Wow, you really cooked on this one. The editing was by FAR the best I've ever seen from you. Hoping you continue down this path, it makes the video watching experience so much more enjoyable while still maintaining that "BadSeed" feel. The headset itself is a bit scary price wise, but damn the performance is clearly there. I also love that you contextualized this headset alongside other fan favorites in its range. Answers the "this or that" question that users are certainly going to ask when looking at this headset. Love it You went off, great work man. Top shelf
For real. How Brian doesn't have AT LEAST 500k subs is beyond me! The production quality is better than some channels twice his size. I've been watching for at least 3-4 years now, and the glow up is insane.
Insanely good video B! Really enjoyed this new style you brought in this edit, feels refreshing for sure. Good to see turtle beach get seriously back into the audio game and bring a heavy hitter with these. Price is a bit hefty but seems like its worth it for someone who does switch from console to PC often. Great breakdown!
Thank you for the most informative video on not only the Maxwell and Arctis but more specifically the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro. This is by far the best video on UA-cam for anyone considering the Stealth Pro. I recently purchased my Stealth Pro headset and was looking for EQ settings for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and Warzone 2 but I learned so much more that I did not know about the Stealth Pro headset! Thanks again for all the info, I know it takes a lot of time and effort to research these products and produce and edit these videos. You are very much appreciated!
Great video. I'm gonna HAVE to get the Maxwell. GadgetryTech mentioned, that music through bluetooth and game sound from PS, could be done if the headset was connected to the controller - you'd lose the microphone though.
Love to include the fact about the software, I absolutely hate Steelseries' software it was the reason I returned the nova pros. I don't want to have something running in the background processing my sound while I play. I want to set it up and then disable the software.
i just bought the stealth pro and nova pro to do a side by side comparison. The stealth pros win by a long shot, better overall quality of music (mid range) ‘where the nova lacks, the imaging on the stealth pro is the best i’ve ever heard and i’ve been using steelseries since the siberia 840s, the grandfather of the arctis line. although i do think the functionality of the nova pros are much more refined and the comfort is marginally better, i just don’t think it’s worth it for me as i’m a console player and can’t utilize sonar, the stealth pros are a godsend for footsteps tracking so if you are looking for a competitive advantage, go turtle beach!
Sonar is now available for console users. Arctis has step by step instructions on their site. I still think I may wait for the Sony Pulse Elites with the Planar drivers.
I've got an older Turtle Beach Stealth 450. The headband broke at the right ear. This is a very common failure mode, and I was able to get it back together with some 3D printed parts. It's not great, and will fail again at some point, so I'm looking to replace them eventually. I primarily use a standalone mic (HyperX QuadCast), and prefer wireless but don't really care about Bluetooth. I actually like the virtual surround stuff on the Stealth 450. It's a DTS X virtual 7.1 setup. It may just be that I'm very used to it, but it's really easy for me to pickup sound and direction in games. At work I've got a SteelSeries Arctis of some sort. I really like the "air weave cushion" or whatever ear cups. I also like the ski goggle headband, but that's in comparison to the busted headband on the Stealth 450. I've been looking at the Arctis 7X as a replacement, but so far I haven't pulled the trigger. I don't know if the flagship $300+ models from any brand make sense to me, but I'm also not sure if the Arctis 7X is the right choice (at around $150, I think) I'm absolutely willing to spend more on quality, and I'd focus more on build quality, comfort, and audio quality with an emphasis on games (and a focus on good spatial presentation). The dual simultaneous wireless / chat mix, wired + wireless, ANC, and other features don't mean much for me. The replaceable batteries are huge, though. Any advice?
I have been scratching my head for days trying to decide, thank you! I rarely, if ever listen to music with headphones. I only play Apex and Fortnite and I play on Console. Turtle Beach it is! SUBSCRIBED
I can't imagine paying that much for the Turtle Beach brand, but that's the power of decades of marketing I guess. Hard to see them as anything but makers of tat.
Insane review as usual B, I´m not even interested in getting headphones (very happy with my senn HD 560s) but here I am. I´ve seen you have done the review of the steel series speakers, any intention of doing more speakers review? it would make sense to have some in your channel as you are a sound lover. If you are open to suggestions, Ediffier MR4 for a good budget option (they look fantastic) You had the iLoud micro monitors, but I´m not sure if you did review of those. I have them and love them. Spanish hugs and kisses from the UK!
Just want to let everyone know that there’s currently a hardware issue with the flip to mute setting on the stealth pros. Googled it and it’s a very common issue. Such great sound on the headset but just poor build quality when it comes to the flip to mute setting on the headset.
@@rainmakerhd6959 superb. the detail in the sound and accuracy of footstep directions in FPS definitely gives me an upper hand. highly recommend getting the wicked cushion cool gel ear pads for them as they are super comfy and reduce that stickiness you get with faux leather
@@rainmakerhd6959 they are good. the directional audio for footsteps is the best ive experienced. however, the controls are weird, the headset is heavy and the bluetooth crashes sometimes leaving loud high pitched crackles in your ear requiring a headset restart. I eventually sent them back due to a bluetooth bug setting my phone volume to max every time they connected. TB support were unable to fix it. I now have a set of Steel Series Nova pro wireless, which are more comfy, a better setup, but not quite got the footstep position accuracy of the TB headset.
Hey Brian. Awesome video as usual. Just curious, with so many good headphones and headsets available to you, what do you tend to use for audio during video calls?
What you are talking about with hearing the foot steps directions, I feel like that can happen with any headset with surround audio. Kind of pushing something that is a weak argument but good video overall.
I had a pair of wireless turtle beach surround sound wireless back in the 360 days & the imaging even back then was insane & i can confirm what he says about the imaging, they have worked out the sound frequencies used by cod & the “superheating” i think is tuned for teenage ears because i remember it working back then also. they were essentially wall hacks in battlefield 3/4 too.
I actually prefer the Maxwell mic. I still rock my Sennheiser and to me, that mic sounds better than everything in this video, but I guess that's what you get when you give up a wired model.
I had both the Maxwell and Stealth Pros at the same time. I keep seeing reviews stating the "imaging" on Stealth pros are better than the Maxwells. I can in my own experience say that the statement is NOT true. Neither headset has discernible differences in games when it comes to "imaging". Seems like the reviews are mixing up imaging with sound signatures/EQ. So they believe they are experiencing better imaging with Stealth Pros when its primarily due to the fact you hear less of the frequencies that are unassociated with footsteps such as less sub bass and lack of brilliance in treble. What IS true that most reviewers state, is in regards to the Maxwells having superior audio quality. That statement is instantaneously noticeable when gaming/listening to music/movies. The Stealth Pros sounds tinny and hollow in games when comparing to the Maxwells, in music the clarity is bar none better. The Maxwells just sounds cleaner more precise and just plain more vibrant due to those reasons. I kept the maxwells.
@@jasminahmetovic140 the only issue I have is the sidetone static. Otherwise no issues, build quality is better than other headsets in this price range.
What I dont get for years is why headphones for 400$ cannot put it high quality mic.... Why C-TECH can do this for 25$ with probably best mic on gaming headset? Why Beyerdynamic for 125$ can do it and have absolutely crystal clear mic. Audeze with years of high-end sound comes with not bad mic I guess but do you want something like this for this money? Same for other headsets...
@@Fishing-In-Japan thats not entirely true. Maxwells have wifi dongle so enough bandwidth for both. You actually dont need that much of bandwidth for audio overall. Second thing is they can run over the USB-C cable too but thats not making them somehow better in mic so even dongle wouldnt be enough, cable for sure would.
Quick question. Going from a TB Stealth 700 gen 2 (used it for four years) to a Stealth Pro. Is there difference in game audio significant? The complaints about mics stop working worry me though.
The mic still sounds pretty cheap but this seems like a really solid headset overall. Probably wouldn’t replace my Moondrop VOIDs and Blue Yeti for normal PC use but simultaneous Bluetooth would be sick ngl.
I love this headset up till the last week when the left ear speakers ack like it loses connection have to tap the speaker a couple time then it starts 3a working till I move my head the wrong way and have to tap it again.
when is alienware ultrawide video coming out? I have both the lg and the samsung oiled c8 in house but Im hesitant on which one to keep, if price is no object lg was 690 and c8 830... I usually play comp fps but RDR2 looks amazing on ultrawide... And I havent been able to test the extra hz online since my internet has been down
I’ve had a few gaming headsets and they all sound ass compared, last set I had was a few years ago done arctis pro wireless, they were so bad compared I thought I’d try dt900pro x, the difference was game changing for me. I would love to go wireless though, how would these compared to dt900 pro x?
Man I just got my Maxwell today. So stoked on the build quality. Audeze stood behind there product though. They replaced my mobius three times cause they snapped. Then this last time they sent me a Maxwell. Love it
Yeah, I damaged the planar driver in the left ear of my maxwells, and they replaced them for free even though it was out of warranty. Great company from my experience.
I will never buy another Tuttle Beach product because they REFUSED to sell me a two dollar part to fix a set of 200 headphones. Logitech, not only sent me parts - for free - and also sent me a $10 voucher for any other Logitech product.
I tried the turtle beach stealth pro and they were great and clear but I ended up returning them. I just received the Audeze Maxwell for my xbox and man, the sound is phenomenal and I can hear footsteps and other sounds that I have never heard before.
@@bullitt8986bro I’m a R6 player and I need the best headset for hearing footsteps I mean when they crouch or they break barricades and … I want the best headset. Do you have any recommendations? Right now I’m using Steelseries arctis pro wireless but I think it’s not that good to hear every sounds in the game
Wow, Brian, you continue to bring the house with each and every video! You seriously dominate with the quality of your videos. The editing is just perfection that you somehow manage to top time and again. And your reviews are seriously top notch. My favorite thing about your reviews is you continue to tie in and compare to previous devices you've reviewed and alter your ranking accordingly all the while dropping little updates to those previous reviews as you learn, change your mind, or the product/software updates in some way. It's really hard to express just how good a job you do on each and every video. God tier, bro!
ALWAYS love your attention to detail Badseed. I feel like I've learned all I need to know if I should ever need one of these sets, or even when I go to try any other headset I'll know what to look for. Great work.
The Stealth Pro seems to fit EXACTLY what I'm looking for in a wireless gaming headset. I plan to use this headset primarily for Call of Duty and the thing I need the most is the ability to sound whore or pinpoint the source of gunshots and enemy footsteps so I can react quicker, music quality, eq, and all the other little stuff doesn't matter as much to me, I just need a headset that gives me the highest quality sound for gaming, bonus points for being glasses friendly as well. Now I just need to see a comparison between Astro A50 vs Stealth Pro.
If imaging and soundstage are important to you, just get a regular pair of audiophile headphones. $20 Koss KSC75’s crap on wireless “gaming” headphones. They’re also great for glasses
You won't be disappointed I use mine on the ps5, Xbox and pc. Games music and movies every day since they released & they are definitely worth it I got the Xbox version so I could use them on the ps5 too & it's worth every bit of the $360 I spent!
I really feel when it comes to gaming headsets, there should be two different lists. One for competitive and another for immersion. Competitive, hence the name, gives better feedback as to the imaging of footsteps and the shots while immersion is for a theater like experience for single player games that helps with explosions and surround sound bass.
So I had to rewatch this video as my son was looking into some good headphones to use with his Xbox and PS5. This was a great comparison and as he is using this for both consoles and his cellphone he went with the Turtle Beach headset. He has had it for 1 day now and he is enjoying it. Thanks for the in depth review and the comparison. I was going to have him look into the Steel Series headset and remembered that you did this video. It really helped his decision. Keep up the good work!
Ive had my Maxwell's for only a few days now and all the negative things you said about the software have been fixed. The EQ works perfectly from the PC app now I can adjust it to my liking and it hasnt crash or reverted to default at all. Everything just works and the sound is on another level and the other two headsets shouldn't even be considered in conversation with the Maxwell. Sound quality above all everything else is just a bonus after that. Atmos works well with Overwatch I can pin point enemies location and makes the game feel more open.
I would usually go for these higher end models. But I just got the Cloud II wireless on sale for $60 and that might be the best deal I’ve ever gotten on a gaming product. I think I might be set. Still enjoyed the review though!
Great video and quite accurate on the info. I would slightly clarify your remark about swapping batteries on the Stealth Pro though. There is no manual intervention required outside just physically changing the batteries. The headphones power back on automatically and is ready for sound after about 6 seconds. As for sound quality, I am in no way shape or form anything close to an audiophile but you are quite correct that the Maxwell sounds better than either of the others. However, if I were grading them on a scale of overall musical sound quality vs positional sound quality in games, the distance in accuracy for the Stealth Pro is greater than the distance in music quality for the Maxwell. Then again, that could just be my untrained ear for music quality. As for the Nova's, I just hated the way they fit. They annoyed me to no end.
I have the Arctis Nova Pro with the wicked cushions replacements. It is the most comfortable headset I've ever used out of the couple dozen I've tried. Without the wicked cushions though, the Nova Pro hurts the ears after awhile.
I got mine at the end of April & use them for everything games movies & music. I'm using them right now watching this video while I play gta 5 waiting for my brother to join my session. I love them!
Im definitely considering this headset. Thanks for the review. For me the non simultaneous bluetooth kills me for maxwell…I was also burned by the penrose
I am not sure if you get the whole picture. The Maxwell can connect your phone and your Dongle at the same time, but it can only play one of them. So if you are gaming and get a phone call, the Maxwell will switch to the phone and afterwards back to the dongle. I think it is important what you want to do. If you are listening to music or audiobooks while playing, that won't work.
And maxwell would cost me 120€ more with worse performance in gaming. No, thanks audeze. I guess the Pulse elite will be the better value with planar magnetic drivers and simultaneous Bluetooth
I would definitely love to see a comparison from you about the 2023 blackshark v2s versus these headphones. I'm looking to buy some and I'm debating between the blackshark and the nova pro (wired). I currently own the wired Arctis Pro so im not sure on what to go with. I'm not particular attached to these so i have no qualms about switching brands, just want a headset with good sound and a good mic.
Mic hands down best "gaming" headset microphone on the newest Blackshark. I hope other companies follow suit, the mic quality on it shows these headsets like this don't end to be dog shit. I.mean studio mic is just exponentially better and will last years, so not debatable but if someone wants the next best thing on a "gaming" headset the 2023 backshark mic hands down.
Not *always* the case (like Arctis Nova Pro Wireless for example) Companies’ licensing agreements often prevent them from stating that the Xbox versions are sometimes also compatible with PS5. Never the other way around though.
I have the Arctis Nova Pros and I wish I had my money back, I will never buy a headset again, my Truthear Crinacle Zeros sound better, are more comfortable and they cost way less.
interesting take, thank you for sharing. what do you do as for the mic? I mean, SteelSeries has a terrible one, which we already know, but what was your solution for the mic in your case?
As someone who uses only "audiophile grade" headphones and IEMs, you have me SERIOUSLY considering trying out the Maxwell. I have always been intrigued about having a wireless headphone when I play games, and this may just be the time to try it. Thanks for the vid man!
I was pleasantly surprised by the Maxwell. I own a AKG 701 but it doesn't sound as good as the Maxwell. What blows me away every time is the detail even at the highest volume. Highly recommended!
I used to own astros a50 mic went out I will say they sounds about the same but you get more features on the turtle beach plus you can custom the EQ from your phone
I and many others have had issues where the settings do not save on the Stealth Pro. It’s one of the reasons why I returned it. Love your reviews and it’s awesome you give Joe a shout out.
yeah it totally destroys a product. i just returned the razer v2 pro 2023's due to the mic monitoring disrupting the balance, the sound only comes out the left ear piece when you enable mic monitoring...
My Arctis Nova Pro Wireless so far is horrible, even after being properly EQ’d. It’s horrible for music, it’s good for gaming, but it seriously lacks the punch and bass that I was expecting when it comes to things like deep sound or explosions. The Wicked Cushion Freeze Pads width place my eardrums further from the drivers which makes the bass worse is my guess. I should try the stock pads again and see if the bass is better but then you risk the ANC nipples poking your ears (depends on the person). The sidetone from the microphone got nerfed in a firmware update 8 months ago and was never fixed, even on high you can barely hear yourself. The ANC and transparency modes are mediocre, you can barely tell the difference whether they are on or off. And lastly, the GameDAC knob makes a crackling sound when controlling volume on the actual DAC. I got it four days ago and am about to return it and just go back to my Roccat 7.1 Elo Air because that’s how unimpressed I am with spending $350 dollars on the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless. How did a product like the Steel Series Siberia V2, 15 years ago, sound better than than the newest top of the line product? Blows my mind.
I find it both funny and sad that my Nova Pro wireless headset sounds the same as the SteelSeries 7H I used to wear back in the days of playing CS1.6 with my buddies. We used to rock Siberia's neckband, then 5Hv2, and then 7H, and finally Siberia v2, which was the best of the lot. Even the microphone on Siberia v2 was much better than what I have now. It's sad that all of this happened because the company was just trying to stay alive by switching hands between L Catterton, Axcel and now GN, while maintaining margins through R&D
Nobody ever mention how headphones (no matter if they are wired or wireless) sound for MOVIES and MIXING (not a studio grade level more like mixing audio as a video editor freelancer). I want my headset to sound amazing with movies/series, good enough with mixing so that I know 90% of people could enjoy what I create without thinking it sounds weird or too bassy or too agressive on the high end etc., great with music and good enough with music.
One thing worth mentioning is the Xbox version of the Turtle Beach works perfectly and fully wirelessly on both Series X and PS5 by just switching the slider. One of the only headsets that does it (and why I sold my old steel series to buy it)
i bought my nova pros thanks to your reviews- they're pretty great but steelseeries sonar is a buggy hot mess, forcing you to use their virtual audio devices as windows default, none of which can be turned off
Can someone help me please? I play R6 and right now I’m using Steelseries arctis pro wireless but I think it’s no as good as stealth pro. Also, I’m confused which brand or model of headset should I buy to hear exact footsteps sounds. Low volume in R6 in so important I mean when the enemy crouch or prone or breaking barricade from bottom floor and etc. Any recommendations guys?
Hey guys I have a question about Maxwell gaming headsets. It looks like they have personalized spatial audio? Is that correct? Like how Creative does with their SXFI app and taking pics of your face and ears? I think Apple is doing that now too with their new headphones.
I think you should split the geming part in 2. FPS Competitive and story/adventure games. For example i never play FPS games only story games like Uncharted, TLOU, on this what headset is best?
Just found your channel because i am looking for new headphones / headsets.. I want something new besides my MMX300 and DT 770 Pro. Very nice content! And damn.. that beard is GODLIKE.
I had tested them both. Imo I like the sound from the Arctis nova pro better. I like how it’s a little litter and microphone can be retractable back into the headset . I bought the Steelseris arctis nova pro .
I bought the Maxwell because of the great wireless range, then returned it because that only applies to receiving sound not sending. My mic would cut out 5 ft from my computer, so you can't have a conversation with any more freedom than a wired headset. Also the software still sucks.
I just got the Steelseries headset and was dissapointed, ive messed with the EQ for hours and havent gotten anything good for how i like my games to sound. Thanks for this review just oreder the other 2 headsets to try and im def returning the Steelseries. Good video brother 👍🏻👍🏻
I loved my stealth pros right up to the point that within 3 months the mic gave out and turtle beach warranty refused to return my email or answer the phone. They lost my business.
My main concern with the maxwells is the weight. I only play single player games so i want a headset for that and the maxwells sound like thats it. But then the weight comes in to play. The stealth pros sre allready chunky enough.
Fantastic video and great editing work here. I just ordered the Maxwell and sending back the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless I got last week. Fingers crossed but your video confirms I probably made the right decision between the Stealth Pro and the Maxwell!
Wow, you really cooked on this one. The editing was by FAR the best I've ever seen from you. Hoping you continue down this path, it makes the video watching experience so much more enjoyable while still maintaining that "BadSeed" feel.
The headset itself is a bit scary price wise, but damn the performance is clearly there. I also love that you contextualized this headset alongside other fan favorites in its range. Answers the "this or that" question that users are certainly going to ask when looking at this headset. Love it
You went off, great work man. Top shelf
Appreciate you man. 🤝
@@badseedtech We appreciate you more !
For real. How Brian doesn't have AT LEAST 500k subs is beyond me! The production quality is better than some channels twice his size. I've been watching for at least 3-4 years now, and the glow up is insane.
Insanely good video B! Really enjoyed this new style you brought in this edit, feels refreshing for sure. Good to see turtle beach get seriously back into the audio game and bring a heavy hitter with these. Price is a bit hefty but seems like its worth it for someone who does switch from console to PC often. Great breakdown!
Thank you for the most informative video on not only the Maxwell and Arctis but more specifically the Turtle Beach Stealth Pro. This is by far the best video on UA-cam for anyone considering the Stealth Pro. I recently purchased my Stealth Pro headset and was looking for EQ settings for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and Warzone 2 but I learned so much more that I did not know about the Stealth Pro headset! Thanks again for all the info, I know it takes a lot of time and effort to research these products and produce and edit these videos. You are very much appreciated!
Thanks man! Really appreciate the kind words!
You still got the Stealth Pro?
I would definitely pick the maxwell if I ever need a wireless headset
would be a waste for me as i have sony xm5's for music - chose the stealth pro's over the maxwells for this reason
You’re the best reviewer around and it’s not even close. Thank you for your insight!
The battery swap is a game changer. I can't even consider anything else after using the Arctis Pro Wireless for the last three years.
Great video. I'm gonna HAVE to get the Maxwell. GadgetryTech mentioned, that music through bluetooth and game sound from PS, could be done if the headset was connected to the controller - you'd lose the microphone though.
Love to include the fact about the software, I absolutely hate Steelseries' software it was the reason I returned the nova pros. I don't want to have something running in the background processing my sound while I play. I want to set it up and then disable the software.
The suspension headband set up on the old elites was king in comfort.
For $300 they should have that.
i just bought the stealth pro and nova pro to do a side by side comparison. The stealth pros win by a long shot, better overall quality of music (mid range) ‘where the nova lacks, the imaging on the stealth pro is the best i’ve ever heard and i’ve been using steelseries since the siberia 840s, the grandfather of the arctis line. although i do think the functionality of the nova pros are much more refined and the comfort is marginally better, i just don’t think it’s worth it for me as i’m a console player and can’t utilize sonar, the stealth pros are a godsend for footsteps tracking so if you are looking for a competitive advantage, go turtle beach!
Sonar is now available for console users. Arctis has step by step instructions on their site. I still think I may wait for the Sony Pulse Elites with the Planar drivers.
Turtle Beach Stealth Pro's just landed at almost all online and retail outlets for $299 for both Xbox and PlayStation versions. Just a heads up.
Glad I stumbled across your video. Amazing job. Look forward to checking out more of your content.
I've got an older Turtle Beach Stealth 450. The headband broke at the right ear. This is a very common failure mode, and I was able to get it back together with some 3D printed parts. It's not great, and will fail again at some point, so I'm looking to replace them eventually.
I primarily use a standalone mic (HyperX QuadCast), and prefer wireless but don't really care about Bluetooth.
I actually like the virtual surround stuff on the Stealth 450. It's a DTS X virtual 7.1 setup. It may just be that I'm very used to it, but it's really easy for me to pickup sound and direction in games.
At work I've got a SteelSeries Arctis of some sort. I really like the "air weave cushion" or whatever ear cups. I also like the ski goggle headband, but that's in comparison to the busted headband on the Stealth 450.
I've been looking at the Arctis 7X as a replacement, but so far I haven't pulled the trigger. I don't know if the flagship $300+ models from any brand make sense to me, but I'm also not sure if the Arctis 7X is the right choice (at around $150, I think)
I'm absolutely willing to spend more on quality, and I'd focus more on build quality, comfort, and audio quality with an emphasis on games (and a focus on good spatial presentation). The dual simultaneous wireless / chat mix, wired + wireless, ANC, and other features don't mean much for me. The replaceable batteries are huge, though.
Any advice?
That clear pulsar x2 a man of culture ❤😂love the vids man
I have been scratching my head for days trying to decide, thank you! I rarely, if ever listen to music with headphones. I only play Apex and Fortnite and I play on Console. Turtle Beach it is! SUBSCRIBED
Absolutely love your vids man! Top notch info n very well done! Ty!!
Stealth Pro's for the win!!
Geez, the boom mic sounds amazing for a headset mic.
Always a good review. Thanks - you always weigh heavily on my purchase decisions
I can't imagine paying that much for the Turtle Beach brand, but that's the power of decades of marketing I guess. Hard to see them as anything but makers of tat.
Insane review as usual B, I´m not even interested in getting headphones (very happy with my senn HD 560s) but here I am. I´ve seen you have done the review of the steel series speakers, any intention of doing more speakers review? it would make sense to have some in your channel as you are a sound lover. If you are open to suggestions, Ediffier MR4 for a good budget option (they look fantastic) You had the iLoud micro monitors, but I´m not sure if you did review of those. I have them and love them.
Spanish hugs and kisses from the UK!
Just want to let everyone know that there’s currently a hardware issue with the flip to mute setting on the stealth pros. Googled it and it’s a very common issue. Such great sound on the headset but just poor build quality when it comes to the flip to mute setting on the headset.
Has been fix?
now that was thorough! pulling the trigger on the stealth pros, thanks for the info
How Are The headset?
@@rainmakerhd6959 superb. the detail in the sound and accuracy of footstep directions in FPS definitely gives me an upper hand. highly recommend getting the wicked cushion cool gel ear pads for them as they are super comfy and reduce that stickiness you get with faux leather
@@rainmakerhd6959 they are good. the directional audio for footsteps is the best ive experienced. however, the controls are weird, the headset is heavy and the bluetooth crashes sometimes leaving loud high pitched crackles in your ear requiring a headset restart. I eventually sent them back due to a bluetooth bug setting my phone volume to max every time they connected. TB support were unable to fix it. I now have a set of Steel Series Nova pro wireless, which are more comfy, a better setup, but not quite got the footstep position accuracy of the TB headset.
I bought the arctis and it is amazing!
Hey Brian. Awesome video as usual. Just curious, with so many good headphones and headsets available to you, what do you tend to use for audio during video calls?
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. That was my first Turtle Beach product.
Love your content!
Keep up the good work!
This was really stellar. Thank you!
The beard is amazing 👌
What you are talking about with hearing the foot steps directions, I feel like that can happen with any headset with surround audio. Kind of pushing something that is a weak argument but good video overall.
I had a pair of wireless turtle beach surround sound wireless back in the 360 days & the imaging even back then was insane & i can confirm what he says about the imaging, they have worked out the sound frequencies used by cod & the “superheating” i think is tuned for teenage ears because i remember it working back then also.
they were essentially wall hacks in battlefield 3/4 too.
I actually prefer the Maxwell mic. I still rock my Sennheiser and to me, that mic sounds better than everything in this video, but I guess that's what you get when you give up a wired model.
great review! thank you!
I had both the Maxwell and Stealth Pros at the same time. I keep seeing reviews stating the "imaging" on Stealth pros are better than the Maxwells. I can in my own experience say that the statement is NOT true. Neither headset has discernible differences in games when it comes to "imaging".
Seems like the reviews are mixing up imaging with sound signatures/EQ. So they believe they are experiencing better imaging with Stealth Pros when its primarily due to the fact you hear less of the frequencies that are unassociated with footsteps such as less sub bass and lack of brilliance in treble.
What IS true that most reviewers state, is in regards to the Maxwells having superior audio quality. That statement is instantaneously noticeable when gaming/listening to music/movies. The Stealth Pros sounds tinny and hollow in games when comparing to the Maxwells, in music the clarity is bar none better. The Maxwells just sounds cleaner more precise and just plain more vibrant due to those reasons.
I kept the maxwells.
Was thinking to buy audeze but I heard a lot of problems in audeze Reddit is it true?
@@jasminahmetovic140 the only issue I have is the sidetone static. Otherwise no issues, build quality is better than other headsets in this price range.
you forgot to mention that sonar with it features will work with other headsets too
What I dont get for years is why headphones for 400$ cannot put it high quality mic.... Why C-TECH can do this for 25$ with probably best mic on gaming headset? Why Beyerdynamic for 125$ can do it and have absolutely crystal clear mic. Audeze with years of high-end sound comes with not bad mic I guess but do you want something like this for this money? Same for other headsets...
@@Fishing-In-Japan thats not entirely true. Maxwells have wifi dongle so enough bandwidth for both. You actually dont need that much of bandwidth for audio overall. Second thing is they can run over the USB-C cable too but thats not making them somehow better in mic so even dongle wouldnt be enough, cable for sure would.
awesome thank you for the great info Mr. Beard
The steel series always crack where the ear cup and headband meet.. 3 different headsets all broke the same way
Not gonna lie, zero interest in buying any of these products, but I'm here all the same for the insane detail and editing skills. Keep it up man!
Quick question. Going from a TB Stealth 700 gen 2 (used it for four years) to a Stealth Pro. Is there difference in game audio significant? The complaints about mics stop working worry me though.
The mic still sounds pretty cheap but this seems like a really solid headset overall. Probably wouldn’t replace my Moondrop VOIDs and Blue Yeti for normal PC use but simultaneous Bluetooth would be sick ngl.
Tb stealth pros are worth every penny & yes I agree I love that I can connect Bluetooth while gaming for music or to talk on the phone.
Awesome and super helpful
Thank you badseed.
I love this headset up till the last week when the left ear speakers ack like it loses connection have to tap the speaker a couple time then it starts 3a working till I move my head the wrong way and have to tap it again.
Great video, well done.
Best reviewer ever seen!!
Which headset is the best for loud sound and very high bass???
now that sonar eq is also compatible with consoles as well, what are your reviews now of arctics nova pro and stealth pro on console?
Better then arctic 7 novas for imaging and directional positioning audio cues ?
when is alienware ultrawide video coming out? I have both the lg and the samsung oiled c8 in house but Im hesitant on which one to keep, if price is no object lg was 690 and c8 830... I usually play comp fps but RDR2 looks amazing on ultrawide... And I havent been able to test the extra hz online since my internet has been down
Would your decision change now that sonar is available to console at all?
it's funny but i like sound of stealth pro internal mic more than boom
Are you able to adjust EQ for the stealth pros for Warzone footsteps?
something something Gordon Ramcheeks (funny joke)
Question are these headsets compatible with xbox,PS5,switch and pc
Thank you for the video. If I ever decide to splurge on headphones I now have a much better idea of where to drop my 💵
Do you get iphone text notification sounds when using the dual 2.4 and Bluetooth connection?
Can you do a video for Xbox compatible wireless gaming headsets?
Do you have any wired gaming gear with a good music listing?
I’ve had a few gaming headsets and they all sound ass compared, last set I had was a few years ago done arctis pro wireless, they were so bad compared I thought I’d try dt900pro x, the difference was game changing for me. I would love to go wireless though, how would these compared to dt900 pro x?
Man I just got my Maxwell today. So stoked on the build quality. Audeze stood behind there product though. They replaced my mobius three times cause they snapped. Then this last time they sent me a Maxwell. Love it
i have the penrose and it snapped. but my warranty expired. hopefully audeze can get me a replacement still
Just ask them straight up if you can have a maxwell it worked for me and a friend of mine. my warranty was long gone. @@clave2049
y send my audeze maxwells back never buy from them ,and u got 3 with problems and never learn ? 😂😂😂
@tordatfalviciprian5775 I had 3 problems with the mobius not maxwell. Then they gave me maxwell for free when they came out. The maxwell are dope
Yeah, I damaged the planar driver in the left ear of my maxwells, and they replaced them for free even though it was out of warranty. Great company from my experience.
I will never buy another Tuttle Beach product because they REFUSED to sell me a two dollar part to fix a set of 200 headphones. Logitech, not only sent me parts - for free - and also sent me a $10 voucher for any other Logitech product.
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I tried the turtle beach stealth pro and they were great and clear but I ended up returning them. I just received the Audeze Maxwell for my xbox and man, the sound is phenomenal and I can hear footsteps and other sounds that I have never heard before.
So you couldn’t hear foot steps good with the stealth pro ?
@@LifeWithMadManWildBillim curious too
@@prexxzorstealth is way better for footsteps. I’ve had both.
@@bullitt8986 out of the box? or doing eq? if u did q could u share both bc i just bought to see which i like more
@@bullitt8986bro I’m a R6 player and I need the best headset for hearing footsteps I mean when they crouch or they break barricades and … I want the best headset. Do you have any recommendations? Right now I’m using Steelseries arctis pro wireless but I think it’s not that good to hear every sounds in the game
That "Get Settled In" was smoooooth
Wow, Brian, you continue to bring the house with each and every video! You seriously dominate with the quality of your videos. The editing is just perfection that you somehow manage to top time and again. And your reviews are seriously top notch. My favorite thing about your reviews is you continue to tie in and compare to previous devices you've reviewed and alter your ranking accordingly all the while dropping little updates to those previous reviews as you learn, change your mind, or the product/software updates in some way. It's really hard to express just how good a job you do on each and every video. God tier, bro!
ALWAYS love your attention to detail Badseed. I feel like I've learned all I need to know if I should ever need one of these sets, or even when I go to try any other headset I'll know what to look for. Great work.
The Stealth Pro seems to fit EXACTLY what I'm looking for in a wireless gaming headset. I plan to use this headset primarily for Call of Duty and the thing I need the most is the ability to sound whore or pinpoint the source of gunshots and enemy footsteps so I can react quicker, music quality, eq, and all the other little stuff doesn't matter as much to me, I just need a headset that gives me the highest quality sound for gaming, bonus points for being glasses friendly as well. Now I just need to see a comparison between Astro A50 vs Stealth Pro.
If imaging and soundstage are important to you, just get a regular pair of audiophile headphones. $20 Koss KSC75’s crap on wireless “gaming” headphones. They’re also great for glasses
Bro. I’m telling you order a sound blaster g3, a 10ft usb c, and the pc38x. 100% worth the cord. Prob like $150 total.
@@Bennyblades44 I agree Pc38x are good, and I personally like the Sennheiser 560s is even better
@@Bennyblades44doesn’t when for Xbox? The g3
You won't be disappointed I use mine on the ps5, Xbox and pc. Games music and movies every day since they released & they are definitely worth it I got the Xbox version so I could use them on the ps5 too & it's worth every bit of the $360 I spent!
I really feel when it comes to gaming headsets, there should be two different lists. One for competitive and another for immersion. Competitive, hence the name, gives better feedback as to the imaging of footsteps and the shots while immersion is for a theater like experience for single player games that helps with explosions and surround sound bass.
So I had to rewatch this video as my son was looking into some good headphones to use with his Xbox and PS5. This was a great comparison and as he is using this for both consoles and his cellphone he went with the Turtle Beach headset. He has had it for 1 day now and he is enjoying it. Thanks for the in depth review and the comparison. I was going to have him look into the Steel Series headset and remembered that you did this video. It really helped his decision. Keep up the good work!
Ive had my Maxwell's for only a few days now and all the negative things you said about the software have been fixed. The EQ works perfectly from the PC app now I can adjust it to my liking and it hasnt crash or reverted to default at all. Everything just works and the sound is on another level and the other two headsets shouldn't even be considered in conversation with the Maxwell. Sound quality above all everything else is just a bonus after that. Atmos works well with Overwatch I can pin point enemies location and makes the game feel more open.
I would usually go for these higher end models. But I just got the Cloud II wireless on sale for $60 and that might be the best deal I’ve ever gotten on a gaming product. I think I might be set. Still enjoyed the review though!
Dang that’s like 50% off. Who is running that sale
Great video and quite accurate on the info. I would slightly clarify your remark about swapping batteries on the Stealth Pro though. There is no manual intervention required outside just physically changing the batteries. The headphones power back on automatically and is ready for sound after about 6 seconds. As for sound quality, I am in no way shape or form anything close to an audiophile but you are quite correct that the Maxwell sounds better than either of the others. However, if I were grading them on a scale of overall musical sound quality vs positional sound quality in games, the distance in accuracy for the Stealth Pro is greater than the distance in music quality for the Maxwell. Then again, that could just be my untrained ear for music quality. As for the Nova's, I just hated the way they fit. They annoyed me to no end.
I have the Arctis Nova Pro with the wicked cushions replacements. It is the most comfortable headset I've ever used out of the couple dozen I've tried. Without the wicked cushions though, the Nova Pro hurts the ears after awhile.
Great headset by Turtle Beach 💪🥳👍. Great comparison between the major competitors too. It’s great to see TB bringing back sone of its A-game!
I got mine at the end of April & use them for everything games movies & music. I'm using them right now watching this video while I play gta 5 waiting for my brother to join my session. I love them!
I went with the Maxwell specifically for the same reason as yours. I want one headseat that could do it all. Music and games.
I always love a good comeback story. I haven’t heard of Turtle Beach in years, and even back then they weren’t very effective.
Im definitely considering this headset. Thanks for the review. For me the non simultaneous bluetooth kills me for maxwell…I was also burned by the penrose
I am not sure if you get the whole picture. The Maxwell can connect your phone and your Dongle at the same time, but it can only play one of them. So if you are gaming and get a phone call, the Maxwell will switch to the phone and afterwards back to the dongle. I think it is important what you want to do. If you are listening to music or audiobooks while playing, that won't work.
And maxwell would cost me 120€ more with worse performance in gaming. No, thanks audeze. I guess the Pulse elite will be the better value with planar magnetic drivers and simultaneous Bluetooth
I would definitely love to see a comparison from you about the 2023 blackshark v2s versus these headphones. I'm looking to buy some and I'm debating between the blackshark and the nova pro (wired). I currently own the wired Arctis Pro so im not sure on what to go with. I'm not particular attached to these so i have no qualms about switching brands, just want a headset with good sound and a good mic.
Mic hands down best "gaming" headset microphone on the newest Blackshark. I hope other companies follow suit, the mic quality on it shows these headsets like this don't end to be dog shit. I.mean studio mic is just exponentially better and will last years, so not debatable but if someone wants the next best thing on a "gaming" headset the 2023 backshark mic hands down.
Hi somehow I'm still struggling with headphones overall so which headphones is the good or best part like mic or ANC?
Great review and I really appreciate the comparisons between the three headsets. Definitely gonna be picking up the Maxwell one of these days
As a PC and console gamer, I just can't get over having to buy two headsets if I want Xbox AND PS support
Not *always* the case (like Arctis Nova Pro Wireless for example) Companies’ licensing agreements often prevent them from stating that the Xbox versions are sometimes also compatible with PS5. Never the other way around though.
I have the Arctis Nova Pros and I wish I had my money back, I will never buy a headset again, my Truthear Crinacle Zeros sound better, are more comfortable and they cost way less.
interesting take, thank you for sharing.
what do you do as for the mic? I mean, SteelSeries has a terrible one, which we already know, but what was your solution for the mic in your case?
As someone who uses only "audiophile grade" headphones and IEMs, you have me SERIOUSLY considering trying out the Maxwell. I have always been intrigued about having a wireless headphone when I play games, and this may just be the time to try it. Thanks for the vid man!
I was pleasantly surprised by the Maxwell. I own a AKG 701 but it doesn't sound as good as the Maxwell. What blows me away every time is the detail even at the highest volume. Highly recommended!
It's just inaccessible
@@christiansargent6053 You can now order for the January production cycle, it is a small company (less than 50 employees). 🤷♂
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I used to own astros a50 mic went out
I will say they sounds about the same but you get more features on the turtle beach plus you can custom the EQ from your phone
I and many others have had issues where the settings do not save on the Stealth Pro. It’s one of the reasons why I returned it. Love your reviews and it’s awesome you give Joe a shout out.
yeah it totally destroys a product. i just returned the razer v2 pro 2023's due to the mic monitoring disrupting the balance, the sound only comes out the left ear piece when you enable mic monitoring...
My Arctis Nova Pro Wireless so far is horrible, even after being properly EQ’d. It’s horrible for music, it’s good for gaming, but it seriously lacks the punch and bass that I was expecting when it comes to things like deep sound or explosions. The Wicked Cushion Freeze Pads width place my eardrums further from the drivers which makes the bass worse is my guess. I should try the stock pads again and see if the bass is better but then you risk the ANC nipples poking your ears (depends on the person). The sidetone from the microphone got nerfed in a firmware update 8 months ago and was never fixed, even on high you can barely hear yourself. The ANC and transparency modes are mediocre, you can barely tell the difference whether they are on or off. And lastly, the GameDAC knob makes a crackling sound when controlling volume on the actual DAC. I got it four days ago and am about to return it and just go back to my Roccat 7.1 Elo Air because that’s how unimpressed I am with spending $350 dollars on the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless. How did a product like the Steel Series Siberia V2, 15 years ago, sound better than than the newest top of the line product? Blows my mind.
I find it both funny and sad that my Nova Pro wireless headset sounds the same as the SteelSeries 7H I used to wear back in the days of playing CS1.6 with my buddies. We used to rock Siberia's neckband, then 5Hv2, and then 7H, and finally Siberia v2, which was the best of the lot. Even the microphone on Siberia v2 was much better than what I have now. It's sad that all of this happened because the company was just trying to stay alive by switching hands between L Catterton, Axcel and now GN, while maintaining margins through R&D
Nobody ever mention how headphones (no matter if they are wired or wireless) sound for MOVIES and MIXING (not a studio grade level more like mixing audio as a video editor freelancer). I want my headset to sound amazing with movies/series, good enough with mixing so that I know 90% of people could enjoy what I create without thinking it sounds weird or too bassy or too agressive on the high end etc., great with music and good enough with music.
This is the exact comparison I needed to finally decide to get the Maxwell over the Stealthpro, thx :)
One thing worth mentioning is the Xbox version of the Turtle Beach works perfectly and fully wirelessly on both Series X and PS5 by just switching the slider. One of the only headsets that does it (and why I sold my old steel series to buy it)
i bought my nova pros thanks to your reviews- they're pretty great but steelseeries sonar is a buggy hot mess, forcing you to use their virtual audio devices as windows default, none of which can be turned off
Wow the Maxwell mic sounds AMAZING when you move it to the side (for a gaming headset mic)
Can someone help me please?
I play R6 and right now I’m using Steelseries arctis pro wireless but I think it’s no as good as stealth pro.
Also, I’m confused which brand or model of headset should I buy to hear exact footsteps sounds. Low volume in R6 in so important I mean when the enemy crouch or prone or breaking barricade from bottom floor and etc.
Any recommendations guys?
Hey guys I have a question about Maxwell gaming headsets. It looks like they have personalized spatial audio? Is that correct? Like how Creative does with their SXFI app and taking pics of your face and ears? I think Apple is doing that now too with their new headphones.
I think you should split the geming part in 2. FPS Competitive and story/adventure games. For example i never play FPS games only story games like Uncharted, TLOU, on this what headset is best?
Just found your channel because i am looking for new headphones / headsets.. I want something new besides my MMX300 and DT 770 Pro.
Very nice content! And damn.. that beard is GODLIKE.
good video but the stealth pros eq is graphic not parametric. unless there is a way to adjust frequency/q values i dont see
I had tested them both. Imo I like the sound from the Arctis nova pro better. I like how it’s a little litter and microphone can be retractable back into the headset . I bought the Steelseris arctis nova pro .
I bought the Maxwell because of the great wireless range, then returned it because that only applies to receiving sound not sending. My mic would cut out 5 ft from my computer, so you can't have a conversation with any more freedom than a wired headset. Also the software still sucks.
I just got the Steelseries headset and was dissapointed, ive messed with the EQ for hours and havent gotten anything good for how i like my games to sound. Thanks for this review just oreder the other 2 headsets to try and im def returning the Steelseries. Good video brother 👍🏻👍🏻
So which one did you like? Maxwell or stealth pro?
Op pls respond
I loved my stealth pros right up to the point that within 3 months the mic gave out and turtle beach warranty refused to return my email or answer the phone. They lost my business.
am i the only one who thinks the built in mic sounds better than the detachable?
My main concern with the maxwells is the weight. I only play single player games so i want a headset for that and the maxwells sound like thats it. But then the weight comes in to play. The stealth pros sre allready chunky enough.
Fantastic video and great editing work here. I just ordered the Maxwell and sending back the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless I got last week. Fingers crossed but your video confirms I probably made the right decision between the Stealth Pro and the Maxwell!
Was it the correct decision after these past months?
@@thesaltyonion4899 1000% absolutely yes.