POWER STATION: WHAT'S UP WITH THE LINE OUT?
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- This is the fourth video in our series where we take our most commonly received tech support questions and attempt to answer them in as succinct a manner as possible. Thanks for checking it out!
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The Fryette Power Station® - a new amplifier attenuator and re-amplification solution, offering players intuitive and precise control over amplifier volume, distortion behavior and a wide range of highly refined tonal qualities previously unavailable from any single attenuating or re-amping product.
Built on decades of experience producing the finest all-tube power amps available, the Power Station is a practical and highly functional tool that solves problems frequently encountered in live playing and recording environments. It beautifully accentuates the inherent qualities of any amplifier and allows your amplifier to breathe and dynamically respond to your playing technique the way a great guitar amp should. The Power Station is designed to be transparent, user friendly, reliable and ultra-responsive to a wide array of guitar amplifier and speaker types. It also integrates seamlessly with any combination of internal and external speaker configurations.
The Power Station also excels as a power booster, something that no other attenuator can do. Just as you would connect a big amp to reduce output volume, the Power Station can also be used to boost the output of a small amplifier. Imagine taking your mini-amp or small vintage combo to a gig and having enough power to be heard without sacrificing feel and tonal quality. It is not only possible, but easy and fun!
Finally, your Power Station functions as a versatile silent reactive load for direct recording by simply connecting the Balanced or Unbalanced Line out to your recording interface.
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Music and guitar dude = Joe Gamble - Розваги
Love the vids, and love my PL-1. Thanks Steve and Joe for all that you share. Cheers
Love this, thank you!!
The Power Station is a very innovative design,
Very informative, thank you! But... I do also wonder, if you're running effects in the loop, is the line out before those effects or after?
I run the line out to a mixer that is running into my computer for recording and unfortunately, the recordings do NOT have the effects that I am running in the loop of the power station😞 so I would say before. It would be nice if the effects were on the recordings as I hoped it would work that way when I purchased mine. Maybe Fryette can add to this comment to clarify this and to say if there is some way to make it work!
This is explained in the video. The line out is fed by the reactive load which receives the power from an amplifier: without an amplifier connected to the reactive load, the line out does not have a source.
hey! is it ok to have both a modeler plugged in into the line input and an amp into the amp input at the same time (provided that only one of these devices is turned on at a time)
Great Video !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe. I have a question. ON the FRYETTE website you sell COLOR CODED speaker cables for the POWER STATION. are these standard speaker cables or necessary for the use of the PS-100 ???????? THX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Standard speaker cables are usually 18ga. "Heavy Duty" cables are usually 16ga. Our cables are 14ga for maximum power handling capacity from the amp to the Power Station, and maximum fidelity from the Power Station to your cab.
@@FryetteAmps AH !!!!! Thank You for the INFO and Thank You for the fast response !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In addition to the amp input, could you run a pre- amp (ADA MP-1foe example), at the same time, and run an A/B/Y foot switch, to foot switch between the two, or both at the same time? For example, the ADA MP-1 has a built in chorus, which sounds great clean, and use the pre-amp, as your clean channel, and even run them both at the same time, to utilize the built-in chorus of the ADA pre- amp? Thanks.
Not currently, but we have a solution for this coming up in a couple of weeks. Stay tuned!
When using the line out I understand it's not affected by the presence and depth controls. As I'm getting the sound I want with these via my cab, what can I use in my DAW, perhaps pre-cab emulation, to get the line out sound to be similar?
Is it as simple as adding an EQ? If so what kind of frequencies, Q, etc?
Try Self Attenuation Mode. That will allow you to send the PS power amp behavior - including the functions of the Presence and Depth controls - back into the Amp In, and therefore the Line Out. See: ua-cam.com/video/xfZtYbUwDZA/v-deo.html
Unrelated to the power station, does Joe have any albums or like a band camp/soundcloud we can listen to his fantastic playing?
I think people get confused because the Line In is really not functionally related to the Line Out. The Line In is really for any input that is not an Amp (except if an amp has a separate line out) In many ways the Line Out is more like a ‘Direct Out’ from the power amp.
Steven and Joe, In my studio can I have the Power Station line input pugged into a patch bay for the times I want to use per-se a modeler while still having my speaker out of my amp plugged into the amp in on the Power Station and have the speaker out of the Power Station to a load box such as OX, Captor X or a regular speaker cab? Oh and if I have a line out XLR plugged into the Power Station and the other end plugged into a patch bay for use when its tapping my real amps output at the Power Stations amp input? I want to be able to do multiple things without having to reach behind the unit every time. I am also planning on buying a KHE ACS 8X4 amp switcher and run the Power Station through its S line send and its S-line return. Please advise.
I can confirm from personal use with my own patchbay that yes, you can leave the line In connected on a bay to use when you want while maintaining the AMP IN connection for Attenuation. I have a preamp plugged into my patchbay and when I want to use it I just run a jumper from Preamp OUT to PS2 Line IN and away I go.
@@Skoora When you leave an amp connected to the amp in and a cable connected to the line at the same time on the power station can you still use the line out XLR when you are using your real amp instead of the modeler? What I am doing is trying to hook up all the jacks I need for every scenario to the power station to avoid having to go back behind it to rewire stuff.
@@braxal6983 My Apologies, I was not hooking up the patchbayy like I thought I was. I wasn't leaving Line In connected at all times. When I double checked it today, it actually did not work. It severely decreases the level you can hear when the amp is being attenuated. It looks like connecting the jack makes the unit decide which will feed the power amp. I would say your option is to leave the patchbay connected but have the cable ready to go, unplugged, at the PS2 end when you want to use it.
@@Skoora I appreciate the help. When you leave a cable plugged into the amp in and using the line in is there any side effects?
Will there be a rackmount kit for the PowerLoad IR ?
Coming soon!
When you leave an amp connected to the amp in and a cable connected to the line at the same time on the power station can you still use the line out XLR when you are using your real amp instead of the modeler? What I am doing is trying to hook up all the jacks I need for every scenario to the power station to avoid having to go back behind it to rewire stuff.
Connecting to the LINE IN and the AMP IN at the same time will interrupt the signal from the AMP IN to the power amp stage. You need a AB Box to switch between the head and a preamp to prevent that interrupt.
@@FryetteAmps I thought the AMP IN was only used to connect a speaker load. How exactly do I use a A/B box when I have a line out of a preamp (ToneX, Quad Cortex, etc..) and a speak out of and amp such as a Marshall head?
@@braxal6983 Please send that question to support@fryette.com
Can't you run a speaker cable from speaker out to amp in (self attenuation mode) and then have access to the line out?
Yes!
Does that mean you could use the line out to directly feed an ir loader or would you need a di to do that?
If your IR loader accepts line level then you're good.
Will the line out work for sending to effects for a wet rig or re-amping (in stereo) a loaded down amp?
If running my PS2 in self attenuation mode,using a Synergy preamp,will the line out work in this scenario?
Yessir!
Does it mean the reactive load is somehow still operating even if the Fryette is in bypass mode since the Line out is still providing a signal in this mode? With the Fryette turned off, do I get the same Line output sound with either the amp load going to the cab (bypass mode with cab attached) or going to the internal reactive load (silent mode with no cab attached)? Sorry I’m still a bit confused 😊. Thank you 🙏
The Line out taps off of the Amp In jack, which is connected to your amps output. So it will operate whether you use a cab or the internal load and in Operate or Bypass mode.
@@FryetteAmps Thank you! Can I assume that the XLR and jack Line out are the same? I am currently feeding a cab sim (UAFX Ox Stomp) with the XLR Line out of the PS2A. Just want to make sure this is the right way to do it. Thanks.
Yes. The XLR Out is a balanced and isolated version of the unbalanced 1/4" out.@
@@FryetteAmps Thank you!
@@FryetteAmps can you explain the line out on the PS2 (not the PS2a). Is it a clean line out like the ps2a? The manual talks about it being frequency compensated?
So you theoretically could JUST use the tube power amp section (NOT the reactive load/attenuator) and then go into a SEPARATE reactive load box from the PS speaker out if you wanted to then, right? Did I understand all of that correctly 😅
For example with a Suhr RL/IR? That’s what I’d like to know too.
@@mikesedee7814 after doing a bit more research, I believe the answer is “yes” - you’re effectively bypassing the reactive load at that point and just using the power amp.
@@bvanhoosen Thanx for coming back to this. 👍👍 Are you sure the attenuator is bypassed when using the speaker out? Would make sense if the speaker out has the attenuated signal including the two channel route. But this is just my guess.
Interesting, never show how it works, mine is sitting here not working and no info I can find.
fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
rock on Fryette. Loving my powerstation.Can you run a solid state poweramp into the amp in on the PS2.
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it wont damage the PS or the amp, PS is meant to handle tube amps so anything otherwise would be an easy task and the solid state power amp is going to be a lot less moody. id say you should be fine.