THE WORST SONGS OF THE 2000s? vol 4 (ft Fall Out Boy, Avenged Sevenfold, 18 Visions)
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2022
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Are these the worst songs of the 2000s? Find out if Fall Out Boy "Sugar We're Going Down," Paul Wall "Internet Going Nutz," Danity Kane "Showstopper," Eighteen Visions "Tonightless," Tatu "All The Things She Said," and Avenged Sevenfold "Beast And The Harlot" really are the worst songs of the 2000s.
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No
Avenged sevenfold were the last real rockstars.
I audibly groaned when the promotion cut into the fallout boy intro. Good work finn you got me.
average Crazy Town fan toying with our emotions
Agreed, what a jerk. Good promo tho.
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lol same
@@MAD_Villain1981 yes inside the inner monologue
Zacky in Avenged Sevenfold is the final boss of 2000's videos that is too powerful.
if we want rock and metal to come back what we need is for bands to roll out in the most questionable drip possible that their 7-year old selves thought was awesome with pure absolute confidence. so me a band where the bassist walks out with ostrich feathered wrist cuffs, a monocle and a damn trifold hat and I'll show you a fucking legend
Like a Guitar Hero character
Trust me I'll accomplish this mission
@@mr.bonez3150 exude pure chad energy
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA my guitar hero character looked so MySpace emo it was ridiculous, and I was completely convinced that was what I would look like when I was an adult (and a famous rock star, because every kid thinks they'll be a famous rock star one day)
Ok weeb
Finn, we need a “hell yeah brother 😎” rock playlist
Never really been a metal guy but City of Evil is such an awesome album. No skips imo
Zacky is also a lefty and just as talented as Gates on guitar so their dueling solos are SICK because when they stand next to ear other they literally mirror each other both headstocks go opposite directions it looks so fucking awesome
Well Zacky IS good, but he’s like a million levels below Syn, just because Syn’s so good...
@@noam.yuvalor1381totally agree. Maybe 3 or 4 guitarists are even near Syn
@@noam.yuvalor1381 Nah no bullshit, there's a lot more to guitar than lead lines and Zacky is legitimately looked up to by A LOT of your favorite guitarists.
The Rev wasn’t just a great drummer, but was a huge portion of their song writing, which is in my opinion why Hail to the King was such a step down. Took them a bit to get their writing back on track without him, with the exception of the songs about him
I always forget he wrote all of Nightmare with them, HTTK definitely was a bit of a step down. The stage was a great comeback though.
@@jacee8094 almost all of nightmare. They wrote a couple songs after he passed. Those songs hold quality because they’re written about Rev
Agreed
It never sounded the same and never will. You could tell what a massive part he was to the creation of those songs.
I liked Hail to the King. It's just a tribute album lol. I'm not really into A7X like that anyway. I can understand why their more devoted fans didn't like it.
Totally agree with t.A.T.u.'s problematic background and with even more awkward modern reincarnation. But ironically their old songs kinda became a symbol of lost freedom in Russia. In early 00's THAT video used to be shown quite often on ТV. Modern Russia (at least, russian politicians) has returned to mediaeval moral panic with suggestions to ban so-called LGBT propaganda.
It's wild that one of the members of Tatu is openly homophobic now, considering how progressive they seemed at the time even when it was all a gimmick.
Finn. Little by little ive grown to love these videos from Twitch. I love how you point out clothing trends from the 90s and 2000s like FOB’s singer hats lol . I laugh a lot 😂
Thank you!
The Anna from the OC reference was a deep cut haha. I love it.
You should watch the twitch if you haven't, it's even better
@@fourdoorsoup I work a lot. I wouldn’t have time. I enjoy these highlights 😊
@@corychecketts I had a big crush on that actress , I wonder where she is now 🤔
Dude I can’t agree with you more about Avenged sevenfold. What they did was incredible. I still measure every metal/metal core band to against them, and no one ever drives a song harder than they did then
Agreed beast and the harlot is actually one of my favorite songs
I believe my old friend Zach B. Was OBSESSED with Avenged Sevenfold in 2003 through till the last time I had seen him in 2009. I was into just Alternative/Punk Rock & a bit of Nu-Metal…when he heard the song “Beast and the Harlot” he brought over the album & I was BLOWN AWAY!!! A7X has My FULL RESPECT 🤘🏼😆🤘🏼
Those Paul Wall lyrics are too advanced!!! I just about fell out of my chair 😂😂😂. You are truly doing the lord’s work.
That song is sooo fucking ridiculous, when he gets into the computer lingo it makes you want to take a shower. "Download my computer love and get a taste of my hard drive" jesus christ Paul.
@@SoilentGr33n 🤣🤣🤣
@@SoilentGr33n Lol right! I was working from home on my laptop and just about lost it when this part came on. Never a dull moment in a Finn video!
Love seeing you get hyped about avenged sevenfold. Can’t wait until they release a new album and you get to make content on it.
I will say that seeing Bat Country and Beast and the Harlot as a young impressionable 13 year old really made me want this aesthetic non ironically. I was like this is it, I’m gonna get tatted and become a Chad guitar player like syn… then I realized how stupidly talented they are. I don’t know how they made an album like COE in their early 20s. It’s pretty ridiculous, not to mention how effortlessly they make it seem to play.
Good to see the 2000s 18V being mentione. I enjoyed that album a lot too. “victim” had that pinnacle buttrock riff I still blast.
I had the same experience haha Synester Gates was the reason I got into guitar in the first place and consequentially into other instruments; I also wanted to play with a fedora, long anime hair, and eyeliner just like he did.
When I saw Bat country for the first time as an innocent 12 year old, that rocked my world
Man I was 15 when COE came out and I played that record to death.
They also had really good engineers assisting them with their structuring and writing bro. They do all their own writing now but when your under a big record label like Warner brothers they do anything to get you to write a good record including bringing people in to help you with ideas.
yo same, i tried to learn guitar and did learn drums because of a7x despite already being very much into other big name bands in the metal-that-touches-on-butt-rock realm. nightmare was the first song i learned start to finish on drums, but i tried for years starting with beast and the harlot to learn guitar. just not a guitar gal i guess
I've only grown to appreciate Fall Out Boy in about the past year. When they came out I was bit amore closed minded about music and thought them only some sell out pop punk band. Now I think they are pretty catchy and fun to listen to as I've tried to drop my pretense about such things. I don't know anything beyond this album, but Sugar we're going down and the whole album is a good time.
Beast and the Harlot is still a good song. I had never heard of the other songs on the list. They didn't do anything for me. Kinda boring.
Their first album, Take This to Your Grave, is pure pop punk.
Same here. I was one of those guys who thought he was too cool to like shit like Fall Out Boy in high school lol. I basically hated on just about everything pop punk and emo when I was a teenager, but secretly loved a lot of it.
Fall out boy had the most cred out of any of those bands at the time… these guys came from killtheslavemaster , racetraitor , arma angelus , etc
Many songs up until their hiatus are really good imo, Infinity on high being my favourite of their albums. But rspecially the singles. Dance dance, The take over, This ain't a scene, Thnks fr th mmrs, I don't care - all incredibly catchy bangers. The albums tend to be a bit front-loaded, but the hits hit hard
Their fourth album is by far their best imo. Super underrated.
For FOB, Take this to Your Grave, From Under the Cork Tree, and Infinity on High are all classics. The opening track on IoH, Thriller, has a nice baby-breakdown for that hardcore throwback.
You have children of bodom “every time I die” in the background for a second and don’t acknowledge it?!
Finn I’m crushed 😔
Finn says he doesn't like melodic death metal but obviously he's listening to it, what a dick. That song slaps so hard that whenever it comes on at my house my 3 young daughters immediately start moshing
I swear All The Things She Said gets stuck in my head on a weekly basis even though I haven't listened to the song in like 20 years
The brunette from T.a.t.u. lives on my block in n-w Moscow. I meet her sometimes when she walks her chihuahua. She has hoarse voise as if she smokes 40 sigs a day.
Tatu is actually unironically my favorite band! I never gave a fuck about the fake lesbian school girls thing. Purely musically, they had a dark pop/rock that was unlike any other then and now. Finn i think if you would check out their very digestible discography on Spotify u may be at the least pleasantly surprised. Also Lena Katina, the redhead of the duo, is still in music and seems to be a pretty chill unproblematic mom type now.
Yeah I like their music too but their producer was REALLY abusive towards them to the point that Julia (the homophobic one) permanently damaged her voice.
@@kanjosidr Right. I'm roughly familiar with their career history and i forgot his name but he was definitely scummy. Ashame that a lotta scummy people are also talented artist. The way i see it, i can't -unlike- Tatu, wether it be the producers music or Lena and Yulia's vocals, despite the producer or Yulia taking a homophobic turn.
The amount of people that apparently didnt know about tatu is crazy. They were so incredible big in the early 2000s
Listen to Katy perry e.t. it's this song slowed down lol
As weird as the video is in some ways, I do love that at the end, they walk off together as the rain is stopping while the others end up being the ones behind a fence, just standing there all gloomy. The song and video were staples of my middle school years tbh, and I still like quite a few of their songs.
I haven't liked much of post-reunion Fall Out Boy unfortunately, but goddamn do those first 4 albums hold a very special place in my heart. I got into hardcore after pop punk and it was super cool to discover their hardcore roots. I still listen to Burn the Idol of the White Messiah pretty regularly.
Love to see 18V getting some love. I've been into them since Until the Ink Runs Out and have loved each era since. I miss 2006... 18V, Bleeding Through, A7X, Escape the Fate, and I Am Ghost... it'll never be the same.
"All the Things She Said" was written and produced by Trevor Horn, the guy who wrote and performed "Video Killed the Radio Star".
Unless you're Brian Johnson from AC/DC, leave the newsboy hat at home 😆
That avenged sevenfold song was way better than I remember. The chorus was beautiful. Had some weird parts, but it was overall endearing and fun.
thats the greatest thing about avenged, especially in city of evil, they were putting out songs with prog metal structure and a dozen of weird parts to the top metal hits every year
@@jimmytherev741 Amazing album
In high school I mainly listened to death metal and 90s rap but early fallout boy was always a guilty pleasure.
I like how you said ‘why would anyone call avenged sevenfold emo, they are like the most Chad band ever…’
That was exactly what I said to my mate in highschool😅😅😅
Consistently great content and commentary. Love it, dude!
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The first time I really got into Avenged Seven Fold was playing Beast and the Harlot on Guitar Hero 2. RIP Jimmy
18:27 All The Things She Said, the song is a banger with a darkness most pop songs at the time lacked and absolutely holds up (as do some other Tatu songs), whether the accompanying video holds up, I'm less sure about that.
Love these! These videos are always fun
That ad placement is dirty! Haha
The 2000s was an interesting time and had a lot of terrible music and trends. BUT the 2000s core will forever be missed!!
I don't want this one to be missed in the Chat above: Huntergather: "It's the Russian Kiss, like the French Kiss, but more communist" LOL
Racetraitor was pretty ahead of their time in terms of politics(not necessarily in a great way). I read somewhere that they would get in fistfights with other anti-racist bands for not doing enough about systemic racism and unconscious bias.
I loved Avenged Sevenfold but I remember a friend describing them as "motorcycle chase music" and it was hard to unhear.
Racetraitor sound like they must be a huge hit at parties. Honestly motorcycle chase music makes me love Avenged Sevenfold more lol
CoE is a masterpiece 🤘🏽 you’re damn right about the Rev but Brooks is so damn good!
Also nothing screams 2003 like A7X’s style lmao
Houston guy here. The Pall Wall lyric "She a Sophomore at TSU she run track that what it do"
TSU is Texas Southern University,a Black school located in 3rd ward next to the University of Houston. Never heard this song but it made me laugh hearing Finn recite this line about TSU.
I've met PW a few times and he's a super chi guy. Never too cool or busy to say hi and take a photo with his fans.
Nice to see you talk about eighteen visions. I saw them live around 2004 when they sounded like heavy emo.i remember talking to the singer for a while beforr they went on stage, cool dude. I had no idea they were super heavy in the 90s.
Some of the first videos he made on the prmba channel was all about 18v
Grew up listening to eighteen visions on atv offroad fury 3, 4, and burnout 3. Still arguably one of the most talented and best mixed bands in the scene. Victim and I Let Go definitely still hold up imo
I remember hearing Eighteen Visions from the Obsession album where they were kinda trying to bridge the gap between their hardcore sound and the butt rock style they were heading towards. As cheesy as the lyrics are, I'll still jam to Tower of Snakes every now and then.
I remember seeing Eighteen Visions play with From Autumn To Ashes and Atreyu in VA 2004ish(?).
Went with friends of friends, one broke up with their girlfriend and was given the ticket lol, but it was fun. Road tripped for several hours, saw the show, then immediately hit the road to go back home as they didn’t want me to feel uncomfortable or think of anything happening by getting a hotel room. Was an awesome experience as I had only been to X-Fest in Huntington, WV a few times prior. I started going to local shows and battle of the bands more after (saw ZAO several times that way).
I kinda’ miss that era with shows. Obviously I’m blinded by nostalgia, but they seemed more wholesome and fun to go to.
All 3 excellent bands
The funny thing about tatu is while one had become super alt right political voice for the goivernment, the other (Lena Katina) had advocated for LGBTQI+ rights. and as you can imagine the two do not speak to each other anymore, in fact they down right hate each other. :P
As a Texan and an H-town rap enjoyer, Paul Wall is GOAT’d
Bring back snap music and girl group RnB/pop. Finn you’re absolutely right. How could we forget Pussycat Dolls, SWV, Destiny’s Child. We thrived when that was popular
I am truly a music lover of all genres, as a composer for games I can find something to appreciate in almost anything even if it’s not for me.
But I’ve always, always hated Fallout Boy. Ive given them many chances to grow on me as my tastes have changed I’ve the years. But I find them unbearable to this day. Bottom 3 of all time for sure.
Even their old stuff 🤢
TATU - All the Things She Said was, and always will be, a certified Banger. The Russian original version is great, too (Ya Soshla S Uma)
I hate that the Beast and the Harlot video cuts the intro.
Also the video itself is kinda dumb, but the song itself is fucking sick!
Absolutely love the 2000s videos! Keep ‘em coming
I was and still am a huge 18V fan and I actually really dug the self titled album. It's like they tried to be the new Def Leppard while A7x tried to be G n R. It just didn't resonate for people like it did with Avenged. But I still love both those albums
These uploads are never boring, but this one was 💎. Music was 🔥🔥🔥 and Finn on point throughout. 🙌
All the Things She Said has this sick, desperate vibe that appeals to me as a metalhead, one of the few pop songs I listen to frequently.
Wow! I knew about Tatu’s song but didn’t know the story behind it. Yeaaaaaaa now it all makes sense. That’s creepy 😂 I feel exploited having just seen the video.
These videos always crack me the hell up. Thank you!
Eighteen Visions were/are the shit. Their self titled album back in 2005/6 was my favorite, but then the released a new album a few years ago that is hard as fuck. They went back to the heavy side.
Coma off their self titled is my favorite.
Pawl wawl baybeh the definition of playa
Totally underrated and under appreciated rapper. Ahead of his time too, spittin internet game in 2005 before tinder, dating apps and social media
I recently bought a mustang convertible that I back into parking spots with.
Avenged Sevenfold is one of the best metal bands of all time, I'm js. The entirety of City of Evil was God tier
Grand theft autumn / Where is your boy is the real Fallout boy breakout track.
Vanity was my fav 18V era. Obsession was awesome and self-titled had a few good songs but half of it was pretty corny. So glad they're back and kicking ass the old way.
Vanity is best.
Beast and the Harlot is what pushed me into Thrash Metal so I have fond memories of this song, also a lot of people probably got into this song because it was prominently in the video game Burnout Revenge. My personal favorite game in the series and had a lot of great music of the time
It was on one of the Guitar Hero games too
Eighteen visions self titled album was FIRE. And tonightless was dope for a softer song.
This is gonna be a long comment because this is my era here haha:
Sugar were going down: definitely still holds up to this day, their first album is my favorite album imo. Yeah you can’t really make out what Patrick is saying but that’s what makes it iconic.
Paul Wall: hahahahah I never knew that song hahah I mean Paul wall was one of the huge influences in the Houston rap scene that made that whole chopped and screwed sound style iconic with Houston rap, another one is Mike Jones. I like sittin sideways too I mean does it hold up? I mean I could see some guys who really like black girls might highlight this song on tik tok but no it don’t hold up haha
Dainty Kane: I liked Dainty Kane, it’s such a good song and yes it would hold up, I could see like 5th harmony putting this song out. This was such a banger, I loved this song and damage.
18 visions: never heard of them but ehhh I mean it might hold up idk
Al the things she said: I really like this song, idk haha. Does this song hold up? Maybe I could see like one of those weird pop artists singing this song like Claro or Mitski
A7X: YES! City of Evil was their best album! I had the hugest crush on M shadows when I first saw this video haha this was my favorite band when I was in middle school, well one of them because I loved this, Linkin Park, and Slipknot. Does it hold up? I’m gonna say yes and I acknowledge my bias haha
Hey Finn, you should really listen to the new I Prevail song 'Self-Destruction'. You've talked about how much you enjoyed the song 'Manic' by Wage War, it's pretty much this style and sounds fresh and new.
The P. Diddy comments aged like fine wine in todays news lol
V much agree that this was the best era of FOB. From Under The Cork Tree / Infinity on High / Take This To Your Grave were all 10/10, 0 skips
“Metal people, questionable judgment”…… 100% 🤣🤣
Cam’rons headwear holds up btw. He got the boosters boostin and he also got computers putin’
We're going down, down. Fliggle giggle around.
The main theme of Finn’s oeuvre is that he’s the guy who liked everything before it was cool. Much speck on his name.
You couldn't be more wrong, and who says "oeuvre"?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA I’m right. It’s literally something I notice in every video. I didn’t say it was a bad thing lol.
“Oeuvre” is a body of work. Vocabularies are cool.
I know what it means lol
I was at that exact same X-Fest Finn 😂
I believe that was my 21st birthday.
103.9 The X in Dayton is now a country music station.
This is the same era Fall Out Boy that sang “we’ve got such good fashion sense”
Love the content
yeah those turbo giga chads in a7x 1 million percent hold up, can you just imagine the bus loads of 10's they were pulling in this era. also that fall out boy song still fucking slaps and that album is decent but take this to your grave which came out before this is a certified fucking banger!
I so badly wanted my guitar tone to sound likes gates from best and the harlot until I realized that he recorded the lead part 4 times... I was able to achieve the crunchy bass sound but I could never get it to so as thick and full as his until they did that one breakdown video and I saw that he recorded lead 4 times... city of evil got me wanting to play guitar 16 years ago and still going strong.
Golly! (keeping it PG around here) I love these videos/livestreams
Impressed with your random MMA knowledge dropped throughout videos over the years I love it haha. Sage Northcutt is not a household name at all. I know you are a true fan!
I’ll always love a7x. Chads? Sure. But good lord could they write some good music. Waking the fallen, City of evil, self titled, all legendary albums. RIP the Rev.
The fact that Andrew Hurley is still xvx to this day is awesome as well
I think people who only compare FOB's newer work to their older work and base the quality on that are really missing out on some solid pop music. Hating pop for the sake of hating pop is sooooo ten years ago. Of course it's not everyone's taste and I can't hate on that but I think if more people listened to their post-hiatus albums without thinking about how much they miss 2007, they'll really enjoy what they hear. Heaven's Gate off the infamous Mania album is a truly beautiful song. In fact I really believe Patrick's incredible vocal talent thrives more out of the pop punk setting. A true soul voice! But all in all at the very least I'm happy with the fact nearly two decade old music still stands in today's sound. Truly timeless, despite the MUCH dated fashion sense.
Also slightly unrelated but Pete has the Vegan Reich logo tattooed fun fact. Awkwardly placed smack in the middle of his back. It was his first one when he was 14 or 15 I believe. Real commitment for someone who is no longer XVX lol
So I know you know a little something about Insane Clown Posse and Psychopathic Records but I'm wondering if you actually watched Big Money Hustlas the movie. Monoxide Child from Twiztid (matched up with Jamie Madrox of course) plays a character called Lil Poot who is basically a parody of white boy rappers. What's funny is that he really comes off like a parody of Paul Wall but I'm pretty sure the movie was actually made *before* Paul Wall came out (or at least got popular). It helps that they just regularly had a kind of similar look anyway and Monoxide's real name is Paul.
I'd pull up a clip of Big Stank and Lil Poot from Big Money Hustlas and just check it out.
Also, Sugar We're Going Down will probably hold up forever. It's legitimately great and I won't listen to anyone who says otherwise.
Danity Kane > Pussycat Dolls was not the take I was expecting to hear. But it's true 🤷♀️
On the hindsight yes, Danity Kane is better than Pussycat Dolls. At least each members of Danity Kane has their own lines in a song while PCD is just Nicole and Friends.
4:20 what's the name?
Tatu video is sesame street compared to WAP and any other female rapper’s music video now.
🤣 I love your commentary on these videos 🤣
I love A7x..amazing band
I like Fallout Boy's earlier stuff.. Their new stuff are hit or miss for me
I'm also an unironic fan of Paul Wall, more out of nostalgia for my high school friend group than anything but I just also like that era of rap in general. And I like some modern Fall Out Boy songs, once I made my peace with the fact that it's not trying to be a continuation of the old pop punk sound I really enjoyed Save Rock and Roll.
I’m here to challenge you for title of “Number One 18V Fan”.
But I remember seeing them in 2006 as a small teenage boy (looking like a teenage girl because it was 2006) and asking them “why didn’t you play any of the good songs?” and proceeded to name Until The Ink Runs Out songs and they were very not psyched.
Listening to you talk about Tatu I suddenly got a flashback to Shampoo. I only remember that one hit song, but it was kinda fire?
So happy you brought up X-Fest in Dayton, X-Fest 2010 was my first concert ever. Loved that festival, sad it went away
The movie hackers should have just been the Paul Wall video for an hour and a half
Everything Arma Angelus did was amazing. Their “Grave end of the Shovel” ep is easily one of my favorite releases ever.
Wow, never heard of Paul Wall, I am into metal, and I love this vid, hilarious
as somebody that grew up without knowing a single other person that had even heard of Eighteen Visions, it's fucking cool seeing you gush over them so hard.
real glad that a lot of people have come to realize just how influential that band was.
I was just listening to this video while I was working and as soon as Eighteen Visions was mentioned, my boyfriend goes “yeah cause Eighteen Visions was fucking tight”
like out of a dead silence. He’s 34 I’m 28 so they were a little before my time and he pulled up one of their early albums and we listened to it together lol
"P. Diddy did not seem like a great person". Yep.
Never got the hype for A7X. I don't get it but I just ignore them instead on trashing them.
Same
11:00 funny I asked myself that question recently, convertibles suddenly stopped being a thing
surprised you didn't choose Tower of Snakes from 18V that breakdown whew lol was a junior in HS when that song dropped so good lol
I was a junior is HS, too! I'm pretty sure that was the first time I had heard that kind of breakdown in a song and it will be stuck with me for life for that very reason 🤯
Papa Roach put out The Paramour Sessions album almost the same time that 18V went butt rock, thought they trying to copy each other at the time. 18V trying to sound like PPR, and Jacoby from PPR steal the look from James. They even look alot like each other lol
I remember when the beast and the harlot came out, I was in like 6th grade and my mom wouldn’t let me watch the music video because of the women in bikinis lol.
I was a VERY big fan of their album Obsession, which in my opinion was good from front to back. It was inbetween their deathcore albums and the self-titled. It was standard metalcore, but I was new to the genre at that time, and really loved it. Had Waiting for the Heavens, Tower of Snakes, I Let Go, etc. Very underrated album
and All The Things She Said is STILL a bop. Even though as a gay guy their statements about gay men pissed me the fuck off