Someone just discovered another new mechanic...
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- A Japanese Rocket League player named Fetelix accidentally discovered a brand new competitive mechanic just a few weeks ago. The community has dubbed it the "Lix Jump". It's a way to jump off the wall while retaining your dodge for an infinite amount of time. Something that has never been achieved before in Rocket League.
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I really thought there were no more new competitive Rocket League mechanics. I was wrong. If the Lix Jump gets perfected, it will surely make it's way into RLCS given a good amount of time. I think it will be a while before it's implemented regularly in pro gameplay if it ever even gets to that point. However, I do indeed believe that the Lix Jump will be used by pro Rocket League players at some point. It's just so useful and players have already proven that it can be done in a way that is useful competitively. It's just a matter of how long it takes for these players to get it consistent. To know that for sure, only time will tell.
0:00 What Is The Lix Jump
2:01 Players Start Using It
4:37 Possible Issues
5:51 The Best Lix Jump
6:48 How To Do The Lix Jump
8:56 How It's Used
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I find new mechanics all the time. The one I'm especially proud of is called lose control of your aerial as soon as you leave the wall and crash in the least graceful way possible.
Oh man I did not copyright it but I've been performing that mechanic all the time, I promise
Most effective mechanic 😳
Nothing can save it
It’s just too op..
Bro for real 😂... I wonder who first invented the "graceful flop" lmfao
maybe i am wrong but the main point is that this mechanic let's you have a "flip reset" without the ball. so there could be interesting team plays where a player prepares his flip reset and the ball comes to him through a passage from his teammate
Yes, you can already do that from the ceiling but this not only ads another option but you can keep your altitude better with less boost possibly with this instead
I still don't get why you have a flip reset from the wall? What's going on? It doesn't work like that if you just jump off the wall regularly
@@proggigs you're side flipping on the wall but you don't leave it immediately, your wheels hit the wall, resetting your flip, and then the momentum and collision kicks you off the wall. So you've completed the dodge and landed on the wall again and then get ejected.
That's how it looks when I watch the slowmo anyway
@@proggigs it's like a ceiling reset but from a wall.. u bounce off the wall using a curve dash. Since the wheels touch the wall before u bounce u still have a flip.
so basically just fast ceiling shot
It’s insane that a mechanic like this hasn’t been discovered for 7 years it seems like a pretty obvious one if you know about the curve dash. That’s what I love about this game I think in another 7 years there will still be new mechanics. Great video Wayton!
I don't know if this is something new or if it is way too impractical but when doing wave dashes for fun i accidentally failed it while holding the left stick in either the left or right direction. This resulted in a very fast turn to the side, sometimes even all the way round. It is super hard, if not impossible to control and i don't know if it's useful or if it maybe is already discovered, idk. Ig you could call it the wave dash fail or something
@@-jfk2306 I think I know what you're talking about. It's like you do a 180 degree when only 2 wheels are touching the ground all while mid flip.
I think Freestylers do that mechanic. They do like a forward wavedash but the car tiptoes with its nose, a 180 ballerina spin, and a backflip flick.
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180 Wavedash
@@locke_ytb oh yeah, that's basically what i did
I think it wasn’t found because who side flips right when going up a wall, if anything someone would try and wave dash up but never side flip
I wanted to call it the DN reset
Don’t you dare
What’s DN?
@@wheeledbroom9097 Deez nuts
@@mystery44444 Thanks man.
im down for that
I think this mechanic might be most useful as a good way to get up to receive a pass while still keeping your flip
i like that
For those claiming this isn’t new:
Yes I did research before making this video lol. I know there are mechanics like the “Roll Reset” and the “Hel Jump”. Those mechanics were discovered years ago but never caught on because they’re just too slow or can only be done in situations where it just doesn’t make sense to.
The Lix Jump is indeed completely new. The inputs and movements are different, the end result is different, and the viability is different. It’s not a modification of something that already exists.
If you think you remember seeing a clip of you or someone doing it long before, feel free to DM me a link to that clip on twitter (@WaytonPilkin). If you can’t find the link, you must have misremembered and are probably thinking of a different mechanic. As long as this pinned comment remains here, that means no one has sent me an actual clip of the Lix Jump being performed before the original clip from Fetelix a few weeks ago.
There are A LOT of you in the comments already saying you’ve done this before or you’ve seen someone doing this before. I am extremely confident you haven’t but I will openly admit when I am wrong. I’ll edit this pinned comment if I am proven wrong.
I did it 10x in a row against JSTN but the cameras weren’t on
@@Danstry ez claps. I can confirm, I was the ball
This mechanic looks pretty insane for sure. Especially for lower ranked players who won't have the car control to do flip resets in the first place. This one seems like as long as you have the control to air dribble you can use it effectively. And I agree, I doubt people could do that on accident very easily since it has the sideflip involved. I'm sure many have done the first part where your wheels lean off the wall from jumping too early though.
I found it MONTHS AGO last year on Reddit. Exact same but no link. Sorry but I’m not on Reddit anymore. See if you can find it. Idk but I’ve seen the exact same thing.
Lmao
This mechanic will be used by pros more often than yall think. They will be doing crazy redirects with it. You don't need to go on the wall with ball, someone can just pass it to you!
i mean you can just drop off the ceiling tho
Yeah this fits freestylers more
@@nuance7135 Sometimes relying on the ceiling is too slow, it's an extra option, keep your flip from the ceiling if the play will reach you slowly, or restore your flip off the wall if it's coming at you fast. High level games will be using this a lot, I can see it already.
@@daredeviler2088 Except if it’s coming at them fast they’ll almost always be able to just jump off the wall and use their flip normally before the timer runs out
Could be helpful challenging air dribble shots too since you can float in the air and keep your flip
I guarantee that this mechanic will be used in RLCS before the end spring split, this year. I think everyone is vastly underestimating the value of always having your flip, not just for the shot itself but also for passing from the air dribble or fake potential. This could force defenses to completely change how they defend shots off the wall. For example, you could get the lix jump and have your flip, then fake going for a flip reset to make the defender think you don’t have a flip, then just use a flip and hit it right over or under them. If this starts getting used in that way where the vulnerable period is very short and it looks like a normal air dribble setup, defenders will have to start assuming that any player in the air after setting up a wall air dribble will always have a flip at all times, that is so much harder to defend than knowing they have to go for a flip reset to gain another flip.
I was thinking the same. At my rank (champ) I would not be able to distinguish this from a regular air dribble
Also defenders can prejump a lot earlier off the back or side walls and have that flip to challenge/recover
Quote from Alpha54 on stream: “I beg you to not learn this mechanic. You are wasting your time. Focus on actual gameplay.” This mechanic is useless at high level.
I don't agree. It's going to end up with the same "issue" as something like an on the car ground dribble. As it stands now, it's suuuuuper obvious you have your flip if you go for this setup so a good defender is just going to instant challenge and let his other teammates handle it if he doesn't connect. No high level player is going to sit around and wait for you to catch up to the ball with 50 boost before they challenge. Not to mention there's less aerial outplay potential because you'll have less boost than a regular air dribble even with the addition of a regular flip reset since just going for a regular one really doesn't consume that much boost if any depending on how you go for it. That being said I think the freestyling community will have a lot of fun with this though.
It will definitely be used in top 10 leaderboards for 1s and 2s.
The pro scene is too fast and to actually have the time to pull it off would be impossible to get.
I see alot of potential in this mechanic can't wait to see how it's used :)
Hey dont u think this is a setup not a mechanic? People bending the meaning of machanic but are also super strict about it
@@moalyz6009 It's a mechanic that allows you to do a new kind of setup
you could have an opinion without putting it in youtube comments for likes, this adds absolutely 0 information to the content provided but if you think that you seeing potential is sumthing the ppl need then yeah gor for it ig
never used in RLCS tho
The moment I heard “easier than flip reset” I was hooked
I can flip reset and i can't curve dash
@@metasamsara i can flip reset from a ground dribble not a wall dribble and i can curve dash
You're hearing that from SSLs that learned to flip reset when they were still in Champ/GC. This is not going to be easier than flip resets to learn, they're just learning it at a point where they're way better at the game already.
This is HUGE!
I just got my flip resets halfway decent but this is on another level. For a defender that is a bit further back and doesn't see the setup or doesn't even know about this it's basically impossible to defend as you just expect an air dribble.
the defender after getting scored:
"where did the flip came from?"
@@rpg4264 exactly what I was thinking
@@rpg4264 they'll probably think you''re hacking or something lol
I thought you were going to say this mechanic will be huge for defenders until i continued reading your second sentence. Now I picture using this to shut down air dribblers haha
@@xslayerz3093 that would also be insane as the attacker will not expect the defender to have a dodge to adapt to directional changes
Congrats on 400k wayton! also amazing video, never knew they would discover another jump mechanic😅
IMO talk about the "vulnerability" at the start isnt a bad thing about the mechanic. It just means that you have the opportunity for mix-ups now. If they challenge early, then stay with the ball for a normal air dribble. If they dont challenge early, then go for a Lix jump
its the flip reset all over again
@@jasoncrabtree976 i can see ur a og
The fact that cool mechanics like this can still be discovered makes me so happy
This is legitimately game breaking. Having a second flip is something we have all wished we could have. But now the offensive has so much more power over defense this it's going to be crazy hard to defend once the dribble starts.
Then learn it and level the playing field. Your goal is to play as little defense as possible. In my rank (low gc) you very rarely have a chance to set something up off the wall. Ever since air dribbling became a thing players do everything in their power to meet that ball on the wall before they ever have the chance to set up a shot.
This mechanic also allows a teammate to maintain a flip/dodge available indefinitely, even away from the ball. So imagine a set up where the ball is boomed forward, the teammate reads it, Lix jumps from the wall early and keeps the flip up until the moment it’s needed to shoot on goal.
u technically could already do that with a ceiling reset
Often you don’t need to get a reset cause you would still have your flip and if it’s far away and you do a lix jump off the wall to redirect it’s best to just normally jump of the wall than to have a extra flip cause lix jump will slow you down to arrive at the ball. That being said it does look good for air dribbles
I was really into rocket league, but stopped playing a bit ago. This video has motivated me to start playing again, and for that I thank you Wayton!
Nice
Dont solo q or youll stop playing again bro 😂😂
@@bennym.4707 🤣🤣
I just suck and it's frustrating
@@jahnj2523 rank?
Every freestyler watching this: *write that down, write that down*
You make me feel extremely old lol
It amazes me how detailed the breakdowns of these moves are
Thanks for all the videos. I'm really glad my friend had me watch some vids
Wayton, something to consider is the advantage this mechanic has for off the ball play. Specifically aerial challenges. Huge to be able to make a long challenge in the air, but then be able to flip into the 50.
Congrats on 400k Wayton! Lets hope you reach 500k first for that alpha boost!
This one actually is sick, nice to see some new possibilities in the game 7 years since its launch.
This is gonna be fun
Congrats on 400k! Keep up the good work Wayton!!
400k!! Keep up the great work, love your videos Wayton!
Great video, I'm definitely going to try that! I don't think this mechanic is a totally new discovery because of the HEL jump. Also Lawler stated this in his video about this mechanic if you haven't seen it.
This mechanic is really tough to learn due to the small timing gap you get to perform it but it isn't impossible since I can get it as well. However I do notice that if your airdribble control is a lot better (So being able to air dribble for longer distance and height) it will make the catch after you performed the trick a ton easier since you would know how to recover from a potential low ball and still make great use out of it whenever you want to.
Anyway, this trick will be used very often in the future in the comp and freestyle sections of this game and might become just as dangerous as a simple flip reset so yes, I recommend to learn the trick but I would also recommend to improve air dribble skills as well since that skill can also help out with this mechanic a bunch
If you flip the opposite side of the wall (if you’re on the left wall and flip right) you still get the reset and you also throw yourself much closer to the ball and eliminate that time completely closing the gap on an early challenge. It basically changes that initial weird hop into more of a sling you to the ball.
Whenever I get home from school, I always hope that there is a new Wayton video. Your videos make my day, seriously.
I feel like everyone is missing sth really huge here. No matter if u really HAVE the flip or not, as a defender its gonna be a nightmare to defend this. Imagine u see someone going off the wall "funny" and you're like "does he have it?" u start to hesitate and boom, he doesnt have a flip but u waited and he just scored a normal air dribble or at least beat you because u adjusted ur line to a Lix-Jump..I feel like thats the real power of this mechanic
Damn. So true.
this is really hard to defend like an air dribble.
the reason we can defend an air dribble is because the motion is locked
you cant just speed it up more then possible.
if you read this like an air dribble its going above your front
if you try to correct it so you also cover your front, your back is completely vulnerable.
if it does get consistent this is going to be a nightmare to defend indeed
@@Flaxify I dont think it has to be consistent. If it happens here and there, u start to hesitate and get outplayed. U cant rush it because the attacker can just flip into it and it goes above u and he can even flip into it to hit it straight down, u are just fucked. Especially 2s will be an absolut shitfest once this mechanic hits the casuals
Very good point. Even if pros can only get it like 20% of the time, the defender still has to wonder if they have it. It only takes a second of hesitation to cause a defensive mistake. If someone hits even one of these in a series, the defense could be shook on air dribbles for the rest of the matches
Honestly this should be fixed it's not a mechanic it's a bug.
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Thank you for making these videos!
I have been waiting for you to make a video on this
this is the equivalent to getting a new weapon in shooter game holy crap! super stoked to give this a try.
also i think a big part of this mechanic will be used in competitive, because right now a lot of people are making solo plays with the ball. imagine just doing a lix jump off the wall to hit a shot from a pass or just keep your jump in your aerial! the possibilities are endless
Also I just realized this can open up a lot more stuff for free styling to also we might be able to see some cool passing plays with this new mechanic
interesting i look forward to seeing if this can make it to the pro scene in tournaments
man i love your videos! one thing is it always freaks me out when you hit your hands on your desk i think someone in my house
This is probably a game changer for highly mechanical players when executed correctly. Can’t wait to see pros pull this in RLCS 🤣
I recently learned air dribble and when i jumped that early off was so annoying😅
Now i know it can be beneficial😄😁
The goat back with content
its definetly great in some chases like conterattacking when other team is not well positioned
Holy crap someone figured it out! I somehow pulled one of these in a game like 6 months ago, it confused me greatly at the time because I didn't realize I'd still had a flip and it actually cost me the goal. My switch wasn't saving replays at the time, and I've been trying to figure out how/what actually happened ever since.
yeah with stuff like this i wouldn't be surprised if people did this all the time in rocket league history but didn't use the flip or didn't wait long enough for it to expire normally or just obviously didn't notice but it makes you wonder. It's not that complicated of a set up someone could probably just do it by accident somewhat easily
And that’s why I subbed to this channel. Now I have a new skill that I’ll never learn cuz I’m a plat but I bet I’ll use it in the future.
I'm with you. When I get somewhere Champ or higher, that's when I'll try it out for fun.
Just try it out now! Just messing around in free play is the best way to improve at rocket league!
Feel free to have fun trying to pull this or other hard mechanics every now and then, as it will help you improve the overall control of the car... that being said, basic air dribble, power shots, fast aerials, some dribble and, on the mental side of things, being more patient in defense and not trying to reach every ball in the attacks, will most likely help you to get out of plat. Have fun and enjoy yourself :)
yooo wayton, noticed you wearing a boise state shirt and some of your news ads were for idaho! boise born and raised that’s crazy man! been watching you for a while now
I think this might be a great mechanic for mid air commits, 50/50s or passes by your mates because the focus while getting up isn't really on you and you might get a big advantage by having a flip there.
Seems like a mechanic with very high potential. Time to go practice it! Seems like if it could be gotten consistently that it might be just as if not more competitively viable than the flip reset, but first we just have to discover the ins and outs of it by experimenting lol
Please learn how to rotate properly or fast aerial first. This will waste your hours.
@@FelixFR. Yeah I definitely agree, but for higher level players who have learned to do these basic things it could be something worth learning.
when wayton uploads, you know its gonna be a good day.
IKR!?!?!?!?!?
Congrats on 400k!
There's an older version of this for ground resets. That version has been used widely in freestyling.
I can't wait to see the first goal with this flip in RLCS
I can’t wait to see AyyJayy do this I already know he’s gonna grind the heck out of this new mechanic.
I’ve never seen a more factual rocket league comment
Congrats on reaching 400k 🎉🎉
400K LETS GO WAYTON
This mechanic is broken. The defence will be much harder since most of the players will learn it. And there is no problem about consistency. Because every mechanic u learn, u start feeling, like driving the vehicle. Perfect example of this is the flip reset. Since u trained it enough u can pull it off as u wish without paying attention on the set up touch or controlling your car properly. So I think this season will be in the history of RL.
It will be very powerful used correctly, but not broken. It has the moment of weakness just like flip reset does, and the more popular it gets the more people are going to recognize when someone is going for it and know what to do. Like with flip resets.
@@ruohos about the weakness. Yes the new mechanic has it but u dont know when the player will go for it. From the wall he can go for a ceiling shot or air dribble. So u cannot predict if he is going for it or not if compare to flip resets. May be I'm at low lvl of rating (just hitted gc1), but I do think so. And after that, if he went for it, he can see if some1 challange or not. So he can flip the ball pass him or make a pass or stick close to it and 50 or fake some1. So I think it has no weakness. May be u r right because I dont know how it'll be in reality. So time will show.
This can actually be huge in 1v1. I'm going to learn this rofl.
EDIT: should be easy enough, I've done the first part on accident so many times, just didn't bounce back forward to push off the wall like that
I do have the feeling this happened to me multiple times practising wall to air dribbling. But i never tried to use my flip after obviously screwing up the jump off the wall, so i don't know if i actually had it.
Congrats on 500k🎉
The great thing about this is you can use it defensively too, where flip resets can only be used on offense!
Even if the Lix Jump would be slower in every way than a flip reset, I think it adds another level of unpredictability to everyones gameplay and can catch players off guard or make them at least question whether you will go for this while challenging or a defender in net will have to think about whether you got the reset or not. I think this will definitely affect competitive gameplay in some way because unpredictability is the meta right now. Just look how Team Queso won the EU regional or BDS the LAN, both of their opponents where questioning how they should predict what those teams were about to go for
You could do the Lix jump from the ceiling too. Since it is because of the curve on the wall if you’re going down from the ceiling it would be the same.
congrats on 400k subs!
good way to get center the ball, options for air ball control will be next level if they can be consistent
awesome video thx for all the explanations
Dude waytons videos are like movies now
Side flipping with air roll left/right lets u keep ur nose up and don't put u in a weird position.
Imagine waiting for a pass in midair and have your flip ready to redirect the shot with a banger
“Almost no risk if you messing up an air dribble”...
ME: hold my kombucha...
This is also going to put more pressure on the defense because no one will really know if you have a flip or not. So even on normal air dribbles of the wall they could still think you have a flip.
People can easily read the setup if they're paying attention. I'd imagine it would be called out
"all skill levels trying to learn it, you got plats, champs, ssls"
Me at Diamond: Do I mean nothing to you!!!!
BROOOOOOO I was just thinking about how much more powerful you would be if you had your flip/double jump for longer yesterday and then you post this lol
it’s actually possible to do the lix jump on the ceiling too, it’s a bit easier to do aswell but it gets you off the ceiling a lot quicker and you get your flip
I've spent so many hours trying to get a reset from tapping my wheels on the ceiling or wall without sticking, i never considered using my flip to tap and bounce off, its so counterintuitive. this is awesome
Congrats on 400k
It'd be interesting to pass from that position since you see most of the field from there.
That's crazy bc I've come up with one myself and it's really the same thing but on the ground using air roll,light jump lean left n right before u land on your 2 left tires, flip right and u should pop up and keep a flip
I have only done it by accident before it was posted and I feel like many other people done it aswell but didn’t see it as a new mechanic
This can be game-changing since you can get a flip-reset without doing it the classic way touching the ball
This was probably one of the most frustrating mechanics I’ve tried to learn I still don’t understand the flip off the wall
Omg. Just as you said that at 5:54 I got an ad xD
I did this quite long ago because I would jump too early for the air dribble but never thought of it as a mechanic
I can see it having defensive utility. One defence against ceiling shots and flip resents is to drive up to the ceiling and have your own flip ready to counter. The problem is you are always approaching the attacker from above. Now you can approach from high or low.
Thanks Wayton! Can't wait to jump in and give this a try. Go Broncos!
Me: man when will someone find a new mechanic.
Wayton:Now
I can mainly see this working well for pre jumping a pass, less so for a solo play. Bet we will be seeing JZR perfecting this soon.
Next RLCS is going to be interesting
Love the hoodie man👌🏼
I remember when I first saw the wall dash video and you were like “it’s probably not going to be very useful in competition” and then the next RLCS pros we’re doing it non stop lol
Can't wait to do this new feet licking mechanic in my ranked games!!!
You can use it as a passing play as well, you the pop of the wall your tm8 will be on que wall behind you he does the arial off the wall and the third tm8 can do bump plays on the groun or reseve a pas from the arial taht the first tm8 can do with an arial
If you use this mechanic but instead of side flipping just use the wave dash going up the wall and it makes for a solic reset setup. Discoverd on accident tryna do this.
This is why I want to see something like OpenAI Five (from Dota2) in RL. Or something like TAS in speedrunning. Imagine what a bot could discover. I mean, most of it probably wouldn't be humanly possible, but it would still be interesting to see what peak RL performance/mechanics looks like.
Thanks Wayton. I can't even jump when I'm on the wall otherwise I end up centre field stuck on my roof.
But this is definitely useful!
Lol
I've been messing with this. Hold air roll when you side flip and don't let go of air roll. For me it's gotten rid of the upside down stall moment. You just kinda launch nose up spinning.
I stopped playing RL for like 2 years and came back to see a few people do this move on me and it confused tf outta me as to how they had their dodge still up. This video made me realize what they were doing lol
Nice video. Without you i wouldnt have know about it thanks wayton😄👍
A day later and freestylers have almost mastered it lmao
Imagine waking up on Monday learning that you have to master a new mechanic in order to get some champ season rewards
... so your telling me every time I accidentally messed up a air dribble it was a new mechanic...? *quietly passes away. Self esteem destroyed. Ego levels reset*
Sir Fetelix, Lix for the friends
when i started practicing air dribbles i tought that i would have another jump that the lix jump has, and i was disappointed i didn't have one more lol
I can definitely see this as a defensive play. If you can't get an air dribble with it, you can always get yourself in the air to block a shot or redirect it into a pass.
I find it better to do with a diagonal flip, but the flip doesn't make the flip noise when I get the reset for some reason.