Is this the plumbers or the roofers fault?
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- On this new construction home inspection the plumber ran the vent pipe through the middle of the roof valley. Once viewing this from the attic access it was easy to understand how this happened. But it should have been corrected once the boot was installed and they saw the pipe was in the valley.
You don’t want any penetrations in a valley and certainly not a vent pipe.
City inspectors didn’t catch this and it wouldn’t have been caught without walking the roof or using a drone.
This is not a complex fix but needs repairs.
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I'm a licensed Plumbing and heating tech. That's the plumbers fault for throwing it there, inspectors fault for passing it, GCs fault for not catching it, it's the roofers fault for covering it. Lots of blame to go around.
Catching what? Where in the code is this prohibited?
@@coreyfranco7060 A corner collects and directs water onto the same path. This makes it go faster and have more pressure. That means more water squeezing itself into any leaks that form. A sealed hole like around the vent is still more vulnerable to leaks than shingles because the overlap of shingles prevents backflow, but the hole there does not. This makes it more likely for a leak to form in an area where leaks are more damaging. So, uh, common sense?
Who is the majority to blame in my opinion the inspector. He should have taken a look at that and said nope that needs to move
@@tastefulmemer4082municipal inspector responsibility is to assure a code compliant installation. This is not a violation in any way...
It’s their mom’s fault for smoking crack when she was pregnant.
Plumbers. He can literally see that he was going to be going into the valley of the roof when he made his penetration through the roof. But also the GC's fault for not catching it after it was done. Roofer should have WTF'd it too. IMO
The plumber is at fualt. The Plumber should be forced to relocte the vent pipe 2ft over and and update to plumbing should be added stating, no vent pipe shall be allowed to protrude through the valley of the roof.
Im from Baltimore City,
The blue prints were upside down when the construction was happening!! From Texas 🤠🤯🥳🤓
The roof was framed when the plumber put the vent in the valley. Why put the vent in the valley, offset it to either side
Plumber is at fault. Roofer didn’t do anything to help the matter as well though.
We could talk separately about the schools of thought for dealing with valleys.
One school is okay with the overlapping shingle valley.
Another insists on a metal trough valley.
There may be other methods.
At fault for what? What is the problem?
@@coreyfranco7060 The vent coming up in the valley of two roofs is a near guaranteed leak.
There will be so much water (and snow and ice in colder realms) channeled into that valley.
And the boots that normally prevent water ingress for those kind of pipes are made to apply against a single plane of roof, not be bent in the middle.
@@MonkeyJedi99lool at it, its off the the side of the valley and it definitely wont leak and furthermore its not a code violation. If someone wants it moved they can pay for it...
When people are getting paid by production, correcting other people’s mistakes takes money out of their own pockets. So a bad drawing leads to a misplaced vent and then a future roof leak. Who’s wrong? Everybody. Especially the plumbing inspection.
first ! it's the dumber plumber for doing it !
then ! its the roofer for letting it "STAY" in his valley !
I'm a roofer, I would hope a plumber would be taught to never run a vent through a valley
Plumber
As a roofing contractor no way would I warranty my roof with that pipe there.
Move it.
He must have just missed the valley rafter, or did he?
Yup, plumbers or planners.
Plans don't show every roof penetration. If the vent is coming up in that area below, it's easy to redirect in the attic.
The idiot plumber needs to move the vent pipe 🤦♂️
The roofer doesn't place the pipes... he does what he can to get watertight
Architect 🤷♂️
Plenty-O-Fault to go around
What do the plans show?
Plans wouldn't show it. Everyone knows plumbing needs a vent. The vents are easily directed in the attic.
that black gooey stuff in a bucket should work eh?
I agree that this plumbing vent should not be located in a valley ( ideally) however …., I don’t think there is a code for the placement of plumbing vents. …..hopefully they will move the vent and make the roofing repair
Leave it alone, its fine. No violation here.. Another drama queen inspector making stuff up...
If you want to be nitpicky code stipulates Jack has to be installed according to manufacturer which probably specifies a flat surface.
That said, roofer made the best of a bad situation. It could be worse…
@@rogerlew i dont believe it specifies
Always blame the architect who drafted the blueprints.
Yeah sure.
Plumber fault
How to make a 5 min 50 dollar job into a full job...
If common sense was a thing in construction then we wouldnt have to have inspections.
"common sense" is knowing your fingernails need trimmed. It is NOT knowing all the sometimes very complicated things that go into building a safe home, especially in today's world.
@DiahRhiaJones when you see a joist hanger without nails, or they cut a stud so short it doesn't even touch the ground, you think you need to know everything, or you just need some common sense?
@@EdwardM919 if someone is building a house for you and your family to live in, do you want them using "common sense" or do you want them to be held to a much higher standard than that?
@DiahRhiaJones anything would be better than the idiots in the construction industry now.
If I was any dumber I could be a plumber
As a roofing contractor no way would I warranty my roof with that pipe there.
Move it.
Why? Its not going to leak at all...
@@coreyfranco7060 when roofs leak it's at chimneys in the valley or pipe flanges.
@@coreyfranco7060 Not until it does, anyway.