Lecture: Biblical Series XIV: Jacob: Wrestling with God
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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In this lecture, I present the second half of the story of Jacob, later Israel (he who struggles with God). After serving his time with his uncle Laban, and being deceived by him in the most karmic of manners, Jacob returns to his home country. On the way, he encounters an angel, or God Himself, wrestles through the night with Him. Successful in his encounter, he still sustains damage to his thigh, but earns the name Israel, and becomes the father of all those who to this day wrestle with God.
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And the angel said to Jacob, "Stop hitting yourself!" But he could not stop, for the angel was hitting him with his own hands.
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I was wondering why that part was erased in the first place
You win
That was amazing! God probably laughed at that one too.
tieltavisvt "stop hitting THYSELF..."
And the angel said unto him, “stop hitting thine self, stop hitting thine self,” but lo, he could not, for the angel was hitting him with his own hands.
Bedtime just got postponed for another 2 hours and 32 minutes.
Andrew Schweighardt ironically, whenever I’m plunged into chaos it’s because I was up all night watching these lectures.
Fax
You can increase the watch speed on settings.
Andrew Schweighardt 2 years later, same
I’m here from March 2020, time is 11:50PM, and I literally just had the same thought. seeing it written out when I open the vid is hilarious
I'm a simple man. I see a Biblical Lecture, I start cleaning my room.
I've got a pimple and some hair. Giving me subliminal pressure, to start to begin to groom.
Good job Ben, good job. That room better be clean, it's been 3 years.
A diamond is considered simple, but beautiful. Jesus promoted simplicity too, the Greatest Teacher. ✌
Yes
Get your lobsters in order young man
Those ideas somehow are helping me overcome severe depression. Thank you so much Dr. Peterson.
The only cure for depression is to let it all go.
Glad to hear that . Fight the good fight.
life is awesome. Your person and your problems are separated and not one and the same. Our brains have silly algorithms that like to get stuck and „recommend“ the same shit over and over again. Dont „trust“ your brain too much.... trust your persona more, the guy you are supposed to be.
Jacob and God’s WWE makes your depression go away?
D.J w
I can't wait to watch his lecture on Job story
Who's with me?
Man I wish he had covered Job. And God killing 70k of his chosen people bc David had the people in the city counted...love to know how that is alright and useful.
@@LVXMagick *tips fedora*
He has smaller lecture clips online where he talks about the story of Job as an “ultimate suffering story.” Not as in-depth as this, but still great.
He's spoken about Job but this series is focused on Genesis. He was going to do a series on Exodus and travel to Cambridge to use their theology department to help prepare but SJWs made Cambridge disinvite him.
@@LVXMagick if you want to know how it was alright and useful I dont think you get the point of this series its to study the psychology behind the stories not to try and justify them and prove they're useful instead study them and try to infer what the thought behind it was back in a time when the only way we really tried to explain what was going on in the world was looking at our surroundings and how we perceive things and coming up with at the time the most logical explanation
Real stories with real people trying to find the truth. Timeless.
Adam S this is the second comment I find you in talking nonsense. Go clean your room
UA-cam A.w. tozer. [HOLY SPIRIT, why some people can't receive him] cleared it up for me.
@EveryChevyChase . Mlm
@@omarperez1297 l hi t.
@@RegionalRadioShackManager Ultimately there is no objective reason why he should go clean his room if God doesn't exist. 😊
I spent my life thinking that they were just some dumb outdated non well written reports to terrify kids and now when I listen JBP explaining some of the symbols I get amazed with all meaning and wisdom they carry. And he is more likely giving a introduction for these interpretations. There is so much more to sudy in each one of them.
same
Cadu Steig agreed
They are bottomless.
I agree Sir
The fact that we've lost the symbolism and hidden meaning in these stories is evidence of just how far we've strayed from the path of god
If you care for someone, you encourage them, allow them to face challenges, you don't protect them....Love this idea!
Thats a dumb idea. If you know things. You should share with the ones you love. Dont lie to them and watch them fall.
@@rainephachoumphone9175 Nobody spoke about lying and seeing them fall...you are mixing things.
Not. You do too protect them when it's warranted. You nurture them. Within safe enough limits. You help them race karts, but knock out the punk that tried to attack them. Sheesh.
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Ahahaha...the sheesh at the end of this comment, priceless! Cheers! ^.^
@@rainephachoumphone9175 if you protect them, they can't learn, they don't get to know themselves, they'll be lost without you.
My baby brother’s name was Jacob. He died when he was around 1 year old due to a intestinal problem. He was in the same room, and I remember the day quite vividly. My family found solace in faith that one day we would see him again. I have been in and out the faith throughout my life. Recently I have come back to my faith with the state of current affairs. Bless this man for his deep knowledge of many beautiful subjects❤️
Sorry for your loss, I lost a nephew at a similar age. It broke me watching my brother carry him to our plot, life and suffering can be difficult to comprehend.
Bless yee and I wish you good luck
Grew up Orthodox Christian and I've never had a priest portray any of the stories like this. Thanks Jordan!
There are few priests in ANY Christian denomination that can put context like this onto a Human.
Orthodox denomination focuses more on tradition, that is why you did not hear much preaching. But you can yourself read the bible and study it. You could start with John Gospel (because at first you might find other parts boring or hard to understand). The Old Testament has many prophecies, and the New Testament fulfill those prophecies, so the best is to understand it depending on context.
I have. He just enriches these stories.
That's because the Bible portrays the story in a very compact way. It's up to you to figure it out. Even as an 8 year old, no doubt you understood the metaphor of Esau selling his birthright so cheaply? If not, there is no sense in analyzing the more complicated aspects!
You should check out Bishop Robert Barron. Dr. Peterson had a discussion with him recently. You may not be Catholic, which I am not, but the way in which he explains the faith is rife full of wisdom that many could benefit from religious or not.
God bless all the patreon supporters. My room is not clean enough to donate as of yet...... But I'm getting there.
I'd like to get into this patreon thing. Dr. Peterson mentioned it here and ther but I haven't looked into it yet.
Likewise.
As is mine but I will get there
The neuroscience and neurophysiology on these lectures are so fascinating. Dr. Peterson is so brilliant that he could bring psychology, neurophysiology, and biblical/relevant literature together into this lecture series. It’s so impressive and I am so thankful.
I know you don't see yourself as a religious leader but you have inspired me to be a better man and to strengthen my relationship with God. HE has his hand on your life and it is clear to see the Holy Spirit working on you and through you in which many "men of faith" are lacking.
Please continue practicing your gift. Many jewels will you have in your crown.
I can barely get anything out of reading this story and he is able to give a 2 hour lecture, I admire this man's inteligente I can only wish to be half as smart as him.
I have no idea why, but whenever I listen to Dr. Peterson my mind explodes with creativity. And the fascinating thing is that it's not just about what he's saying. It's like listening to him is a catalyst for my mind to come up with new ideas on anything I can possibly think about. It's weird how much it happens. Super random comment.
Very true for me
Sacrificing 2 hours and 32 minutes of my life to watch this video is guaranteed to pay off. Diving in the deep end! This series has already taught me more than ... well, I don't remember any single source teaching me this much, ever.
I sacrifice other areas of my life for the pleasure/growth of these lectures. Learned that what I "sacrificed" was the lesser good.
And Jacob said unto Esau, "Just take the damn goats."
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Don't mock .
@@markdemell8056 Don't flock
dennis vdk don’t mock
Dude I could hear that in Peterson's voice somehow
DR. Peterson, you need to turn these biblical series into a book!! Damn! That would be amazing.
Yeah and you could call it something like...uh, idk...hmm, how about, "The Bible"?!
jaydee_xy it’s Peterson’s interpretation of the bible, not the same thing.
@@joel6633 and for our times MUCH more valuable :D
Or read the Bible yourself
Maps of Meaning has a fair amount of the stuff he is talking about in these lectures. And honestly, if you think the Bible is less valuable now than it was at some other time in the past, you probably haven't learned a DAMN thing from what Peterson is teaching.
Jordan Peterson, since I was a boy I have always had an interest for poetry. The colors, the sounds and the feelings were all so meaningful. My father wasn't a fan, I ended up being an amateur boxer in an attempt to make him one, with goals of turning professional. I guess I had a romantic view of what being a boxer was, and once I got in that world I made the realization that most boxers didn't look at it the way I did and that perhaps I was naive and didn't understand the severity of the struggle to rise out of poverty and it's murky waters. I was disenchanted with boxing and life, but then I heard you and what you had to say. I've never had someone teach me so much, and care so deeply at the same time. It gets me teary eyed just thinking about it now, as my father left when I was young. I do not have a college education, and I had been struggling to find work but I have an interview for a warehouse Wednesday and I'm excited to work diligently, and honestly. You've reminded me how much I love to read. I've picked up Jung and many of his works, Freud, Nietchzhe, The Art of Memory, brave new world, Hermeticism, math and science books aswell as mythology and Doestvsky.
Here is something I'd like to share:
I smelled the summit air
Exhumed the winds of change
But only in my dreams
Woken to distorted thoughts
Could not recall it's means
And once again I reached the peak
But woke and fell in doubt
I call to mind seraphic gleams
A God riding his mount
I had a dream I was in a Mexican mall as a child where everyone was complaining about Trump. (I voted Trump)
Suddenly, The stage changed
And I see a scene in which a hero is running deep in the heart of a forest, seeking someone. There is Christ, in a metallic Cross, with blue and red wires infused in his veins. He is dying.. But the hero is seeking him only to find himself outside a black mansion. He enters to find a man in a black suit, handsome and cunning. They engage in battle but the man tranquilizes the hero and he suddenly begins to fade..
As he fades, the adversary laughs and presses a button.
The veins of Christ.. The wires.. pumping.. And it spreads all over the body until he explodes blood.. The adversary tells the hero that it was a trap. That he shouldn't have tried to save God.
I wake up.. hanging on a cross.. blue and red wires in my veins. Half my face is peeled off, replaced with cybernetics. I can't tell if I'm Christ, but I can tell that I am now the hero I was seeing, I see the world through his eyes and feel all of his suffering. It's so strange, so much deep physical torment, but a transcendence of calm. I close my eyes.. And I see a new scene. An island outside the Forest which is in bystanding island aswell. It is full of animated characters of my childhood. Pokemon, Yugioh, cartoons and such. They are having fun and playing around, when one of them senses me in the middle of the woods. I feel them and they feel me.. And like loyal dogs they come chasing for me.. without so much as a second thought, They come to rescue me. I warn them not to.. that once they arrive the adversary well press his button. The woods are on fire, and the animations fight off machines attempting to reach me in the cross. I feel like we need a miracle..
The dream fades back into the mall in Mexico where an earthquake splits the mall in half and glass comes down and fatally wounds a woman and child. Well.. it turned out, The next day my boss who doesn't talk to me at all, asked me about my family in Mexico because she had heard in the news of an earthquake in Mexico. Apparently there was a story of a woman and her baby that were killed by glass shards falling from the building. I have not read an article on this story, this is only what she told me. But it's an experience I deeply wanted to share with you or to anyone in this channel who is willing to listen and maybe share they're own. This is the only dream I can recall in the past year.
I don't exactly know what's going on here, but reading Jung and taking him seriously had led me into a lot of rabbit holes that almost made me wish I didn't read him.
My end goal is to work at this warehouse, save up for a car and surgery, and if I can't box professionally, I can help the youth and the new generation and be a boxing coach teaching them discipline, courage, strategy and heart while monitoring and limiting the damage they take unlike a lot of trainers that don't take into account CTE.
I want to help my community but before that I want to find my soul and say sorry. I want to apologize for my bitterness and shame.
There is still Cain inside me, and his temptations with Hermeticism are alluring but I think I will find my way. Thank you again Jordan Peterson.
Wow, that comment was really something. I share your sense of gratitude toward Peterson, even though I am in my 60s. You have lots of time to grow these brilliant seeds of wisdom. Good luck, grow strong, do good.
Ur account made me cry. Thank u for sharing, we r all Jesus. We need to be mindful of the communities suffering n do our best to change it.
You are brave and courageous..bravo!!!
You are INCREDIBLE. Please keep writing and best of luck with your honorable goals.
Surely not a beautiful poem, but the backstory made it so much meaningful and unique than others nice poem out there. Thanks for the story man. It made my day.
2:14:34 “ You don’t have to be a mouthpiece.” So perfect.
Can you help me figure out what he meant by that ?
@@user-gw2zn9qk7g It means speak on behalf of a group or organization. I think it had to do with the last bit about the body positivity movement.
@@user-gw2zn9qk7g I think it's more about the guy in red, he is just showing off and being a nasty know-it-all, and the guy in the audience who says “ You don’t have to be a mouthpiece.” just want to shed some light, telling the guy in red " how about some real question for JP and other people, instead of taking up the time and ask the cringe question." BTW, the guy in red asked questions in the previous lectures, those questions were somewhat funny, but this one is getting out of line.
The guy in red asking the question that led to that was irritating as hell. He was an example of what Peterson was talking about when he was referenced people who use the question microphone to give their own lecture to a captive audience who didn't come to listen to them.
Guy in red is just a narcissistic douche
Wow, I was literally just studying Jacob and his wrestling. God is speaking to me through His Word providentially!
NickArcade -- Google "Jung" and "synchronicity" for further elaboration on the experience you've just had. (And consider the relationship between Jung and Peterson for additional synchrony)
@@dfiala9890 lol if I where him you would have annoyed me. Not even gonna cap.
@@dfiala9890 yep. This happens to me all the time. Some people i.e. skeptics say it’s BS, but I believe it… Colin Wilson has also written a lot about synchronicity.
@@OMAELITE yep
That's called a coincidence I thought
Seeing this pop up in my notifications made me the happiest bucko in the land
You're the best bucko.
Learned more about life in this 2 and a half an hour lecture from doctor Peterson than 5 years of college life!!
God created us with free will. He doesnt want you to be forced to worship Him, He wants your heart to do it because you believe Him and know He knows you better than you do.
The final question in the Q&A is extraordinary. It demonstrates just what a powerful cleansing agent thoughtful discourse can be. It’s an exceptionally smart question and JBP humble engagement with it marks him out as a genuinely good man. This series of lectures has proved to be very good for my soul.
The optics in Jordan Peterson’s biblical lectures are kickass. I love the dark background. It’s so existentially cool. Am I alone lol?
Viggo Smiles definitely reading into it a bit haha
God is wonderful, there is much time when some people had an encounter with an angel of God but due to our negligence and not spiritual wise we didn't know.jacob is a believer and truly a son of God before even encountered the angel,it is a shame many christian go to church without even reading the word of God and meditate in it day and night,how can you recognise an angel if you sees one?.
Nice
Its true. Especially the harsh shadows around his eyes. Lmao It's just so dramatically badass
Wikiaskblog ......ALRIGHT ALREADY!!!
To that guy who asked the question about nietzsche at 1:52:00, check out Seneca the Younger. In his Moral Letters (no. 84, specifically, but also throughout the work), he discusses the proper way to interact with past genius.
Basically, balance reading and writing so that you can distill the knowledge of past minds into your own original thoughts. Your new thoughts should be recognizable as derivative from specific sources, but still provide new value to whoever reads your work.
love it dude... fucking cool subject matter... I've been thinking of this myself also... I put it similarly... if you can embody a great thinker's mind - make them your own so to speak... then you can go and apply that to the present and/or look at the implications of those thoughts or ideas in your specific time and place... this places you as the next in line to stretch or pioneer the work to keep it relevant and in alignment with current problems and issues... that's one way of looking at it... reviving the dead father if you will... making a whole new world out of a dead body.... or maybe even revivifying old ideas in new language relevant to the culture in such a way that the spirit or essence can live on... so there are different ways to approach it... This would also include refining the ideas so the dead wood is burned up and that in a sense is making it your own because you are rejecting what you find to be unworthy of passing through yourself so you are not simply a mirror but the next form of the idea that could ultimetly be quite different but maybe not, none the less it is your own.. to a certain extent.... but I enjoy your practical advice on reading and writing that sums it up nicely and is probably more straight to the point with being able to recognize clearly your thoughts and how others' thoughts are integrated. I keep notes or a fact book of quotes and re-written breakdowns of ideas including my own drawing and diagrams that capture the essence of the ideas... then I think of those sets of notes as a toolbox and each idea a tool... then I grab them and use them to do different things, combine them with other ideas, look at their implications and explore an unexplored part of the idea, find localized applications of the idea... etc etc...
Or OG Marcus Aralius.
This kind of reminds me of the scene in Good Will Hunting when the guy in the bar tries to impress a girl by showing how much information he memorized from textbooks while attending Harvard. The Matt Damon character calls him out on this for just memorizing without thinking things out for himself. Maybe irrelevant, but it made me think of that scene, and other intellects I’ve run into who seem to speak as if they are a pre recorded lecture.
Jordan Peterson literally fought the devil in a dream n won. Legend.
Younger generations are no longer urged to read the bible in our era and thus it was necessary for Jordan to emerge.
“They can’t sacrifice the present for the future” that is a really deep way of describing how a wolf eats. Only dr Peterson..
But wolves do store food. So do crows
Today I spent time searching “how Jordan Peterson is wrong” because there’s no way it’s healthy the way I’ve been devouring his content.
I like to see both sides to make sure I’m not missing anything and making mistakes. Not many valid arguments against his ideas, but some. It’s interesting.
Dan Dimit But do you feel more sorted now?
But did you clean your room?
Care to share with us the ones you think are valid?
I should try to formulate them... It's so annoying slogging thru all the wrong arguments against his position... I've only spent a small amount of time on it so far, but I think it's important to make sure I'm not missing anything. So far, the semi-valid arguments against his position are only superficial and don't take into consideration a lot of the nuance. I'll try to spend more time on it.
Dan Dimit i did that in May and believe me it was way harder to find anything to arrest my obsession. Now with all the left pushback thr newbies and the inquisitive will finder it challenging to sort through it quickly.
Candace Malcolm, a canadian writer, did a great video on a neg article about our boy which I hope lots get to see.
Need to exercise self control so I won't drop everything that I am doing to watch this for the rest of the evening. LOL
Exacly hahaha
we are just primates full of snakes
go clean your room!
that sounds like wrestling with god
Who's the nonsense art question guy?
I could listen to you for hours. And then I start all over again. Thank you Dr. Peterson!
What a blessing it is to be able to come here and take a course with Professor Peterson. Jordan, I hope you are feeling much better these days. All of you.
This man explains to me what my Sunday School Teacher never could! It’s like I’m listening to the most advanced intellectual Sunday-School teacher in history! Everything he says explains to me the things I have always wondered about! Thank you Jordon Peterson for your unbelievable breadth of understanding and integration!
Your Sunday school teacher was not explaining archetypal concepts. He/she was teaching the tenets of your faith. You wouldn't have been able to handle this, anyway, as a child. As an adult this series is enriching my faith incredibly.
this is great. I hold bible study groups with some of our church and this is really deeply expanding my understanding and appreciation of the meanings we often miss when we just take things at face value.
much appreciated Jordan peterson for all the time spent on these lectures and the free uploads :)
Amen
It's great that you ponder the verses of your holy book. Many Muslims in my faith don't do the same.
This is awesome, slay that dragon. I was smothered by my mom and quite the wallflower, but God gave me an idea to interview people about their car every visit to the gas station and that might be two times a week. I learned so much about interacting with people, they love to talk about their car and I found out what car to buy. Also, I became more courageous. Thanks Mr. Peterson.
Facing your fears voluntarily I see 👏
The Q&A is one of your best yet. Amazing. I had to listen the Q&A at least twice, and will listen again to pinpoint the ideas learned.Mind blown roughly at 1:35:00 Your descriptions of little kids' dreams and fears really made me a more competent parent to my 2 year old. He says he's scared of stuff sometimes, and I usually go into "problem solving" mode and I ask him "what should we do about this scary stuff?" and hearing you say it totally validated my actions, and now I'll just... you know.. keep doing what "feels right" as a parent.... because my "feels right" is probably a culmination of 1,000s of years of indirect ancestral knowledge. Thank you. I can trust my instincts sometimes, now.
Sometimes 🙂 i like that part of this
This is remarkably similar to my own thinking. I grew up in a Lutheran Church but I never got the ideas to stick because I think they were teaching it wrong. The tough thing is that a lot of people don't project these ways of thinking so you start to think those moral instincts are just wrong. But hearing that Peterson has psychologically proved otherwise is reassuring.
What a brilliant mind. He helps me find the truth. Thank you Peterson.
I really love how much he talks with hands during this whole lecture.
Men, my favorite hobby is watching his video's while playing simple videogames. I love the combination! I am now in the proces of discipline myself, it is not easy, especially as a ADD guy with a lazy attitude, but I have make great proces, I think I got my efficiency up, with something between 20-40%, for me, that is huge! I even start noticing some changes in my conscienceness, the one I feel most relieved and happy for, is the establishment of selfconfidience. The knowing that in the eye of desire, I can say no, and do what is necessary, even if that thing does not give me that instant shot of satisfation. I am building trust! Thank you Jordan!
I know it's been one year since you wrote this comment but what's ADD.
@@misterconfidence1171 Attention Deficit Disorder. I hope I got that right.🙂
r/stopgaming
Do yourself a favour and at least limit it. I've been there and nowadays I feel a lot better without these artificial Dopamine kicks. Gaming is a very strong stimulant (talking about games like League) and pretty addictive after all. Don't lie to yourself - that's the most common deceit.
Thank you Dr Peterson. I know that you have been through much for the sacrifices that you have made to try to enlighten others in the midst of darkness. May you have rest and peace for awhile in order to rebuild your strength. Blessings to you and your family.
I’m a junior in college architecture tract. I’ve learned more from this video than any of my three years of classes, and it came with such a desire for questions unanswered
I love you brother Peterson. You are the salt of the earth- may God be your truth that brings you home to him.
Fascinating lecture! When Peterson went through Jacob wrestling with God at 1:13:08 I thought it was a little bit of a let down because it was so brief. But, that is a little minor note to the immense amount of information in this particular lecture, incredible nuggets of gold everywhere. I paused at this moment however, and this is what I came up with:
Jacob just separated his belongings into two caravans, anticipating the ill will of his brother not to be abated by 14 years of separation. All of his toil, hard work, belongings, his whole life is at stake.
He can do what his brother Esau did, which is to harbor resentment to the point of murder. He is at the crossroads. That's where you meet the devil:)
And so he wrestles with Being. He has to fight his darker impulses, he has to believe that life can be good, at least it can be worth living despite the suffering. He will pay the price for it, he will limp for the rest of his life. If he chooses life, it will batter him, because he chooses to believe in the good of being rather than turn against it and become Cain.
He is the one who wrestles with God and wins. That is his new name, Israel. I don't think it is incidental that Israel historically encompasses the same idea, roughly speaking:) These people constantly wrestle with God and win, limping every step of the way through the centuries. Perhaps, given their history and their resilience (countless examples could be given), they are the least likely people to bounce back, and not just bounce back but find meaning in life, reinvigorate their culture, etc. Other nations have the same kind of histories, particularly genocide (take a look at the Armenian genocide).
Clean your room, slay your dragons, rescue your father from the belly of the whale, wrestle with God.
I love what you do, have for at least three years. I'm a newly reborn Christian(2 months). I'm trying so hard and all I want is to strive for God not thrive for I. It's a tough road.
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I've read that Israel means "He is a prince of God". Interesting to hear many interpretations.
Waiting for JBP Wave 3! Have played the first two parts almost everyday!
Sriram Kumar he's harvesting
Arden you are correct. Jacob earned the name that have a meaning you have pointed out, but he received it because he wrestled with God. Peterson got it a but wrong I am afraid.
No, it doesn't mean 'he is a prince of God'. It means 'he that fought/strived with God.' The Hebrew etymology is well explained on Etymology.com -- or you could ask anyone who speaks Hebrew.
www.etymonline.com/word/israel
This is the rawest form of preaching. It's just a dude telling people his interpretation of a biblical story and what lesson he thinks can be drawn from it. What I really like about it is this doesn't have the theatrics and fear mongering and pretentiousness of a typical preacher. This just sounds like a guy thinking outloud
That last question was phenomenal. I have never heard such an insightful question from an audience member before in all of my time watching these lectures.
On the question of why go into the solitude.. here is a partial clue. 'Desert' in Hebrew is 'midbar' it has the same root as 'medaber' which means 'to speak'.. so when one goes into the desert.. he is able to hear the voice.. and to gain clarity. In the bible all purification processes are 40.. 40 days.. years etc.. the purification bath contains 40 parts of water.. this gives us a clue that clarity and purification can be found alone..(like a beast that goes into a corner to lick its wound). This solitude is not forever.. like buddhists.. one must return to humanity in the end.
Karen Ohana You need to do this on all his videos from here on. I'll look for you. Are you studied in the New Testament as well?
I have written stuff on most of his Biblical videos. The problem with the new testament is that it isn't written in the holy language of Hebrew.. therefore although it might have a certain intellectual depth.. it lacks spiritual depth (I don't mean to hurt your feelings if you believe in this) and it is impossible to reach the same levels. The actual LETTERS of Hebrew have a meaning in their shape.. in their numerical value.. in their name and so too with each word (the word for 'donkey' for example is not just the name of the thing.. it implies the actual NATURE OF BEING of that thing.. this is true with all ancient Hebrew).
Many hidden truths can be uncovered by studying the language.. did you know for example that the first sin ever was done by the fruit trees?
When the new testament was written that HUGE GINORMOUS library of knowledge contained within the Hebrew language was not used.. and the teachings of the new testament therefore lack depth and richness. Don't get me wrong.. there is wisdom there.. but it hangs on precepts that are 100% alien to Judaism and are therefore an affront to Judaism .. one enormous example.. Judaism claims that G-D is one.. and cannot take human form.. G_D is all there is.. there is none but HIM..This is a central belief. I don't have to point out to you how far from Judaism, therefore, Christianity is.
Karen Ohana Well you'll be useful for a while yet. He's still got a long way to go.
great insights
Remarkable
"If an idea didn't incarnate itself in you, transforming your perceptions and your actions, then you were merely possessed by the idea. You were merely a spokesperson for the idea. You're a puppet for the idea. It's not you. The idea is in you and it has taken you. You haven't taken the idea, incorporated it within you and made it part of your life."
That's why too many Christians and Anti-theists flops as soon as they realized they haven't really applied the idea, BUT merely became a spokesperson of it.
My 100th time watching this hoping I could be 1/2 the psychologist you are. God bless you, Jordan
"Your category system, which is what structures your perceptions, is actually dependent on the ethics of your aim." Beautifully said,
I watch one of Jordan's videos every month or so. My brain can't handle any more. However the material is so heavy- and real- that it actually takes me that long to hash it all out. He explains things in excellent essay format, and by some weird miracle I can actually retain his long-winded speaking.
I'm totally addicted. I'm watching 2 or 3 every day. Listening in my car as I drive.
Im watching one every day my brain can't process more.
Im watching one per day too ❤🙏
Being Israeli I love how he translates the names of people and places, I never actually paid too much attention to the meaning of them, until now, which is ironic, because I know hebrew and I can understand the original writings.
I thought they were originally written in Aremaic?
Aramaic is a semitic language just like Hebrew, so the meaning wouldn’t change. It’s like Romance language and the Latin word Deus, in all the latin languages the meaning still remains
When he talks about his sister in laws son having those night terrors, I always wonder how real they felt to him. Since 4 or 5 i had night terrors like that, always vivid and usually ended after I died. When you are in a dreamscape that pushes the boundries of reality it becomes harder and harder each time to tell yourself it's a dream, especially when the pain can bleed out into the real world.
I simply was not aware of this world renowned professor of psychology turned preacher. Amazing
He's not a preacher, but a seeker. I love watching his walk.
I am number 12 in a family of 14 children and at the risk of sounding arrogant ,I am sure that my older siblings would say that I am the smart one in the family .I have seen and heard it from them at a distance and in the way they came to me for answers when they had a problem to solve or a math or spelling problem.I remember one day when the oldest said that she does not worry about me like the others because she knows that I will just bounced back like a rubber ball.That statement she made helped my confidence .
A smart person doesn't need to say they are smart.....People will know by the words that come from your mouth
@@30guarino I did not say I was smarter than every one or genius ,Just smarter than my siblings .Don't put words in my mouth now.I am no dummy .
It wasn’t a jab at you Mark... I should’ve worded my comment to say “their” mouth instead of “your” .... I’m the youngest of 6 and like your initial comment I can relate!
the best psychology knowledge sharer i have met online! GOD BLESS YOU, THIS MAN for all the good you've done for the falling people.
Resurrection of Christianity by taking on the form of the Phoenix. Shedding its' archaic form into something relatable and intriguing.
Z T more like reconciling christianity with science and atheism
Local Toast perhaps. But perhaps present day Christianity is too archaic and (i dare to say) rigid. Considering the history of religion BUT especially Christianity, is not the form of religion fluid? We burned people at the stake centuries ago for what is now considered scientific fact. My argument in favor of the OP comment is simply this: what if the post modern Christian thought was FULL of philosophy including the words of Christ (which separates a jew from a christian in simplicity). Christians burned Christians in the US for nonsense in the new land, and many times has Christianity hurt it's own, or at least the fellow man that the basic Christianity advocated against hurting. I am not a Christian anymorex but if there was a Sunday meeting of philosophy such as this that was based on white/western values, I would attend every week.
I was thinking in terms of the Phoenix.
I don't hope for that; I hope that this is us trying to understand things of value brought up from the deep foundations of western civilisation...things we've cast aside in relatively recent history, assuming we have nothing to learn. I think it's fair to say most westerners don't understand (or respect) the structure this is all built on, and in the times we find ourselves in today, that's probably something we should correct
BIBLE = Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. - My Pastor
When I overcame my fear of making a mistake in hockey ,when I was young . I broke free and became more dynamic and did some things athletically I did not even know I could do .I became much more creative and I went from a good player to a better player.I also became a target for the others teams and when that happened I just turned up the heat and grew even better and more creative.
Jordon, Thank you for making your lectures accessible to me.
I love how when the body positivity movement was mentioned, everyone just broke into laughter.
Thanks. I need to reformulate that question and make it shorter.
I find it bad as it reminds me of how people laugh at things as if it's some sort of argument against the thing itself. If something ought to be taken seriously enough that one finds themselves decidedly against it, I'm not sure what's so funny about that
@@halflifeguitarist4224 sometimes when things evolve into a satirical caricature of itself it essentially becomes an argument against itself. Which at this point, the Body Positivity movement absolutely has.
I absolutely LOVE Jordan's telling of this story!
This era of Jacob is fascinating and recalls the time of when I fought monsters in my own childhood. I wore a hat and cowboy boots though I admire this child for making his coat and hat armor. Thanks for sharing!
I love how he could have referenced any number of movies or books but he mentions FUBAR. Albertan to the core! Class act
Worst question ever at 2:11:00. I was there live and could hardly avoid melting in my seat.
dude what the fuck was that though? was it a goof?
Kevin Makins lol! that was a shitfest. definite troll
Omg... the cringe ...............
Seems like a Sam-Hyde-at-TEDx-type troll..
I think that might be the redditor that wrote the famous "To br fair, you have to have a really high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" comment
In fact im sure of it, looking at him
I’m glad you pointed the camera at the people asking the question- really makes a difference ….great stuff!
"Citizen Peterson" guy should rent his own lecture hall if he's so interested in lecturing people.
God Bless you, Sir....
you've brought me some clarity in very dark times and, I appreciate you.
Thank you.
I totally adore JP. I'd rather indulge in his verbal skills than to socialize.....that's terribly worrying! 💅
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I'm isolating temporarily due to some factors, but whst doing so I'm listening to this series and it's keeping me sane and helping me immensely! It's keeping me going forward....its helping me clean house. It's profound. It's wonderful. I'm learning so much whilst I thought I was stagnant. X
@@eldona7747 would you please update us on your well-being? :)
This lecture had the Best questions by the students!! Awesome answers by Jordan too.
I was searching for this message and clicked it. Then I realized it was Jordan Peterson!! I love it
Jordan, Dr Peterson.
This is medicine to mine ears.
It's good work.
Thank you
Wow I needed this today.
Thanks Dr. Peterson
This lecture was particularly good, filled with great insights, questions and answers, and great ideas. Thanks for posting, you are awesome! CheerS!
Mr. Peterson, you boldly stand for the truth, time to get to know the One who is the Personification of the Truth!
Well, let the Lord do it in his timing, won't you, Sandy, remember that he is wiser than we are regarding these things.
I could listen to this guy for hours :) ... Very intelligent, and intellect without being intellectual! He just makes you think if what are thinking is correct lol
In video games there’s this thing called a “Check Point” that saves your progress in a particular location.
I think that’s what Jacob does with the stone, he marks the centre of an idea, and to walk away from the stone is to walk further away from that idea into new territory (but within the context of that idea).
So almost like marking the territory of an idea, or its essence of birth and home (or bedroom 😛)
I think thats a very cool connection to make. I never thought of it like that!
35 mins in this lecure seems like an entire book of information while still being very easy to understand.
Professor, I love how you timed this perfectly for the week's Torah portion of the same story - 'Vayishlach' - according to the Jewish calendar. Thank you for yet another fantastic lecture and I look forward to the next one.
It's shame Christians don't speak more about the Torah. I've only come across 1 Christian pastor who says we should be living under Torah.
Jordan Peterson has given us the cheat codes to life with these videos!
JBP is unbelievably impressive. He has the intellectual honesty that is a uniting factor for our divided culture. He has the ability to show the religious right to better understand Nietzsche and Freud and the atheist left to respect the values from the Bible even if you don't agree with everything. Welcome to the new common ground.
Jordan, Jordan never fails to impress and puncture your brain with knowledge and hitting that right spot where you store all the things that nourish you into something, we need more people like you my guy and keep doing you!
This particular lecture is my favourite,it has generated such interesting questions.Hopefully we get to hear the Exodus series soon 🙂.
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Give even attention to the kids
38:00
Order the facts to the most accurate in what your presuing.
Your aim orginases your facts
42:40
Break big things to small things
50:30
Strengthen the fundamentals you grew up in
1:43:30
What could do, about it.
1:50:00
Isolation makes you dream more.
2:02:30
Believing in God makes you less alcoholic
My body is ready professor
Thank you Jordan Peterson. Thank you, thank, you thank you...
You have given me the tools to make a more articulate, More efficient vision of myself. I feel more stable now than I ever have. Thank you from the top of my heart.
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Damn imagine being Cain and Abel and you’ve got to deal with your parents literally betraying God and ruining the Garden of Eden
God answered my prayers by usuing one of my motivational hero to talk about to Bible ❤❤
God is so good
I put these on CD so that I can listen to them in my car. Keep up the good work.
WHAT!? Already!?
I'm doing dishes tonight.
Yamikaiba123 I love listening to these lectures while doing the dishes hahah
@@cameronmapes Also goes well with gardening, cooking, and cleaning - pool included
:D
Dear Dr. Peterson, you are an amazing human being!
Thank you for your thoughtful, heartfelt and courageous work on behalf of our civilization.
We almost lost you, man! We hope you have smooth sailing from here on in. 🌹🌹🌹
That last question was explosively thought-provoking, and I would listen to a full lecture on just that idea.
Can anyone explain the "citizen guy" at 2:11:00? Peterson is a saint because I would have told this guy to shut up and sit down. He seems a troll.
He just vomits up words in an attempt to sound more intelligent than he actually is. Can't fucking stand the guy.
Also it's incredibly disrespectful to the audience. Others have questions, and want to hear Peterson. Just ask a fucking question and sit down. I'd be mortified if I ever found myself behaving like that.
If anyone reading this goes to his next lecture then they should just yell “SKIP” when stupid questions get asked.
carollois65 Fatboy also says something like "Spoken like a man with a room temperature IQ" when Peterson refuses to answer the question. Peterson laughed it off but you could tell it was a "Yeah whatever, pal" kind of laugh. I love how Peterson basically says his answer would bore everyone to death, meaning the question was also pretty boring.
Spoken like a man who's got room-temperature IQ.
This story always confused me as a child in church, because I took it literally.
nonam namrson that's one I liked about Catholic school. They made sure to explain it as theology and philosophy and religion also. Helped out a lot.
@Adam S Simmer down there sunshine. It doesn't challenge the legitimacy of your religion to accept that some of the stories in the bible are to be taken philosophically instead of literally. Jesus himself used parables.
You go case by case and make a judgment based on the evidence.
Actually, Jacob literally wrestled with God.
It was literal.
Angels did come down.
JBP seems to have missed the symmetry of God asking Jacob his name before giving him his blessing? He previously lied to Isaac about who he was.
Great point Clement.
Still using these to keep me grounded years later. So much to unpack. Hope to hear from you soon, Dr. Peterson.
The Father sees us as Jesus because we are covered by his blood.
I discovered this Biblical Series recently . It's great even from an historical point of view