I like the realism of the third era, it’s extremely hard to keep an empire unified for centuries. As Kyle Harper said, whats amazing about the Roman Empire is the longevity despite all it had to endure
The romans had an emphasis on provincial and local governments, that is what allowed them to stay together as an empire for as long as they did. The romans were definitely more politically advanced in comparison to the septim dynasty.
You could also see the same with the British dynasty from Edward IV. He is considered the bastard by an archer especially since his pregnancy was 10 months in duration and his father was in France during the key period. The present heir of the alternate line lives in Australia and doesn’t give a hoot about being king.
The werewolf isn't what makes Pelagius III go mad! It's written in Wolf Queen Vol. 8 that Potema, in her OLD AGE (She also didn't disguise herself as an old crone, she WAS an old crone at this point) takes the amulet with the werewolf soul to the Solitude Mages' Guild and has them release the werewolf's soul while also enchanting the necklace to have a curse on it. That curse is what makes Pelagius III go crazy.
@@badluck5647 I haven't played ESO since the markarth dlc so I wasn't even aware of the new stuff I should probably get back into it I heard black wood was really good and the Breton dlc looks good too
Podcast about Pelinal Whitestrake. Or maybe one that covers the knight orders of Tamriel. I know you guys did a video about the subject a while back, but I think it's still an interesting topic.
Uriel Septim is an overrated Emperor. The Empire wouldn't be covered in bandits if he wasn't constantly releasing criminals from prison in hope that the criminals will save the Empire.
@@MathiasWashburne I personally assume they are putting it off, because the topic is too big and complex for them to go off of memory in a podcast format. Just read the 36 lessons of Vivec to understand the undertaking.
@@badluck5647 Yeah, IIRC they've discussed the idea of Vivec on multiple podcasts, including a separate session just for the 36 Lessons. An Almalexia episode would be nice to get soon because it's already been six months since Sotha Sil's, but Vivec won't come for quite a while.
@@MathiasWashburne It must be the Mandela Effect, because I swear I heard an Almalexia podcast already. It is overdue, because she is a fascinating character is often overshadowed by Sotha Sil and Vivec.
Podcast Idea: An episode about all the Mortals that have become Gods, Demigods, and Daedra, and how they did it, as well as what they've done/influenced after becoming Gods.
I wonder if the Thalmor hate Rajhin as much as Talos. The idea of a Khajiit obtaining godhood through thievery must be incredibly offensive to the elven supremacists.
Podcast Idea: Beyond Skyrim (w/ guest) (Some of the Beyond Skyrim teams are trying to promote interest in their projects, so maybe a team leader will do an interview.)
I’ve been listening to the Esoterica UA-cam Channel and his Introduction to the Kabbalah series really makes me realize the writers of the Monomyth and lot of Morrowind’s lore had some understanding of the weirder parts of ancient philosophies and magical thought. A podcast (way down the line because of the necessary research) looking at the Philosophies Of The Elder Scrolls may be interesting!
It is not really known if the empire withdrew its troops from Morrowins in the crisis of oblivion. Ocato literally says in Oblivion that the empire's troops are overstretched and he can't bring them to Cyrodill. There are 2 versions, the version of Ocato and Oblivion and the version of the dunmer of Morrowind (coincidentally from a house that has historically been reluctant to the empire), also in Oblivion and you can hear generic rumors from among the citizenry about how the Legion is stretched across the Empire: ''I hear that those Oblivion Gates are opening everywhere. They say the Legion is stretched to the limit across the Empire."
The Empire of Tiber Septim was a different kind,nearly all of Tamriel was conquered but with so many provinces under you control you take all the trouble of them with you.
I watch every video I can get my paws on and I still don’t understand shit, but I love listening to y’all and feeling involved in dissecting the history and lore! Appreciate your hard work ❤️
The Elder Scrolls Podcast, prior to the Fudge Muppet dragon break, the format change, & Drewmora on a pilgrimage to seek Chim. Is this what being Well-Rested feels like?
@@AnonymousAnonposter True. Akatosh is "the time god" with aspects of Lorkhan's ideals. A time god that also serves as a Patron god to the Empire of Man. A bastardozation made by Allesia to give Lorkhan a friendly time god buddy to have. Marukhati Selective gave ma boi Auriel a massive migraine 😢
Been waiting for a new episode of Fudgemuppet delving into all the lore and turn it into a weekly existential crisis. All the jokes aside, great to see you guys still keeping our love for Elder Scrolls alive. In terms of an episode idea, I’d definitely be interested in an episode talking about your ideas of alternate Elder Scrolls history. Perhaps each pitches an idea and then all three discuss what would come of it? Example: “What if the Orcs had managed to keep Orsinium and hold it from the multiple invasions.” Would be great to see you delve into theories and what could have happened.
I dont know if it's cuz it's a hazy morning or I got a comfortable sleep or what, but damn if hearing that music and "what is up ladies and gentlemen..." isnt exactly the perfect start to today
Anyone else think Potema's child was probably illegitimate? In the real world, almost every time a royal couple has a kid after years and years of trying, the speculation is always a different father.
People That Became Gods Vivvek: I traveled the Planes, slept with and battled Daedra, and stole the power from the heart of a God. Mannimarco: I perfected Necromancy and enacted a prophecy of my own design. Tiber Septim: I conquered a continent using a mechanical God. The Champion of Cyrodil: I helped save the world from a Daedric invasion, restored the Daedric Prince of Order, and mantled the Dardric Prince of Madness. Rajin: I steal shit!!!!
Elder Scrolls 6 will be about restoring the Empire (the only thing stopping the Dominion from conquering everything and stopping the Thalmor from ending the world
About the last minutes of the video, the Dark Elves are even more weaker than the Empire itself. Red Mountain eruption, the prior disapearence of the tribunals, the oblivion crisis and the argonian invasion, they are not at the position to fight against anyone for Independence, including the Empire, maybe the successful rebelion of the Redguards against the High Elves and the rebelion in Skyrim against the Empire could give them some inspiration, but there's no doubt that they are in a more weaker position than the Redguards and the Nords. My theories, the "last" Dragonborn becomes the new Emperor/Empress (it doens't matter which side he/she joined, the Stormcloaks or the Empire) and at least all the mannish provinces + Morrowind were maintaned or reconquered by this new Empire. Problably the Redguards becomes reunited with the Empire without resistance if him/herself restored the Cult of Talos and lead a war against the Aldmeri Dominion, and of course, the Redguards would be weakend because of the War against the Aldmer (a war that extended even after the White-Gold Concordat), as well as the Nords would be weakened from the Civil War. I don't know if he/she would achieve to reunify the entirity of the Empire at its peak, but at least all the mankind would be united under his/her banner, the Argonians may kept their independence (and let's be honest, even before the Oblivion Crisis, in practice they already were independent) as well as the Elves with the exception of Morrowind for the reasons I already explained in the first paragraph.
My question is at what point did High Rock join the Empire? Because in any lore video or any reddito post or anything online the story goes Tiber fought the Bretons at Sancre Tor then the conquest of Cyrodiil happens then it goes Hammerfell,Morrowind, then the Dominion skipping over what happened to High Rock. Did they join after Sancre Tor or after the crowning of Tiber? I have no clue
The reason children are adopted is literally because they didn't want to bother or saw the need to create a pregnancy system/sex or whatever. I would definitely say it's one of those things that's up to the player. It's headcanon, like whether the Champion of Cyrodill mantled and became Sheogorath (Which was confirmed by Michael Kirkbride, stating it was in the original design documents for Shivering Isles).
Fun fact: "Hjalti" roughly means "man from Hjaltland" (Hjaltland = Shetland). "Hjalti" may also mean "man of the hilt/shaft" (as in the "hilt" of a sword). (This name is still used as Hjalti, Hjalta or Hjalte, depending on Nordic country in Europe). If it is not obvious, "Hjalti" is of Norse origin, which (as we know) is the main inspiration for the Nords in the Elder Scrolls universe. But "Hjalti Earlybeard" in Elder Scrolls Universe is supposed to be a 'Breton'? But having a very Nord-like name? Could it then be that this "Hjalti Earlybeard" is of mixed Nordic-Breton origin (where he has some Breton blood, but uses a Nordic name), or just a Nord from High Rock? Food for thought...
The idea of the Dragonborn from skyrim becoming emperor just fits so well as a connecting historic point! Every elder scrolls has some connection or reference to previous games, in books or dialogue or other ways. The Neravarine from morrowind, and the hero of kivach in oblivion are all recognized as historic figures and their effects on the history show in the next games. But its never anything this direct. Having dragonborn become emperor could open the state of the empire for wild changes to be made! I really hope Todd Howard is a fan of the channel and hears this plot point because its too good to ignore now! Edit: Ther must be some theories about the future of Tamriel? A podcast episode on some of these theories would be a good listen! (frantically searching for theories now)
It seems like a bad idea just because it makes it difficult to leave the race in ambiguity. Personally, I hope the Dragonborn joins the Nerevarine in Akavir in the fight against an unknown threat.
@@badluck5647 I think most people would agree that the draginborn from skyrim would most likely fit as a nord, but to keep it racially unknown as they mentioned in the podcast, make the spouse a specific race and then any following children can cannonically be whatever they decide. And as for depictions of race just put a helmet on their head and call it a day
I actually thought the first time i read the lore of elder scrolls that maybe one of those septims lied about being dragonborn. Like how kings and emperors in some culture made up story that trace their lineage to a deity, or taht they hung out with a god and gain their approval, or whatever legitimise their rule.
I feel as though most of the things in es lore involving the Nation's and their dynasties are fairly accurate to how real kingdoms and empires worked. Like Hjalti/Talos/Zurin adopting the name Tiber Septim upon being crowned Emperor. Rulers all over the world adopted regal names when assuming a title, usually naming themselves after previous rulers who were considered great or gifting themselves with names with important meanings. An example Napolean III was named after his Uncle Also the name Napoleon means new cities lion or Lion of the new city. Another point on the septim dynasty is it followed an equal inheritance between children meaning the 1st born was pretty much always the ruler as long as they lived into adulthood. Also very commonly if a line from a King died out it would follow the next closest line so Tiber's Niece becoming empress is not strange. Dragon blood deciding an emperor is like the European divine right or Chinese mandate of heaven. If anyone has any corrections for my statement please leave a comment below...
This is ripped from the Unofficial ElderScrolls Wiki: Empress Katariah, born Katariah *Ra'athim,* was part of a prominent Ebonheart family, and she had been Duchess of Vvardenfell before she was married in 3E 141, to Pelagius Septim III, who was then ruler of Solitude (though they would go on to become Emperor and Empress). The unusual union was thought to have occurred both to cement Imperial relations with Ebonheart and because Emperor Magnus hoped Katariah, who was known for her shrewdness, could help conceal the eccentricities of his son Pelagius. Katariah was awarded the regency of Tamriel in 3E 147. The Empress Regent of Tamriel was proclaimed Empress Katariah I upon the death of her husband in 3E 153, and her almost fifty-year reign is remembered as a happy one.
Honestly, I believe it's a misconception to see the term Dragonborn in relation to Emperors as being the same as the kind of Dragonborn talked about in Skyrim. Before Skyrim, Dragonborn usually meant something along the lines of "Of the Empire" and the thuum was always separate. So I feel like when Akatosh chose an Emperor, he chose the one he felt (?) Was truly born of the Empire and of the Pact, not necessarily granting Dragonborn thuum status.
Being of the Dragon Blood and being a Dragonborn hero are the same thing in the lore. Dragonborn heroes are defined as mortals that share some of Akatosh's divine essence. Dragonborn emperors are also defined as having Akatosh's essence. There is no distinction. This goes back to St. Alessia's pact with the god, which was reaffirmed by Reman and Tiber Septim. Now, Tiber Septim didn't just coincidentally happen to be a Dragonborn hero _and_ also have the Dragon Blood needed to gain Akatosh's blessing to light the Dragonfires and rule as emperor. Akatosh didn't make him a Dragonborn despite there being no dragons just for a laugh, and then decide _afterwards_ that he'd also make a good emperor. The God of Time made him Dragonborn so that he had the Dragon Blood needed to light the fires. To be one is to be the other. Further leading credence to the idea that they are the same thing is that the Akaviri Dragonguard recognized the Dragon Blood emperors as being the ultimate dragon slayers, and swore to be their personal protectors. They did not recognize just one of them, but the entire bloodline. They would not have done that if they didn't think they were worthy of the title. In my mind, the only practical difference between the two types of Dragonborn is that the Dragonborn emperors didn't shout. I do not think this is because they were incapable of doing so, but because they had no reason to pursue their godly talents. After Tiber Septim's reign there were no major conquests left and there were no dragons to threaten the mortals of Nirn. Shouting wouldn't have helped them reform the empire's bureaucracy or streamline its tax systems. Shouts are a combat orientated set of skills that don't lend themselves to the intricacies of running an empire. Those of Alessia and Reman's line probably didn't even know that they _could_ shout, since again, the dragons were already gone and the Greybeards never had to call on them to face them. I genuinely believe that if the Amulet of Kings and the Dragonfires still existed, the Last Dragonborn could have walked into the Temple of the One, put on the Amulet, and lit them. They would have been of the Dragon Blood via being Dragonborn and so would have had Akatosh's blessing. Now it doesn't matter, since the Dragon Blood requirement ceased at the end of the Oblivion Crisis, and the line of Tiber Septim was no more. To summarize, not all Dragonborn were emperors, but all emperors were Dragonborn. The vast majority of them may have never utilized their ability to shout, but they did have the *potential* to do so. There has been nothing in the lore to suggest otherwise, besides a lack of records showing that those aside from Tiber Septim _did_ shout during their reigns, which doesn't prove that they couldn't.
@@DovahFett disagree. For one: there was dragons in Tiber Septim's time. This is an issue with the lore in Skyrim. Also what about Uriel Septim the 5th who went off to Akavir? Seems like shouting would have really helped in that, but we have no records not even out of canon ones of him shouting. Tiber Septim is a bad example because his story is far more metaphysically complicated. Its possible it wasn't Tiber Septim at all who had the voice power, but Ysmir Wulfharth. Reman was born metaphysically and divinely. Also shouting probably really would have helped Uriel 6th or wtv when he got assassinated. Keep in mind that during the creation of the lore for Reman and the Akaviri invasion, dragons and the voice were not yet connected in lore and dragons themselves were far more animal feeling. To say every Emperor COULD use the voice brings up issues that are more easily resolved by acknowledging the difference in what Dragonborn meant preskyrim. The Thuum used to be an innate power ALL nords had.
@34:50 Crazy idea but... *WHAT IF* The emperor's time in Oblivion did do all of that and it is a gift to dream prophecies by having crazy dreams..... and they are a gift from Sheogorath... whom he sees the player character as sheogorath in a past sense. Like he knows the prisoner will mantel Sheogorath or time isnt as fluid in his dreams and that could be due to the amulet of kings having ties to the God of Time.
My last comment: my daughter got Skyrim for their Switch. Unfortunately, she hasn't gotten far because it's so flippin' small & hard to see on a Switch. I am going to get her a copy for their Xbox so she can actually play it! 😁 🐲 I usually put on Fudgemuppet when I go to sleep, for some background noise, & maybe I will absorb some of the lore in my sleep, lol! So one morning when my daughter stopped over, she heard your podcast playing. I told her to go watch your channel!
If you have a smart TV, you can hook up your Switch to it and play the game on it like any other console. Don't have a switch personally, but I've seen family do it. You should look into that before dropping another $50 on a game. Unless you want to of course. On Xbox, it probably plays better and certainly looks better.
The Amulet of Kings was a covenant between Akatosh and mortals to protect them from the ravages of Oblivion's Princes . It did not mean that every descendant of the 1st wearer were Dragon Born , just that they were of the blood line . So all the Court back stage plots are just plots by the Deadric princes. Wolf ring [Hiercine ] , insanity [Sheogorath] , etc , etc .
I thought your analysis of TMII was far too generous. Yes, he would have felt backed into a corner after 5 years of war, but the terms of the WGC (like the Ultimatum) were transparently designed to have the Empire tear itself apart. I assume too it was meant to be temporary, but it is really poor planning and leadership to not do what you need to before the completely and blatantly foreseeable consequences eventuate.
“I don’t believe Titus Meade could have assassinated himself but I believe all the dumb shit Kirkbride wrote when he was no longer working on the game”
Well, let's see, just a small swath the 3rd Empire alone is full of strife. Not even any of the Dominion's have had THIS much Instability, tbh... 3E 317 to 3E 339: Empress Morihatha took over. The Empire's reach beyond Cyrodiil had started to disintegrate, open revolutions and civil wars had raged in the provinces since the days of Cephorus Septim II (3E 247). Morihatha slowly dealt with the uprisings. While successful her slow pace annoyed the Elder Council, resulting in her assassination in 3E 339, supposedly at the call of an Argonian councilor who considered her pace too slow for troubled Black Marsh. 3E 339 to 3E 368: Pelagius Septim VII continued where his predecessor left off, slowly taking back the revolutionary regions of the Empire. While not as successful as his predecessor, a result of Pelagius placing an Imperial presence on kingdoms which had long been on their own, Pelagius brought about stability which had not been seen since the days of Uriel Septim I (3E 48 to 3E 64). 3E 389 to 3E 399: Under the rule of Uriel Septim VII, Jagar Tharn takes control of the Empire, puting a halt to the Imperial reconquests that Uriel had enacted before being trapped. The Imperial Simulacrum saw strife and war aplenty. The Imperial Battlespire, testing ground for the Shadow Legion, was taken over by Daedra before its destruction, Skyrim invaded High Rock and Hammerfell during the War of Bend'r Mahk, Black Marsh and Morrowind were involved in a war known as the Arnesian War which saw Morrowind take over parts of northern Black Marsh. When King Helseth of Morrowind later outlawed slavery at the wishes of the Empire he too faced a bloody Civil war when House Indoril was involved in a House War with the Hlaalu and Dres.
@@badluck5647 Meh, considering the state the Dominion left Southern Hammerfell in, and the fact that the 2 were in a Stalemate despite you Redguards having Homefield advantage says a lot about the skills of my colleagues. Hell, Southern Hammerfell was decimated as we left as well, and it was a struggle on BOTH sides, not just one... we left but we Sacked the hell out of your lands and left it more of a wasteland than it already was, so... enjoy your "victory" while it lasts, insolent fool 😤 Also, don't forget that it was an internal Valenwood struggle as well as pirate issues that the Altmer came in to stop, and the Thalmor DO have allies in Valenwood, so some Bosmer did Rebel, some allied willingly so, the Thalmor coup to put their own ally in charge, so, makes sense. Not to mention, that's nothing compared to the atrocities of the Empire. The list I gave is merely a PORTION of it all 😅
Conspiracy thoery: Reman Cyrodil was actually a Daedra and King Hrol was a daedric worshipper that forced the Empire to worship this creature. His battle against the Akaviri invasion was actually bewitching the armies to his command.
That theory Michael said of the current Emperor being the Dragonborns son, would be a great thing to see & more of the Dragonborn's children using the Thuum would make the Imperial Empire a powerhouse not even the Aldemeri Dominion can destroy. I would also love to see Serana as well if she's in the ES6.
@@badluck5647 Martin has some explaining to do? maybe he used sanguine's rose on an argonian the guy must have read the lusty argonian maid and decided to become like crassius curo..
We NEED an episode on Talos’ ascension to godhood, with all the good shit, I’m talking Tiber Septim/Ysmir Wulfhart/Zurin Arctus Venn diagram, Numidium, etc.
less of a TES theory and more of a fun fact, at the beginning intro of skyrim the prisoner that comes before you lies face down on the block, your character lies on their side and looks towards the tower from the side or sideways sound familler maybe this is a small reference to the esoteric idea of looking upon the wheel or tower sideways and realizing the truth of the reality and achieving khim!
I had played Oblivion one time, and before I even played the main quest, I had became the Grand champion of the arena, the listener of the dark brotherhood, the arch-mage of the mages guild, the leader of the thieves guild, and the leader of the fighters guild. Then I started the main quest, and became a knight brother of the blades.
Unrelated, but I'm not sure if we'll get a satisfying conclusion to the Dominion plotline. At worst, it'll just be background lore that resolved itself. As for plot in the next game, it will likely involve another third party that is doing bad stuff, which would take a lot of the focus. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
One of Camel's comments in your iceberg videos got me thinking. He said something about all the bastard children Uriel Septim had, which made me wonder about either bastard children from earlier Septims, or possibly one the last Uriel doesn't know about. Say there was a daughter he never knew about because her Nordic mother fled to Skyrim to keep him from knowing about her. She's raised in Skyrim having a Nordic stepfather, probably marries a Nordic man in the future, & her children are raised in the Nordic culture with their values. Then, two hundred-some years later, we have the Last Dragonborn, who is, in reality, an actual descendant of the Septim Dynasty. Not only does the Last Dragonborn have dragon blood, but we are also blessed with the Thu'um. It works for me at least, because I usually play a Nord, in all Elder Scrolls games. That's a real world mythology I find fascinating. This wouldn't apply to other races quite as well. 😕 Maybe someone else can reason through that theory for a different race.
I think the reason katariah was able to be empress without doing the dragonfire stuff is because those only go out when the emperor DIES and since Pelagius was declared unfit rather than killed the dragon fires would still be lit as they were at his coronation until his death in his cell, giving her the ability to bypass the dragonblood requirement
Tin foil conspiracy: Cuhlecain was jealous of how much the soldiers loved Tiber and became paranoid that Tiber would try and usurp him. So Cuhlecain slits Tiber’s throat from behind in an attempt to kill him but also take away his thu’um should the attempt fail. It does fail, and Tiber kills the soon to be emperor in self defense. Tiber makes up the story of an assassin to avoid imprisonment or execution for killing Cuhlecain. But also to preserve the legacy of his commander and friend who lost himself in paranoia. Tiber becomes the reluctant leader. A soldier who never wanted to rule so did what he did best as emperor; fight and win wars. Thus he went about conquering and uniting all of Tamriel.
I could see that, but wouldn't Tiber's rise to power be more interesting if he plotted and schemed his way to power instead just stumbled into it due to a jealous superior?
I like the realism of the third era, it’s extremely hard to keep an empire unified for centuries. As Kyle Harper said, whats amazing about the Roman Empire is the longevity despite all it had to endure
Also makes it more dense, since it's comparatively short and has significantly more lore to it
The romans had an emphasis on provincial and local governments, that is what allowed them to stay together as an empire for as long as they did. The romans were definitely more politically advanced in comparison to the septim dynasty.
You could also see the same with the British dynasty from Edward IV. He is considered the bastard by an archer especially since his pregnancy was 10 months in duration and his father was in France during the key period.
The present heir of the alternate line lives in Australia and doesn’t give a hoot about being king.
Roman Empire didn’t last that long
Podcast Idea: Mannimarco & the Worm Cult
Yes pls
Facts
They have that yall are tripping
@@TheFeltmeister You are mistaken.
Otherwise provide a link.
Excellent idea!
Podcast Idea: Morihaus & the Minotaurs
(Minotaurs: Hircine's man-beasts or Kyne's divine warriors?)
100% agree
I read that last line with the voice of J. Jonah Jameson
The werewolf isn't what makes Pelagius III go mad! It's written in Wolf Queen Vol. 8 that Potema, in her OLD AGE (She also didn't disguise herself as an old crone, she WAS an old crone at this point) takes the amulet with the werewolf soul to the Solitude Mages' Guild and has them release the werewolf's soul while also enchanting the necklace to have a curse on it. That curse is what makes Pelagius III go crazy.
Podcast Idea: Blackreach
(Dwemers, Falmer, Vampiric Night Lords, and other mysteries)
This is a good video idea
I'd definitely like to learn some mysteries about Blackreach.
Podcast idea: Uriel Septim
Will he ever conquer the big sad? 😔
Podcast Idea: Cameron Dynasty (and why Glarthir is secretly the true ruler of Valenwood?)
Podcast Idea: Psijic Order
(A lot of mystery from these magicians)
I would love to watch a podcast in the psijic if they have enough foundation for it
@@keith7671 there's enough now with what ESO added
I'd like to see you guys go over the Tharn family tree
This
Here:
ua-cam.com/video/T6xdVqzTyNc/v-deo.html
@@badluck5647 thanks I had forgotten about this video but I still think it would be entertaining to have a podcast discussion about them
@@toddkeyser4254 It is an old video, so it didn't cover the new stuff about Abnur and his half-sister.
@@badluck5647 I haven't played ESO since the markarth dlc so I wasn't even aware of the new stuff I should probably get back into it I heard black wood was really good and the Breton dlc looks good too
Podcast about Pelinal Whitestrake.
Or maybe one that covers the knight orders of Tamriel. I know you guys did a video about the subject a while back, but I think it's still an interesting topic.
Uriel Septim is an overrated Emperor. The Empire wouldn't be covered in bandits if he wasn't constantly releasing criminals from prison in hope that the criminals will save the Empire.
in all fairness at least 3 worked and 2 completely saved nirn and 1 him
@@adrianbaisden7655 Even a broken clock is right a twice a day
brudda how many comments did you make on this video
@@sam_v_murray6037 just 1
To be fair the bandits would eventually be killed by the 3 that he was right on.
Podcast Idea: Vivec & Almalexia
(Scott alone could make a Vicec podcast into three parts with each part running more than four hours)
Yeah, maybe it's just me, but if they're going to make a Sotha Sil episode, they should eventually make Vivec and Almalexia episodes too.
@@MathiasWashburne I personally assume they are putting it off, because the topic is too big and complex for them to go off of memory in a podcast format. Just read the 36 lessons of Vivec to understand the undertaking.
@@badluck5647 Yeah, IIRC they've discussed the idea of Vivec on multiple podcasts, including a separate session just for the 36 Lessons. An Almalexia episode would be nice to get soon because it's already been six months since Sotha Sil's, but Vivec won't come for quite a while.
@@MathiasWashburne It must be the Mandela Effect, because I swear I heard an Almalexia podcast already.
It is overdue, because she is a fascinating character is often overshadowed by Sotha Sil and Vivec.
@@badluck5647 ua-cam.com/play/PLt4dvC3zSbYDv5nI3FPR3VncQWSiSKRMW.html
Just checked, no Almalexia episode yet.
Podcast Idea: Dagoth Ur & the Sixth House
(The topic was barely touched in the Great House podcast)
Podcast idea: Summerset islands' future - how is every High elf's life changing since the Thalmor have taken over
Podcast Idea: An episode about all the Mortals that have become Gods, Demigods, and Daedra, and how they did it, as well as what they've done/influenced after becoming Gods.
The term you are looking for is the *Psijic Endeavor* -- the process by which mortals are charged with transcending the gods that created them.
I wonder if the Thalmor hate Rajhin as much as Talos. The idea of a Khajiit obtaining godhood through thievery must be incredibly offensive to the elven supremacists.
Podcast Idea: Beyond Skyrim (w/ guest)
(Some of the Beyond Skyrim teams are trying to promote interest in their projects, so maybe a team leader will do an interview.)
Smash or Pass II?
I second this! They are putting in so much work on these, & I think I am looking forward to these even more than the future next game.
I’ve been listening to the Esoterica UA-cam Channel and his Introduction to the Kabbalah series really makes me realize the writers of the Monomyth and lot of Morrowind’s lore had some understanding of the weirder parts of ancient philosophies and magical thought.
A podcast (way down the line because of the necessary research) looking at the Philosophies Of The Elder Scrolls may be interesting!
It is not really known if the empire withdrew its troops from Morrowins in the crisis of oblivion. Ocato literally says in Oblivion that the empire's troops are overstretched and he can't bring them to Cyrodill. There are 2 versions, the version of Ocato and Oblivion and the version of the dunmer of Morrowind (coincidentally from a house that has historically been reluctant to the empire), also in Oblivion and you can hear generic rumors from among the citizenry about how the Legion is stretched across the Empire:
''I hear that those Oblivion Gates are opening everywhere. They say the Legion is stretched to the limit across the Empire."
The Empire of Tiber Septim was a different kind,nearly all of Tamriel was conquered but with so many provinces under you control you take all the trouble of them with you.
I watch every video I can get my paws on and I still don’t understand shit, but I love listening to y’all and feeling involved in dissecting the history and lore! Appreciate your hard work ❤️
You still need to do the podcast on Hammerfell
By the time TES VI arrives we'll be in the next Kalpa and everyone will be like "Wow, what is this crazy new IP?"
The Elder Scrolls Podcast, prior to the Fudge Muppet dragon break, the format change, & Drewmora on a pilgrimage to seek Chim. Is this what being Well-Rested feels like?
“The emperor is the Dragonborn’s son”
*cough* Hearthfire *cough*
Podcast Idea: Tiber Septim & Talos
(Everyone loves heroes and conspiracies.)
Haven't watched you guys in a couple of months, CONGRATS ON THE 1 MILLION SUBS FELLAS! To celebrate I'll binge watch every video I missed 👍😁👍
Podcast Idea: Auri-El vs Akatosh
(Next to the Deadra Princes, the Dragon God is the most involved God in the universe.)
I want this one, I believe Akatosh is Auri-el "corrupted" by Lorkhan ideals and humanity.
@@AnonymousAnonposter
True.
Akatosh is "the time god" with aspects of Lorkhan's ideals. A time god that also serves as a Patron god to the Empire of Man. A bastardozation made by Allesia to give Lorkhan a friendly time god buddy to have.
Marukhati Selective gave ma boi Auriel a massive migraine 😢
@Incapacitating Strike
Precisely. An Et'Ada that combines aspects of Time and aspects of Lorkhan's ideals
@@AnonymousAnonposter "Some say Alduin is Akatosh, some say M'aiq is a Liar. Don't you believe either of those things."
Been waiting for a new episode of Fudgemuppet delving into all the lore and turn it into a weekly existential crisis. All the jokes aside, great to see you guys still keeping our love for Elder Scrolls alive.
In terms of an episode idea, I’d definitely be interested in an episode talking about your ideas of alternate Elder Scrolls history. Perhaps each pitches an idea and then all three discuss what would come of it? Example: “What if the Orcs had managed to keep Orsinium and hold it from the multiple invasions.”
Would be great to see you delve into theories and what could have happened.
I dont know if it's cuz it's a hazy morning or I got a comfortable sleep or what, but damn if hearing that music and "what is up ladies and gentlemen..." isnt exactly the perfect start to today
I had a great time listening to this while making dinner, thank you so much!
Anyone else think Potema's child was probably illegitimate? In the real world, almost every time a royal couple has a kid after years and years of trying, the speculation is always a different father.
Podcast Idea: Creation Club
(Best & Worst Additions)
Podcast Idea: Underrated/Pet NPCs and why you love em
We need to return to an empire where sometimes people just transform into minotaurs. We need a minotaur emperor.
Thought this was just a video, then I realized it's a whole podcast and now I feel great lol 🐑
Saaaammmeeeee !
Allright, you made us wait 2 weeks for this Sunday weed n coffee dudes, I was worried. Hi from Uruguay as always, ty for existing ♪
Podcast idea: Kothringi.
People That Became Gods
Vivvek: I traveled the Planes, slept with and battled Daedra, and stole the power from the heart of a God.
Mannimarco: I perfected Necromancy and enacted a prophecy of my own design.
Tiber Septim: I conquered a continent using a mechanical God.
The Champion of Cyrodil: I helped save the world from a Daedric invasion, restored the Daedric Prince of Order, and mantled the Dardric Prince of Madness.
Rajin: I steal shit!!!!
Oblivion NPC dialogue: "The emperor has been assassinated, and with no heirs! That's never happened before."
Bro.
“My brother in talos, you live in Cyrodiil. Surely you know this?”
Elder Scrolls 6 will be about restoring the Empire (the only thing stopping the Dominion from conquering everything and stopping the Thalmor from ending the world
Podcast Idea: Dawnguard vs Volkihar
(Pick a side)
Michael, I think you’re right, we may see a Martin “Septim”descendant from Martin’s Sanguine era. Awesome discussion.
Nothing better than playing skyrim while listening to a new Elder Scrolls Podcast
on god- i mean on akatosh
About the last minutes of the video, the Dark Elves are even more weaker than the Empire itself. Red Mountain eruption, the prior disapearence of the tribunals, the oblivion crisis and the argonian invasion, they are not at the position to fight against anyone for Independence, including the Empire, maybe the successful rebelion of the Redguards against the High Elves and the rebelion in Skyrim against the Empire could give them some inspiration, but there's no doubt that they are in a more weaker position than the Redguards and the Nords.
My theories, the "last" Dragonborn becomes the new Emperor/Empress (it doens't matter which side he/she joined, the Stormcloaks or the Empire) and at least all the mannish provinces + Morrowind were maintaned or reconquered by this new Empire. Problably the Redguards becomes reunited with the Empire without resistance if him/herself restored the Cult of Talos and lead a war against the Aldmeri Dominion, and of course, the Redguards would be weakend because of the War against the Aldmer (a war that extended even after the White-Gold Concordat), as well as the Nords would be weakened from the Civil War.
I don't know if he/she would achieve to reunify the entirity of the Empire at its peak, but at least all the mankind would be united under his/her banner, the Argonians may kept their independence (and let's be honest, even before the Oblivion Crisis, in practice they already were independent) as well as the Elves with the exception of Morrowind for the reasons I already explained in the first paragraph.
My favorite podcast, it feeds my TES lore addiction, love you guys keep the great work, would love to have a podcast on Mannimarco and Vanus Galerion.
been watching since the start in 2013, i was only a kid and now im an adult! congrats on the 1mil guys :D
Podcast idea : Atmora...
My question is at what point did High Rock join the Empire? Because in any lore video or any reddito post or anything online the story goes Tiber fought the Bretons at Sancre Tor then the conquest of Cyrodiil happens then it goes Hammerfell,Morrowind, then the Dominion skipping over what happened to High Rock. Did they join after Sancre Tor or after the crowning of Tiber? I have no clue
Whos to say the dragonborn could procreate? Maybe the dragonborn is infertile.
I mean .... Hearthfire canonises the fact that he/she ADOPTED children
The reason children are adopted is literally because they didn't want to bother or saw the need to create a pregnancy system/sex or whatever.
I would definitely say it's one of those things that's up to the player. It's headcanon, like whether the Champion of Cyrodill mantled and became Sheogorath (Which was confirmed by Michael Kirkbride, stating it was in the original design documents for Shivering Isles).
Fun fact:
"Hjalti" roughly means "man from Hjaltland" (Hjaltland = Shetland).
"Hjalti" may also mean "man of the hilt/shaft" (as in the "hilt" of a sword).
(This name is still used as Hjalti, Hjalta or Hjalte, depending on Nordic country in Europe).
If it is not obvious, "Hjalti" is of Norse origin, which (as we know) is the main inspiration for the Nords in the Elder Scrolls universe.
But "Hjalti Earlybeard" in Elder Scrolls Universe is supposed to be a 'Breton'? But having a very Nord-like name?
Could it then be that this "Hjalti Earlybeard" is of mixed Nordic-Breton origin (where he has some Breton blood, but uses a Nordic name), or just a Nord from High Rock?
Food for thought...
I'm fairly certain its that he's a Breton who lived in Skyrim for an extended period of time, and probably/definitely had some Nordic family
The idea of the Dragonborn from skyrim becoming emperor just fits so well as a connecting historic point! Every elder scrolls has some connection or reference to previous games, in books or dialogue or other ways. The Neravarine from morrowind, and the hero of kivach in oblivion are all recognized as historic figures and their effects on the history show in the next games. But its never anything this direct. Having dragonborn become emperor could open the state of the empire for wild changes to be made!
I really hope Todd Howard is a fan of the channel and hears this plot point because its too good to ignore now!
Edit: Ther must be some theories about the future of Tamriel? A podcast episode on some of these theories would be a good listen! (frantically searching for theories now)
It seems like a bad idea just because it makes it difficult to leave the race in ambiguity.
Personally, I hope the Dragonborn joins the Nerevarine in Akavir in the fight against an unknown threat.
@@badluck5647 I think most people would agree that the draginborn from skyrim would most likely fit as a nord, but to keep it racially unknown as they mentioned in the podcast, make the spouse a specific race and then any following children can cannonically be whatever they decide. And as for depictions of race just put a helmet on their head and call it a day
The possible future of Tamriel would actually be a fun discussion!
Podcast Idea: Morag Tong
(The Dark Brotherhood Rival)
I actually thought the first time i read the lore of elder scrolls that maybe one of those septims lied about being dragonborn. Like how kings and emperors in some culture made up story that trace their lineage to a deity, or taht they hung out with a god and gain their approval, or whatever legitimise their rule.
Honestly this was the best birthday present ! My birthday was the 5th and listened to this as soon as it came out on Spotify
Regarding Michael’s idea of an army of Dragonborn, “got to thinking, maybe we are all Dragon born, and we just don’t know it yet.”
I do not think two Dragonborns walk Nirn at the same time.
If that was the case, the War of the Red Diamond would be like a nuclear fallout
I feel as though most of the things in es lore involving the Nation's and their dynasties are fairly accurate to how real kingdoms and empires worked. Like Hjalti/Talos/Zurin adopting the name Tiber Septim upon being crowned Emperor. Rulers all over the world adopted regal names when assuming a title, usually naming themselves after previous rulers who were considered great or gifting themselves with names with important meanings. An example Napolean III was named after his Uncle Also the name Napoleon means new cities lion or Lion of the new city. Another point on the septim dynasty is it followed an equal inheritance between children meaning the 1st born was pretty much always the ruler as long as they lived into adulthood. Also very commonly if a line from a King died out it would follow the next closest line so Tiber's Niece becoming empress is not strange. Dragon blood deciding an emperor is like the European divine right or Chinese mandate of heaven. If anyone has any corrections for my statement please leave a comment below...
Do a video on the dunmer empress of Cyrodiil
There was a Dunmer Empress? How did that come to pass?
@@cheeksclapper69-e6w look it up, empress Katariah was a dunmer
This is ripped from the Unofficial ElderScrolls Wiki:
Empress Katariah, born Katariah *Ra'athim,* was part of a prominent Ebonheart family, and she had been Duchess of Vvardenfell before she was married in 3E 141, to Pelagius Septim III, who was then ruler of Solitude (though they would go on to become Emperor and Empress). The unusual union was thought to have occurred both to cement Imperial relations with Ebonheart and because Emperor Magnus hoped Katariah, who was known for her shrewdness, could help conceal the eccentricities of his son Pelagius. Katariah was awarded the regency of Tamriel in 3E 147. The Empress Regent of Tamriel was proclaimed Empress Katariah I upon the death of her husband in 3E 153, and her almost fifty-year reign is remembered as a happy one.
Honestly, I believe it's a misconception to see the term Dragonborn in relation to Emperors as being the same as the kind of Dragonborn talked about in Skyrim. Before Skyrim, Dragonborn usually meant something along the lines of "Of the Empire" and the thuum was always separate. So I feel like when Akatosh chose an Emperor, he chose the one he felt (?) Was truly born of the Empire and of the Pact, not necessarily granting Dragonborn thuum status.
Being of the Dragon Blood and being a Dragonborn hero are the same thing in the lore. Dragonborn heroes are defined as mortals that share some of Akatosh's divine essence. Dragonborn emperors are also defined as having Akatosh's essence. There is no distinction. This goes back to St. Alessia's pact with the god, which was reaffirmed by Reman and Tiber Septim. Now, Tiber Septim didn't just coincidentally happen to be a Dragonborn hero _and_ also have the Dragon Blood needed to gain Akatosh's blessing to light the Dragonfires and rule as emperor. Akatosh didn't make him a Dragonborn despite there being no dragons just for a laugh, and then decide _afterwards_ that he'd also make a good emperor. The God of Time made him Dragonborn so that he had the Dragon Blood needed to light the fires. To be one is to be the other. Further leading credence to the idea that they are the same thing is that the Akaviri Dragonguard recognized the Dragon Blood emperors as being the ultimate dragon slayers, and swore to be their personal protectors. They did not recognize just one of them, but the entire bloodline. They would not have done that if they didn't think they were worthy of the title.
In my mind, the only practical difference between the two types of Dragonborn is that the Dragonborn emperors didn't shout. I do not think this is because they were incapable of doing so, but because they had no reason to pursue their godly talents. After Tiber Septim's reign there were no major conquests left and there were no dragons to threaten the mortals of Nirn. Shouting wouldn't have helped them reform the empire's bureaucracy or streamline its tax systems. Shouts are a combat orientated set of skills that don't lend themselves to the intricacies of running an empire. Those of Alessia and Reman's line probably didn't even know that they _could_ shout, since again, the dragons were already gone and the Greybeards never had to call on them to face them.
I genuinely believe that if the Amulet of Kings and the Dragonfires still existed, the Last Dragonborn could have walked into the Temple of the One, put on the Amulet, and lit them. They would have been of the Dragon Blood via being Dragonborn and so would have had Akatosh's blessing. Now it doesn't matter, since the Dragon Blood requirement ceased at the end of the Oblivion Crisis, and the line of Tiber Septim was no more.
To summarize, not all Dragonborn were emperors, but all emperors were Dragonborn. The vast majority of them may have never utilized their ability to shout, but they did have the *potential* to do so. There has been nothing in the lore to suggest otherwise, besides a lack of records showing that those aside from Tiber Septim _did_ shout during their reigns, which doesn't prove that they couldn't.
@@DovahFett disagree. For one: there was dragons in Tiber Septim's time. This is an issue with the lore in Skyrim. Also what about Uriel Septim the 5th who went off to Akavir? Seems like shouting would have really helped in that, but we have no records not even out of canon ones of him shouting. Tiber Septim is a bad example because his story is far more metaphysically complicated. Its possible it wasn't Tiber Septim at all who had the voice power, but Ysmir Wulfharth. Reman was born metaphysically and divinely. Also shouting probably really would have helped Uriel 6th or wtv when he got assassinated. Keep in mind that during the creation of the lore for Reman and the Akaviri invasion, dragons and the voice were not yet connected in lore and dragons themselves were far more animal feeling. To say every Emperor COULD use the voice brings up issues that are more easily resolved by acknowledging the difference in what Dragonborn meant preskyrim. The Thuum used to be an innate power ALL nords had.
@34:50 Crazy idea but... *WHAT IF* The emperor's time in Oblivion did do all of that and it is a gift to dream prophecies by having crazy dreams..... and they are a gift from Sheogorath... whom he sees the player character as sheogorath in a past sense. Like he knows the prisoner will mantel Sheogorath or time isnt as fluid in his dreams and that could be due to the amulet of kings having ties to the God of Time.
I had a podcast idea: I would love to see what new shouts other fans could come up with. There could be some fun ones!
tks for the new episode!
My last comment: my daughter got Skyrim for their Switch. Unfortunately, she hasn't gotten far because it's so flippin' small & hard to see on a Switch. I am going to get her a copy for their Xbox so she can actually play it! 😁 🐲
I usually put on Fudgemuppet when I go to sleep, for some background noise, & maybe I will absorb some of the lore in my sleep, lol! So one morning when my daughter stopped over, she heard your podcast playing. I told her to go watch your channel!
If you have a smart TV, you can hook up your Switch to it and play the game on it like any other console. Don't have a switch personally, but I've seen family do it. You should look into that before dropping another $50 on a game. Unless you want to of course. On Xbox, it probably plays better and certainly looks better.
@@lazilycatharticone4191 thank you 😊
@@Mary_Beth_Reimer you're very welcome 😁
I am freakin' DIGGING Drew's beard and hair now.
I really wish if they're gonna make a TES TV series, they will make the War of Red Diamond
The Amulet of Kings was a covenant between Akatosh and mortals to protect them from the ravages of Oblivion's Princes . It did not mean that every descendant of the 1st wearer were Dragon Born , just that they were of the blood line .
So all the Court back stage plots are just plots by the Deadric princes. Wolf ring [Hiercine ] , insanity [Sheogorath] , etc , etc .
Everybody loses in war, man
If the Elder council chose who was dragonborn they would've just made ocato that
I thought your analysis of TMII was far too generous. Yes, he would have felt backed into a corner after 5 years of war, but the terms of the WGC (like the Ultimatum) were transparently designed to have the Empire tear itself apart. I assume too it was meant to be temporary, but it is really poor planning and leadership to not do what you need to before the completely and blatantly foreseeable consequences eventuate.
Sometimes it feels like the Targaryen's dynasty in the Westeros universe is so much like the Septim dynasty's storyline.
There is less inbreeding on Tamriel.
“I don’t believe Titus Meade could have assassinated himself but I believe all the dumb shit Kirkbride wrote when he was no longer working on the game”
Lets goooo put that fudgemuppet in my ears boys
Hey guys, Love the pod!! Any word on when you’re going to do the 36 lessons of Vivec? Been waiting on that since ep one 😂🤣
Well, let's see, just a small swath the 3rd Empire alone is full of strife. Not even any of the Dominion's have had THIS much Instability, tbh...
3E 317 to 3E 339: Empress Morihatha took over. The Empire's reach beyond Cyrodiil had started to disintegrate, open revolutions and civil wars had raged in the provinces since the days of Cephorus Septim II (3E 247). Morihatha slowly dealt with the uprisings. While successful her slow pace annoyed the Elder Council, resulting in her assassination in 3E 339, supposedly at the call of an Argonian councilor who considered her pace too slow for troubled Black Marsh.
3E 339 to 3E 368: Pelagius Septim VII continued where his predecessor left off, slowly taking back the revolutionary regions of the Empire. While not as successful as his predecessor, a result of Pelagius placing an Imperial presence on kingdoms which had long been on their own, Pelagius brought about stability which had not been seen since the days of Uriel Septim I (3E 48 to 3E 64).
3E 389 to 3E 399: Under the rule of Uriel Septim VII, Jagar Tharn takes control of the Empire, puting a halt to the Imperial reconquests that Uriel had enacted before being trapped. The Imperial Simulacrum saw strife and war aplenty. The Imperial Battlespire, testing ground for the Shadow Legion, was taken over by Daedra before its destruction, Skyrim invaded High Rock and Hammerfell during the War of Bend'r Mahk, Black Marsh and Morrowind were involved in a war known as the Arnesian War which saw Morrowind take over parts of northern Black Marsh. When King Helseth of Morrowind later outlawed slavery at the wishes of the Empire he too faced a bloody Civil war when House Indoril was involved in a House War with the Hlaalu and Dres.
Wasn't the Dominion expelled from Hammerfell?
Didn't Valenwood have massive death due to a Thalmor coup?
@@badluck5647
Meh, considering the state the Dominion left Southern Hammerfell in, and the fact that the 2 were in a Stalemate despite you Redguards having Homefield advantage says a lot about the skills of my colleagues.
Hell, Southern Hammerfell was decimated as we left as well, and it was a struggle on BOTH sides, not just one... we left but we Sacked the hell out of your lands and left it more of a wasteland than it already was, so... enjoy your "victory" while it lasts, insolent fool 😤
Also, don't forget that it was an internal Valenwood struggle as well as pirate issues that the Altmer came in to stop, and the Thalmor DO have allies in Valenwood, so some Bosmer did Rebel, some allied willingly so, the Thalmor coup to put their own ally in charge, so, makes sense. Not to mention, that's nothing compared to the atrocities of the Empire. The list I gave is merely a PORTION of it all 😅
@@thalmoragent9344 Your description of the Dominion hardly sounds stable.
@@badluck5647 I believe that was his point 😊
TES lore is insanely deep, I wonder how it would stand up to LOTR and other such universes?
If potema was still alive, ironically she would be rightful heir of the empire
I don't think an undead counts
Which could be quite terrifying!
Return of the the kings
Great lore video! Gotta love some imperial discussion
I fucking love this channel.
Conspiracy thoery: Reman Cyrodil was actually a Daedra and King Hrol was a daedric worshipper that forced the Empire to worship this creature. His battle against the Akaviri invasion was actually bewitching the armies to his command.
Drew looking extra spicy and khajiit-like these days
That theory Michael said of the current Emperor being the Dragonborns son, would be a great thing to see & more of the Dragonborn's children using the Thuum would make the Imperial Empire a powerhouse not even the Aldemeri Dominion can destroy. I would also love to see Serana as well if she's in the ES6.
Let’s goooo new podcast
Here is my theory to the septim dynasty i think the last dragonborn is also the last descendent of the septim dynasty
What if the last Dragonborn was an Argonian?
@@badluck5647 Martin has some explaining to do? maybe he used sanguine's rose on an argonian the guy must have read the lusty argonian maid and decided to become like crassius curo..
That is similar to the thought I also had. Great minds think alike, yes?
@@Mary_Beth_Reimer yes I wonder what the implications of this is and how does it affect tes6??
Dark elf emperors interest me, about to make a Cassynder build ….. wait … Fudgemuppet make a Cassynder build
We NEED an episode on Talos’ ascension to godhood, with all the good shit, I’m talking Tiber Septim/Ysmir Wulfhart/Zurin Arctus Venn diagram, Numidium, etc.
less of a TES theory and more of a fun fact, at the beginning intro of skyrim the prisoner that comes before you lies face down on the block, your character lies on their side and looks towards the tower from the side or sideways sound familler maybe this is a small reference to the esoteric idea of looking upon the wheel or tower sideways and realizing the truth of the reality and achieving khim!
Podcast idea: Ranking of Skyrim builds
I had played Oblivion one time, and before I even played the main quest, I had became the Grand champion of the arena, the listener of the dark brotherhood, the arch-mage of the mages guild, the leader of the thieves guild, and the leader of the fighters guild. Then I started the main quest, and became a knight brother of the blades.
Drew be looking like every Tintin character merged.
Unrelated, but I'm not sure if we'll get a satisfying conclusion to the Dominion plotline. At worst, it'll just be background lore that resolved itself. As for plot in the next game, it will likely involve another third party that is doing bad stuff, which would take a lot of the focus. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
also unrelated, but wow I hadn't seen a MSPA pfp in a long time
@@BaalFridge it's something a friend made and I just never changed it. Partly cause of lazy and cus of memories. But yeah, not many of em around.
One of Camel's comments in your iceberg videos got me thinking.
He said something about all the bastard children Uriel Septim had, which made me wonder about either bastard children from earlier Septims, or possibly one the last Uriel doesn't know about.
Say there was a daughter he never knew about because her Nordic mother fled to Skyrim to keep him from knowing about her. She's raised in Skyrim having a Nordic stepfather, probably marries a Nordic man in the future, & her children are raised in the Nordic culture with their values.
Then, two hundred-some years later, we have the Last Dragonborn, who is, in reality, an actual descendant of the Septim Dynasty.
Not only does the Last Dragonborn have dragon blood, but we are also blessed with the Thu'um.
It works for me at least, because I usually play a Nord, in all Elder Scrolls games. That's a real world mythology I find fascinating. This wouldn't apply to other races quite as well. 😕 Maybe someone else can reason through that theory for a different race.
I love lore
How come Drew isn't in the About Me for the channel? Is he not Fudgemuppet too?
You probably already know this, but he left this channel and now posts on his own channel called Drewmora. It's a pretty good channel.
Maybe the Meade family is a cousin family too. Think of house of tutor after war of roses
Jagar was sus.
I think the reason katariah was able to be empress without doing the dragonfire stuff is because those only go out when the emperor DIES and since Pelagius was declared unfit rather than killed the dragon fires would still be lit as they were at his coronation until his death in his cell, giving her the ability to bypass the dragonblood requirement
Just curious if you guys like the souls borne games seriously or how familiar you guys are with them
Tin foil conspiracy:
Cuhlecain was jealous of how much the soldiers loved Tiber and became paranoid that Tiber would try and usurp him. So Cuhlecain slits Tiber’s throat from behind in an attempt to kill him but also take away his thu’um should the attempt fail. It does fail, and Tiber kills the soon to be emperor in self defense. Tiber makes up the story of an assassin to avoid imprisonment or execution for killing Cuhlecain. But also to preserve the legacy of his commander and friend who lost himself in paranoia. Tiber becomes the reluctant leader. A soldier who never wanted to rule so did what he did best as emperor; fight and win wars. Thus he went about conquering and uniting all of Tamriel.
I could see that, but wouldn't Tiber's rise to power be more interesting if he plotted and schemed his way to power instead just stumbled into it due to a jealous superior?
I feel an elder scrolls podcast about the elder scrolls would be cool
Nice one