The Finals Has A Cheating Problem...

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2024

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  • @jal-kx6tm
    @jal-kx6tm 3 місяці тому +143

    man all 20 people playing TA ranked must be really bummed

  • @SW4PN1L
    @SW4PN1L Місяць тому +3

    Thanks for talking about this, felt like i was going crazy with people aiming sharp from across the map and knowing my position randomly

  • @PIMPhasbulla
    @PIMPhasbulla 3 місяці тому +47

    I’m at the point rn where I’ll climb 1500 or so then lose to a cheater and lose the 1500 I just spent 4 games winning it’s not even fun anymore

    • @smoking_weasel
      @smoking_weasel 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah this elo system doesn't make any sense, plus the low population doesn't help either

    • @jordonwest6892
      @jordonwest6892 3 місяці тому

      Been happening to me since beginning of season

  • @xSTONYTARKx
    @xSTONYTARKx 2 місяці тому +4

    I encounter cheaters pretty often in season 4.
    The lobby will have a level 0 or level 1 player that is by far outperforming the entire lobby in terms of kills.
    It's so obvious that they're cheating

  • @DevGods
    @DevGods 3 місяці тому +77

    You might not realize this, but EVERY big game has a cheater problem. You cannot truly stop cheaters without also punishing the legit players and ruining their experience as well. So here are your solutions,
    1. Become an engineer and create a software that 100% stops cheaters as well as maintains client autonomy. (This will make you an overnight billionaire)
    2. Play single player games
    3. Play dead multiplayer games.
    4. Let it go and cherish the matches where you don't face cheaters. Because as long as the game has popularity no lifers will cheat, hack and bot their way to the top so they can feel better about their miserable lives.

    • @colekonop5034
      @colekonop5034 3 місяці тому +5

      Fucking fax

    • @Snickers4460
      @Snickers4460 3 місяці тому +6

      What a mature comment so rare
      I agree 100% game is fun as hell

    • @Jarochito-
      @Jarochito- 3 місяці тому

      What about hardware bans? Or too complicated you think?

    • @MadeOfBliss
      @MadeOfBliss 3 місяці тому +2

      No one is saying cheater problems aren’t a thing for many games or that the problem can be completely solved, but it gets to a point where the problem is simply too big to ignore and to “accept”.

    • @shallot4991
      @shallot4991 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Jarochito- hardware bans are easily worked around honestly

  • @yungwildfuego
    @yungwildfuego 3 місяці тому +17

    they gotta do something about this man, thank you for speaking up

  • @mohamadanas6203
    @mohamadanas6203 3 місяці тому +8

    Two days ago, I encountered a cheater in world tour. He was using heavy. Imagine , on the team scoreboard, everyone else had only 1-3kills, while he had 26 kills with the gun. He satyed on one of the rooftops and shot as if there were no range limit to his gun, We were killed immediately after respawning. Yesterday i got notification from dev they gonna punish the cheater

    • @mrmeaty5619
      @mrmeaty5619 14 днів тому

      Yea same me and my friends came across the typical aim bot cheater on world tour Asia server. We reported him and embark apparently dealt with it

  • @jamaicanbobsledteam753
    @jamaicanbobsledteam753 3 місяці тому +7

    I'm not even high-rank but I have witnessed 3 TA games in a row get cancelled because of people leaving.
    We have a whole generation of whingers & moaners looking for shortcuts. Some of em even try to justify the cheats they use.

  • @zaiahfox
    @zaiahfox 3 місяці тому +2

    Great vid. Much appreciated, anyone passionate about The Finals appreciates this greatly.

  • @kartoffelbrei310
    @kartoffelbrei310 3 місяці тому +17

    These videos that you linked of the cheats being used are from the Alpha/Beta/S1, so they might have fix these issues. I'm not saying that there aren't any cheaters (ran into a couple of them myself), but it's not as easy as in Season 1.

    • @MidNightFreakOZ
      @MidNightFreakOZ 3 місяці тому +1

      Not as easy doesn't clear the fact that most higher ranking bastards use cheats to get there!!

  • @KEMYSScs2
    @KEMYSScs2 3 місяці тому +6

    "Shit´s so fucking crigne" invis sniper said, alright jokester 😂

  • @RedRokPlayz
    @RedRokPlayz 3 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for making this video. The cheating has become a problem. Especially with the auto headshots snipers.

  • @GoitoilaKen
    @GoitoilaKen 3 місяці тому +1

    I started playing this game like at the very end of 2023 and ever since i love this fps game more than OW,val,csgo,apex but the cheating problem especially in the TA mode is just make me so frustrated so much that i just left that game mode for good, I stop climbing at 26k since cheater just know where im at and health regen limit just make me more handicap then the cashout mode(already hit e2 off by 9 tours for e1) where i can still try to beat the cheater(since 3 against 1 or 2 at max - havent seen a 3 cheater stack thou). Thanks for speaking it out

  • @Americca_Is_Doomed
    @Americca_Is_Doomed Місяць тому +4

    Season 4 just as bad. Game is filled with them and the devs don't care.

  • @kirby89000
    @kirby89000 2 місяці тому +2

    Most games are full of cheaters. They literally all have a chronus or some other device which can't be fixed

  • @WegaBoy
    @WegaBoy 2 місяці тому +1

    Cheating is rampant in this game. Even on console in casual quick cash it’s crazy

  • @Dustygoodz
    @Dustygoodz 2 місяці тому +5

    Season 4 im not kidding you like 70% of the people on console are cheating its so bad and ruining the competitive fun

    • @AlAnomalies
      @AlAnomalies Місяць тому

      You can't hack on console?

  • @Sandblazter
    @Sandblazter 3 місяці тому +3

    My friends ran into someone ximming on ps5 and it took 2 months and reports from multiple people to get him banned. He also posted compilations of him cheating on UA-cam
    Edit: nvm he’s been unbanned and is currently top 80 in the world 🤦‍♂️

  • @ניביקיר-ז9פ
    @ניביקיר-ז9פ 3 місяці тому +3

    A lot of the clips are really old but the clips that show the shield hack are a big problem

  • @SUDDENROCK
    @SUDDENROCK 3 місяці тому +3

    It was really clean in mid S2, when Embark start to get report by video. And S3 start they just go vacation and doesn't look at shit

    • @badmushu
      @badmushu 3 місяці тому

      Dude season 2 was the worst season so far. I think s3 has been better and they are much quicker on the bans. No it's not insta/mid match but I report and then next day get a notification saying action was taken. Season 1 and 2 ranked I'd see the same cheater for a week before they got wiped from the leader board and also see plenty of them make it all the way to D1 before getting banned...

    • @SUDDENROCK
      @SUDDENROCK 3 місяці тому

      @@badmushu The report system introduced in Mid S2 and after that Cheat was really clean, at least my playthough in asia server. For now I got 6 streak of cheater notification

  • @jsmith5479
    @jsmith5479 3 місяці тому +1

    The worst cheater I have come across had 16 kill 2 and half minutes into a match. Blatantly wall hacking and aim botting. Recently I have bumped into a lot of suspiciously good level 10s

    • @WegaBoy
      @WegaBoy 2 місяці тому +1

      Bruh I had a light yesterday on console in quick cash have 21 kills before the first cashout was even finished. Blatant cheating.

  • @phant0mwolf421
    @phant0mwolf421 3 місяці тому +1

    Devs need to stop actively banning cheaters and just flag their account for a separate matchmaking que composed entirely of cheaters.

  • @punotomalf6408
    @punotomalf6408 Місяць тому

    best moment we had is when we beat a cheater in powershift. we almost lose that game but luckily we are skilled and the cheater couldn't do anything.

  • @MobileSuitUnc
    @MobileSuitUnc 2 місяці тому +1

    At 58k eliminations?? Yeah, thats when it starts feeling impossible 😂

  • @AnimatingGood
    @AnimatingGood 3 місяці тому +4

    Oww this video will make me uninstall the FINALS and I have been playing since season 1,2 and 3 and that's why I have been getting beamed from far away

  • @shallot4991
    @shallot4991 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s not strictly the finals, almost all free to play multiplayer games are having this issue at this rate

  • @onikrux
    @onikrux 3 місяці тому

    melee mention
    instant like
    let's hear ya out, guy

    • @onikrux
      @onikrux 3 місяці тому

      dont put the links to the cheaters channels on yt, man.
      that 's what they'll get you for "advertizing"

  • @azizj
    @azizj 3 місяці тому +11

    after emerald, world tour and ranked has been flooded with hax. glad i didnt spend any money on the game tho, since ill be uninstalling

  • @xSavLandx
    @xSavLandx 3 місяці тому

    I’m done until S4 and this finally getting addressed by Embark.

  • @jagga-jagga
    @jagga-jagga 2 місяці тому +1

    I just played a bank it where the winning team 2 players had right under 15k dmg 26 and 20 kills the third 19 kills around 9k dmg.
    The 9k damage guy prolly is just bad at cheating too, but its really out-of hand. I see people posting videos and streaming using softaimbot all the time. Soft aimbot is like a given with streamers now in this game.
    That's why I don't watch Ottr and hop on his d*** like everyone else. He's right there with em using these same programs.

  • @erokips
    @erokips 3 місяці тому +1

    jesus, this quality says 1080 but shows a home depot toaster

  • @McDuckee69
    @McDuckee69 3 місяці тому +2

    I have no idea how having a report system that works to ban hackers is exploiting to you. It also seems like you have no concept of how complicated cheating has become, there will always be more cheaters then devs. Especially when people are paying money for hacks.

  • @scaady
    @scaady 3 місяці тому +5

    Thank you for making this and feel free to use more of my clips

  • @Cam_isMe
    @Cam_isMe 3 місяці тому +2

    They really need to be worrying about dealing with these cheaters instead of taking down videos calling out said cheaters. Like god forbid we give yall a hand and point out blantant issues with the game.

    • @Egie427
      @Egie427 2 місяці тому

      They are too busy making skins...

  • @Ylliaster-TheRisenPhoenix
    @Ylliaster-TheRisenPhoenix 2 місяці тому

    Me when both the linked videos are gone.

  • @dadakakadada
    @dadakakadada 2 місяці тому

    footage #1: 1:16 real, post 3.6
    #2: 1:31 real, not sure but most likely post season 3 launch before 3.6
    #3: 1:36 probably real (not clear whether the person behind was fully covered), season 3 before 3.6
    #4: 1:51 real, post 3.3 before 3.6
    #5: 2:04 not clear in the video (M11/XP54 could be used from top of the parking lot to make similar result without cheating)
    #5: 2:15 real, season 3 before 3.3
    #6: 2:26 not cheating, the enemy was clearly in sight of the player
    #7: 2:45 possible without cheating but may be a cheater, season 3 before 3.3
    #7: 2:50 possible but the pre-aiming suggests it was a cheater, season 3 before 3.3
    #8: 2:57 real, season 2
    #9: 2:59 real, open beta
    #10-29: 3:24 real, open beta
    #30: 4:37 real, season 3 not sure what version
    #31-and beyond: 4:40 - not a cheater's showcase, season 3
    Statements are mostly true, but the value of cosmetics and Embark's support are subjective so people have different opinions.
    It is also important to note that casuals do not experience cheating since season 3, so in terms of which season was the worst I would rank it as following based on frequency of cheaters (from most cheaters to least): OB (not sure enough but judging by the cheat software showcase) > S1 > S2 > S3.

  • @Snook_Dog
    @Snook_Dog 3 місяці тому +8

    The reason you haven't seen any videos about it is because everyone has left the game bc of this situation but do not worry the team making the game are notorious for turning their backs on cheaters and only making their game worse over time and you're seeing it first hand

    • @JohnnyBananas7x
      @JohnnyBananas7x 3 місяці тому +2

      Thats funny considering i monitor player counts every single day and what you’re saying is a down right lie. Now if your talking about sell out content creators well your wrong there too because the ones that left did so due to views or lack there of. No views no money and thats All that matters to them. These dudes left apex/R6 where they were getting thousands of views to play this game at like 20% there normal viewership snd lost money because it is so much better then the other games but eventually they ran out of funds because the game never blew up. (All the best games die or have a small core base) those same streamers never mentioned cheating and even this guy that made this video literally said at the beginning of the video that he never hears anyone mention it. Apex, Cod, XDefiant, overwatch, Fortnite and R6 (plus every other fps game) has a way bigger cheating problem. Go hip fire around a corner for another decade plus.

    • @Snook_Dog
      @Snook_Dog 3 місяці тому +3

      @JohnnyBananas7x lol its not a down right lie tho, if you look at the player count from day 1 until now you will see a decline, it's fact!

    • @SinsOnEvac
      @SinsOnEvac 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Snook_Doglike every game, but most ppl left because of balancing issues and because ranked wasnt cashout.
      I never heard someone leaving the game because of the cheaters

  • @AmazingSeek
    @AmazingSeek 2 місяці тому

    I haven’t encountered many cheaters in season 3

  • @Siledas
    @Siledas 11 днів тому

    It's not just The Finals. PvP shooters in general have been overrun with cheaters.
    I've been saying it for years and always used to get dogpiled by idiots chanting "skill issue" in unison like trained seals. Turns out most of them were probably the people I was complaining about.
    I mean, take a game like PUBG for example; they have a stable peak playerbase of around 700,000 people, and EVERY WEEK, the developer bans about 50,000 of them for cheating.
    That means that, at peak, you have a legit-player to cheater ratio of about 14:1, so in a full 100-player lobby, that means that, on average, 6 people in that lobby are cheating.
    I've mentioned things like this in public before, and have been asked by people with particularly smooth brains to provide evience, but that's literally just an extrapolation of the numbers provided by the developer, and it's fucking galling.
    Now, sure, you can say that six people out of a hundred is hardly 'overrun with cheaters', but it really doesn't take that many people to ruin a whole session for everyone who isn't cheating. Think about how many legitimate players these people interact with per session, and how many sessions that they're able to run before being banned and firing up yet another alt account. Given that I'm handing over my money to the companies that make these games, their inability (or disinterest) in adquately policing the behaviour of the people playing when it comes to cheating means that, at some point, the cheaters are STEALING an experience that I paid for, and the providers of that experience are allowing them to do it.
    If we keep giving these people money, they're not going to listen to any amount of complaining (and they've demonstrated that they'd much rather silence those who complain than make any kind of positive change in this regard).

  • @cubes1977
    @cubes1977 3 місяці тому

    Stopped playing 3 weeks ago with 3 of my buddies. Game became impossible to rank up. We all made it to gold on world tour but It was a grind winning very few tournaments. We could cruse to the final game on many occasions to get absolutely rinsed in the final game sometimes not getting 1k combat score each. Literally getting shot from across the map with lazer accuracy.

  • @KokohG4UL
    @KokohG4UL 3 місяці тому +2

    This situation feels like Rouge Company back in 2021, where the game is very buggy and there is tons of cheater, and the game eventually died

  • @zsideswapper6718
    @zsideswapper6718 3 місяці тому +1

    The issue is how legit Voltaic scenarios grinders get false banned for going let's say 31-2 in Quick Cash and blatant rage hackers are still rampant and those in charge of stopping them don't bat an eye.
    But the game is relatively recent so systems you mentionned such as a lvl requirement and loosing more rank points when loosing to lower ranks have yet to come. Doesn't excuse the fact they haven't looked at how other games try to limit cheating by implementing such system. Paywall would be horrible since cheaters can afford premium cheats themselves so they won't care.

  • @albinozar
    @albinozar 3 місяці тому +2

    womp womp this game is 9/10

    • @WegaBoy
      @WegaBoy 2 місяці тому +1

      It’s so weird this game’s community is filled with fanboys who refuse to accept the game is anything but perfect. There’s a reason the numbers dropped off so hard from launch

  • @frankliang9298
    @frankliang9298 3 місяці тому +4

    in NA server TA every 3 hours of playtime as a ruby i get:
    4 ruby five stack(0-7 + dodging)
    2 gold-plat cheater 4-5 stack
    1 team that is so bad that cannot be carried

  • @poll_ox3682
    @poll_ox3682 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh so THEY WERE cheating, it wasn't a skill issue

  • @Zizou19989
    @Zizou19989 3 місяці тому +1

    Light sniper main who plays TA 🤢

  • @GLZ0
    @GLZ0 3 місяці тому

    I havent come across cheaters so much after s2. Still that shoot through shield needs to be fixed. Also TA sucks. Hopefully they get rid of it

  • @Blood_z_wolf
    @Blood_z_wolf 3 місяці тому +2

    They are ruining the game

  • @compameqs
    @compameqs 2 місяці тому

    I wish we had killcams

  • @blannkcver
    @blannkcver 3 місяці тому

    thanks for the links might as well abuse it while we can 🙏

  • @hellothere-oi2xq
    @hellothere-oi2xq 3 місяці тому +1

    Lol, this is why you keep ranked cashout

  • @phant0mwolf421
    @phant0mwolf421 3 місяці тому

    I've never had someone shoot through my shields, though I play on xbox, with crossplay turned off (for this very reason)

  • @TWEEMASTER2000
    @TWEEMASTER2000 3 місяці тому

    gd they need to fix this shit

  • @bellycar8702
    @bellycar8702 3 місяці тому

    Yeah Im not touching ranked in this game casual is too fun too.

  • @TMinh956
    @TMinh956 3 місяці тому

    RIP GAME

  • @super_steam
    @super_steam 3 місяці тому

    this is why i quit lmao. they banned me when i was not cheating. and the cheaters actually own accounts that are from s1

  • @zenworldo
    @zenworldo 3 місяці тому +6

    These are szn 2 cheats. I haven’t seen much cheats this season. Bad video

  • @JUAANPIV
    @JUAANPIV 3 місяці тому

    Address Joult and Lisside turning crossplay off and aping Xbox players whilst they’re mouse and keyboard and Cronus zen

  • @n.erdbeer
    @n.erdbeer 2 місяці тому

    Just play non-ranked and have fun without cheats...

  • @Universe728
    @Universe728 3 місяці тому

    I am fairly confident that Balise (who is current WT rank 1) is cheating

  • @sourcherrycrunch
    @sourcherrycrunch 3 місяці тому

    I've been watching and seeing cheaters get caught throughout the years and most of them usually have serious mental issues. take the recent TF2 bot incident. the dude got locked in jail for having CP on their hard drives. so just remember when a cheater gets you in a game, know theyre probably um.. "undesirable" to women lol

  • @Wavyintelguy
    @Wavyintelguy 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the vid, bro. I was starting to doubt my skill a bit. Have a great day.

  • @JeremyRuiz805
    @JeremyRuiz805 3 місяці тому

    I’ve never run into a cheater before. Idk why

    • @sourcherrycrunch
      @sourcherrycrunch 3 місяці тому

      they're definitely more prominent on the higher rank competitive games, or you're just not catching them. I see them on casual modes too though

    • @Whytho-dude
      @Whytho-dude 3 місяці тому

      I’m in the same boat. I feel like Ive only ran into one or two blatant in my almost 300hr gameplay, but there’s definitely been a few I felt were sus and sent a report anyways.

    • @Zizou19989
      @Zizou19989 3 місяці тому

      As a high rank player I just report and block the player and I’ve been chilling tbh. I do run across the occasional cheater but it isn’t that bad imo. I also don’t play TA much so maybe that’s why, I’ll never play that unbalanced light sniper = free wins game mode 😭

  • @ShootFirstNS
    @ShootFirstNS 3 місяці тому

    All the cheaters are in TA, cashout is ok but I assume that's because it's not the 'official' ranked mode and anyone buying boosts or cheats are simple minded enough to only want cheats for 'ranked'.
    They can't fix this issue without totally revamping the anti-cheat and maybe using something more invasive which won't happen.

  • @Treyfuwu
    @Treyfuwu 3 місяці тому

    buh bye ❤

  • @EddBSmith
    @EddBSmith 3 місяці тому +7

    I've played just over 300 hours and can count on one hand the amount of times a cheater has been in one of my games. Every multiplayer game will have cheaters to some degree, it'll never be flawless. I was interested to watch your video to see how bad it might be, but honestly you really don't have much actual footage of cheating. There's some, sure, but after the first few minutes and the guy selling cheats, it's really just footage of you getting kills or people leaving the game early to avoid a loss. Hell, literally half your video is about Ruby ranks leaving so they don't de-rank. That's not a cheating problem.
    Does The Finals have cheaters? Yes. Does The Finals have a cheating problem? From your video and my personal experience, no. Unless you have a lot more footage (and I'm sure you have more play time than me) then really what you've shown is very tame for the amount of time you've likely played.

    • @WegaBoy
      @WegaBoy 2 місяці тому

      Delusional. I literally get the “your report has resulted in actions against a player” message damn near every time I get on

  • @TheSmileCollector
    @TheSmileCollector 3 місяці тому +2

    At least my cheetos are better than the ones in the video. ☺

  • @Timayy
    @Timayy 3 місяці тому

    I think Fortnite’s anti cheat is p good tbh

  • @SwigerQ86
    @SwigerQ86 3 місяці тому +1

    Well im luxky. I havent ran into any cheaters

  • @siccmade187
    @siccmade187 3 місяці тому

    World tour just as bad

  • @TungNguyen-ry8uq
    @TungNguyen-ry8uq 3 місяці тому

    I play quick play exclusively and I only run into 1 cheater in my last like 50-60 games. When I get a cheater I take it as a challenge and I actually make the cheater in my latest game rage quite from hitting a nasty sniper headshot on him. Point being ever since I play exclusively for fun cheating has not been a problem.

    • @Salohcin_Semaj
      @Salohcin_Semaj 3 місяці тому

      the cheaters you can win against in casual modes are REALLY bad players with basic cheats - run into a decent player with good cheats and you cant win.

    • @WegaBoy
      @WegaBoy 2 місяці тому

      They’re not cheating then lmao you would know if they were and you wouldn’t stand a chance

  • @tonygunk1886
    @tonygunk1886 2 місяці тому

    "if they retaliate against me, I'll personally use my platform..."
    Dude, you have 39 subs.. chill out champ. It's obvious there is a cheating problem but how do you stop Cronus zen users? It's hardware so unless they go after Walmart and Amazon for distribution of said product you are wasting your time

  • @JohnnyBananas7x
    @JohnnyBananas7x 3 місяці тому

    Cs2 is so trash. The cheaters stay in terminal attack where they belong.

  • @theundeads1
    @theundeads1 3 місяці тому

    classic Embark. The company that will nerf players favorite weapons and classes to hell when no one asked, yet won't address cheating.

  • @Tsunderedad
    @Tsunderedad 3 місяці тому

    Lol

  • @asdfadfafsdfa
    @asdfadfafsdfa 3 місяці тому +1

    whaaa a f2p "competitive" game has cheaters?! no way!

  • @MidNightFreakOZ
    @MidNightFreakOZ 3 місяці тому

    The biggest issue is that they NERFED ALL THE GUNS, SO THERE IS NO FUN IN IT ANYMORE.

  • @mgomggmomg
    @mgomggmomg 2 місяці тому

    9:59 What do you mean by this? Did the enemy team partially avoid your team?

  • @Eradicationist
    @Eradicationist 3 місяці тому

    It's because that game is already as lame as xdefiant

    • @lochnesserl8654
      @lochnesserl8654 3 місяці тому +2

      Bad comparison, don't speak ever again lil bro

    • @Eradicationist
      @Eradicationist 3 місяці тому

      @@lochnesserl8654 opinions will be people's opinions and yours also doesn't matter.

    • @lochnesserl8654
      @lochnesserl8654 3 місяці тому

      @@Eradicationist Especially yours, well said 👏

    • @Eradicationist
      @Eradicationist 3 місяці тому

      @@lochnesserl8654 i mean that games player counts don't lie dude, so its really not even a opinion....more of a fact.

    • @lochnesserl8654
      @lochnesserl8654 3 місяці тому +1

      @Eradicationist It's still alive and don't even mention console

  • @gnebs2392
    @gnebs2392 3 місяці тому +1

    I don’t see any blatant cheating in your video. Even the videos you claim advertise cheating doesn’t look like cheating. I’m betting they just take clips where their aim was impressive and used that to advertise a fake product. The wall hacking could easily be added in post. The sniper dodging you showcased is just silly. Why do you discount random chance? I’m not saying hacks don’t exist but I’m pretty confident at least some of the examples you illustrated don’t showcase hacks.

  • @nathanwood3814
    @nathanwood3814 3 місяці тому

    You play too much. Thats why you keep seeing cheaters. Take some breaks

  • @DevinPatrick-cs8kc
    @DevinPatrick-cs8kc 2 місяці тому

    okay calm down there buddy, ya sound 14. ahahahahha 14:45