Is Everyone Just Cheating In THE FINALS Season 4???

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  • @doctorevil444
    @doctorevil444 Місяць тому +40

    I'm concerned about actual cheaters using esp, aimbots and cronus because everyone uses a crosshair

    • @davidcorodeanu4535
      @davidcorodeanu4535 Місяць тому +4

      yes , this is a small issue , compared to the fact in half of the games you have a light player running around with aimbot , when his 20 hp he takes 300 more dmg to die and he has both dashes and grapple hook. over 30% of the playerbase cheats so getting a hacker every game is almost guaranteed + the matchmaking is sewer water and you get matched solo with lvl 10 noobs vs full diamond premade teams so yeah. what a fun game, have nice mechanics and everything but ruined by the community

    • @razagaming6884
      @razagaming6884 Місяць тому

      ​@@davidcorodeanu4535yea I was just playing and I got a player who was using medium and used Sherif pistol for gun and aim direct at head no matter how much far we were and on the first round he and his teammate who was also a hacker got 80 to 90 kills just 2 of them they had the cashout of 90k we qualified just for wiping out some player by 3k and where ever we spawn he was ready with and kill us like why are even there even though we won the tow round but in final round he was just killing us like we were some toys and his level was 9 with 6 matches and 200 kills

    • @turtleberries7530
      @turtleberries7530 18 днів тому

      I see people complaining about cheaters all over. However, in my over 1000 hours of playing since s1 I've only come across 2 blatant cheaters (I only remember 1 from s1, but I'm sure there was another) so I'm wondering if its only an EU servers things, since I play from Canada. I'm top 500 aswell, the only complaint about players I have is running into the same emerald world tour, amethyst win and kill badge kids I been playing against for the past month

  • @rPenek
    @rPenek Місяць тому +29

    In that video i expected to talk about actual cheaters like aimbotters, no recoil, wallhackers and not about something that barerly makes any diffrence.

    • @dunce7373
      @dunce7373 Місяць тому +1

      Oh but it does, static crosshair while ADS in this game actually makes a huge difference.

    • @davidcorodeanu4535
      @davidcorodeanu4535 Місяць тому

      yes , this is a small issue , compared to the fact in half of the games you have a light player running around with aimbot , when his 20 hp he takes 300 more dmg to die and he has both dashes and grapple hook. over 30% of the playerbase cheats so getting a hacker every game is almost guaranteed + the matchmaking is sewer water and you get matched solo with lvl 10 noobs vs full diamond premade teams so yeah. what a fun game, have nice mechanics and everything but ruined by the community

    • @rPenek
      @rPenek Місяць тому

      @@davidcorodeanu4535 well i wouldnt say soo, if you play ranked then it feels like 8% of getting a cheater and for pubs like 1% and also highter rank the highter chance of getting cheaters.

  • @Atom1cAtom
    @Atom1cAtom Місяць тому +9

    also just add a option to remove the red dot sights red dot so that its blank so that players can replace it with whatever custom crosshair they want

    • @gocrashbandoloot
      @gocrashbandoloot Місяць тому

      Yeah red dot customization would be nice especially if you can just simply go to settings and turn it on or off, shouldn’t be too difficult, I like how I customized my crosshair on console, if I could make it a smaller version of my customized crosshair for the red dot, that would be convenient

  • @Durzza
    @Durzza Місяць тому +5

    IT IS CHEATING, IT SHOULD B E CONSIDERED CHEATING
    THAT RECOIL IS THERE FOR ALL OF US TO OVERCOME NOT FOR SOME OF US TO TRURN ON A HARDWARE FEATURE TO OVERCOME IT
    i swear this new age of gamers is pathetic. they suck at gaming. thats what it HAS to be. ive never seen this many cheaters or this much cope IN MY LIFE.
    if you want a game that is more friendly to cheaters, go play black ops 6 or modern warefare 3. there are TONS but please stop advocating fori this game to be easzy.
    i can already get on light class and insta drop a 30 bomb while pretending im HIM and like its not the class being broken as fuck. why do we also need a center dot.

  • @manujk6802
    @manujk6802 Місяць тому +4

    I play for about 4 hours a day, and at the end of each session, I usually report 1 or 2 players for cheating, either with aimbot or wallhack. If they laser me too accurately from long range or show suspiciously high awareness (like with wallhacks), I report them. The next day, I often see the 'Thanks for your report' message on my screen.

  • @Dustygoodz
    @Dustygoodz Місяць тому +6

    Ive gamed for more than 20+ years competitively on shooter games and I can easily say the amount of cheaters there are now with god like aim shooting from 50+ yards or even upclose beaming you without missing a shot is just extremely unrealistic and it shows how many people are brainwashed thinking so many players are actually good when they aren’t.
    In THE FINALS it’s extremely easy to spot cheaters. They wear ONLY free items they received so if their account gets banned they dont lose money or they are a low level randomly generated name
    (UnusualTire)/or TEMP172038 w 50-150 wins and 1500-3000+ total kills with 10-20killed by the end of the match. They usually play light or medium class, if its light they rock m11, V95, or sniper. If its medium its Pike, AK,Model.
    Ever since FORTNITE took off and FaZe Jarvis exposed DMA cheats the WHOLE WORLD TOOK ADVANTAGE

    • @razagaming6884
      @razagaming6884 Місяць тому

      I just got the cheater with R 357 he was just killing everyone just like you described

    • @ozanokten9513
      @ozanokten9513 Місяць тому

      cheers to your comment brother! You literally described my feelings :) Embark do not want to solve the issue and we as community should flag this. It is really impossible to get rid of cheaters completely however there are alternative ways of preventing cheaters such as two step phone verification method to reduce account creation somehow. Embark does not care, just like most companies do, they jus want to sell skins to bang the buck. They even don't allow people showing off cheating software's on UA-cam so they immediately trademark it :) isn't that funny? This game won't have much to left unless if they don't take precaution at least showing off they do care a bit lol

    • @Origashi-pk8oy
      @Origashi-pk8oy 22 дні тому +1

      That and a lot of them never have the free progression items past lvl 20.

  • @Mario-v2p2g
    @Mario-v2p2g Місяць тому +1

    I would play 'keep away' with the cash box whenever the team dips. Really fun 😂😂😂

  • @MagicalBreeze
    @MagicalBreeze Місяць тому +1

    havent encountered any actual cheaters for the past couple months and i play on eu
    but i do agree on the visual recoil being bad and VERY unwanted in this game, its just things like visual recoil and weird extremely thick fog and stuff that make playing the finals a bit iffy but i still love the game a lot!

  • @Fixer48
    @Fixer48 Місяць тому +3

    Come join us across the galaxy fighting for democracy we got no cheaters here

  • @jaym4697
    @jaym4697 Місяць тому +1

    I've been using on screen crosshair since season one and I have a never even got a warning

  • @rPenek
    @rPenek Місяць тому +3

    Okay, i wont use overlay, just let me paste that tape on screen center and we are done.

  • @OfficialJaundice
    @OfficialJaundice Місяць тому +1

    So far my biggest issue has been the ACOG chevron not being accurate.
    I do whiff shots, but some are so blatantly on target, with no hit register, it creates some frustration in those intense moments.
    The option of having a couple different reticles/reticle colors would be nice too

    • @dunce7373
      @dunce7373 Місяць тому +1

      Trying to make the scope on the pike actually worth a shit has been insanely frustrating. Fuck it, iron sights.

    • @OfficialJaundice
      @OfficialJaundice Місяць тому +1

      @ I went to iron sights first and it gave me a good feel for the recoil, and it made the scope easier to use. But damn it when it’s not proper

    • @GutsTheLifter
      @GutsTheLifter Місяць тому +1

      @@OfficialJaundice omg i HATE that scope

  • @auruka
    @auruka Місяць тому +3

    Thought you gonna talk about aimbots, if the reason why some people seem to be melting others is just because of the center dots then i honestly am surprised

  • @panmilktea1792
    @panmilktea1792 Місяць тому

    Yeah they should have the crosshair in game do that because the difference between PC and console is like you can't have a crosshair overlay

  • @killerfroggaming6397
    @killerfroggaming6397 Місяць тому +2

    Although I don’t come across aimbot or esp to much I do come across a lot of chronies
    They are so common I see them in every other game I play.

  • @LiterallyLozyl
    @LiterallyLozyl 16 днів тому

    Almost 4 seasons already and this fundamental problem is still kicking around.......

  • @MinimizeNature
    @MinimizeNature Місяць тому +1

    Balanced and fair assessment

  • @OmuraXD
    @OmuraXD Місяць тому

    As much as I agree I think Embark do it to allow more server-side processing.
    If bullets always go to the center of the screen, then it is a simple calculation and easier to process on the server side, since every shot has no extra randomness added from the recoil itself. Having the recoil purely visual gives the server something less to process - and I think this is incredibly important in a game like the finals.
    I would love to see Embark taking a different approach to make bullets shoot where the crosshair is instead but that would also then add to potential lag issues - both in terms of framerate and server performance. :)

  • @Atom1cAtom
    @Atom1cAtom Місяць тому +1

    i thought we went over this with ottr already

  • @hot_pot_leprechaun1221
    @hot_pot_leprechaun1221 Місяць тому +3

    I'm gonna be honest. I don't encounter to many cheaters. I'm not the best, I'm not the worst but in casual games there are a ton of bad players. Bad decision making, bad position, bad aim, and bad reaction time. I don't want to devalue anyone's claims since solely listening to Pros and not casuals is not the way to handle things, vise versa,. But, sometimes it is because people are just bad at the game. Sometimes it is because they are cheating. I had a player who was self pro-claimed 4 time Pred, 6 time Master in Apex Legends (He was a twitch streamer, I looked at that) and he was hitting EVERY SINGLE SHOT with the pike from 80+ Meters away while always knowing where you are. I reporting him and he got banned same match 3 mins later. Next time I logged in the next day, Embark gave me a message and thanked me for reporting and wished me a good luck. Overall though, games are meant to be fun and sweating to the point where where you need a little dot on your screen to land those long distance shots is indeed cheating. Reason being, it goes against the intended design of the game to have an unfair advantage.

    • @meong7661
      @meong7661 Місяць тому

      I play from season 1 to 4 everyday after work just encounter 1 cheater in casual match and report it.
      I play 2 tournament every weekend.
      it's my experience from Asia and Europe server

    • @meong7661
      @meong7661 Місяць тому

      it's a good mind to think they are better player until proven cheating
      because if we think a really good player as a cheater we will not focus on having fun playing game, we will focus on accusing

    • @Durzza
      @Durzza Місяць тому

      @@meong7661 thats why region locking china and russia is the key to good gaming. they produce the most cheaters

    • @purp1e200
      @purp1e200 9 днів тому

      "Games meant to be fun." I totally agree with you. Missing shots with a revolver because of a misalligned sight picture is absulutely not fun. So people fix this issue by putting a cross in the middle of the screen. How is this even considered "unfair"? You can do it too if you don't like it. There are apps in steam that does it. Takes you 2 minutes to install. Most monitors even have crosshair overlay options.

  • @Xorzun
    @Xorzun Місяць тому

    I play several hours every day and I meet a cheater about once every 2 weeks.
    Regarding crosshair overlay, Rob said as long as you're not modifying game files it's ok.

  • @yashuab.2979
    @yashuab.2979 Місяць тому

    I never liked visual recoil anyway. I've always liked physical recoil. Having recoil that moves the camera instead of the gun just makes so much more sense, but I am on PC and I have no idea how much this would hurt console players. It's obviously much easier to wrestle the camera with a mouse than a controller. I really have no idea what the answer is then, nor do I know if what I said is even a fact because I personally only ever play single player games on console, but I find myself waiting for recoil to drop on console while on PC I can properly brace for recoil.

  • @blankycat2495
    @blankycat2495 Місяць тому

    actually didnt knew they'd go just for the center.. and had so many times the ads on enemies and not hitting didn't knew why lmao.. started getting annoying after a while

  • @monkey-with-the-drip5296
    @monkey-with-the-drip5296 Місяць тому +4

    Simple fix.
    Add death cam..
    So you can see how his pov.
    So there's more proof for cheaters.

    • @ParzivalNakamura
      @ParzivalNakamura Місяць тому

      You should research how a death cam is made. It’s not a “simple fix”, by any stretch of the imagination.

    • @lochnesserl8654
      @lochnesserl8654 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ParzivalNakamura Especially from a game like The Finals where it also has to record the in-game destruction going on. This ain't your triple A studio bud

    • @arditm2178
      @arditm2178 Місяць тому

      They can't do it... Because it's too much data to record and replay... Physics/24 players, mayhem...
      They can't do it, because the architectural design of the game or unreal engine, doesn't allow it in an efficient manner or at all... Any GPU effects won't be able to be replayed, more likely... Leading to missing smokes potentially and other artifacts, wrong orientation position of players etc...
      Also, even if it worked perfectly, it would highlight how terrible the netcode actually is... so... Embark has an easy choice here... They won't do it... in the forseeable future.

    • @lochnesserl8654
      @lochnesserl8654 Місяць тому

      @arditm2178 They previously stated that they're up for the task tho. I mean, these are ex-dice devs (the same people who made Battlefield 3 and 4). While it is a very tough challenge to conquer, I'd suggest a replay mode where you can view the entire match in their free roam camera or spectate a certain player like how they have it in Private matches

    • @monkey-with-the-drip5296
      @monkey-with-the-drip5296 Місяць тому

      Or update the anti cheat so people can't use Xim, Cronus, and any cheating programs.

  • @Falfool69
    @Falfool69 Місяць тому +2

    The cheating issue is getting pretty bad on PC. Yesterday, in 2 games back to back, I've encountered cheaters.

  • @prgr
    @prgr Місяць тому

    I think it is included in the weapons balance, so guns are worse at close range where other abilities and swords etc shine

  • @slushyrunner4677
    @slushyrunner4677 Місяць тому +1

    Don't get me wrong If you made everything not have visual recoil it wouldn't make the guns crazy unbalanced. But it would still take away from certain guns And parts of the gunplay. Currently in the finals almost Every gun has has a short ADS time, The reason why this is possibleIt's because after ADS If players are moving they still have to re align the center of their screen. A perfect example of this is the lights sniper, If you look Eclipse of people that use a cross hair overlay or they have mastered memorizing where the center of their screen is, They make the weapon look completely busted. But without, But if you look at people without one of those 2 crucial keys, They can scope in really fast but they don't actually hit their targets. If you got rid of the ADS offset that scopes have While moving and shooting, Then you have to increase ADS time, Just to keep the effective time to kill The same. But I'm not a dumb ass, I can see how visual recoil Can feel Just As bad as a slow ADS speed. So I would like to offer a Truce, Instead of doing either of our plans they add a new attachment. A laser sight, And what it would do is it would allow Players to change their bullet spread from being the center of their screen To the center of the Scope

    • @Ava1ar
      @Ava1ar Місяць тому

      They could remove visual recoil or have it work like in cod but cod have smooth recoil so its not a problem to track enemies while ads

    • @slushyrunner4677
      @slushyrunner4677 Місяць тому

      @Ava1ar how does it work in cod?

    • @Ava1ar
      @Ava1ar Місяць тому

      @slushyrunner4677 Crosshair follow the recoil so you aim with crosshair to hit anything so if you try to overlay static crosshair in the center of the screen you will miss

  • @jsmith5479
    @jsmith5479 Місяць тому +1

    This crosshair nonsense barely makes a difference. Wall hacks and soft aimbot are the problem

  • @atSLASHY
    @atSLASHY Місяць тому

    monitor crosshairs are undetectable and if you have a simple static corsshair that matches or is smaller than your monitor one, no one will notice

  • @davidcorodeanu4535
    @davidcorodeanu4535 Місяць тому

    YES

  • @dingbatfpv
    @dingbatfpv Місяць тому

    What does visual recoil even mean? I think bullets go to my dot on both AKM and FCAR.
    I really don't want the CS thing where bullets deviate wildly from the dot.

    • @3ace846
      @3ace846 Місяць тому

      visual recoil means it's the players' camera/pov that's shaking instead of being the standard recoil which is the gun pulling your camera instead of the camera pulling itself.
      visual recoil is very obvious with revolver. try to ads and spam it. the gun has no recoil but your camera does which is very stupid.

    • @chadharpicenjoyer8591
      @chadharpicenjoyer8591 Місяць тому

      Try the revolver

  • @Jeannemarre
    @Jeannemarre Місяць тому

    This is indeed need NOT cheating… aimbot, wall hacks, Cronus, spoofing, etc ARE cheating

  • @CazDad
    @CazDad Місяць тому

    Visual recoil makes the game seem more realistic but messes up the quality of gameplay

    • @stephencoppedge8001
      @stephencoppedge8001 Місяць тому

      Visual recoil adds to the gunplay, which adds to the quality of the gameplay. Guns that kick like a .22 wouldn't add a thing to the gameplay.

    • @CazDad
      @CazDad Місяць тому

      @ it does I agree I just don’t think it’s that bad honestly

  • @voltagespark7341
    @voltagespark7341 Місяць тому

    That cheating issue isn’t even what most are doing most are just going to milkey way and installing aimbot

  • @monolith7796
    @monolith7796 Місяць тому

    They build the system. People will always adapt to that system. If that system is shit people are going to innovate to create something better.aka static cross hairs.

  • @thomvo4763
    @thomvo4763 Місяць тому

    ZepheirPrince is literally 50k and he has been queueing with cheaters

  • @UnitedGaming420
    @UnitedGaming420 20 днів тому

    Crosshair overlays are not a TOS violation. If they where the anticheat would easily detect crosshair X and ban the player. Minimal effort.

  • @sergeya
    @sergeya Місяць тому

    Right from the bat answer for title question: yes there are cheaters! 🙂I meet to many players that consistently make headshot in every encounter.
    As for crosshair overlays... heck you have one right on Steam. So it should be legal. No?

  • @Kyle-fc8jv
    @Kyle-fc8jv Місяць тому

    thought he was going to address the actual cheaters, you know the ones using walls and aimbot and all that

  • @frankgtz23
    @frankgtz23 Місяць тому

    Idk I’m ps5 and games are fun and fair, I haven’t encountered an actual cheater yet but when I go into quick cash or power shift and I get a lobby with only ps5 players games feel sweaty and it feels like people are on chronis because lights can map you with the m11 without missing any shots

  • @psilo5623
    @psilo5623 14 днів тому

    Its 100% unenforceable with monitors that offer built in crosshairs. Its NOT a battle embark will win.
    Its also terrible game design to have your ADS lie to you where the bullets are going.
    Using a crosshair in game thus isn't even immoral and I encourage everyone to use one.
    ***If putting a piece of tape in your screen is considered cheating, its the game that has an issue not the player.***

  • @dunce7373
    @dunce7373 Місяць тому

    I agree it *shouldn't* be considered cheating, but honestly seeing crosshair overlay gameplay with something like the revolver or pike seems to kinda put the gun on easy mode, which is not ideal.

  • @ItzTotoMore
    @ItzTotoMore Місяць тому

    Btw easy way to play without 3rd party software or anything else, the first shot is always centred, just hit youre shots and use the hitmarkers as indicator!
    Thank me later

  • @kirby89000
    @kirby89000 Місяць тому

    yes, the finals doesnt have the proper anti cheat so popular hacks work on the game

  • @sifon5495
    @sifon5495 Місяць тому +2

    so basically the finals is p2w? since monitor sight isn't bannable

    • @stephencoppedge8001
      @stephencoppedge8001 Місяць тому

      Monitor sight isn't bannable in any game to ever exist. So no.

    • @sifon5495
      @sifon5495 Місяць тому

      @stephencoppedge8001 but do u really need this in any other game as much as in the finals?

  • @Nawaz96
    @Nawaz96 Місяць тому +2

    Yes. Facing too many sus players lately

  • @georgdreck3202
    @georgdreck3202 Місяць тому +1

    I'm not cheating, you are cheating >:(

    • @NoSi-y7z
      @NoSi-y7z Місяць тому +1

      Not with that aim and gameplay

  • @Bubblebeard0
    @Bubblebeard0 Місяць тому

    3rd party crosshairs are not against terms of service dude. All the top players are using it, it’s not considered cheating. There was a time where it was a grey area, bot now, no, a few devs have said first hand, it is ok to use a 3rd party crosshairs. So long as none of the files have been changed or tampered with, it’s fair game.

  • @Ava1ar
    @Ava1ar Місяць тому

    Devs should remove visual recoil. People have been asking it since open beta. Embark are incompetent

  • @Puddingturtle
    @Puddingturtle Місяць тому

    Because bank it gets you the most xp and fans its full of cheaters. Most are are small builds using m11. You can just tell. No matter where youre at in relation to them, how late they see you, whether in air or invisible its heashot from the beginning of fire to the end. I truly dont get it. What losers.

  • @SanguineNightsTV
    @SanguineNightsTV Місяць тому +1

    I'm going to stop you right there, at 1:15 because when you start a video blatantly not having the facts straight, it's quite odd and disingenuous. I'd give you the benefit of the doubt of ignorance but when you publish a video without first fact checking yourself, I draw the line as it is spreading misinformation through the community for the sake of clicks. Perhaps it wasn't the intention but that's sort of your duty as a fellow creator to fact check yourself and be credible.
    Let's get a few things correct. Using a crosshair overlay, is not against the terms of service. It was simply put in a discord post that it was a form of cheating when used to gain an advantage but nowhere else in any official literature was it ever stated that it was against ToS. Even during the PEAK of discussion, which btw now its dead and has seen a resolution so you're bringing up a now dead issue which is even more odd, it was simply frowned upon and never confirmed to be bannable by the devs. In the past (prior to S4), I used a crosshair overlay for a truly static crosshair that disappeared when I ADS and was very open about it. This was because the crosshair that was currently in The Finals, at the time CB-S3, was quite literally ableist in design to people like myself with astigmatism as the constant inorganic jiggling was a trigger to chronic migraines. That being said, I dont use it anymore however, if somebody wanted to even if it wasnt for accessibility, I genuinely would not care because I don't consider modifications such as this as actual proper cheats.
    Moving on crosshair overlays that DO NOT inject anything into the game and come from a monitor OR software that slaps a png into the middle of your screen were greenlit by the devs during S4, as well. Crosshair programs like crosshair v2 and crosshair x are even white listed in EAC and the devs could easily add an exception to their game to ban said popular crosshair programs, should they be something they want to start enforcing as cheating and as a bannable offense.
    Love your content as always but please... fact check and don't be disingenuous.

  • @sealboy1211
    @sealboy1211 Місяць тому

    Huh?

  • @cerberuz704
    @cerberuz704 Місяць тому

    Did my research about this and as a console player i'm blown away. I knew about wall hack and aimbot but this is new for me. No wonder people have been beanig me from across the map with ease.

    • @lorenzobellagamba4164
      @lorenzobellagamba4164 Місяць тому

      Coff Coff console aim assisted player that beam everyone with ak… anyway

  • @Killjoy.Z
    @Killjoy.Z Місяць тому

    Its not cheating end of story

  • @KiritoX420-
    @KiritoX420- Місяць тому

    Wow another streamer who supports cheating may as well allow crones xen foot pedals aim bot wall hacking still cheating but from what he makes it sound wont effect the game much just will ruin it but hey what ever cheating is still cheating so I'll still report if I see any I'm sick of people like this it's just like cheaters in some games oh I unlocked all weapons and clothes for skills didn't earn it this is why people are moving on in the finals I play cross play off and get cheaters a lot on console but more on pc and xbox with cross play on

  • @cmdrrubbelspritz2115
    @cmdrrubbelspritz2115 Місяць тому

    they have center dots switched off so they must have overlays on?
    That's some rock solid logic there *NOT*

  • @Jelly_JJam
    @Jelly_JJam Місяць тому

    just learn the recoil :/ its a skilled trick and it takes time and learning so i hate to say it.

    • @Ava1ar
      @Ava1ar Місяць тому

      What this message even about? How its related to the video?

    • @monkey-with-the-drip5296
      @monkey-with-the-drip5296 Місяць тому

      ​@@Ava1ar They accused him for cheating 😂

    • @Jelly_JJam
      @Jelly_JJam Місяць тому

      @@monkey-with-the-drip5296 no. Sorry i was so fricking tired when i made that. I meant that he shouldnt be annoyed cuz its part of the game and i like how the recoil works.