The phrase "Guild Champion" refers to a cycle of legendary creatures that aren't the Guildmasters. Teysa is an example of this in Guildpact. Djinn Illuminatus is not the Izzet Champion; that would be Tibor and Lumia. The Gruul "Champion" isn't an official guild member, because Ulasht the Hate Seed is too wild. It counts as their champion because it's wild fury is something that they can aspire to.
Now in 2018 very few series measure up to the quality of The Magic Show. These were amazing back then, and still are now. Enjoying rewatching before Guilds of Ravnica prerelease. Cheers Mr. Erwin!
Screw you Evan, the Nephilims are really popular in the EDH community. "We" have been asking wizards for years to errata them to legendary creatures, but so far without success. Great video, thank you so much for doing this series.
Evan this episode, like the set it covers, was a faithful and interesting followthough to the one before it. That said, a little more content would have been nice - in particular context for the pro tour moment showcased, and perhaps a few more cards. But, the editing on this video wason point. The pictures were beautiful and beautifully suited to what you were saying, and th3ir timing and placement were perfect. So this was a very nice and good video. Thank you for making itl
Interesting point: Abe Sargent got REALLY, REALLY upset about the Nephilim cycle, because of the name, and wrote an interesting diatribe on them. I think he was overreacting at the time. When I get around to covering this set in my series, I will have a ton of interesting things to say about the Nephilim. Yes, I am very glad that you put the Craig Jones clip in. Randy's reaction was a classic. As usual, superlative work.
Wow. That Abe Sargent fellow is a fucking pansy. "Oh boo hoo. An obscure mythical creature from my religion was featured in a trading card game. What a tragedy."
Eh, I don't think it's any of my business (or yours) telling him he doesn't have the prerogative to have that reaction. Magic has had people find some of its tropes offensive. And while I don't see it the same way, who am I or you to say what they should think? We aren't pure people of ration.
japaneli No. Instead we should tolerate morons & their idiosyncratic hypersensitive "feewings" trite. As I recall, his complaint was that Nephilim are obscure & specific figures in an active religion. Okay. Did he get pissed off at Kamigawa? Kamigawa had Shinto & Buddhist shite up the arse. If he didn't then it's just more Christian shite about how they should be treated special because they believe some shite about a creating deity...just like damn near every person ever.
I think that there are differences between being principled and being rational. Abe was being principled. That's how I saw his position, rather than being irrational. He found that the idea of raiding Jewish apocrypha was offensive. I don't hold to his principles the same way that he does, but I have a pluralistic perspective. I don't have all the answers, and I don't claim to have them, either. And I am not willing to hold principles as inherently irrational or idiotic, except if they hurt others. And I don't think that Jewish apocryphal interpretations hurt anyone. (I don't have any interest in discussing how other faiths interpret those apocrypha, seeing as how I don't have any particular interest in those faiths.) It's like Madonna cherry-picking Kabbalah to him. It's an issue of cultural appropriation. I don't see it the same way, but if that's how he thinks about it, I respect his position, even if I don't hold it. I'm not telling you to embrace his position, either. I just try to acknowledge people's feelings and think that we should note objections.
Still very boring, and isn't the only one of its kind. Precursor Golem would also do that same thing for golems, but it would at least give you two after hitting the field.
The phrase "Guild Champion" refers to a cycle of legendary creatures that aren't the Guildmasters. Teysa is an example of this in Guildpact. Djinn Illuminatus is not the Izzet Champion; that would be Tibor and Lumia. The Gruul "Champion" isn't an official guild member, because Ulasht the Hate Seed is too wild. It counts as their champion because it's wild fury is something that they can aspire to.
That vintage magic win was beautiful
"OHH MY GHOOD IT'S LIGHTNING HELIX!"
Love this series. Nothing better on UA-cam. Period.
Please more Forgotten Lores. These are pretty much best content in UA-cam!
Evan, would you make a Return to Ravnica Forgotten Lore episode? Looking forward to the Dissension episode!
Just a quick comment while I remember it. In Niv-Mizzets text the " sign can mean that it is a number. So "Niv-Mizzet = number 1" ;)
Very fitting for his Egomania ^^
definitely one of my favorite little shows on youtube
Now in 2018 very few series measure up to the quality of The Magic Show. These were amazing back then, and still are now. Enjoying rewatching before Guilds of Ravnica prerelease. Cheers Mr. Erwin!
Great Series. This was a a set I never played. Weirds have always been one of my favorite creatures.
Still the best series on UA-cam. Good work Evan :)
yay, keep up the awesome work evan and crew. you make magic better
Thanx I'm too far from states to help but I love every episode Evan !
The wait was worthy! Nice one!
i unsubbed most magic channels, fucking pack openings. Well not this one :) great content !
Love this show cause i wasn't playing at the time and i love the lore of magic.
Sweet Job on this episode! Now we are getting to my fav RAKDOS! All hail DEMON LORD RAKDOS!
my favorite set ever!
These are done extremely well. Very informative and detailed. Great job!
Screw you Evan, the Nephilims are really popular in the EDH community. "We" have been asking wizards for years to errata them to legendary creatures, but so far without success.
Great video, thank you so much for doing this series.
9:48 "relegated", not "regulated"
Using a sketch instead of the card art for Agrus Kos after he died was a nice touch.
Please make more of these. :)
As always a really great video!
Tibor and Lumia are the izzet guild champions. Not djinn illuminatus
Evan this episode, like the set it covers, was a faithful and interesting followthough to the one before it. That said, a little more content would have been nice - in particular context for the pro tour moment showcased, and perhaps a few more cards. But, the editing on this video wason point. The pictures were beautiful and beautifully suited to what you were saying, and th3ir timing and placement were perfect. So this was a very nice and good video. Thank you for making itl
Interesting point: Abe Sargent got REALLY, REALLY upset about the Nephilim cycle, because of the name, and wrote an interesting diatribe on them. I think he was overreacting at the time. When I get around to covering this set in my series, I will have a ton of interesting things to say about the Nephilim.
Yes, I am very glad that you put the Craig Jones clip in. Randy's reaction was a classic.
As usual, superlative work.
Wow. That Abe Sargent fellow is a fucking pansy. "Oh boo hoo. An obscure mythical creature from my religion was featured in a trading card game. What a tragedy."
Eh, I don't think it's any of my business (or yours) telling him he doesn't have the prerogative to have that reaction. Magic has had people find some of its tropes offensive. And while I don't see it the same way, who am I or you to say what they should think? We aren't pure people of ration.
japaneli And you're saying that we should just embrace irrational & idiotic behavior instead of trying to better ourselves & think?
japaneli No. Instead we should tolerate morons & their idiosyncratic hypersensitive "feewings" trite. As I recall, his complaint was that Nephilim are obscure & specific figures in an active religion. Okay. Did he get pissed off at Kamigawa? Kamigawa had Shinto & Buddhist shite up the arse. If he didn't then it's just more Christian shite about how they should be treated special because they believe some shite about a creating deity...just like damn near every person ever.
I think that there are differences between being principled and being rational. Abe was being principled. That's how I saw his position, rather than being irrational. He found that the idea of raiding Jewish apocrypha was offensive. I don't hold to his principles the same way that he does, but I have a pluralistic perspective. I don't have all the answers, and I don't claim to have them, either. And I am not willing to hold principles as inherently irrational or idiotic, except if they hurt others. And I don't think that Jewish apocryphal interpretations hurt anyone. (I don't have any interest in discussing how other faiths interpret those apocrypha, seeing as how I don't have any particular interest in those faiths.)
It's like Madonna cherry-picking Kabbalah to him. It's an issue of cultural appropriation. I don't see it the same way, but if that's how he thinks about it, I respect his position, even if I don't hold it. I'm not telling you to embrace his position, either. I just try to acknowledge people's feelings and think that we should note objections.
MOAR PLZ, GUD SIRR
Dijin iluminatus is no the Izzet Champion. Thats an error on the this lore epissode. It is Tiborn and Lumia.
Ink-Treader Nephilim, in my opinion, is the coolest creature ever designed.
Still very boring, and isn't the only one of its kind. Precursor Golem would also do that same thing for golems, but it would at least give you two after hitting the field.
I hope you make videos like this for Return to Ravnica too.
Come on guys, can you please just do dissension as well? That would be so damn awesome! :)
when are we gonna get the ascension part of the ravnica block?
Warhammer Beastman sees Grull Clans: Finally Manthings that understand how the world really works.
It was my understanding that Tibor and Lumia were the champion
Gelectrode is still my favorite card.
NICE!
No mention of the magemark cycle? My commander deck wouldn't be what it is without the white, black, and blue magemarks.
Where is the video for the last block of Ravnica?
Keep this up Evan! Everyone should just donate $1 to Evan so he can keep doing these. What is $1?
Forgotten Lore: Dissension WHEN, Evan!?!?
OP will surely deliver
And then I did ;) ua-cam.com/video/2Jd46aQn7GA/v-deo.html
Weren't the guild champs of Izzet Tibor and Lumia? O.o
OMG YESSSA
Still waiting for Dissension :)
I personally think haunt is amazing.
Orzhov Euthanist and Carom FTW
Nooooo, I hoped to watch Dissension right after this =(
15k years old megalomaniac hehe
Dissencion?
MORE!!! :V
Where are Forgotten Lore: Dissension?
I guess they forgot.
Orzhov, greed is god.
Leyline cycle was such a bad and gamebreaking idea...
did you guys die?
le izzètte
144p
IZ-zet not iz-ZET. Pls
i couldnt finish the video because the way he pronounced izzet is horrible sounding to my ears
Yeah, like, obviously it should rhyme with "Mizzet"
Niv Mizzet, Parun of Izzet.
For Shizzle My Nizzle