[What-If Universe] Official Power Scaling.
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This is actually the first time I'm making an informative animation like this. Tell me what you think!
Music used:
Vegeta's Theme - FighterZ 8bit Remix.
Vegeta's Theme - Super Botuden 2 Extended.
![[What-If Universe] UPDATED Official Power Scaling.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1hMH4ssDixI/mqdefault.jpg)
![[What-If Universe] UPDATED Official Power Scaling.](/img/tr.png)
![[What-If 4] Vegeta Were To Turn Super Saiyan Before Goku.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e7TC34IqKnI/mqdefault.jpg)
If you're interested in finding a specific character, here's a timestamp I created.
1:45 Vegeta (Base Power, DBZ era)
1:52 Frieza (Final Form, DBZ era)
1:59 Vegeta (Super Saiyan, DBZ era)
2:05 Frieza (Full Power, DBZ era)
2:12 Goku Black (Base Power, Timeline hopped to DBZ era)
2:19 Future Gohan (Super Saiyan, DBZ era)
2:25 Goku (Base Power, DBS era)
2:32 Goku Black (Super Saiyan, Timeline hopped to DBZ era)
2:38 Future Gohan (Super Saiyan 2, DBZ era)
2:45 Vegeta (Super Saiyan, DBS era)
2:52 Goku (Super Saiyan, DBS era)
2:58 Goku Black (Base + Post Zenkai, Timeline hopped to DBZ era)
3:06 Goku Black (Base Power w/tail, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
3:12 Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan, DBS era)
3:19 Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan, Battle Power Rising..!!, DBGT era)
3:25 Future Gohan (Super Saiyan 2(3?), DBZ era)
3:32 Gohan (Super Saiyan 3, DBZ era)
3:38 Goku (Super Saiyan 3, DBZ era)
3:45 Super Buu (Good Buu Absorbed, DBZ era)
3:51 Gohan (Potential Unleashed, DBZ era)
3:58 Gohan (Potential Unleashed [Stronger], DBZ era)
4:04 Goku Black (Super Saiyan w/tail, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
4:11 Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan 3, DBS era)
4:18 Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan 3, Battle Power Rising..!!, DBGT era)
4:24 Goku Black (Base Power, Timeline hopped to DBGT era)
4:31 Super Buu (Gotenks + Piccolo + Good Buu Absorbed, DBZ era)
4:38 Gohan (Potential Unleashed, DBS era)
4:44 Goku Black (Super Saiyan, Timeline hopped to DBGT era)
4:50 Goku (Super Saiyan 2, DBS era)
4:57 Goku (Base Power, DBGT era)
5:04 Cell (Super Perfect Form + Post Training, DBS era)
5:10 Goku (GT) (Base Power [Adult], Timeline hopped to DBS era)
5:17 Goku (Super Saiyan Power, DBGT era)
5:24 Goku (Super Saiyan 3, DBS era)
5:30 Goku (Super Saiyan, DBGT era)
5:37 Goku (GT) (Super Saiyan [Adult], Timeline hopped to DBS era)
5:43 Goku Black (Super Saiyan 2, Timeline hopped to DBGT era)
5:50 Goku Black (Super Saiyan + Kaioken x10 w/tail, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
5:56 Goku (Super Saiyan 4, Alternate DBS era)
6:03 Baby Vegeta (Tuffleized Super Saiyan + Energy Absorbed from Tuffles, DBGT era)
6:10 Goku (Super Saiyan 2, DBGT era)
6:17 Goku (GT) (Super Saiyan 2, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
6:23 Baby Vegeta (Tuffleized Super Saiyan 2 + Energy Absorbed from Tuffles, DBGT era)
6:29 Frieza (Final Form + Post Training, DBGT era)
6:36 Goku (Super Saiyan 3, DBGT era)
6:43 Broly (Legendary Golden Great Ape, DBGT era)
6:49 Goku Black (Super Saiyan 4 w/tail, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
6:56 Vegeta (Super Saiyan God, DBS era)
7:02 Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rose + Post Zenkai, Timeline hopped to DBZ era)
7:09 Goku (GT) (Super Saiyan 3, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
7:16 Baby Vegeta (Tuffleized Super Saiyan 3 + Energy Absorbed from Tuffles, DBGT era)
7:23 Vegeta (Super Saiyan God Evolution, DBS era)
7:29 Goku (Super Saiyan God, DBS era)
7:36 Goku (Super Saiyan Blue, DBS era)
7:42 Goku Black (Super Saiyan God, Timeline hopped to DBGT era)
7:48 Gokhan (Potential Unleashed, DBZ era)
7:54 Goku (Super Saiyan 4, DBGT era)
8:01 Goku (Super Saiyan Blue [Stronger], DBS era)
8:08 Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue, DBS era)
8:15 Goku (Super Saiyan 4 + Post Zenkai, DBGT era)
8:21 Goku (GT) (Super Saiyan 4, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
8:28 Goku (Incomplete Super Saiyan Blue, DBS era)
8:34 Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rose, Timeline hopped to DBGT era)
8:41 Goku (Super Saiyan 4 + Kaioken x10, DBGT era)
8:48 Goku (Super Saiyan Blue + Kaioken x10, DBS era)
8:54 Gokhan (Potential Unleashed + Kaioken x10, DBZ era)
9:01 Cell (Golden Form + Post Training, DBS era)
9:08 Goku (Super Saiyan 4 + Kaioken x20, DBGT era)
9:14 Goku (Perfected Super Saiyan Blue, DBS era)
9:21 Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rose + Kaioken x10, Timeline hopped to DBGT era)
9:27 Jiren (Base Power, DBS era)
9:34 Frieza (Golden Form + Post Training, DBGT era)
9:40 Cell (Golden Form + Godly Ki Absorbed + Post Training + Post Zenkai, DBS era)
9:47 Goku (Super/GT) (Super Saiyan Blue, DBGT + DBS era)
9:54 Gogeta (Super Saiyan God, DBS era)
10:01 Cell (Golden Form + Post Training, DBGT + DBS era)
10:08 Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan 4, Battle Power Rising 1..!!, DBGT era)
10:14 Frieza (Golden Form + Fifth Form + Post Training, DBGT era)
10:21 Gogeta (Super Saiyan God + Kaioken x10, DBS era)
10:27 Cell (Golden Form + Super Saiyan 4 Goku Absorbed, DBGT era)
10:34 Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan 4, Battle Power Rising 2..!!, DBGT era)
10:41 Jiren (Full Power, DBS era)
10:47 Gogeta (Super Saiyan Blue, DBS era)
10:54 Baby Vegito Black (Super Saiyan Rose/Tuffleized Super Saiyan 3, DBGT era)
11:00 Beerus (Full Power, DBS era)
11:06 Goku (Super/GT) (Super Saiyan Blue + Super Saiyan 4, DBGT + DBS era)
11:13 Jiren (Super Full Power, DBS era)
11:20 Gogeta (Super Saiyan 4, Timeline hopped to DBS era)
11:26 Vegito (Super Saiyan Blue, DBS era)
11:33 Gogeta (Super Saiyan Blue [Stronger], DBS era)
11:40 Vegito (Super Saiyan Blue + Kaioken x10, DBS era)
11:46 Gogeta (Super Saiyan Blue Evolution + Kaioken x20, DBS era)
This needs more recognition. Seriously.
Thank you for this!
@@Hyourinjutsu W-wow, to think I'd get a reply from you! You're very welcome!
21 Likes? Bullshit
Triforce95 good job suck up
The amount of factors taken into consideration, the possible outcomes and transformations that we never even dreamed of. It blows my mind to how you are able to create this/put it together. There is a reason we love your content.
It amazes me that all of this content could have been accurate in the official db series
mohammad mehmood agreed
mohammad mehmood The fact that he has anything GT with competing with any of the forms from the super anime is very weird
@@ajxx9987
Not really...
There were a few things wrong with the list, but overall it was pretty good
@@mickey-xu7sl I mean... the what if scenarios. not the powerlevels
*Still patiently waiting for baby vegito black vs beerus ( GT timeline)*
I need this too
Baby Vegito Black vs Gogeta Blue tho when
Azurity Same
Fr tho
@@champagnegascogne9755 that would be nice but at the end of the what if, beerus gets woken up by the power and him and whis are going over to where they are vegito is so I need to see that fight
This is like a Dragon Ball Pokedex
Dragondex
All 92 Dragonmon
That was his intention
It actually looks like Black and White's UI ironically.
Is this power scale supposed to be canon to the actual story? Or just to his series?
The last 5 ranked people were like:
Gogeta: Ur weaker
Vegito: No u.
Gogeta: No u.
Vegito: No u.
Gogeta: No u.
Vegito couldn't get the last no u because his potara fusion ran out
TB 😂😂😂
In last one if that was done by Vegito
He would have been stronger
Gogeta wins out when he fuses at a more recent time. When Goku and Vegeta are stronger.
Gogito: *chuckles*
The mere fact that if baby vegito black dared to toy with broly any longer would have led to him getting beaten by him is genuinely terrifying
And since this Vegito was barely under Beerus in power, Broly could have fought the God of Destruction and won afterwards.
@@leirbag1595 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kaioken x20: Not so Fast
Imagine if he got that super saiyan 5 tho 😳
Super Saiyan 4 power boost is extremely high... I can't even imagine how much of a power boost is a super Saiyan 5 and the fact that it's broly
Hyourinjutsu, just wanna say thank you on behalf of our community, the time you invest, the stories and fights you create are a blessing. Thank you for sharing your talent and determination with us. Everything you have earned so far, you deserve it.
Thank you for your hard work, Hyourinjutsu
For real, these animation always have great choreography that I wish Super had more of! I'm always looking forward to the next one
By community, you mean the idiots who think Goku can win against everyone and anyone and who say DBZ is the best anime in the world right?
@@devinator9582 i have no such stupid ideas, *SIR*
Are you drunk?
@@williansondospassossilva5808 I didn't mean everyone, You, me, Hyourinjutsu, and other people are not one of those people. I'm saying like 70% of the Dragon Ball community is that.
“It is possible that while in hell, Frieza discovered a sixth form that has yet to be shown.”
HMMMMMMMMM...
Oh dang.. Perhaps we may see What If #13 Frieza again down the line? Maybe through some time travel shenanigans.
@@BBlader i mean people has speculated about vegeta and gohan training in the afterlife now that goku has disappeared
Achieving super saiyan 5
And i think the next what if is Goku black vs Vegeta
Davin Pradipta that can be good almost super special awesome
When a pixel animator is better at powerscaling and explaining the reasons for a characters power than the actual writers of the show.....
But he has the advantage of creating his own scenarios and easily being able to justify the scaling based on his needs, unlike the actual series.
Still, he is very good on the explanations and correlates(is this word a thing?) a lot of material in a very interesting and coherent way.
and better than most youtubers that do power scaling videos
Yeah it's sad there are errors with his scaling but much better than the actual writers
@@paperhero1081 That's hell of a stretch
Horrible powerscaling, but it's still entertaining.
No one:
Seth: [What-If-Universe] Official Power Scaling. Debunked
NoCavidad LOL
Don't give him ideas, you fool!
NoCavidad funny part is that would make sense tbh, like going for the canon series
I'd actually love to see that, it'll be a long as video.
What is there to debunk
This is how you guys create hype in DBS without Ultra Instinct.
Hell yeah to that bud.
Facts
Db heroes should take notes on this
It'll be very mostly unlikely that Ultra Instinct will be used in the upcoming what ifs.
But at least there was a glimpse of sign ultra instinct in what if #10
Angry Chichi: Rank Infinity: Tired of both Goku and all bad Guys, Chichi gained the Super Dragon Balls and became a being who could not be surpassed. Gohan fears the form due to the fact she has 500 times more books for him.
I legit want this
Fuck you
If he did it, with his story telling/everything else it'd be classic. I'm with this as well.
@@cstallion08 fuck you as well :)
oh.
ok.
I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it was a game with these animations
Actually the best game to give you an expirience close to this is dragon ball super sonic fighters it has the dragon ball feel put on 2d just search for emulators online.
I like how he is making his own storyline with Goku black, from fighting future Gohan to unlock his god ki, to time hopping to team up with baby Vegeta, fighting Broly and fusing with baby in the process. And it seems what if 14 will take place after the Gohan fight but before the Broly fight, and it looks like black will be fighting a SSG Vegeta in an attempt to learn more about the capabilities of the Saiyan tail and SSJ4.
Do you readed the descriptions? They're different Goku Black's.
The one who fought Broly defeated Goku, Vegeta and Trunks without needing to fuse with Zamasu, while the other had to escape because Zamasu was sucessfully sealed with the Mafuba. (he said that in the community section 3 weeks ago)
@@Kai-fh7uq this comment did not age well
@@TreeDad Yeah that was unexpected, but he doesn't explained how Goku Black achieved Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Rose Kaioken, I don't think it was a good idea to just link to that what if as a prequel without further explanation
@@Kai-fh7uq Does he really need to explain how he got weaker forms when he had already achieved Rose?
Obviously once he could turn Rose, he could naturally use Goku's less taxing abilities.
@@Kai-fh7uq
I'm pretty sure Black can already use all those forms but mainly uses Rosè because he simply has no need for them.
Honestly, SSJ4/SSJB GT Goku should be the strongest out of all of them. Goku gains immense zenkais such as the one in the Tournament of Power where as SSJB he endured the "strongest attack ever" from Jiren and could keep up with a powered up Jiren who was stronger than the one who had already surpassed Merged Zamasu & SSJB Vegito. I can definitely see that GT/Super Goku already surpassing past fusions powers by several times over.
Ey yo didn't expect to see you here
I love how the top 5 is gogeta > vegito > gogeta > vegito > gogeta. As it should be.
Fusions Are OP, but hear me out. What if Gogeta and Vegito fused.
@@alphasilver2650 what if that fusion was using the potara AND gets the rivals boost?
@@Amsel_616 and when fused use the Super Saiyan God Blue Evolution + Kaioken x20
*The world insta explodes*
Alpha Silver Gogito
@@Damocles107 Yes, that is correct. Nonetheless he'd be op and his voice would. Be weird.
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Even though I spent a lot of time making this, it was really fun! I did this so people could have a bit of more understanding regarding the [What-If] lore. That said, Chapter #14 - SSJG Vegeta VS SSJ4 Goku Black is in the making, and hopefully you've gotten a bit of an idea what it's going to be like from this video here.
Stay tuned and much love!
After please do baby vegito black vs beerus, I've been waiting for ever for that one
I know this is your ur own created universe, but could you explain why the dance fusion is stronger than the potara fusion? I believe its the other way around in canon
Rank 77 says super saiyan 2 instead of 3
@@theelderscrolls90 the same in the cannon, they retconned it in super sadly. Patora used to be so broken, it was able to man handle, buuhan, who had the strongest non fused character in the series so far. And those you said it wasn't clear at all, read the guides, it blatantly says patora is better than dance. Don't know why dance is better than patora here
Great job hyru 😁
Never have i wanted something so bad that i wasnt aware of it
Amen
*"Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I received it."*
-King Vegeta IV, 2017
Nice
Golden Cell + SSJ4 Goku Absorbed is without a doubt the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. Doesn't help that What-If was about the most depressing thing ever. I really want to see a sequel to that and hopefully with a happy ending like SSJ4 Gogeta just obliterating the both of them or fuck, have SSJ4 Blue Goku just come in and wreck their shit.
Then again, if Frieza could improve and get stronger with just image training then I see no reason why Goku couldn't do the same.
I definitely want a happy ending but this ending was nice
Reason why Frieza can improve so drastically just from something like image training is mostly because of his genes. He was born a prodigy, which meant that his body was gifted with abnormal power and an even more ridiculous capacity to get stronger. Goku, while he is indeed a fighting genius, wasn't born a prodigy. As a result, he'd gain power at a lot slower rate compared to Frieza. (Note: Not taking Zenkais into account since Frieza never exploited a similar benefit during his training and probably never even suffered serious damage during training.)
Also been wondering, what if Goku went SSJ3 instead of SSJ on Oozaru, if that would give him SSJ6? And if he applied God ki on top of that. I just wanna see the golden 6th form Frieza vs this SSJ6 Blue Goku
Super Saiyan 6 doesn't even exist, at best the strongest non-godly transformation is Super Saiyan 5 which isn't even canon. And no, SSJ4 Blue Goku should be more than enough to be a challenge to Frieza's 6th form, if he had one that is.
@@bw7004 I dont know what to call that transformation, so I just called it SSJ6. It would just be a SSJ4 with SSJ3 hair cuz Goku would go SSJ3 when he goes Oozaru
"may even have a sixth form"
Someone foreshadowing frieze pulling something out of his ass to win later lol. Though I am excited to see what this supposed 6th form will be.
We will likely get ssj5 at some point too he's for shadowed that too
@@abhinavchandra4881 I know and it looks sick
that would make him too strong
Possibly in a future fight where this Frieza is confronted by God, or he and Cell betray each other.
Look up king cold 6th transformation, and you will have your answer.
*Glad to see that Jiren is in the Top 10*
Jiern vs the entire pokemon and Digimon verse
Yo sword man
Imma Zamasu Hello there Zamasu!!
TheEndo-SymArmor Pokemon gets clapped Easley gets clapped but digimon is pretty hard because neo and zeedmeleniumon exist and many more reality time and space warping digimon.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor Depends really. Theres only one Arceus but Gamefreaks confirmed that every variation from mystery dungeon to all the pokemon games is its own universe.
Thats how we got rainbow rocket, primal dialga, etc.
So with that in mind Arceus who created all these where theres only one should be multiversal on the same levels as Zeno.
Unless you count how he got fucked by a big rock, but then Goku gets bruised by bullets, hurt by a rock in super saiyan, a laser if caught off guard and etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
None of them are as strong as my dad when we has the belt
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Yes, son?
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@@piccolo748 *Your
wait no not the belt AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nothing can top my father when he's drunk.
The UI kind of reminds me of Pokemon Black and White's interface.
Because it is
The select and start button was giving me a rush of nostalgia.
Oh shit I’ve never thought about it. Broly’s “best” start form would be ssj3 since it takes a shit ton of energy but Broly has overflowing energy so maintaining it and using it fully would be no problem for him
Actually no his best form if ever allowed to be would be ssjb perfect ki control if he ever controlled that unless goku went straight to ultra instinct he'd ramp up to unbeatable in minutes.
True ultra instinct broly would wreck everything
@UA-camSucks Balls this is dbz broly, he will find a way to get ultra instinct through madness.
@@kermitjr8152 what
@@kermitjr8152 wth he cant go ui. Ui need calm mind and allow instick (idk) to move itself
Jiren all forms
9:28 Base
10:41 Limit Breaker
11:14 Super Limit Breaker
Homework? Yeah I have that. I need to learn about the what if Universe!
Edit: Oh wait this has a lot of reading. I’ll just watch it later then.
Honestly, same dude
True bro!
Weaklings
Y'all remember the Dragon Ball Multiverse comic?
I liked it
But it hasn't been completed yet
@Evan Morel it's possible
Still published. They're late, but their job is truly awesome, especially Asura
We remeber quite often, they are like ants nowadays(power scaling) but the narrative is ongoing and its NIIIIIIIIICEEEEEEEEE
If only this could be the official serie instead of DBS...
I see you with those Pokemon assets, good to see black and white getting love.
10:15
*Reads Description*
Did this man just unintentionally predicted Frieza’s new form? I can only imagine how dangerous Black Frieza would be in that timeline.
No, pretty sure that's a reference to "Dragon Ball Mulltiverse", where a King Cold from another universe has not only a fifth form that looks similar to Cooler's, but also a sixth form that is much bigger and more monstrous.
@@pokesonav Exactly.
top five strongest warriors:
5) Gogeta
4) Vegito
3) Gogeta
2) Vegito
1) Gogeta
3:29 It says Futute Gohan Ssj2
But he's in level 3.
Typo
He thicc
Nine Tailed Fury
He’s so strong, his Super Saiyan 2 is Super Saiyan 3!
I was thinking blue 4 goku was gonna be the strongest ngl but still a good animation
Question for anyone who sees this
Since new What If's have come out, and thus new characters. Where would you place them on this ranking?
Those characters being:
Base namek arrival Goku
Goku Kaioken x3, x4, x10, x20, x30, and x40
Base "Bardock" (suppressed and full power)
Super Saiyan "Bardock"
Base Xeno Vegito
Ikari Xeno Vegito
Super Saiyan 4 Xeno Vegito
Full Power SAJ4 Xeno Vegito
Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Vegito
And though the what if centered around these two aren't out yet, where would you roughly put Mastered UI Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta?
Namek Goku is absolutely the weakest, and even SSJ Ginyu would barely surpass Base Vegeta.
Gogeta should be roughly the same if only slightly higher, but Xeno Vegito whops the competition in his final form.
As for UI Goku and UE Vegeta, I would put them just below Beerus. They have canonically not yet surpassed him. Probably between him and Baby Vegito Black
All 92 Fighters within the Dragondex
I have a theory:
If What-if #14 took place before #9, and Goku black was present there without a tail, that must mean 2 possibilities:
1. Goku Black could've killed Vegeta but Vegeta sliced his tail off because Goku Black was too strong in SSJ4
2. Same as 1 but Goku Black retreats to another timeline after Vegeta sliced his tail off and he became too weak to fight him in God Evolution.
Ding ding! We've got a time traveler here.
Congrats, you got it right.
Wait a minute, fight 14 isn’t even out yet
good observation kotomine kirei, maybe he's already finished with the animation and is now in the editing part
Lol, kewl foreshadowing
@@BlitzSaysHi Its probably just to tease us. He has stated in his pinned comment that its still in the making and the factors in the video was to give us an idea on what that what-if is going to be like.
Blitz_X hahaha i like your comment
it is now lmao
Final Exam Essay who? I need this What-If!
that's me right now
If anyone was wondering, I can set the WHOLE What-if timeline here.
Starting off with Broly Legendary Super Saiyan 3 vs Goku Super Saiyan Blue.
Apparently, LSSJ3 Broly was a projection made by Whis, made for training. Goku was likely pushed to go beyond Super Saiyan Blue, by Whis, or it was just to learn to maintain his SSJB state.
Now further on to the next what-if. We have Gohan (Teen and ssj3) vs Gohan (Adult and Mystic.) This event is most likely either a dream for adult Gohan, or it could be two timelines breaching into eachother because of Trunks' time manipulating. This should take place around at the same time or after the last event.
When we go onto Super Saiyan 4 Goku vs Beerus, I'm imagining that this event take place before the last two events, because he states that he doesnt like using others powers to make them his own, implying, that he hasnt gotten Super Saiyan Blue yet. So prior, to not discovering super saiyan blue, he is now using and will probably be using Super Saiyan 4 for the rest of this Dragon Ball Super timeline.
Now we go onto Vegeta Super Saiyan vs Freeza. This must take place before even Super Saiyan 4 Goku vs Beerus and all the other timelines, this is an alternate timeline where Vegeta turns Super Saiyan before Goku. (I also have another Theory for later.)
For Golden cell vs Super Saiyan Blue 4 Goku, Goku utilizes his tail and the great ape and super saiyan to go super saiyan 4, and then mixing it with super saiyan god. I'm also pretty sure this happens a few years AFTER Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta vs Golden Cell. (I'm coming to that now.)
Golden Cell vs Gohan Goku and Vegeta. This is suppose to be before Goku vs Golden Cell I'm pretty sure. In this, Cell sees that their forms go even beyond the gods, which makes him think, "Aren't I suppose to be the perfect being?" and yes, he is suppose to be, so naturally, he learns to utilize Super Saiyan Blue, Golden form, and Super Saiyan Rosé at the same time, with that he easily escapes from Hell...
Future Gohan vs Goku Black. This is the start of the Goku Black era. To create this timeline, Goku Black killed Trunks, thus, changing time and space again. He then starts off by incinerating the planet, making Future Gohan appear. Future Gohan is Goku Black's "Punching Bag", and Future Gohan ends up getting killed.
Super Saiyan Blue Vegito vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. Gogeta creates a rift in time and space, assuming that someone strong enough would do the same and point those two universes together. And Gogeta was right, Vegito bends time and space, thus, making their universe end in a single point, and meeting.
Super Saiyan 5 Broly vs Baby Vegeta and Goku Black. The next piece of the Goku Black era, Baby Vegeta is about to end Goku, but then Goku Black appears. He wants to see the full extent of Super Saiyan 4. (This takes place after Future Gohan vs Goku Black) In this timeline, Broly is awakened because of Goku dying, and like in the first Timeline I discussed, Broly missed the sun by sheer luck. Broly now gains a Zenkai and fights with them, but he gets defeated easily, thus, looking at the moon and getting a new Zenkai, and going Great Ape, they destroy the moon and he falls down, he then gets ANOTHER Zenkai and goes Super Saiyan 4.
DBS Goku vs DBGT Goku. Goku (DBS) is after the Zen Exhibitions match, but Zeno wants more, so he calls in another Goku... of course, Gt Goku! and thus, they fight. (This is DBS Manga Goku, so he is significantly weaker than Anime Goku.) in the end he gets defeated by GT Goku, but in credits scene...
He goes Ultra Instinct. He couldnt hold it though...
Gokhan vs Buu, in this what-if, Gohan catches the Potara earring and puts it on, thus, creating Gokhan. Which is quite interesting, if you say this happened in Z, it would turn out like this: Gokhan in DBZ Buu arc, Vegito in DBS Black Arc, and Gogeta in DBSB arc.
Gogeta vs Jiren, in this one, instead of relying on Goku going Ultra Instinct again, Vegeta and Goku fuse, going Super Saiyan God and spamming attacks. They end up not caring about time and go Super Saiyan Blue, but for the finishing move they screw it and go Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Kaioken.
GT Goku vs Golden Freeza, this one is quite simple, dr. Gero and the other doc, create a Super Android to kill everyone, making a false alarm of Freeza and Cell being in Hell.they then vanish, as Goku would be stuck in hell forever, Goku then discovers that Freeza is there. As they fight off.
In the end Freeza is far superior to Goku and defeats him, then Cell appears and absorbs Goku.
Goku Black Super Saiyan 4 vs Vegeta Super Saiyan God evolution, part 3 of Goku Black trilogy, this takes place after Gohan vs Goku Black and takes place before Goku Black and Baby vs Broly- Goku Black was defeated because he didnt know Goku and Vegeta would come in the Trunks arc, but his Time Ring vanished him to THIS timeline, and he fights Vegeta to make sure he doesnt fail to defeat Trunks and Co. in the main timeline. Now for that Theory I mentioned earlier, my theory is that I think this is the same timeline as "Vegeta Super Saiyan vs Freeza", because in this timeline Vegeta is way stronger than Goku, as well as in Vegeta vs Freeza.
This was my explanation of the What-if Series! Bye.
thx
@@LavaCreeperPeople No problem!
Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly in What-If #1 was an illusion created by Whis.
@@sokool3994 How do you know? But thanks for the info!
@@LZPFilms I watched the entire video.
Wonderful job. The power scaling makes sense in terms of the multiverses you've created, and seeing the power scaling of the next what-if was really interesting to see. I would say the only issue in this is that you might need some proofreading in some of the summary's. I would love to help out with that if you haven't the time for yourself to proofread. Anyways, looking forward to the next one~
im hoping he creates a chart for the OG dragon ball. Before he goes onto Z, GT, and Super
Where do What-Ifs 15 to 19 scale in comparison?
If I was to guess
Goku and "Bardock" would be tge weakest, though SSJ "Bardock" and Goku right before he died would probably be above Base Vegeta.
Gogeta Blue would likely rank just a little higher as before, given it's the same entity with a tiny bonus amoubt of training, while Xeno Vegito would surpass him by far.
However, I feel like Cumber and Broly's fusion would take the #1 spot. These two are just cracked.
MUI Goku and UE Vegeta, I would say rank somewhere at the top of the characters below Beerus. Likely somewhere around Jiren.
Baby Vegito Black, when using the Kaioken, likely surpasses Beerus' full power slightly. I do not think he surpasses any of the other fusions, however, woth the exception of tge Gogeta who battled Golden Cell.
Well, now Vegito Xeno takes the first place...
There needs to be a actual series with this man. I’d love for like a alternate GT or a alternate Super or something. Doesn’t have to have voices but if you need a voice actor I could possibly help, but please go beyond the What-If if you can, I’d love to watch
Last time I was this early...
I hoped that I would get likes
You will, don't worry
@@Mr.Jubilation that's so nice of you lol
Just realised there was a never an ultra instinct what if, but that doesn’t effect the hype at allll
Dizzee
Ultra Instinct is a form that literally makes you untouchable, there’d be no contest.
At the end of the Goku v Goku what if, the Goku from the Super timeline achieved ultra instinct once he had lost the fight. Though I see your point, these what ifs are really hype without any UI.
@@RamdozaCh Nah man imagine the super/gt goku fusion(that goku that expereinced both gt and super) using super saiyan 4(that at this point is near a base form) with UI.
I would like to see his 10 year anniversary to be MUI Goku vs FPSSJ3 Broly (DBS)
as a call back to his very first What-If
I’d like to see MUI vs ssj5. Feel like that would be cool to watch
we aren’t gonna talk about super saiyan god evolution? No? Aight.
I think it's because it hasn't been shown in a what if yet, only brief
I'm guessing ssj God evolution will be a sort of in-between form between ssj god and ssj blue
@@sean.a.s7234 As SSJG Blue Evolution is a window to something else?
TheWholeCircus well from my guess, Vegeta is gonna win the next What if, it shown if Goku Black goes Rose, he’ll still lose this one because the Goku Black In this fight takes place after What If 7, meaning he just achieved Rose and is still rusty with it. Hyourinjutsu said that Black will not be going Rose so he can exploit zenkai’s while fighting Vegeta and as it shown at the powers scaling, Vegeta in his God Evolution form seems to be higher then Goku Black on SSJ4 and Rose.
Damocles _ goku black is going to win because this what if takes place before what if 9
I just noticed this small little detail but when it proceeds to go down towards number one the up arrow and down arrow on the middle of the screen and that curved looking U there are from the Pokemon Black and White games am I correct?
7:24 Evolved Super Saiyan God!?
Holy shit that's actually really cool, I'd rather have this than ssb any day
thats gonna be in the next what if
@@vitozd2001 I know
@Evan Morel it looks awesome, it's like Vegeta went into Jiren's limit breaker form or something
@Evan Morel i think Goku getting healed was the part of the ritual rather than something SSG can do
@Evan Morel probably
But then again keep in mind,that there is such thing as "mastered SS" and since SSB is basicly is an SS version of SSG it kinda makes sense
Tho i doubt "mastered SSG" can exist since SSG is basicly base form that uses God ki and there is no such thing as "mastered base",cause,well,base is already your default
Mastered SSG is a cool concept tho
So... where is Superman?
Just kidding. I loved the video. Even though I dont agree fully hey.. its your universe!
Only thing lacking imo is a sense of scale. Since its not possible given its a list.
All of a sudden you are already in the god tiers. And lose track of the 'canon' as such.
May I please have a few words with certain people here unnecessarily claiming that "Vegito should always be superior to Gogeta" and "Gogeta fanboys are just toxic"? For starters, I'd truly appreciate if nobody tried to call out toxicity on others while also feeding it yourselves, that's one of the lowest levels of hypocrisy anyone can get to, if you're against toxicity, don't just call it out, prove your point and try to understand the other side first, otherwise you'll end up becoming one of the most toxic.
With that being said, no, Vegito doesn't necessarily have to always be superior to Gogeta, especially not if each fusion is taken from different eras. Now, if what you're trying to say is that Vegito is the stronger fusion, congratulations, you've pointed out the obvious, even though Hyourinjutsu had already done so, all you had to do was watch/rewatch What-If #6, it's made pretty clear there which fusion is stronger.
So then, why is Gogeta #1 in this power-scaling video? Well, there are two things to consider: 1) this is Hyourinjutsu's canon, whatever he says, goes, period, which I don't even know why that would be an issue, no offense to Akira, but this canon is far superior, it's more stable and consistent, not to mention that these match-ups are excellently written and action packed, it's everything any Dragon Ball fan could want, at least in my opinion; and 2) the strongest incarnation of Vegito depicted in both Akira's canon and Hyourinjutsu's canon belongs to the Goku Black saga, while the strongest incarnation of Gogeta depicted in Hyourinjutsu's canon belongs to the Universe Survival saga, common sense will let you know that, even though Vegito is the stronger fusion, of course Gogeta will be superior to Vegito in this case, it all comes down to how strong Goku and Vegeta are in their base when they fuse, not only that, but they have superior transformations by the Universe Survival saga, so that's an even greater boost of superiority over Goku Black saga's Vegito.
Wanna know something funny? Gogeta's incarnation depicted in Hyourinjutsu's canon is not only consistent with the canon he belongs to, but he's also more consistent with Akira's canon than Akira's own version of Gogeta. All you have to do is rewatch the DBS Broly movie, and then rewatch What-If #12, the realization might shock you, but Hyourinjutsu's writing makes Akira look like a Gogeta fanboy. Not once, not a single time, was the possibility of defusing even brought up during the Broly movie. Vegito, whose fusion lasts double the time of Gogeta's fusion, only lasted around 5 minutes due to power consumption from SSB, while Gogeta felt confident enough to toy around with Broly, going from base form all the way up to SSB, and by the end of the fight, we did not even get to see them defuse. That's right, their fusion lasted so long, likely all 30 minutes, that they got to defuse offscreen, just like in the original Fusion Reborn movie with Janemba.
I hope that these words may have brighten up some dark spots, I'm seriously not trying to start a needless debate, and I'm definitely not feeding up the toxicity, I'm just stating the facts, and the facts don't really care about which side is in the right in any of this, they just state what things truly are, and I personally would just like for everyone to not let things like this stop any of you from enjoying such quality content that we don't get to see often anymore, actually thoughtful and outstanding content that has great effort put in it, from the visuals, to the audio, effects, soundtracks, and of course, the fantastic writing.
On a side note, I was actually really hoping characters like SSJ3 GT Vegeta, SSJ4 Xeno Vegito, and numerous other characters that we haven't gotten the chance to see in any What-If's as of current day, but we did see that characters like Goku Black from What-If #9 and Golden Frieza from What-If #13 were worried about. Goku Black feared Broly would reach SSJ5 through Senkais, and Golden Frieza felt intimidated by the idea of Saiyans with levels far beyond anything imaginable, SSJ4 Vegito and Gogeta were there, SSB Vegito and Gogeta were there, SSJ4 Broly and Baby Vegito Black were there, but three characters that weren't here were in there as well, Kanba the Evil Saiyan, DBS Broly, and of course, MUI Goku, kinda wanted to see where they'd land here.
Last thing, but I was honestly shocked that neither Goku nor Superman from their match-up video made it here, I was convinced that Goku was the same Goku from What-If #5, just years before, since that Goku had both SSJ4 and SSG, makes sense to me that would lead to SSGSS4, and I honestly just wanted to see where Superman would land in this video, but it is what it is, I still very much enjoyed it and I sincerely appreciate all the effort and dedication put into this content, thank you so very much, Hyourinjutsu, you deserve so much more recognition, keep it up, you'll only keep on getting better and better.
Yea i was also wondering where superman and goku was at
A+
Shouldn’t ssgss4 goku be the strongest?
Wanting for the 2.0 version. I wanna know how strong was True Power Beerus
So many fun characters to see updates for! Gogeta's different forms and Xeno Vegito, Goku and "Bardock", BVB's Kaioken state, perhaps we'll even Broly, Cumber and their fusion or get a glimpse of Piccolo and Dabura...
Shout out to Jiren for having no transformation and being a mortal and making it to top 10
Imagine becoming one of the top 10 strongest beings in the multiverse through sheer rage at the concept of fusion
11:16
Jiren: *Seeing this so called fusion *Fills you with _DETERMINATION_
9:35 CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT ThAT wi 13 FRIEZA WAS STRONGER THAN BASE JIREN
10:17 states that “it is possible that Frieza found a sixth transformation that has not yet to be shown”
.......
Fusions still clap Frieza same with high tiers in DBS
@@moonlightgunvolt8132 Now imagine him fusing with his timeline's GT Golden Cell
Moonlight Gunvolt what dose that have to do with what I just said?I never claimed that Frieza would beat top level fusions,all I meant to do is point out a secret that hyourin hid and point out how strong that version of Frieza was.
@@salaga6574 again Frieza gets clapped The buffs on him are ridiculous but nothing to MUI Goku or The fusions
Moonlight Gunvolt again I never stated he beat top tiers in the first place.
Think it's time for an update video for this...
My Powerscalling from 1 -15 (by Strength)
95) Vegeta (4)
96) Frieza (50%) (4)
97) SS Vegeta (4)
98) FP Frieza (4)
99) Goku Black (7)
80) Goku (10)
81) SS Future Gohan (7)
82) SS Goku (10)
83) SS Vegeta (14)
84) SS Goku Black (7)
85) SS2 Future Gohan (7)
86) Goku Black + Zenkai (7)
87) Goku Black (14)
87) Broly (LSS) (9)
88) Broly (LSS) (1)
89) SS3 Gohan (2)
80) SS3 Goku (11)
79) SS3 Future Gohan (7)
78) SS2 Goku (10)
77) SS3 Goku (10)
76) Goku GT (13)
75) Super Buu (11)
74) Gohan PU (2)
73) Gohan PU) (11)
72) Buutenks (13)
71) Goku (15)
70) Vegeta (15)
69) Goku GT (Adult) (10)
68) Goku GT (Super Saiyan Power) (13)
47) Cell (6)
66) SS Goku GT (Kid) (13)
65) SS Goku GT (Adult) (10)
64) SS Goku Black (14)
63) Goku Black (Super Kaioken) (14)
62) SS4 Goku (3)
61) TSS Baby Vegeta (9)
60) SS2 Goku GT ( Kid) (13)
59) SS2 Goku GT (Adult) (10)
58) TSS2 Baby Vegeta (9)
57) Frieza 50% (13)
56) SS3 Goku GT ( Kid) (13)
55) Golden Great Ape Broly (9)
54) SS4 Goku Black (14)
53) SSG Vegeta (14)
52) SSB Goku (1)
51) SSR Goku Black (7)
50) SS3 Goku GT (Adult) (10)
49) TSS3 Baby Vegeta (9)
48) SSGE Vegeta (14)
47) SSG Goku (10)
46) SSG Goku Black (9)
45) Gokhan PU (11)
44) SS4 Goku GT (13)
43) SSB Goku (6)
42) SSB Vegeta (6)
41) SS4 Goku GT + Zenkai (13)
40) SS4 Goku GT (10)
39) ISSB Goku (10)
38) SSR Goku Black (9)
37) SS4 Goku GT + Kaioken x10 (13)
36) SSB Goku (Kaioken x10 (6)
35) Gokhan PU (Kaioken x10) (11)
34) Golden Cell (6)
33) Goku GT (Kaioken x20) (13)
32) PSSB Goku (10)
31) SSR Goku Black (Kaioken x10 ) (9)
30) Jiren 50% (12)
29) Golden Frieza (13)
28) SSB Goku (Kaioken x20) (15)
27) SSBE Vegeta (15)
26) Vegito : Xeno (15)
25) Gogeta (15)
24) Golden Cell (God Ki Absorbed) (6)
24) SSB Goku GT (5)
23) SSG Gogeta (12)
22) Golden Cell (5)
21) SSB2 Goku GT (5)
20) LSS4 Broly (9)
19) Gogeta (God Essence) (15)
18) Vegito: Xeno (Ikari) (15)
17) Golden Frieza (5th Form) (13)
16) SSG Gogeta (Kaioken x10) (12)
15) Golden Cell (SS4 Absorbed) (13)
14) LSS4 Broly 100% (9)
15) SSB3 Goku GT (5)
14) SS4 Limit Breaker Goku : Xeno (15)
13) SS4 Limit Breaker Vegeta : Xeno (15)
12) Jiren 100% (12)
11) SSB Gogeta (6)
10) TSSR3 Baby Vegito Black (9)
9) SSB4 Goku GT (5)
8) Berrus 100% (3)
7) Super Full Power Jiren (12)
8) Gogeta GT (Super Saiyan 4) (8)
7) SS4 Vegito: Xeno (15)
6) SSB Gogeta (15)
7) SSB Vegito (8)
6) SSB Vegito ( Kaioken x10) (8)
5) FPSS4 Vegito (15)
4) SSBE Gogeta (15)
3) SSBE Gogeta (Kaioken x20) (12)
2) SSBE Gogeta (Kaioken x20 100%) (15)
1) Vegito Xeno Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker
I have a video idea!!!
(What if)I got a girlfriend
Probably not happening
this is a very relateable and underrated comment lmao
stay tunned on next epsode of...
REA-LI-TY
Jean lol
Some people that react to your videos always skip the scaling part
then when they see something that they disagree with, they say "this shit sucks" "man buulllshiit"
if they didn't skip the scaling they'd fucking understand
The fact that GT golden Frieza is more powerful than kaio-ken Gokhan and even base Jiren but less powerful than super sayian 4 broly while even in his fith golden form is terrifying.
10:15
When can we see that sixth form of Frieza?
The only thing thats weird for me is seeing Gokhan so high
He was supposedly be in the Z era and I dont see him being stronger than any god forms
Considering that a Gohan who regained his strength was SSB Level, and the fusion between Goku and Vegeta made Vegito so powerful. And there is a huge gap between Goku and Gohan, bigger if you compare Vegeta to Gohan. So it makes sense
@@michaelnash3218 i did find it bs that gohan was able to hit ssjb despite him being evenly matched against ssj2 a second before
@@xhale671 Power havent been consitent for a while.
Fusion is like, an absurdly high multiplier of power. In the Broly film, Gogeta in his base form did better against Broly (who had kept getting stronger for an entire hour, mind you) than Goku and Vegeta working together in their Blue form.
Basically, imagine Goku or Gohan in the Buu saga recieving Blue as a form. Gokhan in his base form would be way over half, and he was in Gohan's Ultimate form. So yeah, I don't have a hard time believing he could keep up with Super-era characters.
Just a question but is your name....
*Hi your in jutsu*
He your in jutsu**
Pronounced Your-in-jutsu
If you've watched Bleach, you'd know of Hyourinmaru, which is where I assume he got the Hyourin part from.
Tuffleized Rosé Full-Power: Kaio-Ken ×100 Baby Vegito Black VS Beerus
Hold on, in What-if #14, Goku Black's base power was more powerful than Vegeta's Super Saiyan, yet Vegeta was able to kick his butt around when using the same transformation?
That's even more badass than it was in hindsight.
He was letting vegeta trash him around in order to get a zenkai
Honestly, that Vegeta is probably the most badass character from all these animations. Not only is he already superior to the Goku of his timeline, being chosen for the God ritual instead of him, he also faces Goku Black, who came to this timeline for just some training and to get non-fatally injured. Despite being outmatched from the very beginning, Vegeta unlocks a completely new form mid-fight, and manages to actually win the fight and force Black to run away (even though this worked for Black's long-term advantage, he 100% didn't plan on getting his ass whooped the way he did: the very fact that Vegeta survived proves that). He was basically put into a seemingly unwinnable battle, similar to Goku in What-If #13, but unlike that Goku, he actually managed to pull through with what was basically sheer determination.
@@creativename1673 Theirs a Theory Going Around as well that What if no. 4 And What if no. 14 Vegeta are From the Same Timeline but it isn't Confirmed by Hyrunjutsu.
@@rakhimitra2193 Wow, even though it's not official, that just makes him even cooler. Now I'm wondering how exactly that timeline would have went between Frieza and Black's visit.
With my cracked understanding of scaling, Baby Vegeto Black with the Kaioken should be weaker than SSJ4 Gogeta.
My understanding is that Baby Vegeta never got the Blutz waves bonus needed to be equal to his DBGT canon self.
Shadow Dragon saga Goku should be much stronger than Baby at that point.
Baby Vegeta (What if), SSJR Goku Black, Baby Vegeta (canon), SSJ4 Broly, SSJ4 Vegeta, SSJ4 Goku, Omega Shenron, Baby Vegeto Black (Kaioken x10), Beerus (Ultra Instinct), SSJ4 Gogeta
3:25 Rank 77 Future Gohan says “Super Saiyan 2” instead of “Super Saiyan 3”
so now we know, that vegeta will use Super Saiyan *God* Evolution!
(yep that's a short comment idc)
денис данилов We also know which is more powerful and might win.
@@Damocles107 I don't wanna be that guy, but.......
If you looked closely, What if 14 is an event that took place after What if 7 (Future Gohan vs Goku Black) and before What if 9 (Black and Baby vs Broly)
So.....yeah....
Karan Rawat yeah I noticed that a while ago
Just so yall know, these video isnt power scaling the actual characters from the show. They are from his what if storys which aren't the same as the actual show. So you all can stop argueing over who was placed where.
This is amazing! Love the lore and the world you've put together.
8:23 THERE'S MY BOY! He managed to pull the win against someone massively stronger than himself. What a beast. Definitely your best What If so far!
When poweups and new forms actually *HAVE* a reason and not just came out of thin air.... Congratulations sir, you're the only one that could've pull this off.
this is how powerscaling is done. Takes into account training, transformations, and other factors. Nicely done, hyourinjutsu!
I do understand you can't really put him in power scaling since we never saw him actually fights, but...where you gonna put SSj4 Vegito (Xeno)? He did say he will investigate the distortion evolution blue Gogeta Kaioken X 20 cause...
What If 15 is out
@@galaxystudios370 Now we know that probably he will be Top 1
This is a great dragondex,however, it lacks ssj5 broly
But it's still good overall
@yoval keshet
Exactly, thats also why UI goku never appeared aswell he has been shown but he was never used in a fight
@@ICTON123 He Appeared in What if No. 13 and 9 in one of Those Explainations and Actually Appeared in The End Credits Scene of What if no.10 but That's it
@@rakhimitra2193
Well the first 2 were just images, not like Kefla was added to the scale cause of that.
And the moment in Goku vs Goku was kinda UI, but not really. DBS at that point was not conscious when he went Omen then and it also went away in a moment. It could be called a partial unlocking but still not the actual Omen. UI is a bit different in the Manga as well, just a bit.
Well, *_What if #14_* will be epic. Those sneak peeks sure look great and that character info description is sweet. Hope it isn't a dark What if like *_What if #13._*
Time stamps and transformations/information related to *_"What if #14."_*
Vegeta SS: 2:47
Vegeta SSG: 6:56
Vegeta SSG (Evolved): 7:22
Goku Black (With tail): 3:06
Goku Black SS: 4:05
Goku Black SS (Kaio-ken): 5:50
Goku Black SS4: 6:50
The fact that Jiren, an unfused mortal, possesses such an insane level of power that even outpaces certain GOD FUSIONS, is absolutely insane here.
Dragonball Side; This was such an amazing list. The insight!
Pokemon Side; UNOVA FOREVER!!
Huh, interesting... Showing the power levels of every character from you LEGENDARY Dragon Ball What-if videos. Smooth Hyourinjustu, smooth.
10:16
Man, Did you call it or what?
"Official Power Scaling"
*shows dragon radar in the thumbnail*
11:11
Xeno Goku: *Nervous Laughter*
Anime War Goku: Excuse me?
Llama64 ligit bruhhh I forgot about him lol
@@llama64ligit10 that poor excuse of a anime yea no archie sonic would win i know hes apart of this vid but i think he could win
SSG WISON
why is Archie Sonic being brought up? The series being bad doesn't change the fact that he's strong. Omni God Goku was one limiter away from being Omnipoint. If Gogeta Omni God is close to the True Omni King then Goku should be able to stomp Archie Sonic but that's just me
@@llama64ligit10 first off that's a shit series and not canon plus Omni doesnt mean anything Archie sonic is 11-D and He toyed with Gods in his super form for gods sake
This power rank is the most accurate and details (with reason) have i ever seen.
Its not that Super Saiyan 4 is Stronger than Super Saiyan Blue, which it Certainly is not. But it's the fact that so much time had past for GT Goku that he had gotten stronger, especially since we're talking about GT Kid Goku at the END of GT and coupled with his adult form it made him overwhelmingly more powerful than alot of the many forms of Super Goku. This is Very appearant seeing as how even a normal super Saiyan 4 was able to combat with a Mastered Super Saiyan Blue (Even though I believe Blue Kaioken is Stronger than this form, but I guess that debate is for another time).
Edit:Not sure why I made this comment here instead of its corresponding what if video, but I'll keep it there for those who got mad at the outcome of what if #10. You're welcome I guess-
The animation is amazing but jiren getting that strong with “determination” is just a load of nonsense, no offence or disrespect
It happened in the show lol
So, W14 Vegeta as a Super Saiyan God Evolved is somewhat equal to Baby Vegeta's Tuffleized SSJ3?
That would have been an epic fight.
Remember that Vegeta is way older and so has a much stronger base form
So many characters being above Goku SSB4 is crazy.
I wanna see two things and I’d be happy:
DBS Broly vs what if Broly
And
Baby vegito black vs SSB vegito
I'd be interested as well but I honestly think DBS Broly is the strongest iteration of Broly yet.
Also what version of SSB Vegito would it be?
Erickson Simeon well maybe I should’ve clarified and said SSJ 4 Broly. Although you are correct, the DBS iteration of Broly is definitely the strongest version of Broly, maybe even stronger than jiren. And as for vegito, the iteration that fought SSJ 4 gogeta
*me looks for dead meme
Also me: ITS OVER 9000
The start of the hyourinjutsu verse
2:50
What if #14 eh? I see some hints for the sequel of Goku Black vs future Gohan.
Or you announced it an Paterson and I missed it lol
And 3:13
He made a community post a while back, this is indeed a sequel to Goku Black vs Future Gohan
Ah thanks :)
Yh Super Saiyan 4 Goku Black vs Super Saiyan God Vegeta. This will be fun.
Vegeta: "How?! How are you so much more powerful than me?!?!?"
Goku Black: "Because Vegeta a rose by any other name... is still Goku."
A minute and thirty seconds in and all this really did was convince me that I should watch Dragon Ball Super: Broly again.
So I guess that Super Saiyan 4 Vegito took the number 1 spot now?
Maybe not exactly I mean Xeno Vegito absorbed the powers of Gogeta to be able to go FPSSJ4 and SSJ4 Limit Breaker. Even then Gogeta received a zenkai boost + fighting = getting stronger.
Curious to know where Goku's Ultra Instinct variations would fit into this scale. Also, I love that the maximum-stated-power scaling for each individual character, taking into account all of their myriad transformations, is thus (just LOOK at the PL-Jumps):
WI4 Super1 Vegeta
WI4 'Final' Frieza
WI7 Super3 Gohan (Future)
WI2 Super3 Gohan
WI11 Super3 Goku
WI2 PU Gohan
WI11 PU Gohan
WI1 Legend3 Boly
WI11 'Absorbent' Super Buu
WI6 PU Gohan
WI3 Super4 Goku
WI14 Super4 Goku Black
WI7 Rose Goku Black
WI9 TSuper3 Baby Vegeta
WI14 GodE Vegeta
WI1 Blue Goku
WI6 Blue Vegeta
WI10 Super4 Goku
WI6 Blue*10 Goku
WI11 PU*10 Gokhan
WI13 Super4*20 Goku (likely higher, does NOT take his Zenkai into account, since Goku determined his Kaioken was unviable beforehand)
WI10 PBlue Goku
WI9 Rose*10 Goku Black
WI6 Golden&God Cell
WI5 Golden Cell
WI13 Golden 'Cooler' Frieza
WI13 Golden&Super4 Cell
WI9 Legend4++ Broly
WI6 Blue Gogeta
WI9 Rose&TSuper3 Baby Vegito Black
WI3 Beerus
WI5 Blue&Super4 Goku
WI12 Super Jiren
WI8 Super4 Gogeta
WI8 Blue*10 Vegito
WI12 BlueE*20 Gogeta
Who would watch a HyourinJutsu video at 3am
Me: OH BOY 3AM
Now we just need a complete transformation guide
Something like this?
www.patreon.com/posts/introducing-what-23346574
@@jhuniorardaya1188 thanks
I really appreciate the work behind those animations, and I would love to see those characters that you animate in a M.U.G.E.N. the idea would not be entirely bad also because it will be fantastic to see the characters you animated on youtube on our screen and play them
This was epic considering there’s no action. You constantly outdo yourself man.
If I could make a request...
Baby Vegito Black vs. Gogeta Blue
I religiously come to this channel now whenever there is new content or when I want to see something awesome to kill time
Also I love how he teased a ssj4 vegito vs ssb gogeta but doesn't show on here but a ssj4 Goku black and SSG evolution Vegeta is on here
It's interesting to see characters classified like this. We can compare participants of any What-if at any time.
Example: We now know that Super Buu would probably hold his ground, even against the Broly from What-if #9, and so forth.
I hope you do an updated version when a few more videos are done.
Talk about foreshadowing, the updated version was confirmed recently to be in the works via a community post.
There's been quite a few animations since this one, I wonder if Hyourin ever plans on doing updated versions in the future? I'd be down for a new ranking set every so often to show where new versions of characters fell on the power scaling, plus the little trivia bits within them are always a good time.
He's said that another one will eventually be coming, and I'm definitely excited for it as well!
I'm very curious as to where some characters like Cumber, UE Vegeta, UI Goku and Xeno Vegito land, precisely.
@@gabrielcote8211 Oh nice! Yeah, it'd be cool if every couple of animations this style of video gets updated, even just to add the newer characters used since then. All his animations are fire, but the lore-style vids are great too.
Would be funny if he included Majin Piccolo and Prillin in it too even though they were just cameo gags in an intro.
I like that he’s hinting at new projects with characters like Friezas form and then actually saying the future projects like Goku Black vs Vegeta