Modern Trim for a Shower Niche
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2018
- Cut & install modern trim for a shower niche. Schluter Rondec
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Below are the links for the saw and metal blade to cut the trim profile:
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Which blade should I order to cut the metal edge trim? 80 or 100 tooth?
@@dannyaguado more teeth means finer/smoother cut, but is a little slower. go for 100tpi and wear ear muffs
The blade in the miter saw is 12 in. but the blade in the above link is 7-1/4 in. Can this (or my 10 in saw) take smaller blades?
I came here to ask this question. Thanks.
Thanks buddy, much appreciative of your dependability 👍
Lanberg is doing it all up to code 100% he even pushed in extra adhesive into the areas were he is going to insert his tile trims so there is absolutely no way the tiles or anything for that matter will be compromised he is an exceptional tiler so give him credit and praise for taking his personal time showing us these very helpful and insightful videos
I would install bottom first, then the back. Then any water that comes down the back is automatically directed onto the bottom piece and will flow out of the niche. You DON’T want a vertical surface meeting a horizontal surface where the water can go right into the grout line. Same for the bottom of the shower. Install your floor tile first, then do your walls so the water is coming down the wall right onto the sloped floor.
I was thinking the same thing, I wonder why he did it that way. And I've seen other videos where the installer did the same thing. I guess to cover the cut of the bottom edge of the back tile to give it a cleaner look? Still not worth it. I've seen shower floors fail for this reason. Everything should be done with water shed in mind.
I agree and I am no expert, but to seal that niche, the home owner will need alot of silicon, but as we all know that silicone will fail at some point and the home owner will probably not know that it failed until all the lower tiles fail. I am wondering if they could mig or tig the joints and have the bottom plate actually extend over the bottom metal so water never even hits it.
@@bs4760 He will use still the same amount of caulk. You should caulk every inner corner in wet places.
Caulk for effect over
True statement
A man after my heart! Been tiling since 1984…This is exactly how I’ve been doing it for years! You are spot on! I cut some 1/16 inch horse shoe spacers to lay under the metal and in the corners so it keeps us honest in all the joints…
I can tell a lot by this video how well your work is. That trim looks absolutely beautiful. I hate seeing sloppy tile work. Great job man. Compliments form a fellow tradesman.
Brother, you make the best videos - detailed, nice pace - never condescending.
Great work! Thank you for the upload and for answering the questions in the comments section. Very helpful for those of us that are ambitious enough to try this project ourselves!
Such a great video mate. I like how you are constantly explaining everything - especially the slight angle of the niche's bottom piece and how that effects the cut of the side tiles. Exactly what I was after. Thank you for making this video.
Yes sir, thank you! Appreciate the watch and comment 👊
Wish I had this video 7 years ago when I did my shower enclosure. Awesome.
Beautiful, best tutorial so far. I’ve been hesitating to start my tiling until I watched yours. The way to go with the Ron deck, and I love how all the tiles are aligned so nicely.
Glad it was helpful!
Looks great bro I’ve been doing this kind of work for 27 years and I still love doing this very satisfying when the cuts and corner metals come out nicely cut I got sertified with schluter in up in their home base in Pensilvania years back and love all their materials they make great stuff
I am wondering if there is concern with water ingress at the mitre joints of the trim? thoughts?
@@shawnlittle7207 I wonder the same thing. Did you ever get an answer to this?
@@shawnlittle7207 If there is any water penetration, it will naturally dry out as the substrate is kerdiboard (waterproof) and as long as that has been installed correctly, there shouldn't be any long term issues. Water can also be absorbed through grout lines but this will also naturally dry out after use.
Great job I have been messing around with different ways to install this profile for years. Finally see the light. Thanks,
Happy I can help!
I'm using quartz sills,and rondec on other 3 sides, led lighting...thanks helpful videos
I hope I can get this product. You've answered my question how to trim a niche. Very nice.
Yes love the way it all looks as long as everyone will do it correctly. Just like that. I see so many that are so screwed up it crazy how people install so many products in the wrong way.
Hacks saw with metal blade an minerbox works great also. Nice work buddy.
LAY OUT FOR THE NICHE CAME OUT GREAT MY FRIEND🤙🏽🙏💯
Thank you so much for all you do. Your video helped save me from a Shower Niche install FIASCO!! I wasted 4 tiles cutting what I thought I needed and the trim would not cooperate. After watching this and your other shower niche video, my problems all went away. I appreciate you! Happy New Year 2021! Keep up the great work!
Glad I could help!
@@LandbergTileTV great video ....quick question...... Does the Rondec rust?
@@bosshova23 no it will never rust
Nice job - clearly articulated and great tiling job!
Going to be using this edging on upcoming project. Thinking about first gluing all 4 edgies on with wedi sealant then tile over.
I don't even know how you can get 30 people disliking this I'm a tile guy with over 25 years exp and that is exactly how I do it also great instructions . I have watched alot of your videos I can truly say your a true tile professional
Thank you sir, that means a lot to me, appreciate the comment more than you know....👊
Because it goes against schluter’s installation instructions. It will fail because the mortar is pushed out of the way instead of imbedded like it calls for.
You can imagine how that mortar is pushed out of the way like Amy points out. So no tile adhesion on this edge. So in reality you have voids where water can pool and get behind the tiles more than if installed per Schluter instructions. The membrane should maintain water proof but this may be a mold growth site. It would be better if less voids at all in the thinset.
I agree and sometimes it is what it is in construction to get the job done right. If there was enough mortar there in the first place there would be no voids to worry about.
hard to believe 25 years exp and you dont see an issue here ,,fist the shelf should always go in first with the wall and side piece sitting on top of shelf eliminating an issue ,,second now you have water running off the shelf then it hits the seam /joint where tile and metal meet creating another issue ,,and this is the big one cause water will just sit on that grout joint break,, hello !!!!
You are a perfectionist. Great job!
I'm learning so much from these guys.
THANK YOU for this!!! One of the only in-depth UA-cam videos showing how to install a schluter profile while tiling a niche!! I can read all the instructions a hundred times over, I still learn more by seeing it done. I’m such a visual learner. So thank you, thank you, thank you for uploading this video!!!!
NativeNYerChicHK they just produced a great app that makes it easier to access their extensive, well-produced videos. Highly recommended. Happy tiling!
Professional, well explained no nonsense tutorial.
Using a miter saw to cut schluter trim seems like a very good idea. On my niches i usually install the bottom tile first and then the rest,i believe it seals it better,bottom tile then back one,sides and top
omi89 that’s the proper way
Shingle effect
Absolutely
im learning a lot , Thanks for sharing
That looks awesome, I like the way you guys use the most updated products available. Great tips and nice job as always.
Thank you sir! Always evolving 👊
You did a beautiful & accurate job!
Excellent method and explanation, thanks!
For the flow of water you install the inside bottom shelf first an after the back of the niche and the two side finish with the top inside
indeed ,,you and like two other people got it right,,,that is the right way,,and a flat grout joint is never a good idea ,,water needs to run off uninterrupted ,,
Steven Héon I was curious about that, since I am doing research on this for a home project, thanks for pointing this out.
But with that trim piece wouldnt it hold water either way?
@@Z-Ack These guys are talking about the bottom tile piece/shelf installed first, then back, etc.. But the tile should always be just slightly above the top of the trim. Looks/feels better and won’t hold water.
It might be over-kill, but I use a thin bead of silicone on the front edge of the shelf against the trim so there is no possibility of water going down that way.
Must say a very good idea for the trim, will definitely use it.
thank you!
It looks perfect! Your video's are awesome!
thanks!
As an Architect, I am always on a quest to learn...Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Very nice! Btw that laser is so great.
i saw on the schuter site they sell corner inserts to connect the pieces, either as inside or outside corners. but it looks like the miter is a good look and not too tough to pull off.
Extremely good step-by-step video, brother. Thanks a bunch.
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic !!!! Love it!
Nice job brother! Looks great! It's spooky just how identical your jobsites look to mine.
Flexvolt ftw!! Dewalt line green cross line laser ftw! LevTec ftw! Schluter ftw! You've got a whole lot of winning going on. Your installs are on point. I love it! 👊
Thank you buddy! appreciate the kind words👊
I wish I could show you a couple photos of the bad job my tiler did on the niche and the shower floor. The shower floor has to all come out, the metal AND tiles around the niche and window all have to be removed. Is there somewhere I can go in Toronto to have them cut me the right size in the schluter metal edging? How can I post photos on here? Thanks Mary
@@mj24672 Hi Mary, That's very unfortunate and I'm sorry to hear the bad news. No photo's posted here, simply information sharing. I hope my videos help you chose the right guys for the next job.
Mary Kane Any Tile store can cut tile for you if you give them the measurements. Home Depot and Lowe’s can as well but I would recommend going to an actual tile store over them to cut it.
Great details. Thank you
Very detailed and informative video.
Clean and well explained!
Excellent! Thank you for making this video!
thanks for the kind comment! 👊
Nice job. I just did one like this using a marble pencil tile as the border. It looks nice but sort of a Pia to install. They break really easy and they're around $12 each.
Yes sir, pencil is a pain in the neck sometimes. Thanks for the view and comment 👊
Looks awesome. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the view and comment!
Well, son of a niche! Outstanding!
That's funny...thanks for the watch!
haha
Hate how easy you guys make this look.. 👌
I have a quick question on my first time ever niche. Do I silicone the inside corners or grout them? I'm getting conflicting answers on here so I thought I would come to the expert! Thx so much!☺
Those grout lines along side the profiles are perfect. When using ceramic tile, the factory adhesive has a slight lower profile than the cut edge. It’s easy enough to use all factory edges inside the niche, but when doing a running bond pattern on the shower walls you will have the thicker cut and fed and possibly the factory edges along the same piece of profile. How do you make that look acceptable?
I love your videos they are great!!
Glad you like them!
Hey!It's sympathic to see how you work in America i'am a french tailer and i can tell you that you do a very good job!!
Thank you sir! 👊
Schöne Arbeit ! Clean Work Greatings from a German Tiler.
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you for video.
Beautiful job
is there a way to do an outside 45 angle cut on a corner tub where the tiles meet
extremely clean. love it! just wondering though about the miter joints of the rondek (not sure how to spell it) after install. I always use my yellow wedges form homedepot to space any niche profile edging so i can get some grout in there to prevent a dry bond where water could slowly seep in. Maybe you just silicone the joints ? let me know because if your confident in just sealing it afterwards with silicon then i will likely do the same in the future because of how clean it looks. i know also that it doesnt mater as much with everything topically water proofed either... but just an observation :)
I wonder how you would handle the spacing if you had a smaller niche (like 4” high x12”! Wide) right below the larger one.
Another Impressive video. Thanks man
You bet
Perfect job
How would you grout that metal corner to metal corner? Do you leave an equal amount of space for grout or clear caulk?
*Cool video DIY!💥👍*
I'm a installer for 15 years and I love my job I can say that I work just like the teacher..
I am wondering if there is any concern for water ingress at the mitre joints of the niche trim? thoughts
@@shawnlittle7207 it's all grouted then sealed, if a small amount of water does get through then it is all waterproofed behind the tile
Beautiful
Its modern but i like the bullnose. You made some sweet cuts, very nice..much better than ahhh just fill it with grout...beautiful when you take pride
Thank you sir, yes I love the tile life and take much pride! 👊 thanks for watching...
Good work
I love your show your the best
Well done looks clean brother!
Thanks 👍
nice job bro! imma try n see if i get the same result lol
Excellent job. Precisely detailed instructions. Thanks for posting.
Yes sir, thanks for watching 👊
You good working boy
Good job but if the beads are that tight how do you seal them
Very crisp work. Use razor blades as spacers, to maintain requirements at change of plane. Also can use wedge spacers + gorilla tape when adjusting posture of each inside panel of niche. Thinset holds air, so we recommend the use of a rubber mallet to knock the air pockets. Otherwise your trim and tile can sink overnight.
Awesome! 👍
Good job!!
So, this is s how i was going to do my niche, but all the videos I see, everyone puts the metal trim inside the niche, notnon the edges of the wall tiles....I think your method makes more sense. Are they both the right way??? Or is one way better than the other??
Could you have set the trim inside the niche then tiled instead of behind the tiles surrounding the niche. If not, why?
So you don't need inside corner peices they provide?
Last question, can you address gaps around g the edges of the tiles in the niche and whether to grout or caulk or grout and caulk, etc etc.... thanks
We always grout with no problems
Super clean , and dont you just love leveling spacers holding the top niche piece in place!! beats building a bridge and waiting for it to set overnight 👍🏼
Thank you sir! and yes it does help hold that baby in place! 👊👊👊
Good job.
It looks nice but .... I pretty much do it the same way but set the bottom tile first with 1/8 shim under the bask for forward pitch. Then put the back it. I personally want the water to shed downhill. Ur way there is a chance water can get in the back edge on bottom edge ... each their own ... just sharing. Thanks
Niche job!
curious when you do this do you go exact 45 or a little less or more as this never looks good for me and I usually go for a cope
edit: cope don't work for rondec tho
Hi bro beautiful how mil you take of when measur for cut trim be fit?
Sick!!!
I 100% agree this is a very nice job on the install. But not a very comprehensive how to.
Very nice work and slick looking trim. Thanks for the vid
Overall fine job and detail but I would lay bottom of the niche first and then the back so water always runs over tile rather than contacting corner joint if grout ever fails.
Good advice! 👊
Like the tile spaces,
thanks!
Just install bottom piece last with fall and no need to taper side cuts.
Don’t you want the water that runs down the side to fall more-so onto the surface of the bottom tile and then out, rather than down into a grouted tile gap? Doing the bottom first would put the grouted tile gap on the side instead. Or does it not matter?
I wouldn't grout it ,would silicone seal all perimeters ,
@@stephenc4161 thanks, great point
@@CalleyyyC no problems just what I found has worked best long term.
Ive always installed the bottom first, set the back in next then the sides and top that way everything sits on top of that bottom tile.. besides a pitch as small as what is needed for water roll out is like what 3°... so an angle grinder with a tile cutoff wheel works fine and can clean it up with onr of those knife sharpening stones for tile... my only concern for this video would be trying to set the bottom tile where its proud of the little lip thing he put on because i would imaging the tile would end up inside of that piece and just pooling up water because of that lip...
Looks good
thanks bud
Great video
I'm doing the same thing in my bathroom this weekend, but using the inside corners
Awesome, it's great trim! 👊
Great video
Thank you sir! 👊
Would like to give a Like to it, As 16 year aluminum tile trim manufacturer, would like to give sugguestion trim's packing would be best with transparent protective film on the trim surface, peel of the film afteer installation. More better on the trim surface itself
Awesome
Belo trabalho
Great video. Just wondering what stops the water from getting in the cut corner 45's?
The shower is always waterproofed before the tile.
Great.
Is there any reason you couldn't tile the entire inside of the niche first?