Drew sounds like he'd make a good ASMR UA-camr, Scott sounds like a researcher in a library or research institute, and Michael sounds like what I think an Australian sounds in my head.
To add to Scott’s point, the journals of Roman generals in Northern Africa, including that of Julius Caesar, describing the shore areas of Northern Africa as “a jungle”. Now that biome has undergone immense climate change and desertification over the last two thousands, but it was never what we would currently refer to as “a jungle”. Not only are narrators unrealizable, but words change meaning sometimes within one generation.
I'm a end game ESO player and a elder scrolls lore fan and i agree with you guys, and they have added very good lore like, clockwork city, elsweyr chapter, fargravn, etc. But most of the lore is really shallow, i honestly see it as a good MMO with a elder scrolls flavor, not a true elder scrolls game.
Yes, that's exactly it. Most of the lore is alright, some of it is great, but you've really gotta suspend disbelief for rest. I disregard Crown Store lore almost entirely, and I've gotta severely alter the Alliances in order for it to fit into my headcanon. Also, Daedric whoopie cushions are dumb. (Well, coulda been fun if it was like, Sanguine or Sheogorath. But Molag Bal? C'mon.)
As I try to plow my way through a dungeon in ESO I find myself listening to this vidcast and agreeing. I feel like in ESO I am dungeon crawling where as in the Elder Scrolls I am adventuring. Too many fantastic things happen to too many people and the second I see another player my immersion takes a dip. It's a good MMO and I enjoy my time with it but it is not a good Elder Scrolls game.
Yeah, to be honest it just doesn’t respect the lore enough. It feels like Zenimax Online is just the rich kid who’s daddy bought him a new toy to play with (ESO), and who has no respect for the actual lore. We’ll see how long it stays canon.
You guys should play an Elder Scrolls themed D&D campaign. You guys know your lore, have a good friend dynamic, and it can help you think of theories and potential additions to the series. I just think that would be entertaining. Love your content guys!
@@charlottegerken4477 i remember when those were coming out and how i was super invested as i watched alot of both them and zaric and being very disappointed not seeing its conclusion
On the emotional side of Skyrim, I agree when it comes to properly displaying the negative effects of the Civil War.. However there are tons of little touches that are super vague, but leave you to fill in the rest in your mind. Ulfics speech, Sophie selling flowers etc.
There's a part of me that wouldn't mind in the slightest if they released a spin-off game dedicated to fleshing out the civil war and showing a more detailed portrayal of the conflict and the consequences of the war. Skyrim does an okay job at conveying the effect of things, but overall seeing more of the direct damage through world encounters or something similar would have been nice. ...I want to say a mass grave site or two would be harrowing to come across, but I also fear what would happen with that many bodies stacked together in the creation engine lol
@@KonoGufo Yeah, mods can somewhat help.. I use • Civil War Refugees (adds camps and tents outside of towns with people who have lost homes etc) • Immersive Patrols (see the units patrolling and fighting a lot more) • Civil War Checkpoints (adds checkpoints to key locations) • Guarded points of interest (adds guards along some parts of the road at small Fortified locations) • Civil War Battlefields (adds previous Battlefields with dead soldiers on both sides, some using Siege weapons, some soldiers burnt to a crisp, some on Bridges, some even in the seas with boats filled with dead bodies. • Amber Guard - a destroyed village This helps a lot..
@@jamiemckell34 Funny given how much the two series are compared lol. Thank you for the modlist though! Hopefully people get good use out of it. I've used a few civil war mods myself that I can attest to the quality of, but they're more basic. • Open Civil War: lets sides take holds back and forth from each other, gives you an optional way to play it like a board game, and lets you make military decisions to start missions whenever and in whatever order you want. • Warzones: requires some caution, tooling, and possibly some patches, but makes the conflict feel more active and present by placing skirmishes between Imps and Stormcloaks, Thalmor, Guards and Bandits, etc. • Civil War Aftermath: allows the player to kill camp commanders and burn them to the ground, as well as adding scenes where enemies of whichever faction have been hung to serve as an example.
i have this theory where the ancient nord’s shouts were a primitive form of tonal architecture en that’s why all the ancient nord tombs are inside mountains and the tunnels are all shout shaped
I think most magic in TES is some form of tonal architecture. Thu'um, Kiai, SwordSinging, Bosmer Spinners, just normal spell casting. It's all sound based. Dwemer Tonal Architecture is like Quantum Mechanics, the most fundamental field that all others are derived from.
After that one story of how a dwemer played 3 notes and made a void appear, you could totally see that. I personally think the Magicks is the users enforcing their will through apporiate spells or tools to change the world arouns them. So it makes sense your frail body if boosted with Magicka boosting gear can summon a Storm Golem cuz that what it been designed TO do, it not like where you build your golem friends in the shivering isles
The thing that could make custom enchanting and spells work is to have it skill based. Like if you want to make a custom destruction spell, you gotta have a high destruct level to not have it blow up in your face.
Ice cold, freezing sub zero take: Thalmor are quite literally the perfect antagonists for a elder scrolls sequel because they merge the political threat and the existential threat.
@@Subject_Keter Yeah, I often play a high elf and I still murder those creeps wherever I find them. Nazi death cultist idiots, now canonically wrong in their conpletely insane belief that destroying reality will make them gods.
They're not perfect antagonists. They are just another villainous faction in fiction that are written specifically to be a repeat of the overdone trope of "Oh look They're the Nazis". Try finding a modern villainous faction that isn't an exact carbon copy of the same villains with the same fundemental ideas give or take, it's surprisingly difficult. Fallouts got the Enclave, Elder scrolls has the Thalmor etc. At least fallout gave you the option to join the Legion, but somehow I dont think Bethesda are going to let their players join the Thalmor in the next game.
@@RedemptionDenied666 They're not Nazi's, their motivation isn't just "high elves are better and thus should rule everyone else" their motivation is "reality is bad and should be unmade completely"
@@drachenjungenichts950 yes and it’s been many years since the last real instalment and it will still be a couple years before the next. I mean dude it’s been like a decade
@@drachenjungenichts950 please reread my initial comment. “Keeping the FANDOM alive”. Because it’s been so long since the last game. It’s nice for fans to have a place to congregate and listen to others like us nerd out about the amazing lore of TES.
Paarthurnax openly admits during the main quest line that he struggles daily against his own nature. A nature that will undoubtedly over rule him, when he seeks to enforce this tyranny on the other dragons. Something that he says to the dragonborn when they come back from skuldalfin. And Odaviing doubles down on it saying, "But I doubt many will wish to exchange Alduin's lordship for the tyranny of Paarthurnax's Way of the Voice."
To be fair, Odaviing says "tyranny" because to him, Paarthrunax's teachings goes against dragon's inborn will to conquer and control. "We [dragons] were made to dominate; the will to power is in our power. You feel this in yourself [the Dragonborn], do you not?" It's like a rebel teen saying that rules are tyrannical; the reason why Paar survived so long is because he is able to resist his draconic instincts. The Greybeards saw that that he is truly good and wise beyond mortals, so they protected him.
I have one: What's wrong with Morrowind's combat aren't the mechanics themselves it's the sound design and combat messages. If instead of a "whoosh" there was just a much quieter than normal "thud" and "your attack missed" was changed to "glancing blow", it would immediately be 10x better.
There's this Skyrim mod called Strike Obstruction system that makes timed blocking extremely important and it has rather over the top effects like sparks and a loud CLANG play every time a block is performed at the right moment, followed by a slight knockback and a stagger, if you can make the feedback not only clear as day but also very satisfying to hear you'd hear zero complains from people imo.
@@gabrielinostroza4989 The mod True Armor lets you give different armors a percent chance to fully deflect different types of damage and that also plays a CLANG. That's what I was kind of basing this criticism. I literally downloaded a mod that brought chance to hit back but because of the sound design and the fact It's based on armor instead of character stats it's actually an improvement over vanilla armor rating imo (which I actually keep on top of it so perks still work).
@@NamelessKing1597 I know of that one as well, mods show that Skyrim has the basis for a combat system that isn't just wild flailing and damage sponges, it just needs a "game within the game". Morrowinds' missing made it so your combat ability hinged on stats so your main concern was raising those stats, and the game was an RPG in the purest sense that what you could do depended on the character build more than your own skills as a player. While i don't think Skyrim should go back to that entirely, systems like strike obstruction and true armor make me feel like skill, level and difficulty could be conveyed that way instead of making difficult enemies hurt more and have more health, things like stronger enemies swinging weapons faster so they're harder to time blocks for, they'd start dodging and bashing and truly feel more skilled than level 1 enemies, and that would be something you would have to either bridge the gap in level with your own skill or go grind.
Having been playing ESO a lot over the past 6 months, I do think it's an excellent game for the most part. However I can understand that as an Elder Scrolls game it's not the same as with the single player games and I agree with the fact that a lot of the problems I have with it as a TES game is that it's an MMO
The game would be a 100% better if one could turn off the multi-player part. It is hard to get immersed in a local when there are two skeletons tea bagging a dead boss.
Possible answer to Enchantment: Have quests reward weapons with unique effects you can disenchant to make better but requires high skill for better results.
Especially id the Enchantment is like masterclass one like "Burning Soultrap" but better and requires a special altar + skill to condense it down Or a Daedric scholar who can boost Artifacts to "Legendary" stats or convert into a 80% effect enchantment
I personally think that Enchantment should be of the "Easy to Learn, Hard to Master" variety. Sure, you can casually enchant, but the weapons you will get will be outclassed by findable ones. However, if you truly go down the path of the enchanter, you will be able to perform enchantments worth of legend, maybe with rare catalysts or so included.
BIG BRAIN TIME: THE EBONHEART PACT: The EP makes perfect sense if you actually think about about it for 19 seconds. Unlike the DC & AD which is comprise of the nations & therefore races of High Rock, Hammerfell, Orsinum, Valenwood, Eslweyr & Summerset. Instead the EP is NOT comprise of the nations of Skyrim, Morrowind & Blackmarsh. It is comprise of the Holds of Windhelm & Riften. Because the rest of the Nords & Skyrim as a whole is currently contested ground. Whether that be Solitude & it’s High King, Reachman in Falkreath & Markarth or the rest being independent with leanings to one of the other major players. Morrowind, only the houses of Redoran, Hlaalu & Dres are active members both Indoril & Telvanni rejected the pact entirely. With Dres still having Khajit slaves. And Black Marsh itself isn’t a member at all. Only SOME Tribes within northern Black Marsh have joined out of mutually beneficial economic & cultural purposes. Mainly it allowed the Argonian people to free nearly ALL argonains currently enslaved within Morrowind to be freed & return home. Which is something the Hist would want. And increase trade for said tribes. Unlike the Queen of the AD & the King of DC Jorunn has extremely little authority within the Pact. With the Argonians loyal to the Hist & Dunmer to the Temple & Tribunal & the ruling Houses therin. Jorunn is the defacto military commander & little else. And all of them still maintain their own tribunal & house armies. The EP in terms of military is more of joint operation to strengthen each other to their benefit. Jorunn with the sack of Windhelm was at the total mercy of the Reachmen & High King of Solitude. The Argonians get thousands of their people freed & returned & some tribes get to make fat stacks from Hlaalu & bolster trade routes. Redoran gets a massive relief since they won’t be doing all the heavy lifting being the only house that actually protects Morrowind & Hlaalu makes fat stakes all around. Also Also, EP is advancing in Cyrodill to reject & prevent Imperial influence & stop Mannimarco. Not to claim the Throne & conquer like the other two. This has been my TED talk thank you.
Considering how the EP basically doesn't want to see the Empire being a thing again and how they're for a Tamriel that's more of a bunch of independent kingdoms/nations, your "TED talk" actually does raise some good points.
Oblivion did have a specific art style they were going for. If I remember correctly, there was an interview where someone on the art team said that they were going for a classical painting kind of style.
I get that feel! It's why I love the design of the painted world so much. Walking through the Imperial Reserve at sunrise or the Jerall mountains at sunset sometimes feel like you're immersed in a painting mixed with an LSD world...
Possibly a lukewarm take: An Elder Scrolls without a main story would be fun. Because even without Alduin, you save the world at minimum three times during Skyrim. You don't need one central conflict for every character to face. You can make the Faction quests be Central conflicts for that character type.
I wouldnt mind a Main Quest once you proven yourself somehow: to any of the guilds, to the cities or a mage tracks you down after clearing out X Duegons. I always hate having to "Bulk" up cuz the first dragon fight comes so early and in Oblivion it like "they ruined a city and you want ME to go in there?... give me plate armor? *you get leather or shitty city guard"
Honestly agree. The main quest has never been the strong suit in elder scrolls just feels like something they tacked on to make it feel more “familiar” to newcomers. Guilds is where the fun begins especially for role playing
The only cool thing about Skyrim's main quest was getting to go to Sovngarde. That is literally the only reason I ever do it (outside of what is forced on you in the various guild quests).
The main quest thing is frustrating to me. I never do the main quest and I'm OK with it existing, but I hate how it's extremely in your face in oblivion and the random dragons in skyrim can be frustrating.
My biggest gripe is having to do the Main Quest to get the rewards like Dragonbane and Rend, Whirlwind Sprint and that Final Dragon Priest mask. Especially Dragonbane as that sword pretty much makes Dragons more fair. I dont mind the Dawnguars or Dragonborn Quest despite them having more powerful gear behind them cuz you are most likely prepared to duke it out
Hot take: ES games would be better with pre-rendered cutscenes. Imagine what the siege of Windhelm or Solitude could look like. Or when you go to Sovngarde to kill Alduin could look like. Although I understand the reason why they’re not in the games
How to fix the game breaking crafting loops: place hard caps on how much a crafting skill can be improved. How to keep enchanting viable while also having unique items: make the unique items actually unique. (We use spellbreaker because it has an awesome unique feature, even though you can make better shields) Spell crafting vs Hand-Crafted Spells: just make a bunch of Hand-Crafted spells to fill the different niches and make them feel unique.
The Skyrim magic system is under rated when compared to Morrowind and oblivion. It does have less spell variety but a lot of the spell variety we got in oblivion and morrowind were spells that only applied in niche situations that you would hardly ever use. Like spell absorb 15pts or resist magic 20pts for 20 seconds, or having 4 different restore stamina spells with different magnitudes. You would only ever learn a spell like that so you could enchant your gear with it for an actual useful passive effect. Having things like that relegated to perks gives you the useful abilities and also gives your character the feeling of becoming more attuned/powerful in that magic school. Like I’m so good at restoration my healing spells also restore my stamina, I’m so good at alteration I passively resist magic, my conjuration summons are more powerful and are bounded longer, my destruction spells now stagger enemies etc. Now I would like things like touch spells, mark/recall, spell reflect etc. back but I would like them applied more in the Skyrim system as opposed to the morrowind and oblivion systems.
The magika compromise is to do what Scott says, add in a ton of handcrafted spells, but then include a system of spellweaving. Using a Tome or a desk, be able to set up a 1-4 spell combo of similar cast types(channel, instant, etc), so you could create a full bound armoury, or send a fireball along side a paralysis spell. I think this could also alleviate all the damn pause switching of spells, part of the annoyance of being a mage in skyrim is only having 2 spells, and the two quick selects before having to use the favorites menu for pause and play, with controller at least.
On argonian boobs outside of blackmarsh they could be used as a way to transfer the hist connection to their children after hatching but inside black marsh there would be no use for them so they wouldn't have them because there's plenty of examples of the hist changing them to suit their needs
The blades say that parthunax is worse but if he wanted too conquer the world he would have, he's had thousands of years too do it and he's just been vibing on a mountain. I see him as having a larger perspective, and he just pitties Alduin for still wanting to cling too that old power. It's also why he's one of my favorite characters in elder scrolls.
I think you're both right about spellmaking, it does have it's place, but can't be a replacement for the whole magic system. A good compromise in my opinion would be a quest explaining that the mark of a great mage is crafting his own signature spell, so as a reward you would be granted this ability to craft your own signature spell, but just one. You could change it at a cost, but could only 'carry' one at a time. So it would be something unique to your character, more like a Power instead of a simple spell.
Just off the top of my head, oblivion had great emotions, with the escorting the emperor in the beginning, the orc in the arena when he asks you to kill him, Martin at the end of the game, lucien in the brotherhood, just off the top of my head and I haven't played in in like 8 years
What it really kind of sounds like you're talking about when it comes to the Nordic pantheon being imperialized seems more like the way the Romans handled things when they invaded an area and took over. When the Romans expanded into new areas and conquered places with different religious ideals they incorporated that regions religion into their own. Such is the wonder of a polytheistic religion, all of the gods in the Roman pantheon would become associated with a specific god from that regions pantheon. Like with the Greek pantheon, the Roman Jove/Jupiter (ruler of the gods) became associated with Zeus (ruler of the gods). The same thing happened in Egypt both when the Greeks conquered Egypt under Alexander the Great and later on when the Romans did the same. Zeus and Jove became associated with Amun-Re because he was the ruler of the gods. Thus and such. This technique of associating the gods with each other and blending them together made it very easy for Roman society to incorporate and assimilate many different regions and was a part of how their empire grew as far and as fast as it did. Like you guys were saying, this very same thing occurs later on in history. Christianity adopted a similar feature into its religious make up. If it hadn't it wouldn't be nearly the dominant world religion it is today. In their function though, the gods of those various pantheons subsumed by Christianity became saints and angels instead of becoming other versions of that pantheon's gods. There's a reason you don't hear much about Celtic religion and druidism in the same way you hear about the Norse, Greek, and Egyptian. In part that's because a lot of their stuff wasn't written down, but it's mainly due to the fact that many of the stories of saints you read about from the European middle ages and kingdoms started out as the stories of the gods the Celts worshiped. Gods above this comment turned out much longer than I expected it to... TL;DR it's a fuck of a lot easier to conquer a new place if you incorporate their religion into yours than it is to try and do it the other way around. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Hot take- Nords and Redguards are the same. Both are proud warrior- cultures with a distrust of magic. Both have a history of eradicating an elven folk. None of them are native to Tamriel, but some mystical, other continent that for some reason became un-livable. Both live in extreme climates. Nords have the Shout, Redguards have swordsingers- both relating to using ones voice to impact the physical world. A magical artifact is closely related to their story of settling their respective lands (Eye of Magnus and Volundrung).
A good art direction is different than an art style. Skyrim was going for a realistic look for the time, but 10 years later even tho it doesn’t look realistic anymore the game still looks nice because it has a good art direction.
@@ViViVex Scott only knows one Telvanni Wizard, Divayth Fyr. And his favourite race is the Dunmer, that's my point, there are some areas where Fudgemuppet can improve.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Scott’s had many in-depth videos on dunmeri politics and lore. So you’re either misinformed or making a judgement with lack of evidence, which is kind of lazy
@@ViViVex I have watched all Fudgemuppet podcasts, everytime they talked about the Dunmer, Daedric princes or magic, Michael was the one who mentioned Malyn Varen, Nelecar and Therana the other Telvanni Archmagister from both eso and morrowind. And none of them even knew Turala, former lover of the Duke of Mournhold, Turala summoned Mehrunes Dagon who battled Almalexia and Sotha Sil in year 2920 first era.
I agree with spellmaking hot take. While you can do something cool like "on touch drain longswords and heavy armor and summon full set of armor and summon long sword" to do some cool drain mage who makes opponent useless, but everyone just makes something like "cast pain 1000pts for 1 sec" that kills off people outright and other spells need not apply.
It subverts typical dragon breath. The Dov don't literally breathe fire, they are WILLING fire into existence. With the Th'um, you can changing reality to your will. And who's a better creator than the children of Akatosh himself? There's a reason why the Way of the Voice exists.
I think the take regarding the Elder Scrolls being useless is not exactly correct. When you have something with Godlike creation capabilities you cannot overuse them because it destroys the mythos behind it. The scrolls have the power to rewrite reality. We just forget them because it basically only happens one time in every game. The Gray Fox questline is probably one of my favorite uses of an Elder Scroll. This incredible thief is now cursed and when he puts on the mask of the fox his normal persona is written out of existence. So when he takes off the mask and walks around people act like he's Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life" He used an Elder Scroll to rewrite himself back into existence and be with the woman he loves. That is powerful writing and shows the power of the scrolls. Yes, the whole point behind prophecy is to defy destiny or to make it twist in a way that favors the protagonist/antagonist's needs. There is a reason the scrolls are revered to me as they represent a potential future and past and they along with my character are what cause the dragon breaks. We are the Elder Scrolls. In Tamriel the players are destiny.
People who complain about the "math" in games like (early) ES games need to actually try them. Seriously. We're all made of the same stuff. You might just find yourself spending seven hours building your character's biographical *and* numerical basis and not regretting five seconds of it. Even if you don't, that's where you get a game world this good from... logic, attention to detail, and cohesive building. There's a reason why the streamlining and simplification of the game accompanies inconsistencies and general reduced quality in the lore and the writing. There are loads of games and game worlds out there which lack this level of attention to detail; leave those of us who enjoy something a little more involved our handful of holdouts. Not everything needs to be dumbed down.
I understand the appeal of that and enjoy it myself but at the end of the day Elder Scrolls is massive and it’s majority fan base wants something more accessible and surface level. Great games are accessible and don’t require all that numbers stuff just to start but offer depth in other areas for players that look for it
Easiest way to add spell crafting is to cap the max damage based on total Magicka and spell skill level, pick an element, pick a range (touch, range up to x feet, aoe up to x feet, innate damage or dot), these spells could easily be lower than your master level spells you're a master spell caster not a master spell crafter it takes waaayyy longer to craft a new spell than to cast one.. although to that effect could just allow spell versatility for each spell.. like each spell can be used as touch range or aoe this would really only apply to on target spells so not cloaks or defensive spells although I will say a ward bubble would be cool.
Possibly Hot Take: The Thalmor are the most interesting thing to happen to the high elves, period. It turns the exaggerated, snooty caricatures of classic elves into an interesting (if 1 dimensional) interpretation of the "Elves are superior" trope. They should've been a joinable faction. While I'm at it, more racial distinctions in the game would only be a good thing, even if it restricts access to certain quests or even areas. The Khajiit being unable to enter the city should be extended to the player until you prove yourself to be trustworthy or sneak your way in. High Elves, and maybe even ALL elves, should be restricted from joining the Stormcloaks. Unfamiliar Bretons in Markarth should be viewed with scrutiny and suspicion (since bretons and reachmen are basically the same race). And if there are elven factions in the next game, maybe it should be very hard, or damn near impossible, for you to join if you aren't an elf.
Agree on everything except elves joining Stormcloaks, there's no real reason why that'd be the case. In real history, African-Americans and Native Americans joined the Confederacy against the Union, as well as Indians, Africans, and other joining the Axis powers, both for the sake of trying to shirk centralized, foreign powers from having authority over them (Native Americans for instance were repeatedly screwed by the Union both before and after the Civil War, while India and Germany had a common enemy in Britain). While intuitively, these alliances might seem odd, they actually make plenty of sense, just as there might be cases where it would make sense for Elves or Cyrodiilics to join the Stormcloaks against the authoritarian state that is the Empire
Thalmor are literally just that snooty exaggerated caricature trope turned up to 11 lmao, their lore and rise to power is interesting as an antagonist but they're incredibly one dimensional beyond that and very uninteresting in execution.
New episode of "5 things we want in Elder Scrolls 6" or else I will tell Bethesda to make every playable race other than Imperials an in app purchase, each costs around five quid.
I know I've missed some podcasts so maybe they already did this but id love to see a podcast where they talk about some of their favorite mods. Obviously mods are a vast and open ended topic but id love to hear what are some of the mods that really stand out for them as something that adds a lot of value to playing skyrim. it doesn't just have to be grand mods that completely change the game either it would be just as interesting to hear about some mods that do just a little but still enhance the game
I think custom spells could work in TES: VI if it's essentially just macros like Michael described. If you always cast invisibility and aura whisper before entering an engagement zone, there's no harm in combining those effects into a single action. It would actually improve the experience for console users because we won't have to pause the game to scroll through menus AS MUCH (key words).
Cool video. Some things I would like to have added to ES6 revolve around calendars. The world would seem more alive if different towns and cities had festivals or holidays that would be celebrated. IE your character shows up to Riften and they are having some kind of celebration based on the local church. Periodic Harvest festivals in villages, secretive deadric cults holding nighttime rituals in the deep forests and caves. A local Lord having a banquet giving you an opportunity to attend as a guest or thief. Weddings, traveling troupes, and circuses, playhouses, traveling Justicars judging people and giving sentences. All these things can give the world more life.
Not sure if these count as hot takes, but here are some of my opinions: 1. Bretons are an underrated race since they represent what could happen if men and mer tried to "get along" instead of constantly trying to conquer the other. That and I like the medieval Europe theme they seem to have going on. 2. Magnus is an underrated god. Helping Lorkharn/Shor build Mundus/Nirn but getting the hell out of dodge when he realized their magic was being drained is pretty interesting. The fact he also left behind some relics like the Eye of Magnus, which may or may not be one of his actual eyes, adds to the mystery. 3. Since Kalpas are a thing, I wouldn't mind seeing another cycle for a reboot. 4. The Dark Brotherhood is overrated. Maybe it's just me, but being a hired assassin doesn't sound interesting. That and I'm still not sure how Sithis fits into the cosmology. I could try some more if anyone's interested.
Lmao I love that I decided to get back into the podcast after starting a new Morrowind playthrough yesterday. "Morrowind fans aren't playing it right now" I mean I'm sure that's true for most, but yeah, I go back to Morrowind all the time
Hot take (maybe): Malacath is the weakest daedra, he started as an Aedra who sacrificed his power. Could he have just gained back his power from being angry? If so, why didn’t any other Aedra get their power back?
Hot take: Since the Numidium is powered by the Mantella, which is a soul gem containing the soul of Wulfharth, who is a Shezzarine, whichis a mortal incarnation of Lorkhan, would that technically make the Numidium another form of Lorkhan? This would explain why it was first used to completely subjugate Alinor, and in CODA, the first thing it does is erase every Altmer from existence. In this sense, the Numidium is Lorkhan the way that Mechagodzilla is Ghidorah.
The debate about spell making gave me an idea that instead of making whole new spells, you can tweak current ones instead and add a feature or two to them. Or, you could make it to where you have to collect spell components or find tomes that allow you different options. That way, there is customized spells but a sense of balance and limits are planned.
My hot take is that Oblivion was the look of the Elder Scrolls. Strip away what the engine couldn't do, like make an actual face, and just look at the world. The use of vibrant color, the look of towns and structures, a fair amount of armor and weapons. I never had a problem with the high-fantasy vibe or the worn paper ui because I wanted to get lost in a fantasy world. I like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim for their own reasons but I always daydream about how Morrowind could have looked in Oblivion's art direction. Or how Falkreath might look as its foggy self but not completely desaturated. (I generally had a problem with vanilla Skyrim's fixation on desaturating it's color palate.)
Oblivion's art direction? You mean budget Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings? I would love to see morrowind with better technology or oblivion/skyrim with morrowinds art direction. Oblivion is colorful but everything is flat and looks the same. There isn't anything special, location wise, anywhere in vanilla oblivion. It isn't even high fantasy it is just generic medieval with a single tower and ringed city. I love Oblivion to death, played it more than any others. Hands down my favorite elder scrolls for many reasons, but I really think the total lack of original art direction is the biggest problem with the game. Other than the ridiculous lvl scaling and the gimping of magic.
@@Subject_Keter The orcs were given the land to build Orsinium, but the Reachmen were never granted their own homeland by the other races of men. The Orcs and the Reachmen deserve their own provinces within the Empire.
I agree are there any mods that I could use for my reachman playthrough that would allow me to ally with the reach in skyrim? Besides just madanach's? (I have the anniversary edition sadly)
@@badluck5647 If I was making a bid for emperor the first thing I'd do is offer them provincial status if they fight for me. Also while it doesnt have Provincial status a new Orsinium was built in the mountains between skyrim and Hammerfell
You get you damn reachland when they stop attackinf my breton ass! I remember the first time i ripped their mask off and it was a breton! Damn tribals are hyped up on Deathbell or something cuz i put their outfit on and they straight up attacked me. Those walking accidents get what they damn well deserve!
Role playing in Skyrim (or I guess any TES) can be hard imo, just depending on the type of character you want. I tried to make a character that was just some rando pilgrim or vagabond and trying to act like killing someone is a big deal when it's such a necessary part of the game is difficult. That said, keeping a journal in a spiral notebook of what happens each day does help a lot
Since the "Major" points are so locked down, i think the inbetween when you are exploring, talking to people and doing "minor" stuff is cool. Especially if you write down what you did and "novelization" it later to be more cooler i think where it shines. I remember doing Morthal Vampire quest and getting infected, just letting it fester despite how easy it to cure it was interesting watching yourself mutate into a Vampire and figuring out where you go from there. I could of cured it but i really enjoyed watching it just go and enjoy abit of the madness.
I hate how there is no evil faction that doesn't involve being sneaky. If you want to be an evil mage you have basically no options, other than I guess Volkihar. ffs you can't even do the civil war without being dragonborn.
@@dakotafawson1223 Because a literal dragon just destroyed Helgan and one of it's survivors, told Balgruuf that they said it heading towards his city. The city is closed, you have to bribe or tell the guards that you were at Helgan. People are rightfully worried and fearful. The Jarl cannot let this go unattended, the dragon is more important than a dime-a-dozen civil war.
Personally I would rather play daggerfall over any other. My hot take is that Nerevar never fought Dumac, instead they were having a diplomatic meeting when dagoth stormed in with wulfhart in demand of the heart then Almalexia betrayed his husband and a huge battle ensued that end up with Wulfhart killing Dumac, Nerevar killing Wulfhart, Almalexia killing Nerevar and finally Kagrenak triggering the Red Moment by using his tonal arquitecture on the heart
1000% disagree with custom spell making being bad or irrelevant. It doesn't diminish anything by adding it, but it does diminish the game by removing it.
Morrowind's Hit chance can be solved by holding down the mouse button before release yields a higher chance of hitting our foe. Just for anyone who dose not know. Also use the right weapon, Don't use a dagger if you picked longblade.
@@RedSpade37 No, no, i am not. the game dose not tell you to hold down the mouse button at all. Its something i found out years later. I'm just correcting a misconception about the game.
I super agree with the eso thing! Me and my wife LOVE it for the roleplay that can be done, we get immersed very easy, we just tend to ignore most of the people😂
TES as in the style of Mass Effect: all your decisions throughout the games influence conditions in the world in future games. But then, you get to the last installment, and it just boils down to what color explosions you get.
Having been a screen archer in the past for UESP articles of ESO, I entirely feel Drew's pain of having shots ruined by others running into the frame with their frost bears and flaming swords completely removing the purity-of-setting element for upwards of half an hour straight sometimes lol
I think most people who hate ESO are people who've never actually played it or researched anything about the game and what it has to offer, and how it balances being a sandbox roleplaying game and an MMO surprisingly well, catering to players of all types. But at the same time these guys bring up valid points in their opinions on it.
I feel like crafting requires more cost/effort to offset the result of letting players easily make better items/magic than what you can buy or find. Alternatively make skill/role progression tighter so you really have to choose between being a powerful warrior, wizard, craftsman, or scholar without being able to do all at once.
I've got one (potentially hot) take on the bit about the Imperialised Nordic pantheon cuz it's very close to my personal uni studies: For one, the comparison to the Christianisation of Scandinavia is kinda shakey from the get-go because between related politheisms you'd see a much more complicated mixing of the traditions that would always retain at least some trace of the old beliefs which is obviously completely different from the (nearly) complete replacement you see with an exclusive monotheism like Christianity. I suppose you *could* argue Thalmor pressure is the reason they're a bit more hardline about it, but that would be a stretch already and would still require some lore-tweaking to really make sense, so that's one reason you should see more of the old Nordic beliefs than just a handful of bandit voicelines and the Sovngarde episode at the end of the main quest. But even if you do accept that the Imperials would even want to put any greater effort into completely assimilating Nordic religion into the Imperial Cult, in a period of transition like that you would actually see more of the old tradition and not less because the people that do still believe in it would of course take not of and issue with the change and communicate that more or less openly. You do of course have that to some degree with the Stormcloaks, but they don't even talk that much about religion to begin with and when they do, it's only about Talos - can't recall a single line from a Stormcloak expressing disappointment that people seem to forget about the importance of Shor or something like that. Plus, you'd see a lot more people like Balgruuf who are sympathetic to that sentiment without necessarily following the political call to arms. So yeah, TL;DR: if you wanna argue with realism, it's actually really stupid the Nordic religion is all but completely Imperialised during the events of Skyrim
Christianity has taken on a significant amount of influence from local dieties. Its a known thing in history that when conquering, you're more likely to have less resistance when incorporating culture and letting localities you conquer keep some of their way of life.
Late to the party, but experimenting with magic is like job #1 for mages in the ES universe. Not being able to tinker with spells made Skyrim's magic system boring. Also they need to rework the level restriction on illusion spells or make enemy levels visible.
I always thought each had all possible realities written on them and the priests and dragon bloods were able to parse out bits and pieces allowing the bypassing or manipulation of aedric (alduin being sent to the future) and deadric (the alteration of nocturnes cowl) influences
Sometimes Michael is negative toward ideas it drives me crazy, but it’s actually really important to their dynamic as far as forcing themselves to prove a point well. Keep at it fellas
Skyrims dlc villians are the dumbest and full of plot holes, and half baked ideas. Dawnguard: make the sun go away, which kills everything, so vampires rule everything?....oh yeah and feel bad for all vampires because 2 of them don't try to kill you immediately.... Dragonborn: oh you killed alduin?, I could have done that, taken part in a dragon genocide that would give me literal god status, but the mass of tentacle porn convinced me this was a bad idea some how...... what was my endgame again?
What are you talking about? Only Harkon actual wants to blot out the sun. Because he's a fucking lunatic, crazed by his vampirism and powerlust. His own wife is like, "nah bro, vampires have lived in the shadows for literal centuries. Kill the sun and the entire world will come after us. Big pass." And Mirrak was saved by Mora when another dragon priest (Azkial, I think? The Jailor one) cornered him. After that, he was trapped in Mora's realm, seduced by the knowledge of the actual god of knowledge.
These boys know their audience, cause all the best videos to watch stone have good backgrounds for it. Most of the hot takes, deep lore, and videos that make you think deeply have similar backgrounds.
I love these podcasts, it's just such a good time and so mellow. It's like a group of friends just talking about a great game, I know a friend and I have conversations with Fallout like this
@@BaalFridge it's fantastic. My friend and I talk about merits of each fallout, how Fallout can improve and the settings. We also talk about Warhammer Fantasy, the best Warhammer and how it worked well.
I don’t know if it’s hot take or not but I thought of a theory today on Aedra and Daedra. Also don’t know if it’s crossed anyone else’s mind, but my theory is that the reason the aedra (ex: divines) don’t manifest towards mortals in the same way as the daedra (ex: princes) do/can is because men and mer alike have forgotten the possible darker side of the aedra. As in we don’t see the full entity therefore they can’t or won’t manifest themselves to mortals.
The fact that after wanting one for so many years I could finally have my own pet guar, was the best thing about ESO for me🤣. I played it a lot when it first came out (buggy as it was), but I didn't care for the MMO aspect. It got too expensive. I stopped playing before many of the expansions were released. Aesthetically speaking it was very cool, and I enjoyed playing it because even though it didn't feel like a real TES game it was still TES content and it was all we were getting.
Actual spicy take? Cryodiil was still largely a jungle in Oblivion in the classical sense. A jungle wasn't always a dense, largely unsettled, warm-climate forest. It was just a swath of untamed temperate land. A grassland could be a jungle for most of history (which is how we "in the mighty jungle the lion sleeps tonight" when lions don't get themselves into forests) and a swamp could be a jungle, and a moderately populated hardwood forest could be a jungle. Y'all are mad it wasn't a jungle, when reality was even sadder. It was a disappointment jungle, and that is worse than it not being a jungle at all.
Here's my spicy take: Warhammers and maces are the best and deserve better mechanics in the game than "blunt sword swing slower" The animations for using blunt weapons are atrocious, and it would be great if ES6 featured a mechanic where they bounce off of armor or dent it heavily
I would be nice if each weapon had a different type of Cripple and Power Attacks that did heavy dmg and reduce the foes combat effectiveness. Like Maces can shatter thr foes limbs, making them attack slower or straight up stunning them. Swords can open up cuts in the Armor you can rip off and if the chest is exposed do a excution move to thr heart
@@Subject_Keter or more unique kill cams too. I know mace has one where you just crush their skull, but my immersion was ruined by a kill cam where my character “stabbed” them through the chest with a mace…
@@Larissa-up7lu I keep decapitating people with a warhammer, I started using Nerveshatter because it looks sharp. I've never had the stabbing cam with a mace though. Are you on vanilla?
i have a memory of playing a game when i was 13 where i spent about an hour creating my character only to emerge from the opening scene and immediately got attacked by a rat that i couldnt hit for whatever reason. it was the only game i ever ragequit like that. im almost certain now that it was morrowind
"It's like roleplaying in the bedroom, you've gotta pretend there's another person there..."
Drew 😂
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For those who are wondering
This crew has some of the funniest shxt slipped in their podcasts bruh
"Pretend"
I’ve been watching these guys for 5 years and I still can’t tell their voices apart
Drew has the smooth voice.
Michael's voice is deeper than Scott's.
That's all I can offer.
It's alright. Phonagnosia happens to the best of us.
Drew has the buttery voice. Scott's has the most vocal fry, and Michael's is a bit stronger and less "fried" than Scott's.
Nothing more true has ever been stated before.
Drew sounds like he'd make a good ASMR UA-camr, Scott sounds like a researcher in a library or research institute, and Michael sounds like what I think an Australian sounds in my head.
To add to Scott’s point, the journals of Roman generals in Northern Africa, including that of Julius Caesar, describing the shore areas of Northern Africa as “a jungle”. Now that biome has undergone immense climate change and desertification over the last two thousands, but it was never what we would currently refer to as “a jungle”. Not only are narrators unrealizable, but words change meaning sometimes within one generation.
The virgin Michael: "I'm not gonna spoil it"
The chad Drew: "And how he's your son and all"
Only a chad could devote himself to the study of daedra👍.
It’s been out for long enough
Lmaoo
I'm a end game ESO player and a elder scrolls lore fan and i agree with you guys, and they have added very good lore like, clockwork city, elsweyr chapter, fargravn, etc. But most of the lore is really shallow, i honestly see it as a good MMO with a elder scrolls flavor, not a true elder scrolls game.
Big agree
Yes, that's exactly it.
Most of the lore is alright, some of it is great, but you've really gotta suspend disbelief for rest.
I disregard Crown Store lore almost entirely, and I've gotta severely alter the Alliances in order for it to fit into my headcanon.
Also, Daedric whoopie cushions are dumb.
(Well, coulda been fun if it was like, Sanguine or Sheogorath. But Molag Bal? C'mon.)
Isn’t that what eso is trying to accomplish?
As I try to plow my way through a dungeon in ESO I find myself listening to this vidcast and agreeing. I feel like in ESO I am dungeon crawling where as in the Elder Scrolls I am adventuring.
Too many fantastic things happen to too many people and the second I see another player my immersion takes a dip. It's a good MMO and I enjoy my time with it but it is not a good Elder Scrolls game.
Yeah, to be honest it just doesn’t respect the lore enough. It feels like Zenimax Online is just the rich kid who’s daddy bought him a new toy to play with (ESO), and who has no respect for the actual lore. We’ll see how long it stays canon.
You guys should play an Elder Scrolls themed D&D campaign. You guys know your lore, have a good friend dynamic, and it can help you think of theories and potential additions to the series. I just think that would be entertaining. Love your content guys!
They did once before
In the crack of the channel they played a D&D series with Zaric in Cyrodiil that took place before the Oblivion crisis, but after Morrowind.
They did it before, but it was never completed(the end was lost), would love to see them try it again!!
@@charlottegerken4477 i remember when those were coming out and how i was super invested as i watched alot of both them and zaric and being very disappointed not seeing its conclusion
They did, is was actually pretty good.
On the emotional side of Skyrim, I agree when it comes to properly displaying the negative effects of the Civil War..
However there are tons of little touches that are super vague, but leave you to fill in the rest in your mind. Ulfics speech, Sophie selling flowers etc.
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Windhelm is a sad city with many angry citizens.
There's a part of me that wouldn't mind in the slightest if they released a spin-off game dedicated to fleshing out the civil war and showing a more detailed portrayal of the conflict and the consequences of the war. Skyrim does an okay job at conveying the effect of things, but overall seeing more of the direct damage through world encounters or something similar would have been nice.
...I want to say a mass grave site or two would be harrowing to come across, but I also fear what would happen with that many bodies stacked together in the creation engine lol
@@KonoGufo Yeah, mods can somewhat help.. I use
• Civil War Refugees (adds camps and tents outside of towns with people who have lost homes etc)
• Immersive Patrols (see the units patrolling and fighting a lot more)
• Civil War Checkpoints (adds checkpoints to key locations)
• Guarded points of interest (adds guards along some parts of the road at small Fortified locations)
• Civil War Battlefields (adds previous Battlefields with dead soldiers on both sides, some using Siege weapons, some soldiers burnt to a crisp, some on Bridges, some even in the seas with boats filled with dead bodies.
• Amber Guard - a destroyed village
This helps a lot..
@@KonoGufo It sounds more like the Witcher setting
@@jamiemckell34 Funny given how much the two series are compared lol. Thank you for the modlist though! Hopefully people get good use out of it. I've used a few civil war mods myself that I can attest to the quality of, but they're more basic.
• Open Civil War: lets sides take holds back and forth from each other, gives you an optional way to play it like a board game, and lets you make military decisions to start missions whenever and in whatever order you want.
• Warzones: requires some caution, tooling, and possibly some patches, but makes the conflict feel more active and present by placing skirmishes between Imps and Stormcloaks, Thalmor, Guards and Bandits, etc.
• Civil War Aftermath: allows the player to kill camp commanders and burn them to the ground, as well as adding scenes where enemies of whichever faction have been hung to serve as an example.
The Adoring Fan was the only character in Oblivion that truly cared about the hero of Kvatch.
He is an aspect of Sheogorath, thus making him an aspect of the Hero of Kvatch.
naw Baurus is my boi
i have this theory where the ancient nord’s shouts were a primitive form of tonal architecture en that’s why all the ancient nord tombs are inside mountains and the tunnels are all shout shaped
I thought so too
I think most magic in TES is some form of tonal architecture. Thu'um, Kiai, SwordSinging, Bosmer Spinners, just normal spell casting. It's all sound based. Dwemer Tonal Architecture is like Quantum Mechanics, the most fundamental field that all others are derived from.
That's not really a theory. It's pretty well-established that the thuum and tonal architecture are very similar types of reality manipulation.
Wow! A good theory! Never considered it before.
After that one story of how a dwemer played 3 notes and made a void appear, you could totally see that.
I personally think the Magicks is the users enforcing their will through apporiate spells or tools to change the world arouns them. So it makes sense your frail body if boosted with Magicka boosting gear can summon a Storm Golem cuz that what it been designed TO do, it not like where you build your golem friends in the shivering isles
Drew: okay gang lets move on from custom spells
Michael: AND ONE MORE THING...!
Drew: 😅🔫
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"We're not loopin boys"
*proceeds to loop"
The thing that could make custom enchanting and spells work is to have it skill based. Like if you want to make a custom destruction spell, you gotta have a high destruct level to not have it blow up in your face.
Hot take: Eating Argonians and Khajit is not cannibalism, and I will not stop.
This sounds like a bosmer trying to explain their actions to a guard
This is the only way I could roleplay a cannibal
What is it if a Vampire drains the blood out of them cat and lizard folk?
Is it even cannibalism if a human eats an elf? They're genetically compatible to a degree but they are an actually different race.
nords too, they claim no kinship with the other "human races" as they are the children of the sky.
Ice cold, freezing sub zero take: Thalmor are quite literally the perfect antagonists for a elder scrolls sequel because they merge the political threat and the existential threat.
It fun to murder them even as High elfs player!
@@Subject_Keter Yeah, I often play a high elf and I still murder those creeps wherever I find them. Nazi death cultist idiots, now canonically wrong in their conpletely insane belief that destroying reality will make them gods.
@@notsae66 High Elf PC:Wait...
Are we the baddies?
They're not perfect antagonists. They are just another villainous faction in fiction that are written specifically to be a repeat of the overdone trope of "Oh look They're the Nazis". Try finding a modern villainous faction that isn't an exact carbon copy of the same villains with the same fundemental ideas give or take, it's surprisingly difficult. Fallouts got the Enclave, Elder scrolls has the Thalmor etc. At least fallout gave you the option to join the Legion, but somehow I dont think Bethesda are going to let their players join the Thalmor in the next game.
@@RedemptionDenied666 They're not Nazi's, their motivation isn't just "high elves are better and thus should rule everyone else" their motivation is "reality is bad and should be unmade completely"
Thanks for keeping this fandom alive. Mad respect guys! Can’t wait for your channel to boom whenever we get the next instalment of TES!
At this point I don’t even know if elder scrolls is going bro have a next installment
Keeping it alive? The next game is in active development.
@@drachenjungenichts950 yes and it’s been many years since the last real instalment and it will still be a couple years before the next. I mean dude it’s been like a decade
@@Niiiiith yet you know the next title is coming, its not dead in anyway.
@@drachenjungenichts950 please reread my initial comment. “Keeping the FANDOM alive”. Because it’s been so long since the last game. It’s nice for fans to have a place to congregate and listen to others like us nerd out about the amazing lore of TES.
Paarthurnax openly admits during the main quest line that he struggles daily against his own nature. A nature that will undoubtedly over rule him, when he seeks to enforce this tyranny on the other dragons. Something that he says to the dragonborn when they come back from skuldalfin. And Odaviing doubles down on it saying, "But I doubt many will wish to exchange Alduin's lordship for the tyranny of Paarthurnax's Way of the Voice."
To be fair, Odaviing says "tyranny" because to him, Paarthrunax's teachings goes against dragon's inborn will to conquer and control.
"We [dragons] were made to dominate; the will to power is in our power. You feel this in yourself [the Dragonborn], do you not?"
It's like a rebel teen saying that rules are tyrannical; the reason why Paar survived so long is because he is able to resist his draconic instincts. The Greybeards saw that that he is truly good and wise beyond mortals, so they protected him.
I feel like Stopping the moon's from crashing would be an interesting main quest line for an elsweyr game
So Majora's mask?
@@ShortStoryLuke sorta. Maybe less time travel and copyright infringement lol
Maybe some crazy Lorkhan/Lorkhaj cult decides to slam Masser and Secunda together, thinking it will "rebirth" their god?
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Does that mean we would travel to one or both of the moons at some point? Presumably near the end?
@@johnnygyro2295 taking loads of skooma to hallucinate and climb the beams of sugar, like the hist trip in Oblivion
Scott ; reading "ESO is the best elder scrolls yet" ...
I swear I thought Drew was going to be physically sick for a second 😂
I have one:
What's wrong with Morrowind's combat aren't the mechanics themselves it's the sound design and combat messages. If instead of a "whoosh" there was just a much quieter than normal "thud" and "your attack missed" was changed to "glancing blow", it would immediately be 10x better.
There's this Skyrim mod called Strike Obstruction system that makes timed blocking extremely important and it has rather over the top effects like sparks and a loud CLANG play every time a block is performed at the right moment, followed by a slight knockback and a stagger, if you can make the feedback not only clear as day but also very satisfying to hear you'd hear zero complains from people imo.
@@gabrielinostroza4989 The mod True Armor lets you give different armors a percent chance to fully deflect different types of damage and that also plays a CLANG. That's what I was kind of basing this criticism. I literally downloaded a mod that brought chance to hit back but because of the sound design and the fact It's based on armor instead of character stats it's actually an improvement over vanilla armor rating imo (which I actually keep on top of it so perks still work).
@@NamelessKing1597 I know of that one as well, mods show that Skyrim has the basis for a combat system that isn't just wild flailing and damage sponges, it just needs a "game within the game". Morrowinds' missing made it so your combat ability hinged on stats so your main concern was raising those stats, and the game was an RPG in the purest sense that what you could do depended on the character build more than your own skills as a player.
While i don't think Skyrim should go back to that entirely, systems like strike obstruction and true armor make me feel like skill, level and difficulty could be conveyed that way instead of making difficult enemies hurt more and have more health, things like stronger enemies swinging weapons faster so they're harder to time blocks for, they'd start dodging and bashing and truly feel more skilled than level 1 enemies, and that would be something you would have to either bridge the gap in level with your own skill or go grind.
Having been playing ESO a lot over the past 6 months, I do think it's an excellent game for the most part. However I can understand that as an Elder Scrolls game it's not the same as with the single player games and I agree with the fact that a lot of the problems I have with it as a TES game is that it's an MMO
The game would be a 100% better if one could turn off the multi-player part. It is hard to get immersed in a local when there are two skeletons tea bagging a dead boss.
You know your takes got that extra kick to it when you leave Scott saying 'I don't know man, I don't know'.
Possible answer to Enchantment: Have quests reward weapons with unique effects you can disenchant to make better but requires high skill for better results.
Especially id the Enchantment is like masterclass one like "Burning Soultrap" but better and requires a special altar + skill to condense it down
Or a Daedric scholar who can boost Artifacts to "Legendary" stats or convert into a 80% effect enchantment
I personally think that Enchantment should be of the "Easy to Learn, Hard to Master" variety.
Sure, you can casually enchant, but the weapons you will get will be outclassed by findable ones.
However, if you truly go down the path of the enchanter, you will be able to perform enchantments worth of legend, maybe with rare catalysts or so included.
BIG BRAIN TIME: THE EBONHEART PACT:
The EP makes perfect sense if you actually think about about it for 19 seconds. Unlike the DC & AD which is comprise of the nations & therefore races of High Rock, Hammerfell, Orsinum, Valenwood, Eslweyr & Summerset.
Instead the EP is NOT comprise of the nations of Skyrim, Morrowind & Blackmarsh. It is comprise of the Holds of Windhelm & Riften. Because the rest of the Nords & Skyrim as a whole is currently contested ground. Whether that be Solitude & it’s High King, Reachman in Falkreath & Markarth or the rest being independent with leanings to one of the other major players.
Morrowind, only the houses of Redoran, Hlaalu & Dres are active members both Indoril & Telvanni rejected the pact entirely. With Dres still having Khajit slaves.
And Black Marsh itself isn’t a member at all. Only SOME Tribes within northern Black Marsh have joined out of mutually beneficial economic & cultural purposes. Mainly it allowed the Argonian people to free nearly ALL argonains currently enslaved within Morrowind to be freed & return home. Which is something the Hist would want. And increase trade for said tribes.
Unlike the Queen of the AD & the King of DC Jorunn has extremely little authority within the Pact. With the Argonians loyal to the Hist & Dunmer to the Temple & Tribunal & the ruling Houses therin. Jorunn is the defacto military commander & little else. And all of them still maintain their own tribunal & house armies.
The EP in terms of military is more of joint operation to strengthen each other to their benefit. Jorunn with the sack of Windhelm was at the total mercy of the Reachmen & High King of Solitude. The Argonians get thousands of their people freed & returned & some tribes get to make fat stacks from Hlaalu & bolster trade routes. Redoran gets a massive relief since they won’t be doing all the heavy lifting being the only house that actually protects Morrowind & Hlaalu makes fat stakes all around.
Also Also, EP is advancing in Cyrodill to reject & prevent Imperial influence & stop Mannimarco. Not to claim the Throne & conquer like the other two.
This has been my TED talk thank you.
Your TES talk*
@@witoldendrju2458 Thank you.
The only thing hotter than your take is my burning hatred for the Ebonheart Pact, but you get a like anyway.
Considering how the EP basically doesn't want to see the Empire being a thing again and how they're for a Tamriel that's more of a bunch of independent kingdoms/nations, your "TED talk" actually does raise some good points.
@@CyberController- Thank you kind UA-cam stranger.
Oblivion did have a specific art style they were going for. If I remember correctly, there was an interview where someone on the art team said that they were going for a classical painting kind of style.
I get that feel! It's why I love the design of the painted world so much. Walking through the Imperial Reserve at sunrise or the Jerall mountains at sunset sometimes feel like you're immersed in a painting mixed with an LSD world...
Imagine if in a future Elder Scrolls game where the playable khajit is one of the quadrapedal breeds
let me play as a cat with a wizard hat cowards
Possibly a lukewarm take: An Elder Scrolls without a main story would be fun. Because even without Alduin, you save the world at minimum three times during Skyrim. You don't need one central conflict for every character to face. You can make the Faction quests be Central conflicts for that character type.
I wouldnt mind a Main Quest once you proven yourself somehow: to any of the guilds, to the cities or a mage tracks you down after clearing out X Duegons. I always hate having to "Bulk" up cuz the first dragon fight comes so early and in Oblivion it like "they ruined a city and you want ME to go in there?... give me plate armor? *you get leather or shitty city guard"
Honestly agree. The main quest has never been the strong suit in elder scrolls just feels like something they tacked on to make it feel more “familiar” to newcomers. Guilds is where the fun begins especially for role playing
The only cool thing about Skyrim's main quest was getting to go to Sovngarde. That is literally the only reason I ever do it (outside of what is forced on you in the various guild quests).
The main quest thing is frustrating to me. I never do the main quest and I'm OK with it existing, but I hate how it's extremely in your face in oblivion and the random dragons in skyrim can be frustrating.
My biggest gripe is having to do the Main Quest to get the rewards like Dragonbane and Rend, Whirlwind Sprint and that Final Dragon Priest mask. Especially Dragonbane as that sword pretty much makes Dragons more fair.
I dont mind the Dawnguars or Dragonborn Quest despite them having more powerful gear behind them cuz you are most likely prepared to duke it out
Hot take: ES games would be better with pre-rendered cutscenes. Imagine what the siege of Windhelm or Solitude could look like. Or when you go to Sovngarde to kill Alduin could look like. Although I understand the reason why they’re not in the games
How to fix the game breaking crafting loops: place hard caps on how much a crafting skill can be improved.
How to keep enchanting viable while also having unique items: make the unique items actually unique. (We use spellbreaker because it has an awesome unique feature, even though you can make better shields)
Spell crafting vs Hand-Crafted Spells: just make a bunch of Hand-Crafted spells to fill the different niches and make them feel unique.
I wouldn’t call the half-race thing “lazy” so much as a limitation of the medium.
The Skyrim magic system is under rated when compared to Morrowind and oblivion. It does have less spell variety but a lot of the spell variety we got in oblivion and morrowind were spells that only applied in niche situations that you would hardly ever use. Like spell absorb 15pts or resist magic 20pts for 20 seconds, or having 4 different restore stamina spells with different magnitudes. You would only ever learn a spell like that so you could enchant your gear with it for an actual useful passive effect.
Having things like that relegated to perks gives you the useful abilities and also gives your character the feeling of becoming more attuned/powerful in that magic school. Like I’m so good at restoration my healing spells also restore my stamina, I’m so good at alteration I passively resist magic, my conjuration summons are more powerful and are bounded longer, my destruction spells now stagger enemies etc.
Now I would like things like touch spells, mark/recall, spell reflect etc. back but I would like them applied more in the Skyrim system as opposed to the morrowind and oblivion systems.
The magika compromise is to do what Scott says, add in a ton of handcrafted spells, but then include a system of spellweaving. Using a Tome or a desk, be able to set up a 1-4 spell combo of similar cast types(channel, instant, etc), so you could create a full bound armoury, or send a fireball along side a paralysis spell. I think this could also alleviate all the damn pause switching of spells, part of the annoyance of being a mage in skyrim is only having 2 spells, and the two quick selects before having to use the favorites menu for pause and play, with controller at least.
On argonian boobs outside of blackmarsh they could be used as a way to transfer the hist connection to their children after hatching but inside black marsh there would be no use for them so they wouldn't have them because there's plenty of examples of the hist changing them to suit their needs
The Skyrim protagonist still has more emotion then any main Pokémon protagonist
I never expected in a million years Scott knowing the word Yamnaya-culture, im very impressed, that is a winner news for 2022
After learning about countless fictional worlds, I found that the most fascinating lore of all is the history of our own world
And somehow Scott can only name Divayth Fyr, among the top tier Telvanni Master wizards? Embarrassing considering Dunmer is his favourite race.
The blades say that parthunax is worse but if he wanted too conquer the world he would have, he's had thousands of years too do it and he's just been vibing on a mountain. I see him as having a larger perspective, and he just pitties Alduin for still wanting to cling too that old power. It's also why he's one of my favorite characters in elder scrolls.
I for one like ESO despite some of it's shortcomings. I think it has heavy pros and cons as they said.
I think you're both right about spellmaking, it does have it's place, but can't be a replacement for the whole magic system. A good compromise in my opinion would be a quest explaining that the mark of a great mage is crafting his own signature spell, so as a reward you would be granted this ability to craft your own signature spell, but just one. You could change it at a cost, but could only 'carry' one at a time. So it would be something unique to your character, more like a Power instead of a simple spell.
Just off the top of my head, oblivion had great emotions, with the escorting the emperor in the beginning, the orc in the arena when he asks you to kill him, Martin at the end of the game, lucien in the brotherhood, just off the top of my head and I haven't played in in like 8 years
What it really kind of sounds like you're talking about when it comes to the Nordic pantheon being imperialized seems more like the way the Romans handled things when they invaded an area and took over. When the Romans expanded into new areas and conquered places with different religious ideals they incorporated that regions religion into their own. Such is the wonder of a polytheistic religion, all of the gods in the Roman pantheon would become associated with a specific god from that regions pantheon. Like with the Greek pantheon, the Roman Jove/Jupiter (ruler of the gods) became associated with Zeus (ruler of the gods).
The same thing happened in Egypt both when the Greeks conquered Egypt under Alexander the Great and later on when the Romans did the same. Zeus and Jove became associated with Amun-Re because he was the ruler of the gods. Thus and such. This technique of associating the gods with each other and blending them together made it very easy for Roman society to incorporate and assimilate many different regions and was a part of how their empire grew as far and as fast as it did.
Like you guys were saying, this very same thing occurs later on in history. Christianity adopted a similar feature into its religious make up. If it hadn't it wouldn't be nearly the dominant world religion it is today. In their function though, the gods of those various pantheons subsumed by Christianity became saints and angels instead of becoming other versions of that pantheon's gods.
There's a reason you don't hear much about Celtic religion and druidism in the same way you hear about the Norse, Greek, and Egyptian. In part that's because a lot of their stuff wasn't written down, but it's mainly due to the fact that many of the stories of saints you read about from the European middle ages and kingdoms started out as the stories of the gods the Celts worshiped.
Gods above this comment turned out much longer than I expected it to...
TL;DR it's a fuck of a lot easier to conquer a new place if you incorporate their religion into yours than it is to try and do it the other way around. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Hot take- Nords and Redguards are the same.
Both are proud warrior- cultures with a distrust of magic. Both have a history of eradicating an elven folk. None of them are native to Tamriel, but some mystical, other continent that for some reason became un-livable. Both live in extreme climates. Nords have the Shout, Redguards have swordsingers- both relating to using ones voice to impact the physical world.
A magical artifact is closely related to their story of settling their respective lands (Eye of Magnus and Volundrung).
A good art direction is different than an art style. Skyrim was going for a realistic look for the time, but 10 years later even tho it doesn’t look realistic anymore the game still looks nice because it has a good art direction.
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Love you guys. Been here for years and will be here for many more. Thank you for creating the best elder scrolls content for all this time. ❤️
Dont be afraid to also come with constructive criticism, instead of just kissing ass.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Silence s’wit.
@@ViViVex Scott only knows one Telvanni Wizard, Divayth Fyr. And his favourite race is the Dunmer, that's my point, there are some areas where Fudgemuppet can improve.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Scott’s had many in-depth videos on dunmeri politics and lore. So you’re either misinformed or making a judgement with lack of evidence, which is kind of lazy
@@ViViVex I have watched all Fudgemuppet podcasts, everytime they talked about the Dunmer, Daedric princes or magic, Michael was the one who mentioned Malyn Varen, Nelecar and Therana the other Telvanni Archmagister from both eso and morrowind. And none of them even knew Turala, former lover of the Duke of Mournhold, Turala summoned Mehrunes Dagon who battled Almalexia and Sotha Sil in year 2920 first era.
I agree with spellmaking hot take. While you can do something cool like "on touch drain longswords and heavy armor and summon full set of armor and summon long sword" to do some cool drain mage who makes opponent useless, but everyone just makes something like "cast pain 1000pts for 1 sec" that kills off people outright and other spells need not apply.
This was great. I'd love to listen to another couple hours of spicy hot takes
I like the Thu'um better as the language of dragons.
Kahjiit are my favorite race. Their 16 breeds (plus mane) depending on moon phases is awesome.
It subverts typical dragon breath.
The Dov don't literally breathe fire, they are WILLING fire into existence. With the Th'um, you can changing reality to your will. And who's a better creator than the children of Akatosh himself?
There's a reason why the Way of the Voice exists.
I think the take regarding the Elder Scrolls being useless is not exactly correct. When you have something with Godlike creation capabilities you cannot overuse them because it destroys the mythos behind it.
The scrolls have the power to rewrite reality. We just forget them because it basically only happens one time in every game.
The Gray Fox questline is probably one of my favorite uses of an Elder Scroll. This incredible thief is now cursed and when he puts on the mask of the fox his normal persona is written out of existence. So when he takes off the mask and walks around people act like he's Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life" He used an Elder Scroll to rewrite himself back into existence and be with the woman he loves.
That is powerful writing and shows the power of the scrolls. Yes, the whole point behind prophecy is to defy destiny or to make it twist in a way that favors the protagonist/antagonist's needs.
There is a reason the scrolls are revered to me as they represent a potential future and past and they along with my character are what cause the dragon breaks. We are the Elder Scrolls. In Tamriel the players are destiny.
People who complain about the "math" in games like (early) ES games need to actually try them. Seriously. We're all made of the same stuff. You might just find yourself spending seven hours building your character's biographical *and* numerical basis and not regretting five seconds of it. Even if you don't, that's where you get a game world this good from... logic, attention to detail, and cohesive building. There's a reason why the streamlining and simplification of the game accompanies inconsistencies and general reduced quality in the lore and the writing. There are loads of games and game worlds out there which lack this level of attention to detail; leave those of us who enjoy something a little more involved our handful of holdouts. Not everything needs to be dumbed down.
Agreed, it's so frustrating
I understand the appeal of that and enjoy it myself but at the end of the day Elder Scrolls is massive and it’s majority fan base wants something more accessible and surface level. Great games are accessible and don’t require all that numbers stuff just to start but offer depth in other areas for players that look for it
Easiest way to add spell crafting is to cap the max damage based on total Magicka and spell skill level, pick an element, pick a range (touch, range up to x feet, aoe up to x feet, innate damage or dot), these spells could easily be lower than your master level spells you're a master spell caster not a master spell crafter it takes waaayyy longer to craft a new spell than to cast one.. although to that effect could just allow spell versatility for each spell.. like each spell can be used as touch range or aoe this would really only apply to on target spells so not cloaks or defensive spells although I will say a ward bubble would be cool.
Possibly Hot Take: The Thalmor are the most interesting thing to happen to the high elves, period. It turns the exaggerated, snooty caricatures of classic elves into an interesting (if 1 dimensional) interpretation of the "Elves are superior" trope. They should've been a joinable faction.
While I'm at it, more racial distinctions in the game would only be a good thing, even if it restricts access to certain quests or even areas. The Khajiit being unable to enter the city should be extended to the player until you prove yourself to be trustworthy or sneak your way in. High Elves, and maybe even ALL elves, should be restricted from joining the Stormcloaks. Unfamiliar Bretons in Markarth should be viewed with scrutiny and suspicion (since bretons and reachmen are basically the same race). And if there are elven factions in the next game, maybe it should be very hard, or damn near impossible, for you to join if you aren't an elf.
Agree on everything except elves joining Stormcloaks, there's no real reason why that'd be the case. In real history, African-Americans and Native Americans joined the Confederacy against the Union, as well as Indians, Africans, and other joining the Axis powers, both for the sake of trying to shirk centralized, foreign powers from having authority over them (Native Americans for instance were repeatedly screwed by the Union both before and after the Civil War, while India and Germany had a common enemy in Britain). While intuitively, these alliances might seem odd, they actually make plenty of sense, just as there might be cases where it would make sense for Elves or Cyrodiilics to join the Stormcloaks against the authoritarian state that is the Empire
Thalmor are literally just that snooty exaggerated caricature trope turned up to 11 lmao, their lore and rise to power is interesting as an antagonist but they're incredibly one dimensional beyond that and very uninteresting in execution.
I really love the change to Bosmer, the Antlers just work!
New episode of "5 things we want in Elder Scrolls 6" or else I will tell Bethesda to make every playable race other than Imperials an in app purchase, each costs around five quid.
Then they'll have "premium" races (Maomer, Akaviri, Atmoran, Sload, etc.) for double the price. *It just works*
I know I've missed some podcasts so maybe they already did this but id love to see a podcast where they talk about some of their favorite mods. Obviously mods are a vast and open ended topic but id love to hear what are some of the mods that really stand out for them as something that adds a lot of value to playing skyrim. it doesn't just have to be grand mods that completely change the game either it would be just as interesting to hear about some mods that do just a little but still enhance the game
56:22 Scott: "hot take, I'm gonna spoil the series for you!" Actually died laughing with you guys. Love the Podcasts as always.
I think custom spells could work in TES: VI if it's essentially just macros like Michael described. If you always cast invisibility and aura whisper before entering an engagement zone, there's no harm in combining those effects into a single action. It would actually improve the experience for console users because we won't have to pause the game to scroll through menus AS MUCH (key words).
Cool video. Some things I would like to have added to ES6 revolve around calendars. The world would seem more alive if different towns and cities had festivals or holidays that would be celebrated. IE your character shows up to Riften and they are having some kind of celebration based on the local church. Periodic Harvest festivals in villages, secretive deadric cults holding nighttime rituals in the deep forests and caves. A local Lord having a banquet giving you an opportunity to attend as a guest or thief. Weddings, traveling troupes, and circuses, playhouses, traveling Justicars judging people and giving sentences. All these things can give the world more life.
I still play morrowind without mods to thus day. I find the old RPG mechanics and graphics charming.
Hot Take! Vivec is overrated and far more convuluted then deep.
Try some psychedelics; everything Vivec says will seem as plain as day
@@JH-fb3mp ah yes get high and hallucinate to awaken to the grand knowledge of blue gold criss cross applesauce man lol
@@Alex_Barbosa LOOMA
@@Alex_Barbosa they don't call em machine elves for nothing
Kinda but you can say that abt any fictional thing that's supposed to be deep if it doesn't introduce new concepts to you personally.
Not sure if these count as hot takes, but here are some of my opinions:
1. Bretons are an underrated race since they represent what could happen if men and mer tried to "get along" instead of constantly trying to conquer the other. That and I like the medieval Europe theme they seem to have going on.
2. Magnus is an underrated god. Helping Lorkharn/Shor build Mundus/Nirn but getting the hell out of dodge when he realized their magic was being drained is pretty interesting. The fact he also left behind some relics like the Eye of Magnus, which may or may not be one of his actual eyes, adds to the mystery.
3. Since Kalpas are a thing, I wouldn't mind seeing another cycle for a reboot.
4. The Dark Brotherhood is overrated. Maybe it's just me, but being a hired assassin doesn't sound interesting. That and I'm still not sure how Sithis fits into the cosmology.
I could try some more if anyone's interested.
Here's my hot take: the children in Skyrim were the best part of the game.
They helped me realize I don't want children of my own 👏
I feel like there should have been children of different races too. It would have felt a little more real.
Lmao I love that I decided to get back into the podcast after starting a new Morrowind playthrough yesterday. "Morrowind fans aren't playing it right now" I mean I'm sure that's true for most, but yeah, I go back to Morrowind all the time
Same here, just downloaded openMW for the first time.
Hot take (maybe): Malacath is the weakest daedra, he started as an Aedra who sacrificed his power. Could he have just gained back his power from being angry? If so, why didn’t any other Aedra get their power back?
The Orc version of events say Malacath took some of Boethiah's power during the corruption of Trinimac.
"You just gotta pretend someone else is there."
Lol that killed me.
Hot take:
Since the Numidium is powered by the Mantella, which is a soul gem containing the soul of Wulfharth, who is a Shezzarine, whichis a mortal incarnation of Lorkhan, would that technically make the Numidium another form of Lorkhan? This would explain why it was first used to completely subjugate Alinor, and in CODA, the first thing it does is erase every Altmer from existence.
In this sense, the Numidium is Lorkhan the way that Mechagodzilla is Ghidorah.
The debate about spell making gave me an idea that instead of making whole new spells, you can tweak current ones instead and add a feature or two to them. Or, you could make it to where you have to collect spell components or find tomes that allow you different options. That way, there is customized spells but a sense of balance and limits are planned.
It also feels more magelike than just sitting at a thing and paying money. You have to go out, find things and experiment.
My hot take is that Oblivion was the look of the Elder Scrolls. Strip away what the engine couldn't do, like make an actual face, and just look at the world. The use of vibrant color, the look of towns and structures, a fair amount of armor and weapons. I never had a problem with the high-fantasy vibe or the worn paper ui because I wanted to get lost in a fantasy world.
I like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim for their own reasons but I always daydream about how Morrowind could have looked in Oblivion's art direction. Or how Falkreath might look as its foggy self but not completely desaturated. (I generally had a problem with vanilla Skyrim's fixation on desaturating it's color palate.)
Oblivion's art direction? You mean budget Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings? I would love to see morrowind with better technology or oblivion/skyrim with morrowinds art direction. Oblivion is colorful but everything is flat and looks the same. There isn't anything special, location wise, anywhere in vanilla oblivion. It isn't even high fantasy it is just generic medieval with a single tower and ringed city. I love Oblivion to death, played it more than any others. Hands down my favorite elder scrolls for many reasons, but I really think the total lack of original art direction is the biggest problem with the game. Other than the ridiculous lvl scaling and the gimping of magic.
Morrowind’s art direction will forever be more creative and unique than Oblivion’s art direction
Oblivion is ugly as fuck, charming but ugly
*The Reach is for the Reachmen.*
When it comes to groups claiming Land for themselves, they got defend their land first and they got crushed in a mostly level wars
@@Subject_Keter The orcs were given the land to build Orsinium, but the Reachmen were never granted their own homeland by the other races of men.
The Orcs and the Reachmen deserve their own provinces within the Empire.
I agree are there any mods that I could use for my reachman playthrough that would allow me to ally with the reach in skyrim? Besides just madanach's? (I have the anniversary edition sadly)
@@badluck5647 If I was making a bid for emperor the first thing I'd do is offer them provincial status if they fight for me. Also while it doesnt have Provincial status a new Orsinium was built in the mountains between skyrim and Hammerfell
You get you damn reachland when they stop attackinf my breton ass! I remember the first time i ripped their mask off and it was a breton! Damn tribals are hyped up on Deathbell or something cuz i put their outfit on and they straight up attacked me.
Those walking accidents get what they damn well deserve!
Role playing in Skyrim (or I guess any TES) can be hard imo, just depending on the type of character you want. I tried to make a character that was just some rando pilgrim or vagabond and trying to act like killing someone is a big deal when it's such a necessary part of the game is difficult. That said, keeping a journal in a spiral notebook of what happens each day does help a lot
Since the "Major" points are so locked down, i think the inbetween when you are exploring, talking to people and doing "minor" stuff is cool. Especially if you write down what you did and "novelization" it later to be more cooler i think where it shines.
I remember doing Morthal Vampire quest and getting infected, just letting it fester despite how easy it to cure it was interesting watching yourself mutate into a Vampire and figuring out where you go from there.
I could of cured it but i really enjoyed watching it just go and enjoy abit of the madness.
I hate how there is no evil faction that doesn't involve being sneaky. If you want to be an evil mage you have basically no options, other than I guess Volkihar. ffs you can't even do the civil war without being dragonborn.
@@dakotafawson1223 Because a literal dragon just destroyed Helgan and one of it's survivors, told Balgruuf that they said it heading towards his city.
The city is closed, you have to bribe or tell the guards that you were at Helgan. People are rightfully worried and fearful.
The Jarl cannot let this go unattended, the dragon is more important than a dime-a-dozen civil war.
The Argonians were designed to develop clever-hands, upwards posture and clapping cheeks.
Personally I would rather play daggerfall over any other. My hot take is that Nerevar never fought Dumac, instead they were having a diplomatic meeting when dagoth stormed in with wulfhart in demand of the heart then Almalexia betrayed his husband and a huge battle ensued that end up with Wulfhart killing Dumac, Nerevar killing Wulfhart, Almalexia killing Nerevar and finally Kagrenak triggering the Red Moment by using his tonal arquitecture on the heart
1000% disagree with custom spell making being bad or irrelevant. It doesn't diminish anything by adding it, but it does diminish the game by removing it.
Morrowind's Hit chance can be solved by holding down the mouse button before release yields a higher chance of hitting our foe. Just for anyone who dose not know.
Also use the right weapon, Don't use a dagger if you picked longblade.
Preach! Are you a Morrowindi Apologist like me?
@@RedSpade37 No, no, i am not. the game dose not tell you to hold down the mouse button at all. Its something i found out years later. I'm just correcting a misconception about the game.
@@harlekingyt7302 Well, thank you for putting the info out there!
@@RedSpade37 You're very welcome.
Take a shot every time Scott says, "Do you know what I mean" XD
I super agree with the eso thing! Me and my wife LOVE it for the roleplay that can be done, we get immersed very easy, we just tend to ignore most of the people😂
TES as in the style of Mass Effect: all your decisions throughout the games influence conditions in the world in future games. But then, you get to the last installment, and it just boils down to what color explosions you get.
I'm playing morrowind right now bro. Just murdered 4 telvani agents. Dont worry, it wasn't a guild contract, they had no legal protection
In Oblivion I loved using the fine steel longsword because I'm looking badass and like a knight
Drew looks like he's been hitting the two-handed trainer 💪💪
Drago actually does pretty well with tracking ur choice through game.
Even though I haven’t finished watching the video yet, I will say already, I do hope you guys do a part 2 or even 3 of this
Having been a screen archer in the past for UESP articles of ESO, I entirely feel Drew's pain of having shots ruined by others running into the frame with their frost bears and flaming swords completely removing the purity-of-setting element for upwards of half an hour straight sometimes lol
I think most people who hate ESO are people who've never actually played it or researched anything about the game and what it has to offer, and how it balances being a sandbox roleplaying game and an MMO surprisingly well, catering to players of all types. But at the same time these guys bring up valid points in their opinions on it.
28:50 that was way more funny that it had any right to be
I couldn't breathe for a couple of min
“it’s like role-playing in the bedroom. You have to pretend there’s another person there and it’s not just you”.
relatable
I feel like crafting requires more cost/effort to offset the result of letting players easily make better items/magic than what you can buy or find. Alternatively make skill/role progression tighter so you really have to choose between being a powerful warrior, wizard, craftsman, or scholar without being able to do all at once.
I've got one (potentially hot) take on the bit about the Imperialised Nordic pantheon cuz it's very close to my personal uni studies: For one, the comparison to the Christianisation of Scandinavia is kinda shakey from the get-go because between related politheisms you'd see a much more complicated mixing of the traditions that would always retain at least some trace of the old beliefs which is obviously completely different from the (nearly) complete replacement you see with an exclusive monotheism like Christianity. I suppose you *could* argue Thalmor pressure is the reason they're a bit more hardline about it, but that would be a stretch already and would still require some lore-tweaking to really make sense, so that's one reason you should see more of the old Nordic beliefs than just a handful of bandit voicelines and the Sovngarde episode at the end of the main quest.
But even if you do accept that the Imperials would even want to put any greater effort into completely assimilating Nordic religion into the Imperial Cult, in a period of transition like that you would actually see more of the old tradition and not less because the people that do still believe in it would of course take not of and issue with the change and communicate that more or less openly. You do of course have that to some degree with the Stormcloaks, but they don't even talk that much about religion to begin with and when they do, it's only about Talos - can't recall a single line from a Stormcloak expressing disappointment that people seem to forget about the importance of Shor or something like that. Plus, you'd see a lot more people like Balgruuf who are sympathetic to that sentiment without necessarily following the political call to arms.
So yeah, TL;DR: if you wanna argue with realism, it's actually really stupid the Nordic religion is all but completely Imperialised during the events of Skyrim
Christianity has taken on a significant amount of influence from local dieties. Its a known thing in history that when conquering, you're more likely to have less resistance when incorporating culture and letting localities you conquer keep some of their way of life.
Late to the party, but experimenting with magic is like job #1 for mages in the ES universe. Not being able to tinker with spells made Skyrim's magic system boring. Also they need to rework the level restriction on illusion spells or make enemy levels visible.
You guys have to do another Spicy take podcast, this was too good!
I always thought each had all possible realities written on them and the priests and dragon bloods were able to parse out bits and pieces allowing the bypassing or manipulation of aedric (alduin being sent to the future) and deadric (the alteration of nocturnes cowl) influences
Sometimes Michael is negative toward ideas it drives me crazy, but it’s actually really important to their dynamic as far as forcing themselves to prove a point well. Keep at it fellas
Skyrims dlc villians are the dumbest and full of plot holes, and half baked ideas.
Dawnguard: make the sun go away, which kills everything, so vampires rule everything?....oh yeah and feel bad for all vampires because 2 of them don't try to kill you immediately....
Dragonborn: oh you killed alduin?, I could have done that, taken part in a dragon genocide that would give me literal god status, but the mass of tentacle porn convinced me this was a bad idea some how...... what was my endgame again?
What are you talking about?
Only Harkon actual wants to blot out the sun. Because he's a fucking lunatic, crazed by his vampirism and powerlust. His own wife is like, "nah bro, vampires have lived in the shadows for literal centuries. Kill the sun and the entire world will come after us. Big pass."
And Mirrak was saved by Mora when another dragon priest (Azkial, I think? The Jailor one) cornered him. After that, he was trapped in Mora's realm, seduced by the knowledge of the actual god of knowledge.
These boys know their audience, cause all the best videos to watch stone have good backgrounds for it. Most of the hot takes, deep lore, and videos that make you think deeply have similar backgrounds.
I love these podcasts, it's just such a good time and so mellow. It's like a group of friends just talking about a great game, I know a friend and I have conversations with Fallout like this
Had a friend in high school, we'd go to pizza hut and talk about WoW lore for hours.
@@BaalFridge it's fantastic. My friend and I talk about merits of each fallout, how Fallout can improve and the settings. We also talk about Warhammer Fantasy, the best Warhammer and how it worked well.
I don’t know if it’s hot take or not but I thought of a theory today on Aedra and Daedra. Also don’t know if it’s crossed anyone else’s mind, but my theory is that the reason the aedra (ex: divines) don’t manifest towards mortals in the same way as the daedra (ex: princes) do/can is because men and mer alike have forgotten the possible darker side of the aedra. As in we don’t see the full entity therefore they can’t or won’t manifest themselves to mortals.
Hearing your conversation about spell crafting, I'd encourage you guys to check out Tyranny's spell crafting. I think it already solved these issues.
The fact that after wanting one for so many years I could finally have my own pet guar, was the best thing about ESO for me🤣. I played it a lot when it first came out (buggy as it was), but I didn't care for the MMO aspect. It got too expensive. I stopped playing before many of the expansions were released. Aesthetically speaking it was very cool, and I enjoyed playing it because even though it didn't feel like a real TES game it was still TES content and it was all we were getting.
Actual spicy take? Cryodiil was still largely a jungle in Oblivion in the classical sense. A jungle wasn't always a dense, largely unsettled, warm-climate forest. It was just a swath of untamed temperate land. A grassland could be a jungle for most of history (which is how we "in the mighty jungle the lion sleeps tonight" when lions don't get themselves into forests) and a swamp could be a jungle, and a moderately populated hardwood forest could be a jungle. Y'all are mad it wasn't a jungle, when reality was even sadder. It was a disappointment jungle, and that is worse than it not being a jungle at all.
they can make crafting spells depend on unique learning scrolls that hidden in end dungeon loot
Lusty Argonian maid is actually Crassius Curio after he has achieved Chim it's his understanding of the creation of nirn.
Here's my spicy take: Warhammers and maces are the best and deserve better mechanics in the game than "blunt sword swing slower" The animations for using blunt weapons are atrocious, and it would be great if ES6 featured a mechanic where they bounce off of armor or dent it heavily
Agreed. I started a cleric build who uses a mace and wow it’s underwhelming 😂
I would be nice if each weapon had a different type of Cripple and Power Attacks that did heavy dmg and reduce the foes combat effectiveness.
Like Maces can shatter thr foes limbs, making them attack slower or straight up stunning them.
Swords can open up cuts in the Armor you can rip off and if the chest is exposed do a excution move to thr heart
@@Subject_Keter or more unique kill cams too. I know mace has one where you just crush their skull, but my immersion was ruined by a kill cam where my character “stabbed” them through the chest with a mace…
@@Larissa-up7lu I keep decapitating people with a warhammer, I started using Nerveshatter because it looks sharp. I've never had the stabbing cam with a mace though. Are you on vanilla?
@@joshadams5709 no it’s modded, but kill animations are vanilla. Haven’t addEd any kill cams
i have a memory of playing a game when i was 13 where i spent about an hour creating my character only to emerge from the opening scene and immediately got attacked by a rat that i couldnt hit for whatever reason. it was the only game i ever ragequit like that. im almost certain now that it was morrowind
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