Navistar in their Maxx Force engines long ago. Cummins introduced CGI in the Dodge 6.7L engine in 2019. In a noteworthy gasoline application, GM has used CGI in their R07 NASCAR race blocks since 2007.
Cast Iron is a group of iron-carbon alloys that are defined by the form that the graphite takes in the microstructure. Over 2% carbon content, free graphite forms in the iron matrix, and depending on certain alloying elements and how the material is handled during casting, different forms of graphite are produced. Grey Iron has flake graphite and has standard ASTM specifications that have tensile strengths in the range of 30-40000 psi. Most heavy duty diesels use gray iron blocks at 35000 psi tensile strength. Ductile (also known as nodular) iron has graphite spheres and is produced in tensile strengths ranging from 60-100,000 psi. Compacted graphite iron has graphite formations that look like corkscrew worms and typically is produced in tensile strength of 65,000 psi.
Holy fan boy. You don’t need a CGI block to handle 1200 ft/lbs 😂
It certainly doesn't hurt. Answer me this question. Why do European tractor trailer companies use it in their engines in addition to Ford over here in North America? For an asides, you didn't need to type carbon twice. Once would be a sufficient amount.
My two cents this test is controlled environment. Real world towing is not that simple you need more than just power to properly and safetly pulling that much weight most of coments are correct go to a biger truck
Let’s see one EV truck do that, oh wait…they can’t!
@@bielmelichartes2167the hummer ev is way heavier than this too
@@bielmelichartes2167 with all due respect, the GMC Hummer EV is no match for anything that a normal diesel truck can do in towing in the real world. Modeling this performance through simulation has proven this point as soon as they are in real situations. Yes the Hummer can accelerate faster, and the range gets cut dramatically on every run. I agree that range is a big issue, and it gets worse with loads. Also, there is no heavy duty EV truck yet. This government we have is forcing auto manufacturers to comply with a idealistic at best EV-only policy rather than the truth. So expect every truck manufacturer to have one soon as they go along with the program. I’m for EV as an option for people, but do not pretend this is the solution for energy in the future.
@@bielmelichartes2167 if it had a big enough battery to have good range for this job you'd be paying for a tank of diesel in hydro unless you had a 2-300amp panel for overnight charging.
I have complete faith in the automotive industry to get there but it's definitely not going to be cheap at the charger and the sticker
@@bielmelichartes2167soooo, you're saying it CAN'T do this? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@bielmelichartes2167 Exactly, it can't. It would go about 3 miles, and it would be out of power.
Towhammer 40K. Torque for the Torque Gods
You forgot to go back and compare thoughts with Mr Truck
Mr. Truck probably left to go get lunch.
Its all about scamming the public
The first question that comes to mind about the HO engine is longevity, actually, the manufacturers have thrown reliability out the window in their engine design. The bigger the number the shorter the life.
Pulling it isn't the Problem. Try Stopping at from 65 mph. Then Brag about it.
40,000 combined, still very impressive!!
Hi Andrey, can you please ask if you can convert your High Output to Waterless Coolant and would that void the warranty or damage the engine? Please and Thank You 🙏
If manufacturers keep having these towing wars, we may not need Semi's anymore. LOL
I know someone who towed a 110,000 lb work-over rig with a 3/4 ton dodge pickup
I LOVE the aluminum Alcoa style wheels they went with!!! Totally gets brownie points from me for that!! None of that simulated CRAP duallys normally come with.. this is REAL Solid wheels.
My 2011 ford escape can do that easy and some
Man, a Max Tow rating of 20 Tons, is mind blowing!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
As a semi truck driver hauling this kind of weight behind a 8k pound truck sounds extremely un safe I really wouldn’t recommend anyone doing this
My 04 ram w/24v cummins pulls that much weight w/no problems 100% stock!😮
Just because we can, doesn't mean we should. I think it's cool that a truck can tow half that of a semi. But do I want to own or drive one? Or even meet it on the road? No. Especially not on a snowy or rainy day. There's no way it's as safe as with a semi.