When To Apply Pre-Emergent To The Lawn | DIY Lawn Care Podcast
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2019
- This week we dial in soil temps across the country, explore more on pre-emergents and timing and answer your questions.
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Good stuff Allyn! “We don’t teach lawncare here, we preach it” 😂
This is a great podcast! 😎
Can we get it on Apple podcasts?
Lol.... I can get on board with that! 😂
@@mainnerd2222 its on iTunes, you can get it from there
Oh wow, I didn’t know that LCN follows this Lawns Across America guy. They should do a collaboration
@@mainnerd2222 yes here you go www.blubrry.com/lawnsacrossamerica/
Great job Allyn! Really appreciate the info. Keep 'em coming.
The GreenCast tip is on point.
Awesome podcast, bro! These are gonna be super helpful for this community and all DIYers. 👍
Sounds great and I look forward to starting. You speak fast at times and probably because you are so passionate about the subject matter.
Excellent information. This is extremely informative. Looking forward to more.
I'm loving the content and the concept of this..keep up the awesome work!!
I think you did a great job, great info and good sound. Didnt think you rambled. All good necessary info! Excited for the next one
Wow! Thanks for the video. I sent you an email a couple of days ago asking these exact questions before I was able to watch your video. Thanks so much for taking the time to help all of us, your teaching style is awesome & on point!
perfect! that is exactly why I like this format. because I get the same questions multiple times per week, this format helps me answer them all in one big long video lol
Great video. These podcasts are great and they are very informative. Live in the Philadelphia area and this past late July and then in mid August put down 2 apps of tenacity because I had enough of my yard being 70% crabgrass. Had unbelievable success, but next was the hard part digging up all the dead plants, filling them in and reseeding. My wife wasn't too happy with me for a few weeks until the grass started to grow. Had about 80-85% germination rate (used Scott's Penn Mix of KBG/PRG/Fine Fecsue mix) using all the nutrients you recommended, made sure to get all the leaves up in late fall, watered late and put down a winter fertilizer and the yard has looked great throughout winter.
I give this backstory as I I wasn't sure if I should reseed this upcoming spring to fill in those missed spots, but your video helped me realize that suppressing crabgrass is the most important thing I can do, when I should put the pre-emergent app down and what product I should use.
Looking forward to following your additional podcasts and continue to make my yard even better.
Great podcast. I liked it very much. This is the year that I will take back control of my lawn! Just waiting for my soil temps to raise a bit more here in central Oklahoma. Current 5-day average soil temp is 39 degrees.
Hi LCN. The beauty of it all is that with all the valuable information you give us we can come up with are own strategies. It’s mid March in western Pa now and I am going to seed. I am going to put down five light seedlings a week apart and hope for the best.
Thanks for the podcast bro always need something to listen to as I drive around.
I was on vacation when this came out. Just caught up. Great stuff. Awesome info. I like the podcast idea. Pro tip for coffee- 1/2 tsp milo and a drop or two of N-ext. it’s like bulletproof coffee only better
Great content, keep it up Allyn! My neighbors thank you!
Very good, Allyn. Valuable info (55, 65, 70, actual vs average soil temps, and greencastonline). As you take lawn care questions be sure to take some each time from each of the zones (cool season, transition, and warm season), if possible, so that all viewers can learn something for their zone. Good job! Keep them coming. If it's not "go time" yet where your viewers live then it will be soon and people need to be ready and prepared.
I say the sign off should be “I’ll see you in the lawn”... Don’t overthink it by changing it... It’s part of your brand, and we enjoy the LCN brand!! I would agree with the comment of chilling out a bit, having a more relaxed talk... Poolside, a view of the backyard, a corona, etc... Love the podcast, and the content!!!
Awesome...very informative. Thanks for all you put into these videos.
I listened to you last year and put down my granular pre-emergent just as the forsythia was starting to grow. It worked great, you wouldn't believe the difference in my lawn in the last two years. I got lots of help from the LCN!
Really good informative podcast. I love that tool for average soil temps!
Thanks for putting this up on UA-cam
Your last piece of advice really put me on the right track. I just didn't know where to start here in South East NC.
I’m looking forward to more of these.
Love this podcast keep it up, end with keep it green man!
I think you're doing great Allyn! Soil temps are 21° here in Clifton, KS 😞
If you live in the Midwest the GDD Tracker that Michigan State has is good for crabgrass pre timing. It should be ready for 2019 in another couple weeks.
Awesome info and great videos
Allyn, I like this format. You're doing a great job!
thanks bro!
Here in Salt Lake City we were poking fun at those that were in the polar vortex because we had 50 degree weather... Today, we had our first blizzard (lake affect) since over a decade. Jokes on us I guess. Wife was excited about spring almost being here. She was looking at flower bed designs and flowers she wants in the yard... next day, 3 feet of snow and still going haha.
I'm excited about the progress of the new Zoysia grass!!!
Hey Allyn, awesome UA-cam channel. Thank you for what you do for us lawn care nuts.
If I may give you a suggestion, it looks like you have a lot going on in your garage and rightfully so , but we can bearly see you.
Keep up the great work!
I liked that you went more in depth on the topics here. This podcast left me with a solid understanding and no further questions on the topic. I think a call in line would be neat, interviews with pros, or additional discussion on big level lawn care like at Wimbledon or Major League Baseball. Give homeowners a different perspective/appreciation. :-)
Sounds great like the addition of the visuals!
Baheeeaa😅.......
Astonishing at the amount and level of pure knowledge you tube dispenses to its viewers. I'm amazed that weeds are still a thang.
I think a whiteboard and some product pictures would help in the podcast. Kind of like in a classroom setting. JMO
Podcasts are built for audio only. More graphics/demos and you got yourself a full-on show. Don't get me wrong, I would love that, but nobody starts a podcast with the focus being on what you see.
Liked the pace of this Podcast 👍
Love the wealth of info! I wish I could get the free PDF - I sign up but never gets link or direction for the free. I watch/listen to these videos and podcasts many, many times over. Thanks bro
I thought I was going to see a video showing lawns across America at this point in time. That would be cool! Brown mix green here in CT
Awesome podcast! Good info!
So it sounds like the actual temps are good (compare shaded areas and full sun areas) but the averages weigh more. I guess temps need to be sustained at the milestones not just a day or two hits. Great job on getting the info out!
I've been monitoring my soil temps since mid January. Due to my soil temp averages I apply my pre-emergent on February 1. San Antonio soil temps average as of Feb 1 was 56 degrees!
Great stuff man been watching you for a while now. Possible just think adding timestamps in your description that relate to different questions from viewers or topics? Just a quality of life improvement. keep up the good work! *edit* Also if you reference an older video that you did, you could put up a link on the screen for us to click to take us to that video. May get a little more traffic that way as well.
Pendimethalin is in Lesco Pre-M 0-0-7. Just picked up 5 bags today from Site One.
For the Garden Grove dude (a few miles from me). Our 5 year soil average is 59F and 10 year is 58F for today. A window for our preemergent is mid to early January, then again in mid to late April. We hardly ever get below 50F for soil temps. However, I would wait to do anything until this barrage of rains we have been getting passes. We are getting another 4 to 5 days of rain next week and are having a cold spell right now with air temps in 60's during the day and high 30's/low 40's at night. Just last week we had 50+ nights and 75F days. So wait a week or two until the cold goes away and rains stop. Unlike Florida we get rain a few weeks a year and right now we are in the thick of it (we've had over 10 inches of rain the last few weeks). Also, Marathon is very popular here in Southern California (especially if you had sod put in, its very likely to be Marathon), its a dwarf tall fescue, it wont spread. So after you get your weeds under control you will have to overseed if you have it as your lawn (you can get it in 1lb or 5lb bucket for $10/$35 respectively at local stores... Lowes and Home Depot wont carry it, they carry other types of Tall Fescue/Bermuda/Ryegrass for our area, all inferior to Marathon IMO, Marathon is very drought resistant which is needed for our hot ass dry summers and has an amazing dark blue look, stays green year round... the only downside to it is that it doesnt spread, but less maintenance I guess, no thatch to worry about). Common weeds in our area are Oxalis (looks like clover), crabgrass and dandelions. Cities tend to use some sort of native grass (that will get wiped out like a weed by any weed control,) not sure what the grass type is, but it can also invade your lawn from city maintained islands and some people have it as their lawns (since it invaded long ago and killed their real lawn), it looks pretty decent (good thing is that weed control will kill it).
You are an encyclopaedia of knowledge Al. Thanks for sharing. That flamingo was damn interested in your podcast. 😁👍👍
he is lonely.
Easy , send him to Ben in Australia 🇦🇺 to be with his brother.
Great stuff!
Put out my Dimension (dithiopyre) two weeks ago. Unfortunately in SC you sometimes get a hot Jan and Feb so you gotta put it out really early. I already have a couple spots of Dallas Grass growing I'll have to dig up. Getting my Rotam ready for the ton of henbit and dandelion coming in.
Great learning thank you Lawn Care nut
I am 25 minutes north of Austin and we are sitting at 50.8 temp with a 5 year avg at 60.4. I laid down some Barricade. As I write this, we have snow flakes coming down, but not sticking. This Texas temp is crazy up and down. Thanks for the information.
Great job Allyn you might have to look into doing an hour show.
Great podcast! I'm still struggling with the conversions. Is there a site out there where I can reference the math? I can then put it in my journal. Keep up the good work and great info!!!
Awesome stuff
Love it. This will be my first spring but I’m going to skip preemergent this year. I just want to check out what I have going in regards to weeds and go post this year. I want to mow, water, aerate, fert , gypsum, Hume correctly. O and try and level ground. But I do want to watch and learn. Fall when I overseed I’ll try tenacity. I had POA and fairy ring issue last season so I’m curious what that will look like this year. I did a preemerge for POA I’ll see if that worked. Love your work I watch videos over and over. And your right it helps! Take care
good idea to take on bits and pieces as you go along and master each strategy along the way! good stuff!
Great job.
Hey Al. Love the podcast. Spring is creeping up on us and will be here before you know it. I know we're really going to be getting into Carbon X, and the Next products soon. Wondering if you'll be talking about incorporating a program that still contains Milo and Ringer while still using Carbon X. Just wondering because I'm preparing for the season.
Its taking a bit for me to remember the new name haha. I am like who is LAA then oh ya its you. Great sound and even though you have allot to say in a short time it works for me. Different angle for sure or if the mic size was a mini instead of maxi its covering you. Thanks again great info.
Thank you, good one
Hey LCN, Great Podcast - Always informative. Quick question about Prodiamine Split Application. If I do a split with 1st application (.18/1000 ) around March 25th and the 2nd application (.18/1000) around May 15th, will it be OK to throw down some seed from the Seed Super Store around the May 30th and beyond.? Or will that seed not germinate and grow because of the Prodiamine application ? I want to help the lawn convert from its current Fescue to a Turf Type Tall Fescue (Sod quality) lawn. Hope I'm being clear here
My one suggestion would be to cover northeast a bit more. Didnt really hear much in this vid. I understand the scope, but for you to validate what im thinking would be very helpful confidence wise.
I rennovated back in the fall. I have a few thin areas and bare spots. My plan was to throw down seed in the spring and tenacity. How could you use pre emergents when needing to seed? A timing thing or you can't do it? In Kentucky with tttf
Feedback....it did seem rushed. I don't know if you are in a hurry to get done, but we don't mind the lengthy videos. Chillax bro, and have a Corona and Arturo Fuente .... Saw gud!
I was late to this channel. Then I saw Allyn and I was ecstatic
welcome!
Awesome info!!! Thank you!
thanks bro
First and foremost, this Podcast was a solid 10/10! I literally listened to it on my way to work and once I got into the office, made so many 'new' notes for my Yard Journal. Secondly, this has to the be best pre-emergent DIY video I've ever seen. I wasn't confused on the pre-emergent process, but it cleared up a few questions I've always had. And not last but least, please continue these Podcasts as it was superb on every front and I do appreciate it! Btw, I'll just make one comment, since you talked about Austin, TX and I live in Dallas, TX. Regarding putting down disease control (right now), wouldn't it be best to wait until the temps rise a bit and there's activity in the lawn, such as the existence of non-dormant grass? Don't you want the grass to be a starter growth phase to apply? I don't think you need to pre-disease your lawn, but I could be totally incorrect. Thoughts?
if soil temps are nearing 65 the lawn is going to start growing and that means ok for disease control. if the lawn is still dormant, you are correct, no disease control yet! Great feedback also , thanks so much!!!
Not finished yet, but loving the blue bucket.
Houston, TX. Greencast showing 54.9 degree 10 year average. Prodiamine down on Bermuda today!
“Looks like a salad bar” literally my neighbors lawn!
Hey lawncare nut. I'm planning a renovation of my yard I currently have centepede. I reside in NC I'm going to plant KBG when do you think I need to seed my lawn. Thx...
wish someone did this type of video in aussie. you have different names for grass 👍
Good shown LCN.
Hey allyn i live in the central Florida area, when should I start applying pre emergent to my bahiagrass, also i have weeds can i treat that first? Or should i wait to apply the prodiamine to start killing the broadleaf and other weeds.
I'm wanting to fill in some thin areas of centipede. Will prodiamine prevent stolons from tacking down? Should I skip pre emergent ?
Al, great podcast!! Man I've been looking forward to this. I listened on my way into work this morning. I had to use UA-cam though, any idea on when you'll be on Stitcher? Also, how do we submit questions to you? Again.... awesome job!
questions can go right here! as far as where it' available, I am still pushing the feed everywhere I can.
Hey LCN I’m in Fort Worth tx. Was planning on putting pre m down this weekend, but our temps have been up and down . When is the right time ?
You reference split apps several times. Does that apply to granular and liquids? Or just liquids? Keep up the good work Allyn!
Good Podcast. I have been you for seven years. Have you given up on Lesco pre-emergent or is this a better product? By the way if I follow the average ground temp in St Charles Mo. My first app would be in the first or second week of April. Did I get that right? This is the first time using the soil temp maps.
How would you handle a back yard that has had emergency septic surgery (so much fun) but has to be seeded or there will be 100% weeds. I live in ga 55 will hit early March and I am looking to get the final grade on the 1000sf section this weekend weather permitting. I have thought about tenacity when seeding my tttf and throwing down crabx on the rest of the yard. Just trying to make the best of a bad situation.
When spring comes can I start with a Pre emergent then level my lawn with sand. Can these two step work together???
Awesome podcast! Love the extra time for content Podcast format allows vs. videos. Both have their use - both are great! This addition definitely strengthens the LCN game - great idea! Constructive feedback:
1. Sit down so we can feel more relaxed watching you - Lol. Get a bar stool if you want to keep the height.
2. You look like Wilson from Home Improvement. ;) Maybe find a less obtrusive pop filter and get a desktop mic vs. the boom? We like seeing you!
3. The garage setting is perfect. Maybe set up something a little more "tonight show" looking desk in there, but still very garage/basic feel to it? A small plywood/maple top for your tool box (removable), desktop mic, MacBook off to the side like you have now, bar stool behind the desk, desk top bottle mic, LCN mug visible, etc.
how long after germination (of desirable overseed grass) can you throw down preemergents? I threw down some overseeding seed a few weeks back when we were hitting 55F in Southern California. Its coming in gorgeously.. about 2 inches tall now... how soon can I put down preemergent for crabgrass?
Sunniland crabgrass preventer has dimension in it. Any thoughts on that?
Im in southern Oklahoma and the weather has still been fairly cool. I have a decent amount of cold weather weeds in my lawn (onion grass, henbit, ect.). Do i need to kill those weeds before I apply my liquid prodiamine or can i just throw it down and water it in?
Allyn, pendimethalin is easy to find in Lesco stuff at the big box stores, they just call it "Pre-M"...but the AI is pendimethalin. It's pretty cheap, but I get there are advantages to dithiopyr and prodiamine, just wanted to chime in.
I get some rescue grass is there anything I can do in the fall?
Evansville guy here!
I had avoided this video as I thought I had learned enough from many others, but you made a few points that helped me to better understand and clarify expectations. Thanks for that as every tidbit helps further the cause, ok my cause, but that is your point. My one criticism is I do not like that the mike and other items block your face and body language so much. I rather enjoy reading facial expression in order to see the passion or conviction. By the way I dig the older vids.
I went to just read types of pre- Emergents at Home Depot but none of them say “pre-emergents” that on the bags of weed control. Houston area zone 9A everything just says weed control
You did pretty good, the main thing I took away from it is base your actual soil temp to your historic soil temp, make sure the gap is close enough, then apply prodiamine. 👌All good👍👏
exactly!
@@Thelawncarenut I'm in Sumter SC and the greencastonline say 5yr average is soil temp 53.4 but current is 66...green light right?
What about pre-emergent and planting grass seed?
What pre-emgergent do you recommend for typical Texas lawn?
Good to live in Florida 😎
Great info Allyn! Loved the detail. My only suggestion would be to not cover your face. Other than that, this is going to be one of my top channels this season! Looking forward to more
I just put Prodiamine 65 WDG for fall do I need water it ligjt lightly?
Great podcast! The only part where you talked to much was when you spoke about talking too much! Haha. Please tell me there is a pre emergent to nutsedge!!!! That’s my killer. I’m hoping after my partial Reno with Pete’s tall fescue it will help. I’m on the lookout for your next email for the best granular pre emergent!!
And think about in the future of Maybe adding in a call in line.
yes for sure that is in the works!
@@Thelawncarenut ...or have a voicemail box where you can play back the questions during the podcast - provides a little more control, but still gets listeners more involved
Your sign off is easy..."So guys and gals, just go out there, Thrower down, and Enjoy the Mow."
@LawnsAcrossAmerica
Hey Allyn, love that you have this pod cast, looks and sounds great. (I did not wear headphones so cannot critic 100%) I digress. Any which way, I live in the transition zone, near Raleigh NC. I have zoysia in my front yard (unknown species) and my question is: should I burn it off or just cut it low? I struggled last year with the winter kill and spent most of the summer raking attempting to get it to thicken and green up. Any advice? At that time I did have a professional treat the yard and had to mow every other day to keep it below 4". It seems most happy around the 3-3.5" mark. No scalp marks and nice green color, and accepts stripes at that height with a rotary mower. I have been in the house for almost four years but only decided last year to become full fledged lawn care but. Any advice or maybe a subject you would be willing to speak on? Thanks! Keep up the great content!
you should work your zoysia down to 1.5" height of cut and keep it there. Go even down to 1" if you can over time. do that slowly over the next 5-6 weeks as it is coming out of dormancy
Excellent podcast! I thought you were reaching over to pet the flamingo, then you raised the coffee cup and I cracked up! I hope Connor appreciates the frequent fondling of the bird disguised as coffee drinking.
The camera distance and the large mic hides too much of your face, which doesn't give me the feeling that we're 'in this together' like the vids of 'us' walking through the lawn, or mowing, or mixing the ferts does. They were much more personal.
I used to wonder if Casey Neistat used a green screen or poster behind himself for his background. I figured he was sitting on his bed (or toilet) while making his vids and I was looking at a fake scene. His background just looked too 'New York' crammed with all kinds of things in a small place. Now he has multi angles from the room and I see its 3D. …….But then I wonder how cool it would be to see you sitting in the middle of a laboratory full of men in white coats rushing around with smoking lab tubes, and an occasional eruption or small explosion going on while you're explaining herbicides and antifungals . I've also been thinking how you could incorporate a fertility clinic background in your discussions of pre-emergent and the bio-stim pack!
I love the pronunciation of DYE-thiopyr and Pro-DYE-amine, it helps me easily remember what those are used for and I can impress any of the other customers standing next to me at the HD!
I think it would be hilarious to get some footage of you in an race official's hat with a starting gun superimposed into an dash race signaling the start or go time for various applications. There must be some movie clips of the words "GO! GO! GO!" in them that can be incorporated into the videos or podcasts. I'm sitting here laughing at the vision I have of you in my head with a setup like Jim Cramer's MAD MONEY, hitting buttons with sounds and clips of various things behind you. Hey, when it's not quite time to spray yet we see Manning yelling "OMAHA", then you know it's coming soon! Bawahahaha!
Did we change the name!? 🤣...I'll be in Ft Myers in May to see the parents, can I stop by to talk turf?
- Eric
Sounds good. Like the pace. Like the content. I could personally do with having the camera closer. Could also probably get the mic/pop filter off to the side a bit so we can see your whole face. Lastly, is that one of those reflection blocker things with the dominated sticker on? If so, it is very likely doing precisely nothing with where it's positioned relative to the microphone.
thank you!
What about surflan AS aka oryzalin