POWER STATION: PS-2 BETTER FOR BEDROOM PLAYING?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This is the sixth video in our series where we take our most commonly received tech support questions and attempt to answer them in as succinct a manner as possible. Thanks for checking it out!
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The Fryette Power Station® - a new amplifier attenuator and re-amplification solution, offering players intuitive and precise control over amplifier volume, distortion behavior and a wide range of highly refined tonal qualities previously unavailable from any single attenuating or re-amping product.
Built on decades of experience producing the finest all-tube power amps available, the Power Station is a practical and highly functional tool that solves problems frequently encountered in live playing and recording environments. It beautifully accentuates the inherent qualities of any amplifier and allows your amplifier to breathe and dynamically respond to your playing technique the way a great guitar amp should. The Power Station is designed to be transparent, user friendly, reliable and ultra-responsive to a wide array of guitar amplifier and speaker types. It also integrates seamlessly with any combination of internal and external speaker configurations.
The Power Station also excels as a power booster, something that no other attenuator can do. Just as you would connect a big amp to reduce output volume, the Power Station can also be used to boost the output of a small amplifier. Imagine taking your mini-amp or small vintage combo to a gig and having enough power to be heard without sacrificing feel and tonal quality. It is not only possible, but easy and fun!
Finally, your Power Station functions as a versatile silent reactive load for direct recording by simply connecting the Balanced or Unbalanced Line out to your recording interface.
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Music and guitar dude = Joe Gamble
I have the PS2. I cannot recommend it enough. I'd be totally screwed if something happened to it. I may end up getting a PS100 and using one or the other as a back up.
Here’s a like for the punk intro. Two favorite features of the PS-2: ability to add power to small amps, and effects loop.
Complaints about loud punk music and breath noise on a loud guitar amp channel are rich 🙄
people have gotten extremely lame within guitar circles
The 50w PS-2 would definitely do for me, but that switchable effects loop in the PS-100 would be nice to have. Choices choices...
Both units are semi usable for bedroom playing (I have both). Both produce an annoying hum (which is not a ground loop in my room) and of course the fan noise. I mentioned it in several comments already. Too much is cramped into these devices. Better is to use a reactive load and go reamping with a second tube amp (if you have one). I am using the PS in Europe. Maybe Fryette didn’t properly cater for our 50 Hz instead of the US 60 Hz. Consequently I rarely use these expensive devices. 😢
I would look at the new Morley Humno to get rid of the 50hz hum. Just a suggestion
Except it's not exactly economical to buy a whole new tube amp just to accomplish the goals you get using a Powerstation.
@@Joe-mz6dc I am sure that there are a lot of Powerstation owners owning more than one amp and amongst those amps one being perfectly suited for reamping. For those folks the Powerstation is uneconomical.
@@Willemguitar My studio is more or less hum free. Only when the PS is switched on.
@@Willemguitar I have three PS (two 100 and one PS/2). They all show the same behavior. I sent Fryette upon their request a video and then it turned quiet. They never came back, also not when I sent them a reminder.
When I get one, I will get the 100, just because of the "channel" feature and the extra power.
☝ more knobs.
The search for an honest man finally been completed. I love my PS-2.
agree 100% about the extra sonic girth of the PS-100. it's an awesome amp and usable in any situation. the LXII is also straight fire for going between a modeler and a traditional cab- injects that traditional feel we're all used to into a modern modeling scenario with a physical cab. Fryette is easily making the best power amps in the game right now
A 50 watt power section is sufficient for most applications!!
I use a ps100 at bedroom volumes and it sounds great. My brother has a ps2 and I can't tell a difference.
Thanks this has been helpful I purchased the ps2 for my 50w EVH stack
These videos are great, Thank you. Love Love Love my PS2.
Is there any significant difference between the PS2 and the PS2-A?
The 2A is the current production model and has an adjustable Line Out level control on the rear panel.
My PS2a does it all. bedroom level sound but it can get crazy loud if needed. I run through my FM9 into PS2 into and Atomic CLR passive. Also use PS2 to attenuate an 80s JCM800 Head and it sounds amazing fully cranked on jcm800 but bedroom level sound after it goes through PS2
If you love your family. You will always go with those Michelins. Regardless of cost or how much you drive.
I am completely flashed - I have the PS-2 for few days and it is great. Firstly I can play my Engl Ironball SE very quiet when it is necessary and with the complete gain and drive. But as well I can play it louder then the amp can deliver - this is already unbelievable .. but the LINE OUT XLR direct in my USB interface (Motu 6) is unbelievable .. I can record it directly and it sound in my DAW unbelievable great and perfect. You guys did a great job .. thanks and greetings from Germany
can you make one with 6V6's ? or can it be treaked for 6V6's
We could, but we decided that there's no practical benefit in doing that.
Thanks Joe and Co. ; )
(I was ready with the volume knob for the intro...you keep me on my toes...hehe)
Thank you for this awesome q&a series. I’ve got a question, if I may. For the PS-100 tubes, the manual lists “V1 - 12DW7/ECC832 Power amplifier driver and phase inverter.” However, the website says it’s a “One 12AX7.” From my limited research, the JJ electronics folks say that the ECC832 “combines 12AX7 and 12AU7, where the 12AX7 is used as 1st stage and the 12AU7 as 2nd stage.” So, my question is which would actually be ‘best’ for the PS-100? I’m curious whIch one will actually be inside my PS-100 when it arrives. Thank you once again!
The 1st 100 PS-100s used 12AX7. After that it was redesigned to use ECC832/12DW7 because it worked better for driving those big 6550s.
I see! Makes sense. 🤘Thank you for sharing this.
Need to boost a lunchbox amp, would this work well or should I get a dedicated power amp? Only wondering the difference maybe could be the transformers of say this unit vs the LXII, I want a big punchy sound as if running a traditional 6L6 power amp section.
PS-2 works great for this as long as you understand that the lunchbox amp had better sound good to start with. The PS power amp stage won't make something bad sound amazing.
Can I survive with a ps2 and not be able to switch effects loop on & off?
Usually if you're going to the effort of hooking up an effect, such as a delay or reverb, you're not that likely to turn it off.
Does the PS 2 handle 100 w amps?? anyone know the answer to this question???
Yes. Both can take 200 watt/ 150Watt depending if 2,4,16 or 8 ohm
I'm guessing using a 100w head into a PS-2 the 50w version is totally fine? You don't need the PS-100 for a 100w head?
Correct. 100 watts into the PS2 is perfectly fine. It can actually accept much more wattage, per the owners manual.
Do I need to buy separate speaker cables for this or they are included in the package?
Many players already have nice cables, but we do offer premium cable sets at www.fryette.com/accessories
Cool video! On the power station, is the effects loop fed into the signal before or after power attenuation? And briefly why?
fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
Will these actually push any watts through a speaker without an amp?😊
How would you use headphones with the PS-2a?
You'll want to connect the PS to something with an IR loader that has a HP out or send to your DAW and take the HPs from there.
@@FryetteAmps Any suggestions on a piece of gear by going the IR route? I'm using my unit with amp/cabinet. Would I have to throw something like a Boss IR-200 in my loop and use the headphone jack on that?
.. And then there's the spaz from The Lunatic Fringe who needs a half a dozen two/ninety/twos to get the signal from his power loads.
Is it "Amp-->Two Notes"OPUS"-->Loadbox-->Speaker OR...............................Is it "Amp-->Loadbox-->OPUS-->Speaker? And finally what jacks use (speaker cable)?? Thank you so much for your help in advance because I am "dead in the water" ntil i know the safe way to cable this
First way may be better but either way is OK.
Speaker cables on AMP IN and SPKR OUT.
fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
Im going to buy one of these and run.my tiny mooer micro preamps into it or just boost my joyo zombie
for less breath noise, pls try pointing the lav mic downwards
Hi. After a few weeks of absorbing info on reactive load options, I'm honing in on a Fryette PS-2. I have a few questions specific to my application.
I recently purchased a 1996 Vox AC30/6 TBX strictly for home recording use (Marshall produced JMI era AC30 reissue -> Mullard GZ34, EL-84, Alnico Blues, etc.). I want to use the amp's full range of tones, but won't be able to drive the amp to the level needed without some form of attenuation/voltage regulation. I'm looking for a solution with the least amount of tonal coloration, so needless to say I won't be using IRs or line direct -> I'll mic the speakers.
I sent the amp to Nashville Amplifier Service for mods and servicing, and need to decide on internal voltage regulation/master volume modification vs. an external attenuator. I'm currently leaning heavily towards external. I have a few questions:
1) Based on a white noise demonstration I found, it appears the EQ curve in by-pass mode is flat, but significantly altered when the tube amp is engaged. Would I need to run the Fryette in by-pass mode to prevent the 6L6 tube amplifier from coloring the Vox circuit?
2) I want to run a Multivox MX-201 Multi Echo through the Fryette Effects S/R. Will the Effects S/R function if I need to run the Fryette in by-pass mode?
3) Based on the connection diagrams in the Fryette manual, for my combo amp, it appears I'll need a direct cable connection to the speakers. Then use a female adapter to connect with the Fryette Speaker Out cable. Am I interpreting this correctly or over-complicating the set-up?
Thanks! I really hope the Fryette PS-2 is the right solution for me, but based on the approach I've seen in your videos I trust you'll give me an honest response either way... which I really appreciate.
This is a bit extensive to try to respond here. We'll cover it on an upcoming Malcontents You Asked For It episode.
I WISH IT JSUT WASNT SO EXPENSIVE!
I would like to know how I can get a humfree sound using the 4 cable method with my Marshall Plexi, PS2 and a Pod go.
Search Power Station Squeal video on YT. In the “Show More” section is a link to a flow diagram that will help you debug your ground loop.
Would it make any sense to use a Power Station with a solid state amp, like a Red Stripe Peavey Bandit? :)
With respect to the PV power amp out (speaker out), no. But you could connect the preamp out jack to the PL Line In.
Joe, if I run a line out to either my DAW or to an IR loading box like my Two Notes, do I disconnect the cable to my amp's speaker? Or do i just turn down the volume from the power amp to kill the speaker volume? Is there any volume control for the line out, or is it a fixed level? Thanks!
You can do it either way, but I would disconnect the speaker. The Line Out level is adjustable on the PS-2A and PS-100.
@@FryetteAmps Thanks. I just have a PS-2, not the 2A. But I'll see what works. I assume the volume knob on the front works off the power section, since it's basically re-amping, so that won't do it. Thanks again!
Thumbs up for sparing us the ear piecing punk intro.
Tge 50 would likely be better. At bedroom the channel switching is moot. However the kt88s are exceptional . I am soaking a Real JMP Wreck with the 100w and my neighbors are close,,, BUT as i increase the overall volume and it gets loud QUICK and that is where the magic happens on a Wreck. i got the 100 because that was the only availability last year and i got a steal of a deal.. If you have a champ and going to a 2500 seat arena. Sure grab a 100.. but get the fkn power station its the real deal and you wont regret. i send mine into the recording mixer and the mics on the pulsonics. And get the Fryette foot switch for the 100
PLEASE made one whith out power section!!! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE! ☺
What you're asking us to do is to take this product which does what it does better than anything on the market, but leave out the part that makes it do that.
@@FryetteAmps Like me, there are millions of guitarists who just need an attenuator with the excellent quality of yours. We don't have to spend extra money on power amps, valves, etc. Just the attenuator. Think about it.. Best regards!
@@PhillipMoita Strongly advise you read this: fryette.com/content/Power_Station_PS2A_Manual.pdf
@@FryetteAmps I don't think I've made myself clear. First of all, I know the PS2 and I really like it. I have a TwoRock and I just want to attenuate the power, but I don't want to spend money on the extras that the PS2 have, and I don't use. I just want a GOOD attenuator. The other (SOLO) attenuators on the market don't have the quality of yours. I apologize for my English.. Regards
@@PhillipMoita You're still missing the point: The power amp stage in the Power Station s not an "extra". It is literally how the power station attenuation operates. Without the power amp, it would just be a load box - Like the PL-IR. Except the PL-IR has a IR loader in it. www.fryette.com/fryette-power-load-ir-pl-ir-in-stores-now/
Thanks for not exploding my ears with the intro.
The only thing that could make your products cooler would be to build them in a lab where there also is a Godzilla. Oh.
I continue to be amazed at the dumb questions people ask the Fryette team :)
The only dumb question is the one you never asked.
@@Joe-mz6dcapparently Peter here never asks dumb questions. What a stupid comment . It tells a lot about him.
Not everyone is an equipment/gear expert. What may seem easy or obvious to you is not so obvious to everyone else. This is just a hobby for a lot of people not their profession
Thanks to the creator for breaking this down with no tacky up selling.