Lecture: Biblical Series V: Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers
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Bible Series V: Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers
The account of Cain and Abel is remarkable for its unique combination of brevity and depth. In a few short sentences, it outlines two diametrically opposed modes of being -- both responses to the emergence of self-consciousness and the knowledge of good and evil detailed in story of Adam and Eve.
Cain's mode of being -- resentful, arrogant and murderous -- arises because his sacrifices are rejected by God. This means that his attempts to give up something valuable in the present to ensure prosperity in the future are insufficient. He fails, in consequence, to thrive, as he believes he should, and becomes bitter, resentful and murderous.
Abel's mode of being is characterized, by contrast, by proper sacrifice -- by the establishment of balance between present action and future benefit. This ensures his personal and social success, accruing over time. Unfortunately, it also makes him the target of Cain's malevolence.
This great short story is relevant personally, on the level of the family, and politically, all with equal force, all simultaneously.
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A Jordan Peterson Lecture a day, keeps the chaos away
Educated Fool and keeps a meaningful life close by!!!
Hahahahah my kids will say "oh that's what mom used to say once she decided to put her life together" or so I hope.
this is the funniest and most true comment i've seen on a JP video
you need some of that chaos tho
so i'd turn it into: "A Jordan Peterson Lecture a day, keeps the chaos at bay"
Leave one to stay and you're back in the fray
“There’s still a little Cain on you no matter how Abel you are”
Loved that
That caught me sideways too. Simply put but insightful
Inevitably, since Abel’s lineage was lost. We’re all descended from Cain. I know it’s a story. Doesn’t make it wrong. We’re all descended from people who committed evil acts. To the extent that proclivities are at least in part genetically influenced, it’s important to be aware of that heritage.
Why? Because, as Jordan observed, and I remember it well during education, there’s a deeply held / taught assumption that EVIL is something in our past & that it’s faintly mad to label people or systems “evil”.
I was never persuaded of this. I knew I carry the potential for evil inside me. That self awareness meant that I knew the claim that it’s only good vs bad that’s worth debating, not good vs evil, was at best misguided and was probably a deliberate lie.
What does that imply about those in power?
It signals that there’s evil in charge.
And that’s what’s driving lies about climate & about covid / gene based “vaccines”.
Evil.
Jordan. I was suicidal for months until I listened to your lectures. You saved my life sir. Thank you
Now keep standing up straight with your shoulders back. The world is not too much for you.
The world needs your unique perspective- I'm glad you are still here and i am grateful for your contributions 🥰
Im glad that you are here sharing your perspective, without knowing you I wish you the best in life
Hey Chase ❤️ I'm so glad you decided to stay. Keep up the curiosity and the determination and things will be transformed.
I'm glad you find reasons to live. Take good care.
Man, youve helped me through so much Dr Peterson.
I went from being a homeless PTSD riddled drug addict spiralling into chaos with absolutely no view of the future to a strong father, studying psychology at university with an awesome job supporting autistic and schizophrenic adults.
My life has absolutely turned upside down because I learned many very important lessons from you, the most important being that if I do not brave the unknown and throw myself out there and really try to turn everything around, then the chaos will swallow me whole.
Its been a rough journey, and I am only 6 months clean after a 16 year addiction, but through you I learned that life is not worth living if it doesnt involve hardship, and that hardship is the universe (or gods) way of essentially chizzling away at me to create something stronger.
Thank you so much man. I really hope you understand how much of a force of good you are to an unbelievable amount of people. The love that many have for you definitely outweighs the hate that others have for you.
“There is still a little Cain in you no matter how Able you are” #BARS 🔥
Oh mah GAWD! XD
Speak for your self.
@@markdemell3717 oops, your cain is showing!
@@Mrguy-ds9lr My Yeshua flipping the money changers table is coming out pal.
@@markdemell3717 what?
Jordan: "I don't know how far we'll get in this lecture but I hope to get through a few chapters."
Jordan an hour later: "So here's how you cook the potatos..."
Fucking aye man😂
Brilliant section of this lecture though 😂
Also, here’s how you catch a monkey
And here is how to manipulate people with food.
I like his tangential examples.
Moreover, his tangential examples are mainstream academic, and ancient literature interelated to psychology throughout.
I am very pleased he references his analysis and is transparent.
We should all acknowledge who, what, how influced our opinions and beliefs, particularly in context of "the greater good"... the effect of our intention, every choice.
This man is the father of every wayward son on the internet. Absolutely LOVE this man.
Alarming that there seems to be so many of us. Thankful I was successful with my problems.
I was almost 60 years old I first started listening to Jordan’s bible stories. Often, the emotions I felt when listening to him retelling & interpreting familiar stories I’d all but forgotten from my childhood (when bible teachings were a routine part of the English school curriculum) reduced me to tears.
I’d been so long separated from the creator that when I started looking back over my life, I decided I’d allowed that separation.
By coincidence, within a year, I felt called to service & back to faith. My life is more difficult yet more satisfying than it’s been in many decades.
@@GT380man God bless you sir.
That breakfast story followed by the f-bomb is my absolutely favorite Jordan Peterson moment of all time. How can someone be so incredibly wise and absolutely hilarious at the same time?!
That whole segment suddenly felt like a standup routine, it was fantastic 😂😂
1:31:13 How to make a breakfast from Hell. Funny and sad. (a metaphor for wasting your life.)
Ackording to Rudolf Steiner, humour is very spiritual really. (At least quality humour, my remark).
The reason I found it so funny is that I've been to diners exactly like that, eaten that food, and met those people. What a brilliant man to take that experience we've all likely encountered and connect it with the ancient story of Cain and Abel.
Hearing him choke back tears over his daughters medical struggles is very humbling
Specially after all that has happened
AXN STEEL is he ill?
AXN STEEL thank you. I do hope he becomes well again
Angela D
He has an updated interview, with his daughter, on his UA-cam channel.
Alley Lew thank you! I will look for it.
I'm a simple man. I see a JBP video, I sort myself out.
nice
I was hoping that Dr. Peterson would include commentary on the NT reference to Cain and Abel in I John 3:12. I've always thought that verse was curious and would have liked to hear his perspective on it.
It's called trolling, don't respond to it.
R. Kyver you sure that's the correct verse? I don't see anything about Cain n abel
Yes, I John 3:12 (the epistle, not the Gospel). www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+3%3A12&version=NASB
When he talks about Mikhaila and the trouble she has passed through you can really feel the pain. Now she is doing great, she is healthy, she is a really awesome and productive person. This man is a real example that you can overcome anything if you really put the effort, the love and have a little bit of luck at some point of your life. This lectures are a watershed in my life. Thank you so much for your human labor, Jordan
I have experience the same chaos of raising my daytime. She is the first of 4. Her life choices led her in a similar path as your daughter. She is now a college graduate , real estate agent,40, married, and an at home mother of 2 children. I could be more relieved, proud and joyful of this woman.
PS I told her about you…sure she said Tom , her husband, and I watch and study his stuff. Following you for 5 years!😉
I never went to Harvard, but after listening to Dr Peterson, I feel like I graduated from a top school. Thank you Sir. God Bless you.
There are a lot of moronic teachers at those ivy league schools. Maybe not the science departments, but the humanities...You're better of on your own. Read and study Aristotole, you'll be better educated than ANY college graduate. You don't need to read a 1000 books, just read a few of the truly great books. As Schopenhauer would say, or said, in regards to these "bookish" "intellectuals" "They've read themselves stupid." I think that is self evident. It's absolutely what i see, and have said, even before learning about Schopenhauer. "Top School" there is no such thing anymore, and if there is, what good have they done? It's 2021, look what they've accomplished. Case closed. Top Schools are echoes of the past. "Top Teachers," are what you want, and all you can hope for, and that's what we have here.
wow you are easily impressed.
How can anyone find this true gentleman offensive or controversial? He is an absolute delight. I am so thankful to have found his lectures. His insights are fresh and his delivery is engaging, but. most of all, he is quite sincere and kind.
He is pretty great, although I liked Hedwig and the Angry Inch.
His views on legislated language and compelled speech are what let the dogs out. Once that happened, they put him in a box he didn't belong on and shut the lid.
A Jo
He's been unfairly smeared by SJW's; the Cains of our time.
Totally, I don’t get it ... People are stupid all the time ...
I'm a simple man. I see a JBP video, I clean my dragon.
It's a very good thing to keep your dragon clean.
Ha ha ha, such a random comment where JP himself replied, and barely any one even noticed. Priceless. The diner portion brought me back here seven months later and it's still funny as hell.
Don’t forget the gold
Captain Tightpant, you're one lucky man.
Chaos will come back and you have to make sure it doesn't grow too big you can't deal with it.
but dealing with chaos will only make you less order...
# TIMESTAMPS
- Introduction → 00:00 - 36:45
- 5:46 - Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life Reading (Motif of Sacrifice)
- 8:21 - Motif of Sacrifice in the modern world → If you wanna make things better in the future you sacrifice in the present
- 12:01 - Motif of Sacrifice in the Old testament
- 13:22 - Marshmallow Test
- 18:07 - More of Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life Reading
- 19:01 - We watched each other for thousands of years and realized the successful among us sacrifice, the greatest among us delay gratification
- 20:01 - What is the greatest possible sacrifice for the greatest possible good?
- 21:40 - The world is revealed through the template of your values. You see what you aim at.
- 21:56 - The invisible gorilla experiment (we see what we aim at)
- 24:25 - It could be the thing you're clinging to most that is causing you the most pain
- 27:33 - Israelites always maintain the attitude: "if things are not going the way we want them to go then we cannot curse God, we must look towards ourselves".
- 30:04 - Deadwood Motif, Harry Potter explanation
- 33:00 - The Pathological Totalitarianism of the Soviet Union (We already have all the answers because everything is perfect and you don't get to admit to your own suffering).
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- Sacrifice Motif → 36:45 - 1:00:31
- 36:45 - How to Catch a Monkey (The animal will not sacrifice the part for the whole)
- 40:01 - We mastered fire 2-3 million years ago
- 41:32 - What's the biggest sacrifice? You or your child?
- 42:58 - What’s the role of a mother?
- 46:31 - What’s the sacrifice of the mother?
- 48:10 - Peterson’s mother
- 52:01 - The ultimate sacrifice of value
- 54:34 - Things you don’t know until you have a baby
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- The story of Cain and Abel → 1:00:31 - 1:36:18
- 1:01:19 - Cain and Abel are the first two human beings
- 1:02:15 - Right as humanity enters history at the end of Adam and Eve then the archetypal patterns for human behavior are instantly presented.
- 1:02:41 - The first two humans engage in a struggle that ends in the death of the best one of them
- 1:03:07 - Hostile Brothers (Older brother has advantages)
- 1:05:05 - The Old Testament is a harsh book
- 1:06:06 - Sacrifice is not primitive, it might be the greatest idea humans came up with.
- 1:08:32 - The eternal battle between agriculturalists and herdsman
- 1:10:46 - Abel and Cain’s sacrifices
- 1:12:12 - Peterson's children
- 1:13:25 - Cain gets angry
- 1:16:05 - Hitler Admiration
- 1:17:19 - Cain and Abel represent two potential patterns of destiny
- 1:19:00 - Cain and Abel Image 1
- 1:20:11 - Cain and Abel Image 2
- 1:21:41 - Carl Jung’s Idea of the Self
- 1:22:41 - Cain and Abel Image 2
- 1:24:25 - What do you have? A MISERABLE LIFE!
- 1:25:58 - Cain and Abel Image 2
- 1:26:33 - “Why art thou wroth? And why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doesn’t well, shalt thou not be accepted”
- 1:27:38 - Peterson's friend
- 1:30:25 - Diner story
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- The Story of Cain and Abel Continued → 1:30:32 - 2:00:36
- 1:30:26 - How you can voluntarily have a relationship with hell
- 1:35:25 - That's not breakfast, that's hell.
- 1:36:24 - God tells Cain sin came to his door and he invited her involuntarily
- 1:37:37 - Jung on the Oedipal situation
- 1:40:10 - Cain and his creative relationship with malevolence
- 1:42:21 - He's successful and a good guy. How annoying. Or the ideal?
- 1:43:53 - Why don't people make more public expressions of admiration for the ideals in our world?
- 1:45:33 - Social Media is full of undermining, backbiting, and criticism of other people.
- 1:46:11 - What is going on in Cain's head
- 1:47:26 - The first two human beings: The resentful, bitter failure taking an ax to the admirable success.
- 1:47:44 - God's punishment to Cain is the inevitable consequence of his actions
- 1:50:27 - Why does God protect Cain?
- 1:51:30 - Cain becomes aware of his voluntary engagement with evil itself.
- 1:52:17 - Modern people don't take Evil seriously enough
Q&A
- 2:00:29 - Can we be moral without religion?
- 2:06:07 - Thoughts on homeschooling?
- 2:11:25 - Is there an allusion in the Adam and Eve story to the ingestion of psychedelics?
- 2:13:49 - Psychological significance of being a martyr (martyr: someone who is killed for their beliefs)
- 2:21:02 - Did you win the childhood fight? What are your thoughts on these new mythological stories, harry potter and game of thrones? Is there any resemblance between these stories and the biblical stories
Thanks
Beautiful
Thank you !
Legend
🙏
I am 50 years old and lost my motivation for life. I just followed everyone to plan my retirement and look forward the death to take me in the end, I feel empty and lost. I used to have things to look for when I was younger such as , education, marriage, jobs, and money. I got it all but what now? I felt aimless. Thanks for your ideas and genuinely sharing of your thoughts. It gave me meanings to live and helped me to gain energy. The aim is not to get happiness, but to gain the fulfillment through responsibility. I still have potential to expand and many things to do. Thank you, you make different in me and I forever grateful. May God blesses you and your family.
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Naming yourself sniper isn't a good thing. You're attracting the demons of death to yourself.
Most definitely you are in the important stage of your life where you can inscribe in paper all your hoarded wisdom and Truth, the true value relies not on the quantity but rather the quality of your experiences that leave meaning for other primates to learn from. Think about it. Lazy to write? You can make video-recordings and post them online there's no excuse
Im 22, been manicly depressed for no reason since 12. Thanks to open diolouge like this I finally see a bright future for me.
Love is Dope hey. I found depression is a manifestation of no hope or meaning. Find meaning, find hope. Get out of the belly of the beast. Save yourself from hell and despair. Be the hero of your own journey. I have done it and so can you.
you are dope and i love you, i believe individuals such as yourself will make a huge positive outcome to the wold.
wish that id be that easily influenced. maybe after finishing this series!
❤️
@Crystal Ball Sure, you don't "have" to get married. But...who says you cant find your own meaning from fighting the existence of life, together, with a partner you love and trust. At least 1/7,673,547,036 of the world disagrees with you.
I have to admit after having recently achieved an honourary science degree, i'm one of those arrogant educated people that sees certain jobs as beneath him and feels slighted that the world hasn't just layed at my feet in awe....This video has made me realise that seeing intelligence as the be all and end all can be very self destructive.
I‘m really happy that you‘ve made this realization. I‘m having similiar problems as well.. We‘re here to alleviate suffering with knowledge, not create more with it by becoming ideologically posessed
Man that is a thing to share on UA-cam, good on your part.
The beginning of intelligence aside from math, is when you forget everything you ever thought you knew.
I find the trick is applying the knowledge! There are a lot of people with great knowledge in their heads however can't work out their own mental health to find the motivation and will to create the change they feel inside.
You go from first person to third in the first sentence. Hopefully they withhold the honorary English degree.
I've watched 4 of these in one day. Cleaned my room and seratonined my lobster 🦞🙌🏼
Seratonined my lobster sounds like such an interesting euphemism
How did he taste after that seasoning?
Haha, samesies.
Thats the finest Freudian-slip I’ve ever heard !!
@@Laocoon283 I work 12s at a security checkpoint during the pandemic when 2/3 of the workers are at home in pajamas. I have nothing but time.
Jordan Peterson thank you you have given me the willpower to finally make huge changes in my life for the better and not just me the people around me also .also you have given me the currage to get off drugs after using for 15 years of my life hope this makes sense.and thank U so much
Jordan Peterson is so adorable when he nails his jokes. What a wholesome dude
The diner bit had me in tears xD
I'm atheist, and I've never been so damn excited for a lecture on the Bible. Thanks Dr. P.
Me too... But I've started going back to church. Nihilism sucks
I found what Jesus said has practical applications in life whether you believe he was the son of God or not.
Me too. Plenty to understand about humans though mythology.
Bridger Arnold
Same here!
He's not a preacher & he's not talking in the typical shallow boring way that Christians & Christianity scholars do when they talk about the bible & shaming anyone for not following it!
He's very interesting & he's talking about the bible in a way nobody ever did before as far I know.
The way he talks about the concepts of the bible is very awesome & smart & enjoyable.
same
same
For some reason, my interior monologue came to be JP’s voice after watching his videos very often.
I find my self say "ya know..." with a Candian inflection when discussing ideas with people now.
Does your interior monologue wander off on tangents and then bring everything back together in a coherent way? mine sounds a lot like Peterson's musings, but then scampers off into the meadow never to return to the original line of thought
and you bloody well know, get after 'em
Well now you know your conscious and subconscious have a voice of interchangeable communication
Im reading along in my personal bible and i think its quite hilarious that i have listnened to 10 hours of this podcast and we are on page 5..
It cracked me up that his first one was like 2.5 hours and he didn’t get to word one of the source material but yet was absolutely riveting. He’s a treasure. He is a rare bright spot in this dystopian desert.
I took my 3 y/o grand daughter and asked her if she wanted one (candy) now or two later. She said two now. 😲
Clever. She combined the 2 possibilities. She wanted her cake and to eat it too.
literally
Obviously
she really thought out of the box :)
mine said no to either! not sure what to make of that lol
After walking away from Christianity 14 years ago Dr Peterson totally restored my faith. Thank you.
Amen
Alleluia!
Welcome back brother!
Aw praise Jesus ✌️🍭
Glory be to God!
I love when he gets choked up about his daughter, and now, after seeing how she fought for his life, it's so beautiful. What a marvelous family, what a beautiful thing.
Then she gets a divorce
This is the 3rd time I watching this and I keep learning. Thanks for this man's existence
That demon-breakfast from hell-diner bit...so epic...
How there’s no clip of that around is a mystery, he’s got a good sense of humor
@@garrettmercado7074 ua-cam.com/video/IVTogKE25aQ/v-deo.html
The counterpart to the diner from hell; Charles Bukowsi's poem Nirvana read by Tom Waits: ua-cam.com/video/07WfDVN1asc/v-deo.html
When discussing challenging subjects about deep topics, it's nice to have a good comedic break to level the tension.
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When you realize you're watching JBP to procrastinate cleaning your room
Guilty
i always listen to him while cleaning my room, do this for the whole lecture and your room will become a wonderful place
Eric Muccino A profound comment
You know you can listen while actually cleaning your room right?
Lol
Every second watching this lecture is mind-blowing my only regret is to not have found this guy early in my life!
Never too late to implement his ideas. Every day can be better than the previous regardless of age.
These stories that I have read from childhood as a Christian actually make sense and have some very very very deep meaning attached to them. Wow ! Thanks Dr Peterson.
Right? another video I saw of him talking about Cain and Abel(haven't watched this yet, enjoying the comments too much) said that Cain's descendant was the creator of weapons of war. That whole side of the family was angry and resentful. the story is so much better when you have context and what happens as a result of an action. WOW
watched all of the biblical series once and I think I am going to watch it twice and thrice etc, etc.
Something to pick me up after a long day of being disagreeable
Im such a disagreeable cunt haa back to cleaning my room
"What Evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows." Cheers.
Does this imply your propensity is to not be disagreeable?
"No! That's not breakfast. That's Hell!"
I was crying from laughter.
“Hell... that’s no joke man”
@@CT--lj9ck And you created it..
When I went through my divorce, I had a hard time with leaving my children. My role as a father had completely changed and I was very resentful and angry from it, really hurt. It made me act in ways I never thought I could. I had practically abandoned my children. I was obviously being unfaithful to God by acting that way, hurting my children and destroying myself as well. I read the story of Abraham and Isaac and something clicked. I had to sacrifice my children to God (actually my ideal of fatherhood and my role in their life). In other words, I put faithfulness to God above my ideal of fatherhood. I humbled myself and accepted my new role and have faithfully been the best father I can be for them ever since. The Bible really helps me reconcile my thoughts and emotions and spirituality with my actions. I praise the Lord for it.
“ 🎶 When the toast is burning or the milk has turned in, Captain Crunch is waving farewell! 🎵”
@@bh3062 That's some old school newsboys!
I still come back to this lecture to listen to when I have difficult days. I graduated from my church’s seminary 21 yrs ago, served as a volunteer missionary in Mexico for 2 years +many institute classes afterwards. We need more discussions like this.
I miss this sort of faith building relatable discourse in rough form.
COvid devastated so many faiths and secluded us from each other. It’s never gotten back to the same and probably won’t. All of the damming aspects of internet,,, this is a cherished bright spot. I studied your work and it motivated me to get into regular talk therapy which saved my marriage last year. Thank you JP and your team.
I tear up when he starts taking about what a wonderful child his daughter was... his pain leaps out of the screen at you.
I'm an atheist. But Peterson is one of the few thinkers that ignite a passion for ....thinking. What a pleasure to listen to a man who has spent a great deal of time working things out, and letting us listen in. He's smarter than I am, and never boring. He has shaken my view of religion. I'm still a non'believer, but he has shown my folly in ignoring the lessons to be learned by studying the stories of the Bible as Metaphor.
Yeah I did not care about religon or mytholo either blinded as i was by my own arogance he really opened up my eyes.
But if you are not believing in a higher "good" what is your meaning in life than ? - Really curious on how you view the world
The Try - I can't speak for Claude, but I am sort of coming from the same position. If you look at the seven deadly sins you can see easily how gluttony, lust, envy, etc can harm the sinner. Sin hurts the sinner sometimes socially, sometimes physically, and sometimes psychologically. Virtue on the other hand builds a person up. If you look at the seven heavenly virtues most are about self control which is a very useful skill.
The meaning is to build a life you are satisfied with. Virtue will do that and sin will not. Sin can be pleasurable for a short period of time, but in the long run will lead to internal suffering. Exercising your mind is like exercising your muscles. Doing what is hard today will make you stronger tomorrow.
I don't believe in higher power.I find happiness in reading ,traveling,Watching media and with my friends and family etc.Atheism don't make you ignorant,lack of reading does...
This is why free speech is so important! Talking about the Bible, Jesus, etc. in public to Muslims leads to an imprisonment and deportation from the city I live in, Dubai, UAE..
@Narciso de Almeida athiests are ignorant to certain things and religious types are ignorant in other ways, we are all ignorant in different ways
I love the sub-culture of Jordan Peterson video watchers, these are my people right here, open minded, highly curious and all here to better themselves. You know if we could sort ourselves out roughly speaking, we will be bettering the lives of everyone we have contact with automatically, this is an incredible thought since this will have a butterfly effect and ripple through history, a tiny thing yet can alter history for humans forever, if that doesn't motivate you I don't know what will. Now go ye and SORT!
That's no joke!
I like to be quite agressive as well on the proposed solution, have rescued 3 people already and helped them find a way to justify their lives
fuck fuck fuck fuck. Who cares really? Don't get me wrong, it was totally funny. But I'm actually surprised he doesn't swear like non-stop. He mentioned on JRE podcast that he comes from a working class town and did lots of labor jobs. (I believe he said he worked on a railroad, can't quite remember)
It's the only consistently cool comment section ever on youtube.
Even talking about a few concepts I learned from JP with my friends was enough for many powerful changes in my own life and in that of my friends around me. Life has a new layer of meaning now.
there's a gradual incremental decrease in the number of views for these lectures- but there is a gradual incremental improvement in my vocabulary after assimilating these lectures into my daily conversations. Thank you Dr. Peterson, I wish you and your family the best of health!
Jordan, I cry often while listening to you, and I thank you heartily for that, because each tear represents yet another deep, inner truth that I have learned, or at least realized, thanks to you! God bless continued learning! Thank you!
Try his self authoring. God exists, it's in your heart, it's the voice of the old father in your head telling presicely what you have to do.
The way Dr. Peterson gets choked up when talking about his children gets me every time. That love shines through, a love that as a male at 37, with no children; I haven't experienced. I was raised by my grandparents and they were loving and did their best. This inspiring man has been the father figure of my adult life and has helped me grow as a man. I truly hope I can shake his hand one day.
Thank you Sir.
Me too Damo, I get choked up too. I love the reality of that beautiful man.
His kids must hate religion and it’s enormous waste of time with pointless studies and talk about Devine and historical fantasy and philosophy with some factual lessons to be learned. Things unexplained or depicted as magic since it happened and the author at that time didn’t see it but others did maybe, we’ll that’s magic and miracle, moving forward we have science and evidence of sustained practice that’s proven true as fact and the mystery is explained and not a mystery any longer, we could know a lot more now
36:26 - *"It's time to let go and sacrifice who you are for who you could become"* - Mic drop
A great man in an era where such greatness is rare
When I follow my morning prayer with listening to Jordan Peterson as I get ready for the day... leaves me with the most energy and focus for the rest of the day..it’s great !
That's not breakfast, thats hell - Jordan Peterson
best line
Ruan Mighail Pienaar also sounds like somthin Ramses would say
Loved that little rant
and you created it. it is us who can physically make the world a better or worse place.
1:11:20-1:13:26 Been watching his lectures for a while now and I've never seen him stumble in his thoughts like this. Talking about his kids had him so emotional. Such a genuine guy. Don't know how anyone could not like him.
1:35:50 we can stop here
Dont know how anyone could dare paint him a heartless, misogynistic prick.
Completely misinformed about the guy.
@Ron Maimon oh,please. Babble on.
It's funny you ask "how anyone could not like him". The answer I dare say is in this very lecture. Big hint is given in the title. ;)
In flow.
I started my career very young in (19). And I’ve just joined a company where the next youngest person is older by almost a decade. Admittedly I matured faster than my peers, partly because I saw malevolence in my father at a very young age. But mostly because I was also a young mom. And my son opened my eyes in so many ways
Sounds like you had a better understanding of the darkness and the light than many 19 year olds nowadays
The most amazing thing about Mr. Peterson is that its so easy to listen to him for long periods of time.
36:26 "It's time to sacrifice who you are, for who you can become". Simple, yet essential, and beautiful (because it's so difficult).
yoe91 not once, but many times of a lifetime
Fascinating
It's remarkable that in my life I feel I have died many times and been reborn. Sometimes for the better, and other were for the worst, but I'm currently in the process of dying again... It seems like there's less left every time, but anything for progress I guess.
Simple doesn't necessarily mean easy
Burn off the deadwood.
This biblical series is fucking incredible and I suggest that everyone watch it. It's worth the time. It's more than worth the time.
Yep
@@strongroots2345 can it.
I'm no very impressed by now
I love Jordan's laugh. Very genuine and always wholesome.
Binge watching my way through these and will have to do it again just to retain a fraction of the information. It's so incredible.
Man, that "Diner from Hell" story had the whole room in hysterics: 1:31:23
it wasnt even like my eyes watered from laughing so hard. I had tears streaming down my face.
It's funny because it actually made me understand the point he was making. Jordan Peterson should do stand up.
RochesFan came here looking for this! Thank you! Freaking hilarious. I love all the thought he's committed to this. 😀
It's such a simple exercise but so dependent on a person's clarity. He actually fails multiple times and restarts but stays a few steps ahead of the audience (as far as I can tell).
Not sure which I enjoyed more, the story itself or how much fun Dr. Peterson had telling it!
I'm glad you explain why some family members can no longer speak. People are shocked when I tell them I no longer - and will never again - speak to my brother. He is a toxic person that I pity and hope the best for. I hope he can get help. I hope he can have insight into his narcissistic tendency and he can stop abusing people. But that doesn't mean I should stick around and keep being abused because of a blind loyalty to family. It helps no one to fall for that.
TopHatKitty I had two brothers like that, and when my mother was dying, her last wish was for me to let them back into my life. Well, I did, and they damn near killed me. Literally. You are not obligated to let anyone hurt you.
TopHatKitty learning to sacrifice that dead wood is the only way to keep the whole forest from burning down. I've watched others cling until it swallowed them. I myself made a choice to just let go.
Where is that part? Thanks in advance.
Same. I had to leave my whole family cause they had grown a culture of abuse and reactionary abuse. It was burning me down and leaving me barren; the last 2 months with them I was very suicidal. It took some friends forcing me to get out of that place, but I'm glad they did, and now I'm finally recovering (mental health wise) and making my own way in life. I'm never going back to that.
@@crit-c4637 The last time is where you get your wisdom. When you say No you are deleting that abuse pattern from your life. This is what you do whenever you have a negative pattern that keeps emerging in your life. Say no to an unhealthy lifestyle and you will get healthy. You will start studying nutrition and give up the foods that do you harm. In some way eating badly is just another form of abuse that you need to say No to in order to keep enrichening your life. Just an example. Congratulations on saying No and saying Yes to your life.
"It's time to let go and to sacrifice who you were for who you could become."
“Your ambitions blind you to the true nature of reality” 24:07
"Sacrifice who you are, for who you could become"
"When I let go of who I am, I can become who I might be." - Lao Tzu
36:00 " If life isn't yet what it should be, you have a primary responsibility to do something about it. And the place to start looking is to your own errors, and to fix them. That's a safe bet, because you're probably doing some things that you wouldn't have to be doing if you fixed them. That would make things better. It's time to let go and sacrifice who you are, for who you could become." I love this point.
Knowing now having a slight idea how terrible his daughters childhood was having watch her videos the fact that he can keep it together from his perspective of it, as a father he can keep it together gives me SO much respect for the man
Jordan Peterson's interpretation of the Cain and Abel story from the point of view of a clinical psychologist is very profound, interesting and impressive. Fascinating lecture.
1:35:55 I have watched hundreds of hours of Peterson. This was the first time I heard "fuckin".
Fuckin finally man, it has been a while... xD
I went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed that lol
I think I heard him say it on either Rogan or Sargon of Akad. Once. He doesn't like to swear, although it's never stopped him.
I can confirm this as well.
I will be sure to skip this part. My little heart couldn't handle it.
You can tell that Senor Peterson could rage if he wanted to, but doesn't... he's gotta keep his shadow on a short leash, otherwise it'll annihilate the world. :)
Amazing how the best theological lectures are being delivered by a clinical psychologist.
Religion is the way people thought before we killed the God.
Analyzing human way of thinking is almost the same as analyzing their belief systems and vice versa.
This is no where close to the best lectures. When you have been in the presence of an God- inspired stabbing (preaching), all other types of speaking is diminished to babel. This is why christianity is so effective in changing people. See how the very words spoken by Jesus calmed storms and caused demons to quake to start.
@@gpnulife who specifically are you recomending and what do they speak of?
They are good, but not the best.
@@ceilingfanenthusiast6041 Tony Evans
There is something "joyfully wrong" when you burst into tears listening to JP...when he talked about Mary (mother of Jesus), a well of emotions overwhelmed me!
This is deep deep stuff man!
Eternally thankful to God for your sacrifice JP.
This is the first time I've listened to you teach! I've heard so many opinions about you, I wonder if they have ever listened and observed one of your lectures good sir!
For me Listening to Jordan peterson is the big smack In the face to remind us how serious life is. It's hopeful, enlightening , and terrifying all at the same time. What a time we live in to have access to this at our finger tips
Out of all of Jordan Petersons work and videos available , I hold these lectures as most valuable and am so grateful i came across them
Josh J same. I feel that way with JP as a whole.
Same. These transformed my entire world view, to the point that people don't recognize me without the old sarcastic nihilism that once characterized me.
The diner story at 1:31:54 is absolutely art from Jordan Peterson, it is stand-up comedy at its best.
The giddy excitement with which he describes the entire process is infectious.
It's funny cause it's true! I've been to a few places like that!
Recently I’ve been working on a play based on the story of the Biblical first family, but I don’t think I fully understood the layers until I saw this lecture and the one proceeding it about Adam and Eve. These lectures have been really helpful and if Jordan Peterson comes across this comment I’d like to personally thank him
Jordan we are dying out here upload more often plz
It can even be a video of you teaching how to breathe
ze diogo Where is your self reliance? Sort yourself out.
bucko
While your waiting "CLEAN YOUR ROOM!"
why not, people watch hours of Thich Nhat Hahn do it.
SnowAtYT thank god
The whole tragedy could have been avoided if Cain had just cleaned his room.
😂😂😂💪💪
Marc Malone don't take all things lightly, there are certain things that one cannot joke with and are certainly more important than an internet coment
@@comanchedase hello... I do not believe the comment was a joke? Bitterly ironic perhaps. If Cain had sorted himself out we wouldn't all be going through this.... maybe...
@@comanchedase way to intentionally not get the point of the comment...
Admirable! The Club of Rome takes the full wrath of his words as if God would speak through his mouth to warn them! Listen between 45:10 to 46:15 carefully ! I couldn't more agree !!
God bless you and your familly, Dr Petersson !...
15:50 . the human spirit is like a muscle. obstacles make it grow. You just explained the reason for fasting. ty.
Anyone else feel Jordan Peterson went on one hell of a spiritual warfare after these, unknowingly at the time, but increasingly being made aware to him.
Astounding lectures
“NO MAN! That’s not breakfast, that’s HELL!”
That was just beautiful.
these videos are my drug of choice.
Left foot in for all the struggling addicts of JBP Bible Lectures
I feel like Peterson is needed now more then ever.
He kind of lost his credibility though when he got addicted to pills. I think he is rehabilitated, but he should've just been honest and said he could screw up, too, instead of being exposed. I think it makes him more authentic, the drug addiction. shows that knowledge doesn't bring about results. it's the application of that knowledge where freedom lies.
@@tiredofit1968 He didnt lose credibility. He let people know of his personal struggles, and also his personal struggles do not undermine the message of his lectures, in fact, it helps the message. He has never said he was perfect, he always says that life is hard, its a constsnt struggle and you have to find meaning, to have the drive to make the sacrifices to overcome yourself.
The way JP talks feels like he is trying so hard to not break the space-time continuum.
Time travel is humanities most acknowledged fantasy made hype everyone new technology is presented lol. It’s easily relevant, it’s cool in all but impossible through constant space isn’t there, why erase it, can’t go back which we all want to, can only move forward and no one wants that anyway so why even mock it’s attempt to speed up one’s own life to quicker health. We wouldn’t remember the time passed if we jumped ahead and skipped parts like a bad commercial interrupting a good movie. Yes black holes the vacuum of condensed space but matter voided itself and infinitely condensing density with maters so called energy or what we think are holes in something we deemed not supposed to have holes? no one’s been there so has it happened or does the date strongly suggest an answer we like and think is closely to the answer based on really old theory that’s just, like a run on sentence with no point or end of irrelevant good starts abandoned to an almost original equation, but still theory as unsolved equations that look good next to each other, with some math that has a whole number in its equation, would be a success for anyone who enjoys math, the rest of use don’t care and hate math. I mean look at horse loving crazies, they said fuck numbers ima measure this horse is hands, deal with it. Just like math is numbers and an answer, at the end of the day no one cares none likes it but some do, but it doesn’t mater as long as your expected outcome is accomplished right? Definitely different methods stiles versions, take one of many paths, your good is my evil and my evil is your good to the other side of the world to its farthest reaching fellow humans stayed as far from humanly distanced and different from one another, same time era, different invented culture and advancements. I’m used to for example Christian bible thumpers, it’s why I hate religion and am more in agreeable and decimated to Shinto Japanese’s walk and morals of life and practice opposed to Americanized adopted other far reaching different humans, called Israelites, woman here like that story. There’s a buncha different versions, lots stories happend at the same time all around the world. All the things happened, forgotten happened again, forgotten, exposed woke offended some scholars book I read that opposes magic and stories using science and advanced beyond Jesus era time period. People here like yuh know choose one god. Guess that’s cool here. But that’s old shit, we have science now. Literally can disprove magic and miracles buuuuuut, dude, woman , loooooove magic, sparkly emotional response and story with philosophical ideas engaging their imagination rather than science, woman hate logic. Most logic when explained some religious dummy will stop you, there all yo, you studied ok I choose to be dumb, didn’t read all those books just the one and our guys story version of iiiittttt, don’t ruin my fantasy as comfort is more important that fact. Ha hate that hypocrisy
"Divine Masculine Principal" is his job title for the online school he's setting up.
thepeter lol
Looking forward for his school. Hope he is going to bring changes in education.
I believe the word was principle, not principal.
Read the whole comment. Principal for the online school. It's a play on the homophony with "principle".
Cain and Abel were the sons of god and Eve. Seth is the 1st born of Adam and Eve. In the secret book of John(a Christ knowledge gospel), Christ says in the long version that god was ignorant and angry, so he took(raped) Eve to try to make an eternal child. He could not. Instead came evil twins, Cain-murderer. Abel-taunting teaser. SO YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME HU? Read Geneses ch 4. 1st let's get one thing straight. When a woman is saying that somebody HELPED her to make a baby, she is saying only one thing. Gen ch 4; "And Eve said, I HAVE PRODUCED A MAN WITH THE AID OF JEHOVAH". "The Gnostic Truth, Who We Truly Are". ua-cam.com/video/8lm46d89mh8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AWikkedMoon . "The Gnostic Truth, Unity vs Division". ua-cam.com/video/Upks5oLN1mY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AWikkedMoon
Jordan is the father I never had! Thank you JP!
I feel the same way too.
I actually jumped when he said “fucking”,I’ve never heard him curse before it accually caught me off Garde
Jorden Peterson talking about his mother and how he admired her almost made me cry
Jordan B. Peterson is slowly becoming my favorite stand up comedian
Ry P He's hilarious too
I've rewatched the Diner portion of the lecture several times and its still hysterically funny
i like how hes funnier than most comedians. While actually saying nutritive and profoud things
What's the deal with archetypal airplane peanuts?
i loled hard, and thats that
That has to be one of the greatest diner stories ever told.
Firstly, I'm really wondering how a man of your class is being hated by people. I just can't fathom that fact.
I'm not particularly religous for a catholic in a long time now, mainly due to past realization and experiences of how corrupt of an organization it can be (which is present in every organization or group of people as you mentioned in the earlier chapters). So far down the line, I'm heavily biased against preachers and have a personality of being distrustful to everyone.
I even prepared to challenge the bible by looking the oldest english translation to analyze its contents (mainly the old testament). conveniently enough, I found that you had a similar lecture of this topic.
Listening to your analysis as the days passes by, compared to mine broke a lot of ill-will and personal judgement, and even deemed how stupid and biased my past actions were. Eventually and thoroughly Dr. Peterson, you changed my perspective on how to view any religion and life in general.
I'm forever grateful for having the chance to listen to you in this generation. And hope to be able to go to one of lectures the next time I visit canada. Until then I'll try me best to overcome my limits, share your teachings and live for those I care about in this life time.
P.S. English is not my main language, pls do correct me for any mistakes. still learning my third language as well. kinda mixes them up in my mind.
"Don't wait too long to let the dead wood burn off " 👏🏽
Are you going to jail for him? Have you bothered to read between the ____ ?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOU ARE EXACTLY THE TYPE HE EXPECTS TO CARRY OUT THE "SACRIFICE" . HI AGAIN JORDY ! IT'S ME . I THINK YOU MAY NEED MORE HELLLLLP HONEY. FREAKY DANGEROUS DUDE HATES WOMEN IT'S OBVIOUS🥺
@@DPatter what liars have you been listening to? You clearly have bought a lie.
Professor Peterson is able to elucidate the tenets of the Bible in a level of abstraction that humanity is unable to even imagine possible in the tens of thousands of years when the first stories of the Bible was passed orally in campfires. It warms my heart, so to speak to see a number of atheists who are interested, resonate, or find themselves agreeing with or even waiting for Professor Peterson's Bible series lectures. Imagine what the world can be if priests and preachers spread Christianity or shared the Bible in this way, or at least is tilted in this direction, man. There will be a whole lot less whatever-phobic Christians, less division and/or discrimination, and more people would be sorted out instead of being repulsed by the creationist and archaic rhetoric, and that's huge, man. The modern man will rediscover one of the best tomes of knowledge that can lead one to living a life with a purpose (not in the dogmatic, religious sense), and that's no bloody joke, bucko!
I think JP is approaching the Bible differently to Theologians. JP is finding bits of the Bible that agree with His world view. Theologians develop their world view from the whole Bible. Also JP seems to think that we thought the Bible up ("we eventually came up with the idea that..."). Theologians believe the Bible was given to us by God, through inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Russell Pizel most theologians do agree that the Bible was written by many different people throughout time, but that it was "inspired by God" or "directed by God" or "moved by the hand of God". Growing up, I did question the "inconsistencies" to be found within the Bible, and I questioned many of the dogmatic beliefs of the faith, but could not turn my back to it completely. I think the Professor hit upon something when he said that the people who passed on these stories were acting things out long before they could abstract and verbally explain the meaning of the things they are acting out... And now we are living in times where, after thousands of years worth of maturation of the human psyche, these values and or discoveries of the highest order which we have acted out forever can be abstracted in such a way that encourages humanity to live up to his full potential (as God intended perhaps, and is my position since childhood) instead of being merely slavish God-dependents. I think Jordan B. Peterson is a (note I said "a", not "the") perfect vessel of our times to spread this message.
Jane Doe actually listen to the entire series. And try maps of meaning also. It's too long for someone who has no qualifications (not a theologian psychologists, philosopher) to explain in a single post.
Jane Doe a rock can either be a hammer, a killing weapon, or a stumbling block along your way (among other things) depending on how it is perceived. So too, the Bible (or any ancient work/mythology/literature). It seems your perspective is set. If the professor cannot even at least convince you to ease up on the cynicism, well then I don't stand a chance of even appealing to you to suspend disbelief and look at the Bible from a different perspective than the current ones you are viewing it with.
Jordan Pettersons approach is actually more of a psychological-theological approach. He references Dostojevski, Kierkegaard and Nietzsche many times over in his lectures. Something which is very common for theologians - in Europe at least, where also Peterson taught and was educated. I see Peterson's approach as a interdisciplinary approach, which isn't' new (think Jung fx) but is very refreshing nonetheless. Thank you for your comment, khaii13.
I’ve been listening to these jobs while I’ve been painting and fixing up houses and doing lots of odd jobs and I have to say that these lectures are absolutely enlightening and have truly improved who I am as a person
I just recently started listening to the amazing lectures and I'm in awe. What a beautiful soul Peterson is. I'm so happy his lectures are available. ♥️
As much as I never cared for that Ayauasca, that spririt spoke what sounds and feels like the truth about Mr Peterson. It is what I see and feel too, after seeing and listening to him for some years. His soul and spirit in his talks are so alive and true that I can even take his swearing, which I usually feel very ill at ease with. His lectures have helped me stay brave, stay believing in humanity, stay loving, inspired me to further forgiveness, and he has helpedd me towards becoming a real Christian, which I didn't realize I have not been.
Dr Peterson is really serious about his diner breakfast food
When he got emotional about his kid, I felt something, a pure and genuine soul. It made me feel something heavenly, I don't know, never felt a strong feeling like that
I don’t say thjs enough. I probably don’t realize it. You made me stronger.
I've tried to explain how I think about God to my friends and I can't seem to explain it in an understandable way. Yet when I watch Peterson speak it is so clear. He's captured something so much deeper in the biblical stories than what I was taught, which is that the stories are literal and not "just metaphors". I think the metaphors and symbols are much deeper than "just literal".
I just realized something, I've just turned 31 and this is the first time in my life I feel like I've met someone I would consider a mentor to me. ie: prof Peterson. I've always deeply yearned for that. Thank you.
Agreed, it's hard to find anything 'wrong' with his arguments. I mean he basically obsesses about an idea and fine tunes it for years so it'd be a bit of a let down if u could poke holes at it within 10 seconds (which is still about 10 times longer than the average time it takes me to poke holes in most arguments I hear).
Usually every argument I hear is transparent to me. For example I can tell what fundamental mistakes researchers have made on a thirty page paper within seconds (intuition I guess) - and I sort of got used not to be really intellectually challenged by 99% of people - included so called intellectuals. So this is a breadth of fresh air. Something really and truly original.
This man is getting dangerously better and better day by day. Every
single word he speaks tells us that when he says "I've thought about
this for a long time" is so bloody true. You damn well believe it.
Right. And that's that.
On a side note, how in this goddamn world can one dislike this video? Seriously.
Bucko
i cant get his voice out of my head while reading this
1.Radical Feminist.
2.people who though they're oppressed which if they're oppressed they wouldn't be here, they wouldn't have internet or computer, they are people who can't appreciate everything around them and victimized themselves which to me that's insult to human race and they should start apologize now, same for feminist.
3.Stereo type people which can't imagine the metaphor.
4.people who can't listening to lecture, like more than 70 percent in my class back when I was studying in university are that kind of people. I admit that the lecture in my actual class was boring as they don't know what's good professor and bad professor are and how to make people listening to them. Old school teacher who though of their work as a chore and not their career.
@@Vertutame 5. People who accidently hit dislike and didn't know it.
Be an antitheist...
Dear Dr. Peterson, your lectures have given me a new more meaningful perspective on life. I am so grateful to you. I sincerely hope things aren’t too difficult for you. Your courage is inspiring.
My husband Evan Blansett was just shot and murdered. he was brilliantly unique, beautiful spirit with green eyes. he was plauged by addiction, he had an abusive alcoholic dad, that really really haunted him. but once we had our baby girl Kasper he glowed around her but he just couldnt stop the drugs. Ive been sobbing for days. just wanted to thank you JP these lectures are helping comfort me in the darkest time. Love, Ash
When he talks about his child with "Job-like catastrophes" at 1:12:00. My god, what a heart breaker.
"Sacrifice better bloody work because we do not have a better idea."
-JP
Jordan kept repeating their names and one time my brain was like: "able". After that my thought was "the unable brother kills the brother that is able". Those who can't through their own efforts try to destroy those who can. And I've been there. At school I used to get A grades. My classmates who couldn't started attacking me on recess until I lowered my grades. What was strange was some teachers knew but stood idly. They seem scared somehow and some want the approval of those teenagers.
I understand you
I made a similar parallel in my head when he said that too...but you definitely expressed it more profoundly than me. But yeah, amen man. And I'm sorry that happened to you as a kid. Albeit, probably inevitable. Though, not your fault. Those teachers blatantly rejected their roles both as teachers and adults there and should've done differently. But it goes to show they likely didn't make the proper sacrifices through the course of their lives and so ended up in that emotionally infantile position. That, or a bad upbringing, which is more likely the case. Either way, God help them.
That’s why I don’t always respond directly to criticism. I get called a woman, then I ask the person if they’re gay, instead of defending my masculinity. I get called cocky or prideful, then I let them go right ahead and think that while I outsmart them another way.
I'm scared of my older brother, he is disabled and I'm more successful. when we were kids I learned from him I shouldn't try to succeed because that made me a nerd. now in my late 20s we have a good surface level relationship but it is not very open or deep. I wish I wasn't so paranoid. I think I need to talk to him about it but he makes me nervous.
These biblical lectures are like a life raft in the midst of scornful chaos.